ScoPay made the ViDar to kill borg. Thats where the Buff should land. But then lower level and FTP could compete with the 40+. That makes no $$$ for ScoPAY.
Hi Rev. Long time viewer first time commenter. I'm ops 32 and just killed a load of solo Borg Armadas. Tier 9 Sala with jadzia crew. Sisko crew on tier 8 bortas. 5 6 7 crew on tier 9 vidar. Crewed below decks for max health. As that boosts the mitigation of those crews. Max stats on bortas and sala also. Finally I used a health exocomp and Armadas damage exo. Cloaked the bortas. It worked! Let me know if you want screenshots for this epic punch up strategy. Very light spender. Was FTP until 2 months ago.
Rev: Check out my math. Look at the numbers. This is how it works. Lar the Pakled: I smash small Death Star. Good vid Rev. I personally just used my JemSoloMada loadouts. They smash smart
I was wondering what the best way to take down the death star(s) was. I spent 40 mins looking for exhaust pipes. HAHA made my comment during the loading commercial. Glad to know its not just me.
Scopley should have limited access to the Solo borg Armadas to people who have Tier 9 Vidars instead of putting out the ridiculous 167k charged nanoprobes price and 17 days of draws to get one solo armada if you have a tier 1-8 vidar
Hey thanks for this!!! I just recrewed based on your suggestions and handily beat a 45 borg solo as a high end-ops 42 player with only 1 G4 ship (T6 Valdore). I'd tried earlier using dominion solo crews and wiped HARD :)
Thanks, helpful explanations. Btw, love the ones that have big ships and say it's easy!! For me, finally managed to take down 42 solo rares, with one crew change (instead of Geordi crew, I used Riker, Beverly and Worf; no Bashir for me). So, lvl 38, ent, augur, d4, 30 dmg exo + 50 health crew exo and cerittos for all 3.
@jtsandusky1 I came to the same conclusion last night, and it worked for me. It does mean that your 3rd ship does basically nothing except loot and hull breach. Having hull breach on your lowest mitigation ship means that it'll likely die first - and when it does, no more hull breach. That being said, it gives the DS9 crewed ship a massive boost to its crit rate, so you'll probably take the thing out even faster - provided DS9 is on your best ship. By round 3 you're nearing a 50% crit rate, with stackable shot increase and hull breach up, it'll tear through
About the Jellyfish, it does get that bonus of 15% damage increase every round. If you add that to the 35K bonus that is going to add up big by the end of the battle.
My borg refinery tab is messed up. I have maxed vi'dar, yet I only get to trade 10k charged nanos for 6 directives. Scopely is doing absolutely nothing about it. I lost out on rewards from solo armada events because I wasn't getting the directives I should've been, and therefor couldn't do the events to get the rewards.
Hi Rev, In your video you mentioned, that LVL35 player are doing level 41 borg solo. I really would like to know theirs crew, ship level as for me it is impossible task atm. Fe. atm I do have almost all research done except outlaw. I have all 3 epic ships. But still no chance same as with Bajoran.
This was a good feature but the added grind for nanoprobes makes it all for nothing not doing more grind a daily chest would have been much needed for directives.
yes rev i agree 100% the defiant should've been there instead of the iss. it makes no sense, if they want to boost the iss then they should make a seperate research option for it.
Hahahahaha!!!! I had the exact same question! I understand Jelly needs be there because it is after all a hostile oriented ship but it is not of a faction, but not having Defiant defies all my understanding of where they were going to. Also, why the heck do they not have the equivalent for the vi'dar and vi'dar research to increase its measly low warp range???? Why does it feel like the Vi'Dar was completely forgotten??? Are we going to get a Vi'Dar-A????
