The Traumas and Rock Stars That Inspired Courtney Love on LIVE THROUGH THIS

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    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Courtney Love is a controversial figure. A complex individual who is equally adored and reviled. As much as Hole were a band, and not merely her backing group, Love’s experiences with the press, her fans and other rockstars colour her best work. And nowhere is that more apparent than on Hole’s 1994 album Live Through This. Tragedy loomed over its initial release, but its hard-rocking, vitriol-fuelled tracks like “Violet”, “She Walks On Me” and “Olympia”, as well as more introspective moments like “Doll Parts” and “Asking For It” illustrate the trials and tribulations of being Courtney Love circa 1993. These are the traumas and Rockstars that inspired Live Through This.
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    B-Side - Pen Unubis
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    00:00 Introduction
    01:17 Violet
    04:09 Doll Parts
    08:32 She Walks On Me
    11:39 Asking For It
    14:36 The Confusion Between "Rock Star" & "Olympia"
    17:37 Miss World & The Prize
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  • @TrashTheory
    @TrashTheory  3 роки тому +48

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    • @kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631
      @kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 3 роки тому +1

      Generation X were a bunch of communists

    • @justmissjamey
      @justmissjamey 3 роки тому +1

      @@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 lol why would you say this??

    • @shadowsanddust2
      @shadowsanddust2 3 роки тому +1

      Cleanliness is next to GODLINESS..
      @TrashTheory
      That is on the Banner in Violet video.. and a Smashing pumpkin lyric

    • @michaelhall5429
      @michaelhall5429 2 роки тому +1

      Hey is old age the same basic melody idea as that song that dude wrote for Karen o that went "I won't runnnnnn far, I will always be here etc"? If that's too vague I'm willing to clarify.

    • @michaelhall5429
      @michaelhall5429 2 роки тому +1

      @@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 good for them.

  • @witchhousetwerkteam
    @witchhousetwerkteam 3 роки тому +999

    part of why she was so hated is because of the awful lack of empathy for the struggle of addiction, mix that with the scrutiny and misoginy of the media and is no wonder why that happened. that woman was facing more shit and sadness than kurt and standed her ground and survived even if her own husband didn't. when male rockstars are addicts they're just rockstars but when women are addicts they're bad mothers, bad wives, bad human beings, nobody gave shit to kurt because he was a junkie, people actually think it's cool even today for some reason

    • @joejellyfish
      @joejellyfish 3 роки тому +68

      Oh my god, perfectly articulated.

    • @--..__
      @--..__ 3 роки тому +10

      Lmao everyone blames it on misogyny , no some people are just shitty and she's one of them

    • @dreamcake9069
      @dreamcake9069 3 роки тому +11

      while i’m sure that a shit ton of the people who hate her absolutely just hate women courtney love is not any person to be defending. she’s a racist, homophobic, transphobic white feminist and the fact that people overlook all of this because they think she’s some girlboss queen is fuckin gross.

    • @micnik3573
      @micnik3573 3 роки тому +85

      Literally. Kurts fans call Courtney a unwashed junkie like.. No awareness lol

    • @micnik3573
      @micnik3573 3 роки тому +24

      @@dreamcake9069 Um thats why shes advocated for gay, trans, drag queens rights?

  • @alejandroescalante6338
    @alejandroescalante6338 3 роки тому +636

    I was on the verge of suicide, dealing with PTSD after surviving rape, Live Through This was not only the soundtrack of my recovery (or at least the start of it) I wouldn't have survived it without it. Regardless of my experience it's a great piece of honest and crude art.

    • @amethyst1267
      @amethyst1267 3 роки тому +28

      I'm glad this album got you through those times. Much love to you

    • @sharon-bp9pk
      @sharon-bp9pk 3 роки тому +10

      I love you. Thanks for sharing!

    • @RoxanneLaWinSTABBY
      @RoxanneLaWinSTABBY 3 роки тому +13

      It seemed to land at a really important moment in time for so many people. Such an important record. I’m glad to hear you’re still here. I’ll think of you the next time I hear those jangling opening notes of Violet. (Probably this afternoon. It’s my best record)

    • @fatbitch7168
      @fatbitch7168 2 роки тому +7

      i'm terribly sorry that you went through such a horrible experience and i really hope you're doing better now!! sending you tons of love and support wherever you are ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @somerandomarmydude
      @somerandomarmydude 2 роки тому +4

      Mine was Mushroomhead and Korn albums.

  • @jess-zo5hl
    @jess-zo5hl 3 роки тому +769

    Live Through This is like nothing I've ever heard before. I first heard it when I was 14 and listened to it for 6 months straight. It continues to be my favorite album of all time and everytime I listen to it, it feels new

    • @demun6065
      @demun6065 3 роки тому +8

      And through nostalgia, people actually think 'Friends' was a good tv show.

    • @lolagranola77
      @lolagranola77 3 місяці тому +1

      indeed

  • @olorinKI
    @olorinKI 3 роки тому +796

    She's right, I need more girls to make angry records. Fuel that fire!

    • @joejellyfish
      @joejellyfish 3 роки тому +8

      Yes!

    • @jumpman93LP
      @jumpman93LP 3 роки тому +5

      you should listen to spiritbox!

    • @mariamiamonteleone
      @mariamiamonteleone 3 роки тому +2

      Yessss

    • @insomnia8995
      @insomnia8995 3 роки тому +15

      If y’all like hole and female grunge bands then y’all should listen to barb wire dolls, they’re a current band who are young and hungry and they’re so good.

    • @zoeyknipstein3701
      @zoeyknipstein3701 3 роки тому +8

      listen to Bikini Kill!

  • @ShakespearsCyst
    @ShakespearsCyst 6 місяців тому +29

    "I hexed him. Now he's losing his hair." Absolutely amazing 😂

  • @fionappleswings
    @fionappleswings 3 роки тому +582

    im not even kidding, live through this saved my life

    • @Elwyn_the_Weird
      @Elwyn_the_Weird 3 роки тому +10

      same.

