4:44 The reason the infielder tagged him is because he was unsure if he had kept his foot on second base for the force out. (The throw from the pitcher was off target.) Rather than risk the play being reviewed and the out overturned, he made the decision to tag the runner.
2:21 Freeze the frame. On this play the bases were loaded. The 3rd baseman had the *option* of throwing to the catcher who would touch home plate for a force out -- or -- tagging the runner. Because the runner was in arm's reach he chose to tag him out, then throw to first base. An infielder has to make split second decisions or risk screwing up the play.
In case you haven't heard good Chatwin, the NY Mets will play the Philadelphia Phillies in a two game series @ Wembley Stadium this summer. Have yourself a good time.
If they are forced to run, if a runner is on the base behind them, actually all bases behind them, the out at next base is a force. Otherwise, if the runner has access to both bases, front or back, you gotta tag him.
There are three real ways to get a baserunner out: 1. Tag the runner off the base. This can happen in any way. see also: Hidden Ball Trick 2. Runner's have to advance on a ball that touches the ground. You can force the out if you get a runner who can't go forward and can't go backward and tag the base. E.g. any runner to 1st. 3: If the ball doesn't hit the ground and is in play, then the catch gets the hitter out and no runner can advance... meaning any runners who did have to go backwards.
Here are the elements of the “force out” think of a pressure being applied. When the ball is hit the runner must make 1st base and therefore it’s a force out. A runner can be tagged at any point for an out. If a runner stands on first upon a hit now both 2nd and first are force out and on with the subsequent bases being filled. Now, if a runner advances to second, safely beyond toward 3rd he has relieved the force of the play and now must be tagged during that play. If the fielder gets the out BEHIND a runner the force is released. It’s all about pressure being applied by subsequent runners advancing in order. If there is no hit ball in play no force is applied
Kids who play baseball throughout school and little league are drilled on the various plays and scenarios and any kid would usually know what to do to get the play in all but the most exceptional circumstances. Growing up, if we weren't watching every Phillies game on TV we were listening on the radio. The pace of baseball and being able to visualize the field through the announcers' description ... it's even fun to listen on the radio.
Whether a base runner is tagged or not all depends on whether the runner is being FORCED to run to the next base by a base runner behind him. If there is a force then no tag. If running to the next base is optional then a tag is required. So what you will notice on some plays is the fielder may cathc a ground ball near a base but thorw it to a higher base first. Example, ball is hit to first base. THe first baseman turns and throws the ball to second first rather than touching his base first. The seocnd baseman then throws it back because if they do it in that order they dont' have to make a tag on either runner. If the first basemen stepped on his own base first then threw to second base the second baseman would have a more limited time in which to make a tag. Usually a throw it is to the farthest base to which a runner is about to advance. This is because they get that person out with a simple touch of the base and not with a tag. Sometimes you'll also see a pitcher intentinoally walk a good hitter to set up a double play. Also, when a batter hits a fly ball, the runners cannot advance until the ball is caught and must be tagged if they do. But if they leave early and the ball is unexpectedly caught, they have to get back to the base before teh ball arrives or they'll be out (without a tag).
5:47 As early as little league infielders are taught to ask themselves before every pitch ... if the ball is hit to me, where am I going to throw it? You need to keep your mind in the game at all times.
The longer a player is in the league, the more of a “book” on him every team has, as far as his hitting tendencies, and where to place a defense accordingly for each player. That’s partly why as of last season, there were some limitations placed on certain defensive shifts. At any rate, the more of a book on him a player has, the easier it is for defenses to turn double plays. That said, there’s little defense can do if a player has enough base running speed.
Others mentioned the force out vs tag out rule without a great explanation. Let’s try to do better. A runner not on base can be tagged out anytime the ball is in play. A batter that hits the ball into fair territory, between the foul lines, must reach first bast before a fielder with the ball touches it. That’s called a forced out. If there is a runner on first base when the batter hits the ball into fair territory, he is forced to go to second base because the batter must reach first base. So there are forced outs available at both second and first base. This is how most double plays are made. Let’s suppose the runner was on second base and no runner is on first base. When the batter hits the ball into fair territory the runner on second base can remain on second base because he is not forced to go to third base because no runner is on first base. The only force out available is at first base for the batter. But the runner on second base can be tagged out if he tried to advance to third, or retreat back to second base. Usually, most runners step off the base they are on to get a lead, a head start, for the next base. So depending upon where the batter hits the ball, the defender decides either to attempt a tag out play or go for the forced out at first base. Another way to get a forced out is when a fielder catches the batted ball before it hits the ground. A runner on base must wait for the ball to be caught before he can advance to the next base. Since most runners are not on the base when the ball is hit, the runner must return to the base, tag up, before the runner can advance. If a player with the ball touches that base before the runner, the runner is forced out. There are many double plays made this way too. Whenever a batter or runner must go to a base, advancing or retreating, a force out can be made.