I appreciate being able to use my Jelly. Warp 80 excludes g3 epics from anything above 41s unless you can disco in, so I’ve been using loot crews T8 augur Sisko/Miles/5, t4 Jelly Geordi/Bev/Picard, Franklin A J/Lorca/GG. Gets me about 30k loot each compared to stated loot of 17.5k or so. Ops 41.
yes, defiant for borg solo armadas. the ship was literally designed to fight the borg by the federation, we want the defiant, Sisko mentions it when the defiant is introduced, it is freaking canon.
Good point.... USS Defiant was made to battle the BORG!!!!!!!!!!! Or might as well make it the USS Sovereign research eh lol TY for the video and LLAP Rev Deuce!
The jelly is there as most level 39 and up has 1 and till they can get to ops 42 and get a bigger faction ship it has its uses. The defiant should definitely get a research as well but then again that might be the plan for it next arc when some of the f2p might be unlocking it.
Is the Defiant possibly covered as a Federation ship? Yes I know you can’t get it through the Federation faction store…. But it is a Federation ship in the lore. Question is…. Is it coded as a Federation ship.
I used Augur tier 5 with 7,5, Khan, tier 9 Vidar with Miles, Sisko, Lorca & Talios , tier 1 Talios with Beverly, La Forge, Julian didn't even scratch a lv 35 sphere
Not only did the game make the Defiant for fighting solo armadas, in the Star Trek universe the Defiant was created by the Federation to fight the Borg. It was only used in DS9 to fight the Dominion because they needed a good combat ship to have on hand without having a whole other and crew added to the show. One complaint I have about how this was rolled out is they did not make it clear in the event instructions for the solo armada event that you needed to complete the research FIRST. Some players wasted directives trying to beat these armada‘s without doing the research. Some players didn’t even know the research was there until after they lost and then went looking for an explanation as to why.
So far borg solos are fairly easy, get the new techs use hull breach. Cerritos if you want easy peezy. Using t4 ktinga with t6 d4 and maxed Aug taking down 46s and 47s fairly easy
Is it possible for an OP 33 player to be able to take down a 35 Borg Sphere with the faction level 28 ships? And possible substitiions for Bashir and Five?
Don't forget the research only affects ships fighting the new borg armadas. It doesn't work against probes. It probably doesn't work against the old borg armadas but I havent tested that yet.
Rev, I'm 37 with a T7 Augur. Should I always have Georgiou as an officer to get the burning ( to help Obliterate)? Or go with Gordi, Crusher, Miles as you suggested?
Hey Rev, on an unrelated note: did Scopely forget we have a subspace relay station, or...? I haven't seen any way to get more relays, free or paid, and I haven't been able to move forward with upgrading it in a looooooooooong time.
Thanks for the video rev. Gotta say I'm not feeling the love for learning strategies for this, just seems like more work for something that's really hidden behind another pay wall.
@@RevDeuce you have to buy these armada credits to have a realistic chance of competing or even completing events, unless you want every armada to go perfectly each time and to spend hours each day grinding borg probes.
@@vikroy3777 This exactly! Why do they launch new stuff that we should be able to experiment with but leave us no margin for error if we want to complete the milestones?
You mean the vessel that was a prototype to counter the Borg does nothing against Borg? Well, that explains why the Defiant was used exclusively in DS9...
The battle won’t last long enough for Augur’s ability to matter. These armadas last only a couple rounds, and the obliterated fires every 3 rounds. Plus the damage boost operates on the base damage, not after the 35000% boost. So even when it procs it won’t move the needle. The bridge spot can be better utilized by someone else imo.
If the USS Defiant is a Federation ship, then it should be covered under the Federation Translink research. So a seperate Defiant research isn't needed. Correct?
Hi, I've been searching for the recent updated video about Ops lvl 35 vs solo borg armadas. The one where @RevDeuce was looking snazzy with a vest & tie [Quake Voice: IMPRESSIVE] work interrupted my viewing & I can't find it now‽ Halp
I appreciate the tree says the research works on spheres..... but if it turns my faction ships into vidars, can I send my hydra farming Borg probes? I pull 900k per run with vidar but need to cash 1 mill per day....
