I have a Remington Model 30 that my Grandpa bought, I think in 1950. I looked it up and found that it was built in 1933. It is still in very good original condition with the original Lyman sights. It is chambered in 7mm Mauser. I don't call it 7x57 because it says right on the rifle "7mm Mauser". I don't think my Grandpa ever fired it as it still had the tag attached to it from where he bought it. He paid $150 for it. So, last year I took it to the range and ran 10 rounds through it. It hit the steel plate 100 yards away each and every time.
Hi Mike, Great review as always. The Remington 30 is the last bolt action Remington made that was built up to a standard and not down to a price. Great rifle!!
Hi Steve - I like that saying..."down to a price" and I'm sure the industry is surprised at how far they are all willing to go. I'd just make fine products that last. People have not changed - they like and need quality. But you know this.
Thanks for sharing! Not many people really talk about these rifles, it seems. I collect the rifles of the P13 legacy (P14 and M1917). I've amassed a decent reference collection thus far but I'd love an M30 to be a sort of bookend to the collection
I have a Remington made P14 in 303 British it was made in 1917 and has a bunch of British proof marks on it I bought it in 1967 from a old lady her husband was a British soldier in WW1 and that was his rifle still shoots great
I have all three of the Remingtons , a P-14 , model 1917 and a model 30 I like the no compromises functionality of them They are not sleek , feather weight rifles , everything is big , overbuilt and works like it should
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns you're welcome. BTW I finally have my savage 219! it also has a custom english walnut stock made in my home state of PA. If you want to see pics let me know! Finally my precious american kipplauf!
Too bad Remington doesn't make a rifle on that level these days! 🤔 Heck, you've got to blow through some real cash before you get a rifle with as much class as the Model 30.
I have my grandfathers 30 Express that he bought new in 1929. I have seen them off and on and the prices were around $300. Not tapped for scope and you cannot open them with safety on. I hunt with it most years for deer and elk. Sometimes it is not too accurate and I have a scope on it also when I had it tapped at a pro shop. It had a Lyman sight which I took off and put in a drawer. It also came with a WW! era leather scabbard which fits my Marlin 1893 perfect. The Marlin was made in 1900
Hey USOG just wanna say I appreciate your videos and your attitude when it comes to how you view the guns and see your viewers. Seems to me your really appreciated our audience. Thank you and have a good day.
My dad has an excellent Remington model 30 with no scuffs of scratches with a free floating barrel and it has got to be one of the coolest guns in our collection along with an original Remington 1917 made in 1918 which also in excellent condition I’m so glad he got those guns before the price sky rocketed
Another superb video. I just acquired a magnificent Remington Sporterized Enfield Model P-14 in .303 British. The serial number in the 57,000 range. It fitted with a vintage Lyman peep sight. As I said it was sporterized with a beautiful dark walnut Fajen stock from Missouri with hand checkering. That Remington Enfield action is built like a tank! The Enfield actions left over from WWI & WWII were used as you said for the Remington Model 30 Express. If I get a mild day in mid January here I'll take it out to the range and zero in that Lyman peep sight. Thanks again for a well made and informational video.
My middle son and his wife have both gone to Christensen rifles as the medium rifles, both .300 Win, hers has a carbon fiber wrapped bbl. They both love their Remingtons as well.
Somehow I've never owned a Christiansen - I handled a couple were light and dynamic for sure. Hope I find one soon but people who have them don't seem to sell.
Very nice. You must have good taste. I've got an beautiful version just like this in 30-06 only it's a Winchester. Someone must have taken the 1917 action and sporterized mine, but it's an analog of what you have. I've also got an old, perfect M1917 mil surp in perfect condition that was one of Elmer Keith's rifles.
Hi Aaron - that is very interesting and I think I've seen one or two over the decades. That is a superb rifle you have - and the Winchester name is always a major lift. Your M1917 is another treasure; so scarce in excellent condition.
Hey USOG, seeing as it’s hunting season and all - would you consider doing another Winchester Model 70 video? I’m sure you’ve got a few, and I’d love to see an in depth comparison of different iterations and how to identify and date certain components..
Hi WB - I'd love to but I'm down to the .243 pre-64 and a couple of post 64s and a 54 in .22 Hornet - and that's it. I can scarcely breathe with so few pre-64s around. As soon as more move into the vault - I'll be eager to make the video. If you're heading out hunting : I wish you the best of luck and a safe return.