    • @squid-ink74
      @squid-ink74 3 роки тому +9

      me too 🖤🧿

    • @Maudluvv
      @Maudluvv 3 роки тому +18

      Tbh idk if it saved my life but the first time i played violet i felt so much peace and i felt like i actually knew who i was for the first time :)

    • @Sam-xe2bz
      @Sam-xe2bz 3 роки тому +4

      mine too. 🖤

    • @erickmcmillan7062
      @erickmcmillan7062 3 роки тому +4

      Same here

  • @fezzian
    @fezzian 3 роки тому +379

    No musician has changed my life quite like Courtney has. I've survived childhood abuse, domestic abuse, and many other traumas. Her music has always allowed me to take the power back. I owe her so much.

    • @user-bt7ix6sw2g
      @user-bt7ix6sw2g 3 роки тому +17

      I feel you so much, she was the only one with me in my darkest times

    • @avoiceinthedark2028
      @avoiceinthedark2028 3 роки тому +6

      Me too! Live through this saved my life, I was 13 when I got it

    • @Dustpuma1
      @Dustpuma1 8 місяців тому

      And she ruined Kurt so yea gj loser

    • @lobotomyscam1051
      @lobotomyscam1051 7 місяців тому +1

      "Musician"? Listen to her isolated guitar tracks from live concerts. It sounds like a four-year-old getting his first guitar.

    • @stocks7765
      @stocks7765 6 місяців тому

      Mine also, she killed my hero😡

  • @_sam_ddn
    @_sam_ddn 3 роки тому +416

    I honestly don't like Courtney Love as a person. But "Live Through This" is an underrated gem of 90s Grunge albums. I wish more people listen to Hole rather than dismissing the band.

    • @zlamb8589
      @zlamb8589 3 роки тому +21

      totally true, courtney love has openly said very racist things but live through this is amazing

    • @doodleyourexampaper7995
      @doodleyourexampaper7995 2 роки тому +3

      @@zlamb8589 sources?

    • @chrissy3875
      @chrissy3875 2 роки тому

      FR

    • @devon2667
      @devon2667 2 роки тому +7

      @@doodleyourexampaper7995 literally just look it up

    • @dextermoore278
      @dextermoore278 2 роки тому +8

      Courtney is extremely intelligent and very talented. She is a really good Actress and I love her Music. Hole was a great band. I love Courtney ❤ 😍

  • @Cookie_DDD
    @Cookie_DDD 3 роки тому +392

    Courtney Love is a brilliant artist and "Live Through This" is a genius record. For women my age (teens or young adults when the record dropped) this album is sacred. Such a gift to the world. Thank you Trash Theory for delivering a video that is worthy of Courtney, Hole, and this tremendous album.

    • @90sArchive
      @90sArchive 3 роки тому +4

      @@lukehanlon3814 What a load of crap

    • @sumayyahazhar5954
      @sumayyahazhar5954 3 роки тому +14

      Honestly, just for women in general. I discovered live through this as a fifteen year old twenty two years after its release and it's sacred to me too. Stuff of legend, I'm envious you got to experience it first hand :)

    • @PollyGammy
      @PollyGammy 3 роки тому +12

      I was 12 or so when this dropped. It shaped my adolescence. Doll Parts was such a mind blowing experience. Somebody finally talked about how I felt. Violet, the title track, Jennifer’s Body. I fiercely support this album and always will.

    • @Pretermit_Sound
      @Pretermit_Sound 3 роки тому +4

      @@90sArchive he’s been spamming nearly every comment thread with that crap. Reported multiple times. Hopefully it’ll be deleted.

    • @davidellis5141
      @davidellis5141 3 роки тому +1

      Just became like #200

  • @HeatherMButler
    @HeatherMButler 3 роки тому +423

    Courtney Love is the anti-product of bands like The Runaways, Vixen, and presents a deeper feminist perspective than riot grrrl (which I love just as much). She is a victim who has absorbed the violence around her, just as many victims of trauma do. Unfortunately, she can’t make great music without it, or without contesters screaming that it was “written” by the men around her - Billy, Kurt, etc. Just as Krasner couldn’t escape the legacy of Pollock. I truly love Courtney and appreciate her music, and without her I wouldn’t be as confident in myself as I am today. She is a force to be reckoned with, and unfortunately a lot of “Grunge enthusiasts” still cannot reckon with her power.
    Sidenote: She isn’t perfect and still has abusive streaks, but look at every male rockstar that has ever been, and tell me they’re perfect, clean angels.

    • @stella-vu8vh
      @stella-vu8vh 3 роки тому +6

      Riot grrrl is horribly transphobic tbh. It's sad

    • @stella-vu8vh
      @stella-vu8vh 3 роки тому +4

      It isn't okay she's a shit person sometimes but it isn't shocking to see knowing her life story

    • @stella-vu8vh
      @stella-vu8vh 3 роки тому +10

      you are loved Riot grrl while important, excluded anyone who wasn't born into being a woman and there's a lot of vehement anti trans takes. I'm glad it's dead, and been replaced with transphobic pseudo intellectual "post leftist" theory. I have never experienced bigotry anywhere in the world like in oly, while at the same time experiencing progressive shit that only exists there. Wether riot grrl is transphobic or phobic of any other people, depends on the lens the person you're asking is looking thru, week to week. Go read some of the zines.

    • @chromerotica
      @chromerotica 3 роки тому +1

      Mostly because it was written by Kurt, at least the music aspect. He did most of the riffs and made the guitar shit. This entire album is just watered down nirvana album.

    • @chromerotica
      @chromerotica 3 роки тому +1

      @you are loved 🙄 I didn't because Courtney isn't a good person but from every report I've read, her music has been ghost written. Not the lyrics, those are her own, but the music itself isn't her own.