The obliterator weapon only works with burning right? If i kind of need all power i can get, riker instead of Geordi? Who uses the enterprise kirk is mandatory right? Thanks in advance
The weapon fires without burning, it's the ship ability that requires burning (which applies a damage bonus if there is burning in effect when the Obliterator fires).
Help! I have Admiral Kirk but never got the Kirk Quantum Key. Can anyone help? Did I miss something? Put in a ticket but have not heard back from Scopely. PS Combat for ISS Jelly but not including the Defiant VS Borg is nuts. Also PLEASE add higher level Borg probe systems, PLEASE!!
6of11 at least gets the benefit of your piercing bonuses applied on top, Changeling Kira does not. She's generally too slow to be useful for other armadas because of how long it takes her to lower their stats, higher mitigation stats means she'd be even slower to be useful.
Why would you use Lorca on the Ktinga with Sisko and Miles instead of Gorkon? Reasonably long fights that dont need to worry about the first round benefit of Lorca vs. Gorkon. Gorkon will be a more reliable hull breach generator with Sisko boosting crit chance and Miles taking lots of shots on goal. My Gorkon also has been maxed a long time compared to Lorca who is tough to grow, in terms of stats.
ISS Jelly makes perfect sense, it's not a faction ship, and is in use by a large proprtion of the player base, where as the Defiant is a federation ship.
It can be! BUT, that doesn't mean it SHOULD be, if that makes sense. For example: Taking the ISS Jelly to t5 will cost (raw) 48K UC Gas and 26K UC Ore PLUS 106K UC Explorer parts (this latter is a HUGE painpoint in the 40s. Ship parts are the worst). This only gets you to Warp 80 and is a significant investment. Defiant at t3 (lvl 39) is 385 3* gas and 1120 3* Crystal with warp 80. Let's take the defiant out of it. Let's just look at 3* epics and specialty ships. Frank-A, Feesha, Disco, Amalgam, etc. can all push you past the W80 barrier for cheap. 3* epics don't affect the 4* economy at all cost wise and don't have to worry about ship parts. A T7-T9 ENT/AUG/etc. will almost always outperform an ISS Jellyfish until that jelly gets to T7+ (which costs 292k UC Explorer parts, 65.5K Ore and 129K gas) in PVE/Armadas/ESPECIALLY PVP. Should be noted Jelly can be effective in Armadas, but still will get outclassed by most other ships. (especially shorter armada fights). So this is why a lot of us content creators down the Jellyfish so much. YES, definitely unlock it so you can get the ISS Jellybrawl mission for level 39+. But long term and short term the Jellyfish can slow down your gameplay significantly if people start investing into it. What happens then is they either have to spend to get out of the hole or spent a lot more time catching up.
Yeah that never made any sense to me either a year out I just got to this video but I always said why was the tis jelly why couldn't it have been the defiance maybe the Kelvin something else a little bit more kick to it
Rev the only reason the Jellyfish makes sense to me is because it really isn't a faction ship as I understand it. That said, I agree they should have the Defiant as well.
Wonder if I could manage the 44 uncs... Saw some 42 ships getting hammered on discord, which I don't have yet so risky. The 41s I beat with almost no damage in just 4 rounds using similar crews as you. stat stacking is not a problem, 30k health (before exos) is achiavable for mitigation officers. Shame the 46 system has such a high warp range, but disco can help with that (albeit too expensive on the long run tho).
The Obliterator weapon still fires without burning, it's just that when there's burning in effect it adds a damage bonus (which for these will be basically nothing).
Damage bonus from the Augur ship ability wouldn't matter with the level of bonuses, and the 1% background damage doesn't is certainly a large number it's not particularly significant when you're killing them in 8 rounds (so 7 rounds of burn - about 29m total damage, while my T4 Newton is doing breach crits of 55m+ in 1 shot).
Still no Defiant... so i would think the Jelly could be the "logic" F2P option??? Maybe. Although the Defiant has that (long) F2P sourcing... still... Logics...
