On my 16th Birthday, my Father took me to Sears/Robuck in Livonia, Michigan to purchase my first rifle. I had been doing some research using the Shooters Bible for a couple of years prior to that eventful day and was very interested in the 7mm Remington Magnum Cartridge, that was introduced in 1962. Once we found the sporting goods area in the store, an older man was standing behind the counter directly in front of the rifles on display eager to assist us. My father struck up a conversation about rifles and the 30-06 cartridge with him. Both of them were WWII U.S. Army Combat E.T.O. Veterans. "So....What can I help you with today?" My father replied, "He needs a hunting rifle for his 16th Birthday." I looked at him and said, "Sir, a nice bolt action was what I had in mind.....maybe a Remington 700!" "Good choice son!" Was his reply. "What caliber?" My Father quickly answered for me......"Got any in 30-06?" "Sure do!" "I got two Remington 700 ADL's in bolt action that came in yesterday." He turned and reached for a rifle that was gleaming in the light of the presentation rack. I noticed that there was a gunsmith pad on the counter and he laid the rifle down on the pad for me to inspect. My father picked it up and was thoroughly giving it a quick go over and inspection. My father said.... "Yep!" "30-06 is what you need!" Then the salesman asked me, "Son, what do you plan on hunting with your new rifle?" I replied, "White Tail, Mule Deer, Antelope, Elk, Moose............and maybe more!" He laughed and said to my father as he took two green & white boxes of ammo out from under the counter and opened them and said......."Here is a 30-06 in 180 grain and here is a newer caliber that Remington came out with a couple years ago." It's called a 7mm Remington Magnum!" "It will reach out and touch..... over a quarter of a mile away and hit very hard!" "You could kill anything in North America with it!" He put the two cartridges next to each other on the counter. My father picked them both up and eyeballed the difference in their shell casing size. Dad said....."That's a big shell compared to the 30-06!" "Yep!" "And the F.P.S. is over 3,000!" I smiled and said....."That's the one for me!" He then replaced the 30-06 ADL back into the display rack and said to us, "Give me a minute and I'll be right back!" While he was gone I was looking at the scopes that were in the display case directly in front of us. I had done some homework on my preferred scope for my new rifle and was starring at a Leupold 3-9 / 50mm optic V-II. The price on the tag was $103.00 dollars. I had saved up some paperboy money and bottle money for a few years and had $130.00 cash in my pocket. My father had no idea. Out from around the corner came the salesman with a Green & White Remington box. "I have not had the chance to open it yet and inspect it!" I noticed that on the end of the box was printed Remington 7mm Magnum ADL. He pulled the rifle out of the box and protective wrapping it was in and did a quick inspection of the brand new rifle. He then handed it directly to me with a big smile on his face and said, "Happy Birthday Son!" As I held it in my young hands I knew then, that all of my dreams of owning my own hunting rifle were going to be real that November 6, 1966. My father paid $99.00 dollars for the rifle with a WWII Veteran discount being offered from Sears/Robuck. I purchased the Leupold scope and a box of Remington 175 Grain Core Lockt Ammunition. That was the beginning of my gun ownership and years of blessed days and nights spent with my Father and Brother's in the out of doors, hunting and enjoying the bounties of nature. I was proud to help provide food for our family of nine. Today I still have that Rifle. It has a 24 inch Stainless Steel Barrel and is blued in a dull black matted finish that I had done back in 1976. The original dark bluing was wearing off. There is no rust anywhere on the rifle, no pitting as well. It has a beautiful Monte Carlo American Walnut Checkered Stock with an original Remington Recoil crossed ribbed vented recoil pad. I have never had any issue with the trigger sear or a faulty unexpected discharge. I have a friend who is a gunsmith and he lightly jeweled the original bolt for me, back in 1976. The Rifle is now 54 years old and looks just as fine as it did the day my Father and Mother purchased it for me on my 16th Birthday. I also purchased a men's shaving brush that day at Sears/Robuck and still have that as a tool for wiping a light coat of gun oil on all of my rifles after handling them. I will be 70 this year and a good friend and I will be hunting Antelope in Wyoming this coming September. I have not been hunting in Wyoming since October of 1977. The same Leupold Scope that I purchased in 1966 is still mounted on the 700 ADL. The matching of the two fine American Craftsmanship Legends, has been deadly accurate and my 700 ADL Remington Rifle, has always shot and performed shooting....."Rope straight!" Even at over 500 yards. And that my friends, is my story. The freedom to hunt and provide food for your family, as well as being blessed with our time spent out in God's Country, where ever your freedom of choice takes you in your life, is one of our liberties as Americans. Thanks for taking the time to read a bit of my history as a proud American who grew up in different times and is still enjoying getting old. I pray that you have a very blessed life. Sincerely, Dave G.
i was 3 when you got yours . i was born nov. 6 1963 . i got mine in 1987 . 700 bdl in 30-06 . worked a lot of overtime to get it . cost $450.00 then . still looks like new . and the only change was to a mcmillan fiberglass stock back in 97 . and i took the jeweling off of my bolt . and also never had any issue with my trigger . had mine set to 3# in 1990 . got mine in kalamazoo mi . i know the store you got yours in . i grew up in warren mi .
Ron I was just born when you got yours. I too was 16 when I got my own Remington 700 in 25-06. I believe it was in the year 2003. Still have it, and I'm in the process of re-barreling it as I have shot the barrel out. It'll still be a 25-06 though.
Dave, I am same age as you and a closely related story- I got a Parker Hale in.308 - still got it and it still cloverleafs three shots at 100 metres. It is my go-to rifle and will be going to one of my sons. I hope there is meat around for the table when they get to use it. God Bless.
I have a 700BDL out of the custom shop in 7mm Rem Mag. I paid over $500 for it back in the late 80's early 90's. What a beautiful rifle it is all hand engraved and checkered! It is a tac driver. When I first seen that rifle I knew I had to have it. I didn't have the money for it at the time so I put it on lay away and slowly paid it off over the next several months. Now I have done well enough I can buy any rifle I want but that 700 BDL is my go to when long distance is the next best thing to being there!
"I'm not an expert." Oh, you're an expert! Thanks for the reviews. I have two new production 700s. A stainless steel 5R in .308 and a BDL in .270 Win. I love them both. Great guns.
Thank you! I saw a 5R put 10 .308 bullets - I think they were Berger - into a group that a dime covered at 200 yards; scope was a Night Force and the shooter was in some kind of law enforcement - was vague about it. Even he was surprises. Great shooter though!
I believe it. I saw my dad put 3 rds of 7mm mag into a 2.75 inch group at a ranged 722 yards. He has a seekins havoc with a night force on it. He's on his second barrel with it, that he had custom made and hand fitted. It'll shoot a dime in his hands no problem at 200 yards. He shoots a 184gr Berger.@@UnitedStatesOfGuns
I have a 1975 700 BDL in 7mm Magnum. An absolute tack driver. It was well used by whoever had it before me. The stock has a very amateur refinish job and I would say bluing is about 60 %. It was a gun show buy for 450.00. Came with a Bushnell 4X38 scope that looks as old as the rifle. I thought that was a little on the high side but I just loved the feel and the smooth action. Barrel looked great . Rifling is deep and clean. Couldn't be happier.
Just have the gun reblued and re finish the stock ! You can not find that kind of accuracy. Every day are the smoothness of the action you got a real treasure, just refinished the stock and blue it 😊
I've been shooting Rem 700 in .270 since i was big enough to keep it from punching me in the face. My model 700 is older than i am and it's one of the most accurate rifles I've ever fired.
I realize it's late gettin in this discussion, but my dad awarded/gave me a Model 700/270Win, for my 13th birthday. That was 1974, so I gather my rifle is vintage and may have originated from Remington's custom shop as my Uncle had a gun shop in Corpus Christi, Texas. Any thoughts?
Im 42 and mine was made in 75, 270 bdl. Love it bought it second hand in the mid 90’s. I believe it was $399 With a redfield wide view scope. It’s put a lot of deer in the freezer. Even a couple on the wall.
I enjoyed this video! Thank you, I have an old 700 CDL, BDL, the higher grade for finish? It's Perfect, Really, it has the old style rear sight and serial #276,254. On the barrel in front of the receiver is stamped, 64. No letter codes anywhere. It's got the old style, possibly original, Bushnell 3x9 scope, also perfect, and leather sling. I feel it's a time capsule cause it's original and perfect. I got it from an elderly gentleman who was trying to sell it at a gun shop that only deals with new guns, they said no, so I met him at his car and bought it for $300 with 13 boxes of ammo! That's the price he set so I jumped. Turns out he knew my dad back in those days when they were both deer hunting. He said that he may have 400 rounds through the gun in it's life. As much as I appreciate newer technology, I am true to the older classics.
My dad bought his ADL 30-06 at JM Fields back in the mid 70s, my brother still has it. Thta rifle has taken so many deer it is redicuous. I love that rifle, it taught me and my brother how to shoot and it will keep on for generations.
Thanks for the Remington 700 presentation. You are definitely correct about these rifles retaining their value. I purchased a 700 BDL Deluxe in 1999 and sold it for the same amount as the original purchase. That said, in retrospect, I shouldn't have sold it but doing so gave me other options I can't complain about. The BDL is the finest rifle I've owned with the possible exception of my Model 70 purchased in the mid 1960s.
I was told my 1985 700 BDL 30-06 is a valuable "classic", my 1992 700 Mountain Rifle, 7mm-08, Walnut stock, blued barrel is also quite valuable now. Just bought a 783 Walnut Edition in 7mm Rem Mag...Sweet shooter for a newer model, reminds me of the early 700 ADL's in looks. The last gasp of Remington...
I’ve got a 1964 bdl 270. It’s a mountain rifle, so it’s light weights and small. I got it from my dad, who got it from his dad. It’s the best hunting gun I’ve ever had and I wouldn’t trade it for the world
I've got an old 700 BDL in .243 that was gifted to me. I looked it up a while back and can't remember the exact year, but I think I determined it to be from sometime in the 70's. It is indeed a fine rifle, and in great shape.
I have an ADL .243 that was my "Santa Claus" Christmas gift in 1973. I was 16. I didn't hit everything I ever shot at but everything I ever hit with it, was taken home. Seems like it was under $200 new but it is priceless now. I just ordered a 700 in a PCR .260. I'll come back and let everyone know if me and a new 700 can still shoot. :-) A lot of enjoyable history with this video. :-) :-) :-)
I talked a friend of mine into buying a 700 BDL in 243 back in 1990...He still has it! He was a small guy and didn't like shooting my 30-06, amazing rifles! I've had numerous Weatherby's and Sako's, none have been more accurate than my 700's.
I have a 700 bdl 30-06, my dad gave it to me for Christmas when I was 15 or 16 in honor of my first whitetail harvest! I'm 30 now and still have it, don't shot it much but I clean it at least once a year even if it lives in a safe! Don't keep you gun in operational condition the only thing thats gonna get killed is you lol
I have a 66 Remington 700 222 from the Remington custom shop with a 24 inch barrel . Been in the family for over 50 years. Absolutely mint condition. Dad bought it because a man who ordered it had to back out. I have an old Luepold 3.5-10 on it. I shot 50 rounds yesterday. Still an awesome piece of history.
I have a 700 adl in 270 win that was made in 1963 and it looks exactly the same as your 67 except mine has an aluminum butt plate. It's a super accurate rifle. I believe that is a cutout for stripper clips. I have a 1948 721 in 30/06 that has the same cutout. And my 721 in 270 win made in 1953 doesn't have the cutout. Not sure why they went back to the cutout in the first years of the 700. But yes the earlier ones definitely feel smoother and just better quality. I do have a Remington 673 in 350 rem mag that they built on the model 7 action that is also super smooth and made very well. It was made in 2003. Maybe I just got a good one? But i never had a Remington that didn't shoot, even the 760 pumps shoot great.
I'm a recent subscriber but I always learn something from your videos. I work at Remington and am a big fan of the rifles but there is a difference in the finish of the older rifles. Keep up the good work.
