Thanks for bringing us some fine examples Mike. Dangerous game cartridges and rifles for Africa, along with safari stories, have always interested me. Take care.
Really enjoy when you take the rifles apart and show us the inner workings.. I'm starting a restoration on another savage model 1920, that I picked up on CGN..
Nice video! I am currently building a .404 Jeffery in a Springfield P1917 action. Magazine lengthening and related metalwork were all necessary. Keep up the good work!
Hi Joaquin - That's an ideal build - the P1917 is such a fine action - as you know. I bought a rifle recently based on the Enfield in .308 Norma - fantastic combination. All the best to you - I look forward to pics of the rifle. Cheers!
My gun collecting father passed away almost two years ago, and two of my favorite rifles that he left me are a Whitworth Express (a la Interarms/Zastava) in 375 H&H and a custom .458 Win Mag built on an Argentinian Mauser 98 action. Both are really good quality rifles, but the 375 sees much more range time, using some lightweight Speer 235 soft points for paper punching. But the 458 Win Mag sure is nice for bragging rights. 🙂
Hi Clint, I'm sorry about your Dad's passing - I lost my Dad when I was just out of school. The Whitworth Express is a fantastic rifle in a great cal. as you know. Not easy to find that model. The custom .458 sounds like exactly the type of rifle I like to have built - I often shoot the .458 with milder loads and recoil is okay, while accuracy is excellent. Several people wrote me that they use the .458 for everything. Take care and all the best Clint!
The 458 Win Mag is a superb DG calibre!! I've used mine on 7 African DG to date - all 1-shot kills (including two DG on the run: a hippo through the neck at 120yds, and a head shot on a cape buffalo at 50yds). 👍
Had a Whitworth in 375. Cool, relatively obscure rifle, but the damn floor plate would pop open after every shot. I’ve read on forums that others have had this issue as well.
What a great video. Reminds me of my childhood. Hear in the Indian subcontinent during my childhood one would come across big bore rifles dating back to the early 20th century. Now I feel they have been lost in time
@@thehopperhopes6365 Incorrect! The 9.3x62 is still legal as it's a "grandfathered" calibre in Africa. I used mine to take a cape buff in 2018: a one shot kill from right front shoulder to rear left rib. He dropped after staggering 40yds. "Gunyana" (a well-known game warden) used one for elephant control during his service.
Sir, as usual an informative discussion on the immortal mauser98, regardless of manufacturer. I've owned several mausers actions 96 - 98's, never a failure to feed or extract I sold my Brno 550 in 375HH I now carry a Sako Black Bear in 30-06 I'm a believer in open sights and barrel bands. In regard to stringing shots I've had plenty of free floating barrels produce more than my fare share. Please keep up the great work. David South Australia
Hi David, do rifles produced for the southern hemisphere have left hand rifling? I checked out a Lithgow built SMLE once and noticed that the rifling was pitched left! Would that make a great difference in accuracy? It's a rainy day in Washington state.
Love the vids. Thanks so much for taking the time to show us your collection. It’s one thing to own them but it’s something else to use them to educate people 👍🇦🇺
I'll second that, for sure. I appreciate his lack of tacti-beard and blaring rock-and-roll music while rapidly spraying steel plates; choosing instead to focus on the more refined side of firearms life. 🙂
Its so interesting looking back on the concept of what it takes for big game. A century ago a full metal jacket or steel core bullet from a 6.5 or 7x57 or 8mm has taken all kinda if game. It was really the go to. I’ve seen photos of german uboat crews with harvested walrus and polar bears in the Arctic taken with 8x57fmj. Or Scandinavian grizzlies taken with 6.5x54 steel core! Heck even today Canadians and Alaskans will down a moose with a well placed green tip 5.56. WDM BELL was really right.
So true - a pin will stop a heart; on the other hand - something bigger can be comforting. Dangerous game hunters tell me about game that can tear the hunter to pieces and hunting in grass twice the height of a man - or dense jungles - or any number of places and conditions where getting the bullet to a critical place may not be so easy. Anyway, you're still right - but many prefer a margin of safety; but each to his own to some extent. Many African jurisdictions require minimum .375 H&H as you know; they got fed up collecting shredded hunters and others associated with safari hunting. Thanks for the note.
Hunting ethics and standards of humane killing have changed a lot since then. Bell was also not a hunter in today‘s sense, as in a conservationist, well-regulated recreational hunter. He was an ivory hunter motivated by economics. He used the 7x57 not because it was the best choice but because military 7x57 ammunition was cheap and loaded with high SD bullets. He also went for brain shots on elephants which have considerably larger heads than deer, elk or bears. German u-boat teams didn’t care whether the walrus suffered or how many shots they had to take. They wanted to put meat on the table and used what they had. Stories of old-timey hunters taking huge game with small guns shouldn’t be taken as evidence of said guns' efficacy. They should be seen in the context of their time, a time when smokeless powder big game rifles were still relatively new and adequate arms for dangerous game were few and expensive.
Bell shot most of them with 7x57,but as he came to newer areas and uncertain cobditions the .318 and .400 or ,416 Rigby came nore into use of his there.
@@borkwoof696 this is true of course. However bell is known for saying that you would place the small bullet in the same spot as the larger elephant cartridge. Big or small a head shot is what you’re going for with tuskers. That being said its of course the insurance of having a big bullet that is ethical which is important.
Great video, as usual. A great point that a skilled gunsmith can build you a top quality big bore of your dreams for far less than one of the big name outfits. Nice tease with the Siamese Mauser action! With a little snooping around, you could do a whole video just on conversions of that action. They have gained an almost cult following as the "poor man's dangerous game rifles", and are frequently found in the hands of serious hunters. Commercial and custom versions, ranging from crude to gorgeous, show up in wild, far-flung places, doing the business of practical hunting rifles, most of them re-chambered in 45/70 or similar large caliber rimmed cartridge. Thank you for interesting young people in the shooting sports, while making old men smile!
