He seems to actually like Gale, regardless of Gale's choice. He's surprised if Gale doesn't become a god, but still supports his decision. And he'll be honest with god Gale that he thinks it was a good decision.
technically speaking: does that mean that they're enemies now? Since Astarion wants to rule the world and Wyll... well, the Blade of Frontiers won't let himself be manipulated.
Let's see Astarion try to keep that same energy 60 or even 600 years from now. Those youthful enthusiasms (despite being over 200 years old) will fade fast.
He becomes so unberrable to be around after ascending. I tried assending him while also romancing and boy oh boy did i regret it. Tried playing him like this and after like 6 hours just went "fuck it" and reloaded his dialogue to talk him out of it. Never ascending him again lmao
Exactly the same. I thought, despise all what I read on the net, that Ascension was the best choice, that he finally could be completely free. And this prick was so unbearable after that, even clicking on him to open a chest was a pain in the ass, I just wanted to cut his head, drown him, whatever just to not see his face anymore. And I spent a whole day wondering "do I assume my awful choice and go til the end with this ungrateful little brat, or do I reload ?". I reloaded the very next evening. And by all gods, this was the best decision ever. The relief watching him finally cry after two centuries of suffering, the pride watching him guide "his people" like some Ann Rice's Moses with Cazador's staff... A very powerful scene.
Orange cat behaviour for 10 minutes. Thank you! I could only read the AA for Origins in the script and parser Now it is possible to see all animations of movements and faces
GOSH I adore the fact that ascended or not Astarion really does love his friends. He is always happy for them despite throwing some shade here and there.
Not all heroes wear capes. Some complete 10 playthroughs for non-romanced AA dialogue that I will never get because a) I can't stopped romancing this damn elf and b) I can't go through with ascending him. Thank you
Astarion sounds like someone who feels so empty that constantly has to mention how "happy" he is. His whole demeanor screams "i feel empty", nothing can satisfy him.
Damn I just realized there's a mod like that 😅 thanks for your suggestion, I'll give it a try, and by the way I love your BG3 content, thanks for stopping by to my channel 🍻
WOW, Astarion’s face at 07:30 is easily the most punchable I think I’ve ever seen him! Needed the reminder of how unbearable ascended Astarion is because I was just debating on ascending him in my current playthrough for the power boost (well, that’s why I tell myself at least, but if I’m honest it’s probably more for the newly fixed ascended kisses and the scene where he turns you hehe 😜 Yes, I’m already in therapy lol) Thanks for spending the time to make this vid. I doubt I’d ever get the chance to see it all myself. This is a gift 🩵
The kisses are something else indeed, I'm sure many girls are falling for him just for those scenes 😅 but at the cost of making him this insufferable it's not worth it XD just do a quickload after you saw everything that you wanted to see from this Aholestarion 😂 And I'm glad you love the video, seeing you guys appreciating my videos always makes my heart melt and the struggle of compiling these scenes gone in an instant, thank you so much ❤️
@@DragonsDream No worries! That’s exactly what I plan to do! Thanks for all the time you put into these videos! They’re regularly a part of my everyday and I love when they pop up! Your attention to detail in some of the little background jokes and stuff is awesome 😊
@@stephnicole3078 aww thank you ❤️ my pleasure, I hope I can still keep posting regularly for a few months more for you guys who watched my videos regularly because I don't want to let Baldur's Gate 3 go just yet, this game and the companions is so precious to me personally and you guys too I bet, I'll dread the day when I didn't have anything new to share anymore and we slowly moving on from our beloved companions (for the next Larian game I hope), but I'll always cherish the precious moments we share with them forever ❤️
Imma be honest that’s his most honest face he’s comfortable that’s him flirting you have to see him at the romance afterwards in the bed room that’s the face he makes it’s funny tbh because you see his face do that sometimes it means you’re making him happy or a situation is amusing to him
Actually I am laughing my ass off. He's so savage. And occasionally still has a nice thing to say😂 but yeah, I wouldn't be able to stand him all the time.
Gale and Astarion are probably the most alike of all of the companions (though Gale does a good job of hiding his darker side) so it does kind of make sense, he's the only one who has a comparible journey to the ascend/not ascend decision.