Bought my 700 bdl in 30 - 06 in 1986 in Darmstadt Germany while in the army, lost count of how many deer its killed, best gun I ever owned I also have a 870 Wingmaster I purchased a month later that's never been fired
My only Model 700 is an M700 ADL model made in 1973, .30-06 cal., utterly stock configuration except for what looks to be an aftermarket recoil pad. I bought this rifle for cheap off the used rack in Prescott, AZ in 2006, and after cleaning and scope mounting, took it to the range for a test. I had loaded up some quick test rounds using Sierra 165 gr. Game King BTSP bullets - totally average stuff just to see if the rifle functioned and could hit the side of a barn (being a 40-year-old used rifle - who knows, right?). Over the course of shooting some 40 rounds at 100 yds. the rifle produced a 5-shot avg. of .80", and a 3-shot avg. of .411", with the best group of the day being a single-hole 3-shot group of .275". I was then, and after a number of additional trips to the range wherein the rifle performed the same as on that first outing, continue to be utterly dumbfounded that this old rifle can shoot this well. (Makes you wonder what the guy was smoking when he decided to trade it in, doesn´t it!?!) In any case, if this is anywhere near typical performance for early-vintage M700s, I´d have to say that Remington had it pretty much all figured out a LONG time ago. Consider that this rifle breaks ALL the current rules claimed by the gun press these days as must-have items for an accurate rifle. It has no pillar or glass-bedded action, the barrel is NOT free-floating, the trigger is nowhere near match-grade light (it breaks at 4 3/4 lbs,), the barrel contour is medium sporter, the caliber is not the currently chic 6 or 6.5mm with a short and fat case, and the list of its "failings" goes on and on. What more can you say? Remington, we sorely miss the craftsmanship you put into your products for more than 100 years. I wish we could somehow turn back time to 1962, when such fine work was at its peak in the gun industry. At least we still have Gunbroker!
Everyone should read your post. Used rifles can be amazing and my experience with hundreds over many years is similar to yours; although I must say - your 700 is astoundingly accurate - and many 700s are - I just don't hear about them so directly. Thanks for writing and take care.
PinkOld Freedom Group buys established brands and sucks every cent out of them short term and then gets rid of them. They’ve never made anything better that they’ve been involved with. It’s a disgusting disgrace what has happened to Marlin and Remington. All the priceless firearms in the Marlin museum went into those corporate assholes personal collections. It’s a crime what has happened to American firearm companies.
My experience is the same as yours. i bought a Rem 700 ADL in .270 Win in the late 1970s and it was similar in all respects to the 1971 model you showed. Both the wood and the metal were finished beautifully. The bolt was butter-smooth and finished with beautiful clockwork jeweling. And of course, it shot very well. in the early 2000s i won a Rem 700 XPS in .223 in a raffle at my gun club. This is the model with the odd triangular barrel. The stock was plastic with rubber inserts at the gripping points and the metal finish looked like it had been spattered on with a spray gun. Most striking was the bolt, though. It was similar to the SPS bolt you showed. The bolt face was the only polished surface on the bolt, and only the head of the bolt touched the receiver when the action was run. The main body of the bolt was thinned down for some reason and spattered with the same black stuff as the outside of the gun. It reminded me of a casting from some kind of Chinese import. However, it shot very well and the ugly stock was quite comfortable.
I've had a BDL DM since 97. Shoots great and action is smooth. I've never had an AD or trigger break unexpected but I've never stored it cocked. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for making this. I've found a couple of your videos now, and you seem to be the only one touching on some of these more esoteric comparisons and questions that I'm looking for, I guess everyone else is caught up in the newest tacticool speed shooter. Keep up the good work.
I have big game caliber rifles of all brands. The Rem700s I have are all fairly new and I must say I have had very good luck getting them to shoot tight groups. I pick the bullet I want to use and then try 3-4 different powders for group size. So far I can get one, if not two, to shoot 1'' and smaller groups. Everybody has their favorite brands. Other brands have shot equally well for me too. Just a matter of taking time to find what load any rifle likes. I agree with you and others that these big companies need to step up their quality and return to what put them on the map. Thanks for doing this video.
Thanks for writing : the words of an experienced shooter. I picked up a Remington 722 last week in .222 - took it to the range - accurate beyond compare after all the years. I thought I hit with one shot and missed the target with the rest.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I'm a big fan of the .222. If you don't mind me asking, what ammo were you using when you got that great group? I've had good luck with Federal ammo using the 40gr Ballistic tip. Thanks again
I once had an early 700 in 30-06. It was a fairly well finished gun, nicely fit and blued...It lacked the bolt anti-bind groove though and you could feel more of a clunky roughness when cycling it. Overall shot very well. The pressed checkering was a definite negative. Overall I much prefer the 80's 700's when cut checkering and the anti-bind groove.
Good info brother. I also have a few from different time frames and can say that the older rifles are of a higher quality. I also have a very nice model 600 that i have converted into a scout rifle.
I have three R700 BDLs - '73 (7mm Rem Mag), '87 (.243Win) and '05 (.30-06Spr) - and all left hand!. However, the order of quality of my rifles is '87, '05 and then '73. The '73 stands out with a very thin/lightweight floor plate - almost feels like plastic - and the checkering, though the most ornate of the three, is quite shallow. It however has the thickest profile barrel and the honeycomb recoil pad is as soft and pliable as new. The '87 stands out with the quality of its checkering and wood finish. All great rifles that will shoot for many more decades to come!
Hello Farmer - if only the new models were better, the older ADLs and BDLs wouldn't be in such high demand and prices might be lower. As it is, I see some older BDLs change hands for more than brand new rifles. Tells me something. I hope you find a BDL from the 80s or so.
I have 3 700's, one in .22-250, .30-06 and .300 WinMag. All are early 1990's vintage and I bet I have put 15,000 rounds through them and have NEVER once had an intentional discharge when chambering a round. All have the original bolt and trigger, though the trigger has been adjusted to 2.5 pounds on all three. I am guessing that the rifles that discharged inadvertently either had modifications done to them that were performed by someone who did not know what they were doing or the rifles were not properly maintained. The action on my 700's is super smooth as silk and the bolt glides and locks into place flawlessly,
My favorite rifle I've had many of them over the years but the one I have now I've had for at least 30 years and wouldn't take any amount of money for it , probably 90 percent of the game I've taken by gun has been took with it , my favorite rifle I own.
I appreciate your videos because you seem to have way more what I consider "hunting" rifles, not so much all this new "tactical" or "AR" stuff. Maybe I'm just getting old and out of fashion but I appreciate rifles like the Winchester model 70, Winchester models 71, 86, 94, 92, 95, etc, single shots like the 1885 high and low walls, or those fancy ones that you have from canada, can't think of the name now (getting old and feeble minded), or rifles like the ruger 77, mauser 98's, remington model 7 CDL's, you get the idea. Synthetic stocks are good and prefered for some rifles and uses, but you just can't beat a nice wood stock for a classic arm. Keep up the good work.
I have one of those Remington 700 sps in 308. And it's no Husqvarna or mauser that's for sure. The action is raw, and the finish is not all that refined. But it works, it's a daily driver if you will, and after shooting it frequently, the bolt will work smother. I use it in a magpul stock with a IR sight to night hunt boar, and in that configuration it's a heavy beast. Not my go to deer stalking rifle, but it gets the job done in the role i assigned for it.
I have a 700 made in 1997 with what was called DuraCoat on the finish the boat is very very slick and comes in the battery quite nicely. Overall very satisfied with this rifle completely black finish on the rifle.
I bought a 700 back in 67. I don't recall the cutout for the stripper clip, possibly because it was in .243. That was a super slick rifle & I had to sell it when I needed some funds. I tried to buy it back from the guy I bought it from, but he had gotten rid of it. I had a Lyman 48 receiver sight that is worth a lot of money today.
My Dad had a 1962 700 30/06. It was spectacularly beautiful. I loved shooting it. It was more accurate than my skills. I was 13 years old in '62. Unfortunately he traded it for a S&W Model 29 44 mag. a year later.
I purchased a used 700 ADL in 243 back in '63 (yeah, I'm an old anachronism ). It had a 20 inch barrel, as did all 700's of that early era. It also had a 308 length action. It was superbly accurate. I still have a 1 1/4 inch 200 yard group with the 100 grain Nosler partition bullet. Dupont 4350, now IMR, was my favorite powder and still is. I mounted one of the early Leupold 2x7 scopes on it. I've always regretted selling it.
I own a 1968 Remington 700 BDL in 30-06. The action is smooth as butter. It is basically in immaculate condition and I love the higher gloss finish! Also it really shoots nice and the iron sights is all you need as they are accurate!!
@@charlesmckinley29Yes, they the blueing is executed in excellence. Again, ai am amazed at the smoothness of the bolt action. The accuracy is something I have not seen in many newer firearms that claim to be very accurate.
I Own a Remington 700 which is Super Accurate with a Beautiful Wood Stock with a good Scope . I love to shoot it and Hopefully one day soon I get to take it on an Elk Hunt .
I remember seeing a 1962 Model 700 ADL in 7mm Remington Magnum at one of my local gun shops around 8 months ago. Not only was it cool to see one of the first Model 700 7mm magnums, but I also noted that it had a recoil pad on it as well. I found that to be odd and thought it was something added on by a previous owner. Later that same evening I looked up old Remington Catalogs online, and found that the Model 700 ADL in .264 Winchester Magnum and 7mm Remington Magnum came with factory installed recoil pads. Now, that was for a 1962 model so I looked up a 1967 catalog today and found that they still put recoil pads on ADL models in those two calibers. So, if your 1967 is of either caliber the recoil pad would likely be original. If it isn't then the recoil pad was an aftermarket job. Anyway, I hope that information helps to illuminate why your 1967 has a recoil pad and thank you for the neat video.
1967, lol. My grandfather bought a rem 700 chambered in 30-06 in 1967. I still have the receipt. I think it was $157 out the door. Not a lot now but back then that was a lot of money for my grandfather. Later he built a 700 in 264 win mag. My father still has both guns. They are family heirlooms, my dad actually got himself a 700 (sps I believe) for beating around in the woods. The 30-06 was the regular hunting rifle and the 264 was built for "shooting mountain top to mountain top" and that what it was used for in Flatwoods West Virginia. Very informative video, you have the tendency to make me reminisce. A side note: the safety on the 30-06 has malfunctioned 4 times. Please do not trust it. We are going to put another trigger group in it, if it ever goes in the woods. It caused the gun to go off at a hunting camp. My grandfather was accused of pulling the trigger. He said he put a m1 Garand blank in the gun sat in the yard and played with it all day unable to make it malfunction again. Second time his friend had it go bang at the shooting range. It happened 2 times after this. No one was ever harmed because my grandfather and his friends were/are safety conscious. But for anyone reading this never trust the factory safety, please.
Thanks Jake - I'll reiterate that point - which is a theme of my channel : never trust safeties. I just open the bolt - on everything except the modern bolts that are not cocked until the shooter does that - such as the R8
I sent my bdl 3006 LH to Remington for the newest recall in Oct. , just got it back with new trigger, no charge. My rifle went off once when pushing safety off, never trusted after that. I bought it new in 1978, 4 rounds one small hole at 100yds. Bench rest target shooter came over to ask me what I was shooting. HA! He was looking at my target. What a rifle. Can't wait for spring to see what it can do with new trigger.
My 2014 BDL black forearm cap fell off when the glue cracked in the cold...BUT! It is deadly accurate. Love the gun. Never had to use more then one shot to bring down a deer.
I got a Model 700 LSS (jeweled bolt). It certainly does not sound like the early model 700 you showed when opening the bolt. And my first thought was the steel sounds and looks like it is of a much better quality. I guess in order to produce affordable firearms gun makers have partaken in the race to the bottom. Frankly I would rather pay more for the quality of earlier days. One consolation is that my modern day 700 shoots very well(and looks beautiful).
great video man, gotta love these Remingtons...all that stuff on the news about the safety's was for more recent models I think around 2014. The bottom line is that the older models are just so well made it's almost stupid not to get one. Hoping to get one soon!!