Chatwin, here’s the deal: If the player MUST RUN TO THE BASE, you need only touch the base and the runner is out. IF THE PLAYER ISN’T FORCED TO RUN TO THE NEXT BASE, he must be tagged. ALSO, tagging a runner out is allowed IN ALL INSTANCES, but only when they are “force outs” - WHEN A PLAYER MUST RUN TO THE NEXT BASE - is merely touching the base enough. Sometimes “the force is taken off.” For example, runner at first base, ball hit to first baseman at the bag. If first baseman fields the ball and steps on first base the batter is out, of course, but the runner running to second base MUST NOW BE TAGGED OUT because it’s no longer a “force out” at second base because, the batter retired, the runner running to second could actually return to first base. He no longer MUST run to second. It can get confusing, but remember the first thing. If the runner MUST run to the base, tagging is not required, touching the base is enough. If he DOESN’T HAVE TO RUN TO THE BASE, tagging is required. YET, even if tagging isn’t required, tagging is still allowed. Hope this alleviates your confusion!!!
If a player is forced to run, the fielder only needs to step on the bag, its called a force out, for example, if you have runners on 1st and 3rd base, the runner on 1st HAS to run if its a grounder, since the batter is trying to get to 1st. This is a force out, so the fielder only has to touch the base, however, in the same example, with runners on 1st and 3rd, if a batter hits a ground ball, the player coming from 3rd (who doesnt have to run since 2nd base is unoccupied), he will have to be tagged out at home if he chooses to run. When an outfielder makes a catch, all runners must go back to their base, once they get back, they can run again, which is called "tagging up", in this situation the fielder must tag the runner once he 'tags up' and decided to advance, but if he is caught BEFORE he "tags up" then its a force out and the fielder only needs to touch the base. Base stealer will always need to be tagged out.
You can get somebody out by tagging them when they're not on a base (the base is a "safe" place for them), or by getting the ball to another player on your team before the runner reaches that base. But the latter only occurs when the baserunner HAS to move there because the batter hit the ball and he has to leave the base and run to the next one (you can't have two runners on the same base). So if the bases are loaded (runners on first, second, and third) and a ball is hit by the batter, all the runners must move to the next base, so if a fielder throws the ball to any of his teammates who is standing on a base, and the ball gets there before the runner, than that runner is out. Yes, there's a great video on triple-plays which is fabulous! Oh, and if you hit a fly ball (in the air, doesn't touch the ground) and it's caught, a runner on any base can only try to run for the next base AFTER the ball is caught. It's called "tagging up" when the runner steps on the base and waits for the ball to be caught so he can try to run safely to the next base. Since he's not being "forced" by another runner, he has to be tagged by the fielder in order for the runner to be out. Even if the fielder is standing on the base and the ball is thrown to him and he catches it before the runner gets there, he must tag him before the runner reaches the base. Because the runner isn't being "forced" to run.
Force outs are when the runner can`t retreat back to the base he left because there is a man on the base behind him.Can`t have two men on one base.Another type of force out is when a man in the field catches a ball on the fly.A man on base must retreat to the base he left.All other times the man has to be tagged with the ball.
If a runner is forced to run you only have to tag the base, if he’s running with nobody behind him you have to tag him. Also a runner has to wait til a ball in the air is caught to run otherwise you can tag him or his base to get him out
Please do home run steals 🥹🤞🏽
4:44 The reason the infielder tagged him is because he was unsure if he had kept his foot on second base for the force out. (The throw from the pitcher was off target.) Rather than risk the play being reviewed and the out overturned, he made the decision to tag the runner.
