Problems Caused by E10 Fuel in Garden Machinery
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- E10 Fuel and Garden Tool Problems Video
This video takes an in depth look at the effect new E10 fuel has on gardening equipment and the various actions you can take to reduce, mitigate or remove the problems this causes.
There is a lot of information packed into this video so you'll want to listen carefully. Hopefully this research will help you out
Chapters in this video:
0:10 Contents
0:25 Why the Change?
0:50 What is Ethanol?
1:20 What the Problems are
2:52 Signs that you may already have a problem
3:04 What can you do about it
3:28 What are the alternatives - E5 Fuel
3:53 Use a Fuel Stabiliser
4:23 Use Alkylate fuel
5:03 Battery or corded Tools
6:06 Battery advantages
6:23 E15, E85, The Future
7:42 Conclusions
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Government Legislation
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What is E10 petrol and can it damage your car?
E10 Explained
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Effect of E10 Fuel
www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/em...
Will E10 work in my tools
aspenfuel.co.uk/will-e10-work...
Effect of E10 fuel
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Why we recommend fuel additives
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What is Alkylate fuel
aspenfuel.co.uk/find-out-more...
Consumer Benefits
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New fuel v environmental benefits
www.express.co.uk/life-style/...
Morrisons opens first Bio-Ethanol fuel pumps
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How will the switch affect your car
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Morrisons announces closures
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FOX Business - Dont use E15 fuel
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Best explanation and tips yet about this. 👍⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thanks Brian. I know the delivery was a bit, monochromatic, but I had to script this one. Far too much info to remember. Glad it was helpful. 🤘. Nick
@@NickBarban Not at all. Well researched. 👍
33% huh. Not suspicious at all. Dirty masons.
E10 to reduce CO2 ? Have they factored in the diesel used to farm all of the maize used to make the bioethanol, not to mention the land wasted that could have been used to grow food crops -- thanks greenies !
Hi MrAvant - as far as I can tell from the research, yes. The whole production process was included in the calculations. As to biodiversity and the space not used for other purposes, that wasn’t part of my research. I was concerned mostly about the effect of the new fuel on gardening tools. But you make a valid point 👍. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Are you aware of Klaus Schwab, the WEF and their Great Reset plan that's being pushed? Those points you mentioned are connected,.... seems like they had been planning this for years then.
Exactly, The process of turning food into fuel is energy inefficient.
Unfortunately we have decision makers who are qualified on paper but have very little common sense or have other motives for disrupting society.
You do realise that giant container ships and tankers use the most polluting heavy grade fuel, they produce as much pollution as all the cars output, add to that air flight and all the aviation fuel, after 9/11 and the flights were grounded, they had a few pictures showing various sites around the world normally covered in haze or smog, all crystal clear, no flights no pollution, there were reports of pollution levels dropping, then strangely most of them disappeared, and they made big issues about other pollutants in the air.
Recycling my cardboard and plastics is not going to solve anything, most of it is dumped in Turkey or Pakistan as uncovered by investigators, stopping or making air travel cleaner and cleaning up the toxic output from shipping would solve a lot of issues. Sadly, the media likes to be the government mouthpiece and continue with Net zero.
CO2 is a vital plant food. Pollution is an entirely different matter. We are living in a lunatic asylum with the public believing any nonsense that the powers at be can invent.
Climate change is normal but only governments instigate weather control and setting fire to forests.
Coming from a garden machinery dealer point of view we see the vast majority of mowers using E10 and two stroke machinery come in for starting issues using E10 fuel with the basic red colour two stroke oil which is sold everywhere from DIY stores to manufacturers such as Stihl. Our dealership decided to stop selling the red two stroke oil and only sell the two stroke oils with the fuel stabilisers in them which for example with Stihl are green in colour(some other manufacturers like Husqvarna may have a blue colour), these oils also give better starting, create less smoke and provide better lubrication. We also recommend using the Alkalyte non ethanol fuels in two stroke machinery or machinery like pedestrian lawnmowers, tillers generators or wheeled leaf vacuums that you don't used for long periods. We also recommend E5 and fuel stabilisers in ride on mowers as these aren't immune to fuel issues either.
We see less customers return machines with starting issues using fuel additives, Alkalyte fuel and the two stroke oils with fuel stabiliser additives.
Every Mechanic I’ve spoken to has said never use ethanol fuels.
Thanks for the vid.
Remember, E5 doesn't mean it has 5% ethanol, it means that's the maximum it may contain (same with E10). This can vary depending on fuel supplier and location. For example, Esso E5 in the midlands and the south of England contains 0% ethanol however they are legally required to label it as E5 despite it having no ethanol.
I use E5 for all my garden machinery
Hi. It’s a point that’s been brought up quite a few times now. It wasn’t something I looked into. Maybe it’ll be part of a follow up. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Just as a matter of interest, where did you get that data from? I’d be interested in having a deeper look into which fuels have what. Cheers. Nick.
