@@jeremyzhu8885 thank you, yes I do use LRT extensively and Gunther’s latest video was super helpful to understand which sliders affect flicker which don’t 😀👍🏻Thanks for coming along
Great Video! I have on wish on the z6ii. It would be great if i can a limit shutter speed for timelapse. for example, I set 15 seconds. when 15 seconds are reached the ISO increases, so I could save the qdslr dashboard app.
I’m so frustrated. It seem that you can’t use image review on time lapse or easily pause the time lapse in the middle. Why? This is so useful for checking my exposure during a long time lapse and I could do it on my d850. Nikon is so strange with adding features and taking them away from their camera that I think it’s best to just pick one camera and stick with that for as long as you can. Why upgrade when you might not have the same basic features you had on a previous camera?
I use a Z6 for time lapse HAND HELD using from a moving boat using an AIS manual lens, recording TIFF's, which the Z6II cannot do. The problem is that you have to go through the menu to start the time lapse. I have submitted a feature request to Nikon to allow starting the time lapse with a remapped function button. Also, you cannot see an interval shorter than 3 sec on the monitor screen, which is a problem. This is a really awkward situation. My old Panasonic G6 allows both. My work-around is to install a bubble level on the flash bracket and try to keep it level during the time lapse. Combining in-camera VR and the NLE's stabilization yields a fair result.
Why shoot tiff ? Best to shoot raw and export after adjustments to tiffs to then make them into prores4444 files, that’s what I do, and if you do need to see screen at faster intervals then just get an external intervalometer where even at 1s you can still see the screen flash at least 👍🏻
@@LondonViewpoints I shoot TIFF because it has wider dynamic range than JPEG, without the inconvenience of handling RAW files. I can import TIFF's directly into FCPX and quickly create the time lapse. I try to get the maximum quality with the minimum time spent in post. My time lapses are about 20 minutes shooting time, producing around 1000 images. Now that November has finally arrived on the Gulf coast, I will be back out there for another six weeks or so, until it gets a little too chilly to try to keep still on a moving boat with a stiff north wind. What would be ideal would be to start in video mode while the captain steers the boat from the landing towards its destination, then switch to photo and start the time lapse once the course has been set. I take your point about the external intervalometer. I'll look into that.
Thanks for watching this followup to my Z6 timelapse review, however if you want to get the best deal for your money right now, the Z6 is still an amazing body to get, and cheaper than ever before. Check out this video I made about the "10 things I still love about the Z6 in 2020" ua-cam.com/video/iHAs-ro4FQs/v-deo.html
According to my calculations 30 years or so, max interval is one day, max shots in the in-body intervalometer is 9999 so that’s 30 years there and there about
Hi. Thanks for the great, detailed review. I'm considering moving to Nikon because of the 0.5 sec interval, and the folder organization that Sony doesn't seem to develop at all. I heard that Nikon doesn't show the number of current shots, is that true? Thanks!
@@LondonViewpoints Hi Thanks for your reply. I mean, for example, does it show on the screen how many photos were taken in real time? I normally set the shot number to 9999 on Sony, and I will stop manually when I'm satisfied with what happened in the scene. But I need to see whether the shot number is enough to make a 8-10 sec video.
@@kaweew3526 nope it doesn’t show that, you have to do the math and look at the start time and watch your clock, unlike on the Z8/9 where it does show shots left
For photos, up in the list there should be a Fujifilm camera! Particularly the JPG straight out of camera! Videos and Timelapse though... well, wait for my video later today 😉 Those timelapse features you talk about on the Nikon have always been available on Fuji. Only the 9999 uninterrupted frame are a new addition of the X-T4. Problem though, is the performance. But you know that, we were together 😅
Yes I’ve heard many love the Fuji photo look and feel, however I’ve never had one hence just cant relate, but indeed I’ve heard good things about Fuji timelapse features just FF for me is the only way to get good wide shift lenses for architecture so a crop body jsut wouldn’t cut it for my personal preferences. Looking forward to your video👍🏻
Thanks, I’m pretty sure they would be the same but honestly cannot say for sure as raw files from Z7II would be bigger and don’t know how it would cope with them time of writing and speed wise
Thank you, very thorough and informative. Question please, the aperture flickering you mention, is this only on Z lenses? What about non-Z lenses attached via the FTZ (I think you might have partly answered this in another comment)? A lot of Z6 II reviews say it's not enough of an improvement on the Z6 but I agree with you, the SD card and being able to power it externally alone are great upgrades. The lack of SD support on the Z6 ruled it out for me (I went for a Z50 in the end). The time lapses you had in the intro were amazing, I was especially mesmerised by the trains, would love to see more of the hustle and bustle of London life. Thanks again, always look forward to your videos.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the long buy detailed review, so yes, amongst all the length of it, I forgot to say that on FTZ adapter F lenses with electronics do NOT flicker up to 5.6 but from 6.3 up they do. Weird one that, works perfectly on F Mount (no lens correction applied tho) but can’t on Z 🤷🏼♂️I wanted to include more timelapse but you know, not ideal times to just pop into central for inessential reasons like a review so they ones that I did were around chors and business I had to do 👍🏻
Thanks a lot, all depends on what setting you have on , length of exposures etc but as I mentioned there will be another short technical video all about batteries soon
That intro was EPIC dude! Very well done 👌🏼 The review too of course, very thorough! Convinced me it’s not for me 😂👍🏼 Won’t be getting a new camera for a while anyway 😞
Haha glad you at least liked the intro😀Being completely honest why it’s for some and not everyone is the best way about it. If I had spare £4k and needed a dedicated video body, we all know which one we would get , but for Timelapse this is the one I’ll be upgrading to👍🏻
What about doing the video timelapse externally on to the Atomos ninja V-is it still 3 min limit? With a 3 min limit, I feel it is useless to do a video timelapse...it is way too short...
