Lilo & Stitch casting controversy is NOT comparable to The Little Mermaid
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2023
- I could go on for even longer, but this breaks down why the casting for Nani in the live-action Lilo & Stitch is putrid & the casting for Ariel in the live-action Little Mermaid is perfection...& anybody who thinks that's a double standard truly needs to seek cultural context or therapy.
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It really bothered me when they casted Nani because even in lilo and stitch there’s deleted scenes that dealt with the struggle of indigenous Hawaiians and the tourist that go and treat them like an attraction. That’s the backstory to why Lilo takes pictures of the tourists. Because she’s processing as a little girl the way that they treat he given she’s a native Hawaiian with indigenous roots. To recast Nani as someone without that nuanced background basically erases the whole point of the story especially when her being indigenous is partially a reason why social services is so on top of her too! Keep in mind she was already having a hard time with them BEFORE stitch even showed up.
Also I love Halle I’ve always loved her ethereal voice ever since I came across her and Chloe’s cover of pretty hurts by Beyoncé.
The girl who was casted as Nani is in fact native Hawaiian sistah. Who the heck you? You one Hawaiian braddah? Cuz let me tell you this straight sistah mary, Hawaiians come in choke frickin shades cuz. I'm tan, I look Hawaiian because of my dad. But theirs something haoles don't understand is that we all hella mixed. My brothers are a perfect mix of Japanese and Hawaiian yet look white to haoles and popolo's. And I'm mistaken as Hispanic or Egyptian all the time in the mainland bc no one knows what Hawaiians really look like. The Nani actress is a beautiful example of our mixed culture in Hawai'i. If people want representation, heres your true representation. A mixed Hawaiian
@@legitdetective5594as shown in the video, she was only born in Hawaii. Her ethnicity is not based in the indigenous people
@@gabbylindyYou can search it up, everything says shes of Hawaiian and Filipino ancestry
@@legitdetective5594 You left out the fact that her mother is completely white.
@@Shmurph does that matter??? You know basically all Hawaiians are mixed...RIGHT???? My mom is Japanese/British and married a White/Hawaiian man. Both her and my dad are born and raised in Oahu. Both of them are local to the island. Does that make them any less Hawaiian? Your reasoning makes no sense nor proves anything. Her mom being fully white doesn't make Sydney any less Hawaiian. Real Hawaiians are the locals, doesn't matter if you one haole, popolo, ect. Quit being all high maka maka and acting like one mahu tryna tell me one local aint one local because her mom one full haole.
Even if she comes from Hawaii that doesn't make her Polynesian. Giving the role of Nani to someone who was only born into Hawaii is ignoring the problems many indigenous Hawaiians face and completely ignores Nani and Lilo's situation as outcasts in their own land by rich white tourists.
Well, what about Snow White, a German woman played by a latino, or Astrid, a Viking girl played by a Brown skinned actress? If you're fine with these castings but you are not fine with the Nani casting, then you're an hypocrite.
@@martinmarsano3960 Nunca estuvimos de acuerdo, pero si así se van a poner las cosas entonces que Astrid sea negra y blanca nieves china, cómansela completa si quieren ir solo de un lado
@@martinmarsano3960Rachel is white and German also being Latina isn’t a race do research
@@omzh501 "You all are so annoying these days. Bro, she's Hawaiian. Siena was born in Kauai, Hawaii to parents Karen and Kenneth Agudong. She states that she is of Caucasian, Filipino, and Polynesian descent. She has an older sister, Sydney, who inspired her to act. Next time when you trying to make up stuff, get your facts right."
If you’re born somewhere, that makes you a native, so I don’t know why people keep trying to act like you have to be an ethnic group to be a part of a land or culture or a place but you don’t.
The tourist wasn’t even part of a plot so I don’t know where you keep injecting real life issues into the story, but that wasn’t a part of it. I saw the deleted scene, but I don’t know who actually goes to Hawaii in the western world and does that. 😂
Maybe somebody from China who’s never stepped outside the country or seen another ethnicity other than her own 😂😂😂
But nobody in the western world does that😂😂😂
We’re well-versed in diversity here and if they do,it’s a very very very very small group of people.
But they have to cast the Polynesian woman because the characters are Polynesian you can’t just cast the black girl or white girl or a Spanic girl in those rolls
Kind of like a certain little mermaid character…hmmmmmmmmm
Every Casting for Disney live Actions Remakes always goes to hit and miss category
As a black woman, Nani was such an important character to me. Tiana was not created until 2009, so many black girls had to live through Nani and Jasmine when it came to looks. I loved Lilo and Stitch and I always thought Nani was so pretty. Not only was she not white washed, but she also had a curvy body and a big nose with full lips. You stated everything that I had been thinking in this video. Ariel was a fictional character and historically white people have not been ignored or left out of media due to their race.
Exactly! Nani was gorgeous and her body was just like mine and I had never seen that on film except for animation specifically for Black audiences like BeBe’s kids or Proud Family.
I'm sorry but I don't get your point. I didn't like Ariel and I don't like Nani either. They should look like the originals. Period. Us whites from other parts of the world who had nothing to do with slavery shouldn't put up with this guilt you people try to put into everyone who isn't your skin color just so you can have a special treatment. Whites should stay white and blacks should stay black, I really don't think I'm asking something that frivolous.
@@tick_tack you are a classic r@cist with wh1te fragility. this whole "it was not me it was my ancestors" argument is BS. What your ancestors did effected blk people for CENTURIES and there are still racist practices being done all over the world.
Secondly, The Little Mermaid is a FICTIONAL CHARACTER. Ariel's race did not matter to the plot and, since you seem very dim witted, MERMAIDS DONT EXIST. It does not matter what race places a FICTIONAL CHARACTER. Also, Ariel was not white in the original story. The littel mermaid is an ancient story that has been retold by many different cultures. Its the same thing with Cinderella. The original Cinderella story was written in Egypt and they are NOT wh!te.
Nobody wants special treatment. "You people" are just mad that you no longer are getting the "special treatment" that you think you deserve. Everyone deserves to be represented. This is nothing new. Brandy played Cinderella in the 90s and there was The Wiz in the 70s which was has an entire black cast. Yt people have not been ignored in cinema and have not been held back from roles like blk people have.
Anybody that uses the term "you people" is a textbook r@c1st. It's not my problem that you dont like blk people. Halle did amazing as Ariel and you cant see past her skin color. Emma Watson was trash as Belle even though they were the same race.
@@jalondradavis1565 I'm sure for a lot of red headed girls Aerial was someone who represented them, how did that turn out with the live action lol. Your all hypocrites. Besides, Sydney is actually Hawaiian (from the same island Lilo & Stitch takes place.) She's going to be bringing lots of authentic culture to the role.