In 2013, after a DG hunt in Zim, I took my family to a game lodge where the Head Guide had a bolt action Mauser 404 Jeffrey made by the Krupp factory (pre-WWI). I had the good fortune to use this rifle, and it is simply superb to use, with an OUTSTANDING pedigree: 7 owners (5 killed by DG), a hexagonal 26" barrel, leaf sights (to 400yds!), hooded ivory front sight, in an express stock. Wholly original, its' serial number is an unbelievable, single, digit: 7. That's right! It is the 7th rifle produced by Krupp, and they've since offered him many, many thousands of dollars to buy it back for their museum. But the Head Guide replied: "But I'm still using this rifle!!" And IMHO so it should be, and always remain so!! A grand old workhorse of Africa, STILL being used and earning its keep...... IN AFRICA!! 😊👍
@Acharya james oermann, speaker, writer. No! Your view is typical of someone without experience, so here are a few things to consider. Because every situation when facing "Dangerous Game" has the same potential for something going wrong and the hunter(s) being killed. This is because in each case, the uncontrollable variables remain unknown - and will remain so. Even with the best hunter or rifle, such compounding variables as - bullet deflection by an unseen intervening branch, - the character of the particular animal, ie: is it pumped up on adrenaline?; has it been wounded by a poacher's snare (VERY common!!) which is making it more than usually aggressive? or, Is it just naturally more cantankerous in nature than other individual game animals?, - a catastrophic failure in performance of the bullet (within the "Terminal ballistics" stage), - a complete failure to fire, or a "hang-fire" of the cartridge at the critical moment (leading to poor placement of the bullet, causing the wounding of the animal), -which are some variables that impact each and every situation. Every hunter endeavours to dispatch their quarry ethically and humanely, BUT, unfortunately, sometimes they're only wounded. Then it's only ethically and morally right that it then must be "followed up" by the hunter(s) and dispatched. With "Dangerous Game" this invariably means following the animal into the thickest, darkest most inhospitable cover. Being in such a situation, the tables are neatly turned on the hunter(s) because the wounded (and enraged) animal only then needs to stand quietly and motionless to launch his ambush to kill the hunter(s) from only a few feet away. The poor light in thick cover, the imprisoning, intervening bush and sudden rush by the animal compresses the bush against the hunter and hampers the effective use of his rifle (regardless of his skill, nor how good his rifle is!). Quite often this scenario ends in fatal results for the hunter(s). For example, back in the 90, I had the sad experience in meeting the widow of a very experienced Professional Hunter. His client had wounded an elephant on dusk, which necessitated a "follow up". The PH sent the client back to the vehicle (as required) and the PH went in after the ele. The ele stood very still, and in the gathering dark, the PH didn't see it walked past it. This lapse allowed the ele to steal up from behind and put it's tusk into the PHs' lower back and to come out at the PHs' opposite shoulder, killing him instantly. Another time, a PH "followed up" a cape buffalo with his client in the mid-morning. As they climbed out of a dry river bed, the buff was waiting in ambush for them - it charged from a few feet and killed them both. Different scenarios, same outcome. I hope these examples underlines the point that in every situation - no matter how good a PH or the rifle is - it NEVER garuantees a successful outcome. And to all those who will cry: "Why hunt these animals?" I'll respond with: "Why do people jump out of a perfectly sound aircraft?" Or: "Why do people indulge in rock climbing up vertical rock faces hundreds of feet high - with only their fingers and toes and a pouch of chalk for their safety?" We just all follow our desires!!
I worked at a safari lodge in the Kruger National Park, South Africa, as a guide. There was a Daga boy close to the lodge with a broken knee, posing a safety risk and the decision was made to put him down, 3 experienced men went out on foot to locate him and do the job. He saw them as they saw him and he charged immediately, not slowed by the bad leg at all. Two of the men got off 3 shots each on rapid fire into his chest, a .458 WinMag and a. 416 Rigby, he didn't slow down, the third man ,trying for an aimed head shot eventually fired at almost point blank range, all 3 men dived out the way,one of them hit it in the neck and so the spine, paralyzing it from the neck down. The buffalo was still trying to gore them, an 8th shot in the back of the head killed it . A man alone wouldn't have made it
@acharyajamesoermannspeaker6563 NOTHING wrong with the rifle - I used it, and the present owner has used it for 40yrs - it's just that those killed weren't up to the task!!
Nice, really nice video!! Too bad Brno is no more in North America and that CZ is not making the 550 anymore!! Really sad! Lucky you to have all those beauties!!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns yeah Brno is CZ and they don’t offer anything in North America. The 550 was discontinued a few years back and now all of the 500 series are also and been replaced with the 600 series! I need to find my self a Brno 21-22 or ZKK 600 or even better more harder to find the ultimate ZG47… in 9.3x62! I would make me quite happy!!
Nice video! I don't hunt but read a lot of Capstick and some Ruark and Hemingway in my 20's. Now I'm addicted to rifles in African calibers. Love the history and design!
These truly are fascinating but these are way out of my means and I'm left handed. If I ever hunt abroad I'm taking my Ruger Hawkeye 30-06 and Ruger 375 Alaskan, both lefties. For that occasion I even have a classic custom beauty walnut stock ready for the 30-06 for a special hunt. The 375 Alaskan is going to stay in its laminate. I know those aren't Rigby or custom rifle material but when you don't have the scratch for those you just make do and the Ruger big game rifles they offered in 9.3, 375, and 416 in those Hawkeye models were probably the most economical.
All beautiful rifles and a person can't really go wrong with any one of them. For myself, my choice is the pre-64 Winchester Model 70 Super Grade in .375 H&H. Anyways, thank you for sharing what such great guns look like under the hood.
I have a interarms mark x chambered in 416 Taylor improved, also a Winchester model 70 safari in 416 Remington. Both guns are very accurate, and fun to shoot. Load development from the bench gets a little rough on the shoulder after 20 or so rounds lol.
Great video, Mike! I love 98 Mausers! I wish I was able to afford one in 458 Winchester Magnum or 375 H@H, but for now my 35 Whelen will just have to be my big bore. Of course it will have to share with my 45/70’s. Lots of power in both, more than enough to handle any critter that walks on these two American continents. My cousin has a pre-war Drilling that sports a 9.3x72 barrel. I’d love to own it, but it would only be a safe queen due to its magnificent condition. Mike, thank you for such a wonderful video and explanation of these actions!
Thank you for writing Ron! The Whelan is one of my favorites - as you likely know - so practical and powerful; same for the 45/70 - my friend loads it in his Ruger #1 and the penetration in wood is about the same as my .458. The drilling is another gem! I truly appreciate your kind words Ron. All the best to you.
See if you find a 275 or 280 .35 bullet ,youre closer then. If you find a 310 Woodleigh together with 275 of their make. Youre close to some of the older British .350s same bullet.