Scopely should have added a defiant research to make it effective vs the borg. The Defiant was made in Star Trek to defeat the Borg. Make it So....
ScoPay made the ViDar to kill borg. Thats where the Buff should land.
But then lower level and FTP could compete with the 40+. That makes no $$$ for ScoPAY.
YES
This
You are absolutely correct. Defiant Was for borg
Only in this game, USS Defiant isn't considered a Federation ship.
Better question: why isn't the defiant counted under fed ships?
YES
Because it is a specialty ship, just like the cerritos isn't a fed ship for research purposes.
In cannon, the whole reason the Defiant was originally designed was to fight the Borg.
Best tip, set S foils to attack positions, stay on target, then use the force.
Hi Rev. Long time viewer first time commenter. I'm ops 32 and just killed a load of solo Borg Armadas. Tier 9 Sala with jadzia crew. Sisko crew on tier 8 bortas. 5 6 7 crew on tier 9 vidar. Crewed below decks for max health. As that boosts the mitigation of those crews. Max stats on bortas and sala also. Finally I used a health exocomp and Armadas damage exo. Cloaked the bortas. It worked! Let me know if you want screenshots for this epic punch up strategy.
Very light spender. Was FTP until 2 months ago.
Wow, just turned 32, but don't have Jadzia or Sisko.....
Rev: Check out my math. Look at the numbers. This is how it works.
Lar the Pakled: I smash small Death Star.
Good vid Rev. I personally just used my JemSoloMada loadouts. They smash smart
I agree that there should be a similar defiant research. I do however use the jellyfish currently as it is one of my top 3 ships at ops42
I was wondering what the best way to take down the death star(s) was. I spent 40 mins looking for exhaust pipes. HAHA made my comment during the loading commercial. Glad to know its not just me.
Scopley should have limited access to the Solo borg Armadas to people who have Tier 9 Vidars instead of putting out the ridiculous 167k charged nanoprobes price and 17 days of draws to get one solo armada if you have a tier 1-8 vidar
Yes! Or at least fix the armada sourcing!
it costs just under 2 days of charged nanos. T9 charge nanos,15K per day. One solo mada costs 28K.
@@zolartan4442 if you are below tier 9 it takes 12 days of pulls and 166k charged nano particles to get one armada
dang, wish I knew about the researches yesterday! Makes so much of a difference!
Hey thanks for this!!! I just recrewed based on your suggestions and handily beat a 45 borg solo as a high end-ops 42 player with only 1 G4 ship (T6 Valdore). I'd tried earlier using dominion solo crews and wiped HARD :)
Thanks, helpful explanations. Btw, love the ones that have big ships and say it's easy!! For me, finally managed to take down 42 solo rares, with one crew change (instead of Geordi crew, I used Riker, Beverly and Worf; no Bashir for me). So, lvl 38, ent, augur, d4, 30 dmg exo + 50 health crew exo and cerittos for all 3.
TL;DR - executive summary:
Remember:
1. Every ship needs to be doing a critical
2. Boost your mitigation stats
Rev's load out (28M strength vs 503.5M, lvl 48 sphere)
* Val - 5, 7 (Health), Khan
* Katinga - Sisko, Miles, Lorca (Critical/Mitigation build)
* Or Sisko, Miles, Bashir
* Auger - Jordi (mitigation), Bev, Bashir (critical, or Data)
Zhou on Enterprise
Thank you for writing this out. I was trying to make notes as he talked but I kept losing my place in the video.
*Augur - Geordi (loot), Bev (mitigation), Bashir (crit chance)
Would putting Bashir with Sisco for synergy and Lorca with Jordi/Bev be more effective?
