Would Carmelo Anthony Have a Ring If Drafted to the Pistons? - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker react to Carmelo Anthony not remembering who the Pistons decided to draft over him in the 2003 NBA Draft. This was revealed in a live video conversation between Melo and Dwyane Wade.
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Darko Milicic and Andrea Bargnani are the reasons why Luka didn’t go number 1 overall
Gappy Hillmore Do you know who Dragan Bender plays for? He was a top 5 pick...smh
SupremeSaiyan1 they thought he was the next kristaps 😂
Omg forgot all about Andrea Bargani...straight bust...lol
Yea Dragan Bender a bust too...smh
...people are quick to label Bargnani a bust but forget that in 2010-11 he averaged 21pts per game and 19pts the following season.
"...He did win a ring" while talking about Milicic.
Rob Parker might the GTOAT. The greatest Troll of all time.
He’s become worse than Drip
@@the_auditor1017 lmao
That would be Vlad TV
Rob: He’s not a Cancer, he was born in January he’s a Capricorn
Me: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Detroit would’ve been the best thing to happen to Melo. Would’ve taught him to buy into the team mentality and defense. Melo would’ve started Day 1. That team needed a go to scorer and Melo would’ve been it. They may not have beaten LA, but they would’ve had a dynasty moving forward. People forget he took a Denver team that won 16 games prior to drafting him to the playoffs his rookie year.
Wilt Chamberlain GOD of NBA you say that while having the biggest stat padding selfish player ever as your profile picture
@@Aceboogie_13 And he's literally copying and pasting that crap on every comment he can lol. Melo smashed his ho. That's all that is.
It would've only been the best thing to happen to Melo IF Melo was open to Larry Brown's coaching style and coming off the bench behind a guy he DEFINITELY would've thought he was better than. There's no guarantee that he would've even though I respect Chauncy's leadership and that locker room.
Melo would have came off the bench and they still would have beaten the lakers and probably the spurs
@@mantrell502 no probably, that would have definitely happened and I'm a laker fan. The pistons should beat the spurs straight up, but if they had melo? Lmao. They would have swept em.
Chris Broussard, Carmelo Anthony did lead the NBA in scoring in 2013.
And they call themselves expects smh. Kd actually scored more points than Melo that season but Melo did win the scoring title.
If they drafted Melo in '03 then you wouldn't have traded for Rasheed in 04. Thus no rings
Lol Rasheed wallace is trash compared to melo. Gtfoh. His best years dont compare to melos rookie season. And he wasnt the reason they won that year. He was the worst player on their starting 5. His only job was to offset ben wallace complete lack of scoring. Melo could have done that easily. Even as a rookie coming off the bench.
@@Mr.Hall3850 real basketball fans know past prime Rasheed was better then rookie Melo. Don't look like an idiot
@@jayplunks true, but Sheed was still in his prime in '04. He was only 30 and had a couple of more all star seasons after that year they won the championship.
@@Israel-nb7ip 30 in the 2000's are different then it is now but I get your point. The thing is if Melo was drafted by the pistons then the Rasheed trade would not have gone down. Plus you had Prince and Williamson playing the 3
@@jayplunks Rasheed made multiple all star games after '04 and even back then 30 yrs old was the peak of your prime. Also, I think they still make that trade for Sheed cuz he was the final piece that put them over the top and they got him for peanuts. Plus, he fit perfectly with the Pistons especially with Melo on the roster cuz of his unselfishness offensively and great defense.
Melo being 19 years old woulda been forced to become AT minimum a above average defender. His entire role woulda been different nuggets FORCED melo to be a scorer and leader. Chauncey woulda made melo special the Lebron melo argument woulda probably lasted till melo was like 30
For sure I think he would have been a different player with that squad in
Correction Chauncey Billups went to 7 consecutive conference finals 6 with the pistons and 1 with the nuggets
Imagine if Bron got a legit sidekick in his first stint with Cleveland 😱
Like a Stephen Jackson or rip
@@strangerthanparadise more like 2 with Bosh, still lost to 1 Nowitzki. oh well
Rob Parker is forgetting that the Pistons only traded for Sheed at the deadline because Darko was such a bust. They needed that eztea scorer, if Melo would have added that scoring punch, they would not have traded for Sheed
Jamar Rippy sheed was a great defender too and another body vs shaq. Who knows if they could/ would have made that trade. At the end of the day pistons won without Melo but Melo got his 4 Olympic golds 😂
No they traded for sheed to fill that other post presence role that darko couldn’t fill which they still would have needed & most likely made the trade because Melo wouldn’t have been much of a post presence & they definitely needed the defensive help down in the paint.. so I think they still would have made that trade because it would’ve made even more sense basketball wise
@@biggotti2744 a team probably would have asked to get either melo or Prince.
@@biggotti2744 yeah, when you look at what they gave up for Sheed I still think they make that trade especially since he was that last piece that put them over the top. Even with Melo Sheed would've been perfect for how that team was built especially since he was unselfish offensively and excellent defensively.
Easy to say this now. But there is no telling unless it would have happened. You could say that about a lot of players
jmaggs 543r - Duh!
True, but there was very little excuse to not take melo at 2. He was a top prospect in high school, goes to college averages monster numbers and leads his team to national championship as a freshman. Almost any other year he's the consensus #1 pick. It just so happened he was in the same draft as the most hyped prospect of all time. So really this is more of a what shouldve happened as opposed to just a random could've happened.