No it’s not the newer rifles that had the safety issue it was the older ones. I have one and when it malfunctions the rifle goes boom as soon as you move the safety to the fire position. The only reason this happens is that the seat on the trigger gets out of position. My gun fell about 16’ from a deer stand and that’s when mine started acting up. Took it to a man that builds rifles on Remington actions and he readjusted the sear and all is good again.
@@westtexan2263 I have an older model 700, and I have tried everything to get it to fire - empty of course. It was certain years they had trigger problems , the x -pro trigger come to mind ,and they refused to fix them. I think you are right - people adjusted the sear too much , and caused the problems.It has a good, strong action and locks up tight.
Had two 721s , one in 270 and one in 30-06. Fine rifles and loved them both... don’t have either now .. long story. Stupid me , we’ll just leave it at that.
Good mention of the difference between Remington's actual feel from way back to present day. The old Remingtons just feel more solid and the bolts don't seem to rattle as much. I've never been a huge Remington guy but will say that their 40x 22lr models are usually great rifles. Too bad Remington dropped them from production.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns - Actually, Remington currently produces the 40x in many center fire calibers. Unfortunately, the 40x 22lr model has been dropped and I'd bet the underlying reason would be the Anschutz domination of the Olympic Games. Check out any of the pictures released by the US Olympic Team and you'll see only Anschutz on the stocks, various iterations of the 54 and now, the new 54.30 models... Anyway, Remington has kind of shifted their aim towards the lower $1,500-ish range with their 547 Target model. The 40x CF rifles being made today start with about a $2,500 beginning price and jumping up from there. The 22lr version though is absent from the choices, economics. When I was in high school in the late 70's, I shot on my JrROTC unit's rifle team and we used the Remington 40x. Four years of shooting free match grade ammo with a superbly accurate rifle - what a perfect dream experience. All of our 40x rifles had Redfield Olympic sights and the reddish-brown stocks with the full length stock track for accessories, and an adjustable rubber butt plate or aluminum hook for standing. We shot three positions - prone, kneeling, and standing. Gosh, that was fun... I even remember my rifle's serial number - 27975B. How's that for crazy? Sorry about the misinformation. I meant the 22lr version.
I have the 1st year of production…left hand 700 BDL..circa 1972… in 270….2 pickup truck loads of deer.later...and yesterday ..I shot groups that averaged 3/4 inch at 100meters…at the local gun range up here in Northern Michigan..
3/4 of an inch group is the best that I can do at 70…my eyes are not the best….I have varmint rifles in the 700 Remington..that we used for Priarie dog shoots in Montana..that…with custom reloaded ammo we make would group at 1/2 or less at 100 meters…223 and 22 250 rifles..
I have a model 700 in 270 I got I believe in 99/00 new as my first deer rifle, my dad got a browning a-bolt. I know it was when there was some defect and the did recalls but ours was returned and fixed before we even picked it up. synthetic stock with a black barrel. It was always great. Idk about quality compared to now but my dad actually likes my 700 better because it’s a little lighter.
The early model 700 triggers were regarded as excellent factory triggers by many. Some people fiddled with them and made them unsafe. That being said there was a design flaw as well. If debris came between a couple of the trigger components the gun could go off on closing of the bolt. The chance of it happening was small but a real possibility. Given so many 700s were produced the odds were enough that accidents did happen separate from the triggers that were fiddled with. Mike Walker recognized the problem and recomended Remington change the design at the cost of about 50 cents per rifle. Remington gambled by not improving the triggers and lost. There were serious accidents and Remington eventually had to change the trigger mechanism. If I had one of the older rifles I would not worry about it as I would not point the rifle in an unsafe direction. I no longer carry a round in the chamber unless I am sitting in one spot and know the rifle will not be pointed at anything or anyone. This is a good habit to be in with all rifle brands anyway. Thanks for the video.
Please change the trigger. Having a negligent discharge even when pointed in a safe direction is an unpleasant occurrence. It is easy and doesn’t have to break the bank. Yes, it happened to me and thankfully no one was hurt.
I’m a tattoo artist in Montana and frequent the Mountains and hunt regularly. For a tattoo I was paid with a 67’ Remington 700 7MM. REM. MAG. #26644. The tattoo itself would typically cost around $80. I know it’s a steal and although I’ll never let it go, what is the value today? I also own a Ruger rem mag 7mm (my first rifle) 👍🏽 awesome and very informative video!
Hi Lexx - Glad you're on the channel - welcome. A nice 700 of that fine vintage would be about $800. Very good customer. He probably wanted to be able to say he has an $800. tattoo. All the best to you. : )
I purchased my wood and steel adl model 700 when i was 19 new i am 38 now and have never felt a trigger that good it breaks like glass it has aboug 8 notches on it all mule deer a 270 win my prize posession love it.
Had a Ruger American in .308 because it was such a good price and it was okay. But after a couple years, I had to trade it in for a Remington 700 (also in .308) and with the trade-in they gave me, I only had to cough up about $300, including tax. It's so worth it. I should have spent the little extra right from the jump. The bolt is so much smoother, and I know it will smooth out even more after a few hundred rounds or so. The trigger is noticeably smoother as well. Even though the pull weight feels about the same, the break is so much nicer. It was only a few hundred more, but you can feel the difference before you even shoot it.
Hi Carl - You bought one of the best - a 700 is a proven performer - an ultra reliable and well designed machine, a classic and reliable hunter with good looks and in great calibers. A 700 in .308 and one never looks back. Thanks for the note and good shooting.
There is a old documentary here on UA-cam that shows the Remington. Production line of about 1970. It’s informative and entertaining, slightly. They sure was amazed by the “space age “( computer tabulating Machine) seemed to not have a true purpose as the production line proceeded it . They talk about it very enthusiastically. Good rifles, all of them I have shot needed no modifications to shoot accurately with.
I know Remington has been having QC issues for the last couple of years or so and If I am not mistaken filed for bankruptcy. Remington 700's are good rifles but since their qc is spotty I was hesitant on buying one new. My first rifle I bought was a 700 bdl back in 99 it was in 30-06 it was a tack driver. It shot groups that were 1/2" constantly no matter what you fed it. I kick myself in the rear for selling it. When Remington gets their act back together and their QC up to standards I'll gladly buy another one. I'd like to get a Remington model 7 in 7mm-08 for a woods rifle. I did buy a Winchester model 70 extreme weather SS in 7mm Rem mag. It's a 1 moa gun so far. I almost bought a 700 Sendero I read a lot of reviews and people were sending them back and having issues with them. Accuracy was substandard in their 700 long range it was reported that people were getting 3"-4" groups out of them from the reviews I've read. I don't know what their deal is.
I've sold a few rifles that I shake my head over. So stupid of me - but there it is. I think it is safe to say : Remington is back - they restructured and have the means, the know how and the intention to establish new levels of quality and innovation.
I believe the 721/722 came out first. They were plain stock, 2 position safeties, short/long action. The 725 had a fancy checkered stock, with a cheek comb, and a 3 position safety--I have one, it's beautiful. I think it was meant to compete with the model 70. Any of the previously mentioned have a feel, and history you can't appreciate until you've held one.
Hi Matt, the finish is of the type used on the Remington 700 line of Police Tactical rifles in .308 Win and .300 win mag that came out in the mid 90's. It is the same or similar to the Special Purpose finish on the 870 shotgun line. As for.the rear receiver bridge cutout, you are correct. It is for stripper clips. If memory serves me correctly this was a holdover from the 721 line and was dropped after a few years of 700 production. Although it stayed on the 40X lineup . This was only used on rifles chambered for .308 win/ 7.62 × 54mm NATO and .30 - 06 Springfield. What you are omitting about the bolts is very important. I can't speak of the type of steel and if it changed, but as far as I know they are all engine turned with a brazed on bolt handle, not investment cast. At least up to the last one I got. But the important issue is this, sometime in the early 90's Remington made a major change to the 700's bolt and receiver design. One which outside of hunti g the big 5 seemed unnecessary to me and changed the sickness of bolt operation. A rail was added to the length of the left side receiver raceway and a slot cut into the left locking lug of the bolts head. This was a bolt anti bind device. And in theory was a great idea that would eliminate feeding problems and binding issues when chambering a round. In my experience it did little to correct either. Some polishing and Lubraplate grease would be a more efficient solution. It is obvious when comparatively operating a pre and post implementation of the anti bind device that their is a very noticeable difference in slickness and smoothness of bolt operation. It is much nicer feeling without the anti bind device. And I prefer 700's without it. From my own 1968 7mm mag ADL, 1975 BDL .270, 1991 .308 Varmint, 1992 Police Tactical. 308 and 1995 Varmint stainless synthetic .223, only the last two have the anti bind feature and are the least comfortable to operate. I also don't care for the triggers on these as they come from the factory. I should also mention that in the late 90's I was given a tour of the Remington factory by the head of the custom shop. I took particular notice of custom shop and regular production of the model 700 and 7. And at no point that I can recall was any investment casting used on these rifles, some aluminum, but no MIM or casting. Another fine effort Matt, love to see them. Stay safe
Very informative! Thanks for taking the time to write. I didn't realize the significance of the change to the action. Another improvement that worked out...the other way.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns very true, and let's not forget gun manufacturers that ruin guns by bowing to political pressure, or the possibility of media or legal pressure. Remington did it with their trigger, S&W with the "new style" cylinder release and the keyed internal safety lock and other unnecessary items to prevent us from hurting ourselves ! Think back to a time when many guns didn't even have safeties because shooters were supposed to know their guns and be responsible with them. Consider that most all double rifles never had them. A detriment to hunting cape buffalo, elephant, lion etc. that may be on you in a blink of an eye. Certainly faster than you could pull the trigger, go ooops, and take the safety off and fire. But I doubt you would be saying ooops!
Hi Thomas - He made a classic purchase. The early 700 and 7mm Rem. Mag. were in high demand and the cartridge and rifle were sort of perfect together. The 7 is still one of the best magnums - it is just taken for granted now - but remains one of the best ever.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I remember when he bought it. Back them you didn't have to go through a dealer but he got it though a guy who had a gunsmithing business. I remember he paid $169.00 for it. It has a stainless steel barrel on it that Remington had to coat with some kind of electrocoating process to get a blue on it, the bluing doesn't stay on very well. I heard they didn't make very many stainless barrels that way. But it's extremely accurate. It was his only hunting rifle for deer and elk he used, and he took many of them over the years. He called it "Maggy" and we still have it today. Dad quit hunting years ago but he's still with us at least for now. We use to shoot across canyons at rocks on the other side with it just to see if we could hit the same spot again over and over. He also would shoot grouse with it and it was so accurate he would aim for the neck to avoid exploding it. One time the bullet came so close to the neck that it broke the grouses neck but didn't actually hit the neck. It must have been the shockwave of the bullet as we couldn't find where the bullet actually hit it. Oh the memories.
" I actually forgot I had this rifle" you are amazing. I love your videos. Extremely informative and to the point. In recomend your videos to many of my gun friends. Your deserve far more subscribers then what youn have. That will change in time I anticipate. Please keep doing what you do best! Thank you
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Remington 700 BDL precision .222 circa late 80s early 90s. Monte Carlo stock. A Mike Walker bench shooting rifle. It now sports a high powered scope (something like 6-24x44mm) not in these photos. The photos only show a little 3-9x32mm. storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/949785/20170110/b_174651.jpg storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/949785/20170110/b_174648.jpg storage04.dropshots.com/photos7000/photos/949785/20170110/b_174655.jpg
If the average guy or gal was looking for a nice, accurate deer rifle, its hard to argue with a new 700adl. Coming in under 400$, its a very affordable rifle. The addition of a timney trigger and some decent glass puts the total costs about 7-8 for a accurate, proven rifle. It wont win in looks dept, but it will outshoot mosts hands holding it and is still a 700 made in Ilion Ny. Just my .02.