  • @entertain7us148
    @entertain7us148 3 роки тому +40

    I was about 14 when I first heard Live Through This, and I don't think any album has effected me more than that one. I was young and didn't understand every word, but the strength of the female artistry came through in every single bar - I resonated so strongly with those themes of discomfort in one's female body, feeling like your body doesn't belong to yourself, feeling as though you're a toy to be passed around, feeling that you're making yourself sick with insecurity and love. coming back to it at 21 is even more intense - I feel like I'm rediscovering a part of myself that exists in all young girls, but now with greater clarity.

  • @AGrrrlsTwoSoundCents
    @AGrrrlsTwoSoundCents 3 роки тому +440

    I don’t care what anybody says, I will always love her and her music will always be my emotional crutch. She got me through the hellish pits of girlhood and I am forever grateful for that 🖤

    • @saintnicole3209
      @saintnicole3209 3 роки тому +45

      seriously!! live through this is such an important album. especially for sexual assault survivors. this album helped me heal in ways that have never been matched

    • @lydiatankersley8154
      @lydiatankersley8154 3 роки тому +23

      She said the n word at a concert lol

    • @kaziasantos5460
      @kaziasantos5460 3 роки тому +11

      @@lydiatankersley8154 Cool.

    • @mrqs1549
      @mrqs1549 3 роки тому +16

      I love Miss Love. We all know there is a lot of sexism against her.

    • @take5transfat
      @take5transfat 3 роки тому +6

      @@lydiatankersley8154 k

  • @CounterFleche
    @CounterFleche 3 роки тому +145

    What a refreshing change to watch a video about Courtney Love that isn't full of toxic hate or conspiracy-theory nonsense. *Live Through This" is an amazing album.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 2 роки тому +7

      Courtney Love loved Kurt, She would have NEVER wanted or brought any harm to him. She tried to help him, but he didn't want to help himself.

  • @KS-oh9no
    @KS-oh9no 3 роки тому +531

    Courtney love as a person is controversial but as a musician she is brilliant

    • @Raitor33
      @Raitor33 3 роки тому +78

      it's really sad, because if it wasn't for all the stupid shit she's said and done, I'm sure people would recognize her talent and see her more as a legit artist like Kurt.

    • @90sArchive
      @90sArchive 3 роки тому +11

      @Dan D Listen to Garbadge Man and try saying that again...

    • @90sArchive
      @90sArchive 3 роки тому +10

      @Dan D This video covers this. Hole is more than just Courtney and a lot of LTT was written in 1991.

    • @90sArchive
      @90sArchive 3 роки тому +9

      @Dan D How about you actually watch the video you're commenting on... it literally covers that.
      Also nearly half of In Utero was written in 1991 or before, this kind of stuff isn't uncommon.

    • @90sArchive
      @90sArchive 3 роки тому +7

      @Dan D Incesticide is a compilation album, mostly consisting of songs from the Bleach era. None of it had songs recorded in 1992.
      Citation needed? Google is your friend. There are literal live performances, radio sessions, demos etc. of these songs from years prior, same goes for Hole.

  • @xForgottenSorrows
    @xForgottenSorrows 3 роки тому +110

    Live Through This is literally my comfort album I love it in its entirety so much

  • @fatbitch7168
    @fatbitch7168 2 роки тому +71

    she gets shamed for threatening to leave Kurt so he would go to rehab, but imagine having and raising a baby with an addict. The dimension of the problem goes unnoticed by many people

    • @buddingvenus8487
      @buddingvenus8487 2 роки тому +5

      Courtney was a huge addict as well.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 2 роки тому +8

      @@buddingvenus8487 She kept quitting Heroin because L.A and Seattle Welfare wanted to take Frances away from her and Kurt.

    • @Amalia-no7xt
      @Amalia-no7xt Рік тому +1

      I have always been a fan of Courtney, but Kurt wanted to divorce her and she was a drug addict year's before they even met.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 Рік тому +9

      @@Amalia-no7xt So was Kurt.

    • @godloveszaza
      @godloveszaza 10 місяців тому +2

      She gets shamed because she was involved in her own band members death and treated kurt and many others like 💩...she was a horrible person in her past and she's still suffering the consequences. Frances doesn't even like Courtney.

  • @ruthnaranjo957
    @ruthnaranjo957 3 роки тому +81

    "i'm not a woman, I'm a fucking force of nature" courtney love

  • @marcus8176
    @marcus8176 3 роки тому +179

    The more stuff I watch about Courtney the more I realize that main stream media, and jealous types really changed her persona. She was a renaissance women in a world not ready for her. Another awesome video m8 !

    • @shulabayley6270
      @shulabayley6270 3 роки тому +2

      No no noo. Research Kat bjelland please

    • @micnik3573
      @micnik3573 3 роки тому +2

      @@shulabayley6270 And?

    • @Pretermit_Sound
      @Pretermit_Sound 3 роки тому +7

      @@shulabayley6270 Kat is a legend in her own right. Being a native Minnesotan, I’m so proud she made her home in Minneapolis. Her and Courtney were in a band called Sugar Baby Doll together before she formed Babes in Toyland.

  • @wlewisiii
    @wlewisiii 3 роки тому +306

    Saw her perform just a few weeks after Kurt's suicide. That was, in a certain way, the most utterly punk performance I ever witnessed. Especially when she pulled a guy on stage, sang with him, stripped off her dress and then blamed him for stripping her and trying to beat the shit out of him while the band got him away. Yeah, last song of the set but what a set. Verruca Salt opened.

    • @asong4thedead
      @asong4thedead 3 роки тому +15

      She didnt play a "few weeks" after Kurt's death

    • @elisegilmer6290
      @elisegilmer6290 3 роки тому +3

      I saw that same tour too in high school 😃

    • @DanceMonkeyArtMan
      @DanceMonkeyArtMan 3 роки тому +27

      @@asong4thedead yes she did, i went to the same tour, i saw a toronto show. same opening act. it was amazing.

    • @asong4thedead
      @asong4thedead 3 роки тому +2

      @@DanceMonkeyArtMan on what date?