Yeah that would be pointless, size of the file unnecessary as you have to speed it up anyway, might as well shoot internal raw photos or jsut the in body 4k timelapse movie
Nice review. Sony's S&Q mode does timelapse's without gaps between frames. It's great for photographing staellite trails at night. Are there any other full-frame cameras aside from Sony's that will do this?
yes, I get what you say about SD / xqd card speeds, also an issue with phase one XF 150 MP IQ4 medium format camera, that is why in a video about connectivity/ tethering of the camera, they specifically recommend the Ethernet connection, due to its speed. ( as opposed to WiFi style of communication)- like app connection to a phone, in fact they demonstrate that the CABLE transfer of the files is quicker overall, USB-c first, then the Ethernet ( due to the unlimited length of cable you can use).
Hi, i am a beginner and have a question. What is the difference in quality at the end between the time lapse raw files and the 4k movie at the end? (what you speak about starting from min. 11:38). Why to keep the single raw exposures when the 4k movie is also recorded at the same time? I mean can you tell a good reason? Thank you for this fantastic Video!
Thank you for the video and going into the details. Regarding Z6II "simultaneous Shoot RAW + Time-lapse movie", my understanding is, it has nothing to do with 2 processors, Z50 & D780 have had that option from the beginning. And I always felt puzzled as to why Nikon didn't make it available for original Z6. But I could be wrong. Do you have an insight? Cheers 👍🏼
Thanks, oh I didn’t know the Z50 and D780 had that , wow, I had the Z50 on loan and did a review of it and didn’t notice it. No idea if it’s two processor enabling that on Z6 or not but I do like it 😀
Hi Michael, thanks for this great video! I loved looking it! There are two questions I have : 1) You did mention that you don't like the software-restrictions in the "time-lapse movie" in terms of video lenght....while doing the review did you see you can activate "time-lapse movie" within the "Interval time shooting" Setting Options ? I am not sure, but I think this could be a work arround as you can set much bigger time windows within "Interval time shooting" !!? or am I missing something ? 2) With all the options a z6ii offers in "Time-lapse movie" and "Interval timer shooting"....I can't find to justify the buying of the external LRTimelaps PRO Timer....do you see a reason for still buying one ?
Hey, thanks, glad you found it helpful. 1) Great point, that’s definitely a good workaround, didn’t think of that, so when you’re done you just delete the raw images, that could work, but haven’t tested it to know if the video can be longer than 3min45s, but 9999 images is about 6min and 40s so maybe it’ll still make that into one file. 2) I don’t have one, and not planning on buying one, ramping interval would be the only reason why I would be interested in it, but I would ramp so rarely that I can’t justify the price . Hope this helps
Hi Michael, great look at the Z6 2, I have now bought a 256gb SD card and a reader (but i paid £74 from Amazon) but you forgot the other good point of 900 seconds for ND etc. But maybe thats of no interest to you? More useful on the Z7 2.
Thanks, yeah I think I got lucky with the Black Friday deal on the 256gb, but still even £74 compare to XQD is nothing. Yes I am aware of the 900sec feature but it’s not something I use in timelapse much but for photography that’s definitely a very much welcomed feature 👍🏻
Great video I subbed, hoping to learn and grow my skills in timelapse this year. I must say I thought it was HILARIOUS when you said one of the beniefits of the SD card over CF card was that it was lighter lol
Only if you trigger it externally, and the delay is only possible in photo mode timelapse or you can also delay with an external intervalometer while the camera is charging
Thanks, I can’t remember actually was it the case on D850 but on Z cameras with F lenses via FTZ up to f5.6 they don’t flicker, above they do, but maybe that’s why you’ve not noticed it if you shot at wider open than f5.6 on DLSR . Yes LRT can remove it, but it’s an extra processing step that quite frankly if you shoot multiple manual short term timelapses you don’t want to add to your post processing time, but you have to occasionally
Thank you Michael, quite a rant but I can see it was born from experience. Makes the Z6II more tempting, especially the SD aspect. My laptop has an SD card slot but I often forget to travel with the XQD reader... Also I still have lots of fast SD cards that can be put back to use in addition to my XQD which can be put to overflow duties unless I need super high speed...
I would add that it was the XQD card, rather than a lack of dual cards slots that annoyed me most about the Mk1 coming previously from a camera that used SD. I will say however that the XQD has been bombproof, but as a feature it kinda backfired.
Indeed it’s the SD cards for me too why one of my Z6 is going on eBay, on the note of XQDs, yes they were bombproof and I really loved how fast they offload to an ssd , but that’s it, I’d cope with slowed transfer speeds for the price and capacity benefits of sd 😉
an impeccable review for timelapse shooters....how about the difference between Z6II and Z5 for timelapse? Worth the extra money given the Z5 has two slots and "c" type battery with continuous charging? I see only the movie+raw files recorded simultaneously as the main difference...as there anything more?