I put a scope on my daughter-in-law’s Christensen Arms rifle today. It has a carbon fiber wrapped barrel and weighs nothing. She’s a small gal and this suits her well. It’s a .300 Win and the muzzle brake works excellently.
Nice rifles Sir, I have always liked the looks of a Remington Model 7 especially with a laminated stock. I was the 101st like on this video, I was trying to cancel the one down vote so You would have 100. God Bless You Sir, and thank You for making these excellent detailed videos.
Hi Rick, In case I have not mentioned this already : you were one of my first subscribers and supporters. When my tremor was at its worst I could scarcely hold a cartridge or magazine - even if no one knew. At that time, the doctors were telling me...Parkinsons. You were always supportive and positive. Sometimes before filming I had no idea how I could convey what I wanted to share and handle all the firearms and do a decent job - your belief in me made a huge difference. Now things are better...thank you. Back to the guns : ) - the Model 7 with the laminated stock is really special - a friend of mine in Houston bought one from the custom shop : has favorite. Thanks for everything Rick. God bless you. Mike
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Mike, that means a lot to Me. I am glad You are doing better. I really enjoy Your hard work and effort that You put into You're videos, always interesting, very detailed and I always learn something when I watch Your videos. You're channel is very special to Me.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns not at all, it's a lot harder where I live get a firearms license and I'm one of their fortunate few to have a pistol and a rifle and looking at getting another one soon
When ..I buy a used LH Remington 700…I only buy the early years… easy to tell… the stock has a brass pin on the side of the stock..in front of the trigger guard area of the stock…later 700s ..had a black dowel or pin in their gun stocks….another give away..the white line spacers in the early BDL stocks had a yellow color to them from the finish…between the front black fore arm tip..newer ones are pure white in color…Pretty easy to age these rifles …if you study the stocks..
I have a 1964 222, a 1974 222 and a1985 222 all adl's I load for each separately, the 3 shoot .2-.3's all three are different in how I load them. I just use the 1985 gun now, have several more. Love them, but I buy the oldest ones I can find
If your left-hand 700 was really made in 1971 then the stock has been changed. Remington used impressed checkering on the 700 until 1974. They also added an anti-bind groove in the bolt head similar to the one Winchester added to the post-64 model 70. That may be why some actions are smoother than others.
Hey, I've come across your channel a couple different times recently and I like your vids. I just won an auction for a 1967 700 BDL off Gun Broker and I'm psyched. It looks to be in amazing condition. I keep hearing about the 700 having accidental discharges. Anyone that can comment on that? I'm not sure what to believe.
A friend that I shoot with regularly has two black stocked model 700's and they were not expensive to buy. The bolts are not as smooth as my Winchester M70 but they work. His 270 is very accurate even though it feels a bit cheap.
The cutout on the receiver bridge on the early 700s was a holdover from the 721/722 rifles, a lot of the components on the early 700s were leftovers from earlier production. The purpose isn't well known, but from owning several, I can tell you they won't accept a stripper clip. My guess was to allow for easier loading of longer cartridges, since the 721 action was used primarily for .30-06 length cartridges, but was also chambered in .300 H&H, which is a true magnum length cartridge. Same with the 722, which was designed around .300 Savage length cartridges but also chambered in slightly longer cartridges like the .244 Remington and .257 Roberts. Just my best guess.
Hey bud. Hope alls well, had my rem 700 out couple days ago, my 270 cal BDL deluxe, 1962 yr, still shot MOA with an old tasco 3x9x40 " TV view " scope. With my handload. 150gr hornady RN the steel butplate def lets you know something went down range, great old guns
It's amazing how a fine rifle lasts and lasts; those 700s remain among the best; and I like those TV view scopes - something different and Tasco scopes are a great value. Thanks for the note.
The reason the 1967 M700 feels different than the newer M700's is Remington added the anti-bind feature in the early 70's. Pull the bolt and look at the right side locking lug, the right lug on later M700's ride on a slot milled into the receiver. The anti bind feature is probably the most important change Remington did to the M700. Current production M700's are generally quite accurate.
The slot on the receiver is a clearance. Not really for a stripper clip but for a finger. The Remington 721 and 700 long action have a reloaders preferred 3.6" magazine box. The magazine extends far behind the rear of the receiver. Obviously discontinued because not really necessary. Although a stripper clip "works" it's not all that usful as the capacity is 4 rounds and not 5.
The 1962 model I see maintains much of it's Remington model 721 heritage. Interesting! I know what you mean by the feel. I have a 700 Sendero that's a tack driver but my 721's action feels way smoother and precise.
I like that Sandero - good one to have; and the 721 - so slick; I wonder why they ran differently from the 700 - they seem nearly identical; maybe something in the steel.
One big thing of note is that all the 60s model magnums all had stainless steel barrels. This ended for the most part in the early 70s. The first year the barrels were not marked stainless. The barrels looked like regular bluing, but they were copper plated I believe than a blue put over it. The stainless magnums are extremely accurate.
I have a few 700 with the stupid safety locks on three or four of the bolts around 99’/00’ I need to remove. I have a 67' 600 model. They need to start making them again.
Those were perfect; the .243 doesn't need a longer barrel as you know. People look for the originals. Some have their BDLs cut down - but the front sight is lost or has to be re-drilled etc...
My old man has a model 700 bdl 6.5 rem mag Nd I just yesterday picked up a steal of a deal a 2506 700 bdl for next to nothing love the looks of the model 700
Great video! I think it’s a shame to see so many manufacturers cheapening their products. I am curious though, how a current production Remington 700 BDL stacks up? After handling different current M700 versions, I found the BDL, and CDL are leaps and bounds better than the SPS and ADL versions. I’m really curious what you think? Thank you again for your excellent videos! Keep up the good work!
Thank you Joe's O.F. For sure you are right - the BDL and CDL are much nicer than the lesser models. the older 700s used different manufacturing processes and raw materials. The steel in the new ones is different and differently made. I don't know the details but the result is that the older 700s "feel" much higher quality. I suspect performance is about the same and the new triggers are probably better so it is gains and losses as usual. I still buy the earlier models - given the choice. Hope this helps. and thanks for writing.
Same here. I couldn't put my money down for the cheaper models...for me it was worth it paying a little extra for decent bluing and walnut. I went with the BDL - I like the CDL better but wanted a 22" barrel.
Buy an older 700 and a Trigger Tech trigger and you will be money and quality ahead. I did have the safety malfunction but there are a ton of good quality replacement triggers.
Man I really enjoy your vids and have learned a lot from watching them. What is your thoughts on the Remington sportsman 78? I just purchased one and it is a very nice shooting rifle. I did put a nice Boyd’s stock on it cause I did not like the plain birch one that came with it
Hi Ricky, Thanks for the good words. Your Sportsman 78 is excellent - I call it an uncluttered 700. I even like the original stock; reminds me a bit of the 721. Great buy and you'll find it an accurate and reliable rifle.
I have one LH Remington 700 in 30-06 (Made in late 70s). I noticed that there are two tiny screws on the right rear side of the receiver exact the same as the LH one in your video. However the latest model of R700s don't have those. Do you happen to know what's purpose of these two screws? Thanks,
I know exactly what you are saying, I recently purchased a model 700 ADL synthetic stock in a 243 built in 2008. I've owned several Remington 700 over the years in the fit and finish and quality of the steel in this firearm is not up to par with what Remington produced in the in the earlier rifles say pre-1995. It's no wonder with the quality of rifle such as this one that Remington went into the financial state that it did sad to say
Hopefully you or someone will see this comment and point me in the right direction, but I recently inherited a 1969 manufactured 700 in .30-06 from my late grandfather who bought it on his return from Vietnam. The rifle is functionally perfect, but it's missing the rear sight components and I would like to get it assembled back to factory specs. Do you know of anyone who would carry the original/vintage parts? The ramp is intact, but it's missing everything else. Thanks!
Hello - Try here www.gunpartscorp.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=remington+700+sights You're not missing much if you have the ramp - you only need the slide which goes on the ramp and the cross piece that is dovetailed into the slide - and 2 small screws: one for locking the slide on the ramp and the other for setting windage. These parts are quite common at gun shows or if you call a local gun shop. Many people take off their Remington sights - especially the rear sight - so the front bell of their telescopic sight doesn't hit the rear sight. Hope this helps and best of luck.
Hello watching your videos on a rainy Saturday. ..I just traded for a 700 bel deluxe in .270...not sure if I'll keep it or not...but I'm sure it's serviceable as a deer rifle. ..and then some...I do prefer the mod 70....odd thing ...I always hunt with my old 94 winchester. ..lol...again...I enjoy your videos and appreciate your knowledge. .and gained the information you share
I'm like you J wish - could hunt with a 700 or 70 - or others - but quite often find myself reaching for the 94 or a Marlin - just seems right a lot of the time.
On my 16th Birthday, my Father took me to Sears/Robuck in Livonia, Michigan to purchase my first rifle. I had been doing some research using the Shooters Bible for a couple of years
prior to that eventful day and was very interested in the 7mm Remington Magnum Cartridge, that was introduced in 1962. Once we found the sporting goods area in the store, an older man was
standing behind the counter directly in front of the rifles on display eager to assist us. My father struck up a conversation about rifles and the 30-06 cartridge with him. Both of them were WWII U.S.
Army Combat E.T.O. Veterans. "So....What can I help you with today?" My father replied, "He needs a hunting rifle for his 16th Birthday." I looked at him and said, "Sir, a nice bolt action was what I had
in mind.....maybe a Remington 700!" "Good choice son!" Was his reply. "What caliber?" My Father quickly answered for me......"Got any in 30-06?" "Sure do!" "I got two Remington 700 ADL's in bolt action that came in yesterday." He turned and reached for a rifle that was gleaming in the light of the presentation rack. I noticed that there was a gunsmith pad on the counter and he laid the rifle
down on the pad for me to inspect. My father picked it up and was thoroughly giving it a quick go over and inspection. My father said.... "Yep!" "30-06 is what you need!" Then the salesman asked me,
"Son, what do you plan on hunting with your new rifle?" I replied, "White Tail, Mule Deer, Antelope, Elk, Moose............and maybe more!" He laughed and said to my father as he took two green & white
boxes of ammo out from under the counter and opened them and said......."Here is a 30-06 in 180 grain and here is a newer caliber that Remington came out with a couple years ago." It's called a
7mm Remington Magnum!" "It will reach out and touch..... over a quarter of a mile away and hit very hard!" "You could kill anything in North America with it!" He put the two cartridges next to each other on the counter. My father picked them both up and eyeballed the difference in their shell casing size. Dad said....."That's a big shell compared to the 30-06!" "Yep!" "And the F.P.S. is over 3,000!"