I still cant stop laughing at the fact that ALL of his siblings doged his arrow of many targets at the act 3 camp fight. Like if they experinced that trick before. Like: (jump back in uncine like rockets) NICE ONE ASTARION! We know that one. *dorky finger stap out*
Wow I never saw any of those lines anywhere! They are so good! I love some of those terrible dynamics. Ascended Astarion, god amongst mortals, and Gale God of Arrogance would make for an awful toxic partnership. Also a corrupt Grand Duke Wyll working in the shadows with his old friend the Vampire Ascended would make for some scary mayhem in Baldur's Gate.
Thanks for sharing this! I never would have seen these dialogues otherwise. My one playthrough with an ascended Astarion was with a TAV monk and it was kind of generic banter
Amazing video! Thank you for all your work! What does Astarion say if you as Gale say "I should go and talk to the others?" I am assuming if you ask how he is been he says the "It's been a joy, I have been rediscovering"?
You're welcome, glad you love the video. About that, he says the same thing to everyone: "If you like to spend time with 'them' that's fine." something like that, I didn't remember the exact line 😅
@@PatriciaAncunínBG3 Nah, that's not confidence, he's just an arrogant braggart. People who are secure in themselves and actually confident don't have to constantly tell you how amazing they are. AA is just an evolved version of the self-involved coward that he was originally.
@@yuttasparrow0private Oh, absolutely. If anything, he’s more insecure as AA. As a spawn, his insecurity was tied to Cazador. Astarion was in very real danger and desperate to escape a fate he knew to be worse than death. Add in 200 years of trauma and yeah, none of his early game behavior is at all surprising. But because the source of that insecurity could be eliminated, he could also be freed from it. He could be free, period. It's pretty straightforward and simple. Not easy, of course, but simple. AA, on the other hand, just goes from being a slave to Cazador to being a slave to his “power”. Ascension may be true vampirism with ‘perks’ but it doesn't eliminate the downside of the vampire curse. So he's still destined to become the same "scheming, paranoid, power-hungry beast" he expressed such disdain for. And because a good chunk of that power is based on perception, he needs others to recognize it. That's why he can't/won't shut up about how powerful he is. So now he's also somewhat beholden to the opinions of others, people he probably thinks of as beneath him even as he so desperately wants them to be impressed. Which would be pretty miserable all on its own but that’s just the psychological part. He’s also back to being in physical danger because the sort of ‘power’ he wants won’t be given freely. And though he talks like he can rule the world, in reality there are any number of wizards, quasi-gods, demi-gods, etc. etc. that are still far, far more powerful than he is. I mean, Elminster could probably fell him between bites of cheese. So, his arrogance is likely to get him killed at some point. And to top it all off, he made a deal with a devil for this. An *arch*devil. The whole process required an infernal contract, one he didn’t even read. If you think that’s not going to come back to bite him, you weren't paying attention during the House of Hope. His best hope is that he isn't dragged to the hells where the 7000 souls he sold to Mephistopheles are likely going to want a word. It’s why I find his diverging paths so fascinating and--potentially--so sad. The others all seem to have multiple moments where they can rethink their decision and change course. They make their beds quite willingly. He doesn’t really have that. From a writing perspective, I love it. It's complex and nuanced and just...chef's kiss. But from an empathy perspective, it's damned unfair lol. Also, sorry for the essay. Writing and psychology are two of my nerd triggers 😅