Top man, an excellent video, thank’s for putting-in the leg-work and sharing this information. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🇮🇲🇬🇧🕊
What a useful report . Many thanks . I ran my 4 stroke ride on back in 1998 to 2007 on 6 Fench Franks Cologne mixed with stardard cellulose thinners , the water dropped straight out and i decanted the top layer . Even added a bit of household kerosine . Ran fine , a little rough but cheap !😃
What on earth is Fench Franks Cologne?
Thank you! Such a clear explanation -- one that describes perfectly what has been happening to my rotavator and strimmer. Excellent!!
My little used 2018 bought two stroke standby generator was fuelled up in November 2021.
A power cut in March 2022 started the generator and it ran for around 15 minutes then cut out.
When I went to restart it it did not sound right so I tried the manual pull cord and noticed immediately that there was very little compression resistance.
A stripdown revealed a scored cylinder bore that was beyond repair and at the time I thought that I had added too little oil to the fuel.
I have since learned about this and I am really angry that the oil companies or government failed to get the message out that this fuel is poison to some engines.
I never knew about the problems with E10 petrol as I was never informed about it but it has cost me a £189 generator.
I used to believe and try to be "green" but now they can shove it where the sun does not shine thanks to this policy of blindly introducing a fuel that wrecks small engines and many old cars.
"equivalent to 350000 cars being taken off the road" AND OR stopping working........... cos their engines had too much water in them. Oh yes that'll work in getting the cars off the road and/or petrol powered engines. Thank you for your time and effort putting this video together.
Hi Daniel. Glad you found it interesting. 🤘
I only found this video after my petrol lawnmower had completely seized up. I had tracked the oil and all was ok until the first cut after the winter. I used fuel purchased last October that had been in a jerrycan and had no idea that E10 would cause issues. I have made the decision to move to electric, as an excellent offer on Greenworks for a lawnmower with 2 x 4Ah batteries, trimmer and hedge cutter for under £270 was available. I only have 4 small to medium lawn areas and believe battery power should cope with all of it. Sadly I think E10 fuel is just not viable for garden equipment and the experience makes me wonder about all those car engines that must not be as healthy.
Top video, many thanks, really appreciate your time and effort 👍👌👏
Nice one, great video, very informative, thanks for your time and effort, very much appreciated
Hi pat. Thank you. I learnt quite a lot doing the research. Glad it was useful. Thanks for posting. Nick.
If they have not been removed from youtube there were videos on here showing you how to remove ethanol from pump bought petrol by simply using water and food dye. Removal of the ethanol content did reduce the octane rating but this can be addressed by adding octane booster.
Cheers Mike. I did look into covering this but any issues that came up from that sort of advice wouldn’t just be a can of worms, it would be a best if vipers! With current fuel prices, this might be a viable option right now 👍. Thanks for posting. Nick.
@@NickBarban It is maybe best just pointing people to these videos, inviting none mechanical people to play around with fuel could hold it's dangers as the separation process takes twelve hours. As and when e5 is no longer available at the pumps I will be using this method with my motorcycles. At the moment I am on the e5 and also using the latest version of Castrol Valve Master which contains protection against rubber, plastic and metal damage due to ethanol which in the motorcycle world also causes swelling and damage to bikes fitted with plastic fuel tanks.
AARRRGGHHH!! I went to my local Texaco station yesterday, only to be given the choice of diesel or E10 petrol! So I went back to Tesco.
Appreciate your efforts, liked & subscribed. Very informative.
Hi Ken. Thanks for the sub and thanks for posting. Let me know if there’s another topic I can cover. Nick.
I transferred to Super-unleaded some time ago for the cars as I found that I was getting around 10% better fuel economy for a 7-8% price premium, that naturally translated into my horticultural machines as it made sense to only have one source of petrol. Soon after that I found out the damage that the ethanol was supposed to cause to older classic engines (I have 4 classic cars) and the horticultural machines. Since the advent of E5 I have used a fuel stabiliser to help store the fuel as I can't guarantee how much I will have at the end of the season and flushing the surplus is not recommended. When E10 was introduced Shell and BP confirmed that their super unleaded in parts of the country did not contain ethanol despite stating it on the pump and I believe that I live in one of those areas. As a sort of confirmation of the state of play I recently saw a test of the amount of ethanol in super unleaded petrol, where most of the top brands only had 2 1/2% ethanol although the location where the fuel was sourced was not stated.
I really don't fancy the idea of battery powered machines because of the inconvenience - they require batteries to be charged over significant periods and I have various tools that are battery powered that have failed prematurely, notwithstanding that batteries are often model specific and individually are expensive. Most of my gardening kit is high powered professional quality to maximise production as I simply can't afford the time required to use low power units. I look after my tools which are often decades old but still function in top form e.g. my Honda HR19/4 36 years old mower and my 33 years old Yardman 30" lawn tractor. I will be seriously upset if they are destroyed by the fuel.