    • @BeeHatGuy
      @BeeHatGuy 3 роки тому +18

      I'm suspicious of this claim. Her bassist died not long after Kurt did & the band hired a new bassist and didn't start playing again until that fall

  • @mrrodriguezHLP
    @mrrodriguezHLP 3 роки тому +67

    Sunday morning in LA, sat down to have my coffee and what should surprise me on my UA-cam feed? Another gem. Thank you Trash Theory.

  • @soaribb32
    @soaribb32 3 роки тому +202

    You should talk about PJ Harvey too. Rid Of Me or To Bring You My Love.

    • @roskvamoller6655
      @roskvamoller6655 3 роки тому +2

      pj suuuuuckss

    • @witchhousetwerkteam
      @witchhousetwerkteam 3 роки тому +2

      yessssssssss!!!!!!!

    • @Maudluvv
      @Maudluvv 3 роки тому +18

      @@roskvamoller6655 everyone is entitled to their own opinions but pls never say that again🤚🏾

    • @imogen4535
      @imogen4535 3 роки тому +8

      @@Maudluvv exactly PJ is a legend 😤

    • @soaribb32
      @soaribb32 2 роки тому +1

      I came from the future to say I got what I wanted 💙💙💙

  • @julesvan
    @julesvan Рік тому +23

    1) Flyers from August 1991 have some "Violet" lyrics written on them.
    2) "Doll Parts" was written when Courtney found out Kurt was seeing other women just three weeks after their first s*xual encounter while on tour on the other side of the Atlantic ocean. They got serious after that (Nov 91).
    3) an early "Softer, Softest" was being played during POTI's tour in 1991.
    4) "Credit on the Straight World" is a cover.
    5) "I Think That I Would Die" was written in collaboration with CL's friendenemy, Kat Bjelland...
    What did Kurt exactly write? The liner notes on the booklet?

    • @vanessa.jasmine
      @vanessa.jasmine 4 місяці тому

      This. 100%. Hole was more of a band than Nirvana because they wrote music as a band vs. relying on one person to write an entire album.

  • @scottfree2248
    @scottfree2248 3 роки тому +34

    I am glad Kristen Pfaff was credited in this. She was a phenomenal bassist, musician, and artist. Truly a beautiful spirit who left this world way too soon.

  • @sstaners1234
    @sstaners1234 3 роки тому +41

    I know people trash talk Courtney Love but, I think she can write some good f**king lyrics. 20 years in the Dakota is one of my favorite Hole songs. I kinda wished it was on ‘live through this’.

  • @teoremadethalys
    @teoremadethalys 3 роки тому +129

    you should do a video on bjork's debut and how it was immersed in british club culture

    • @timvanboening9432
      @timvanboening9432 3 роки тому +6

      Yup! Her and her “jetto blaster!”

    • @stella-vu8vh
      @stella-vu8vh 3 роки тому +1

      Tim Van Boening SHAHA FUCK

    • @stella-vu8vh
      @stella-vu8vh 3 роки тому +3

      Tim Van Boening oh my god this is the funniest björk comment i ever did read on the youtube, and i thank you for that quip. I wish social media would reach the late stage of entropy where i can just pay a fee and get one liners that are good beamed to my spinal cord and frontal cortex on a steady content drip

  • @aurorareynolds585
    @aurorareynolds585 3 роки тому +39

    Live Through This is one of my favorite albums of all time and it makes me so happy to see it get the recognition it deserves.

  • @gardenboydon
    @gardenboydon 3 роки тому +37

    Thank you for documenting the importance of Love. As someone who is younger, I felt as if her legacy got overshadowed by Kurt's death and her controversial life

  • @RandomEye1131
    @RandomEye1131 3 роки тому +85

    I need to buy a copy of Live Through This. It seems like something I would like.
    Excellent video as always.

    • @Raitor33
      @Raitor33 3 роки тому +12

      If you like 90s grunge/alt rock, by all means give it a try

    • @barilochebarracuda846
      @barilochebarracuda846 3 роки тому +11

      oh yes! this album is so great, it's a punch in the stomach.

    • @safespacebear
      @safespacebear 3 роки тому +7

      DO IT! Give it a couple listens and you'll be a true believer! It's great if a bit brash in places.

    • @drugstoreeyeliner9936
      @drugstoreeyeliner9936 3 роки тому +3

      i love this album so much. you should definitely do that!!

  • @crysdee461
    @crysdee461 3 роки тому +60

    I started off as a Nirvana fan and for years I didn’t like Courtney Love because of her persona and how the media portrays her... until one day I decided to just listen to Live Through This just to see if her music was any good and I’ve loved that album ever since... it’s a near perfect album. Hole definitely doesn’t get the credit they deserve.

    • @Diocane81
      @Diocane81 2 роки тому

      that's because Cobain wrote most of the album, mate.

    • @Danathema
      @Danathema 2 роки тому +5

      @@Diocane81 No, he didn't. Cobain had severe writers block at the time it was written. He could barely finish In Utero, he had to use old songs and get Grohl's help. Many of the songs were written before Love met Cobain and there are dozens and dozens of people who worked on the record confirming that they saw and heard Hole writing the songs together without any input from Cobain who wasn't even in the vicinity.

    • @Diocane81
      @Diocane81 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@Danathema I'd never believe a word of what Courtney Love or anyone of her close circle of people say

    • @Paula-kr2gj
      @Paula-kr2gj Рік тому

      @@Diocane81 you’re very dumb, the songs are from a total female pov, ask any girl about the what they think about when they listen to violet, asking for it, and then, ask to a man…

    • @Paula-kr2gj
      @Paula-kr2gj Рік тому +2

      @@Diocane81 there are archives of her playing Violet in 1991!

  • @Littlestraincloud
    @Littlestraincloud 3 роки тому +40

    Thank you for covering this album, TT. I grew up listening to this album because it's as old as I am, and it's like a part of me now. All that rage and disgust I didn't know how to express, it's on there. Thank you for representing Courtney as she is, and not some evil punk jezebel. I always appreciate the work you put into your videos.