As always I enjoyed the video. That said, my pride has prevented me for a long time from asking a certain question that somehow will likely put my ignorance on display. I've wracked by brain trying to figure it out and have failed. So.....what does USOG stand for? There, I've said it!
Between the world wars both Rem and Win and some others all made Rifles from 03 Springfield's. Idk why it wasn't concerned a sporterized 03? Possibly politics.
I should have known you'd have a model 30 video! Made my day! I've found one locally and have absolutely fallen for it however at $800 it's just a little too steep for me at this time. Either way the seeds been planted, thanks for another excellent review!
I like pre 90s Remingtons. Just got a Remington 700 varmint special 220 swift first production. It looks as though it’s been unfired. I need to mount a good varmint scope on it. That’s an early Lyman sight on the rear. It’s a shame there not as popular as they used to be. I believe that is a Lyman globe front sight. Perfect match for the rear. Could also be a marbles but it’s a target style. You usually see the globes on heavy barrel .22s. Non the less a very neat and all time period rifle, I like to keep rifles period as possible. Looks like it’s missing the rear peep, although if I remember right Jack o Connor said to remove them to give better sight picture
USOG I have a bit of a library of hunting/shooting/reloading books. Elmer Keith and jack o Connor were prolific writers. I wish I had more time to read, if like to get Elmer Keith’s hell I was there but I’d like to get an early edition.
The Model 30 is a civilian version of the M1917 used in WW1 by US doughboys in that conflict a lot of surplus stocks were sold to the public and Remington took advantage of this and created one of the first quality hunting rifles to hit the market.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Considering that the military performance is still retained this is a winner in it's own right and formed the basis of modern hunting rifles including the 700.
They took off the rear sight ears and the thumb slot but kept the stripper clip mortise, go figure. The M722 had a clip mortise as well. That front sight looks like a variant of the Lyman 17A. I never loved the dog leg bolt handle but it came back on the M660. I always felt the 1914- 1917 and model 30 were clunky rifles from a company trying to reenter the civilian market. I live 12 miles from the plant in Ilion N.Y.
I would like to see the updated version of the Model 30, the Model 720. I don't think they made many of them but they looked clean and modern. Thanks for sharing!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns, probably a very long time. The Remington 720 stock was gobbled up by the War Department at the start of WW2. Very few were sold to the public. Those in government possession became Secretary of the Navy trophy rifles awarded at the Atlantic and Pacific Fleet rifle matches. Not sure if any were awarded during the National Matches or not. Examples I've seen were in 30-06 and 270 Winchester.
Neat stock, excellent sights complete with snabel ! What more does one need for hunting? One of the most beautiful American rifles I have seen,the Model 30!
Thanks Matt - It's been a great interest for me; I should start a stock market channel as I know far more about that. Glad you're on the channel. Take care.
Following along with my "In praise of older cartridges" motif, one of my top searches is for a Remington Model 30 in 7mm Mauser. Also known as the 7X57 and the .275 Rigby (trust the Brits to rename a fantastic German cartridge). Paul Mauser's brainchild first appeared as a military cartridge in 1892. Almost 130 years later, it is still a superb hunting cartridge, capable of taking most big game in North America and is a long standing favourite for African plains game. I wouldn't recommend it but the great African hunter W. D. M. "Karamojo" Bell used a 7X57 to take hundreds of elephants using standard military 172 gr. ball ammunition. I don't know of any evidence to suggest he ever used or even saw a Remington Model 30 but I'm sure he would have approved. He valued small bore bolt actions over heavy, large bore double rifles, demanded utmost reliability and prized accuracy. The Remington Model 30 had it all.
Worth noting that they decided to move ahead with a publicly offered sporting rifle because they had hundreds of thousands of parts to utilize after the gov't contract ended following WW I. I happen to own one of the original series with an Eddystone stamped barrel. Great vid.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I received my permit for a WI Bear tag in the mail a few days after I posted this. Only fitting that I use this for the hunt. Long time coming.
Hi Daniel - thank you - I looked it up - I think you're right. I can use the crosshairs for fine shots and I just look through the rear aperture and the front as well for cans and practical shooting and I don't even remember seeing the crosshairs - the eye does the centering as I mention. I hit most things even way out. Awesome sight.