Hey it's me again Mike. Another fine video that I just discovered. Even in my wildest imagination I never really thought or even dreamed about going to Africa to hunt dangerous game or any other game for that matter. It just wouldn't be the financial cards for me. I also never thought about owning an "Africa Hunting" or "Dangerous Game" rifle. Not even a 375 H&H. Until recently that is. All of my reputable reloading manuals show that the 35 Whelen will drive any comparable weight bullet that can be loaded into the Whelen's '06 case, somewhat faster than the 9.3x62. Although I have only in recent years become aware of the 9.3x62, I seem to have developed a fascination for and even have become totally enamored with the idea of owning one of those. I recently saw a beautiful Husqvarna sell on GunBroker for more than I was willing at the time to pull out the credit card for. Now I'm having non-buyers remorse. I'm hopeless. I want one. I've read both yeas and nays as to the whether the 9.3x62 is legal for dangerous game in all, some or any of the African countries. In my imaginary world where money is no object, I think it would be my choice. I do know that Privi Partisan loads a light jacketed 285 grain bullet at around 2200 fps that works fine for deer sized game, so theoretically I could have some use for it here in the lower 48. I already have a custom sporterized Siamese Mauser 45-70 in case the dinosaurs come back. One of my reputable company reloading manuals show a load for 45-70 in the Siamese Mauser that will drive a 400 grain bullet to 2200 fps. A ballistic calculator shows that results in 4258 ft lbs of muzzle energy. Do you suppose my imaginary African PH would let me use that on the heavies? Happy hunting boys and girls!😄
Hi Dave, For sure the 9.3x62 is one of those captivating cartridges. A few viewers wrote me (some from Alaska) that after they "got fed up" with failures due to bullet failure and distance failure for whatever reason - they switched to the 9.3x62 and never looked back. Simply put, this cartridge drops anything just the way a hunter wants. The massive frontal area and long bullets smash through where others fail and if one shoots at any reasonable range - the outcome is inevitable. Stranegely absent in some hunting laws in Africa - the 9.3x62 served there for decades against anything. The German loadings are especially fine - the RWS TIG and TUG and newer loading are really something. Here's a link rws-ammunition.com/en/products/centerfire-rifle-cartridges/rws-9-3x62-uni-classic-19-0g Thanks for taking the time to write. All the best.
A rifle cartridge I’d be interested in doing one day would be the 400 Whelen wildcat cartridge with a .458 inch shoulder, as Mr. Whelen originally designed it. I’d think it would be perfectly adequate for any big game on Earth.
I went hunting in the Czech Republic in the 90s with a Ruger No. 1 with Mannlicher stock and 20" barrel and caliber 7x57mm. I shot a roe buck there at 180 m. 7x57 is a good hunting cartridge. I also had a pre-war Mauser in 7x57 (1937) and an FN Mauser in 9.3x62 caliber. Sako are good weapons too. Back then, I had a Sako 375 H&H converted to the 404 Jeffery caliber by a Nuremberg gunsmith. I had a Ruger #1 in .416 Rigby too. I am a German from Franconia and now live in Thailand.
Hello - I remember you! That Ruger is about as good as a deer hunting rifle gets. Hope you're getting in some jungle hunting in Thailand. Very difficult conditions - at least for me.
Your channel is like a UA-cam gun show. 20 years ago gun shows (as you likely know) were full of wood and steel guns, genuine milsurps, actual antiques and great wars classics. Nowadays... utter garbage. I thoroughly enjoy your show and tell of a large spectrum of new and old world guns. Thank you.
When i was 22 i went to visit the holland and holland show room in NYC. A lifelong dream just to see it. Obviously couldn’t buy a thing but a hat but still. Once the gentleman realized i knew rifles and loved the company they got excited and gave me a pair of white gloves and they started opening the back safes. Showing me antique punt guns made by H&H, all kind of fresh Mauser action and double rifles made for new clients and even stat sheets for calibers the company hadn’t released yet. Makes me lament i could never go to Africa or buy an H&H accept for maybe a used rook rifle haha. Then again a used rook rifle in .22hornet is very useful and I don’t believe in safe queens.
Thanks for an interesting video, I’m not likely to ever get to Africa but I do have a Ruger No1 chambered for .416 REM, great fun to shoot and surprisingly accurate, certainly raises a few eyebrows on the range. I have shot deer with it but is certainly enough gun.
Ok so basically I want an economical gun to fire at ranges because 30mm is expensive now, I want a semi auto 500 nitro express with a oversized magwell
My 458 Win Mag is a civillian Mauser action, whereas my FN 9.3x62 is a Belgian Mauser. But my dream DG rifle is an interwar sidelock or droplock double rifle, with doll's head bite, in either 470NE or 500NE. IMHO it's THE rifle to own for DG. IF I ever win Lotto, it's the first toy I'm getting!!
I remember reading Harry Selby. S on his 416 Rigby he was hesitant to use it because it was built on a standard 98, he said it was pretty opened up but he eventually shot the barrel out so I guess Rigby did a heck of a job to last 40+ years in Africa, the gun was sold and now resides in some lucky guy s wall in the USA Selby also own,d WD , Bells .275 Rigby only if those rifles could talk
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns would that happen to be the new model 600. Seen some on it very modular design with about five different versions. Very nice 👍 everything from traditional ( very nice 👍) to a tactical look.
@@MikeGuadango your are correct the 527 is no longer as well. And it’s no longer the Mauser style claw however it’s kinda controlled much like a Sako on there new 600. TFBTV released a video on them a couple days ago. From a shot show type thing on the other side of the pond.
I wonder just how much does the elephant or chargering lion cares about how well the mag bottom plate is finished As usual a polite and low keyed post. TY
I'm in Washington State it's hard to find competent gunsmiths that know what they're doing and care. Two of the best is Ed La Pour and Bruce Farman in Bremerton. Farman does stocks, Ed does metallurgy. They belong to the American Gun Guild of custom gunsmiths.
Thanks Charles - I was supposed to go two years ago; then last year... now delayed again....not easy times. The guns remain great though. All the best.
@@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888 true but my .243 Win does all I need here. Sadly an exotic mouth to feed isn’t in the budget for the foreseeable future.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns may you get there sooner than later. These are some crazy times. Thank you for the great videos. They are informative and entertaining.
So are these under the limits for the Trudope ban? I believe I read that anything capable of shooting above a certain muzzle energy was banned. I assume it was so no one could whack him from far away. 🙄
Hi Jim - Thee should be okay - they are not really long range rifles as you know and the power numbers are good but not in the military class. Take care Jim : )
You didn't happen to show the hole where the fuse goes for that cannon of a rifle..just kidding. Luv watching your videos and I'm watching some of your oldest videos where you were younger looking..haha
the owner of the gun shop i used to go to tried to talk me into buying a cz safari rifle in 505 gibbs. for 600$ but it just seemed silly cause i dont hunt and ammo costs a fortune so i passed on it. and another trip i almost bought a mod 70 in 458mag with a cutts comp on the barrel just because it was cool but i would have had to sell something cause it wasn't as cheap as the cz .