  • @maxoliver1564
    @maxoliver1564 3 роки тому +50

    I'm always shocked when documentaries, podcasts and the likes, covering the subject of females in rock, continually overlook or fail to mention the band L7!!! Its seriously like the band that never existed when it comes to female influences in rock history. L7 was one of my favorite bands when I was in high-school and helped fueled my fire (pun intended) to learn how to play guitar. I wonder if anyone else even remembers this band or also thinks that its a little strange they rarely get a shout out or the credit they deserve. 🤔

    • @mysteriiis
      @mysteriiis 3 роки тому +3

      L7 is the shit!

    • @planetmotherfuckers
      @planetmotherfuckers 3 роки тому +3

      i get really frustrated because i never get to gush about this kind of music with anyone for the most part, and then I can and drop L7 and am met with crickets. I fucking Love L7. I feel like Hole was like the primer for me to get into them in a way. I needed something angrier and more “I don’t really give a FUCK “, and their music is so much more androgynous i guess? Not exactly the word I want to use but the best I’ve got right now. It’s just easy listening for me. I fucking love L7.

    • @mysteriiis
      @mysteriiis 3 роки тому +1

      @@planetmotherfuckers That totally makes sense. It's not 'girl music', it's just metal.

    • @mysteriiis
      @mysteriiis 3 роки тому

      @@planetmotherfuckers If you haven't, you should check out Otep. Savage frontwoman, lots of dark and personal subject matter, and political as hell.

    • @mysteriiis
      @mysteriiis 3 роки тому

      @@planetmotherfuckers I really, really wish I'd discovered these bands when I was in high school. I'd heard Hole's cover of 'Gold Dust Woman' on the Crow: City of Angels' soundtrack; but never thought to go further. I must have discovered L7 off the 'Natural Born Killers' soundtrack. Several years after it came out.

  • @pigguy
    @pigguy 3 роки тому +537

    Maybe I'm a heretic, but I've always found Hole way more interesting than Nirvana

    • @sophitsa79
      @sophitsa79 3 роки тому +49

      I confess I never really "got" Nirvana like others seem to

    • @fionappleswings
      @fionappleswings 3 роки тому +15

      same

    • @klawis
      @klawis 3 роки тому +42

      Same. I love Nirvana but I became into that band because of Hole

    • @arthurfleck816
      @arthurfleck816 3 роки тому +11

      Same. Hole’s earlier albums were great.

    • @karlasanchez5119
      @karlasanchez5119 3 роки тому +6

      Same

  • @soaribb32
    @soaribb32 3 роки тому +59

    That album is a blast

  • @yy-hj4br
    @yy-hj4br 3 роки тому +50

    Live Through This and Pretty on the Inside are bangers. Pretty on the Inside is one of the few female fronted hardcore punk albums I know of.

  • @justacatwhocantype
    @justacatwhocantype Рік тому +8

    Live Through This was one of the most important albums of my life. Really love it, and forever greatful that someone wrote me a soundtrack.

  • @ciudadanakane8743
    @ciudadanakane8743 3 роки тому +12

    live through this, NIN, PJ Harvey, John waters and Juliette lewis were everything to me at my childhood.

    • @Sam-xe2bz
      @Sam-xe2bz 3 роки тому +1

      I love John waters and Juliette lewis omg

    • @ciudadanakane8743
      @ciudadanakane8743 3 роки тому

      @@Sam-xe2bz the 90's were the best on movies and music!!!

  • @necr0_nobody
    @necr0_nobody 2 роки тому +9

    im not a fan of courtney as a person really but live through this is an amazing album and deserves all the credit it has. it was important as fuck for the time, for music in general, and for me as a woman.

  • @acetate909
    @acetate909 3 роки тому +51

    Back when we had interesting rock stars and artistic guitar sounds were regularly heard on radio.

  • @fatbitch7168
    @fatbitch7168 2 роки тому +9

    that abusive episode from part of the crowd is horrific; no one deserves that and that must have been truly scarring and traumatizing

  • @beercheersrccrawlers
    @beercheersrccrawlers 3 роки тому +26

    This album is still in my rotation..I think "Plump" has a lot for a simple track.

  • @04opocin
    @04opocin 3 роки тому +12

    “I was a total Bunnymen / Psychedelic Furs / Smiths freak”...“the guy from Pavement came up to me and was like 'You 're so brave to cover a Bunnymen song; I wouldn't have the nerve' ”...“nobody admits that Echo And The Bunnymen were the greatest band”...“what's funny is that a lot of our songs are complete Bauhaus ripoffs”...“my guitar playing is totally picked up from Will Sergeant and Johnny Marr, as a reference to these British bands; nobody would guess that, because of the persona that has been forced on me”...“On 'Pretty on the inside' I was competing with my few peers at the time, people that were really into Sonic Youth, Pussy Galore, Richard Kern and I felt intimidated by that.” ‎- Courtney Love (In depth MTV interview with Kurt Loder, September 1, 1994)
    ua-cam.com/video/tgrNjS29lDg/v-deo.html

  • @phoenixivyroots7084
    @phoenixivyroots7084 2 роки тому +7

    Live through this profoundly affected me as a teen, giving me a place to express the abuse, suffering and anger I experienced growing up. The brilliance of her music and the meaning in the music is intense - with a different perspective of feminism I had not been exposed to. It was the beginnings of me understanding myself which propelled me further in exploring the topics she sings about and more.
    Great video. It is appreciated.

  • @vanessaviolet74
    @vanessaviolet74 3 роки тому +3

    Great video and insight into the lyrics. Live Through This will always be one of my favourite albums, so much raw energy.

  • @stella-vu8vh
    @stella-vu8vh 3 роки тому +75

    thanks for objective content instead of just being a dummy. most people who don't like courtney also are full of bad takes about women, and rage against them, and are usually pretty misogynistic. I have complicated feelings about her, and kurt was right about why she gets shat on, but, goddamn, there are too many questions and it was such a big deal you'd think there wouldn't be

  • @Aaine784
    @Aaine784 Рік тому +4

    I'm 50 this year and I still listen to this album regularly. It came out when I was going through a really dark period personally and from the first listen I was absolutely hooked.
    Love her or hate her, this album is a masterpiece.