@jtsandusky1 I came to the same conclusion last night, and it worked for me. It does mean that your 3rd ship does basically nothing except loot and hull breach. Having hull breach on your lowest mitigation ship means that it'll likely die first - and when it does, no more hull breach. That being said, it gives the DS9 crewed ship a massive boost to its crit rate, so you'll probably take the thing out even faster - provided DS9 is on your best ship. By round 3 you're nearing a 50% crit rate, with stackable shot increase and hull breach up, it'll tear through
I agree that the Defiant should have been included in the research tree for Borg solo armadas.
Good I love how Borg solo armada directives are free to play sourcing.
Events and daily missions not registering but i see from alliance awards the buying of packs still works... scopely made sure that works 100%
About the Jellyfish, it does get that bonus of 15% damage increase every round. If you add that to the 35K bonus that is going to add up big by the end of the battle.
My borg refinery tab is messed up. I have maxed vi'dar, yet I only get to trade 10k charged nanos for 6 directives. Scopely is doing absolutely nothing about it. I lost out on rewards from solo armada events because I wasn't getting the directives I should've been, and therefor couldn't do the events to get the rewards.
1:44 the ISS Jelly research should be enable Anti Borg Weapons for all non-faction ships ...
Wish i seen this before my two fails 😕 thx 4 the info.
Feel ya
yep...this should have been out sooner. many already wasted directives trying to figure out what crews to use
Hi Rev,
In your video you mentioned, that LVL35 player are doing level 41 borg solo.
I really would like to know theirs crew, ship level as for me it is impossible task atm.
Fe. atm I do have almost all research done except outlaw. I have all 3 epic ships. But still no chance same as with Bajoran.
This was a good feature but the added grind for nanoprobes makes it all for nothing not doing more grind a daily chest would have been much needed for directives.
I’d care about the defiant if I had one. Maybe in another couple of months? 🤷♀️
Months? Maybe a year for me it seems.
yes rev i agree 100% the defiant should've been there instead of the iss. it makes no sense, if they want to boost the iss then they should make a seperate research option for it.
Hahahahaha!!!! I had the exact same question! I understand Jelly needs be there because it is after all a hostile oriented ship but it is not of a faction, but not having Defiant defies all my understanding of where they were going to.
Also, why the heck do they not have the equivalent for the vi'dar and vi'dar research to increase its measly low warp range????
Why does it feel like the Vi'Dar was completely forgotten??? Are we going to get a Vi'Dar-A????
I appreciate being able to use my Jelly. Warp 80 excludes g3 epics from anything above 41s unless you can disco in, so I’ve been using loot crews T8 augur Sisko/Miles/5, t4 Jelly Geordi/Bev/Picard, Franklin A J/Lorca/GG. Gets me about 30k loot each compared to stated loot of 17.5k or so. Ops 41.
Data is brilliant i got him from scopley when they gave a full unlock last year.
Great vid! I'm loving those critical builds.
Glad you like them!
yes, defiant for borg solo armadas. the ship was literally designed to fight the borg by the federation, we want the defiant, Sisko mentions it when the defiant is introduced, it is freaking canon.
Another common officer that becomes really nice here is 8 of 11 since her w/ synergy can do crazy Borg crits.
Good point.... USS Defiant was made to battle the BORG!!!!!!!!!!! Or might as well make it the USS Sovereign research eh lol TY for the video and LLAP Rev Deuce!
The jelly is there as most level 39 and up has 1 and till they can get to ops 42 and get a bigger faction ship it has its uses. The defiant should definitely get a research as well but then again that might be the plan for it next arc when some of the f2p might be unlocking it.
Is the Defiant possibly covered as a Federation ship? Yes I know you can’t get it through the Federation faction store…. But it is a Federation ship in the lore. Question is…. Is it coded as a Federation ship.
Specialty ships don't get faction bonus, asdly.
Have to agree..why not the defiant?
I used Augur tier 5 with 7,5, Khan, tier 9 Vidar with Miles, Sisko, Lorca & Talios , tier 1 Talios with Beverly, La Forge, Julian didn't even scratch a lv 35 sphere
Thank you rev it really does work, wish I could upload the ss
Glad to help
Not only did the game make the Defiant for fighting solo armadas, in the Star Trek universe the Defiant was created by the Federation to fight the Borg. It was only used in DS9 to fight the Dominion because they needed a good combat ship to have on hand without having a whole other and crew added to the show.