That Remington 30 is a beautiful. I find a simple bolt action with a aperture sight to be just beautiful. What cartridge? You probably said it but I missed. . Thank you
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns CZ has old school classic beautiful rifles. but I don't have to tell you I learned that from you. LOL I was looking at some old Remington Model thirties online they're very reasonable. I didn't realize that the Remington 30 was the civilian version of the 1917. I've always heard that that's an extremely good rifle and I have a buddy that has one that sporterized and he loves. He didn't sporterized it he bought it already done back in the 80s from a guy that was building them out of Montana. It's an incredibly beautiful rifle you would never know that it wasn't a factory rifle. He says it's extremely accurate to. I've tried to get him to sell it to me but it's for his son. I would send you a picture but I don't know how on UA-cam. Thanks your videos are great as always
beautiful piece if history. I do think the fore sight is called a globe sight also made by lyman. Your videos are great , Love to watch and learn a few thing . thanks .
Mine is a 30 "SR" Express in 30-06 and came from Remington with a Redfield 4x scope. It has the custom 22" barrel and has been shot less than 100 times, (Grandfather's deer rifle.) It is not checkered and has a plain stock with a white line bakelite grip cap. It is a sweet shooting rifle and needs nothing. Cocks on opening, standard trigger = 4#. Year is about 1931; mid range 5 digit serial # = 18,xxx. About 90% or better.
As a fan of walnut stocks and boltaction rifles this is most impressive. The P17 action is very strong from what I've heard. This piece plays second fiddle to nothing. Such a classic Remington.
I had a Eddystone 1917 sporterized to .270. It was a very "clunky" gun that felt like you were shooting a pole. I also like shooting recoil reduced cartridges.
You probably already are aware of this but the Danish SIRIUS Patrol used the M1917 for a good while in their duties patrolling Greenland. They are primarily a recon and enforcement patrol having presence on the ground (ice) in eastern Greenland. It's probably also used as polar bear repellant as well. Riflechair had a really good video of one of these rifles on his channel.
You may know that Grancil Fitz took all of the North American big game with a Griffen and Howe stocked Model 30 in 30-06. I have to admire a guy who stuck with one rifle and cartridge. I've always felt some of the early stock makers like Minar, Linden and G&H made some of the best designed stocks. I've never understood, at a time when scopes were getting more popular, Remington and Winchester continued to make stocks that were oversized?
I guess. Personally, I feel a well made bolt action in 30-06 is just about the ideal gun for all North American big game. I recall that Jack O'Connor used a 7X57 on his last safari, a cartridge he first used back in the 1930's. @@UnitedStatesOfGuns
You are infinitely more fortunate than I. Your Model 30 has a flat butt plate. Mine has a curved butt plate and it is ingloriously hurtful to shoot in any position other than standing!
Hello Mike. What is today's value for a completable Remington 30 in all original condition with the factory sights? I really do love this rifle. How is the eye alignment with this stock and aperture sight? I think the problem with a lot of the newer rifles is the stocks are all designed for scopes and I'm just not really a scope guy I would much rather use the aperture sight. Thank you Mike
Hi Brian, I paid $750. for a high condition Model 30 - some go for more with even higher condition or special calibers and of course, there are $550. Model 30s that show use - wear to wood and steel etc... Hope this helps and good luck.
I'll have to keep an eye out for one of these! Wouldn't the Winchester corollary be the Model 54? I think it was more closely based on the Springfield Model 1903. Kind of a shocker seeing that you restocked that Model 700 into a plastic stock, I expect you will put it back into that nice walnut stock soon...
Hello YO - I think you're right - the 54 is also Mauser 98-like; and the plastic stock is sort of a test and you're right again - then back to the proper stock : )
I have two Model 30 rifles. They are both Express models, one in 270 Win and one in .30-06. I have been looking for an original stock for the 270 Win rifle. Seems all but impossible.
Hi Rick - One of the finest bolt action sporters ever - and Remington's first bolt sporter. After the 30 came the 721 etc... series which ended up being the 700. Based on the 1917 Enfield that Remington had been making for the military during the war - it was a natural for Remington to shift that model to a hunting rifle.
That was made when Remington was Remington. Sad to say that cannot be said with the new Remington's now days. Of course do not know what article to believe on this. Depending on what article you read on this they said Sergeant York from WW1 actually used a Remington bolt action or it was a Springfield, from that famous battle that York done to be awarded the medal of honor, in France during WW1. Then it was the Remington model 8 in the 35 Remington is what Texas Ranger Frank Hammer went after Bonnie and Clyde with, before Frank Hammer changed his plan to fight fire with fire and decided to go after Bonnie and Clyde with Browning BAR, besides starting to drive the same Ford car that Bonnie and Clyde was noted to steal etc.... and at the end Hammer used a Browning BAR like Bonnie and Clyde was using.