  • @burnthewitchesinsideus
    @burnthewitchesinsideus 3 роки тому +6

    I was 13 in 1995 and LTT has been my rock ever since. I'm nearly 40 years old, with three kids and somehow this is still my go to. Courtney changed everything for me and gave me a voice when I didn't have one.

  • @alisterfolson
    @alisterfolson 3 роки тому +45

    Courtney Love is some kind of muse for artists, good and bad.
    *"I don’t care what the newspapers say about me as long as they spell my name right."* - P.T. Barnum

  • @dadevi
    @dadevi 3 роки тому +8

    I grew up in a religious household not knowing a damn thing about rock music until my parents finally got cable in '98. I missed out on Hole's earlier albums, but Celebrity Skin was a revelation. I have mixed feelings about CL as a person, but she's one hell of an artist. Shout out to her for breaking the mold.

  • @bimbowithadegree420
    @bimbowithadegree420 3 роки тому +10

    Live through this is absolutely my favourite grunge album. It's so good, courtney is a great song writer and lead woman. I relate so much to her experiences with relationships, abuse, etc. She is a troubled person, but she is a great artist

  • @ciaraskeleton
    @ciaraskeleton Рік тому +8

    I just adore the way she writes. I can't get enough! The way she's able to put dark topics into beautiful understated words is phenomenal. I truly admire her as a person for her consistent ruthlessness. Until this day she has held the same morals, views and opinions. She spoke up for women long before anyone gave a shit about us, she got so much shit for everything even though she was no worse than any man in punk/alt/grunge.

    • @Danathema
      @Danathema 10 місяців тому +1

      I love both Hole and Nirvana and you have to love the way that the people who call her a "disgusting junkie" absolutely worship Kurt Cobain without any sense of irony at all.

    • @ciaraskeleton
      @ciaraskeleton 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Danathema Absolutely same, I'm a huge fan of both! People shit on Courtney and forget that Kurt literally loved the woman yk?? 🤣

    • @Danathema
      @Danathema 10 місяців тому

      @@ciaraskeleton He told people that too. Many times. He also told anyone who didn't like it to go fuck themselves. I don't think they listened.
      Also, the ones so fixated on what they believe his suicide note is in relation to their stupid conspiracy theories would do well to actually read it - focusing on the "I have a goddess of a wife" bit.

  • @braxdawusky1087
    @braxdawusky1087 3 роки тому +48

    Billy Corgans birthstone is Aquamarine. Kurt's birthstone is Amethyst

    • @jessicanowakowski8475
      @jessicanowakowski8475 3 роки тому +6

      I thought Kurt was a Pisces? Hence the lyrics in Heart Shaped Box... “She eyes me like a Pisces when I am weak” If we are going by sun signs. I am an Aquarius sun and my birthstone is Amethyst.

    • @braxdawusky1087
      @braxdawusky1087 3 роки тому +14

      @@jessicanowakowski8475 kurt is a pisces. His birthday is Feb 20th. Feb = Amethyst

    • @robinbradbury6493
      @robinbradbury6493 3 роки тому +11

      March Pisces is Aquamarine, Feb Pisces is amethyst.

    • @jessicanowakowski8475
      @jessicanowakowski8475 3 роки тому

      @@braxdawusky1087 Awesome. Thanks for the info. ☺ makes sense now.

    • @starrynight6629
      @starrynight6629 3 роки тому

      @@robinbradbury6493 true.
      Are u really that Robin?

  • @elm1230
    @elm1230 3 роки тому +16

    This woman is a true poet! and to me, the embodiment of raw, true, unbridled, female essence. She really personifies ideas of unhinged feminine nature and emotionality. I think that’s why she resonates with so many women, her music gives women permission to be women, untethered from the masculine forces that work to keep the more chaotic natures of women “rational”. She’s not afraid to show the ugly parts of femaleness, and that’s what gives her so much punch. Even in her most unlady like behavior, she remains undeniably feminine.

  • @tedlogan5628
    @tedlogan5628 3 роки тому +62

    I know when it comes to Love and her ties to Kurt, it becomes a minefield. Most people I know who liked the alternative stuff from that era don't really care for Love. So her albums usually get over looked or dismissed outright. Nice to see vids like yours doing deep dives into what went on and why.

    • @FetishonyoutubeURL
      @FetishonyoutubeURL 3 роки тому +8

      They don’t care about her cause they think she killed kurt.

    • @tedlogan5628
      @tedlogan5628 3 роки тому +4

      @@FetishonyoutubeURL Most of them do. Haha

    • @LeshaAnn
      @LeshaAnn 3 роки тому +16

      @@FetishonyoutubeURL Then they're dumbshit conspiracy theorists.

    • @mysteriiis
      @mysteriiis 3 роки тому +11

      They ones that hate her can't accept that their grunge messiah blew his brains out for no good reason. The dude had a kid; and could afford mental health care his most troubled fans could only dream of accessing. A number of whom committed suicide after his death.

  • @ennuibarbie
    @ennuibarbie 3 роки тому +9

    Live Through This and Fiona Apple's Tidal truly saved my life.

  • @michiganjfrog366
    @michiganjfrog366 3 роки тому +3

    I bought Live Through This for everyone in my family at Christmas. I went to the concert (Veruca Salt) opened.. It was at St.Andrews Hall too.. 10/15or25/94 it still in my top 3 concerts. Patty Schemel was amazing.

  • @Avinkwep
    @Avinkwep 3 роки тому +30

    easily my favorite album of the 90s

    • @Ravioli-uw9uy
      @Ravioli-uw9uy 3 роки тому +1

      Shes great, but its gotta be Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness for me

    • @cornholio47
      @cornholio47 3 роки тому

      @@Ravioli-uw9uy I love melon collie and in utero, they are both amazing albums

  • @DavidDatura
    @DavidDatura 2 місяці тому

    That was a great mini-documentary! The best I’ve seen on this channel so far.