All you f*ckers wanted was another race swap. You probably wanted Nani to be played by a black girl, right?
What you said is absolutely true. The liberals all called us racists when we had a problem with Ariel being black but how dare they cast a Hawaiian that is not dark enough. Suddenly, accuracy of character matters. The argument that Ariel isn’t real doesn’t make sense. Nani isn’t real either. She lives in a fictional world inhabited by aliens. The bottom line is that liberals are racists.
To answer you question in the end:
Tbh, for Nani's casting - I didn't before I watched this video, now I do. Seeing that they casted an actual native Hawaiian for Lilo (if I remember it correctly), why can't they find one for Nani? For sure, they will work on another storyline to counter their decision for having her for the role like Disney always does.
For Ariel, I'm already one-hundred percent behind even before they started filming the movie. Halle has all of the qualities that Ariel possess and her skin tone shouldn't even matter when the original story doesn't even have a specific race nor place where it happened so that's where a lot of things could change as long as they keep the already existing storyline. They did with "The Little Mermaid", so what are they even complaining about?
At this point, I do wish Disney could just NOT do any remakes for the meantime and focus on other projects. It is sad to see that new stories aren't getting the love they deserve.
People tell Disney to focus on new projects but when they do, they don't even bother checking so where's the common sense? Left the roof. Kinda annoying, tbh.
Agreed!
Seems like people think being born in Hawaii is the same as being native Hawaiian, which just shows how ignorant people can be. The only reason David got recasted was because the original actor got into some controversies. Unless that actress has controversies that Disney can't ignore, Disney won't kick her out of the project just because she is born in Hawaii (even though she is not native Hawaiian). Honestly, seems like the only way for nani to get recasted is for that actress to leave the role willingly.
Apparently she is 25% indigenous native Hawaiian( Polynesian) and her immediate family are actually are all Hawaiian( Polynesian).
So far many people over look the fact she actually have indigenous Hawaiian blood from her dad side who was Filipino Hawaiian.
Exactly, they tell Disney to make new projects and when they do they barely make any money, so that's why I feel they create more remakes just because 🤷🏽♀️
@@CrimsonEclipse Doesn't matter what her ancestry is if people's immediate reaction is "she doesn't look like the character".
The filmmakers of Lilo and Stitch (Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois) sought out for a less "ideal" representation of women in the original film. Lilo and Nani are deliberately not like Ariel or Pocahontas, because not all women look like that, and studies suggested that this was affecting many girls' perception of their own bodies. The fact that the live action is skipping this part is truly disappointing to me, because this actress playing Nani is very much canonically pretty. Disney should not come and say it's because they want to avoid stereotyping hawaiian people, because wide-nosed and bottom-heavy women do exist.
You said nothing wrong and hit the nail on the head. Yt folks always say Black and Brown people just like complaining, but I'm sorry; when you get representation that's full of biracial light-skinned women you get mad after a while. Zoe Saldana should not have played Nina Simone....oh wait that did happen.
Us DSBW were called angry, bitter, ugly and told "bLAck cOmEs iN aLL shAdEs" 🙃
The older I get the more I realize people are happy being loud and wrong. The fact that you had to make this video is extremely disappointing but not surprising.
As someone mixed myself I agree. If they're biracial, but they actually look like the character then fine. However, if they don't look like the character they shouldn't be cast and mixed people shouldn't be the ONLY minority representation that we see. That's basically just as bad as when light skinned monoracials would constantly be cast over those who were darker. And it's also hypocritical that when Disney casts people who are half white as Jasmine, Nani, ect. it's deemed as perfectly fine. However, when a minority or even someone biracial ( hence the Rachel Ziegler situation) plays a white character, it's an issue
I’m legit upset about Nani being white but was also upset about Ariel being black. Just admit you lack integrity here
It’s not fine, I want Nani to be like she was in the original and I’m white. I also want Ariel to be the same. Copium
@@dp503 "You all are so annoying these days. Bro, she's Hawaiian. Siena was born in Kauai, Hawaii to parents Karen and Kenneth Agudong. She states that she is of Caucasian, Filipino, and Polynesian descent. She has an older sister, Sydney, who inspired her to act. Next time when you trying to make up stuff, get your facts right."
"You all are so annoying these days. Bro, she's Hawaiian. Siena was born in Kauai, Hawaii to parents Karen and Kenneth Agudong. She states that she is of Caucasian, Filipino, and Polynesian descent. She has an older sister, Sydney, who inspired her to act. Next time when you trying to make up stuff, get your facts right."
This why disney need stop this live action movie never get it right
They do it so they can get money for original and there supposed to be like broadway producations
They will never stop until they go bankrupt. They are already firing people from left and right for money lost for past projects.
I just don't get how they can cast the perfect Lilo, but miscast Nani so hard. The idea that we're supposed to buy them as sisters is laughable.
I heard on a review of the 2022 Pinocchio remake that Disney always did it on purpose just to get more attention.
At 9:49 that Cinderella movie was Mt favorite Im Hispanic with family that is biracial when I saw that movie on tv in the 90s with my older cousin who was 16 at the time she cried she said it feels good to have an inclusive cast without stereotypes the casting of the king and queen reminded her of her parents… this video is so well thought out and explained..you said everything that was on my mind that I couldn’t express in any other way thank you
Oh shit got real at 13:30 💯 CLOCKED
The parallel showed was wilddd
Sydney is actually Hawaiian, she’s just lightskinned. As a light skinned Islander myself yeah sure we exist but that doesn’t excuse using a lightskin to replace a dark skin 😭😭
Skin shade only matters when darker characters are becoming light. If lighter characters become darker, there’s no problem.
Hypocrisy at it’s finest.
@@ericparker3933 now I understand where you’re coming from but this isn’t perfect awesome land and darker skinned people are still viewed as lower beings, do your research on white washing and colourism blud
13:06 "some of you are acting like people of color are a different species" THANK YOU
Very very kind person.
Appreciate your nuanced commentary.
Not a single lie was said in this video.
His Anti white rhetoric is older than Creepy Joe. He sounds like every other leftist loser crying victim.
Thank you for calling out Brett Cooper 😂 on something’s I can agree with her BUT recently she’s been spewing ignorance and I’m like I can’t take it anymore
For. Real.
I used to watch her a lot bc I wanted to have an open mind (a more opened mind than I have already) and she was one of the very few channels with an opinion that I couldn’t find in my heart to slightly agree with. Her face, voice, attitude, everything about her reminds me of a pick me girl which makes her harder to watch. I had to hit the “don’t recommend channel” button twice for her bc yuck. She’s just talking for a check 🤢
right
"None of these castings would be a big deal if equality was a thing." I would add equity to that as well, but you nailed it. Great video.