@@The_Half-Elf_Bard Thank you for the detailed answer! I like reading about this topic))) Only I didn't quite understand. But Astarion was a vampire. He is undead. In any case, he has all the disadvantages of vampirism, regardless of whether he performed the ritual or not. On the contrary, performing the ritual returns his feelings, without which Cazador suffered so much (I understood that first of all, Cazador wanted to perform the ritual to return his feelings of the living). But I completely agree that he remained extremely fixated on how others perceive him. Dependence on other people's opinions? And I agree that he is still in danger - maybe later he will get more power, but for now he is certainly much weaker than Elminster and any strong magician or cleric)) Although Spawn is also in danger - of course, he shows off less, but he also has much less power, and there are enough clerics and monster hunters in the world. They do not need a reason to kill a vampire. Regarding the contract - as far as I understand, it's not a contract, it's a ritual that anyone can use. That is, he doesn't have a direct deal with Mephistopheles. But since he's an Atheist, he faces an even worse fate after death(( Thanks again for writing. Now it really seems to me that he's become even less confident. That's why he's always trying to convince everyone how cool he is, and he tries to bite Tav right away, because he's sure that they won't stay with him for long
@@yuttasparrow0private As a vampire spawn, he never lost his feelings because spawn retain their mental faculties. The biggest drawbacks to being a spawn--aside from the usual sun sensitivity, not being able to enter homes, etc.--is the hunger and being under the control of their master. But if a spawn's master dies, their free will returns and even the hunger is impacted to a degree, since that is part of the control. Becoming a true vampire is what destroys the rest of their 'humanity' for lack of a better word. I don't really know why that is but it's part of the curse. For sure a spawn is still in danger but it's Faerun, everyone is kind of in danger lol. But there's less danger as a spawn because no one has it out for him specifically. There's no real reason for anyone new he meets to even know he is a vampire spawn, technically. But as a new vampire lord, ascended or otherwise, he's going to have insta-enemies. Lots of them. He has no spawn to help protect him and if he sets about making a spawn army, that'll just draw even more unwanted attention. Within the rules and such of the universe, there's really no way he lives long enough for his power to grow to a point where he can maybe challenge the likes of Elminster--who has a 13 century headstart on power--or the many, many other powerful monster hunters, wizards, etc. that occupy the realm. As for the ascension itself, you're half right. The ritual/rite isn't the contract. As Raphael explains, the contract is the agreement between Mephistopheles as the contractor and Cazador (or Astarion) as the contractee to exchange souls for power. The archdevil is the source of the power. The Black Mass is what's required to obtain it. It's pretty much a sales contract, with ascension as the product and souls as the payment. Completing the rite is, effectively, signing the contract, at which point Mephistopheles grants the power. So by completing the ritual, Astarion has made a deal, one he didn't even negotiate, with the second most powerful archdevil in the hells. Since Raphael only explained the gist of the contract, Astarion doesn't even know what the full contract entails. And speaking of Raphael, if he's killed in the ascension timeline, I'd imagine things would be even worse for Astarion since Raphael is Mephistopheles' son. Like, you killed his kid either after he gave you power or before you came begging for it? On a scale from 1-10 my friend, you're f*cked. Now, this part is just speculation, but I think spawn Astarion has fairly decent chance at a good hereafter since he's more or less a chosen of Jergal by the end of the game. That's the only god who's ever actually helped him out, so he may even have a bit of faith to fall back on. I mean, it's hard not to be at least a little fond of ol' Bone Man.
@ АХАХХАА у меня духу не хватило просто выбирала колкие речи и плакала из-за того, что тут же пропала «любовь» с его стороны и как он выгнал гг ссанами тряпками. И не смотря на это, что принесла моя героиня такую жертвую. Я немного откатилась и кокнула гг, от чего еще сильней плакала. У меня 2 прохождения (3 только вот начала). В 1 Астарион был отродьем, ну милейший чел, правда пару раз подбешивал, но все же милый, а вот Вознесенный для меня это худший вариант развития для него, имхо
I...I really hope you don't mean you did a fresh restart for all the options...when you could have played until they get their main decision, saved, and then save bumped it along with the other route option. x.x
That must have been a lot of work getting all those lines. Thanks for sharing them with us!! Astarion is well written and brilliantly voice acted, but- other than his funny moments he just wears on me. He's too selfish and whiney for my tastes.