Hi Clive. I can understand that. Very little of my gardening work is light. I’ve tried a Bosch battery mower. It was pathetic. No power, no torque and no run time. With the volume of stuff I do and the amount of power I need to get it done, I can’t see me moving over to battery tools any time soon, unless it’s just do my own garden. But the cost for just that purpose is prohibitive. As it is, I need to buy a Euro 6 rated van, to avoid the ULEZ charge coming in August - that cost would be over £300 per month with my current van! Anyway, just have to see how the technology evolves over the next few years. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Started to use super unleaded two weeks ago before I saw this vid and my mowers all run properly now which they haven’t done for years
Hi mark. Good to hear 👍. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Useful video, I only use E5 in mower and chainsaw as there were running problems with E10. I have also bought a battery powered mower and chainsaw which have the same battery platform. These are quite efficient, the chainsaw won't cut as quickly as my petrol one, but I wouldn't expect it too. Most mowing and wood cutting now using battery tools and sometimes using petrol kit for certain jobs.
Your E10 problems are in your head.
Love it, straight to the point and easy to understand, fantastic cheers mate 👍
Hi Aaron. Glad it was useful. A little bit wooden but I had a lot of unfamiliar info to get through. 👍🤘. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Your exactly right with moisture problems, it is common that it increases water in motorcycle fuel tanks and carburetors too.
I'm a gardener and have never had problems with any machines before e10 was introduced, straight petrol machines bogging down constantly and my two stroke tools are needing carbs changed constantly. Stuffs terrible
Hi Russell. Sorry to hear that. Since I did the video, I’ve stuck with E5 (even though it’s stupidly expensive!) and I’ve been adding the Briggs and Stratton Fuel Fit. For the 2 strokes I’m using the Stihl Ultra 2 stroke oil. I’ve not had any problems at all. The fuel fit isn’t too expensive and it goes a long way. Worth getting some and trying it. 👍. Btw, what manufacturers are you running. I’ve got Tanaka 2 strokes and the new Hayter 48 Pro.
Where I live we have E10, E20 and E85. Car will run on all and bike will run up to E20. I have been using E10 in my hedge trimmer and brush cutter for 11 years. Only problem is having to replace fuel hoses every year.
Thanks very much
Use E5 instead of E10, as I do in my car and lawn mower, may be a bit dearer but still in most garages
Hi. I use E5 with Fuel Fit. No issues yet. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Think yourselves lucky that you can choose E5 instead of E10, we can now only get E10 in Ireland.
@@jaws6869 You have to look around not all garages still sale it here in the south of England, but a lot of them still do
@@NickBarban I have a classic car using E5 and the rubber seal on the NOS petrol cap has started to distort and turn to jelly. I expect any damages to my petrol pump and carb will be hidden until they let me down. All planned to get cars off the road.
Hi jaws. They just wanted to be cleaner than us. That’s something I suppose. Just gonna cost you more in fuel fit or a Redex! Thanks for posting. Nick
Thank you !
Thank you
I now use Super unleaded in all my small engined tools, mower and strimmer both stopped working. Once filters and fuel lines cleaned and E5 fuel used all tools fired up straight away and all now run beautifully. It's a bit more expensive but better than having to replace all my tools!
Hi Wayne. I moved to E5 fuel with fuel fit as soon as E10 came out. I’ve not had any issues. Fuel cost may be more expensive but it beats they hell out of all the parts that would need replacing on all my 2 stroke gear, bearing in mind the mileage they get used. Not sure what I’ll do when they stop making it. Don’t know if I’ll have transitioned over to battery tools by then. Just can’t see the benefit of the cost yet! Thanks for posting. Nick.
Years ago, 1961 my friend was running a James motorcycle with a Villiers 225cc 2 stroke engines d to make it smell like a racing motor cycle he added around a tablespoon of Castrol ‘R’ oil to his 2 stroke fuel mixture. Now for those who don’t know Castrol’R’ is a vegetable based oil. When burned, like cooking oil it leaves a sticky gum residue in the combustion chamber and piston rings.
The fuel mix we are putting into our cars and lawnmowers is just that vegetable oil. The only way I was able to clean my friends engine was to strip it down to all it basic piece s, with the exception of the crankshaft which needed special tools which I didn’t have access to .
To glen all the parts (not many) on a 2. Stroke engine was to use brake fluid and a 1 inch paint brush and soak all that I could get at. I started at 8 o’clock Saturday morning and finished it off by Sunday evening at around 6pm. Washed out the fuel tank with cellulose thinners an put in some petrol/oil mixture and a shot of Red X .
I know what it does to petrol engines but we also have to put this rubbish into diesel engines. Is this causing problems with exhaust systems as my BMW 420d has had 2 recalls for the particulate filter catching fire and this vegetable additive is just the thing to cause as drivin at less than 3000rpm doesn’t get the system hot enough and 3000 rpm would break the speed limit ☹️
Thanks for the info. I found some videos on UA-cam showing you how to separate ethanol from E10 fuel using distilled water. This may a consideration for some domestic users.
Hi. I’ve not looked into it. I imagine if I did it my lawnmower would explode 😂🤣. As long as you add back in a correct amount of suitable octane booster, you should be golden. E10 95 octane fuel with the Ethanol removed could have an octane value as low as 88 - some places suggest even lower. That could be terminal for any 4 stroke.