Thank you very much. Sensor is far superior in Z6/Z6 II and as an all rounder camera they are much better for shooting video 4k isn’t cropped and to be honest the price isn’t that much cheaper to be worth considering Z5, I’d rather get another Z6 maybe used for that price any day👍🏻
@@LondonViewpoints thanks...yeah, I know BSI is better, first samples I saw including high ISO night photos from Z5 showed no to negligible difference compared to Z6 (but now I learned that Z6II has much better banding performance)...btw the price difference between Z5 x Z6II here in Czechia is 450GBP, which still matters to me...but as wedding photographer I will opt for Z6II, unless they come out with Z8/9 any time soon
@@CGYPP don’t think Z8/9 will be hear too soon, so Z6II is the best bet for a mix of photo/video wedding shooter for sure, especially for the 1.7x crop in 4k I wouldn’t even dare to think of getting it
Thanks Michael for this review, I have an extra question regarding the use of the vibration control, I am not sure if it has to be ON or OFF when doing time lapse? In general I noticed that in most Z6 photography situations the focus results are better when vibration control is ON, even when using external flash light. As it is important to keep the sensor in a perfect same position during the time lapse I am afraid the sensor will not stay still with the vibration control ON.
Glad to hear you found this review useful. Timelapse is such a small niche that even when I report them directly to my contacts in Nikon they put them so far on the pecking order they never get updated 😂learned to live with them and found workarounds where I could 🤷🏼♂️
Fingers crossed that they can change it with a firmware update at some point with the aperture 'bug'. But for me personally I hope to see improved bird AF next 😁 At least the Z6II seems to have less flicker than the R6, saw some really weird footage there.
Thank you for your really helpful video. I also like your other videos very much. Maybe you can help me with one issue: I also updated from Z6 to the Z6ii recently and I discovered a strange behavior during timelapse photography. Maybe you can confirm the same behavior. If I set the exposure time to 15s and the external intervalometer to 15.7s (0.7s gap between the shots) the camera doesn’t take every second picture. I’m using the LRTimelape Time Pro. The problem occurs only with an exposure of 15s. All other exposure times are working just fine with a 0.7s gap between the shots (e.g. 4.0s and 4.7s -> 10s and 10.7s -> 13.0s and 13.7s -> 20s and 20.7s) Do you have the same behavior at 15s? Am I doing something wrong? I’m quite sure that 15s with a 15.7s interval worked fine with my old Nikon Z6. Or maybe other users can double check this behavior. Thanks from Germany, Nico
Hey Nico, thanks a lot for your kind words, yes it’s best to check these things, I still haven’t upgraded to the Z6II, waiting for lockdown to be lifted and the first gig to pay for it so I’m still in my two Z6’s. Also I don’t have the LRT PT so can’t confirm how it affects the gap time. However it also all depends on all the setting you can have on or off like AF, IBIS, lens corrections (diffraction and vignette ) photo size and quality + jpegs it not, card speed etc, I always had no skipped frames with only a 0.4” gap, but once on a Z6II on a 30s exposure and 31” interval it did skip and only took every second photo, which I didn’t fully analyse why, and just assumed I didn’t switch one of the above setting off, but maybe in a long shutter like 15 or more seconds it needs a slightly longer gap🤷🏼♂️
@@LondonViewpoints Thank you very much for your answer! I will continue analysing this behavior. I have already tested the following settings: Autofocus ON/OFF, only XQD-Card, no SD-card inserted, RAW only, jpg only, IBIS off, lense correction on/off, diffraction on/off, vignetting on/off. Monitor on/off. The problem persists at all settings so far. Wish you all the best and hopefully the lockdown will be over soon. Happy "timelapsing"
@@LondonViewpoints now I understand the problem with the exposure time. I wrote to Gunter Wegner (you might know him -> LRTimelapse) and he said that an exposure time of 15s is actually 16s. All camera manufactures are using the wrong exposure time "names" due to historical reasons. The "real" exposure times 2 to the power of x. So 15 sesonds is actually 2 to the power of 4 seconds = 16s. And 30s = 2 to the power of 5 = 32 seoconds. I double checked this behavior by using a stop watch and Gunter was totally right. That might also explain your problem, that at 30s exposure and an interval of 31s every second photo skipped. I have learned something today and this information might also be helpful for you and others as well. And by the way: 20s = 20s :)
As far as the Panasonic S5 goes, I believe the camera shoots at the intervals that you specify, and then it recognizes that specific range of RAW photos as a collection, and from there you can output it at any of the cameras compatible resolutions and frame rates, forward or reverse. With both the Nikon Z and Panasonic S range of cameras there are a lot of complex options and I think they both have some caveats. I believe they are both very comparable in this regard, but I would really like to see someone compare those two cameras specifically for time lapses.
Yeah I’ve heard you can make timelapses out of the raws in body after, while the Z6II just makes them while it shoots them so saves a bit of time, don’t know all other features of any Panny, but I’m pretty pleased with the Z6II
@@LondonViewpoints I'm just happy that manufactures are designing more intuitive time lapse features into the camera. The first couple Sonys and Canons I had required an intervalometer. I picked up the Nikon Z5 recently specifically for time lapses.
@@peterhamilton7218 yes the Z5 is a great timelapse machine however for the price I’d still recommend anyone a used Z6 because of that far superior sensor 🤷🏼♂️the sacrifice would be the pricey XQD cards over SD
@@LondonViewpoints Normally I would agree, and I was totally torn on picking up a Z6 used or just biting the bullet on a Z6ii, but I ended up with the Z5 for $996 new around Christmas. I actually bid on a few used Z6's on eBay and got outbid at $200-$300 over what I ended up getting the Z5 for. Nikon launched that camera at the wrong price. At $1000 or less, it's the best full frame camera for the money, and definitely the best time lapse machine that I can think of. This is my first Nikon and my first full frame mirrorless, and I imagine it will end up being my gateway to the Z6ii or perhaps Z6iii.