One complaint I have about how this was rolled out is they did not make it clear in the event instructions for the solo armada event that you needed to complete the research FIRST. Some players wasted directives trying to beat these armada‘s without doing the research. Some players didn’t even know the research was there until after they lost and then went looking for an explanation as to why.
So far borg solos are fairly easy, get the new techs use hull breach. Cerritos if you want easy peezy. Using t4 ktinga with t6 d4 and maxed Aug taking down 46s and 47s fairly easy
The defiant should be a fed faction ship
You're not wrong, but non of the specialty ships are associated to a faction as far as I am aware.
Is it possible for an OP 33 player to be able to take down a 35 Borg Sphere with the faction level 28 ships? And possible substitiions for Bashir and Five?
Don't forget the research only affects ships fighting the new borg armadas. It doesn't work against probes. It probably doesn't work against the old borg armadas but I havent tested that yet.
Yep should have totally been the Defiant. Even the writeup on the defiant says so.
Rev, I'm 37 with a T7 Augur. Should I always have Georgiou as an officer to get the burning ( to help Obliterate)? Or go with Gordi, Crusher, Miles as you suggested?
Great. L45 solo armada... but only L33 probes... exocomp is not long enough to significantly reduce the grind.
Hey Rev, on an unrelated note: did Scopely forget we have a subspace relay station, or...? I haven't seen any way to get more relays, free or paid, and I haven't been able to move forward with upgrading it in a looooooooooong time.
You get the upgrade materials from incursion events. We just haven't had one in awhile.
Basically yes. I've been griping about this for months
Thanks for the video rev. Gotta say I'm not feeling the love for learning strategies for this, just seems like more work for something that's really hidden behind another pay wall.
What's the paywall, exactly?
@@RevDeuce you have to buy these armada credits to have a realistic chance of competing or even completing events, unless you want every armada to go perfectly each time and to spend hours each day grinding borg probes.
@@vikroy3777 This exactly! Why do they launch new stuff that we should be able to experiment with but leave us no margin for error if we want to complete the milestones?
Defiant is covered by the Fed translink disruptor?
You mean the vessel that was a prototype to counter the Borg does nothing against Borg? Well, that explains why the Defiant was used exclusively in DS9...
YES, the Defiant should be allowed for all solo armadas!!
Wouldn't it be better to add Georgiou on the Augur to increase the Obliterator damage? Perhaps Bev, Bashir, Georgiou?
The battle won’t last long enough for Augur’s ability to matter. These armadas last only a couple rounds, and the obliterated fires every 3 rounds. Plus the damage boost operates on the base damage, not after the 35000% boost. So even when it procs it won’t move the needle.
The bridge spot can be better utilized by someone else imo.
Is there a new Borg Solo armada video, or is this meta still valid?
If the USS Defiant is a Federation ship, then it should be covered under the Federation Translink research. So a seperate Defiant research isn't needed. Correct?
Isn't the defiant a Fed ship? (And the ISS Jelly is factionless?) This way everything is covered, right?
It's not a fed ship because the Defiant isn't in the faction store. Same reason the franklin/A isn't a faction ship
^ Bingo. Specialty ships don't get faction bonus'
Hell the Defiant per canon was built to go Borg Smashing. Unless its the Mirror Defiant.. then its for Klingon/Cardie smashing.
What officers can be used to replace Sisko, Miles and Bashir? I wasn't able to get them when they first came out.
Hi, I've been searching for the recent updated video about Ops lvl 35 vs solo borg armadas. The one where @RevDeuce was looking snazzy with a vest & tie [Quake Voice: IMPRESSIVE] work interrupted my viewing & I can't find it now‽ Halp
Does the Vi'dar get a further increase of damage against the borg if you get the Rimulan Translink Disruptor?