Thanks for posting this. I did originally consider adding info about this in the video but I decided to steer clear. Just in case! Thanks for posting. Nick
Tap water will do it on the YT vids I've seen.
E10 kills old carb seals and fuel pipes,dont ask me how i know.
How do you know 🤣🤣🤣
Yes it is killing tools. I have a brand new mower that just constantly blocks the carb with a jelly substance. I get maybe two cuts of my lawn with it.
That's exactly what I had. I ended up junking my mower as spare parts were no longer available.
Hi. If you use E5 AND use a fuel conditioner like Briggs and Stratton Fuel Fit, it might help clean things up. Hope it helps. Thanks for posting.
Same issue with me. 2019 Honda mower is useless too costly to get carb cleaned constantly and now being sold for scrap. I used the fuel stabiliser which didn’t help at all.
Question: We have limited E85 in Australia. Can we expect a tank FULL OF WATER.
That E10 doesn't only mess with lawn mowers , Im convinced it stuffed up my Vauxhall Corsa 1200 but cannot prove it.
Hi Nick. Wouldn’t be surprised. Supposedly using a small amount of Redex can help. Might be worth a try. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Cologne in the 90s in France cost 6 French franks a liter about 60 p and was 60% ethanol
When I store my motorbike for winter, I feed the fuel system 100% petrol (aspen). This is very expensive but good for storage.
I use a dual 18v e.g. 36v Makita multi-tool strimmer pole saw. Strimming on level 2 (out of 3) gives me about 15 minutes. level 3 is the highest speed for about 10 minutes.
With 4 batteries, I manage the edges of my garden. But I have a 32-acre property and to clear the fence lines for the electric fence I still need my Stihl professional 2 stroke brush cutters. Very heavy brush, Rushes (Swamp grass as some in the USA call it) and brambles. A typical session is 4 hours, and 3 refills of fuel and 2 beers..
On the other hand, the 36volt Makita Chainsaw works relatively better because there is less energy loss in the idling that goes with this stop start type of job. And I have no complaint about the power of any of these tools! But for Brush cutting/Strimming it is only good for home maintenance. This may change in a few years though, The 40v platform for Makita seems an improvement but it is completely new, so no incentive for me to go there. May as well go for any other brand.
Hi J. All my work is estate maintenance. I think I’d have to sell a kidney to pay for all the batteries I’d need to run a strimmer, backpack blower and lawnmower for the amount I have to do each day. With ULEZ coming in this August, I’ve got to look at getting a new van rather new tools this year! Thanks for posting. Useful info. 👍. Nick.
A panic was created to buy up the reserve's of E5 and replace it with E10 , first time ever we were told full had a use by date and people believed it.
If that was the case garages would need to let the consumer know the use by date of the fuel, and it would change every single time the forecourts had their bunkers filled.
Hi Keith. Had to make a rush on the E5. Someone needed a new family jet! 🤣😂. Thanks for posting. Nick.
I have run my mower on E10 for years now and it’s brilliant
Have gone thru approx 17 leaf Blowers in 25 years until I stopped buying 95 Ron Supermarket Fuel and using the Red Sthil Oil.
Domestic Garden use only and for cleaning driveway etc.
Now purchase 99 Ron Non Supermarket Fuel, and either the Green M/Cycle Oil or the Husky Blue
and Leaf Blower is 4 years old and still going strong.
On the last Sthil BG Blower I had it examined after it went and their Conclusion was that
the Ethanol was causing premature cylinder wear and causing water contamination in the
tank and carb.
You only have to see the damage that has been caused to Audi Alloy engines which is stated to
be Ethanol damaging the coating to the cylinder block walls leading to loss of Oil control
by the rings etc.
Friend had a Classic Merc 190 which was not used much, went in the garage one day after smelling
fuel to see that a 'rubber hose'' to the tank had been almost 'eaten alive' and the tank
had emptied onto the Garage floor.
Diagnosis was ''Ethanol Contamination'' of the fuel hose lining.
Hi Steve. I never use supermarket fuel for my tools. Ever. Diesel for the van, yes. But if I want high octane, lower ethanol content fuel, I almost always buy Shell V power, and I still use the Briggs and Stratton fuel fit. Belt and braces approach. Not had a problem with any of my 2 stroke tools, or my Hayter for that matter. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Most petrol stations are still pumping 95octane E5 as of June 2023, 10% is the maximum percentage not the actual.
I sense that you are well aware as to why this is being done, having conducted all this research... hardest part for me was "more efficent cleaner and stores upto 5years" banned... e10 engine destruction.. tick...
Really helpful video! May i suggest the Makita 40v XgT powerhead, 1 tool fits all outdoor landscaping needs. 👍👊
Hi Ninja. Glad it was helpful. I’ll have a look at the Makita. Thanks for the tip and thanks for posting. 👍🤘. Nick.