@@peterhamilton7218 most likely and you will see the difference unlike when I upgraded from Z6 to Z6II where it was all about the features but no change in quality, but I was happy with that, it was the extra features I was after
Another great video 👍 the z5 also has some of these features: simultaneous raw and Timelapse movie, usb power & dual card slots (both sd). For timelapse main differences I can see is no useful top lcd and sensor not being bsi. Do you think the non bsi sensor still makes the z5 an option especially for iso3200-6400 Astro timelapses?
@@LondonViewpoints Thank you, I am considering buy a 2nd hand Z7 which is slightly cheaper than Z6II, I am mainly shot landscape, architecture, so I guess Z7 is better for me in terms of resolution
for example, my Sony 6400 has a constant aperture, that is, it does not open and close for each shot, shows the image on the screen while shooting a timelapse, is powered by a simple and cheap power Bank, for example, xiaomi 10000 mah shooting time is almost 10 hours, takes a frame every 1 second without skipping frames. While the picture is being taken, the previous one is being recorded on the card. At the same time, my Nikon D850 does not know how to do this, and it's so sad
Indeed I had some issues when it came to timelapse when I had d850 on loan, the image quality was beautiful but too many things jsut didn’t work for me too. On your A6400, first off it’s a crop body hence it’s out of the option for me as I need to use full frame for all my shift architectural lenses, but it’s interesting how you say it shows the preview constantly but up to what length of shutter can it definitely not skip frames? Have you tested 0.8” or a full 1” ?
@@LondonViewpoints Of course, it's a crop. Yes, I tested 1 "shutter speed with 1" interval. This goes without skipping frames every second. In any p,A,m mode. I didn't test the S mode, because I don't use it in real shooting. The camera display shows the captured frame in the remaining interval before the start of the next frame. The less time left, the shorter the impression. When the exposure is equal to an interval, such as 1" and 1", the display shows a very short time, about 0.1-0.2 seconds. It is difficult to evaluate a frame and all the information in one impression, but it is possible for 5-7 impressions, although it is inconvenient. Nikon always shows a black screen. Sony also has three methods for smoothing exposure differences, which will reduce flicker. In the same shooting, Nikon's flicker is stronger.
@@LondonViewpoints I love Nikon, and I've been in the system for about 12 years. My first camera was D80, then D700, D800, d850. Now I own a Sony 6400 for a year, I bought it out of interest to see another system and not spend a lot of money. I took about 200-300 timelaps. And this cheap crop is much more convenient than the expensive d850. I didn't own z. But it's not much different from the d850, I can see from the menu. The best thing about Nikon is full frame, dynamic range. And that's all. If you compare it with a crop, and if you compare it with a full frame of Sony? Why am I so cruel to Nikon? Because they can be better and it's not hard to improve, but they don't do it for us.
@@soleg19741 that’s good to know a6400 can do 1” over 1” without skipped frames👍🏻if you shoot external intervalometer on Z6 and shoot 0.6” over 1” you still see a frame for a fraction of a second, like 0.1” but yeah on longer gaps to see a preview you do have to shoot external intervalometer
Love your deep dive into timelapse feature!!!
Thank you 😃glad you found it useful
@@LondonViewpoints happy to discover your channel via LRT comment section
@@jeremyzhu8885 thank you, yes I do use LRT extensively and Gunther’s latest video was super helpful to understand which sliders affect flicker which don’t 😀👍🏻Thanks for coming along
Nikon Z-mount are the best timelapse cameras on the market, a pleasure to shoot with :)
Absolutely agree, just wish some of my nags about lenses would get addressed 😉
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Great Video! I have on wish on the z6ii. It would be great if i can a limit shutter speed for timelapse. for example, I set 15 seconds. when 15 seconds are reached the ISO increases, so I could save the qdslr dashboard app.
Thanks and you can do that, it’s in the auto iso settings, you set the longest shutter time before iso kicks in 👍🏻
@@LondonViewpoints i know, but i want a fixed aperture. I hope this comes wjth a Firmware Update.
@@DaHerrKulzer then you shoot in A mode and if you have a native Z lens you unscrew it👍🏻
@@LondonViewpoints allright, i try this. Thank you very much 😊
Well done Michael. I am getting a Z6ii from Nikon Canada in January to try. Can't wait to use those new features you outlined.
Thank you Dave, they appear like small changes but to someone like me who does what we do, they are actually quite a bug thing 😀👍🏻
I’m so frustrated. It seem that you can’t use image review on time lapse or easily pause the time lapse in the middle. Why? This is so useful for checking my exposure during a long time lapse and I could do it on my d850. Nikon is so strange with adding features and taking them away from their camera that I think it’s best to just pick one camera and stick with that for as long as you can. Why upgrade when you might not have the same basic features you had on a previous camera?
What about trying an external intervalometer and reviewing in between the shots, I know it’s not ideal but may work for you
I use a Z6 for time lapse HAND HELD using from a moving boat using an AIS manual lens, recording TIFF's, which the Z6II cannot do. The problem is that you have to go through the menu to start the time lapse. I have submitted a feature request to Nikon to allow starting the time lapse with a remapped function button. Also, you cannot see an interval shorter than 3 sec on the monitor screen, which is a problem. This is a really awkward situation. My old Panasonic G6 allows both. My work-around is to install a bubble level on the flash bracket and try to keep it level during the time lapse. Combining in-camera VR and the NLE's stabilization yields a fair result.