Just leaving this comment here because in your poll on if we still play seemed like you may be giving up a bit hope seeing people already stopping playing I know your channel is BG3 based but you’ve grown a nice following start keeping up with popular games that come out and you will be able to continue to grow your channel
Not gonna lie, I did kinda feel like giving up on hope a bit knowing that the traffic keep decreasing day by day 🥲, but I'm still determined on making more BG3 videos at least until the end of the year, or even beyond that, I know a lot of popular games is worth to cover, but I'm determined to only post RPG-related games in this channel in the long run beyond BG3 so my channel didn't lost its identity 😃 I originally wanted to cover the new Dragon Age, but it breaks my heart knowing the game gets a lot of hate and the dialogue choices gets dumbed down a lot, so I'm not that interested to play the game currently, maybe I'll give it a try one day, as for the planned next game after BG3, I always been a big fan of The Witcher, so the next Witcher game is guaranteed to be shown here (if I'm still around by then ofc 😅) and I love Kingdom Come Deliverance so much, so I will try to cover some KCD2 videos when they released it in february. Anyway, thank you for showing your concern to my channel my friend, you're very kind ❤
@ Definitely! I believe staying in the RPG realm is perfect especially with the fan base now KCD2 and the Witcher will be perfect games for your channel in the future also I’d try new dragon Age always remember for the amount of hate a game gets there still a good group that does like it and wants to see content put out for it. Good luck on all your future endeavors
Everyone is always writing what a terrible monster AA is, but he sincerely misses everyone (almost), engages in ordinary politics (establishing connections?.. and where did "I will conquer the world" go?), throws parties and tells EVERYONE how rich and influential he is now))) Such a cute vampire💘
''oh yes.. hmph.. goodforyou'' Love this energy haha
lmaoooooo, he's such a little shit
Here for the owlbear randomly no clipping in and out of existence in the background the entire time
>finishing 10 origin playthroughs
Very based
You know you can just use EasyCheat and the teleporter and keep changing the Avatar.
Worked hard, but not smart
@@sushles sadly I already tried this and you can't do this in epilogue
"I'm honored your lostness" has me in a choekhold
"And I genuinely mean that."
For the one sentence you can actually hear that hardened mask of ascension slip and I went 👀👀👀
He seems to actually like Gale, regardless of Gale's choice. He's surprised if Gale doesn't become a god, but still supports his decision. And he'll be honest with god Gale that he thinks it was a good decision.
I can’t tell what I love most: him almost seeming jealous of mortal Gale, him laying on the charm so thickly for Wyll, or that veiled threat at 8:55.
technically speaking: does that mean that they're enemies now? Since Astarion wants to rule the world and Wyll... well, the Blade of Frontiers won't let himself be manipulated.
@@teakooh3225 Enemies to lovers let's go
HIS "ah yes good for you" MAKES ME LAUGH SO MUCH EVERY TIME xD Thank you for this
Your long hours in the content mines are appreciated, O' DragonsDream.
Thank you 🥺
The clown makeup xD no AA is complete without it
Let's see Astarion try to keep that same energy 60 or even 600 years from now. Those youthful enthusiasms (despite being over 200 years old) will fade fast.
Bro not the racist Astarion reveal he was so good at hiding it
If you don't mind me asking, which do you mean? =)
@DogsShouldVote about mindflayers with Karlach
@@electricVGC OOoh right! Thank you!
He absolutely was not good at hiding it. Did you not hear what he said about gnomes 💀💀💀
@@roguegamer1173or the gur
0:31 Gale caught me off-guard 😭😭
Surprisingly, Gale's dialogues are the sweetest (:
And the threats to Wyll are the best-hilarious :D
He becomes so unberrable to be around after ascending. I tried assending him while also romancing and boy oh boy did i regret it. Tried playing him like this and after like 6 hours just went "fuck it" and reloaded his dialogue to talk him out of it. Never ascending him again lmao
same lmao i legit just chose its better to fight gortash again then keep having to deal with astarion
This haha
I thought I would bear his personality at first but the “romance” scene was too much for me reloaded IMMEDIATELY 🥶
I’m planning to kick him in the dck
Exactly the same. I thought, despise all what I read on the net, that Ascension was the best choice, that he finally could be completely free. And this prick was so unbearable after that, even clicking on him to open a chest was a pain in the ass, I just wanted to cut his head, drown him, whatever just to not see his face anymore. And I spent a whole day wondering "do I assume my awful choice and go til the end with this ungrateful little brat, or do I reload ?". I reloaded the very next evening. And by all gods, this was the best decision ever. The relief watching him finally cry after two centuries of suffering, the pride watching him guide "his people" like some Ann Rice's Moses with Cazador's staff... A very powerful scene.
Orange cat behaviour for 10 minutes.
Thank you! I could only read the AA for Origins in the script and parser
Now it is possible to see all animations of movements and faces
Lol nice call back on Lae'zel, thanks for reminding me.
And you're welcome, I'm glad I can finally visualize the script for you, thanks for watching
Not all heroes wear capes, thank you for your service Dragon!❤
My pleasure ❤
The clown reveal took me out 💀 Thank you for putting this together!