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All of these castings would be a big deal if common sense was still a thing.
that photo of the actress and nani side by side is so painful to look at
Halle looks so much like ariel, her nose her eye shape, her bone structure people just look at her being black. But truthfully there isn't many people who naturally have that exaggerated look but halle does.
She's just PERFECTION!!!
Thats so true. And her skin color has no impact on the story.
If more people could realize of that, for me she's actually the one who looks more like the animated counterpant
😂😂😂 yeah right😅
@@vaneram1072 you’d make the perfect Ursula
Everytime I see I video of you, I cannot agree more with everything you say. Please keep on with the good job ❤.
Amazing videos
I just have to say that the girl who played jasmine granted I don’t think that she didn’t do good with the role in my opinion but she wasn’t even middle eastern yes she could act and sing but there’s only one middle eastern princess and that’s jasmine and jasmine is pretty tan one thing I do know is that if Tiana isn’t played by coco jones I’m gonna have a fit cause it better not be a light skinned person
Exactly. I made a response to the guy who played Alladin. The Alladin actor said that Halle shouldn’t have been picked for Ariel. I’m like dude, you wouldn’t have gotten your role if you were dark skinned like Alladin! Alladin and jasmine were very dark. They lived in Arabia for Christs sake. It’s hot and sunny out there.
@@J_WheelerDoll30he is out of his mind
This video is all facts 👏🏼 I just recently found your channel through my recommended and I couldn’t be happier! Thank you so much for putting this out there.
One more thing I would like to add:
The only way that “colourblind casting” can work is with characters whose ethnicity are not a major part of their story. The Little Mermaid is a perfect example of this. This does not work with Nani’s casting because a) her ethnicity IS important to the story and b) as you mentioned, colourism and ambiguity is rampant in Hollywood, especially for WoC. Dark skinned folks deserve to see themselves on screen, and casting needs to be done with that in mind, even if it is meant to be colourblind.
Again, thank you for this video!
One of the best videos on UA-cam!! This needs more views, it was so well said 👏
the sisters and even David's race are important to the story
Media is dangerous. Poor Halle being harrassed everywhere. 😢❤
You have the ability to put into words EXACTLY the things that I believe but can't fully articulate. Thank you for these videos! It makes my blood boil when people (mostly wh¡te/wh¡te passing people, like me (I'm a "wh¡te" latin@)) act as if r4c¡sm against white people is as big a problem as the same against dark sk¡nned people. IT IS NOT! PLEASE STOP AND USE YOUR BRAINS A LITTLE!!
Again, thank you, great video and very necessary!!
(Sorry for the cens0ring, but my comment whas INVISIBLE until I cens0red those words :c)
It’s very rare to find honest people like this channel
It's so stupid that their calling it backwashing now just because people of color are stepping into roles where race doesn't really matter
This is the first time I’ve seen the cast for Lilo and stitch. I have to say it’s ridiculous. I’m a dark skinned American woman and I have to say, representation means a lot. Growing up, I’ve always seen white characters only. In commercials, my dolls, movies, and music videos. It’s not a good feeling when you conform to what people tell you is acceptable. You can hurt yourself and resent one’s self when you try to be something that is against your nature. Halle played a fictional character that happened to be presented a red headed white skinned female. Halle didn’t have to conform or be cast as anything other. Nani on the other hand, is a dark skinned Polynesian young adult. It matters because that is representation on the culture there in Hawaii. I wish people would stop being so stupid and selfish when representation needs to be for EVERYONE. It does matter!
That’s a BS excuse to hide your hypocrisy. You’ve got no problem with Ariel race swapping because it fits your agenda. She’s not real! She’s a mermaid. Well, I hate to break it to you but Nani isn’t real either. She lives on a version of the Hawaiian islands inhabited by aliens. She is a fictional character, just like Ariel.
The Little Mermaid character was created by Hans Christian Anderson. She was most likely from Denmark in the late 1700s or early 1800’s. She had red hair and pale skin. That makes sense, if we’re staying true to geographical skin tones. In no way would she have been black. Disney only chose a black character to fit an agenda, not because Halle was the most qualified.
How the hell can you claim that black people aren’t represented in media? Turn on any commercial, it’s a light skinned black family selling a product. Black people are represented in every facet of media. “We need more representation” doesn’t fly anymore.
Oh, by the way. I’m black. I just don’t need you to feel sorry for me because of my skin color. I also don’t believe that it has caused any hardships for me because It’s 2023 and I live in the US. Stop pretending like you’re living through the civil rights movement. It’s tired and you need to stop feeling like every character has to have the same skin shade as you.
Good work sir. You went off at the 13:05 mark and I agree completely.
This is a long one:
While I disagree with Nani's casting (no shade to biracial actors, as a multiracial person myself; I'd like more rep for us!), the argument that Halle playing Ariel is fine because Ariel was a fictional race holds no water, as well as being hypocritical; the OG Ariel is obviously white in a European setting, and her remake version is black in a Caribbean setting, which to my understanding was due to Sebastian's accent as well as wanting more diversity. Yet they didn't involve Gabriella, Ariel's deaf friend from the TV show. And we all know that if the OG Ariel was a woman of color, none of us would be happy with her being played by a white actress with the excuse of "she's a fictional race, anyway."
Honestly, I'd have rathered we got an original "Little Mermaid" story set in the Caribbean: new story, new music, and all new characters unrelated to the OG Disney film. Though I imagine Disney didn't wanna put forth the effort to market a new project, especially when many would mistake it for an adaptation of the 1989 film. I really wish that POC got more original stories or that we adapted lesser-known POC stories rather than companies racebending white stories and letting the actors take the heat for it.
White and light skin people play black characters all the time. Not only that but Hollywood also greatly refuse to put a black man and a black woman together without any sort of shade, toxicity and struggle love yet they're always ready to do a high quality film about a white man and a black man's gay relationship or a white woman and a black woman's love.
We have begged over the years without success.
So they won't put black men and women in good love,
They won't make new og stories for blacks,
They always cast light skin as black characters,
Yet black people around the world pay their hard earned money to go sit down and watch white people and light skinned people movie everytime.. adding their money to Hollywood's wealth. Halle is not even dark skin. She is super light skin. It's a whole rat race.
Imagine being black and watching whites complain.
@@reallyreal7630 I like to think that nowadays you see more opportunities being made for dark-skinned actors, though a lot of the time it may be for a show particularly angled towards a black audience. It's interesting, since this (similar to color preference for white films) also predetermines what roles you'll get based on your features.