Why shoot tiff ? Best to shoot raw and export after adjustments to tiffs to then make them into prores4444 files, that’s what I do, and if you do need to see screen at faster intervals then just get an external intervalometer where even at 1s you can still see the screen flash at least 👍🏻
@@LondonViewpoints I shoot TIFF because it has wider dynamic range than JPEG, without the inconvenience of handling RAW files. I can import TIFF's directly into FCPX and quickly create the time lapse. I try to get the maximum quality with the minimum time spent in post. My time lapses are about 20 minutes shooting time, producing around 1000 images. Now that November has finally arrived on the Gulf coast, I will be back out there for another six weeks or so, until it gets a little too chilly to try to keep still on a moving boat with a stiff north wind. What would be ideal would be to start in video mode while the captain steers the boat from the landing towards its destination, then switch to photo and start the time lapse once the course has been set. I take your point about the external intervalometer. I'll look into that.
Thanks for watching this followup to my Z6 timelapse review, however if you want to get the best deal for your money right now, the Z6 is still an amazing body to get, and cheaper than ever before. Check out this video I made about the "10 things I still love about the Z6 in 2020" ua-cam.com/video/iHAs-ro4FQs/v-deo.html
Does anybody know please: how many (real time) hours could you run a single timelapse using this camera in one go?
According to my calculations 30 years or so, max interval is one day, max shots in the in-body intervalometer is 9999 so that’s 30 years there and there about
@@LondonViewpoints Thanks again Michael!
Hi. Thanks for the great, detailed review. I'm considering moving to Nikon because of the 0.5 sec interval, and the folder organization that Sony doesn't seem to develop at all. I heard that Nikon doesn't show the number of current shots, is that true? Thanks!
Yes the folder organisation is a great time saver, what do you mean by number of current shots ?
@@LondonViewpoints Hi Thanks for your reply. I mean, for example, does it show on the screen how many photos were taken in real time? I normally set the shot number to 9999 on Sony, and I will stop manually when I'm satisfied with what happened in the scene. But I need to see whether the shot number is enough to make a 8-10 sec video.
@@kaweew3526 nope it doesn’t show that, you have to do the math and look at the start time and watch your clock, unlike on the Z8/9 where it does show shots left
@@LondonViewpoints Ah ok Thanks a lot :)
For photos, up in the list there should be a Fujifilm camera! Particularly the JPG straight out of camera! Videos and Timelapse though... well, wait for my video later today 😉
Those timelapse features you talk about on the Nikon have always been available on Fuji. Only the 9999 uninterrupted frame are a new addition of the X-T4. Problem though, is the performance. But you know that, we were together 😅
Yes I’ve heard many love the Fuji photo look and feel, however I’ve never had one hence just cant relate, but indeed I’ve heard good things about Fuji timelapse features just FF for me is the only way to get good wide shift lenses for architecture so a crop body jsut wouldn’t cut it for my personal preferences. Looking forward to your video👍🏻
Hi
Thank you for the video
Is z6ii superior to the z7ii specs for time lapse?
Thanks, I’m pretty sure they would be the same but honestly cannot say for sure as raw files from Z7II would be bigger and don’t know how it would cope with them time of writing and speed wise
@@LondonViewpoints thanks
Thank you, very thorough and informative. Question please, the aperture flickering you mention, is this only on Z lenses? What about non-Z lenses attached via the FTZ (I think you might have partly answered this in another comment)?
A lot of Z6 II reviews say it's not enough of an improvement on the Z6 but I agree with you, the SD card and being able to power it externally alone are great upgrades. The lack of SD support on the Z6 ruled it out for me (I went for a Z50 in the end).
The time lapses you had in the intro were amazing, I was especially mesmerised by the trains, would love to see more of the hustle and bustle of London life.
Thanks again, always look forward to your videos.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the long buy detailed review, so yes, amongst all the length of it, I forgot to say that on FTZ adapter F lenses with electronics do NOT flicker up to 5.6 but from 6.3 up they do. Weird one that, works perfectly on F Mount (no lens correction applied tho) but can’t on Z 🤷🏼♂️I wanted to include more timelapse but you know, not ideal times to just pop into central for inessential reasons like a review so they ones that I did were around chors and business I had to do 👍🏻
Great review mate! How many shoot could you take with One battery?
Thanks a lot, all depends on what setting you have on , length of exposures etc but as I mentioned there will be another short technical video all about batteries soon
That intro was EPIC dude! Very well done 👌🏼 The review too of course, very thorough! Convinced me it’s not for me 😂👍🏼 Won’t be getting a new camera for a while anyway 😞
Haha glad you at least liked the intro😀Being completely honest why it’s for some and not everyone is the best way about it. If I had spare £4k and needed a dedicated video body, we all know which one we would get , but for Timelapse this is the one I’ll be upgrading to👍🏻
What about doing the video timelapse externally on to the Atomos ninja V-is it still 3 min limit? With a 3 min limit, I feel it is useless to do a video timelapse...it is way too short...
Yeah that would be pointless, size of the file unnecessary as you have to speed it up anyway, might as well shoot internal raw photos or jsut the in body 4k timelapse movie
Nice review. Sony's S&Q mode does timelapse's without gaps between frames. It's great for photographing staellite trails at night. Are there any other full-frame cameras aside from Sony's that will do this?