I have a custom 1917 Remington in 300wm with everything done, tinney, cock on close, shilling darrel blue print action. Sub moa rifle. I regularly shoot 1k plus with it super accurate.
The Enfield is a remarkable action - as you know. I like the idea of the target barrel and Magnum round. I wish I had the skill to make shots like that; maybe with practice. Thanks for the note.
Very nice rifle! I have a model 30 Express in .30-06 as well, the barrel date code indicates manufacture in May of 1928. Unlike yours, mine has a semi-buckhorn rear sight, a curved buttplate (ouch!), and the bolt cocks on opening. I believe they made them cock on opening starting in 1926. The trigger is a dismal 2-stage affair, but it shoots and looks beautifully, so I simply pay no attention to the trigger. Thanks for the video!
I much prefer cock on closing actions since I don't have to cock the hammer AND start the extraction of the fire cartridge. I work the bolt like a bolt is supposed to be worked and never even notice. Not only that if I DO want to chamber a round slowly and quietly I like how it kinda stops, I push harder, and since everything is under tension there are no clicks and clacks. I think most people hate them because they aren't as "American" since most of our guns were based on a German design haha.
What? Really? Hey check out my video on this rifle. I think the 30's started out as U.S. Rifle Cal .30 M 1917. And reworked as a sporting rifle. To get out from under the rifles there were stuck with after the war. It gave them a rifle they can sell in the depression. When high end sporting rifles were not selling well. As a history note* The 30 was the rifle Melvin Purvis used to kill Babyface Nelson.
I have a Remington Model 30 that my Grandpa bought, I think in 1950. I looked it up and found that it was built in 1933. It is still in very good original condition with the original Lyman sights. It is chambered in 7mm Mauser. I don't call it 7x57 because it says right on the rifle "7mm Mauser". I don't think my Grandpa ever fired it as it still had the tag attached to it from where he bought it. He paid $150 for it. So, last year I took it to the range and ran 10 rounds through it. It hit the steel plate 100 yards away each and every time.
Hi Mike,
Great review as always. The Remington 30 is the last bolt action Remington made that was built up to a standard and not down to a price. Great rifle!!
Hi Steve - I like that saying..."down to a price" and I'm sure the industry is surprised at how far they are all willing to go. I'd just make fine products that last. People have not changed - they like and need quality. But you know this.
A beautiful rifle in every aspect.
Hard to believe isn't it Mark - true quality.
@@UnitedStatesOfGunsI found one today stamped springfield and Remington express for 600
Would love to get my hands on a Remington Model 30. Appears to be a fine rifle for it's era.
I drooled on my tablet......NICE !
I had one of these once. It was converted to 7mm mag. Got it for 250. Wish I still had it, but hindsight is 20/20
That's my story as well. The guns that I've sold.... but I have the same 20/20 vision - backwards vision of course haha
That's gorgeous!
Thanks Matt
Thanks for sharing! Not many people really talk about these rifles, it seems.
I collect the rifles of the P13 legacy (P14 and M1917). I've amassed a decent reference collection thus far but I'd love an M30 to be a sort of bookend to the collection
I have a Remington made P14 in 303 British it was made in 1917 and has a bunch of British proof marks on it I bought it in 1967 from a old lady her husband was a British soldier in WW1 and that was his rifle still shoots great
Awesome rifle - a real keeper - and I hope you find a 30 Tangero - one of the best.
I love how well researched your videos are. You are the Bob Ross of guns.
Thank you!
I have all three of the Remingtons , a P-14 , model 1917 and a model 30
I like the no compromises functionality of them
They are not sleek , feather weight rifles , everything is big , overbuilt and works like it should
Great rifle! I never minded that it was heavy. I've never experienced that front sight and think that I have missed out.
we enjoyed viewing your museum quality rifle .
I read up on these previously, I love the rifle. Thanks for showing this beautiful example.
Thanks Rick - have a great weekend! And good shooting!
Rick, did you see my post on this rifle down below? Check it out. Max
@@easttexan2933 When I get a chance I will brother.
Really Nice 👍🏼😀😊😎👍🏼 Rifle USOG
Thanks Chris!
Yes the Remington model 30 was made in 35remington. A very slick brush gun package. I look forward to having one in my collection.
Thanks Brendon! I'd buy a .35 in a heartbeat.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns you're welcome. BTW I finally have my savage 219! it also has a custom english walnut stock made in my home state of PA. If you want to see pics let me know! Finally my precious american kipplauf!