2:21 Freeze the frame. On this play the bases were loaded. The 3rd baseman had the *option* of throwing to the catcher who would touch home plate for a force out -- or -- tagging the runner. Because the runner was in arm's reach he chose to tag him out, then throw to first base. An infielder has to make split second decisions or risk screwing up the play.
In case you haven't heard good Chatwin, the NY Mets will play the Philadelphia Phillies in a two game series @ Wembley Stadium this summer. Have yourself a good time.
If they are forced to run, if a runner is on the base behind them, actually all bases behind them, the out at next base is a force. Otherwise, if the runner has access to both bases, front or back, you gotta tag him.
There are three real ways to get a baserunner out:
1. Tag the runner off the base. This can happen in any way. see also: Hidden Ball Trick
2. Runner's have to advance on a ball that touches the ground. You can force the out if you get a runner who can't go forward and can't go backward and tag the base. E.g. any runner to 1st.
3: If the ball doesn't hit the ground and is in play, then the catch gets the hitter out and no runner can advance... meaning any runners who did have to go backwards.
Here are the elements of the “force out” think of a pressure being applied. When the ball is hit the runner must make 1st base and therefore it’s a force out. A runner can be tagged at any point for an out. If a runner stands on first upon a hit now both 2nd and first are force out and on with the subsequent bases being filled. Now, if a runner advances to second, safely beyond toward 3rd he has relieved the force of the play and now must be tagged during that play. If the fielder gets the out BEHIND a runner the force is released. It’s all about pressure being applied by subsequent runners advancing in order. If there is no hit ball in play no force is applied
Kids who play baseball throughout school and little league are drilled on the various plays and scenarios and any kid would usually know what to do to get the play in all but the most exceptional circumstances. Growing up, if we weren't watching every Phillies game on TV we were listening on the radio. The pace of baseball and being able to visualize the field through the announcers' description ... it's even fun to listen on the radio.
Whether a base runner is tagged or not all depends on whether the runner is being FORCED to run to the next base by a base runner behind him. If there is a force then no tag. If running to the next base is optional then a tag is required. So what you will notice on some plays is the fielder may cathc a ground ball near a base but thorw it to a higher base first. Example, ball is hit to first base. THe first baseman turns and throws the ball to second first rather than touching his base first. The seocnd baseman then throws it back because if they do it in that order they dont' have to make a tag on either runner. If the first basemen stepped on his own base first then threw to second base the second baseman would have a more limited time in which to make a tag. Usually a throw it is to the farthest base to which a runner is about to advance. This is because they get that person out with a simple touch of the base and not with a tag. Sometimes you'll also see a pitcher intentinoally walk a good hitter to set up a double play. Also, when a batter hits a fly ball, the runners cannot advance until the ball is caught and must be tagged if they do. But if they leave early and the ball is unexpectedly caught, they have to get back to the base before teh ball arrives or they'll be out (without a tag).
5:47 As early as little league infielders are taught to ask themselves before every pitch ... if the ball is hit to me, where am I going to throw it? You need to keep your mind in the game at all times.
The longer a player is in the league, the more of a “book” on him every team has, as far as his hitting tendencies, and where to place a defense accordingly for each player. That’s partly why as of last season, there were some limitations placed on certain defensive shifts. At any rate, the more of a book on him a player has, the easier it is for defenses to turn double plays. That said, there’s little defense can do if a player has enough base running speed.
If the runner has the option of returning to his previous base, you need to tag him out.
What's incredible is the ability of the cameramen to follow the plays as they are happening.
Most of these players have been playing baseball since they were 5 or 6 years old. These instincts are second nature to them.
Others mentioned the force out vs tag out rule without a great explanation. Let’s try to do better.
A runner not on base can be tagged out anytime the ball is in play.
A batter that hits the ball into fair territory, between the foul lines, must reach first bast before a fielder with the ball touches it. That’s called a forced out.
If there is a runner on first base when the batter hits the ball into fair territory, he is forced to go to second base because the batter must reach first base. So there are forced outs available at both second and first base. This is how most double plays are made.
Let’s suppose the runner was on second base and no runner is on first base. When the batter hits the ball into fair territory the runner on second base can remain on second base because he is not forced to go to third base because no runner is on first base. The only force out available is at first base for the batter. But the runner on second base can be tagged out if he tried to advance to third, or retreat back to second base. Usually, most runners step off the base they are on to get a lead, a head start, for the next base. So depending upon where the batter hits the ball, the defender decides either to attempt a tag out play or go for the forced out at first base.