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Such videos are so important…glad this is now immortalized 👏🏿
Well I don't know but look at Lilo & Stitch
Yh which makes me question why they didn't do the same thing with nani
@@idaf3028 "You all are so annoying these days. Bro, she's Hawaiian. Siena was born in Kauai, Hawaii to parents Karen and Kenneth Agudong. She states that she is of Caucasian, Filipino, and Polynesian descent. She has an older sister, Sydney, who inspired her to act. Next time when you trying to make up stuff, get your facts right."
I know this is a bit off topic and I'm don't really care if a black actress plays little mermaid and yes I agree when they do a live action of lilo and stitch I think the actor should definitely have native roots to where it is set
But I wanted people's opinion on having different coloured actress playing historical figures like when Jodie Turner Smith played anne boleyn I did kinda think it looked a bit weird. It would kinda be like having some black royalty/famous person being played by a white person just wondering people's opinions (feel free to disagree)
I just don't like what they did with her hair, seashell bra and the victory dress
Halle has had locs since an infant. They even said putting a wig on her head would’ve looked atrocious. And her hair is beautiful and they didn’t want to change her natural so they incorporated some lose extensions to give that flowing look under water.
@@J_WheelerDoll30true but imo it kinda messes up the hair flip scene
@@lolilikefrogs8509her hair, still ‘flipped’ did it not? Where you may not have seen that beauty because you are not used to it, I did. It does not mean the scene was ‘messed up’.
@@mutelarsorhougbe4606 it looked so stiff and sad tho 💀
I really love this. I was blown away by the little mermaid, and honestly? Now it's Ariel, and then the cartoon version of her, because she was so ARIEL.
But still we don't know about the movie that much
Lilo & Stitch look good
As a black man, I personally disagree with some of the things you said.
You claim Ariel's race doesn't matter since mermaids are fictional creatures, and race is never mentioned. By that logic, then Avatar the Last Airbender could also be race swapped since it takes place fictional planet with cultural influences from East Asian and Native American cultures, and race is never mentioned. Yes the original characters are portrayed as looking asian or Inuit, but it doesn't influence the plot ever. The little mermaid also probably has white cultural elements, that we don't notice since as you said, it's considered default. There are rumors Hercules might also be race swapped, in that case that is not justified since the movie is clearly about Greek culture and mythology, and would be just as bad as white washing a black character. Hollywood also strangely has a history of casting people of WASP or Northern European descent like English, Germans, Scandinavians or lightskin nordic looking mediterraneans to play medditeranians like Greeks or Romans and they historically depicted actual mediterranean whites like Italians with darker skin, less Eurocentric (Anglocentric) features and as criminals. Hercules should be played by a mediterranean actor. And if race doesn't matter to Ariel like for other poc, then why does it make good representation if her race doesn't matter?
You also said, if it was all equal, then neither Ariel or Nani's race or color would matter, I disagree. Although there are some people that use logic and science about Mermaid's skin color and the source material as well as actually being racist, I think most of the hate is as you said because people aren't used to seeing a traditionally white character as black, but this applies to any character's appearance regardless of race. For example, when the first trailer for Sonic dropped, and people saw his design, everyone similarly hated his design change forcing Sony to change it. Sonic doesn't even have a race, and his appearance defiantly doesn't matter as long as he's a hedgehog. Chris Pratt voicing Mario and Garfield also received some hate. People just hate when characters they know have their appearance or voice changed. And Star Wars fans are known for complaining every time a character or alien species doesn't look enough like their animated counterpart in live action, ex: The Grand Inquisitor, Cad Bane, Ashoka, the Pykes. Even in a perfect world without racism, changing appearances will always anger people. For Ariel, they're not using the source for their idea of what she should look like, it's nostalgia. If Ariel was made blond, there would be just as much hate, if not more since they're removing representation from gingers while keeping her white. It's also not just white people hating Ariel, I see lots of Black Men like Tristan Tate making videos against this as well, usually it's black women that support this decision more.
As for other instances not getting as much hate, smaller characters, lesser known characters or if they look like the original get less controversy, regardless of who's being swapped. Johnny Depp as Tonto, Robert Downy Jr as Kirk, and Jake Gyllenhaal as the Prince received just as much, if not more controversy than Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury, Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie, and Jamie Fox as Electro. The last 3 were all originally white but made black, but received less controversy than Halle Bailey as Ariel for those reasons. While the first 3 defiantly did receive controversy, but not as much as they would if they were bigger or looked different, like Avatar the Last Airbender.
I'd also like to point out how Ariel might be representing redheads. I've heard others debunk this by claiming redheads aren't as oppressed as poc and it isn't as important for representation. Ordinarily I would agree with them, but if you look at the characters that get race swapped, it seems to be a pattern to swap redheads with black people despite being a small percent of the white population. Redheads defiantly also are bullied and discriminated against by other white people, so it seems strange to pick them to race swap. As much white washing and colorism there is in Hollywood, there also seems to be a clear hate and erasure of redheads as well.
I also, as a black man disagree with your ending statement that colorblind casting is good for equality, and how you compared it to integration. Integration was about everyone living together. Colorblind casting just seems like a desperate attempt to forcefully fix representation by removing white roles, instead of creating new characters as you mentioned was better. Race swapping feels offensive, like we can't have our own characters and need to be given the scraps. These roles were made for white people, not us, we don't want them. I want to end all race swapping, white washing, and any unnessary changes to characters. If people can be mad about Sonic and Mario for being changed, then they can be mad about Ariel. If people really don't wanna see poc represented, then why do movies like Black Panther, Into the Spiderverse or Encanto do successful. People blamed racism of the Little Mermaid's failure, when across the Spiderverse, which also has a black lead, and several supporting black characters is considered one of the greatest movies that same year. It's simply a better movie with an original black character, and not recycled woke garbage.
I understand where you're coming from, but I get the feeling a lot of your reasoning comes from personal resentment, disregarding how this revolutionary casting has PROVEN to have had a positive impact on so many people, particularly black/brown children who feel like they can exist in spaces they seemed to be restricted from.
Ariel is a fictional CREATURE. She is not human and there is no singular cultural influence that dominates her or her underwater world (mind you there's a Jamaican crab & calypso music in Disney's version). As far as I know, the Avatar the Last Airbender characters are still PEOPLE with supernatural abilities in a fictional world that DOES have a prominent cultural influence (one that is rarely depicted in mainstream media). To "race swap" Avatar would be depriving an underrepresented group of people a piece of media that's meant to celebrate them. And even so, The Last Airbender still WAS race-swapped in the 2010 film, where white people took on the roles... *most* of that film's backlash came from the poor creative choices as a whole, rather than the whitewashing being the main subject.