Isn’t S&Q doing a video only ?
yes, I get what you say about SD / xqd card speeds, also an issue with phase one XF 150 MP IQ4 medium format camera, that is why in a video about connectivity/ tethering of the camera, they specifically recommend the Ethernet connection, due to its speed. ( as opposed to WiFi style of communication)- like app connection to a phone, in fact they demonstrate that the CABLE transfer of the files is quicker overall, USB-c first, then the Ethernet ( due to the unlimited length of cable you can use).
Sounds right, it’s Not like I’d need to often in the field but occasionally I would
Hi, i am a beginner and have a question. What is the difference in quality at the end between the time lapse raw files and the 4k movie at the end? (what you speak about starting from min. 11:38). Why to keep the single raw exposures when the 4k movie is also recorded at the same time? I mean can you tell a good reason? Thank you for this fantastic Video!
Different between a raw image and compressed low bitrate h264 frame ? MASSIVE !!!
Thank you for the video and going into the details.
Regarding Z6II "simultaneous Shoot RAW + Time-lapse movie", my understanding is, it has nothing to do with 2 processors, Z50 & D780 have had that option from the beginning. And I always felt puzzled as to why Nikon didn't make it available for original Z6.
But I could be wrong.
Do you have an insight?
Cheers 👍🏼
Thanks, oh I didn’t know the Z50 and D780 had that , wow, I had the Z50 on loan and did a review of it and didn’t notice it. No idea if it’s two processor enabling that on Z6 or not but I do like it 😀
Hi Michael, thanks for this great video! I loved looking it! There are two questions I have :
1) You did mention that you don't like the software-restrictions in the "time-lapse movie" in terms of video lenght....while doing the review did you see you can activate "time-lapse movie" within the "Interval time shooting" Setting Options ? I am not sure, but I think this could be a work arround as you can set much bigger time windows within "Interval time shooting" !!? or am I missing something ?
2) With all the options a z6ii offers in "Time-lapse movie" and "Interval timer shooting"....I can't find to justify the buying of the external LRTimelaps PRO Timer....do you see a reason for still buying one ?
Hey, thanks, glad you found it helpful. 1) Great point, that’s definitely a good workaround, didn’t think of that, so when you’re done you just delete the raw images, that could work, but haven’t tested it to know if the video can be longer than 3min45s, but 9999 images is about 6min and 40s so maybe it’ll still make that into one file. 2) I don’t have one, and not planning on buying one, ramping interval would be the only reason why I would be interested in it, but I would ramp so rarely that I can’t justify the price . Hope this helps
Hi Michael, great look at the Z6 2, I have now bought a 256gb SD card and a reader (but i paid £74 from Amazon) but you forgot the other good point of 900 seconds for ND etc. But maybe thats of no interest to you? More useful on the Z7 2.
Thanks, yeah I think I got lucky with the Black Friday deal on the 256gb, but still even £74 compare to XQD is nothing. Yes I am aware of the 900sec feature but it’s not something I use in timelapse much but for photography that’s definitely a very much welcomed feature 👍🏻
Great video I subbed, hoping to learn and grow my skills in timelapse this year. I must say I thought it was HILARIOUS when you said one of the beniefits of the SD card over CF card was that it was lighter lol
Haha thanks, yeah must have been a joke of a moment as you know the difference is marginal, but yes I’m all for SD 👍🏻😀
Any idea how to extend the shooting time beyond 8 hrs? This limit is indeed very annoying! And is it possible to delay onset of a timelapse shooting?
Only if you trigger it externally, and the delay is only possible in photo mode timelapse or you can also delay with an external intervalometer while the camera is charging
How can I power my Z6ii for a 6 day Timelapse and use the in camera intervalometer?
Wall plug usb, power banks(swap when dead), as long as you don’t need more then 9,999 shots it’s fairly easy
Good review. I wasn’t aware of the flicker issue being a dslr user, but I am thinking of going mirrorless. Does LRT resolve this with deflicker?
Thanks, I can’t remember actually was it the case on D850 but on Z cameras with F lenses via FTZ up to f5.6 they don’t flicker, above they do, but maybe that’s why you’ve not noticed it if you shot at wider open than f5.6 on DLSR . Yes LRT can remove it, but it’s an extra processing step that quite frankly if you shoot multiple manual short term timelapses you don’t want to add to your post processing time, but you have to occasionally
@@LondonViewpoints yes it would be very helpful is this flicker didn’t occur.
I really appreciate your review
Thank you Michael, quite a rant but I can see it was born from experience. Makes the Z6II more tempting, especially the SD aspect. My laptop has an SD card slot but I often forget to travel with the XQD reader... Also I still have lots of fast SD cards that can be put back to use in addition to my XQD which can be put to overflow duties unless I need super high speed...
I would add that it was the XQD card, rather than a lack of dual cards slots that annoyed me most about the Mk1 coming previously from a camera that used SD. I will say however that the XQD has been bombproof, but as a feature it kinda backfired.
Indeed it’s the SD cards for me too why one of my Z6 is going on eBay, on the note of XQDs, yes they were bombproof and I really loved how fast they offload to an ssd , but that’s it, I’d cope with slowed transfer speeds for the price and capacity benefits of sd 😉
an impeccable review for timelapse shooters....how about the difference between Z6II and Z5 for timelapse? Worth the extra money given the Z5 has two slots and "c" type battery with continuous charging? I see only the movie+raw files recorded simultaneously as the main difference...as there anything more?