I appreciate the tree says the research works on spheres..... but if it turns my faction ships into vidars, can I send my hydra farming Borg probes? I pull 900k per run with vidar but need to cash 1 mill per day....
Not showing the Translink research in my Combat panel????? I'm Lvl 44. What am i missing here?
I agree the iss jelly should not be there but dident the deffient fail miserably against the borg ?
The obliterator weapon only works with burning right? If i kind of need all power i can get, riker instead of Geordi? Who uses the enterprise kirk is mandatory right? Thanks in advance
The weapon fires without burning, it's the ship ability that requires burning (which applies a damage bonus if there is burning in effect when the Obliterator fires).
Help! I have Admiral Kirk but never got the Kirk Quantum Key. Can anyone help? Did I miss something? Put in a ticket but have not heard back from Scopely. PS Combat for ISS Jelly but not including the Defiant VS Borg is nuts. Also PLEASE add higher level Borg probe systems, PLEASE!!
Look in your refinery.
I don't have unlocked Bashir, short on 2 bp more. Are there any other officers as an alternative.
Would this research make all ships now good against the mega cube?
Defiant was developed to fight the Borg (Scopely even acknowledges this in the ships tool tip). #fail
Defiant research yes, but ISS Jelly does need improvements.
And what about a max loot video @rev ?
Has Changelin Kira been tested to try to overcome the Borgmada's defensive stats?
6of11 at least gets the benefit of your piercing bonuses applied on top, Changeling Kira does not. She's generally too slow to be useful for other armadas because of how long it takes her to lower their stats, higher mitigation stats means she'd be even slower to be useful.
Why would you use Lorca on the Ktinga with Sisko and Miles instead of Gorkon? Reasonably long fights that dont need to worry about the first round benefit of Lorca vs. Gorkon. Gorkon will be a more reliable hull breach generator with Sisko boosting crit chance and Miles taking lots of shots on goal. My Gorkon also has been maxed a long time compared to Lorca who is tough to grow, in terms of stats.
Depends on what tier your Lorca is (same as Gigi vs Nero), but with most of my fights being 6-8 rounds, Lorca is more consistent for me.
ISS Jelly makes perfect sense, it's not a faction ship, and is in use by a large proprtion of the player base, where as the Defiant is a federation ship.
Defiant is a specialty ships. Those don't get faction research bonus'
@@RevDeuce Is that right? Didn't know that. Cheers. Good info for when i get mine by the years end
Ur Awesome buddy :) cheers
With your load out. Would swapping Lorca for data and having full synergy with sisko and Geordi be beneficial?
No, Lorca makes a huge difference as he make every crit by every ship do 180% damage. Every armada should have a Lorca
you gave a lot of info but what I want is various examples of crews
I would guess for a lot of 39-41 even some to the mid4os the iss jelly is one of their best ships
It can be! BUT, that doesn't mean it SHOULD be, if that makes sense. For example:
Taking the ISS Jelly to t5 will cost (raw) 48K UC Gas and 26K UC Ore PLUS 106K UC Explorer parts (this latter is a HUGE painpoint in the 40s. Ship parts are the worst). This only gets you to Warp 80 and is a significant investment. Defiant at t3 (lvl 39) is 385 3* gas and 1120 3* Crystal with warp 80.
Let's take the defiant out of it. Let's just look at 3* epics and specialty ships. Frank-A, Feesha, Disco, Amalgam, etc. can all push you past the W80 barrier for cheap. 3* epics don't affect the 4* economy at all cost wise and don't have to worry about ship parts.
A T7-T9 ENT/AUG/etc. will almost always outperform an ISS Jellyfish until that jelly gets to T7+ (which costs 292k UC Explorer parts, 65.5K Ore and 129K gas) in PVE/Armadas/ESPECIALLY PVP. Should be noted Jelly can be effective in Armadas, but still will get outclassed by most other ships. (especially shorter armada fights).