Too bad Remington doesn't make a rifle on that level these days! 🤔
Heck, you've got to blow through some real cash before you get a rifle with as much class as the Model 30.
That's why I buy 03A3's and 1917 US, I love them.
@@bubbaclinton1105 Agreed, I stay with Model 70's. My go-to rifles.
@@paulsimmons5726 I have 2 of them also, both in 06! Best damn round.... ever!
@@bubbaclinton1105 Yeah, they got the 30-06 right! Take care and be well.
I have my grandfathers 30 Express that he bought new in 1929. I have seen them off and on and the prices were around $300. Not tapped for scope and you cannot open them with safety on. I hunt with it most years for deer and elk. Sometimes it is not too accurate and I have a scope on it also when I had it tapped at a pro shop. It had a Lyman sight which I took off and put in a drawer. It also came with a WW! era leather scabbard which fits my Marlin 1893 perfect. The Marlin was made in 1900
Hey USOG just wanna say I appreciate your videos and
your attitude when it comes to how you view the guns and see your viewers.
Seems to me your really appreciated our audience.
Thank you and have a good day.
Thank you TCLF - I appreciate your note and you; I'm truly glad you're here and that my videos are okay to you means a lot to me.
Another great video by USOG with a lot of history. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Asim!
My dad has an excellent Remington model 30 with no scuffs of scratches with a free floating barrel and it has got to be one of the coolest guns in our collection along with an original Remington 1917 made in 1918 which also in excellent condition I’m so glad he got those guns before the price sky rocketed
The competitor to the remington 30 was the winchester model 54 not the pre 64.
Another superb video. I just acquired a magnificent Remington Sporterized Enfield Model P-14 in .303 British. The serial number in the 57,000 range. It fitted with a vintage Lyman peep sight. As I said it was sporterized with a beautiful dark walnut Fajen stock from Missouri with hand checkering. That Remington Enfield action is built like a tank! The Enfield actions left over from WWI & WWII were used as you said for the Remington Model 30 Express. If I get a mild day in mid January here I'll take it out to the range and zero in that Lyman peep sight. Thanks again for a well made and informational video.
My middle son and his wife have both gone to Christensen rifles as the medium rifles, both .300 Win, hers has a carbon fiber wrapped bbl. They both love their Remingtons as well.
Somehow I've never owned a Christiansen - I handled a couple were light and dynamic for sure. Hope I find one soon but people who have them don't seem to sell.
Very nice. You must have good taste.
I've got an beautiful version just like this in 30-06 only it's a Winchester. Someone must have taken the 1917 action and sporterized mine, but it's an analog of what you have.
I've also got an old, perfect M1917 mil surp in perfect condition that was one of Elmer Keith's rifles.
Hi Aaron - that is very interesting and I think I've seen one or two over the decades. That is a superb rifle you have - and the Winchester name is always a major lift. Your M1917 is another treasure; so scarce in excellent condition.
Thank you so much for sharing. Cheers
You're most welcome!
That front target sight is crazy cools. Definitely would search for one
Hey USOG, seeing as it’s hunting season and all - would you consider doing another Winchester Model 70 video? I’m sure you’ve got a few, and I’d love to see an in depth comparison of different iterations and how to identify and date certain components..
Hi WB - I'd love to but I'm down to the .243 pre-64 and a couple of post 64s and a 54 in .22 Hornet - and that's it. I can scarcely breathe with so few pre-64s around. As soon as more move into the vault - I'll be eager to make the video. If you're heading out hunting : I wish you the best of luck and a safe return.
Quality .... quality..... those were pretty good 👍
Thank you!
What a beautifully made rifle!
Thanks for the video.
As always I enjoyed the video. That said, my pride has prevented me for a long time from asking a certain question that somehow will likely put my ignorance on display. I've wracked by brain trying to figure it out and have failed. So.....what does USOG stand for? There, I've said it!
United States of Guns
@@steveconquest6684 For real?
Yes united states of guns. Its true.
Yup, yup. All the states around the world that are united by guns. Or that was the idea in the name : )
Another beautiful rifle, and wow, I love those sights, thanks for sharing!
Sorry, I forgot to thank you for a great post!
Thanks Victor!
Just came up for me. I’ve kept .30Rem and .25Rem Bullets I’ve come across over the years. Always wanted a rifle Indi the one!
Great keeper cartridges Dave - and a rifle in .25 would be very, very special. Take care Dave
Looks very much like my Remington O3A3 that came out of Camp Perry. Same Lyman peep sights.