Thank you very much. Sensor is far superior in Z6/Z6 II and as an all rounder camera they are much better for shooting video 4k isn’t cropped and to be honest the price isn’t that much cheaper to be worth considering Z5, I’d rather get another Z6 maybe used for that price any day👍🏻
@@LondonViewpoints thanks...yeah, I know BSI is better, first samples I saw including high ISO night photos from Z5 showed no to negligible difference compared to Z6 (but now I learned that Z6II has much better banding performance)...btw the price difference between Z5 x Z6II here in Czechia is 450GBP, which still matters to me...but as wedding photographer I will opt for Z6II, unless they come out with Z8/9 any time soon
@@CGYPP don’t think Z8/9 will be hear too soon, so Z6II is the best bet for a mix of photo/video wedding shooter for sure, especially for the 1.7x crop in 4k I wouldn’t even dare to think of getting it
Thanks Michael for this review, I have an extra question regarding the use of the vibration control, I am not sure if it has to be ON or OFF when doing time lapse? In general I noticed that in most Z6 photography situations the focus results are better when vibration control is ON, even when using external flash light.
As it is important to keep the sensor in a perfect same position during the time lapse I am afraid the sensor will not stay still with the vibration control ON.
Thanks a lot for the detailed review, now I want that Z6II even more. Weird that Nikon didn't actually advertise these changes 😅
Glad to hear you found this review useful. Timelapse is such a small niche that even when I report them directly to my contacts in Nikon they put them so far on the pecking order they never get updated 😂learned to live with them and found workarounds where I could 🤷🏼♂️
Fingers crossed that they can change it with a firmware update at some point with the aperture 'bug'. But for me personally I hope to see improved bird AF next 😁 At least the Z6II seems to have less flicker than the R6, saw some really weird footage there.
Thank you for your really helpful video. I also like your other videos very much. Maybe you can help me with one issue: I also updated from Z6 to the Z6ii recently and I discovered a strange behavior during timelapse photography. Maybe you can confirm the same behavior. If I set the exposure time to 15s and the external intervalometer to 15.7s (0.7s gap between the shots) the camera doesn’t take every second picture. I’m using the LRTimelape Time Pro. The problem occurs only with an exposure of 15s. All other exposure times are working just fine with a 0.7s gap between the shots (e.g. 4.0s and 4.7s -> 10s and 10.7s -> 13.0s and 13.7s -> 20s and 20.7s) Do you have the same behavior at 15s? Am I doing something wrong? I’m quite sure that 15s with a 15.7s interval worked fine with my old Nikon Z6. Or maybe other users can double check this behavior. Thanks from Germany, Nico
Hey Nico, thanks a lot for your kind words, yes it’s best to check these things, I still haven’t upgraded to the Z6II, waiting for lockdown to be lifted and the first gig to pay for it so I’m still in my two Z6’s. Also I don’t have the LRT PT so can’t confirm how it affects the gap time. However it also all depends on all the setting you can have on or off like AF, IBIS, lens corrections (diffraction and vignette ) photo size and quality + jpegs it not, card speed etc, I always had no skipped frames with only a 0.4” gap, but once on a Z6II on a 30s exposure and 31” interval it did skip and only took every second photo, which I didn’t fully analyse why, and just assumed I didn’t switch one of the above setting off, but maybe in a long shutter like 15 or more seconds it needs a slightly longer gap🤷🏼♂️
@@LondonViewpoints Thank you very much for your answer! I will continue analysing this behavior. I have already tested the following settings: Autofocus ON/OFF, only XQD-Card, no SD-card inserted, RAW only, jpg only, IBIS off, lense correction on/off, diffraction on/off, vignetting on/off. Monitor on/off. The problem persists at all settings so far. Wish you all the best and hopefully the lockdown will be over soon. Happy "timelapsing"
@@LondonViewpoints now I understand the problem with the exposure time. I wrote to Gunter Wegner (you might know him -> LRTimelapse) and he said that an exposure time of 15s is actually 16s. All camera manufactures are using the wrong exposure time "names" due to historical reasons. The "real" exposure times 2 to the power of x. So 15 sesonds is actually 2 to the power of 4 seconds = 16s. And 30s = 2 to the power of 5 = 32 seoconds. I double checked this behavior by using a stop watch and Gunter was totally right. That might also explain your problem, that at 30s exposure and an interval of 31s every second photo skipped. I have learned something today and this information might also be helpful for you and others as well. And by the way: 20s = 20s :)
@@nicoheise_de oh wow, that I didn’t know either, you learn something new every day 😀thanks a lot for sharing this
That nikon colors are truly stunning
Yes, but colours I believe can be done in post, features is why I choose Nikon personally 👍🏻
As far as the Panasonic S5 goes, I believe the camera shoots at the intervals that you specify, and then it recognizes that specific range of RAW photos as a collection, and from there you can output it at any of the cameras compatible resolutions and frame rates, forward or reverse. With both the Nikon Z and Panasonic S range of cameras there are a lot of complex options and I think they both have some caveats. I believe they are both very comparable in this regard, but I would really like to see someone compare those two cameras specifically for time lapses.