I smiled and said....."That's the one for me!" He then replaced the 30-06 ADL back into the display rack and said to us, "Give me a minute and I'll be right back!" While he was gone I was looking at the scopes that were in the display case directly in front of us. I had done some homework on my preferred scope for my new rifle and was starring at a Leupold 3-9 / 50mm optic V-II. The price on the
tag was $103.00 dollars. I had saved up some paperboy money and bottle money for a few years and had $130.00 cash in my pocket. My father had no idea. Out from around the corner came the
salesman with a Green & White Remington box. "I have not had the chance to open it yet and inspect it!" I noticed that on the end of the box was printed Remington 7mm Magnum ADL. He pulled the
rifle out of the box and protective wrapping it was in and did a quick inspection of the brand new rifle. He then handed it directly to me with a big smile on his face and said, "Happy Birthday Son!" As I held it in my young hands I knew then, that all of my dreams of owning my own hunting rifle were going to be real that November 6, 1966. My father paid $99.00 dollars for the rifle with a WWII Veteran discount being offered from Sears/Robuck. I purchased the Leupold scope and a box of Remington 175 Grain Core Lockt Ammunition. That was the beginning of my gun ownership and years of blessed days and nights spent with my Father and Brother's in the out of doors, hunting and enjoying the bounties of nature. I was proud to help provide food for our family of nine. Today I still have that Rifle. It has a 24 inch Stainless Steel Barrel and is blued in a dull black matted finish that I had done back in 1976. The original dark bluing was wearing off. There is no rust anywhere on the rifle, no pitting as well. It has a beautiful Monte Carlo American Walnut Checkered Stock with an original Remington Recoil crossed ribbed vented recoil pad. I have never had any issue with the
trigger sear or a faulty unexpected discharge. I have a friend who is a gunsmith and he lightly jeweled the original bolt for me, back in 1976. The Rifle is now 54 years old and looks just as fine as it did the day my Father and Mother purchased it for me on my 16th Birthday. I also purchased a men's shaving brush that day at Sears/Robuck and still have that as a tool for wiping a light coat of gun oil on all of my rifles after handling them. I will be 70 this year and a good friend and I will be hunting Antelope in Wyoming this coming September. I have not been hunting in Wyoming since October of 1977. The same Leupold Scope that I purchased in 1966 is still mounted on the 700 ADL. The matching of the two fine American Craftsmanship Legends, has been deadly accurate and my 700 ADL Remington Rifle, has always shot and performed shooting....."Rope straight!" Even at over 500 yards. And that my friends, is my story. The freedom to hunt and provide food for your family, as well as being blessed with our time spent out in God's Country, where ever your freedom of choice takes you in your life, is one of our liberties as Americans. Thanks for taking the time to read a bit of my history as a proud American who grew up in different times and is still enjoying getting old. I pray that you have a very blessed life. Sincerely, Dave G.
i was 3 when you got yours . i was born nov. 6 1963 . i got mine in 1987 . 700 bdl in 30-06 . worked a lot of overtime to get it . cost $450.00 then . still looks like new . and the only change was to a mcmillan fiberglass stock back in 97 . and i took the jeweling off of my bolt . and also never had any issue with my trigger . had mine set to 3# in 1990 . got mine in kalamazoo mi . i know the store you got yours in . i grew up in warren mi .
@@ron4hunting Ron your story and David's is informative of relationships of trust fathers years ago had.
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Inflation is real.
Ron I was just born when you got yours. I too was 16 when I got my own Remington 700 in 25-06. I believe it was in the year 2003. Still have it, and I'm in the process of re-barreling it as I have shot the barrel out. It'll still be a 25-06 though.
Dave, I am same age as you and a closely related story- I got a Parker Hale in.308 - still got it and it still cloverleafs three shots at 100 metres. It is my go-to rifle and will be going to one of my sons. I hope there is meat around for the table when they get to use it. God Bless.
I bought a 962 model 700 in 264 Win Mag. Smoothest bolt and great trigger. 5 star! Ser no. 4 digits, 1***.
I have a 700BDL out of the custom shop in 7mm Rem Mag. I paid over $500 for it back in the late 80's early 90's. What a beautiful rifle it is all hand engraved and checkered! It is a tac driver. When I first seen that rifle I knew I had to have it. I didn't have the money for it at the time so I put it on lay away and slowly paid it off over the next several months. Now I have done well enough I can buy any rifle I want but that 700 BDL is my go to when long distance is the next best thing to being there!
"I'm not an expert." Oh, you're an expert! Thanks for the reviews. I have two new production 700s. A stainless steel 5R in .308 and a BDL in .270 Win. I love them both. Great guns.
Thank you! I saw a 5R put 10 .308 bullets - I think they were Berger - into a group that a dime covered at 200 yards; scope was a Night Force and the shooter was in some kind of law enforcement - was vague about it. Even he was surprises. Great shooter though!
I believe it. I saw my dad put 3 rds of 7mm mag into a 2.75 inch group at a ranged 722 yards. He has a seekins havoc with a night force on it. He's on his second barrel with it, that he had custom made and hand fitted. It'll shoot a dime in his hands no problem at 200 yards. He shoots a 184gr Berger.@@UnitedStatesOfGuns
I have a 1975 700 BDL in 7mm Magnum. An absolute tack driver. It was well used by whoever had it before me. The stock has a very amateur refinish job and I would say bluing is about 60 %. It was a gun show buy for 450.00. Came with a Bushnell 4X38 scope that looks as old as the rifle. I thought that was a little on the high side but I just loved the feel and the smooth action. Barrel looked great . Rifling is deep and clean. Couldn't be happier.
I'd have bought that BDL too. The steel runs slick in those years and the bluing can be touched up. At least there is/was bluing. Great buy
Just have the gun reblued and re finish the stock ! You can not find that kind of accuracy. Every day are the smoothness of the action you got a real treasure, just refinished the stock and blue it 😊
I've been shooting Rem 700 in .270 since i was big enough to keep it from punching me in the face. My model 700 is older than i am and it's one of the most accurate rifles I've ever fired.
I realize it's late gettin in this discussion, but my dad awarded/gave me a Model 700/270Win, for my 13th birthday. That was 1974, so I gather my rifle is vintage and may have originated from Remington's custom shop as my Uncle had a gun shop in Corpus Christi, Texas. Any thoughts?
Im 42 and mine was made in 75, 270 bdl. Love it bought it second hand in the mid 90’s. I believe it was $399 With a redfield wide view scope. It’s put a lot of deer in the freezer. Even a couple on the wall.
@@tommuttera3730, yup, a thought here... 13 years old? Isn't the model 700's first production year 1962?
I bought my 270 in the seventies as well. It would shoot a 3/8 inch group at 100 yards with my hand loads. Very accurate out of the box gun!
Please elaborate,@@spiceolife
I enjoyed this video! Thank you, I have an old 700 CDL, BDL, the higher grade for finish? It's Perfect, Really, it has the old style rear sight and serial #276,254. On the barrel in front of the receiver is stamped, 64. No letter codes anywhere. It's got the old style, possibly original, Bushnell 3x9 scope, also perfect, and leather sling. I feel it's a time capsule cause it's original and perfect. I got it from an elderly gentleman who was trying to sell it at a gun shop that only deals with new guns, they said no, so I met him at his car and bought it for $300 with 13 boxes of ammo! That's the price he set so I jumped. Turns out he knew my dad back in those days when they were both deer hunting. He said that he may have 400 rounds through the gun in it's life. As much as I appreciate newer technology, I am true to the older classics.
BTW- it's chambered in .308,
My dad bought his ADL 30-06 at JM Fields back in the mid 70s, my brother still has it. Thta rifle has taken so many deer it is redicuous. I love that rifle, it taught me and my brother how to shoot and it will keep on for generations.
Thanks for the Remington 700 presentation. You are definitely correct about these rifles retaining their value. I purchased a 700 BDL Deluxe in 1999 and sold it for the same amount as the original purchase. That said, in retrospect, I shouldn't have sold it but doing so gave me other options I can't complain about. The BDL is the finest rifle I've owned with the possible exception of my Model 70 purchased in the mid 1960s.
I was told my 1985 700 BDL 30-06 is a valuable "classic", my 1992 700 Mountain Rifle, 7mm-08, Walnut stock, blued barrel is also quite valuable now. Just bought a 783 Walnut Edition in 7mm Rem Mag...Sweet shooter for a newer model, reminds me of the early 700 ADL's in looks. The last gasp of Remington...
I’ve got a 1964 bdl 270. It’s a mountain rifle, so it’s light weights and small. I got it from my dad, who got it from his dad. It’s the best hunting gun I’ve ever had and I wouldn’t trade it for the world
Purchased a 700BDL 300 WM in 1977. Reload for it and have never regreted the purchase.
You bought well - but you know that!
I've got an old 700 BDL in .243 that was gifted to me. I looked it up a while back and can't remember the exact year, but I think I determined it to be from sometime in the 70's. It is indeed a fine rifle, and in great shape.
I have an ADL .243 that was my "Santa Claus" Christmas gift in 1973. I was 16. I didn't hit everything I ever shot at but everything I ever hit with it, was taken home. Seems like it was under $200 new but it is priceless now. I just ordered a 700 in a PCR .260. I'll come back and let everyone know if me and a new 700 can still shoot. :-) A lot of enjoyable history with this video. :-) :-) :-)
I talked a friend of mine into buying a 700 BDL in 243 back in 1990...He still has it! He was a small guy and didn't like shooting my 30-06, amazing rifles! I've had numerous Weatherby's and Sako's, none have been more accurate than my 700's.
I have a 700 bdl 30-06, my dad gave it to me for Christmas when I was 15 or 16 in honor of my first whitetail harvest! I'm 30 now and still have it, don't shot it much but I clean it at least once a year even if it lives in a safe! Don't keep you gun in operational condition the only thing thats gonna get killed is you lol
I have a 66 Remington 700 222 from the Remington custom shop with a 24 inch barrel . Been in the family for over 50 years. Absolutely mint condition. Dad bought it because a man who ordered it had to back out. I have an old Luepold 3.5-10 on it. I shot 50 rounds yesterday. Still an awesome piece of history.
That is a diamond Doug. Hope it shot to one hole - as they all seem to do.
I purchased a Remington 700 CDL in 270 Win. Purchased it back in 2004. LOVE ❤️ my 700.
I have a 700 adl in 270 win that was made in 1963 and it looks exactly the same as your 67 except mine has an aluminum butt plate. It's a super accurate rifle. I believe that is a cutout for stripper clips. I have a 1948 721 in 30/06 that has the same cutout. And my 721 in 270 win made in 1953 doesn't have the cutout. Not sure why they went back to the cutout in the first years of the 700. But yes the earlier ones definitely feel smoother and just better quality. I do have a Remington 673 in 350 rem mag that they built on the model 7 action that is also super smooth and made very well. It was made in 2003. Maybe I just got a good one? But i never had a Remington that didn't shoot, even the 760 pumps shoot great.
My experience as well Jason - they all shoot; can't argue with that.
I'm a recent subscriber but I always learn something from your videos. I work at Remington and am a big fan of the rifles but there is a difference in the finish of the older rifles. Keep up the good work.
Bought my 700 bdl in 30 - 06 in 1986 in Darmstadt Germany while in the army, lost count of how many deer its killed, best gun I ever owned I also have a 870 Wingmaster I purchased a month later that's never been fired
My only Model 700 is an M700 ADL model made in 1973, .30-06 cal., utterly stock configuration except for what looks to be an aftermarket recoil pad. I bought this rifle for cheap off the used rack in Prescott, AZ in 2006, and after cleaning and scope mounting, took it to the range for a test. I had loaded up some quick test rounds using Sierra 165 gr. Game King BTSP bullets - totally average stuff just to see if the rifle functioned and could hit the side of a barn (being a 40-year-old used rifle - who knows, right?). Over the course of shooting some 40 rounds at 100 yds. the rifle produced a 5-shot avg. of .80", and a 3-shot avg. of .411", with the best group of the day being a single-hole 3-shot group of .275". I was then, and after a number of additional trips to the range wherein the rifle performed the same as on that first outing, continue to be utterly dumbfounded that this old rifle can shoot this well. (Makes you wonder what the guy was smoking when he decided to trade it in, doesn´t it!?!)
In any case, if this is anywhere near typical performance for early-vintage M700s, I´d have to say that Remington had it pretty much all figured out a LONG time ago. Consider that this rifle breaks ALL the current rules claimed by the gun press these days as must-have items for an accurate rifle. It has no pillar or glass-bedded action, the barrel is NOT free-floating, the trigger is nowhere near match-grade light (it breaks at 4 3/4 lbs,), the barrel contour is medium sporter, the caliber is not the currently chic 6 or 6.5mm with a short and fat case, and the list of its "failings" goes on and on.
What more can you say? Remington, we sorely miss the craftsmanship you put into your products for more than 100 years. I wish we could somehow turn back time to 1962, when such fine work was at its peak in the gun industry. At least we still have Gunbroker!