Between the world wars both Rem and Win and some others all made Rifles from 03 Springfield's. Idk why it wasn't concerned a sporterized 03? Possibly politics.
I should have known you'd have a model 30 video! Made my day! I've found one locally and have absolutely fallen for it however at $800 it's just a little too steep for me at this time. Either way the seeds been planted, thanks for another excellent review!
Hi Emory - they are such great rifles - so much character and value in them. Thanks for your note and support.
I like pre 90s Remingtons. Just got a Remington 700 varmint special 220 swift first production. It looks as though it’s been unfired. I need to mount a good varmint scope on it. That’s an early Lyman sight on the rear. It’s a shame there not as popular as they used to be. I believe that is a Lyman globe front sight. Perfect match for the rear. Could also be a marbles but it’s a target style. You usually see the globes on heavy barrel .22s. Non the less a very neat and all time period rifle, I like to keep rifles period as possible. Looks like it’s missing the rear peep, although if I remember right Jack o Connor said to remove them to give better sight picture
Great buy - and as you know - one of the best cartridges to work with. Cool that you remember what Jack said - I do too. : )
USOG I have a bit of a library of hunting/shooting/reloading books. Elmer Keith and jack o Connor were prolific writers. I wish I had more time to read, if like to get Elmer Keith’s hell I was there but I’d like to get an early edition.
The Model 30 is a civilian version of the M1917 used in WW1 by US doughboys in that conflict a lot of surplus stocks were sold to the public and Remington took advantage of this and created one of the first quality hunting rifles to hit the market.
Thank you RP! They did a fine job - such fine rifles.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Considering that the military performance is still retained this is a winner in it's own right and formed the basis of modern hunting rifles including the 700.
They took off the rear sight ears and the thumb slot but kept the stripper clip mortise, go figure. The M722 had a clip mortise as well. That front sight looks like a variant of the Lyman 17A. I never loved the dog leg bolt handle but it came back on the M660. I always felt the 1914- 1917 and model 30 were clunky rifles from a company trying to reenter the civilian market. I live 12 miles from the plant in Ilion N.Y.
Thanks for the detail. So far no luck finding a 722. I like the clunk factor of the 30 though.
I would like to see the updated version of the Model 30, the Model 720. I don't think they made many of them but they looked clean and modern. Thanks for sharing!
I'll look for one - might be awhile before I find one : )
@UnitedStatesOfGuns, probably a very long time. The Remington 720 stock was gobbled up by the War Department at the start of WW2. Very few were sold to the public. Those in government possession became Secretary of the Navy trophy rifles awarded at the Atlantic and Pacific Fleet rifle matches. Not sure if any were awarded during the National Matches or not. Examples I've seen were in 30-06 and 270 Winchester.
Neat stock, excellent sights complete with snabel ! What more does one need for hunting? One of the most beautiful American rifles I have seen,the Model 30!
Hi Rupert - I agree - If I only had this one rifle I'd not feel deprived.
Great video! Now I want a 30!
You have a head full of knowledge about firearms. I thought I was pretty well versed on the subject? I now think otherwise. Thanks for the video!
Thanks Matt - It's been a great interest for me; I should start a stock market channel as I know far more about that. Glad you're on the channel. Take care.
Following along with my "In praise of older cartridges" motif, one of my top searches is for a Remington Model 30 in 7mm Mauser. Also known as the 7X57 and the .275 Rigby (trust the Brits to rename a fantastic German cartridge). Paul Mauser's brainchild first appeared as a military cartridge in 1892. Almost 130 years later, it is still a superb hunting cartridge, capable of taking most big game in North America and is a long standing favourite for African plains game.
I wouldn't recommend it but the great African hunter W. D. M. "Karamojo" Bell used a 7X57 to take hundreds of elephants using standard military 172 gr. ball ammunition. I don't know of any evidence to suggest he ever used or even saw a Remington Model 30 but I'm sure he would have approved.
He valued small bore bolt actions over heavy, large bore double rifles, demanded utmost reliability and prized accuracy. The Remington Model 30 had it all.
Worth noting that they decided to move ahead with a publicly offered sporting rifle because they had hundreds of thousands of parts to utilize after the gov't contract ended following WW I. I happen to own one of the original series with an Eddystone stamped barrel. Great vid.
That's a gem - glad you have it.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I received my permit for a WI Bear tag in the mail a few days after I posted this. Only fitting that I use this for the hunt. Long time coming.