Yeah I’ve heard you can make timelapses out of the raws in body after, while the Z6II just makes them while it shoots them so saves a bit of time, don’t know all other features of any Panny, but I’m pretty pleased with the Z6II
@@LondonViewpoints I'm just happy that manufactures are designing more intuitive time lapse features into the camera. The first couple Sonys and Canons I had required an intervalometer. I picked up the Nikon Z5 recently specifically for time lapses.
@@peterhamilton7218 yes the Z5 is a great timelapse machine however for the price I’d still recommend anyone a used Z6 because of that far superior sensor 🤷🏼♂️the sacrifice would be the pricey XQD cards over SD
@@LondonViewpoints Normally I would agree, and I was totally torn on picking up a Z6 used or just biting the bullet on a Z6ii, but I ended up with the Z5 for $996 new around Christmas. I actually bid on a few used Z6's on eBay and got outbid at $200-$300 over what I ended up getting the Z5 for. Nikon launched that camera at the wrong price. At $1000 or less, it's the best full frame camera for the money, and definitely the best time lapse machine that I can think of. This is my first Nikon and my first full frame mirrorless, and I imagine it will end up being my gateway to the Z6ii or perhaps Z6iii.
@@peterhamilton7218 most likely and you will see the difference unlike when I upgraded from Z6 to Z6II where it was all about the features but no change in quality, but I was happy with that, it was the extra features I was after
Another great video 👍 the z5 also has some of these features: simultaneous raw and Timelapse movie, usb power & dual card slots (both sd). For timelapse main differences I can see is no useful top lcd and sensor not being bsi. Do you think the non bsi sensor still makes the z5 an option especially for iso3200-6400 Astro timelapses?
Thanks, mainly it’s the fact you can easily get a used Z6 cheaper than a Z5 and I’d do that any day for the superior sensor, especially for astro
please tell me, for the interval 1" z6ii what is the maximum long of exposure allows?
0.6” as mentioned in the video, same as original Z6
Loved the video... Very nicely done...
Can Z6 or Z6II shot raw and get 8K time lapse? or has to be Z7, thank you
Z7 can, Z6 max res is only 6k
@@LondonViewpoints Thank you, I am considering buy a 2nd hand Z7 which is slightly cheaper than Z6II, I am mainly shot landscape, architecture, so I guess Z7 is better for me in terms of resolution
@@mac999g4 sounds like the Z7 will be your best choice 👍🏻
Thank you for a honest review.
You’re most welcome
Lovely in Depth Review :D
Thanks
Show the camera 📸
Did you watch the first 30seconds of the video ? Btw it looks almost the same as the original Z6 😉
for example, my Sony 6400 has a constant aperture, that is, it does not open and close for each shot, shows the image on the screen while shooting a timelapse, is powered by a simple and cheap power Bank, for example, xiaomi 10000 mah shooting time is almost 10 hours, takes a frame every 1 second without skipping frames. While the picture is being taken, the previous one is being recorded on the card. At the same time, my Nikon D850 does not know how to do this, and it's so sad
Indeed I had some issues when it came to timelapse when I had d850 on loan, the image quality was beautiful but too many things jsut didn’t work for me too. On your A6400, first off it’s a crop body hence it’s out of the option for me as I need to use full frame for all my shift architectural lenses, but it’s interesting how you say it shows the preview constantly but up to what length of shutter can it definitely not skip frames? Have you tested 0.8” or a full 1” ?
@@LondonViewpoints Of course, it's a crop. Yes, I tested 1 "shutter speed with 1" interval. This goes without skipping frames every second. In any p,A,m mode. I didn't test the S mode, because I don't use it in real shooting. The camera display shows the captured frame in the remaining interval before the start of the next frame. The less time left, the shorter the impression. When the exposure is equal to an interval, such as 1" and 1", the display shows a very short time, about 0.1-0.2 seconds. It is difficult to evaluate a frame and all the information in one impression, but it is possible for 5-7 impressions, although it is inconvenient. Nikon always shows a black screen. Sony also has three methods for smoothing exposure differences, which will reduce flicker. In the same shooting, Nikon's flicker is stronger.
@@LondonViewpoints I love Nikon, and I've been in the system for about 12 years. My first camera was D80, then D700, D800, d850. Now I own a Sony 6400 for a year, I bought it out of interest to see another system and not spend a lot of money. I took about 200-300 timelaps. And this cheap crop is much more convenient than the expensive d850. I didn't own z. But it's not much different from the d850, I can see from the menu. The best thing about Nikon is full frame, dynamic range. And that's all. If you compare it with a crop, and if you compare it with a full frame of Sony? Why am I so cruel to Nikon? Because they can be better and it's not hard to improve, but they don't do it for us.
@@soleg19741 that’s good to know a6400 can do 1” over 1” without skipped frames👍🏻if you shoot external intervalometer on Z6 and shoot 0.6” over 1” you still see a frame for a fraction of a second, like 0.1” but yeah on longer gaps to see a preview you do have to shoot external intervalometer
@@LondonViewpoints thank you, you tell what others don't tell, it's honest and it's great
Canon R6 has waaaaayyy better auto focus than Nikon z6 ii. Also better low light over all best hybrid camera of 2020
Clearly you didn’t watch this video as not once I speak about AF or low light
@@LondonViewpoints Nikon z6ii is not the best hybrid camera of 2020
@@letsfindout6587 when did I say it’s the best hybrid camera ? 🤦🏼♂️I said it’s the best “time-lapse first” camera, did you even watch it?
R6 Better low light than Z6ii?....hmmm, not really and when I see people using the word...waaaayyyyy... it's because they are a faaaaanboooyyyyyy