The 8 X 60 was a product of the Versailles treaty, (Circa 1920). Since post W W 1 Germany was prohibited from making rifles chambered in the 7.92 X 57 military cartridge. The clever Germans designed and manufactured rifles and ammo in 8 X 60. Because the Mauser rifles were control feed. It was possible to use the 7.92 X 57 military ammo in rifles chambered in 8 X 60. Thus getting around the restrictions of the Versailles Treaty. Once the Versailles Treaty fell by the wayside in the early 1930's. The need for rifles and ammo chambered in 8 X 60. soon ceased. Both rifles chambered in 8 X 60, and 8 X 60 ammo are rarely encountered today. As they have been out of production for at least 80 years. If you have a rifle chambered in 8 X 60 and it has a controlled feed mechanism? You can safely use standard 8 MM Mauser/7.92 X 57, ammo in it.
Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with hunting to put food on the table, or hunting to thin out a over populated herd that would starve to death because there's not enough food to feed all of them.
Great content! Do you sell any of your guns? I would be interested in your Savage Impluse 300 Win Mag straight bolt. Thanks from Vancouver, we could meet at Reliable? 🇨🇦👍
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns that Hirt .i did that with a mod 11 16 ga Remington, the extractor hurt me bad. Thank you for your videos i do in joy watching Again than you!!! Jensen
No, they arent comparable, 404 Jeffrey is a couple leagues above the 45-70. The Jeffrey does the same velocity with a 400 grain bullet that the 45-70 does with a 250 grain bullet. The Jeffrey has nearly double foot pounds of energy behind it.
@@handsomejack1994 You should check Buffalo Bore Ammo sometime. Here are the specifics---Item 8B/20---405 gr---JFN---2000FPS---ME 3597 ft lbs. Its almost comparable. 2200 FPS for the 400 gr in the 404.
@@RH-xr8ms that's some hot stuff, but theres still about 1000 foot pounds of diffrence, with the Jeffrey not even hot loaded, but I'll have to look into buying some of that 45-70 ammo, seems like a big boy round.
@@handsomejack1994- I have never had opportunity to learn anything about the 404 before this video where 2200 fps was mentioned. The rifle I use with the Buffalo ammo is a Uberti replica of 1885 Winchester with 30 inch HEAVY octagon barrel. When I touch that off, even my unborn great grandchildren know about it. Its manageable, but not one to take out rabbit or prairie dog hunting .
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I hope all countries interested in freedom understand that freedom is not just a word; it means taking the risks and sticking with freedom irrespective of what costs might be associated with it. Law by law any country can create a jail for its citizens - all in the name of security.
Love your content, But I can't stand people who want to shoot already going extinct animals. It is hilarious when big game hunters get rightfully killed by a rampaging elephant. But that's just me 😊😂
The most wholesome gun channel, thank you.
For some reason I read that as gruesome 😂
Agree
Thanks for bringing us some fine examples Mike. Dangerous game cartridges and rifles for Africa, along with safari stories, have always interested me. Take care.
Work well for big bears and Asian Buffalo
Really enjoy when you take the rifles apart and show us the inner workings.. I'm starting a restoration on another savage model 1920, that I picked up on CGN..
thanks, you are making my boring days so happy with your fantastic videos, cheers, and best from Toronto
The Heym Express Rifles are some of the Nicest Big Bore rifles.
Nice video! I am currently building a .404 Jeffery in a Springfield P1917 action. Magazine lengthening and related metalwork were all necessary. Keep up the good work!
Hi Joaquin - That's an ideal build - the P1917 is such a fine action - as you know. I bought a rifle recently based on the Enfield in .308 Norma - fantastic combination. All the best to you - I look forward to pics of the rifle. Cheers!
Would love to get my hands on a .404, or .333 Jeffery
404 is agreat old African cartridge
My gun collecting father passed away almost two years ago, and two of my favorite rifles that he left me are a Whitworth Express (a la Interarms/Zastava) in 375 H&H and a custom .458 Win Mag built on an Argentinian Mauser 98 action. Both are really good quality rifles, but the 375 sees much more range time, using some lightweight Speer 235 soft points for paper punching. But the 458 Win Mag sure is nice for bragging rights. 🙂
Hi Clint, I'm sorry about your Dad's passing - I lost my Dad when I was just out of school. The Whitworth Express is a fantastic rifle in a great cal. as you know. Not easy to find that model. The custom .458 sounds like exactly the type of rifle I like to have built - I often shoot the .458 with milder loads and recoil is okay, while accuracy is excellent. Several people wrote me that they use the .458 for everything. Take care and all the best Clint!
The 458 Win Mag is a superb DG calibre!! I've used mine on 7 African DG to date - all 1-shot kills (including two DG on the run: a hippo through the neck at 120yds, and a head shot on a cape buffalo at 50yds). 👍
Had a Whitworth in 375. Cool, relatively obscure rifle, but the damn floor plate would pop open after every shot. I’ve read on forums that others have had this issue as well.
What a great video. Reminds me of my childhood. Hear in the Indian subcontinent during my childhood one would come across big bore rifles dating back to the early 20th century. Now I feel they have been lost in time
I had stringing once. I managed to untangle myself.
9.3x62 works great in a standard 98 Mauser action .
And it is a great round for North America!!
9.3x62 is great but not legal for big 5 in most African countries.
@@thehopperhopes6365 true but don’t plan on going to Africa ever so doesn’t bother me at all!
@@thehopperhopes6365 Incorrect! The 9.3x62 is still legal as it's a "grandfathered" calibre in Africa. I used mine to take a cape buff in 2018: a one shot kill from right front shoulder to rear left rib. He dropped after staggering 40yds.
"Gunyana" (a well-known game warden) used one for elephant control during his service.
I have a 9.3x62 on a pre ww2 Germania waffen werk . 98 fantastic caliber
Sir, as usual an informative discussion on the immortal mauser98, regardless of manufacturer. I've owned several mausers actions 96 - 98's, never a failure to feed or extract I sold my Brno 550 in 375HH I now carry a Sako Black Bear in 30-06 I'm a believer in open sights and barrel bands. In regard to stringing shots I've had plenty of free floating barrels produce more than my fare share. Please keep up the great work. David South Australia
Hi David, do rifles produced for the southern hemisphere have left hand rifling? I checked out a Lithgow built SMLE once and noticed that the rifling was pitched left! Would that make a great difference in accuracy? It's a rainy day in Washington state.