  • @JM-qz3hm
    @JM-qz3hm 3 роки тому +14

    Courtney Love is one of my favourites. Some of Hole's best work was in their lesser knowns/b-sides, I'd recommend 20 years in the Dakota, Drown soda, Be a man... and their cover of It's all over now, baby blue by bob dylan

    • @stella-vu8vh
      @stella-vu8vh 3 роки тому

      Thank you this is my list too.

  • @JamesByronMusic
    @JamesByronMusic 3 роки тому +5

    You probably should mention how "violet" is a reply to The mentors "sandwhich of love" . It blew my mind listening to that song after listening to violet.

  • @teethgrinder83
    @teethgrinder83 3 роки тому +16

    Say what you like about Love, "Live through this" is a cracking album

  • @04opocin
    @04opocin 3 роки тому +8

    The change in the band's sound was already evident on their single ''My beautiful son'' that was released in the UK on April 4, 1993 (Beautiful son / 20 years in the Dakota... / Old age).

  • @dahliasdarkside1695
    @dahliasdarkside1695 3 роки тому +35

    I've resigned myself as a Hole fan to that fact that most people (predominantly men) are always going to give me shit for like Hole and Courtney and you know what fuck it im at peace with that.

    • @tonosazules8221
      @tonosazules8221 2 роки тому

      oh...come on...that hate for men...

    • @dahliasdarkside1695
      @dahliasdarkside1695 2 роки тому +2

      @@tonosazules8221 no hate, it just be like that sometimes.

    • @tonosazules8221
      @tonosazules8221 2 роки тому

      @@dahliasdarkside1695 The reason idiots hate Courtney does NOT have to do with her gender, it's because that lie they say she killed useless Cobain, he killed himself, he was a coward.

    • @Mrcityhorror
      @Mrcityhorror 2 роки тому +2

      I’m a guy and I think think live through this is a masterpiece my guy friends like to hate on hole and Courtney but it never stopped me playing these songs on full blast. There’s something about Courtney that really threatens certain males.

    • @Danathema
      @Danathema 2 роки тому +3

      I like Hole and I'm a guy. I've only gotten shit from obsessed Cobain fans who are in some parasocial relationship with him and believe he's some kind of angel sent to Earth that she took from them.

  • @sheltertwo7957
    @sheltertwo7957 2 роки тому +5

    I’m so glad to see a music channel finally give this woman some credit. Courtney survived a Britney-level beat down from the media & nobody looks back on that with a critical eye. Even Kurt couldn’t stand what they did to her.

  • @tomasjohn622
    @tomasjohn622 3 роки тому

    thank u! amazing watch, Live Through This helped me so many times through my life during some really hard moments.. one of my all-time favorite records

  • @beepboop3540
    @beepboop3540 3 роки тому +1

    I listened to Live Through This on repeat when I was in high school❤️
    Thanks for making this video

  • @JacobLomax
    @JacobLomax 3 роки тому +17

    Live Through This has some of the best songs and they lyrically surpass anything Kurt Cobain did imo

    • @knifeknerdreviews4609
      @knifeknerdreviews4609 9 місяців тому +1

      You know what, it does... She wanted to be better than kurt and truly she was... I'm not rocking out to Nirvana very much these days but I listen to Hole all the time. The Kurt influence clearly brought out the best in Courtney because she had a goal in mind, beat Kurt and she met that goal...

  • @karlasanchez5119
    @karlasanchez5119 3 роки тому +26

    Live Through This is the best grunge album of all time I don’t make the rules, Courtney Love’s songwriting is top tier

  • @RoxanneLaWinSTABBY
    @RoxanneLaWinSTABBY 3 роки тому +9

    Live Through This has been my fav record since I bought it on CD in 1994, the same week Kurt died. I needed that record at that time, I think a lot of us did.
    Anyway, just needed to say I learned a lot from this video, despite it being in my frequent rotation for, shit, 27 years.
    I was at at Hole gig in 1994, just a 13yr old Riot Grl, when my dress was ripped to tatters in the mosh pit, due to being groped by dozens of adult men. The band stopped the gig, and I was pulled up onto the staged given water, cigarettes and a t shirt to cover myself before the launched back into Asking For It. I didn’t know until today that that song was borne of a far too similar incident Courtney experienced.

  • @golddustwoman104
    @golddustwoman104 3 роки тому +3

    I've been a Fan-atic of Hole and Courtney Love since 91's "Pretty on the Inside". Of Course, I've seen just about every UA-cam Video about her and I gotta tell ya, the way you structured this Video was Awesome, man! You surprised me, there were 1 or 2 bits of info I didn't know🙀
    Great f***ing Topic done Brilliantly! You got a New Subscriber, My Friend.

  • @hildalilja6649
    @hildalilja6649 3 роки тому +2

    great video as always!! live through this is such a great album

  • @ericab1302
    @ericab1302 Рік тому +2

    "I hexed him.
    Now he's losing his hair."
    I..... 🤣

  • @TheFashionsketcher
    @TheFashionsketcher 3 роки тому +19

    Thank you so much for discussing one of my favourite albums ever

  • @learnerlove6853
    @learnerlove6853 3 роки тому +36

    a lovely, nuanced retrospective.

  • @abigailk2473
    @abigailk2473 3 роки тому +2

    I owe my mom to knowing Hole. I grew up listening to Hole, Courtney's solo work such as America's sweetheart, I grew up on Garbage, No doubt, and Fiona Apple. Beautiful vocals, strong lyrics and such amazing sounds, I appreciate each of these bands for their unique works and making my childhood and teenage years forever amazing.🤘🏻💕

  • @brandonpage7087
    @brandonpage7087 3 роки тому +12

    I'm a Hole fan, always have been, & proud of it. You can say whatever you want about Courtney, idc, i'm still a fan of Hole. Also, I never have, & never will buy into the tired conspiracy theory, of how she supposedly murdered Kurt.