Great video and information as always! Is the front sight know as a Lyman Globe sight?
Hi Daniel - thank you - I looked it up - I think you're right. I can use the crosshairs for fine shots and I just look through the rear aperture and the front as well for cans and practical shooting and I don't even remember seeing the crosshairs - the eye does the centering as I mention. I hit most things even way out. Awesome sight.
That Remington 30 is a beautiful. I find a simple bolt action with a aperture sight to be just beautiful. What cartridge? You probably said it but I missed. . Thank you
30-06, as stated at the start.
Sure is a beauty Brian - and thanks Year Zero. I wish they still made these...but I'm a dreamer I suppose.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns CZ has old school classic beautiful rifles. but I don't have to tell you I learned that from you. LOL I was looking at some old Remington Model thirties online they're very reasonable. I didn't realize that the Remington 30 was the civilian version of the 1917. I've always heard that that's an extremely good rifle and I have a buddy that has one that sporterized and he loves. He didn't sporterized it he bought it already done back in the 80s from a guy that was building them out of Montana. It's an incredibly beautiful rifle you would never know that it wasn't a factory rifle. He says it's extremely accurate to. I've tried to get him to sell it to me but it's for his son. I would send you a picture but I don't know how on UA-cam. Thanks your videos are great as always
beautiful piece if history. I do think the fore sight is called a globe sight also made by lyman.
Your videos are great , Love to watch and learn a few thing .
thanks .
Thanks The42Petes
Mine is a 30 "SR" Express in 30-06 and came from Remington with a Redfield 4x scope. It has the custom 22" barrel and has been shot less than 100 times, (Grandfather's deer rifle.) It is not checkered and has a plain stock with a white line bakelite grip cap. It is a sweet shooting rifle and needs nothing. Cocks on opening, standard trigger = 4#. Year is about 1931; mid range 5 digit serial # = 18,xxx. About 90% or better.
As a fan of walnut stocks and boltaction rifles this is most impressive. The P17 action is very strong from what I've heard. This piece plays second fiddle to nothing. Such a classic Remington.
You're right; as good as it gets
Where can I buy those rear sights?
Hi Marck - Numrich Gun Parts in New York (GPC) often has - or they get them in from time to time.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Great thanks, nice rifle.
I had a Eddystone 1917 sporterized to .270. It was a very "clunky" gun that felt like you were shooting a pole. I also like shooting recoil reduced cartridges.
I know what you mean Patrick - they are not Kimbers for sure - but I still like that weight and solid feeling. All the best to you.
Later version of Model 30 was cock on opening and added a guide rib to smooth it out, much like next Model 720. Thanks for the video!
Thanks John - I learn every day; had no idea.
You probably already are aware of this but the Danish SIRIUS Patrol used the M1917 for a good while in their duties patrolling Greenland. They are primarily a recon and enforcement patrol having presence on the ground (ice) in eastern Greenland. It's probably also used as polar bear repellant as well.
Riflechair had a really good video of one of these rifles on his channel.
Hi Aaron - I didn't know about Greenland - or maybe I forgot. Thanks for the note - I'll look for the video. "polar bear repellent" hahahaha : )
You may know that Grancil Fitz took all of the North American big game with a Griffen and Howe stocked Model 30 in 30-06. I have to admire a guy who stuck with one rifle and cartridge. I've always felt some of the early stock makers like Minar, Linden and G&H made some of the best designed stocks. I've never understood, at a time when scopes were getting more popular, Remington and Winchester continued to make stocks that were oversized?
Change doesn't come easily sometimes.
I guess. Personally, I feel a well made bolt action in 30-06 is just about the ideal gun for all North American big game. I recall that Jack O'Connor used a 7X57 on his last safari, a cartridge he first used back in the 1930's. @@UnitedStatesOfGuns
you didn't mention the very rare 720. Would love to hear your thoughts on it
I found one of these model 30 rifles but its missing the sight. What kind of sight is that and where can one be found?
You are infinitely more fortunate than I. Your Model 30 has a flat butt plate. Mine has a curved butt plate and it is ingloriously hurtful to shoot in any position other than standing!
I know what you mean Jason - those are punishing to shoot.