@@NickBarban i am clearing scrubland and was going to go petrol but the e10 has killed that idea... thankfully tech has caught up and brushless high output motors and higj volt battery really make it a viable option where as before it was 10mins work 2h charge... now its more like 2.5hrs work 45mins charge and with 2 batteries thats pretty much a working day 👊👍
I like the sound of this ... Makita 1 charger, battery is interchangeable many tools. Is that correct. Many thanks
Fuck the climate deal
Yes it’s a problem especially trying to start a cold chainsaw or brush chopper
The same equipment you refer to is used in Brazil, where the mandated fuel is E27 and there are no reports of ethanol creating excessive damage. What can you possibly imagine would make equipment in your country not able to also use E10 or E15 or E20 or E27?
Hi. Although it does affect vehicles, this video is specifically to garden machinery. Fuel can be left in the tanks of certain equipment and the separated fluid that results, is the main cause of the problems, not the E10 when it’s fresh. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for posting. Nick
Top man well explained they are just rotting your cars to tunnel you to electric cars can this be legal ???
Hi Dave. There’s always an agenda. I try to steer clear of the politics, but consider this - in 2025, diesel cars will stop being manufactured, in 2030, diesel trucks and van will stop being manufactured. Which means battery materials need to be mined at an exponential rate, but there just isn’t enough to go around. So, is it going to be hydrogen, water, or are we going back to the horse and cart!? 🤷♂️. Thanks for posting. Nick.
I'm going to start, when I get it back on the road, running my 1975 classic Ford on Aldi/Lidl whisky. It's going to work out cheaper in the long run I think! 😉
My car is doing more mpg was 30mpg now 35mpg with a slight notice in power loss only I do occasionally put a drop of redex in the same for my briggs and Stratton mower seems to be ok and they both start ok. Redex may be helping cylinder upper lubrication and they say ethanol increases water vapour in tank reason for redex
Hi Stephen. Never considered using Redex. I might have a look at it. Thanks. Last time I used Redex was in my 1982 Ford Fiesta Ghia X. I think I stopped all the traffic on my road when I set off. Looked like the fog had rolled I. 😳. Thanks for posting. Nick.
@@NickBarban LOL, you should see it when you pour some down the carb with the engine running. It's like a 1980's Cliff Richards pop video!
😂🤣😂🤣
What is the best ( cost effective, long life, reliability) Battery multitool solution to replace all petrol tools. Mower, strimmer, chain saw, hedge cutter, pole saw/ trimmer . For home garden use. Has anyone done research on this issue. Ideally one battery charger fits every tool battery. Interchangeable batteries.
This is something that I’m looking into myself. Ego seems to be a name that keeps popping up but I don’t have any details yet. Backpack blowers and lawnmowers seem to still need work to get useable aH ratings to make the tools last. I’ll be looking for a strimmer that’s a multi tool, so I can buy different attachments later. Maybe I’ll do a vid on my experience with. Thanks for posting and I hope you find something that works for you 👍
Gave up using regular pump petrol and have moved to aspen. I had 2 stroke oil so i went for aspen 4 and mix stihl hp super with it at 45:1. The aspen plus stihl hp super contains fuel stabilizer for an even longer life. No toxic smell either engines as clean as a whistle. I dont give in to us causing climate change and i hate electric/battery tools.
I am trying to find replacement fuel hose for a small strimmer whose pipes and primer bulb have all rotted. Most of the suppliers of the standard clear plastic type pipe say don’t use theirs with E10. E5 only. And I suspect that the suppliers that done say are just dodging the issue. No one claims E10 compatibility. Seems that E10 softens the pipe. So has anyone found that E10 rots their pipes? Using a petrol additive seems unlikely to stop this problem, as there is still 10% ethanol there.
Only pipes I can find that are E10 compatible are the thicker rubber covered ones and there isn’t any way to use these thicker ones in my strimmer. So I need to use super unleaded only it seems.
Hi. I use super unleaded AND I add in the Briggs & Stratton fuel additive. I have not had and problems on my strimmer or my blowers. Seems to be working so far. Might be worth a try. Hope that helps. Thanks for posting and I hope you find a solution. Nick.
Not only garden machinery. I've had 3 or 4 Mikuni carburettors of my off-road bikes destroyed by that crap...
Hi Mike. Have you tried adding a little Redex. Supposedly works wonders. Hope it helps and thanks for posting. Nick.
proper rason for this platform.
Since using E10 my fuel economy has plummeted. From 43mpg E5 to 32 mpg on E10. I am experiencing 'pinking ' in the engine and it does seem not as much 'umph'. 15p more, but more mileage.
MY COLLMANS TILLY LAMP BLOWS OUT THE MANTLES MAKING IT UNUSABLE IN THE LAMPS AND COST ME 3 PAIRS OF MANTALS BEFORE REALIZING WAS THE FUEL. WHEN LIGHTING ITS CONBUSTION BLOWS A HOLE IN MANTLES
Use the e5 (super unleaded ) for your strimmer ,mower, chainsaw . So easy man
Hi James. That’s exactly what I’m doing. But I’m also using fuel fit to help as well. Thanks for posting. Nick.