@@ryanharris6045 hi Ryan, have no idea. I did read somewhere that the British army did try reverse rifling at one stage. Sorry mate cant help you
Hi David - Thank you for being so supportive; I can't wait to be back in Australia! My very best to you!
Love the vids. Thanks so much for taking the time to show us your collection. It’s one thing to own them but it’s something else to use them to educate people 👍🇦🇺
.458 lott with a beefy mauser action would be my pick so many guns so little cash thanks for another great job
Best gun channel for sure. Thanks.
I'll second that, for sure. I appreciate his lack of tacti-beard and blaring rock-and-roll music while rapidly spraying steel plates; choosing instead to focus on the more refined side of firearms life. 🙂
Gary is a great gunsmith. He build my target rifle and did odd jobs on a bunch of their rifles
always a great watch thanks again!!
Thank you JC!
Its so interesting looking back on the concept of what it takes for big game. A century ago a full metal jacket or steel core bullet from a 6.5 or 7x57 or 8mm has taken all kinda if game. It was really the go to. I’ve seen photos of german uboat crews with harvested walrus and polar bears in the Arctic taken with 8x57fmj. Or Scandinavian grizzlies taken with 6.5x54 steel core! Heck even today Canadians and Alaskans will down a moose with a well placed green tip 5.56.
WDM BELL was really right.
So true - a pin will stop a heart; on the other hand - something bigger can be comforting. Dangerous game hunters tell me about game that can tear the hunter to pieces and hunting in grass twice the height of a man - or dense jungles - or any number of places and conditions where getting the bullet to a critical place may not be so easy. Anyway, you're still right - but many prefer a margin of safety; but each to his own to some extent. Many African jurisdictions require minimum .375 H&H as you know; they got fed up collecting shredded hunters and others associated with safari hunting. Thanks for the note.
Hunting ethics and standards of humane killing have changed a lot since then. Bell was also not a hunter in today‘s sense, as in a conservationist, well-regulated recreational hunter. He was an ivory hunter motivated by economics. He used the 7x57 not because it was the best choice but because military 7x57 ammunition was cheap and loaded with high SD bullets. He also went for brain shots on elephants which have considerably larger heads than deer, elk or bears. German u-boat teams didn’t care whether the walrus suffered or how many shots they had to take. They wanted to put meat on the table and used what they had. Stories of old-timey hunters taking huge game with small guns shouldn’t be taken as evidence of said guns' efficacy. They should be seen in the context of their time, a time when smokeless powder big game rifles were still relatively new and adequate arms for dangerous game were few and expensive.
Bell shot most of them with 7x57,but as he came to newer areas and uncertain cobditions the .318 and .400 or ,416 Rigby came nore into use of his there.
@@borkwoof696 this is true of course. However bell is known for saying that you would place the small bullet in the same spot as the larger elephant cartridge. Big or small a head shot is what you’re going for with tuskers. That being said its of course the insurance of having a big bullet that is ethical which is important.
bullet construction probably matters more than size when you are making a head shot.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Highly appreciate your work,Thanks
Great video, as usual. A great point that a skilled gunsmith can build you a top quality big bore of your dreams for far less than one of the big name outfits. Nice tease with the Siamese Mauser action! With a little snooping around, you could do a whole video just on conversions of that action. They have gained an almost cult following as the "poor man's dangerous game rifles", and are frequently found in the hands of serious hunters. Commercial and custom versions, ranging from crude to gorgeous, show up in wild, far-flung places, doing the business of practical hunting rifles, most of them re-chambered in 45/70 or similar large caliber rimmed cartridge. Thank you for interesting young people in the shooting sports, while making old men smile!
Very interesting and thank for sharing your collection with us . I have always been interested in the big rifles.
Thanks Flint - Very interesting area - these big bore powerhouses - nothing quite like 5000 foot pounds : )
Thanks again for sharing your wonderful collection and expertise.
Yes, the Brno CZ-600, is made in .458 Lott.
I know.
I got one.!!!
Love your chanel.
Keep up the good work.
Kudus to you.!!?
Thank you! I didn't know
In 2013, after a DG hunt in Zim, I took my family to a game lodge where the Head Guide had a bolt action Mauser 404 Jeffrey made by the Krupp factory (pre-WWI). I had the good fortune to use this rifle, and it is simply superb to use, with an OUTSTANDING pedigree: 7 owners (5 killed by DG), a hexagonal 26" barrel, leaf sights (to 400yds!), hooded ivory front sight, in an express stock. Wholly original, its' serial number is an unbelievable, single, digit: 7. That's right! It is the 7th rifle produced by Krupp, and they've since offered him many, many thousands of dollars to buy it back for their museum. But the Head Guide replied: "But I'm still using this rifle!!"
And IMHO so it should be, and always remain so!! A grand old workhorse of Africa, STILL being used and earning its keep...... IN AFRICA!! 😊👍
If the owners were killed using the rifle, doesn't that say something about the reliability of the rifle, or the possibility there is something wrong?
@Acharya james oermann, speaker, writer. No! Your view is typical of someone without experience, so here are a few things to consider. Because every situation when facing "Dangerous Game" has the same potential for something going wrong and the hunter(s) being killed. This is because in each case, the uncontrollable variables remain unknown - and will remain so. Even with the best hunter or rifle, such compounding variables as
- bullet deflection by an unseen intervening branch,
- the character of the particular animal, ie: is it pumped up on adrenaline?; has it been wounded by a poacher's snare (VERY common!!) which is making it more than usually aggressive? or, Is it just naturally more cantankerous in nature than other individual game animals?,
- a catastrophic failure in performance of the bullet (within the "Terminal ballistics" stage),
- a complete failure to fire, or a "hang-fire" of the cartridge at the critical moment (leading to poor placement of the bullet, causing the wounding of the animal),
-which are some variables that impact each and every situation.
Every hunter endeavours to dispatch their quarry ethically and humanely, BUT, unfortunately, sometimes they're only wounded. Then it's only ethically and morally right that it then must be "followed up" by the hunter(s) and dispatched. With "Dangerous Game" this invariably means following the animal into the thickest, darkest most inhospitable cover. Being in such a situation, the tables are neatly turned on the hunter(s) because the wounded (and enraged) animal only then needs to stand quietly and motionless to launch his ambush to kill the hunter(s) from only a few feet away. The poor light in thick cover, the imprisoning, intervening bush and sudden rush by the animal compresses the bush against the hunter and hampers the effective use of his rifle (regardless of his skill, nor how good his rifle is!). Quite often this scenario ends in fatal results for the hunter(s).