Hello Mike. What is today's value for a completable Remington 30 in all original condition with the factory sights? I really do love this rifle. How is the eye alignment with this stock and aperture sight? I think the problem with a lot of the newer rifles is the stocks are all designed for scopes and I'm just not really a scope guy I would much rather use the aperture sight. Thank you Mike
Hi Brian, I paid $750. for a high condition Model 30 - some go for more with even higher condition or special calibers and of course, there are $550. Model 30s that show use - wear to wood and steel etc... Hope this helps and good luck.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Yes definitely this gives me a good idea what the market is. Thank you 👍
I have one in 30/06 but it's the plain model with the finger grove stock. I like yours better. Lol
Hi Jason - at least you have one - it seems just about no one else does. No matter the configuration - these are excellent - as you know.
I'll have to keep an eye out for one of these! Wouldn't the Winchester corollary be the Model 54? I think it was more closely based on the Springfield Model 1903.
Kind of a shocker seeing that you restocked that Model 700 into a plastic stock, I expect you will put it back into that nice walnut stock soon...
Hello YO - I think you're right - the 54 is also Mauser 98-like; and the plastic stock is sort of a test and you're right again - then back to the proper stock : )
I have two Model 30 rifles. They are both Express models, one in 270 Win and one in .30-06. I have been looking for an original stock for the 270 Win rifle. Seems all but impossible.
I like rem model 30. I hold steady with 8-10 lb rifle.
I'm with you.
Winchester had a model 54 that came before the model 70.
wow. that is very interesting.
everyone knows the 700, but literally no one knows the history of it.
Thanks MrSven - Such a fine rifle - I thought I should say something : )
I own a 721, so I wonder how it could be improved on.
You're right - they were changed but not really improved.
I have a Remington Model 30 Express. Do you know anything about it? It was made in 1934 I think.
Hi Rick - One of the finest bolt action sporters ever - and Remington's first bolt sporter. After the 30 came the 721 etc... series which ended up being the 700. Based on the 1917 Enfield that Remington had been making for the military during the war - it was a natural for Remington to shift that model to a hunting rifle.
I have one and haven’t been fired in 25 years.
That was made when Remington was Remington. Sad to say that cannot be said with the new Remington's now days. Of course do not know what article to believe on this. Depending on what article you read on this they said Sergeant York from WW1 actually used a Remington bolt action or it was a Springfield, from that famous battle that York done to be awarded the medal of honor, in France during WW1.
Then it was the Remington model 8 in the 35 Remington is what Texas Ranger Frank Hammer went after Bonnie and Clyde with, before Frank Hammer changed his plan to fight fire with fire and decided to go after Bonnie and Clyde with Browning BAR, besides starting to drive the same Ford car that Bonnie and Clyde was noted to steal etc.... and at the end Hammer used a Browning BAR like Bonnie and Clyde was using.
You're right - for all the supposed progress...things seem to be getting worse and worse.
LOL I have a sporterized P-17 that looks almost identical to that gun . Funny thing it was made by Winchester.
Those are worth more - anything Winchester - as you likely know : )
I have a custom 1917 Remington in 300wm with everything done, tinney, cock on close, shilling darrel blue print action. Sub moa rifle. I regularly shoot 1k plus with it super accurate.
The Enfield is a remarkable action - as you know. I like the idea of the target barrel and Magnum round. I wish I had the skill to make shots like that; maybe with practice. Thanks for the note.
Very nice rifle! I have a model 30 Express in .30-06 as well, the barrel date code indicates manufacture in May of 1928. Unlike yours, mine has a semi-buckhorn rear sight, a curved buttplate (ouch!), and the bolt cocks on opening. I believe they made them cock on opening starting in 1926. The trigger is a dismal 2-stage affair, but it shoots and looks beautifully, so I simply pay no attention to the trigger. Thanks for the video!
my grandpa owns one to
Hope you get out shooting with him.
I much prefer cock on closing actions since I don't have to cock the hammer AND start the extraction of the fire cartridge. I work the bolt like a bolt is supposed to be worked and never even notice. Not only that if I DO want to chamber a round slowly and quietly I like how it kinda stops, I push harder, and since everything is under tension there are no clicks and clacks.
I think most people hate them because they aren't as "American" since most of our guns were based on a German design haha.
This is good - I also like the cock on close. Not sure what the fuss with cock on open is....but so it goes : )
What? Really? Hey check out my video on this rifle. I think the 30's started out as U.S. Rifle Cal .30 M 1917. And reworked as a sporting rifle. To get out from under the rifles there were stuck with after the war. It gave them a rifle they can sell in the depression. When high end sporting rifles were not selling well. As a history note* The 30 was the rifle Melvin Purvis used to kill Babyface Nelson.
I think Remington is in financial trouble again. :(
same action as the 1917 enfield and eddystones
Thank you Jeff!