What about removing the ethanol?
Hi Michael. It’s doable, but it’s a pain. There are a few videos on UA-cam that show you how to do it, but, tbh, I’ve got better things to do with my time. Good luck with it if you decide to have a go. I’d be interested to hear your thoughts and the result if you do have a go. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Interesting to note that diesel when combusted produces half the CO2 of petrol.
Lucas fuel preserver ( blue) works
Hi MR. Is that for tools, or is just for vehicles? Thanks for posting. Nick.
@@NickBarban any Petrol engine
Hedge cutters can be battery however blowers, mowers & strimmers need to be petrol or you would need £1,000s of batteries.
E10 I have found ok in mowers however in chainsaws, blowers & Strimmers E10 rots the fuel tubes & carburettor diaphragms.
Hi Chris. I’m only using E5 with the Briggs & Stratton Fuel Fit for my tools. So far, no issues. I nearly swallowed my own tongue when I worked out the cost of batteries I would need. But, now that ULEZ is on the horizon, and I’m just inside the zone, battery options are going to have to take a back seat until I can beef up my income. Good luck with it and thanks for posting. Nick.
I've just transitioned from petrol to battery. Ego. Was my brand of choice. I do believe battery is the future for professional gardeners. Although, not quite there yet for commercial mowers. So for now I'll carry on using my trustee Weibang shaft drive for mowing.
Hopefully the more people who buy in to battery the cheaper they will become because of right now they can be too expensive for some.
Hi. Did you go for the Domestic or Professional Ego kit. I hear there’s quite a difference between them. Apart from the mower, the big one for me is a backpack blower. Almost all my work is commercial and I have some days where the backpack is going for 6 or 7 hours. Looking at current performance, it’ll cost me £thousands just in batteries. The shop that does all my servicing and tools stocks Echo. I’ll look at that stuff a bit closer when life is less frantic 😂. Thanks for posting. Nick.
@@NickBarban After recently breaking my wrist my Honda 4 stroke strimmer was to heave for me to use on my recovery. So I took my first step in to battery because I heard it was much lighter. I bought the dedicated EGO strimmer. I love it and have not used my Honda strimmer since. I've now bough, should be arriving today hopefully, the power+ PH1400 Power head and the PTX5100 professional hedge trimmer attachment. I also bought an extra battery. That's as far as I've got so far as I'm not made of money. But on my radar is the pole saw. Lawn edger and possibly the bristle brush. But they'll all have to wait for now.
@@funkyduckproductions.8844 yeah. A lot of cash to fork out. I’m running the Tanaka smart fit strimmer/cutter. It’s had a hard life and in desperate need of replacement, let alone a service. The main thing stopping me moving to battery immediately is the possibility of the ULEZ being extended out to the M25 next year. if that happens, my 2011 transit is worthless and at best, for a Euro 6 van to comply, I’m looking at £18-£20k at the bottom end. If customers only realised how expensive professional gardening is!? I’m sure you’ve had “do we get a discount as you finished 15 minutes early?” Or “that’s expensive. My old gardener did 6 hours for £5!” Can’t live them em….. thanks for posting again and I hope the wrist has a full recovery. Definitely need both to be working 100% doing what we do. 💪👍
@@NickBarban I'm based up in Liverpool. If we started with that ULEZ stuff up here, charging extra to drive on certain roads at certain times I think I'd have to seriously consider if I wanted to continue or if I'd be better off being a drain on societies purse and just become unemployed. There's no way I'd want to be spending out on a new electric van. The numbers just wouldn't stack up for me.
Don’t think they stack up for anyone who isn’t already wealthy. That price was for a 5yr old diesel. The new electric transits start at £43k. I’m as eco friendly as I can be but numbers like that just aren’t doable and still keeping a business running.
The burning of ethanol produces less power than is required to produce it. It’s just diluting the fuel and more fuel has to burned to product the same efficiency.
I like ethanol, not quite as good as a blended whisky but certainly acceptable .
I have noticed the drop in mileage and it seems much greater than 3%.
Hi. Is this on a vehicle?
@@NickBarban Yes a ford focus.
@@peat11 I am Australian and I have 1999 Ford AU Fairmont station wagon (the wagon version of Hubnut's car if you follow him on youtube) that runs on dual fuel. this means I can run it on LPG, E10 or 91RON. LPG and E10 give me similar consumption which is 2litres/100km worse than 91. Today's prices are E10 $1.89/L and LPG 81.7 - 85.9 cents per litre and 91 is 1.95 per litre the offset is that the car runs much better on either LPG or E10 (which is 94RON). The car is designed to run on ethanol fuel (but not E85).
I run my lawn mower on 98RON as it has no ethanol content (I don't think 91 has either but I am certain with 98.
Hi Ian. Interesting to hear how different vehicles in different location fair with different fuels. Also, weird to see how different fuels are available round the world. Never been down under but looks like I’d be stumped with which fuel to use 😂. Thanks for posting. Nick.
A capable chainsaw (i use a 16" Husqvarna) in electric guise is just too expensive at the moment. I think for hedgetrimers and strimmers electric is probably practical.