You're welcome ❤️
4:56 Wow he is actually nice here...
No wonder they get shipped so much
10:31 with Wyll feels very genuinely sweet as well. Even ascended Astarion has a thing for Wyll!
Owlbear appearing in and out of the background is killing me lmao, even as an adult he won't stay still
10 playthroughs without romancing him - that is heroic stoicism 😅
GOSH I adore the fact that ascended or not Astarion really does love his friends. He is always happy for them despite throwing some shade here and there.
Sure lmao
I'm guessing you have issues understanding sarcasm.
The only time he's genuine is the last line. And people still say Wyllstarion isn't canon
He's such a brat. 😂
The commitment to the bit is unreal, great work.
the way he still compliments gale after being so mean to everyone else? bloodweave bros how are we feeling
Damn, he's downright nice to professor Gale, what gives? :D
He probably reminded him of his former lover a long time ago
Not all heroes wear capes. Some complete 10 playthroughs for non-romanced AA dialogue that I will never get because a) I can't stopped romancing this damn elf and b) I can't go through with ascending him. Thank you
Thanks for the video! He’s such an arrogant brat and I love him for that.
lmao AA stands for "Asshole Astarion", he's such a diva. 💅🏻
Astarion is such a twerp.😂
"Do you need to lie down?" with that concerned tone and look towards Laezel is the best... and the owlbear.
Astarion sounds like someone who feels so empty that constantly has to mention how "happy" he is. His whole demeanor screams "i feel empty", nothing can satisfy him.
the dedication is unmatched, holy shit
"ah, yes the war" 💅 he's so annoying 😁❤️
Get the debug book mod. You can get any footage you want easily.
Damn I just realized there's a mod like that 😅 thanks for your suggestion, I'll give it a try, and by the way I love your BG3 content, thanks for stopping by to my channel 🍻
WOW, Astarion’s face at 07:30 is easily the most punchable I think I’ve ever seen him! Needed the reminder of how unbearable ascended Astarion is because I was just debating on ascending him in my current playthrough for the power boost (well, that’s why I tell myself at least, but if I’m honest it’s probably more for the newly fixed ascended kisses and the scene where he turns you hehe 😜 Yes, I’m already in therapy lol) Thanks for spending the time to make this vid. I doubt I’d ever get the chance to see it all myself. This is a gift 🩵
The kisses are something else indeed, I'm sure many girls are falling for him just for those scenes 😅 but at the cost of making him this insufferable it's not worth it XD just do a quickload after you saw everything that you wanted to see from this Aholestarion 😂
And I'm glad you love the video, seeing you guys appreciating my videos always makes my heart melt and the struggle of compiling these scenes gone in an instant, thank you so much ❤️
@@DragonsDream No worries! That’s exactly what I plan to do! Thanks for all the time you put into these videos! They’re regularly a part of my everyday and I love when they pop up! Your attention to detail in some of the little background jokes and stuff is awesome 😊
@@stephnicole3078 aww thank you ❤️ my pleasure, I hope I can still keep posting regularly for a few months more for you guys who watched my videos regularly because I don't want to let Baldur's Gate 3 go just yet, this game and the companions is so precious to me personally and you guys too I bet, I'll dread the day when I didn't have anything new to share anymore and we slowly moving on from our beloved companions (for the next Larian game I hope), but I'll always cherish the precious moments we share with them forever ❤️
Imma be honest that’s his most honest face he’s comfortable that’s him flirting you have to see him at the romance afterwards in the bed room that’s the face he makes it’s funny tbh because you see his face do that sometimes it means you’re making him happy or a situation is amusing to him
The joke about Gale talking so much😂 even Astarion is sick of his yapping
i would have skipped every single one of these dialogues mid sentence
600 hours of gameplay and I've never wanted to stake Astarion until watching this video lol. I knew AA was awful but holy hells is he insufferable.
He reminds me of way too many ex boyfriends
@@AvionBlackstone Dang, sorry you delt with that but glad they're exes.
I think it's torture making him spend the rest of his life as a spawn
Actually I am laughing my ass off. He's so savage. And occasionally still has a nice thing to say😂 but yeah, I wouldn't be able to stand him all the time.