Everyone should read your post. Used rifles can be amazing and my experience with hundreds over many years is similar to yours; although I must say - your 700 is astoundingly accurate - and many 700s are - I just don't hear about them so directly. Thanks for writing and take care.
When DuPont still owned Remington, the quality was excellent.
Freedom Group appears to be little more than a corporate chop shop.
Yes sir you are correct the new stuff is just hack job crap
PinkOld Freedom Group buys established brands and sucks every cent out of them short term and then gets rid of them. They’ve never made anything better that they’ve been involved with. It’s a disgusting disgrace what has happened to Marlin and Remington. All the priceless firearms in the Marlin museum went into those corporate assholes personal collections. It’s a crime what has happened to American firearm companies.
Ruger Recently bought Marlin and has said to keep it Marlin so hopefully it works out. 🤞🏼
@@jgcoupe6808 Heard that.
It would be nice to see Marlin reach their quality level of glory that they had in the 1980s.
Def gone down hill over the years
Just picked up a 6 digit serial numbered 6mm remington. Beautiful and shoots great. Have a 2000 243 as well and an 80's model 270. Great rifles all!
That 6mm is a gem; for those who know - and in that vintage of 700 : ideal. Good on you!
I just picked up a 18 inch bdl in 6mm remington today
My experience is the same as yours. i bought a Rem 700 ADL in .270 Win in the late 1970s and it was similar in all respects to the 1971 model you showed. Both the wood and the metal were finished beautifully. The bolt was butter-smooth and finished with beautiful clockwork jeweling. And of course, it shot very well. in the early 2000s i won a Rem 700 XPS in .223 in a raffle at my gun club. This is the model with the odd triangular barrel. The stock was plastic with rubber inserts at the gripping points and the metal finish looked like it had been spattered on with a spray gun. Most striking was the bolt, though. It was similar to the SPS bolt you showed. The bolt face was the only polished surface on the bolt, and only the head of the bolt touched the receiver when the action was run. The main body of the bolt was thinned down for some reason and spattered with the same black stuff as the outside of the gun. It reminded me of a casting from some kind of Chinese import. However, it shot very well and the ugly stock was quite comfortable.
I've had a BDL DM since 97. Shoots great and action is smooth. I've never had an AD or trigger break unexpected but I've never stored it cocked. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for making this. I've found a couple of your videos now, and you seem to be the only one touching on some of these more esoteric comparisons and questions that I'm looking for, I guess everyone else is caught up in the newest tacticool speed shooter. Keep up the good work.
Thank you! I try.
I have big game caliber rifles of all brands. The Rem700s I have are all fairly new and I must say I have had very good luck getting them to shoot tight groups. I pick the bullet I want to use and then try 3-4 different powders for group size. So far I can get one, if not two, to shoot 1'' and smaller groups. Everybody has their favorite brands. Other brands have shot equally well for me too. Just a matter of taking time to find what load any rifle likes. I agree with you and others that these big companies need to step up their quality and return to what put them on the map. Thanks for doing this video.
Thanks for writing : the words of an experienced shooter. I picked up a Remington 722 last week in .222 - took it to the range - accurate beyond compare after all the years. I thought I hit with one shot and missed the target with the rest.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I'm a big fan of the .222. If you don't mind me asking, what ammo were you using when you got that great group? I've had good luck with Federal ammo using the 40gr Ballistic tip. Thanks again
I once had an early 700 in 30-06. It was a fairly well finished gun, nicely fit and blued...It lacked the bolt anti-bind groove though and you could feel more of a clunky roughness when cycling it. Overall shot very well. The pressed checkering was a definite negative. Overall I much prefer the 80's 700's when cut checkering and the anti-bind groove.
Good info brother. I also have a few from different time frames and can say that the older rifles are of a higher quality. I also have a very nice model 600 that i have converted into a scout rifle.
Question about the Model 600, is it a M 600 or the M 600 Mohawk? And how did you get the scope mounted?
I have three R700 BDLs - '73 (7mm Rem Mag), '87 (.243Win) and '05 (.30-06Spr) - and all left hand!. However, the order of quality of my rifles is '87, '05 and then '73. The '73 stands out with a very thin/lightweight floor plate - almost feels like plastic - and the checkering, though the most ornate of the three, is quite shallow. It however has the thickest profile barrel and the honeycomb recoil pad is as soft and pliable as new. The '87 stands out with the quality of its checkering and wood finish. All great rifles that will shoot for many more decades to come!
We have very similar taste in firearms. This is one of my favorite deer rifles.
Im such a sucker for old adl/bdl's i wish i had a collection of them like yours 👍👍
Hello Farmer - if only the new models were better, the older ADLs and BDLs wouldn't be in such high demand and prices might be lower. As it is, I see some older BDLs change hands for more than brand new rifles. Tells me something. I hope you find a BDL from the 80s or so.
My favorite 700’s & 700 classics are C Prefix. Great guns up to late 80’s.
I have 3 700's, one in .22-250, .30-06 and .300 WinMag. All are early 1990's vintage and I bet I have put 15,000 rounds through them and have NEVER once had an intentional discharge when chambering a round. All have the original bolt and trigger, though the trigger has been adjusted to 2.5 pounds on all three. I am guessing that the rifles that discharged inadvertently either had modifications done to them that were performed by someone who did not know what they were doing or the rifles were not properly maintained.
The action on my 700's is super smooth as silk and the bolt glides and locks into place flawlessly,
My favorite rifle I've had many of them over the years but the one I have now I've had for at least 30 years and wouldn't take any amount of money for it , probably 90 percent of the game I've taken by gun has been took with it , my favorite rifle I own.
An all time classic - the 700 does it all. You knew what to buy and bought well. I hope they return to the quality control of the past.
I appreciate your videos because you seem to have way more what I consider "hunting" rifles, not so much all this new "tactical" or "AR" stuff. Maybe I'm just getting old and out of fashion but I appreciate rifles like the Winchester model 70, Winchester models 71, 86, 94, 92, 95, etc, single shots like the 1885 high and low walls, or those fancy ones that you have from canada, can't think of the name now (getting old and feeble minded), or rifles like the ruger 77, mauser 98's, remington model 7 CDL's, you get the idea. Synthetic stocks are good and prefered for some rifles and uses, but you just can't beat a nice wood stock for a classic arm. Keep up the good work.
I have one of those Remington 700 sps in 308. And it's no Husqvarna or mauser that's for sure. The action is raw, and the finish is not all that refined. But it works, it's a daily driver if you will, and after shooting it frequently, the bolt will work smother. I use it in a magpul stock with a IR sight to night hunt boar, and in that configuration it's a heavy beast. Not my go to deer stalking rifle, but it gets the job done in the role i assigned for it.
I have a 700 made in 1997 with what was called DuraCoat on the finish the boat is very very slick and comes in the battery quite nicely. Overall very satisfied with this rifle completely black finish on the rifle.
I bought a 700 back in 67. I don't recall the cutout for the stripper clip, possibly because it was in .243. That was a super slick rifle & I had to sell it when I needed some funds. I tried to buy it back from the guy I bought it from, but he had gotten rid of it. I had a Lyman 48 receiver sight that is worth a lot of money today.
My Dad had a 1962 700 30/06. It was spectacularly beautiful. I loved shooting it. It was more accurate than my skills. I was 13 years old in '62. Unfortunately he traded it for a S&W Model 29 44 mag. a year later.
I bet he doubled his money during that era. Or at least when dirty harry came along
A Rem 700 traded on a pistol,,,ANY pistol is a
very bad trade.
@@RH-xr8ms Not a Colt Python .357 Mag.
Thank you your very smart I really in joyed listening and learning from you see you soon
I purchased a used 700 ADL in 243 back in '63 (yeah, I'm an old anachronism ). It had a 20 inch barrel, as did all 700's of that early era. It also had a 308 length action. It was superbly accurate. I still have a 1 1/4 inch 200 yard group with the 100 grain Nosler partition bullet. Dupont 4350, now IMR, was my favorite powder and still is. I mounted one of the early Leupold 2x7 scopes on it. I've always regretted selling it.
Great rifle and cal. I hope you buy another.
I would regret selling it tooo😢
awesome video! thank you! I just bought an old one today. subscribing!
You have a very fine rifle now...or another one : ). Thanks for subscribing!
You’re everywhere lol. This video popped up as a suggestion under one of Heavy Metal’s video.
I own a 1968 Remington 700 BDL in 30-06. The action is smooth as butter. It is basically in immaculate condition and I love the higher gloss finish! Also it really shoots nice and the iron sights is all you need as they are accurate!!
Last year in the dear stand my friend commented on how much better the blueing is on my old 700 compared to his new one.
@@charlesmckinley29Yes, they the blueing is executed in excellence. Again, ai am amazed at the smoothness of the bolt action.
The accuracy is something I have not seen in many newer firearms that claim to be very accurate.
Bought mine in 1969, still have it !
I Own a Remington 700 which is Super Accurate with a Beautiful Wood Stock with a good Scope . I love to shoot it and Hopefully one day soon I get to take it on an Elk Hunt .
I’ve taken many bull elk with my Model 700 Remington BDL 3006 short barrel using 165 grain Core Loct. Good luck to you.
I remember seeing a 1962 Model 700 ADL in 7mm Remington Magnum at one of my local gun shops around 8 months ago. Not only was it cool to see one of the first Model 700 7mm magnums, but I also noted that it had a recoil pad on it as well. I found that to be odd and thought it was something added on by a previous owner. Later that same evening I looked up old Remington Catalogs online, and found that the Model 700 ADL in .264 Winchester Magnum and 7mm Remington Magnum came with factory installed recoil pads. Now, that was for a 1962 model so I looked up a 1967 catalog today and found that they still put recoil pads on ADL models in those two calibers. So, if your 1967 is of either caliber the recoil pad would likely be original. If it isn't then the recoil pad was an aftermarket job.
Anyway, I hope that information helps to illuminate why your 1967 has a recoil pad and thank you for the neat video.
My older rem 870.recoil.pad jas the remington logo on the back prob would fit perfect on the butt of 700s
1967, lol. My grandfather bought a rem 700 chambered in 30-06 in 1967. I still have the receipt. I think it was $157 out the door. Not a lot now but back then that was a lot of money for my grandfather. Later he built a 700 in 264 win mag. My father still has both guns. They are family heirlooms, my dad actually got himself a 700 (sps I believe) for beating around in the woods. The 30-06 was the regular hunting rifle and the 264 was built for "shooting mountain top to mountain top" and that what it was used for in Flatwoods West Virginia. Very informative video, you have the tendency to make me reminisce.
A side note: the safety on the 30-06 has malfunctioned 4 times. Please do not trust it. We are going to put another trigger group in it, if it ever goes in the woods. It caused the gun to go off at a hunting camp. My grandfather was accused of pulling the trigger. He said he put a m1 Garand blank in the gun sat in the yard and played with it all day unable to make it malfunction again. Second time his friend had it go bang at the shooting range. It happened 2 times after this. No one was ever harmed because my grandfather and his friends were/are safety conscious. But for anyone reading this never trust the factory safety, please.
Thanks Jake - I'll reiterate that point - which is a theme of my channel : never trust safeties. I just open the bolt - on everything except the modern bolts that are not cocked until the shooter does that - such as the R8
I sent my bdl 3006 LH to Remington for the newest recall in Oct. , just got it back with new trigger, no charge. My rifle went off once when pushing safety off, never trusted after that. I bought it new in 1978, 4 rounds one small hole at 100yds. Bench rest target shooter came over to ask me what I was shooting. HA! He was looking at my target. What a rifle. Can't wait for spring to see what it can do with new trigger.
I have a 700 bel bought in 1975 for 186.00 out the door, topped with a bushnell scope chief 1.5 to 8 power, love it .
You knew what to buy - and what a buy. If they keep printing money $186. will soon buy a coffee.