Sonic's ugly uncanny valley design should not be compared to Ariel being portrayed by a POC... not at all the same thing. The problem with Sonic was not that his design was different... he was still recognizable... he just was a hideous mix between realism & cartoon. I'm not understanding how some people are having such a difficult time seeing Halle as Ariel, especially when watching the movie. They have similar features --You really don't have to stretch your imagination to see her as Ariel. Having a different shade of skin is not a radical difference & isn't an extreme change at all to me. I see Ariel when watching her, as do millions of others, so why are there so many people who just can't look past her skin color? She's not a different species. It's just ridiculous to me... it's so minor, yet simultaneously has such a major impact to many. What harm is it doing? I can certainly tell you what harm the whitewashed, euro-centric Jasmine did in Aladdin 2019, which is a case ignored by the vocal haters of Halle's Ariel. (Mind you, none of the live-action princesses look like their animated counterparts...and feature-wise Halle ironically is the most accurate of them all).
And representation for gingers? First of all, Halle's Ariel is better representation for gingers than the animated Ariel, who had supernatural firetruck red hair... Halle's Ariel is actually GINGER. Is it only ginger representation if she's white? It's the hair color that matters. Even if a white girl was cast, I guarantee you she wouldn't have been natural ginger actress. This "ginger representation" argument is especially weak -- they've always been prominent in media, have never been excluded or oppressed so honestly idgaf. Whatever hypothetical "bullying" there is, it's nothing in comparison, and certainly doesn't have any systemic presence.
The whole idea that "POC should be restricted to roles that reflect their own culture instead of race-swapping european stories" is just a pseudo-intellectual way of saying, "Stay in your lane, marginalized person! Get out of my white media!" There's absolutely room for both & it's necessary that there is. There should be more media that embraces specific cultures, but saying that POC should only be restricted to films that reflect their ancestry is insane. They belong in familiar, widely known stories, as well... especially in this landscape of reboots/remakes where familiar characters have the most prominence. Ariel is not "white scraps" -- that perspective is such an inherently cynical one. Ariel is a major, iconic, beloved character (whose whiteness has nothing to do with anything) & it's such a special honor for ANYONE to step into that role... the fact that a black woman happened to be the best fit to do so is a moving, powerful statement that Ariel's qualities transcend her skin color. And then you add the historical context of black women in media & it just is a truly beautiful thing that some people are hellbent on making sour. And though it may not resonate with you, I've SEEN this casting decision tremendously impact so many others. Anyone can be Ariel. Anyone can take up space where they've been told they couldn't.
I won't speak to the quality of the actual film or its lack of spectacle, which I think is what mostly hindered the box office performance (it wasn't a financial failure btw, just didn't reach expectations). Also, the rise of braindead "anti-woke" internet mobs played a factor. A film isn't woke just because you see a black person where you didn't expect to. Spiderverse IS a better movie, which is why strong word-of-mouth made it a box office success, but I fear we're not getting anywhere when you use terms like "woke garbage".
@@TommyRoss Race swapping might have a small positive influence, but it isn't a solution I like. It feels more desperate and lazy attempt of solving the problem. Believe me, have you seen how many black men on UA-cam have hated on the Little Mermaid remake? Are they somehow racist?
I never said I supported White Washing Avatar, I was mentioning that the actual groups in Avatar aren't real ethnic groups, and could be argued that their skin color or race doesn't matter. Race wasn't the main complaint since the movie sucked regardless, meaning it wasn't a win for whites, and it's hard to accuse M Night Shyamalan, an Indian, of being racist in favor of whites. Maybe that was a bad example though. What about a character like Lucas from Stranger Things, his race is almost never mentioned or made important in the show. If race wasn't an issue in this world, you would argue he could be made white without any changes to the story. Also Naomi Scott looks alot like Jasmin, and her appearance is very common in the middle east. There are full Arabs and Persians with way lighter skin and "Eurocentric" features than her. If anything, the original is racist for thinking all middle easterners have skin that dark. But they could have done a better by casting a Middle Eastern woman. Speaking of Persians, I don't understand why Jake Gyllenhaal can't play the Prince, he's an Ashkenazi Jew, Jews are from the middle east. He isn't even lighter skin, in the games, the prince ORIGINALLY is depicted with white skin and blue eyes, like some Persians have, just like Ashkenazi Jews can have darkskin and middle eastern features.
The reason i'm comparing Sonic to Ariel, is because they both caused the internet to get mad over changes to a character. Halle also does look recognizable to Ariel, but not similar enough, like Sonic, you proved my point, recognizable but too different. Have you also seen how much people are complaining about Chris Pratt's Garfield voice, and how much the Star Wars fandom complains about characters not looking enough like their animated counter parts. Generally, facial features aside from skin color, hair and eye color aren't always as important, but they do matter. Minor character changes also aren't as much of a problem. Also here's a better question, why does Halle receive more backlash than the other race swaps I mentioned like in the MCU?
I was trying to say I would agree with you about how redheads don't face systemic issues the same. But that doesn't change the fact that hollywood specifically chooses redhead characters like April O'Neal, Annie, Starfire, Iris West, MJ, and of course Ariel to make black?
I wasn't trying to make an analogy with staying in our own lane, you did that. You were against the idea of white washing because of it's history and racism, but support race swapping white characters, because it gives representation. You're saying whites should stay in their lane. This is not apologist to integration in which everyone changes lanes. I personally don't agree with doing something wronged on us, to others. If white washing is wrong, so is black washing, thats equality. You want equity, but I think this conveys the wrong ideas. You're right with the fact it won't replace white representation, but it does replace characters we know. I have never felt unrepresented as a black man. For being minorities, we get a-lot of representation compared to others. It isn't perfect, but this is way too desperate in our case.
I don't care if you support woke culture for representation, or are against the way it changes things. Everyone can all agree, MODERN DISNEY SUCKS! They're not on anyone's side, they don't care about representation, they did it for money. They make anti-woke people against race swapping mad by casting a black woman as Ariel, or Tinker Bell, but turn right around and anger the otherside by casting a lighter skin woman as Nani when it's convenient. They remove representation if people with Dwarfism in a race swapped movie about empowering women. They care more about profiting from woke culture than making good movies, ruining Marvel, Pixar, Star Wars, etc. They make bad movies like Strange World, and Wish when their writers go on strike, and terrible remakes no one asked for, and divide everyone. If Disney quit making remakes, this divide wouldn't exist. It doesn't matter if they're giving representation black women, by changing classics and removing gingers or white washing Hawaiians in the next project, everyone looses as long as Disney profits.