Hi again. I run Hayter for my mowers and Tanaka for everything else. At the moment I’m flipping a coin between Ego and Echo battery tools(and not because I can’t be bothered to go any further into the alphabet 🤣😂). I can still handle the weight of the petrol hedge trimmers, going for as long as I have, but the reduced weight, vibration and pollution levels of a battery unit would be very welcome.
I suppose here we could add in the argument over production and ecological damage of battery production for these new tools. What do you think? Thanks again for posting. Nick.
Another option to get ethanol free is contact the fuel supplier(s) at your nearest airport. 100LL (100 octane low lead) is also ethanol free.
Maybe worth checking with your local airfield. But don’t hold your breath.
My fuel filler cap on the car even says E10 is recommended.
Cars are a completely different deal. Any cars pre 2002 shouldnt use E10 and all cars in the UK since 2011 I think, are E10 compatible. I concentrated on garden machinery as they seem to be much more susceptible to the problems. Don’t know when comparability started in Germany. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Ride on mower is leaking petrol and has the lawn burnt
I use Aspen in my mower
Hi John. I’ve considered it, but for the volume of fuel I use, I’d probably have to sell a lung! I🤣. I use Shell V Power with Briggs & Stratton fuel fit. In terms of ecological impact, I know it’s not even on the same scale, but commercial work doesn’t have the same profit margins as 10 years ago unfortunately. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Modern poison for the combustion engine…do not use this.. cars motorcycles etc… well explained ..
Hi Gary. Thank you. Fortunately I run diesel for the van. I just have to deal with ULEZ. Ugh. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Bring back 4 and 5 star leaded fuels like we had in the 1970's. Much better product with no problems and bring back mineral diesel. If the army can use why not us too?
Hi Chris. I remember those days. But how would we make all our pencils if we went back to full fat fuel. Thanks for posting. Nick.
The only thing wrong with leaded fuel, IMO was having to strip the heads down to do a de-coke on the clogged up valves. Other than that, I agree.
E5 killed my petrol mower! The seal on the float chamber went all out of shape and spares were unavailable as the manufacturer went bust, so the fuel leaked (more like poured) out, also it gummed up the inside of the carburettor. It heavily rusted up the inside of the fuel tank on my classic VW, causing the float to stick in situe, which in turn made the fuel guage permanently register just under 1/4 full, regardless of wether it had 1/2 a gallon or 4, 5, 6 gallons in it! This stuff is a joke!
It’s not good. Sorry to hear about both your issues. Don’t know anything about car problems with ethanol though. Have you tried a fuel stabiliser. Best option, if you can afford it is the alkylate root. Thanks for sharing and happy holidays. Nick
Well here in germany petrol stations havent sold any Ethanol free fuel in the last 20 something years which is as far as I remember back. Everything but Diesel was at least E5.
GIVE THIS MAN A MEDAL
its so easy to deal with e10 fuel
buy it in 25 L add 25L of distilled water shake well let sit for 24-48 hours and you will see it separate drain off the water at the bottom
now you have pure petrol and remove ethanol in to water as ethanol hydro scopic
Glad fuel where I am has no ethanol.... tank full all the time. No probs with 2yr old fuel.
My Micra k12 and my mates aygo don't holding the idle I am getting angry
Hi R A. Maybe try E5 for a full tank and see if that helps. I don’t really know about cars. All the research was for gardening tools - but I am running all of my petrol tools on E5 and I’m not having any problems. Hope you get it sorted. Thanks for posting. Nick.
I think this needs to be rethought what about classic cars
Hi Chris. My research was primarily regarding gardening tools. I did come across some information on classic vehicles and by all counts, it’s a bit like sticking a bit of C4 in the fuel tank. Some are okay. Some aren’t. Speak to your vehicles manufacturer for guidance. Hope that helps. Nick.
This is a issue and you should not use it in your small engines additives separate out , and clog up the carb and more ,issues and breaking down will be more
Hi Ian. Only reason I run with additives is that doesn’t stay in the fuel tanks long enough to separate. I just have to remember to drain in the winter time. Thanks for posting. Nick.
E10 makes my mower run like crap. Even though it states E10 is ok. So I just run E5
Hi Chris. I run E5 with Briggs and Stratton fuel fit. Plus I use Stihl Ultra for the 2 stroke tools. Thanks for posting. Nick.
@@NickBarban Both of my mowers have Briggs engines. One is a 2009 and the other is a 2016. The 09 one doesn't mention E fuel at all but the 2016 one says E10 is fine but yeah, like I said, it runs like crap. Will have to try that special fuel at some point :)
It doesnt help cut emissions because we have to replace half the engine every couple of years , it will work out that its damaged the environment
Battery tools are great!
Less everything, Less power. Less running time. Less customer satisfaction.