For example, back in the 90, I had the sad experience in meeting the widow of a very experienced Professional Hunter. His client had wounded an elephant on dusk, which necessitated a "follow up". The PH sent the client back to the vehicle (as required) and the PH went in after the ele. The ele stood very still, and in the gathering dark, the PH didn't see it walked past it. This lapse allowed the ele to steal up from behind and put it's tusk into the PHs' lower back and to come out at the PHs' opposite shoulder, killing him instantly.
Another time, a PH "followed up" a cape buffalo with his client in the mid-morning. As they climbed out of a dry river bed, the buff was waiting in ambush for them - it charged from a few feet and killed them both.
Different scenarios, same outcome. I hope these examples underlines the point that in every situation - no matter how good a PH or the rifle is - it NEVER garuantees a successful outcome.
And to all those who will cry: "Why hunt these animals?" I'll respond with: "Why do people jump out of a perfectly sound aircraft?" Or: "Why do people indulge in rock climbing up vertical rock faces hundreds of feet high - with only their fingers and toes and a pouch of chalk for their safety?" We just all follow our desires!!
I worked at a safari lodge in the Kruger National Park, South Africa, as a guide.
There was a Daga boy close to the lodge with a broken knee, posing a safety risk and the decision was made to put him down, 3 experienced men went out on foot to locate him and do the job. He saw them as they saw him and he charged immediately, not slowed by the bad leg at all. Two of the men got off 3 shots each on rapid fire into his chest, a .458 WinMag and a. 416 Rigby, he didn't slow down, the third man ,trying for an aimed head shot eventually fired at almost point blank range, all 3 men dived out the way,one of them hit it in the neck and so the spine, paralyzing it from the neck down.
The buffalo was still trying to gore them, an 8th shot in the back of the head killed it . A man alone wouldn't have made it
@acharyajamesoermannspeaker6563 NOTHING wrong with the rifle - I used it, and the present owner has used it for 40yrs - it's just that those killed weren't up to the task!!
Well said. 👍
Nice, really nice video!! Too bad Brno is no more in North America and that CZ is not making the 550 anymore!! Really sad! Lucky you to have all those beauties!!
I didn't know they're gone : (
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns yeah Brno is CZ and they don’t offer anything in North America. The 550 was discontinued a few years back and now all of the 500 series are also and been replaced with the 600 series! I need to find my self a Brno 21-22 or ZKK 600 or even better more harder to find the ultimate ZG47… in 9.3x62! I would make me quite happy!!
Nice video! I don't hunt but read a lot of Capstick and some Ruark and Hemingway in my 20's. Now I'm addicted to rifles in African calibers.
Love the history and design!
Thank you for your video, Sir, you really put a lot of effort and preparation into it, highly appreciated!
Another great video
These truly are fascinating but these are way out of my means and I'm left handed. If I ever hunt abroad I'm taking my Ruger Hawkeye 30-06 and Ruger 375 Alaskan, both lefties. For that occasion I even have a classic custom beauty walnut stock ready for the 30-06 for a special hunt. The 375 Alaskan is going to stay in its laminate.
I know those aren't Rigby or custom rifle material but when you don't have the scratch for those you just make do and the Ruger big game rifles they offered in 9.3, 375, and 416 in those Hawkeye models were probably the most economical.
All beautiful rifles and a person can't really go wrong with any one of them. For myself, my choice is the pre-64 Winchester Model 70 Super Grade in .375 H&H.
Anyways, thank you for sharing what such great guns look like under the hood.
Would be a thrill to hunt the big 5… great video.
It’s now the Big Six as the hippo has been added to the list.
Thanks Brent!
I have a interarms mark x chambered in 416 Taylor improved, also a Winchester model 70 safari in 416 Remington. Both guns are very accurate, and fun to shoot. Load development from the bench gets a little rough on the shoulder after 20 or so rounds lol.
Yes ! Mike's show is the best ! I love his taste in guns !
Imagine polar bears and walrus taken with k98 8x57FMJ by ww2 german uboat crews. Epic
Great video, Mike! I love 98 Mausers! I wish I was able to afford one in 458 Winchester Magnum or 375 H@H, but for now my 35 Whelen will just have to be my big bore. Of course it will have to share with my 45/70’s. Lots of power in both, more than enough to handle any critter that walks on these two American continents. My cousin has a pre-war Drilling that sports a 9.3x72 barrel. I’d love to own it, but it would only be a safe queen due to its magnificent condition. Mike, thank you for such a wonderful video and explanation of these actions!
Thank you for writing Ron! The Whelan is one of my favorites - as you likely know - so practical and powerful; same for the 45/70 - my friend loads it in his Ruger #1 and the penetration in wood is about the same as my .458. The drilling is another gem! I truly appreciate your kind words Ron. All the best to you.
Try getting an Interarms Mauser or a Whitworth bolt action? There are always a few for sale on the net. 👍
See if you find a 275 or 280 .35 bullet ,youre closer then. If you find a 310 Woodleigh together with 275 of their make. Youre close to some of the older British .350s same bullet.
Search for a Zastava in 458 , or get an older( used ) Ruger and have it rebarreled .
Thanks for the Great info video brother, see you on the next one.
Wonderful firearms channel my man. Keep it up!
Hey it's me again Mike. Another fine video that I just discovered. Even in my wildest imagination I never really thought or even dreamed about going to Africa to hunt dangerous game or any other game for that matter. It just wouldn't be the financial cards for me. I also never thought about owning an "Africa Hunting" or "Dangerous Game" rifle. Not even a 375 H&H. Until recently that is.
All of my reputable reloading manuals show that the 35 Whelen will drive any comparable weight bullet that can be loaded into the Whelen's '06 case, somewhat faster than the 9.3x62. Although I have only in recent years become aware of the 9.3x62, I seem to have developed a fascination for and even have become totally enamored with the idea of owning one of those. I recently saw a beautiful Husqvarna sell on GunBroker for more than I was willing at the time to pull out the credit card for. Now I'm having non-buyers remorse. I'm hopeless. I want one. I've read both yeas and nays as to the whether the 9.3x62 is legal for dangerous game in all, some or any of the African countries. In my imaginary world where money is no object, I think it would be my choice. I do know that Privi Partisan loads a light jacketed 285 grain bullet at around 2200 fps that works fine for deer sized game, so theoretically I could have some use for it here in the lower 48.