So this is why a lot of us content creators down the Jellyfish so much. YES, definitely unlock it so you can get the ISS Jellybrawl mission for level 39+. But long term and short term the Jellyfish can slow down your gameplay significantly if people start investing into it. What happens then is they either have to spend to get out of the hole or spent a lot more time catching up.
Rev for those who have g3 epics and jelly, so not quite to the 42 uncommon, how will that effect crew layout?
Won't effect it all! The strategy stays the same
@@RevDeuce thanks!
@Rev Deuce can it be done at level 32?
Dont have Sisko, Data, or Bashir...ideas??
The Defiant isn't covered by Federation ships?
Yeah that never made any sense to me either a year out I just got to this video but I always said why was the tis jelly why couldn't it have been the defiance maybe the Kelvin something else a little bit more kick to it
Rev the only reason the Jellyfish makes sense to me is because it really isn't a faction ship as I understand it. That said, I agree they should have the Defiant as well.
neither is the defiant (no specialty ships get the faction bonus')
@@RevDeuce The V'Dar is the ship that they made to kill Borg. Thats where the Buff should have gone.
Defiant literally already has the buff, though (it's the ship's special ability)
It makes no sense but it makes sense to them when they come out with the hundred-dollar skin for the D
Will they add Defiant to the Borg armada attack since that was what it was originally designed for?
defiant is a federation ship though so maybe its covered by the fed research ?
No, no specialty ships get those researches
@@RevDeuce then yeah they need to add a defiant research node for sure!
Does Dax proc in Borg armadas?
Are you boosting with Cerritos/Defiant or using Exco for increased damage?
I certainly hope not, at least not for damage. They aren't adding much compared to the 35000% research boost
What level and tier are your Borg officers? My seven and six are both tier 3, level 15 so it doesn’t seem like much help to swap 6 & 7.
Last night on Twitch he took 7 to T5 so that he could have similar stats to his 6.
What Nicholas said, should also be pointed out the idea was 7's officer ability helping 5of11. It resulted in 3-4% more mitigation for my ship.
Death Star - that was rich!! Buajajajaja
Wonder if I could manage the 44 uncs... Saw some 42 ships getting hammered on discord, which I don't have yet so risky. The 41s I beat with almost no damage in just 4 rounds using similar crews as you. stat stacking is not a problem, 30k health (before exos) is achiavable for mitigation officers. Shame the 46 system has such a high warp range, but disco can help with that (albeit too expensive on the long run tho).
maybe they plan to add the Defiant research in the next patch :)
No idea should have been the defiant
It should be defiant it was cannon as a borg fighting ship
How did the Augur proc, when there isnt any burning?
The Obliterator weapon still fires without burning, it's just that when there's burning in effect it adds a damage bonus (which for these will be basically nothing).
Hey Rev, why dont you mention using 8 to make criticals? He does it better than any of the others as this is Borg.
Also, does Bashir work?
Had a 1.8 mil ViDar with your recommended crew and did not even dent the 35 solo. Hmmmm
Does Defiant not count as a federation ship?
Why not have a burning officer on the Augur?
The 35000 bonus from the research make that ship ability not super important
I'm wondering why there's no burning crew used in these builds to go with the Augur
Damage bonus from the Augur ship ability wouldn't matter with the level of bonuses, and the 1% background damage doesn't is certainly a large number it's not particularly significant when you're killing them in 8 rounds (so 7 rounds of burn - about 29m total damage, while my T4 Newton is doing breach crits of 55m+ in 1 shot).
The Defiant is covered with the Fed research, the Jelly isn't covered with one of the 3 faction researches.
Specialty ships don't get faction research.
@@RevDeuce where can i find that information?
Still no Defiant... so i would think the Jelly could be the "logic" F2P option??? Maybe. Although the Defiant has that (long) F2P sourcing... still... Logics...
I agree about the defiant, but clearly they're just trying to keep the jelly relevant after they made it obsolete with the defiant