Ariel was taken from the redheads as a redhead they could look up too, even though she was an actual redheaded redhead. Nobody has that shade of red in real life. Lol stop regurgitating ignorant rhetorics.
I love your videos!! I've seen only a few but you got a new sub. The way you explain things are so clear, if anyone watches this video and disagrees... then they are really lost.
The moment I saw Halle in the trailer I got chills.. how can anyone not love this casting?? I can't believe people say a POC being able to play ARIEL is giving leftovers? Do they know who Ariel is?
another absolutely stunning and accurate video
I'm corious now, you said that the actress is not hawaiian and was just born in hawai, so she can't be considered native. Now, I have been told my entire life that a black person, a turkish or an arab or whatever born in England or Germany or France is totally 100% engilsh or german or french, and if you disagree with that you are just racist. So why is it okay to say that a white girl who was born in hawai is not a native, but it is racist to say that the french national football team has (almost) no french people in it?
There's a difference between citizenship/nationality vs race/ancestry. For example, if you're born in America, you're American, but that doesn't mean you're Native American. Someone born in Germany is German in their nationality, but that doesn't mean they're also German in their ancestry.
What you are talking about is citizenship, not ancestry or descentry. POC (that aren't part white) in European countries are European citizens but do not have white european ancestors. African-Americans are Americans by citizenship, but have black african ancestors. Asian-americans are Americans by citizenship but have asian ancestors. White south Africans have south African citizenship but have white European ancestors. Aboriginal people in Australia have Australian citizenship and are indigenous to Australia. Native Americans in the USA have american citizenship and are indigenous to the USA. First Nation people in Canada have Canadian citizenship and are indigenous to Canada. Native hawaiians in Hawaii are american citizens and indigenous to Hawaii. White Americans are American citizens but have white European ancestors - yet they love to claim that they are the "real true americans" and see themselves as "americans" instead of white or european-americans.
Basically, nani, lilo, and david are Native Hawaiians who have indigenous ancestors that live in Hawaii while Mertle and Cobra Bubbles live in Hawaii but are not indigenous or Native Hawaiians because they have ancestors that descended from other countries.
Examples:
*Ryan Higa and his friend Sean are from Hawaii but are 100% of Japanese descent. No one looks at them and thinks they are Hawaiian.
*Barack Obama is from Hawaii but is half-white and half-black. No one sees him as Hawaiian.
*Two of the characters from Rocket Power are half-Hawaiian since their dad is white but their mom is native-hawaiian. Their dad has a native hawaiian coworker.
*Hailey and her brothers from Hailey's On It are half-native-hawaiian and half-white since their mom is white and their dad is native hawaiian.
*Moana is a pacific islander and is indigenous to the land she and her tribe live on.
*The Rock (Dwayne Johnson) is part-samoan thru his mom. His samoan side makes his part-pacific-islander but not part-native-hawaiian.
*Hawaii Five-O (not the all-white version (which has zero native hawaiians); the version with Daniel Dae kim) takes place in Hawaii but all of the cops and forensic scientists are not indigenous or native hawaiian while the two recurring native hawaiian characters work various businesses. Majority of the characters in that show are not native hawaiians.
@@TommyRosstell them Tommy! This person can't apply distinction.
@@thosereviews1583very astute answer given here
To me she pretty much looks like Nani the only difference is her skin tone
At first I thought Hailey was a bit too different to be Ariel. Then I figured later that she makes for an awsome Disney princess.
Is she perfect as Ariel? Still not sure enough.
However I guess Nani's casting is weird... Makes me wonder what they saw was "Nani" enough in the actress.
Maybe they intentionally want her to look different?
Something for sure we can't tell until the movie comes out.
I do think Halle Bailey has the making of a Disney princess. Maybe not Ariel but her own original character would be great. I do think they change Ariel's character a bit including personality wise in the live action. A lot of her motivation and reasoning changed which could had been it's own thing.
About Nani casting. To be honest the whole she isn't indigenous Native Hawaiian is kind of a lie because people are focus on her mom being white. Yes, she is multi-racial but she has Indigenous native Hawaiian(Polynesian) blood in her family from her dad side. She is 25% indigenous native Hawaiian. Also there are rarely any full blooded native Hawaiians even in Hawaii because there are like 5000 full blooded native Hawaiian in existence and majority are mixed race. She also looks like she could be related to the child actress that plays Lilo and some of her other photos does make her darker looking. Even her children photos she was darker than the girl casted as Lilo. Even the girl who voiced Moana who is Native Hawaiian is also mixed race. So far we haven't seen her in costume or her acting so who know what it will end up as.
Girl please Halle was perfect. The writing was not.Nani is way darker
I mean, you are pretty right about Everything (especially other cultures being portrayed by wrong people who don't even fit the description) except for the fact that they can create original characters for other cultures. That would be great. I would prefer to see classic ariel with red hair and white skin and I am not even white.
At the same time, these stories are stupid...like who cares? People of other cultures know that they were written wrong in the first place.
So we're all gonna let a person's race get in the way again.
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I'm not surprised people are acting like this. A couple of months ago, I did an image where I showed what I considered a good choice for Odette from The Swan Princess in a live-action remake (Because they are actually trying to get a live-action made and the people who made the original movie even did a concept trailer to show studios that is available on their channel) and some people made a big fuss over it because the girl I picked was a black woman (Pepi Sonuga). First of all, I was not saying she was a number one choice but a good possible choice and that she looked like a black version of the character. And I did that because I was inspired by Halle Bailey's version of Ariel so I'm not just going for picking someone who looks exactly like the character or is just white like the character but picking who is best for the role. But I won't go into too much detail. Either way, it's ridiculous how people get all up in arms when you try to put a minority into an iconic role that was previously held by a white person but will think others are overreacting when you cast someone who isn't racially correct in a role meant for a person of color. It's literally not the same. You said everything right and needed to be said.
I have to disagree with the Arial movie, it was terrible, The only good actor in there was Ursula played by Melissa McCarthy. I actually went back and listened to the original song, i would say the best voice is from sissel kyrkjebø.
Oh you ate this up and I hope more white peoples see this because the hate Halle has gotten because of her race is horrible and those thumbnails are just plain racist. This one people will be on the wrong side of history and it will be online forever for us to pull up and remind them of how ignorant they have been.