I already have a custom sporterized Siamese Mauser 45-70 in case the dinosaurs come back. One of my reputable company reloading manuals show a load for 45-70 in the Siamese Mauser that will drive a 400 grain bullet to 2200 fps. A ballistic calculator shows that results in 4258 ft lbs of muzzle energy. Do you suppose my imaginary African PH would let me use that on the heavies? Happy hunting boys and girls!😄
Hi Dave, For sure the 9.3x62 is one of those captivating cartridges. A few viewers wrote me (some from Alaska) that after they "got fed up" with failures due to bullet failure and distance failure for whatever reason - they switched to the 9.3x62 and never looked back. Simply put, this cartridge drops anything just the way a hunter wants. The massive frontal area and long bullets smash through where others fail and if one shoots at any reasonable range - the outcome is inevitable. Stranegely absent in some hunting laws in Africa - the 9.3x62 served there for decades against anything. The German loadings are especially fine - the RWS TIG and TUG and newer loading are really something. Here's a link
rws-ammunition.com/en/products/centerfire-rifle-cartridges/rws-9-3x62-uni-classic-19-0g
Thanks for taking the time to write. All the best.
A rifle cartridge I’d be interested in doing one day would be the 400 Whelen wildcat cartridge with a .458 inch shoulder, as Mr. Whelen originally designed it. I’d think it would be perfectly adequate for any big game on Earth.
If I ever would want a purely african gun I would get a Cape gun in 375 flanged magnum and 28 bore in a falling block action. I would make it myself.
Hi, when you say you would " make a falling block" are you a smith? Can you make a falling block action Axel?
I went hunting in the Czech Republic in the 90s with a Ruger No. 1 with Mannlicher stock and 20" barrel and caliber 7x57mm. I shot a roe buck there at 180 m. 7x57 is a good hunting cartridge. I also had a pre-war Mauser in 7x57 (1937) and an FN Mauser in 9.3x62 caliber. Sako are good weapons too. Back then, I had a Sako 375 H&H converted to the 404 Jeffery caliber by a Nuremberg gunsmith. I had a Ruger #1 in .416 Rigby too. I am a German from Franconia and now live in Thailand.
Hello - I remember you! That Ruger is about as good as a deer hunting rifle gets. Hope you're getting in some jungle hunting in Thailand. Very difficult conditions - at least for me.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I sold all of my weapons in Germany. Foreigners are not allowed to own weapons in Thailand. At least as far as I know
Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina
Excellent video. Very interesting!
Thank you!
Very informative and well explained 👍
Thanks 🙏
Thank you vrod1a
Your channel is like a UA-cam gun show. 20 years ago gun shows (as you likely know) were full of wood and steel guns, genuine milsurps, actual antiques and great wars classics. Nowadays... utter garbage. I thoroughly enjoy your show and tell of a large spectrum of new and old world guns. Thank you.
When i was 22 i went to visit the holland and holland show room in NYC. A lifelong dream just to see it. Obviously couldn’t buy a thing but a hat but still.
Once the gentleman realized i knew rifles and loved the company they got excited and gave me a pair of white gloves and they started opening the back safes. Showing me antique punt guns made by H&H, all kind of fresh Mauser action and double rifles made for new clients and even stat sheets for calibers the company hadn’t released yet. Makes me lament i could never go to Africa or buy an H&H accept for maybe a used rook rifle haha. Then again a used rook rifle in .22hornet is very useful and I don’t believe in safe queens.
You are the Master!!
Thank you Les!
Thanks for an interesting video, I’m not likely to ever get to Africa but I do have a Ruger No1 chambered for .416 REM, great fun to shoot and surprisingly accurate, certainly raises a few eyebrows on the range. I have shot deer with it but is certainly enough gun.
Ok so basically I want an economical gun to fire at ranges because 30mm is expensive now, I want a semi auto 500 nitro express with a oversized magwell
Hahaha
I'm pretty sure that PSA has the 30 round PMAG's for that on sale right now, and the 100 round drums should come on the market any day now. ;-)
Yes shells for 12 inch artillery have risen dramatically in price! 😎
My 458 Win Mag is a civillian Mauser action, whereas my FN 9.3x62 is a Belgian Mauser.
But my dream DG rifle is an interwar sidelock or droplock double rifle, with doll's head bite, in either 470NE or 500NE. IMHO it's THE rifle to own for DG. IF I ever win Lotto, it's the first toy I'm getting!!
I remember reading Harry Selby. S on his 416 Rigby he was hesitant to use it because it was built on a standard 98, he said it was pretty opened up but he eventually shot the barrel out so I guess Rigby did a heck of a job to last 40+ years in Africa, the gun was sold and now resides in some lucky guy s wall in the USA Selby also own,d WD , Bells .275 Rigby only if those rifles could talk
Great video. Thank you. Much better to have the barrelled actions out of the stocks for this subject.
There is something about bolt action rifles that thrill me . Especially the older models.
Me too Jay!
The CZ 550 Magnum has been discontinued. Prices have gone through the roof.
Yes, I was Lucky and was able to buy a rare LH 375 H&H
The CZ 550 sadly is no longer in production. I think production on it stopped about 1-2 years ago.
Thanks Dale - I'm being told BRNO is working on something exceptional - can't wait : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns would that happen to be the new model 600. Seen some on it very modular design with about five different versions. Very nice 👍 everything from traditional ( very nice 👍) to a tactical look.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns great news. It seems as if CZ is no longer building CRF actions. They cancelled the 527 as well
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Hope so.
@@MikeGuadango your are correct the 527 is no longer as well. And it’s no longer the Mauser style claw however it’s kinda controlled much like a Sako on there new 600. TFBTV released a video on them a couple days ago. From a shot show type thing on the other side of the pond.
I wonder just how much does the elephant or chargering lion cares about how well the mag bottom plate is finished As usual a polite and low keyed post. TY
You're right Michael
I'm in Washington State it's hard to find competent gunsmiths that know what they're doing and care. Two of the best is Ed La Pour and Bruce Farman in Bremerton. Farman does stocks, Ed does metallurgy. They belong to the American Gun Guild of custom gunsmiths.
You do a very good job with your Chanel.