I have a 1968 Remington 700 Bdl 24 inch heavy barrel with wood stock and Fuer De Lise carvings. Amazing rifle chambered in 7mm Remington Magnum
My 2014 BDL black forearm cap fell off when the glue cracked in the cold...BUT! It is deadly accurate. Love the gun. Never had to use more then one shot to bring down a deer.
I got a Model 700 LSS (jeweled bolt). It certainly does not sound like the early model 700 you showed when opening the bolt. And my first thought was the steel sounds and looks like it is of a much better quality. I guess in order to produce affordable firearms gun makers have partaken in the race to the bottom. Frankly I would rather pay more for the quality of earlier days. One consolation is that my modern day 700 shoots very well(and looks beautiful).
great video man, gotta love these Remingtons...all that stuff on the news about the safety's was for more recent models I think around 2014. The bottom line is that the older models are just so well made it's almost stupid not to get one. Hoping to get one soon!!
Great line : "...so well made it's almost stupid not to get one" - I agree 100% - the slope for current rifles is a steep downward slope.
No it’s not the newer rifles that had the safety issue it was the older ones. I have one and when it malfunctions the rifle goes boom as soon as you move the safety to the fire position. The only reason this happens is that the seat on the trigger gets out of position. My gun fell about 16’ from a deer stand and that’s when mine started acting up. Took it to a man that builds rifles on Remington actions and he readjusted the sear and all is good again.
@@westtexan2263 I have an older model 700, and I have tried everything to get it to fire - empty of course. It was certain years they had trigger problems , the x -pro trigger come to mind ,and they refused to fix them. I think you are right - people adjusted the sear too much , and caused the problems.It has a good, strong action and locks up tight.
I backed up to 1953 with a M721 in 30/06 that shoots sub .2” groups at 100 yards. I’m happy with it. :-)
Had two 721s , one in 270 and one in 30-06. Fine rifles and loved them both... don’t have either now .. long story.
Stupid me , we’ll just leave it at that.
Nice rifles... i have a 700 BDL Varmint Special in 22.250, from 1977....one of my best..
yeah,I have one in 25/06.
Good mention of the difference between Remington's actual feel from way back to present day. The old Remingtons just feel more solid and the bolts don't seem to rattle as much.
I've never been a huge Remington guy but will say that their 40x 22lr models are usually great rifles. Too bad Remington dropped them from production.
Hi Paul, I didn't know the 40x is gone; sad - it was a very interesting rifle - on top of being one of the most accurate ever.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns - Actually, Remington currently produces the 40x in many center fire calibers. Unfortunately, the 40x 22lr model has been dropped and I'd bet the underlying reason would be the Anschutz domination of the Olympic Games.
Check out any of the pictures released by the US Olympic Team and you'll see only Anschutz on the stocks, various iterations of the 54 and now, the new 54.30 models...
Anyway, Remington has kind of shifted their aim towards the lower $1,500-ish range with their 547 Target model. The 40x CF rifles being made today start with about a $2,500 beginning price and jumping up from there. The 22lr version though is absent from the choices, economics.
When I was in high school in the late 70's, I shot on my JrROTC unit's rifle team and we used the Remington 40x. Four years of shooting free match grade ammo with a superbly accurate rifle - what a perfect dream experience. All of our 40x rifles had Redfield Olympic sights and the reddish-brown stocks with the full length stock track for accessories, and an adjustable rubber butt plate or aluminum hook for standing. We shot three positions - prone, kneeling, and standing.
Gosh, that was fun... I even remember my rifle's serial number - 27975B. How's that for crazy?
Sorry about the misinformation. I meant the 22lr version.
Sadly JROTC and high school shooting teams are disappearing.
I have the 1st year of production…left hand 700 BDL..circa 1972… in 270….2 pickup truck loads of deer.later...and yesterday ..I shot groups that averaged 3/4 inch at 100meters…at the local gun range up here in Northern Michigan..
3/4 of an inch group is the best that I can do at 70…my eyes are not the best….I have varmint rifles in the 700 Remington..that we used for Priarie dog shoots in Montana..that…with custom reloaded ammo we make would group at 1/2 or less at 100 meters…223 and 22 250 rifles..
Thank You, really good class, I have a model 70, Bdl 1977, 100 yrd 20 shots in thumb nail all day.
I have a model 700 in 270 I got I believe in 99/00 new as my first deer rifle, my dad got a browning a-bolt. I know it was when there was some defect and the did recalls but ours was returned and fixed before we even picked it up. synthetic stock with a black barrel. It was always great. Idk about quality compared to now but my dad actually likes my 700 better because it’s a little lighter.
The early model 700 triggers were regarded as excellent factory triggers by many. Some people fiddled with them and made them unsafe. That being said there was a design flaw as well. If debris came between a couple of the trigger components the gun could go off on closing of the bolt. The chance of it happening was small but a real possibility. Given so many 700s were produced the odds were enough that accidents did happen separate from the triggers that were fiddled with. Mike Walker recognized the problem and recomended Remington change the design at the cost of about 50 cents per rifle. Remington gambled by not improving the triggers and lost. There were serious accidents and Remington eventually had to change the trigger mechanism. If I had one of the older rifles I would not worry about it as I would not point the rifle in an unsafe direction. I no longer carry a round in the chamber unless I am sitting in one spot and know the rifle will not be pointed at anything or anyone. This is a good habit to be in with all rifle brands anyway. Thanks for the video.
Please change the trigger. Having a negligent discharge even when pointed in a safe direction is an unpleasant occurrence. It is easy and doesn’t have to break the bank. Yes, it happened to me and thankfully no one was hurt.
I’m a tattoo artist in Montana and frequent the Mountains and hunt regularly. For a tattoo I was paid with a 67’ Remington 700 7MM. REM. MAG. #26644. The tattoo itself would typically cost around $80. I know it’s a steal and although I’ll never let it go, what is the value today? I also own a Ruger rem mag 7mm (my first rifle) 👍🏽 awesome and very informative video!
Hi Lexx - Glad you're on the channel - welcome. A nice 700 of that fine vintage would be about $800. Very good customer. He probably wanted to be able to say he has an $800. tattoo. All the best to you. : )
I purchased my wood and steel adl model 700 when i was 19 new i am 38 now and have never felt a trigger that good it breaks like glass it has aboug 8 notches on it all mule deer a 270 win my prize posession love it.
Hi Mark - I was just practicing with my 700 in .223 - also flawless operation and accuracy.
The Toyota of rifles.
Had a Ruger American in .308 because it was such a good price and it was okay. But after a couple years, I had to trade it in for a Remington 700 (also in .308) and with the trade-in they gave me, I only had to cough up about $300, including tax. It's so worth it. I should have spent the little extra right from the jump. The bolt is so much smoother, and I know it will smooth out even more after a few hundred rounds or so. The trigger is noticeably smoother as well. Even though the pull weight feels about the same, the break is so much nicer. It was only a few hundred more, but you can feel the difference before you even shoot it.
Hi Carl - You bought one of the best - a 700 is a proven performer - an ultra reliable and well designed machine, a classic and reliable hunter with good looks and in great calibers. A 700 in .308 and one never looks back. Thanks for the note and good shooting.
There is a old documentary here on UA-cam that shows the Remington. Production line of about 1970. It’s informative and entertaining, slightly. They sure was amazed by the “space age “( computer tabulating Machine) seemed to not have a true purpose as the production line proceeded it . They talk about it very enthusiastically. Good rifles, all of them I have shot needed no modifications to shoot accurately with.
I know Remington has been having QC issues for the last couple of years or so and If I am not mistaken filed for bankruptcy. Remington 700's are good rifles but since their qc is spotty I was hesitant on buying one new. My first rifle I bought was a 700 bdl back in 99 it was in 30-06 it was a tack driver. It shot groups that were 1/2" constantly no matter what you fed it. I kick myself in the rear for selling it. When Remington gets their act back together and their QC up to standards I'll gladly buy another one. I'd like to get a Remington model 7 in 7mm-08 for a woods rifle. I did buy a Winchester model 70 extreme weather SS in 7mm Rem mag. It's a 1 moa gun so far. I almost bought a 700 Sendero I read a lot of reviews and people were sending them back and having issues with them. Accuracy was substandard in their 700 long range it was reported that people were getting 3"-4" groups out of them from the reviews I've read. I don't know what their deal is.
I've sold a few rifles that I shake my head over. So stupid of me - but there it is. I think it is safe to say : Remington is back - they restructured and have the means, the know how and the intention to establish new levels of quality and innovation.
The 721/722 & 725 which the 700 is derived from, were introduced in 1948 (possibly announced in late 1947 via magazine adds). Gotta love Remington!!
I believe the 721/722 came out first. They were plain stock, 2 position safeties, short/long action. The 725 had a fancy checkered stock, with a cheek comb, and a 3 position safety--I have one, it's beautiful. I think it was meant to compete with the model 70. Any of the previously mentioned have a feel, and history you can't appreciate until you've held one.
Hi Matt, the finish is of the type used on the Remington 700 line of Police Tactical rifles in .308 Win and .300 win mag that came out in the mid 90's. It is the same or similar to the Special Purpose finish on the 870 shotgun line. As for.the rear receiver bridge cutout, you are correct. It is for stripper clips. If memory serves me correctly this was a holdover from the 721 line and was dropped after a few years of 700 production. Although it stayed on the 40X lineup . This was only used on rifles chambered for .308 win/ 7.62 × 54mm NATO and .30 - 06 Springfield. What you are omitting about the bolts is very important. I can't speak of the type of steel and if it changed, but as far as I know they are all engine turned with a brazed on bolt handle, not investment cast. At least up to the last one I got. But the important issue is this, sometime in the early 90's Remington made a major change to the 700's bolt and receiver design. One which outside of hunti g the big 5 seemed unnecessary to me and changed the sickness of bolt operation. A rail was added to the length of the left side receiver raceway and a slot cut into the left locking lug of the bolts head. This was a bolt anti bind device. And in theory was a great idea that would eliminate feeding problems and binding issues when chambering a round. In my experience it did little to correct either. Some polishing and Lubraplate grease would be a more efficient solution. It is obvious when comparatively operating a pre and post implementation of the anti bind device that their is a very noticeable difference in slickness and smoothness of bolt operation. It is much nicer feeling without the anti bind device. And I prefer 700's without it. From my own 1968 7mm mag ADL, 1975 BDL .270, 1991 .308 Varmint, 1992 Police Tactical. 308 and 1995 Varmint stainless synthetic .223, only the last two have the anti bind feature and are the least comfortable to operate. I also don't care for the triggers on these as they come from the factory. I should also mention that in the late 90's I was given a tour of the Remington factory by the head of the custom shop. I took particular notice of custom shop and regular production of the model 700 and 7. And at no point that I can recall was any investment casting used on these rifles, some aluminum, but no MIM or casting. Another fine effort Matt, love to see them. Stay safe
Very informative! Thanks for taking the time to write. I didn't realize the significance of the change to the action. Another improvement that worked out...the other way.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns very true, and let's not forget gun manufacturers that ruin guns by bowing to political pressure, or the possibility of media or legal pressure. Remington did it with their trigger, S&W with the "new style" cylinder release and the keyed internal safety lock and other unnecessary items to prevent us from hurting ourselves ! Think back to a time when many guns didn't even have safeties because shooters were supposed to know their guns and be responsible with them. Consider that most all double rifles never had them. A detriment to hunting cape buffalo, elephant, lion etc. that may be on you in a blink of an eye. Certainly faster than you could pull the trigger, go ooops, and take the safety off and fire. But I doubt you would be saying ooops!
My dad has a 1st year production of the 7mm Mag in the Remington 700 action. Looks exactly like yours 67 model. Very accurate.