The actress chosen to play live-action nani is colorism AND racism because Nani has dark skin and is of native Hawaiian descent while that actress is pale and is half-white and half-filipina who just happened to be born in Hawaii. Being a non-indigenous person born in the state of Hawaii is not the same as being an indigenous Hawaiian. The difficulties Nani faces outside of her family is because of the discrimination against native Hawaiians. People defending that actress just because she is born in Hawaii (and is part-white and white-passing) even though she lied about being indigenous are the same people who think Mertle (the mean white girl that bullies Lilo) is Hawaiian just because she lives in Hawaii. (That casting decision reminds me of the time Nickelodeon casted an actor of Thai descent to play a Mexican character in one of their power rangers shows and when Disney casted a filipina actress to play lizzie mcguire's mexican best friend and when disney casted a white man to play andi mack's dad (when both andi and her mom are both half-chinese and half-white).) [Not only does that actress not look indigenous, but she's white-passing as well. If Disney is so desperate to portray Nani as multiracial, at least pick a multiracial actress that is actually part-native-Hawaiian and looks native hawaiian. If they can fix the casting for David, they can do the same for Nani. There are plenty of actual native hawaiian actresses (with dark skin) that would love the chance to play nani.] It seems like they gave up after finding the perfect kid to play lilo. Makes no sense that they can find native Hawaiians to play lilo and david (and probably the numerous amounts of background people) but couldn't find one that can play nani. [The voice cast of Moana was full of multi-racial people but at least the casting director of that movie made sure that they were at least part-pacific-islander. Casting director for live-action lilo and stitch didn't even bother to do research.] Similar thing can be said about the actress of live-action jasmine. Jasmine is 100% swana and brown, yet the actress is half-white and half-south-asian. [There is already a huge issue with conflating swana people and south asian people as the same when they aren't and a huge issue with casting part-white poc as non-white poc. I know swana people are listed as white in the us census, but they aren't seen as white. Plus, i am pretty sure naomi scott's white side is not even swana.]
[Update: Apparently, the actress is 1/4-native-hawaiian. My point still stands though, since she still benefits from colorism, part-white privlege, and white-passing privilege. She looks more like an older mertle than nani.]
Apparently, there are also guys mad that the actress doesn't have the same body type as Nani. I don't know how to react to that since there is an issue with casting thinner gals as larger gals, but Nani isn't fat or obese and seems like those guys are just mad that they can't "thrist" over the actress's body.
Exactly. You hit every point that anyone with any level of critical thinking skill can obviously see. It’s sad we have to explain this. Yes it’s the way racism was designed. But it’s so tiring.
No it’s just excuses because y’all hate white people
One fact no one seems to acknowledge is this:
There are less than 5,000 full blooded Hawaiians left in the world The people whining either ignore this fact or didn't bother to put forth the effort to learn this fact. The main reason for this is Hawaii became a melting pot. When you meet someone from Hawaii who claims to be Hawaiian is likely to be an Asian/European/Hawaiian mix.
My entire life I've had to deal with ignorant people who thought I was adopted because my mom looked Caucasian due to anemia. Especially in the summer when I'd get very dark. Hawaiian isn't a colour, it's the Spirit of Aloha that makes you a Hawaiian. To see past colour and accept people who may be many other nationalities along with being Hawaiian.
BTW, my mother was also named Nani, short for Kanani which means The Beautiful One. And she was, even without being dark skinned
Talk about how they racism against black woman like why halle get called names and persecuted for her features on her eyes but people like the daughter of Gwinnett Paltrow or thw girl from mean girls the blind cute dumb and the girl from snow white never get critique but she does. And why they always deshumnize black woman its so embarrassing
7:39 - Ghost In The Shell character has a 'brain' of a Japanese girl installed in a humanoid robot that's designed to look racially ambiguous. Original anime movies depict her as a blue eyed robot with European features and that's what the Johansson version is based on.
Hahahahahahaha. the world doesn't turn, it flips over
I do agree that this is a big issue, especially since Nani and Lilo's race is important to a good amount of the story. Examples including the "fakey luau" and the deleted tourist scene, as well as it potentially being part of why Nani can't keep a job. It's very important for them to learn the difference between "native Hawaiian" and "born in Hawaii". Am I going to lose sleep over it? Probably not, but I am still a little mad about it mostly because Lilo & Stitch is my favorite movie and I want the live action to at least do it some justice.
A MERMAID IS A MERMAID NANI HAD CULTURE NOT THE MERMAID
Ariel was white since the book with blue eyes,was created white always white..You can't raceswap her just because of a voice
@@nataliaberrios3155Ariel’s race was never ever important if they can change her haircolor and storyline why does it matter if one just wants to change her race they were basing her in carribean anyway
Nani has a culture but is not real human just like with Ariel both are animated characters not historical figures
Yeah blackwashing good, people portraying the race of the character bad.
To call you guys stupid would be a compliment.
you clearly did not watch the video or are just simply too dense to understand. your lack of knowledge on this topic is way too evident for you to be confidently commenting misguided takes like this.
I’m with you & I agree with you! And I think representation is VERY important and I have nothing against race changing (I wish we lived in a world where colorblind casting was more of a thing!) so long as the race of a character isn’t important to their Story (and you can also adapt the story you’re adapting) But bc of that I also think that Rachel Zegler shouldn’t have been cast as Snow White. As her having skin as white as snow is actually part of the story. Leaving talent aside bc that isn‘t Part of the discorse.
2:32 .... if it is a matter of cultural authenticity ... why is the issue not with it being an american actress? Not like european folks don't know english 😅
regarding race, halle looks like ariel to me
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@@liampatrick3110it's the truth racist
I dont think halle looks like ariel i just think she looks like a mermaid tbh
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As a black viewer of yours who is an artist, I really appreciate this and the colorblind casting video. Very well spoken. We done.
"You all are so annoying these days. Bro, she's Hawaiian. Siena was born in Kauai, Hawaii to parents Karen and Kenneth Agudong. She states that she is of Caucasian, Filipino, and Polynesian descent. She has an older sister, Sydney, who inspired her to act. Next time when you trying to make up stuff, get your facts right."
While I agree that colorism has been a problem in Hollywood. I think we should be a bit more educated about Jasmine and Jesus.
They’re both middle eastern. And the Aladdin movie supported the stereotype of how all middle eastern people are brown with black hair.
When really, they are very diverse in appearance. And are actually another group of Caucasian people. That’s right, Jasmine is technically white. There’s nothing wrong with her casting in live action.
And the same can be applied to Jesus. Sure he may have had a slight tan, but not straight up brown. Not like it matters anyway. He could have looked white with brown hair, or brown with black hair. It’s a very diverse place.