Another way to get a forced out is when a fielder catches the batted ball before it hits the ground. A runner on base must wait for the ball to be caught before he can advance to the next base. Since most runners are not on the base when the ball is hit, the runner must return to the base, tag up, before the runner can advance. If a player with the ball touches that base before the runner, the runner is forced out. There are many double plays made this way too.
Whenever a batter or runner must go to a base, advancing or retreating, a force out can be made.
Chatwin, here’s the deal:
If the player MUST RUN TO THE BASE, you need only touch the base and the runner is out. IF THE PLAYER ISN’T FORCED TO RUN TO THE NEXT BASE, he must be tagged. ALSO, tagging a runner out is allowed IN ALL INSTANCES, but only when they are “force outs” - WHEN A PLAYER MUST RUN TO THE NEXT BASE - is merely touching the base enough.
Sometimes “the force is taken off.” For example, runner at first base, ball hit to first baseman at the bag. If first baseman fields the ball and steps on first base the batter is out, of course, but the runner running to second base MUST NOW BE TAGGED OUT because it’s no longer a “force out” at second base because, the batter retired, the runner running to second could actually return to first base. He no longer MUST run to second.
It can get confusing, but remember the first thing. If the runner MUST run to the base, tagging is not required, touching the base is enough. If he DOESN’T HAVE TO RUN TO THE BASE, tagging is required. YET, even if tagging isn’t required, tagging is still allowed.
Hope this alleviates your confusion!!!
Yes there are triple plays they are pretty rare.
If a player is forced to run, the fielder only needs to step on the bag, its called a force out, for example, if you have runners on 1st and 3rd base, the runner on 1st HAS to run if its a grounder, since the batter is trying to get to 1st. This is a force out, so the fielder only has to touch the base, however, in the same example, with runners on 1st and 3rd, if a batter hits a ground ball, the player coming from 3rd (who doesnt have to run since 2nd base is unoccupied), he will have to be tagged out at home if he chooses to run. When an outfielder makes a catch, all runners must go back to their base, once they get back, they can run again, which is called "tagging up", in this situation the fielder must tag the runner once he 'tags up' and decided to advance, but if he is caught BEFORE he "tags up" then its a force out and the fielder only needs to touch the base. Base stealer will always need to be tagged out.
You can get somebody out by tagging them when they're not on a base (the base is a "safe" place for them), or by getting the ball to another player on your team before the runner reaches that base. But the latter only occurs when the baserunner HAS to move there because the batter hit the ball and he has to leave the base and run to the next one (you can't have two runners on the same base). So if the bases are loaded (runners on first, second, and third) and a ball is hit by the batter, all the runners must move to the next base, so if a fielder throws the ball to any of his teammates who is standing on a base, and the ball gets there before the runner, than that runner is out. Yes, there's a great video on triple-plays which is fabulous! Oh, and if you hit a fly ball (in the air, doesn't touch the ground) and it's caught, a runner on any base can only try to run for the next base AFTER the ball is caught. It's called "tagging up" when the runner steps on the base and waits for the ball to be caught so he can try to run safely to the next base. Since he's not being "forced" by another runner, he has to be tagged by the fielder in order for the runner to be out. Even if the fielder is standing on the base and the ball is thrown to him and he catches it before the runner gets there, he must tag him before the runner reaches the base. Because the runner isn't being "forced" to run.
Force outs are when the runner can`t retreat back to the base he left because there is a man on the base behind him.Can`t have two men on one base.Another type of force out is when a man in the field catches a ball on the fly.A man on base must retreat to the base he left.All other times the man has to be tagged with the ball.
If a runner is forced to run you only have to tag the base, if he’s running with nobody behind him you have to tag him. Also a runner has to wait til a ball in the air is caught to run otherwise you can tag him or his base to get him out
Don’t need to tag because it’s a force out the runner has to get to the next base
I think you'd enjoy the video called "The Most Acrobatic Plays of Fernando Tatis, Jr." Tatis Jr.gets a lot of unwarranted hate in my opinion.
What you're asking about is a "force play" -- ua-cam.com/video/0QQ5bsR19Uc/v-deo.html