  • @MaxOakland
    @MaxOakland 3 роки тому +5

    Now I want an in depth video about what inspired the songs on Pretty on the Inside

  • @safespacebear
    @safespacebear 3 роки тому +37

    I detest Courtney Love but "Live Through This" was one of the greatest albums in the 90s. "Violet" is an amazing track that any artist would be jealous of. "Softer, Softest", "Jennifer's Body", gosh...pretty much everything but "Gutless" (which isn't bad just isn't as good as the rest) are an amazing set of songs.
    I was a huge Nirvana fan but my appreciation for that album had nothing to do with her connection to Kurt and it offends me as well when people claim that Kurt must have helped her write it. I do think Love being exposed to Kurt's brilliance rubbed off on her a bit and without his greatness to challenge her creativity we'd never have seen this album....but it is entirely from Hole.

    • @safespacebear
      @safespacebear 3 роки тому +5

      @Dan D yeah probably, also when you factor in the death of her band mate and husband and that she tried her hand at acting it makes sense she wouldn't equal that effort.

    • @caranelson7457
      @caranelson7457 3 роки тому

      Best comment I've seen!

  • @ghazeleyedgrrrl
    @ghazeleyedgrrrl 3 роки тому

    Well done video - enjoyed watching it very much!

  • @thegeecyproject
    @thegeecyproject 3 роки тому +41

    You should do a video on Liz Phair’s Exile In Guyville!

    • @josecuervogold1800
      @josecuervogold1800 3 роки тому +2

      That would be a better starting point if they wanted to dive into influential female musicians from the 90s.

    • @caranelson7457
      @caranelson7457 3 роки тому +2

      Yes! Brilliant album!

  • @Gmodenjoyeronsteam
    @Gmodenjoyeronsteam 3 роки тому +4

    i have loved courtney since kurt was still alive. im from athens and there were sightings of kurt there with michael stipe. hes still here and he just lives a normal life. most people try not to bother him when hes downtown out and about. courtney wass essential role model for me being a girl in music.

  • @theHalken
    @theHalken 2 роки тому +2

    I never thought of the title being Live THROUGH This, always Live Through THIS. It's really interesting thing to think about how it changes the sentence when putting the emphasis on a different word.

  • @hervvo
    @hervvo 3 роки тому

    I'd love to see a video on The Knife / Fever Ray / Karin Dreijer. Your videos are amazing, keep it up :)

  • @xomarie
    @xomarie 3 роки тому +17

    personally, i love her. thanks for this

  • @BlakeBlackstone
    @BlakeBlackstone 3 роки тому +5

    I bought the Live Through This vinyl a couple years ago. The record store asked if they could take a picture of my holding the album for their instagram. I guess I chose a good record to them. lol

  • @ioneaxelrod7203
    @ioneaxelrod7203 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you for doing a good video on Courtney. She's really slept on as an artist.

  • @mninamaia
    @mninamaia 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you SO MUCH for this video, it made my day. This is one of my all time favorites for life. I love this record forever

  • @colbyshea5915
    @colbyshea5915 Рік тому +2

    Live Through This was such an important album for me in the nineties. I totally emulated to fashion too, running around in petticoats and fishnets…. and it’s pretty cold where I live!

  • @vmcampos
    @vmcampos 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you, THANK YOU for this video. You crystalized feelings I would not be able to put forth, myself. Live Through This is a powerful, beautiful, resonant album that everyone can relate to.

  • @julianwalch3567
    @julianwalch3567 3 роки тому +5

    Usual great taste in your choice of subject.Cheers!

  • @mikaelizabeth
    @mikaelizabeth 3 роки тому +3

    this video is great and i understand why you only talked about courtney love's music leading up to 1994, but im surprised there wasn't at least a mention of "julian, i'm a little older than you" from her solo debut... that song sure exists doesn't it

  • @jpittmon1363
    @jpittmon1363 3 роки тому +6

    Pretty on the Inside was mostly produced by Gumball's Don Flemming even Kim Gordon acknowledges in her memoir.

  • @mrpedantic
    @mrpedantic 3 роки тому +3

    This series does better than Behind the Music. Keep it up.

  • @Terry_Bell
    @Terry_Bell 3 роки тому +6

    When TT makes a video about Garbage I'll go manic.I can feel it coming

  • @criticalhit009
    @criticalhit009 3 роки тому +1

    I didn't know to much about Hole, but this makes we want to dive into their catalogue!

  • @alysonm7757
    @alysonm7757 3 роки тому +2

    First listened to this album in middle school and now I have 'live through this' tattooed on my arm in my sister's handwriting. I couldn't even explain the significance this album has to me

  • @gardenboydon
    @gardenboydon 3 роки тому

    You really are doing something special with this channel

  • @ratacastillo3508
    @ratacastillo3508 3 роки тому +5

    I always come back to this album when I need strength to live through the toughest times. Very fittingly named.
    Also I absolutely LOVE this channel. nvn

  • @rnrpeg1
    @rnrpeg1 7 місяців тому +1

    Wow. Loved this. (No pun ). As Music Director of a then-important New Rock station in San Diego when this came out - I got caught up in the anti -Courtney hype and really wanted to hate this record. I hadn't been moved at all by their first release. But I still remember blasting the full cd over and over 3x before work one morning, and showing up at the station demanding it be added to our playlist immediately. I thought the entire record was brilliant. And frankly, if Kurt had written the songs, I couldn't understand why they were so much more in your face than anything on Nevermind.
    Went to a few shows soon after where she proved that if she was an asshole, she was the absolute real deal as a rock star. The band was fantastic. I saw Hole put on a swealtering rock barrage at The Hollywood Palladium, and you could never convince me Courtney lacked her own talent. Plus, those songs are so iconically female in perspective, that I doubt Eric had much hand lyrically. Kurt respected his wife too much to even try to write anything for her.
    Meanwhile...Francis Bean just married Tony Hawk's son here last week. Crazy. It's sad to think of how proud Kurt would have been at a time like this. 🥺

  • @julesso.o
    @julesso.o 3 роки тому +2

    21:07 oh my gosh i love beabadoobee!! fake it flowers is amazing