@@JackyCola92 Oh he's absolutely savage. He's also royally screwed, so savagery is pretty much all he has lol.
The random clown makeup 😭
i'm not ascending this guy ever again. couldnt stand him after.
5:20 Ascendant Astarion sounds defensive. I think he's lonely and has regrets.
Drink every time he says "Darling"
Yup, not letting him ascend, not happening.
Astarion is such a well written grief.
He was really nice with both Gale, hardly roasting him. Did the vampire miss the wizard?
Gale and Astarion are probably the most alike of all of the companions (though Gale does a good job of hiding his darker side) so it does kind of make sense, he's the only one who has a comparible journey to the ascend/not ascend decision.
I have been blessed, thank you for the work you put into making this!!
Thank you for all the work and for uploading this.
I only ascended him 1 time and that was for my absolute playthrough. It felt perfect to have him as a slave even after he ascended.
I still cant stop laughing at the fact that ALL of his siblings doged his arrow of many targets at the act 3 camp fight. Like if they experinced that trick before. Like: (jump back in uncine like rockets) NICE ONE ASTARION! We know that one. *dorky finger stap out*
Wow I never saw any of those lines anywhere! They are so good!
I love some of those terrible dynamics. Ascended Astarion, god amongst mortals, and Gale God of Arrogance would make for an awful toxic partnership. Also a corrupt Grand Duke Wyll working in the shadows with his old friend the Vampire Ascended would make for some scary mayhem in Baldur's Gate.
Wow! You put a lot of work into this! Thank you for sharing it with us!
He's hilarious and unbareble at the same time)
Thanks for sharing this! I never would have seen these dialogues otherwise. My one playthrough with an ascended Astarion was with a TAV monk and it was kind of generic banter
You're welcome ❤️
Every time i see that dance😂😂😂😂😂
Spawnstarion/Bear Sandwich for EVER. (not that this isn't fun, you do you...)
Amazing video! Thank you for all your work! What does Astarion say if you as Gale say "I should go and talk to the others?" I am assuming if you ask how he is been he says the "It's been a joy, I have been rediscovering"?
You're welcome, glad you love the video.
About that, he says the same thing to everyone: "If you like to spend time with 'them' that's fine." something like that, I didn't remember the exact line 😅
What the hell is he, I love AA😂😂
I always loved vampires... Astarion ascends in all my playthroughs just because I feel empathy for him ^^
3:13 NOT THE CLOWN MAKEUP HAHAH 😂
This is so funny, thank you for finishing all origins while ascending him.
Glad you enjoyed it!
0:33 god gale just casually pop lockin to himself
- Gaale…
- 🕺🏻💃🏻🕺🏻💃🏻🕺🏻
For me Astarion was always an asshole.
Thanks to Ascension he finally found his balls and confidence.
@@PatriciaAncunínBG3 Nah, that's not confidence, he's just an arrogant braggart. People who are secure in themselves and actually confident don't have to constantly tell you how amazing they are. AA is just an evolved version of the self-involved coward that he was originally.
@@The_Half-Elf_Bard Interesting version! Do you think he is still very insecure?
@@yuttasparrow0private Oh, absolutely. If anything, he’s more insecure as AA. As a spawn, his insecurity was tied to Cazador. Astarion was in very real danger and desperate to escape a fate he knew to be worse than death. Add in 200 years of trauma and yeah, none of his early game behavior is at all surprising. But because the source of that insecurity could be eliminated, he could also be freed from it. He could be free, period. It's pretty straightforward and simple. Not easy, of course, but simple.
AA, on the other hand, just goes from being a slave to Cazador to being a slave to his “power”. Ascension may be true vampirism with ‘perks’ but it doesn't eliminate the downside of the vampire curse. So he's still destined to become the same "scheming, paranoid, power-hungry beast" he expressed such disdain for. And because a good chunk of that power is based on perception, he needs others to recognize it. That's why he can't/won't shut up about how powerful he is. So now he's also somewhat beholden to the opinions of others, people he probably thinks of as beneath him even as he so desperately wants them to be impressed.
Which would be pretty miserable all on its own but that’s just the psychological part. He’s also back to being in physical danger because the sort of ‘power’ he wants won’t be given freely. And though he talks like he can rule the world, in reality there are any number of wizards, quasi-gods, demi-gods, etc. etc. that are still far, far more powerful than he is. I mean, Elminster could probably fell him between bites of cheese. So, his arrogance is likely to get him killed at some point.