Thanks Randy - every good word is much appreciated
Right on
Best channel
1 of the best channel around I like ur videos just awesome 👏 thank u for posting ⭐️even tho u r Canadian u r awesome lol 😆 just kidding we love u guys
Thank you Eric 👌
Very good nice job
I always wanted a .416 Rigby but have accepted I’ll never hunt Africa. Thank you for another excellent and interesting video.
Thanks Charles - I was supposed to go two years ago; then last year... now delayed again....not easy times. The guns remain great though. All the best.
One doesn't have to hunt Africa in order to enjoy a fine hunting firearm in .416 Rigby.
@@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888 true but my .243 Win does all I need here. Sadly an exotic mouth to feed isn’t in the budget for the foreseeable future.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns may you get there sooner than later. These are some crazy times. Thank you for the great videos. They are informative and entertaining.
So are these under the limits for the Trudope ban? I believe I read that anything capable of shooting above a certain muzzle energy was banned. I assume it was so no one could whack him from far away. 🙄
460 weatherby is still ok.
The limit I believe is 10000 joules 7300 ft/lbs?
Hi Jim - Thee should be okay - they are not really long range rifles as you know and the power numbers are good but not in the military class. Take care Jim : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns For sure they aren’t long range, but the gov doesn’t need to make sense. Just to make it sound good to the uninformed.
You didn't happen to show the hole where the fuse goes for that cannon of a rifle..just kidding.
Luv watching your videos and I'm watching some of your oldest videos where you were younger looking..haha
Good video,sir where are you from
Would like to know your thoughts on the new CZ 600 series.
the owner of the gun shop i used to go to tried to talk me into buying a cz safari rifle in 505 gibbs. for 600$ but it just seemed silly cause i dont hunt and ammo costs a fortune so i passed on it. and another trip i almost bought a mod 70 in 458mag with a cutts comp on the barrel just because it was cool but i would have had to sell something cause it wasn't as cheap as the cz .
Good reasoning.
I want to Africa a little over 30 years ago I took a 30-06 and a 375 h&h and a 505 Gibbs.
Perfect!
I feel that the .338 Lapua and .338 ultra mag are more manageable and accurate.
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Hi sir can u make video on german mauser 8×60s mm safari rifle with rimeless cartridge and these cartridge r available in market
Will do - thanks for asking
@@UnitedStatesOfGunsThanks
And tell us the difference between 8.57 and 8.60 both call 8mm or different
The 8 X 60 was a product of the Versailles treaty, (Circa 1920). Since post W W 1 Germany was prohibited from making rifles chambered in the 7.92 X 57 military cartridge. The clever Germans designed and manufactured rifles and ammo in 8 X 60.
Because the Mauser rifles were control feed. It was possible to use the 7.92 X 57 military ammo in rifles chambered in 8 X 60. Thus getting around the restrictions of the Versailles Treaty. Once the Versailles Treaty fell by the wayside in the early 1930's. The need for rifles and ammo chambered in 8 X 60. soon ceased.
Both rifles chambered in 8 X 60, and 8 X 60 ammo are rarely encountered today. As they have been out of production for at least 80 years. If you have a rifle chambered in 8 X 60 and it has a controlled feed mechanism? You can safely use standard 8 MM Mauser/7.92 X 57, ammo in it.
Cartridges for Dangerous Game perhaps?
Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with hunting to put food on the table, or hunting to thin out a over populated herd that would starve to death because there's not enough food to feed all of them.
I appreciate nuts and bolts
Great content! Do you sell any of your guns? I would be interested in your Savage Impluse 300 Win Mag straight bolt. Thanks from Vancouver, we could meet at Reliable? 🇨🇦👍
Hello and thank you - sadly the Impulse sold awhile ago - I'm waiting for more to come in. All the best to you.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns is there another way to contact you?
What happened to your index finger?
Thank s I like your video!!!
This is a conversation about dangerous game and African hunting rifles, so it had to have been a run-in with one or more of the Big 5. ;-)
Hi Jensen! I was working on a semi and my finger slipped as the action slammed shut - that'll wake you up in the morning. God Bless.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns that Hirt .i did that with a mod 11 16 ga Remington, the extractor hurt me bad. Thank you for your videos i do in joy watching
Again than you!!!
Jensen
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Where's the side by side rifle ❓ You only get two shots,but one or none of the gun jams . 😎
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What is Dangerous ? The Game or the Cartridge ?
Have you ever hunted in africa?
Yes - hoping to return soon; depends on health etc... guess I'll see what happens next.
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Seems like the 404 jeffery with 400 gr bullets is comparable with the 45/70 with 405 bullets. ????
No, they arent comparable, 404 Jeffrey is a couple leagues above the 45-70. The Jeffrey does the same velocity with a 400 grain bullet that the 45-70 does with a 250 grain bullet. The Jeffrey has nearly double foot pounds of energy behind it.
@@handsomejack1994 You should check Buffalo Bore Ammo sometime. Here are the specifics---Item 8B/20---405 gr---JFN---2000FPS---ME 3597 ft lbs.
Its almost comparable. 2200 FPS for the 400 gr in the 404.
Rws and German loads is 2350 fps 400 grain in .404
@@RH-xr8ms that's some hot stuff, but theres still about 1000 foot pounds of diffrence, with the Jeffrey not even hot loaded, but I'll have to look into buying some of that 45-70 ammo, seems like a big boy round.
@@handsomejack1994- I have never had opportunity to learn anything about the 404 before this video where 2200 fps was mentioned. The rifle I use with the Buffalo ammo is a Uberti replica of 1885 Winchester with 30 inch HEAVY octagon barrel. When I touch that off, even my unborn great grandchildren know about it. Its manageable, but not one to take out rabbit or prairie dog hunting .
me gusta el video lastima que siempre lo hablan en ingles y yo no entiendo nada de ingles estamos en sudamerica y tendrian que pasarlo en castellano ya me canse de decirlo pero parece que no me dan '''''''''' bolaaaaaaaaaaaa''''''''''
Lo siento mucho. Ojalá supiera cómo ofrecer en español. Significas mucho para mí. Tal vez habrá una manera. Gracias por estar aquí.
Habra que aprender ingles y quiza ser mas respetuoso no le parece?
I hope TRUDOLF doesn’t make em illegal
I hope all countries interested in freedom understand that freedom is not just a word; it means taking the risks and sticking with freedom irrespective of what costs might be associated with it. Law by law any country can create a jail for its citizens - all in the name of security.
Love your content,
But I can't stand people who want to shoot already going extinct animals.
It is hilarious when big game hunters get rightfully killed by a rampaging elephant.
But that's just me 😊😂
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