Hi. Yeah. That’s the idea I’m getting back from colleagues so far. That’s why I still haven’t bought any battery gardening tools yet. But I am for my woodworking tools on the other channel. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Aspen is £30 gallon
She’ll and Esso premium have zero ethanol
Do not use E10 or even E5 for garden machinery - there are long term stable fuels available based on alkylate petrol - Aspen and Husqvarna are two fairly readily available examples - there are others - These typically run £20 for 5 litres but they don't gum up carbs or cause lubrication failures - so long term much cheaper than fixing busted tools.
AVGAS is ethanol free - get it from your local airstrip.
Hi Doug. If I wasn’t running a business, I would happily move over to Aspen. But with contracts I currently have, at least doubling the tool fuel cost, it isn’t economically viable. An extra £150/m for fuel isn’t in itself a huge extra cost, but with all the other utility cost increases, and the £300+/m additional cost for ULEZ starting in August, it’s just not a viable option right now. Hopefully if I can reduce other costs, it might become a viable option. Thanks for posting. Nick.
@@NickBarban agreed, if you are a professional then running pump gas is cost effective, but for amateurs who might run only a couple of gallons a year the higher fuel cost is more than made up for in lower repair costs. One banjaxed carburettor can cost over a hundred pounds.
Similar story of you run carburettor equipped vintage motorcycles....
I hate all the fuel rubbish as i have a carbureted 1990 motorcycle. It runs like SHIT cause of the new fuel
If alkylate fuel is so good, why don't we have it for vehicles.
Hi John. Modern engines closely match emission levels that’s alkylates produce in smaller engines for tools. But, alkylates are produced from gaseous hydrocarbons from fossil fuels. Essentially, they are a byproduct of the oil refining processes. Thanks for posting. Nick
Because this would put money back in the pocket of the common man. They can't allow that to happen. It's all about extracting as much profit from the common man as possible. Ethanol in fuel is just one of the million ways they achieve this. Think of it as a hidden tax.
I only use E5 and an ethanol killer in my lawnmower. E10 is liquid shite.
what is the long term effect of using plant based source f0or making fuel? Deplete soil of its nutrients and minerals, diminishing soil based life, and that can cause a different type of eco problem similar to global warming, so Governments have not looked into long term effect of using sugar canes and corn and other plants to make fuel, we would certainly run out of food essential for life. And of course that would also mean there would be far fewer animals if plants and grass becomes scarce. So what would you eat E10 fuel?????? No matter what we do, or how we do, there will be an effect , its a simple thing to understand behind every cause there is an effect, that is how things evolve, one of the major problem we now face is our explosion in population, it is wrongly assumed God will provide infinite amount of resources, but if you convert matter into energy, heat is given off, so matter may not recycle back into earth to continue to support biological life. Heat produced can escape into universe.
Hi. I think this might be a whole other video to go into this. Until we have governments that sing off the same hymn sheet, we might just go round in circles. Hybrid, EV, ethanol, Hydrogen, Alkylates, Solar and whatever new cockamamy idea comes up, I just wonder if I’m retired before we know what the future power supply for the 1.4 billion vehicles will be. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Seems we’re being pushed to get Electric
Hi Andrew. Does seem that way but I can’t see electric surviving. I just don’t think there is adequate raw materials needed to produce what’s needed. Thanks for posting. Nick.
PS E10 is the cheapest bottle of wine in Ireland at €1.49 a liter 😂😂
So, its a bit like peeing into the cells of a battery instead of using distilled water 🤔.
00:05 "Will contain 10% ethanol." - No. *May* contain up to 10% ethanol.
Hi Gary. Since recording, I must agree. Feedback I’ve had from viewers, ethanol content seems to vary wildly. Thanks for posting. Nick
No problem, I just wanted to clarify.
best solution is to buy a $35 ebay LPG and Petrol or dual fuel carb , fit it . gas LPG is safer than petrol .LPG bottles only explode when the bottles are not serviced or stupid people remove the safety , also it never goes bad, after 20 years LPG has not deteriorated at all , as good as when bought . also half the emissions of petrol . mostly water and co2
Hi Paul. Thanks for the info. Hopefully someone will find it useful. Might be fun for me to try that on my mower. Might spoil the warranty though. 😂. Thanks for posting. Nick.
Switch off fuel and let engine run out
There is a simple answer to everything.
If wood chips from the US to feed the Drax power station is regarded as carbon neutral then there is nothing to stop plant oil being used.
For that the new rotary engines from Mazda and Liquid Piston can be easily adjusted to run on that.
So instead of going to a petrol station you go to your local farm to get filled up.
As for the evil ethanol that will just go into the dustbin of history.
Actually, you could probably suggest the best plants to grow to obtain oil.
Just don't use e10, just don't for anything period 😮
Boycott that shyt....I have.
Hi Eric. If I had the option, I would. My only boycott is fuel from supermarket chains. It’s something. Thanks for posting. Nick.
And it's more deadly to humans.
Remove the ethanol, there's a problem with your video it keeps jumping
Very poor editing.
Neve used E10 always used E5 E10 will ruin your engine
We need more CO2 not less , co2 is life 🙌
Anthropogenic "climate change" is fake news. Boycott mass media liars!
Vote them Liberals out of office