And to top it all off, he made a deal with a devil for this. An *arch*devil. The whole process required an infernal contract, one he didn’t even read. If you think that’s not going to come back to bite him, you weren't paying attention during the House of Hope. His best hope is that he isn't dragged to the hells where the 7000 souls he sold to Mephistopheles are likely going to want a word.
It’s why I find his diverging paths so fascinating and--potentially--so sad. The others all seem to have multiple moments where they can rethink their decision and change course. They make their beds quite willingly. He doesn’t really have that. From a writing perspective, I love it. It's complex and nuanced and just...chef's kiss. But from an empathy perspective, it's damned unfair lol.
Also, sorry for the essay. Writing and psychology are two of my nerd triggers 😅
@@The_Half-Elf_Bard Thank you for the detailed answer! I like reading about this topic))) Only I didn't quite understand. But Astarion was a vampire. He is undead. In any case, he has all the disadvantages of vampirism, regardless of whether he performed the ritual or not. On the contrary, performing the ritual returns his feelings, without which Cazador suffered so much (I understood that first of all, Cazador wanted to perform the ritual to return his feelings of the living).
But I completely agree that he remained extremely fixated on how others perceive him. Dependence on other people's opinions? And I agree that he is still in danger - maybe later he will get more power, but for now he is certainly much weaker than Elminster and any strong magician or cleric)) Although Spawn is also in danger - of course, he shows off less, but he also has much less power, and there are enough clerics and monster hunters in the world. They do not need a reason to kill a vampire.
Regarding the contract - as far as I understand, it's not a contract, it's a ritual that anyone can use. That is, he doesn't have a direct deal with Mephistopheles. But since he's an Atheist, he faces an even worse fate after death((
Thanks again for writing. Now it really seems to me that he's become even less confident. That's why he's always trying to convince everyone how cool he is, and he tries to bite Tav right away, because he's sure that they won't stay with him for long
@@yuttasparrow0private As a vampire spawn, he never lost his feelings because spawn retain their mental faculties. The biggest drawbacks to being a spawn--aside from the usual sun sensitivity, not being able to enter homes, etc.--is the hunger and being under the control of their master. But if a spawn's master dies, their free will returns and even the hunger is impacted to a degree, since that is part of the control. Becoming a true vampire is what destroys the rest of their 'humanity' for lack of a better word. I don't really know why that is but it's part of the curse.
For sure a spawn is still in danger but it's Faerun, everyone is kind of in danger lol. But there's less danger as a spawn because no one has it out for him specifically. There's no real reason for anyone new he meets to even know he is a vampire spawn, technically. But as a new vampire lord, ascended or otherwise, he's going to have insta-enemies. Lots of them. He has no spawn to help protect him and if he sets about making a spawn army, that'll just draw even more unwanted attention. Within the rules and such of the universe, there's really no way he lives long enough for his power to grow to a point where he can maybe challenge the likes of Elminster--who has a 13 century headstart on power--or the many, many other powerful monster hunters, wizards, etc. that occupy the realm.
As for the ascension itself, you're half right. The ritual/rite isn't the contract. As Raphael explains, the contract is the agreement between Mephistopheles as the contractor and Cazador (or Astarion) as the contractee to exchange souls for power. The archdevil is the source of the power. The Black Mass is what's required to obtain it. It's pretty much a sales contract, with ascension as the product and souls as the payment. Completing the rite is, effectively, signing the contract, at which point Mephistopheles grants the power. So by completing the ritual, Astarion has made a deal, one he didn't even negotiate, with the second most powerful archdevil in the hells. Since Raphael only explained the gist of the contract, Astarion doesn't even know what the full contract entails.
And speaking of Raphael, if he's killed in the ascension timeline, I'd imagine things would be even worse for Astarion since Raphael is Mephistopheles' son. Like, you killed his kid either after he gave you power or before you came begging for it? On a scale from 1-10 my friend, you're f*cked.
Now, this part is just speculation, but I think spawn Astarion has fairly decent chance at a good hereafter since he's more or less a chosen of Jergal by the end of the game. That's the only god who's ever actually helped him out, so he may even have a bit of faith to fall back on. I mean, it's hard not to be at least a little fond of ol' Bone Man.