Jews are also a middle eastern people, in which Jesus, you mentioned is part of, but they are always shown with lightskin. Darkskin usually Sephardic and Mizrahi jews don't ever get shown in Hollywood, which is founded by Jews, who are also of middle eastern ancestry, but Ashkenazim are usually lightskin due to european ancestry similar to other groups mentioned. But there are plenty of lightskin Sephardic and Mizrahim that often do get represented like Dan Hedaya. However unlike other ethnicities colorism where lightskin is seen as a uncommon or rare exception to represent, Jewish colorism is way worse since being lightskin is seen as the default for Jews for those in and outside the community, and being darkskin isn't even known to many outsiders. Ashkenazi (lightskins) are a minority in Israel, but control more higher positions of power than darker skin Jews similar to other ethnicities. Even Ashkenazim with darker skin like Sarah Silverman or Sacha Baron Cohen might experience colorism from other Jews.
My God you people are such hypocrites. You know that? You can pretend to be all accepting and understanding of different cultures and wanting to make diversity stronger. But that is total bull.
And this isn’t about being more accepting or diverse or cultured. This is about one thing and one thing only. And you can hate me and think I’m a bad person all you want but I’m telling the God’s honest truth here. Here it is.
Since the dawn of time, for some reason we can’t build up someone without tearing down somebody else. We can’t praise one group without belittling another. And nothing has changed. Nothing. We’re not any wiser than our ancestors were, we just pretend to be and it’s sick.
Sorry, but this video made a lot of mistakes! Nani's actress is actually Hawaiian and the Hawaiians I saw didn't mind her skin color, because she is still Hawaiian. Ariel is White and European and Halle is not, she has nothing to do with the Character, but you criticize an actress who literally has the same origin as Nani while defending an actress who does not have the same origin as Ariel? What's the logic?
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Absolutely right. People are so ignorant about these topics. Either ignorant or plainly r4cist.
I can agree with most of your points but given that there is already a black live action princess in Ariel, the argument of Tiana being the only black princess doesn't hold for why Jenna Ortega playing Tiana is different from Halle playing Ariel. Tiana's race isn't essential to the story either. Personally I don't agree with any race swap casting be it Ariel's or Nani's or Tiana's.
Edit: I apologize. Tiana's race was essential. I misremembered as it has been a long time since I watched the movie.
Tiana's race is absolutely tied to the story, you see it in her interactions with other characters and her background. Just because you don't see that does not mean it isn't there. Ariel being white legitimately does not matter, but Nani being native Hawaiian and Tiana being black does.
Tiana's race is absolutely essential to the story & character, not only because she is a woman from New Orleans who struggles to fulfill her dreams due to her "background", but the character was specifically created to add diversity into the Disney Princess lineup...she's a monumental, important, breakthrough figure for the black community.
Just because we have had a black Ariel doesn't mean Tiana should be taken away from the black community, as they still have very few opportunities to shine, especially considering all the white-led media that already exists for your consumption. It's not that hard to grasp.
@@TommyRoss I apologize. I misremembered as it has been a long time since I watched it. I understand. I didn't say Tiana should be taken away from the black community. I was speaking of the specific point of her being the only one. Yes, but in regards to Ariel, I feel they should give black people original roles instead of race swapping. And perhaps our experiences with media is different.
If I may ask, what do you think of Bridgerton's race swap?
@@treethief4987 Yes, I apologize. I misremembered as it has been a long time since I watched the movie. My main point in regards to Ariel is why not give POC characters their own original lead roles instead of race-swapping and giving them second hand roles? I'm actually curious to know your thoughts on Bridgerton's race-swapping since Bridgerton's race-swap is technically historically and culturally inaccurate.
Jenna Ortega isn’t actually playing Tiana that was a April fools joke I don’t know why people fell for that
They race swapped nick fury in marvel comics why didnt they say anything
Because at the time he wasn’t really a well known/iconic character.
At first I thought it was hypocrisy to only care if a iconic charecter is race swapped, but not others.
Until I realized that iconic characters have a well established look. Because they are so well known. While non iconic characters are more free to work with apparently.
Disney just trolling you guys at this stage🤣 it’s awful to see but it’s your own fault to expect anything good from Disney at this stage.
The amount of times ive seen people comment that the animated version is taken from the danish og adaptation from hans christian anderson aggravates me so much that is a lazy excuse to attempt to justify why ariel should be white. The princess and the frog is an African american adaptation of the origimal which is russian, (so we could use that logic), but no. Adaptations are variations. And surely if these people were smart, if ariel was danish, her father wouldnt be named after a greek god. Her race and story isnt a contributor to white culture, but lilo and stitch is and people were saying how it was wrong for us to be mad that lilo and nani are being whitewashed. The pure ignorance. Whitewashing and raceswapping are not entirely the same.
You straight up pretend like people who were upset with Ariel are not upset about Nani
People who loved Lilo and Stich want it to be perfect, meaning like the original, meaning race is the same.
Same for the little mermaid.
Continue with your copium to cope with your cognitive dissonance
Where's the cognitive dissonance? And don't try to speak for the people who loved lilo and stitch because the people who were vocally negative about ariel being portrayed by a black women didn't project this hostile objections towards sydney playing nani
@@appleheadslatte same with the people who said race didnt matter. people were just laughing you hypocrites when you flip the script so fast when you saw the actress
I'm the biggest fan of Halle as Ariel from the get go!! That being said, I don't care about one's race or ethnicity as long as they can emulate the character. You have a problem with Nani casting, yet you praised an olive skinned Latina being cast as Snow White.... The girl who was cast as Nani, Sydney Agudong was born and raised in Hawaii, which makes her legit Hawaiian. She's got warmth and charm about her, that reminds me of Nani. I loved Halle's Ariel, and I'm fine with Nani being a few shades lighter than a cartoon. And I'd be fine with Black or Asian Rapunzel for instance.
Did you even watch the video though? Because he just explained being a Hawaiian native isn't the same as being a native Hawaiian, and how Nani's ethnicity is actually part of the story, etc. It's great that you're able to put your color blind goggles on, but you're missing a lot of context that way.
The actress is not "legit Hawaiian". She's White and Filipino. She only grew up in Hawaii, she's as much " Hawaiian " as any White person who grew up in Hawaii. She's not Native/Indigenous Hawaiian, like Nani ACTUALLY is, and her being Native is actually important to the story.
Halle Bailey is the Ariel we needed. She has more magical, physical, musical and personal feature than anyone that i know.
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@@vaneram1072 Yes.
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@@vaneram1072 Yes. No matter how hard you try. Yes! 🤣
And FYI, beauty is subjective. However, people with that personally of yours - ugly. 💅🏻
No she's the mermaid you wanted because you wanna feel important through that because you have a inferiority complex. She's not Ariel and never will be and millions hate that remake that's why it's flopping.
Honestly Haliey playibg Ariel did not sit right with me after the trailer but after i saw it i know she is the perfect choice for Ariel as for Nani it is what it is because even though i hate remakes most of the time disney owns all of these stories and can change them to what they see fit.