Hi Thomas - He made a classic purchase. The early 700 and 7mm Rem. Mag. were in high demand and the cartridge and rifle were sort of perfect together. The 7 is still one of the best magnums - it is just taken for granted now - but remains one of the best ever.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I remember when he bought it. Back them you didn't have to go through a dealer but he got it though a guy who had a gunsmithing business. I remember he paid $169.00 for it. It has a stainless steel barrel on it that Remington had to coat with some kind of electrocoating process to get a blue on it, the bluing doesn't stay on very well. I heard they didn't make very many stainless barrels that way. But it's extremely accurate. It was his only hunting rifle for deer and elk he used, and he took many of them over the years. He called it "Maggy" and we still have it today. Dad quit hunting years ago but he's still with us at least for now. We use to shoot across canyons at rocks on the other side with it just to see if we could hit the same spot again over and over. He also would shoot grouse with it and it was so accurate he would aim for the neck to avoid exploding it. One time the bullet came so close to the neck that it broke the grouses neck but didn't actually hit the neck. It must have been the shockwave of the bullet as we couldn't find where the bullet actually hit it. Oh the memories.
" I actually forgot I had this rifle" you are amazing. I love your videos. Extremely informative and to the point. In recomend your videos to many of my gun friends. Your deserve far more subscribers then what youn have. That will change in time I anticipate. Please keep doing what you do best! Thank you
Thank you Nathan! I'm glad you are here.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Remington 700 BDL precision .222 circa late 80s early 90s. Monte Carlo stock. A Mike Walker bench shooting rifle. It now sports a high powered scope (something like 6-24x44mm) not in these photos. The photos only show a little 3-9x32mm.
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If the average guy or gal was looking for a nice, accurate deer rifle, its hard to argue with a new 700adl. Coming in under 400$, its a very affordable rifle. The addition of a timney trigger and some decent glass puts the total costs about 7-8 for a accurate, proven rifle. It wont win in looks dept, but it will outshoot mosts hands holding it and is still a 700 made in Ilion Ny. Just my .02.
I agree - a "best buy" on the gun market. The 700 in any model is an extremely fine rifle.
I love your awkwardness! It’s adorable 🥰
P.S great video! Very informative.
Great comparison video , very thorough.
Thank You
I put a scope on my daughter-in-law’s Christensen Arms rifle today. It has a carbon fiber wrapped barrel and weighs nothing. She’s a small gal and this suits her well. It’s a .300 Win and the muzzle brake works excellently.
Bravo - wish I could find one; awesome.
Nice rifles Sir, I have always liked the looks of a Remington Model 7 especially with a laminated stock. I was the 101st like on this video, I was trying to cancel the one down vote so You would have 100. God Bless You Sir, and thank You for making these excellent detailed videos.
Hi Rick, In case I have not mentioned this already : you were one of my first subscribers and supporters. When my tremor was at its worst I could scarcely hold a cartridge or magazine - even if no one knew. At that time, the doctors were telling me...Parkinsons. You were always supportive and positive. Sometimes before filming I had no idea how I could convey what I wanted to share and handle all the firearms and do a decent job - your belief in me made a huge difference. Now things are better...thank you. Back to the guns : ) - the Model 7 with the laminated stock is really special - a friend of mine in Houston bought one from the custom shop : has favorite. Thanks for everything Rick. God bless you. Mike
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Mike, that means a lot to Me. I am glad You are doing better. I really enjoy Your hard work and effort that You put into You're videos, always interesting, very detailed and I always learn something when I watch Your videos. You're channel is very special to Me.
I wish I had so many rifles that I could afford to forget I had one!
Sorry about that - sounds a little stupid of me.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns not at all, it's a lot harder where I live get a firearms license and I'm one of their fortunate few to have a pistol and a rifle and looking at getting another one soon
When ..I buy a used LH Remington 700…I only buy the early years… easy to tell… the stock has a brass pin on the side of the stock..in front of the trigger guard area of the stock…later 700s ..had a black dowel or pin in their gun stocks….another give away..the white line spacers in the early BDL stocks had a yellow color to them from the finish…between the front black fore arm tip..newer ones are pure white in color…Pretty easy to age these rifles …if you study the stocks..
I have a 1964 222, a 1974 222 and a1985 222 all adl's I load for each separately, the 3 shoot .2-.3's all three are different in how I load them. I just use the 1985 gun now, have several more. Love them, but I buy the oldest ones I can find
.222 is my favorite. Gives coyotes a good thumpin
Gonna pick one of these up from a private party, $400 with an old leupold 3x9 its a BDL in 7mm i think its pretty old and the action is slick as snot.
If your left-hand 700 was really made in 1971 then the stock has been changed. Remington used impressed checkering on the 700 until 1974. They also added an anti-bind groove in the bolt head similar to the one Winchester added to the post-64 model 70. That may be why some actions are smoother than others.
I had a mid 1970's BDL very accurate, but man was that stock slippery when it was raining.
It is true Arthur - sooo slippery.
Hey, I've come across your channel a couple different times recently and I like your vids. I just won an auction for a 1967 700 BDL off Gun Broker and I'm psyched. It looks to be in amazing condition.
I keep hearing about the 700 having accidental discharges. Anyone that can comment on that?
I'm not sure what to believe.
Congratulations! Remington did recall some older 700’s. They will fix it for free. Go to their web site.
A friend that I shoot with regularly has two black stocked model 700's and they were not expensive to buy. The bolts are not as smooth as my Winchester M70 but they work. His 270 is very accurate even though it feels a bit cheap.
That's the thing about those 700's - they are so accurate - it is hard for anyone to really dislike them.
The cutout on the receiver bridge on the early 700s was a holdover from the 721/722 rifles, a lot of the components on the early 700s were leftovers from earlier production. The purpose isn't well known, but from owning several, I can tell you they won't accept a stripper clip. My guess was to allow for easier loading of longer cartridges, since the 721 action was used primarily for .30-06 length cartridges, but was also chambered in .300 H&H, which is a true magnum length cartridge. Same with the 722, which was designed around .300 Savage length cartridges but also chambered in slightly longer cartridges like the .244 Remington and .257 Roberts. Just my best guess.
That's very interesting - I had a few notes from people about that cutout - I like the longer cartridge idea. Thanks for sending.
i have a 1970 and love it. floated and bedded
That's the ticket! A 70s 700 is a very fine vintage.
Hey bud. Hope alls well, had my rem 700 out couple days ago, my 270 cal BDL deluxe, 1962 yr, still shot MOA with an old tasco 3x9x40
" TV view " scope. With my handload. 150gr hornady RN the steel butplate def lets you know something went down range, great old guns
It's amazing how a fine rifle lasts and lasts; those 700s remain among the best; and I like those TV view scopes - something different and Tasco scopes are a great value. Thanks for the note.
The reason the 1967 M700 feels different than the newer M700's is Remington added the anti-bind feature in the early 70's. Pull the bolt and look at the right side locking lug, the right lug on later M700's ride on a slot milled into the receiver. The anti bind feature is probably the most important change Remington did to the M700. Current production M700's are generally quite accurate.
Hello Casey - thank you for this important information - I had no idea! I learn from you.
The slot on the receiver is a clearance. Not really for a stripper clip but for a finger. The Remington 721 and 700 long action have a reloaders preferred 3.6" magazine box. The magazine extends far behind the rear of the receiver. Obviously discontinued because not really necessary. Although a stripper clip "works" it's not all that usful as the capacity is 4 rounds and not 5.
The 1962 model I see maintains much of it's Remington model 721 heritage. Interesting! I know what you mean by the feel. I have a 700 Sendero that's a tack driver but my 721's action feels way smoother and precise.
I like that Sandero - good one to have; and the 721 - so slick; I wonder why they ran differently from the 700 - they seem nearly identical; maybe something in the steel.
One big thing of note is that all the 60s model magnums all had stainless steel barrels. This ended for the most part in the early 70s. The first year the barrels were not marked stainless. The barrels looked like regular bluing, but they were copper plated I believe than a blue put over it. The stainless magnums are extremely accurate.
Thank you! I didn't know that. I'd like to own one of the original stainless.
I have a few 700 with the stupid safety locks on three or four of the bolts around 99’/00’ I need to remove. I have a 67' 600 model. They need to start making them again.
I have one in 7mm mag. I love it.
Classic rifle George. 700 in 7mmRM - ideal
I got a 1962 Remington 700 adl in 243 , for the first two years the barrels were originally 20 inches
Those were perfect; the .243 doesn't need a longer barrel as you know. People look for the originals. Some have their BDLs cut down - but the front sight is lost or has to be re-drilled etc...
My old man has a model 700 bdl 6.5 rem mag Nd I just yesterday picked up a steal of a deal a 2506 700 bdl for next to nothing love the looks of the model 700
Great video! I think it’s a shame to see so many manufacturers cheapening their products. I am curious though, how a current production Remington 700 BDL stacks up? After handling different current M700 versions, I found the BDL, and CDL are leaps and bounds better than the SPS and ADL versions. I’m really curious what you think? Thank you again for your excellent videos! Keep up the good work!
Thank you Joe's O.F. For sure you are right - the BDL and CDL are much nicer than the lesser models. the older 700s used different manufacturing processes and raw materials. The steel in the new ones is different and differently made. I don't know the details but the result is that the older 700s "feel" much higher quality. I suspect performance is about the same and the new triggers are probably better so it is gains and losses as usual. I still buy the earlier models - given the choice. Hope this helps.
and thanks for writing.
Same here. I couldn't put my money down for the cheaper models...for me it was worth it paying a little extra for decent bluing and walnut. I went with the BDL - I like the CDL better but wanted a 22" barrel.
Buy an older 700 and a Trigger Tech trigger and you will be money and quality ahead. I did have the safety malfunction but there are a ton of good quality replacement triggers.
Man I really enjoy your vids and have learned a lot from watching them. What is your thoughts on the Remington sportsman 78? I just purchased one and it is a very nice shooting rifle. I did put a nice Boyd’s stock on it cause I did not like the plain birch one that came with it
Hi Ricky, Thanks for the good words. Your Sportsman 78 is excellent - I call it an uncluttered 700. I even like the original stock; reminds me a bit of the 721. Great buy and you'll find it an accurate and reliable rifle.
USOG thanks so much. I love your vids
I have one LH Remington 700 in 30-06 (Made in late 70s). I noticed that there are two tiny screws on the right rear side of the receiver exact the same as the LH one in your video. However the latest model of R700s don't have those. Do you happen to know what's purpose of these two screws? Thanks,
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I know exactly what you are saying, I recently purchased a model 700 ADL synthetic stock in a 243 built in 2008. I've owned several Remington 700 over the years in the fit and finish and quality of the steel in this firearm is not up to par with what Remington produced in the in the earlier rifles say pre-1995. It's no wonder with the quality of rifle such as this one that Remington went into the financial state that it did sad to say
Hopefully you or someone will see this comment and point me in the right direction, but I recently inherited a 1969 manufactured 700 in .30-06 from my late grandfather who bought it on his return from Vietnam. The rifle is functionally perfect, but it's missing the rear sight components and I would like to get it assembled back to factory specs. Do you know of anyone who would carry the original/vintage parts? The ramp is intact, but it's missing everything else. Thanks!
Hello - Try here
www.gunpartscorp.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=remington+700+sights
You're not missing much if you have the ramp - you only need the slide which goes on the ramp and the cross piece that is dovetailed into the slide - and 2 small screws: one for locking the slide on the ramp and the other for setting windage. These parts are quite common at gun shows or if you call a local gun shop. Many people take off their Remington sights - especially the rear sight - so the front bell of their telescopic sight doesn't hit the rear sight. Hope this helps and best of luck.
Hello watching your videos on a rainy Saturday. ..I just traded for a 700 bel deluxe in .270...not sure if I'll keep it or not...but I'm sure it's serviceable as a deer rifle. ..and then some...I do prefer the mod 70....odd thing ...I always hunt with my old 94 winchester. ..lol...again...I enjoy your videos and appreciate your knowledge. .and gained the information you share
I'm like you J wish - could hunt with a 700 or 70 - or others - but quite often find myself reaching for the 94 or a Marlin - just seems right a lot of the time.
Great video. Thanks.
My 1962 Model 700 in .264 Win Mag has the same recoil pad as your 1967. It is original.
Thank you!
Your vids are great 👍