SO very Frank N. Furter.
Though I love UA so much, AA really is living his best life. ❤
He sounds and act like a movie producer and I hate it with a passion 😂
This is amazing thank you
Glad you like it!
WORTH IT
thanks!
Please do this for Professor Gale!!
Absolutely not. You will never ascend as long as I can save scum.
Вознесенный Астарион хоть и та ещё сучка, но его колкости это золото ! (Кроме Тав, который\ая пожертвовала собой, став иллитидом)
с другой стороны, стать иллитидом стоит хотя бы ради того, чтобы сожрать его мозг за лишнюю болтовню 🙏🏻
@ АХАХХАА у меня духу не хватило просто выбирала колкие речи и плакала из-за того, что тут же пропала «любовь» с его стороны и как он выгнал гг ссанами тряпками. И не смотря на это, что принесла моя героиня такую жертвую. Я немного откатилась и кокнула гг, от чего еще сильней плакала. У меня 2 прохождения (3 только вот начала). В 1 Астарион был отродьем, ну милейший чел, правда пару раз подбешивал, но все же милый, а вот Вознесенный для меня это худший вариант развития для него, имхо
Which mod did you use to display the heart necklace on Shadowheart?
It's the glowing necklace mod on nexus 👍🏻
I...I really hope you don't mean you did a fresh restart for all the options...when you could have played until they get their main decision, saved, and then save bumped it along with the other route option. x.x
i love astarion and gale sm😭🩷
More motivation to never ascend him, I cannot stand him like this 😭 I romance him every time and every times he stays a spawn lol
That must have been a lot of work getting all those lines. Thanks for sharing them with us!! Astarion is well written and brilliantly voice acted, but- other than his funny moments he just wears on me. He's too selfish and whiney for my tastes.
Kind of unrelated but what hair do you use for wyll?
What would happen if Astarion bites Gale as a god?
Just leaving this comment here because in your poll on if we still play seemed like you may be giving up a bit hope seeing people already stopping playing I know your channel is BG3 based but you’ve grown a nice following start keeping up with popular games that come out and you will be able to continue to grow your channel
Not gonna lie, I did kinda feel like giving up on hope a bit knowing that the traffic keep decreasing day by day 🥲, but I'm still determined on making more BG3 videos at least until the end of the year, or even beyond that, I know a lot of popular games is worth to cover, but I'm determined to only post RPG-related games in this channel in the long run beyond BG3 so my channel didn't lost its identity 😃 I originally wanted to cover the new Dragon Age, but it breaks my heart knowing the game gets a lot of hate and the dialogue choices gets dumbed down a lot, so I'm not that interested to play the game currently, maybe I'll give it a try one day, as for the planned next game after BG3, I always been a big fan of The Witcher, so the next Witcher game is guaranteed to be shown here (if I'm still around by then ofc 😅) and I love Kingdom Come Deliverance so much, so I will try to cover some KCD2 videos when they released it in february. Anyway, thank you for showing your concern to my channel my friend, you're very kind ❤
@ Definitely! I believe staying in the RPG realm is perfect especially with the fan base now KCD2 and the Witcher will be perfect games for your channel in the future also I’d try new dragon Age always remember for the amount of hate a game gets there still a good group that does like it and wants to see content put out for it. Good luck on all your future endeavors
@@king2ill this means a lot, thank you
0:15 amongus
Ascendend Astarion Forever
was that a joke ...do you need to lie down
LOL
I severely dislike Astarion. Ascended and spawn.
Everyone is always writing what a terrible monster AA is, but he sincerely misses everyone (almost), engages in ordinary politics (establishing connections?.. and where did "I will conquer the world" go?), throws parties and tells EVERYONE how rich and influential he is now))) Such a cute vampire💘
Yeeeeahhh he's gonna kill em all lololol
Nah, he looks way cooler with a stake jammed through that small fossilized pebble of a heart I'd say.
@ It's your business))
Were you watching the video at all?
@ Yes. Do you like asking stupid questions? :)
To me, it felt like AA was the nicest to Wyll, he's still an ass hat....good video either way
Ascended Astarion is just awful! :)