People just throw around winning 3 rings like it’s no big deal though. There’s so many great players that never won one let alone 3. So when people say he could have won 3 or 4 I think that’s a bit of a stretch
@@jnorth5689 3 or 4 may be a stretch. However I definitely don't think 1 or 2 is. Really to me though, the biggest part of the what if is what happens after that core falls apart. Melo would be seen as a winning player as he won in his only college year and would've won in his early years in the NBA. And being around championship culture from the beginning might've made him a more effective and less ball hog of a player in the long run. Or maybe he sees it as his opportunity to put up numbers without having to defer. (Like kobe right after shaq left or Westbrook when kd left) Who knows?
Rob is embarrassing himself on this one ..... you cant even name 3 Big plays Darko made in either of the years Detroit made their Finals run..... Melo at minimum would have given them points during offensive droughts and been serviceable on defense smh
James Williams THANK YOU
Carmelo would've had to be like Kawhi in San Antonio...wait for his time..
Larry Brown did a Great job with The Philadelphia 76ers! Coaching Allen Iverson
Social Therapy Mag he took the Clippers to the playoffs back then in the early-mid 90s... that team sucked A$$
Yes he lead the league in scoring 😂they hate him can’t even speak facts about him
No ball hogging , no defense star has ever led their team to a championship
He wouldn't have owed them anywhere idiot. He would have came off the bench and u act like that team wasnt full of leaders and didn't have great coaching. He would have at least 2 rings and them weak ass spurs would have gotten swept.
@Jimmy Taylor Kobe played defense you idiot
@Jimmy Taylor kobe was like 10 times all defensive 1st team.
@Jimmy Taylor it was fan service? Why? cuz u say so? Lol the fact still remains. Nobody cares about ur opinion
@Jimmy Taylorlol ok clown
Pistons won the chip that next year but they have been cursed sense, that was one of the worst picks and blunders in draft history
The one thing that they are missing completely is that Carmelo Anthony was a pretty good defensive player when he was younger his first seven eight years in the league he was very good on offense and defense. More importantly his offense was so tremendous that they could have brought him off the bench in a Lou Williams type role and been a far better team early in his career
Facts
Melo would have had 2 or 3 easy. That Detroit team went to the finals twice and East finals 6 straight times. Melo would have at least push them pass to 3 of those finals and maybe win at least 1.
I would've took Bosh at 2 because we needed a 4 at that time. Because Tayshawn Prince was emerging as the 3. We only got sheed because Darko was never a solid NBA player from day 1
Your 100% right
Exactly, they had no reason to draft melo cause they just drafted Prince the year before. And he was a young defensive-minded player who was developing offensively.
So why they hell did they draft him
Bosh played no defense
Bosh's game would've actually fit perfectly next to Ben Wallace. And, who knows, maybe they still go out and get Sheed in a trade to put them over the top? Wallace and Sheed were both already 30 by the time that season ended, and Ben Wallace ended up leaving in free agency 3 years later and not ever being the defensive player and athlete he was from '00-'06.
He would definitely won his rookie year, just like Darko did, riding the bench..
Ruata Sanga Accurate
Chauncey Billups actually made it to 6 straight conference finals. Melo is actually a good system player he most likely would have adjusted to the team.
Actually, Billups went to seven conference finals. Six with the Pistons and once with the Nuggets.
@@Doknot-tb9ey true
@@MrBuddyNelson Melo a good systems player? Really? What system? Iso ball as the #1 option?
@@Israel-nb7ip I mean he's a good team player that can adjust in a good system like he did his first year playing with Chauncey Billups and the U.S. teams.
The reason why clueless Joe Dumars said he picked Darko over Melo was because he said he saw Darko during a workout by himself!!! and he said that individual workout by himself!!! That's what made him choose Darko and that single decision destroyed Dumars career as a GM.
He definitely would. Adding him to that team would be what they needed to at least win 3 titles.
@Wilt Chamberlain GOD of NBA Clearly, Melo has smashed your girl.
Melo fist year he would have came off the bench they would have won with the extra scoring
He Could Of Had A Ring If He Would Have Come On Down To MIA😅
And he went to the wcf with Denver with Chauncey billups at the point image young melo with Chauncey in prime y'all make me sick I hate these Carmelo trolls wtf
A young Melo going to that type of team with the defensive mindset of those guys would’ve soaked it all in because he wouldn’t have been brought in as the savior.. people fail to realize that Melo was drafted to Denver as a franchise saver & wasn’t really asked to play any defense coming in, they needed all of his energy focused on the offensive end.. going to Detroit as a young role player, those guys would’ve installed that defensive mentality into him from the jump & he would’ve developed into a good defender & with his natural ability to score would have made that team even more great
Melo was a better defensive player than what they are saying. Melo would have been an offensive burst that the Pistons could have used during their championship runs.
He definitely would’ve won a ring with the pistons
Chauncey Billups and Rasheed Wallace were, no question, both stars and had multiple All Stars. They weren't Superstars but that era lacked many Superstars to begin with. From 1998-2004, after MJ retired, the NBA lacked much star power. 2004 Pistons had 3 All Stars on their starting 5. Not many teams have that luxury so please stop saying that 2004 Pistons won a ring with no stars cause its plain false.
Their chemistry is great om this show...fuckin love it
That first caller was nuts lol
Larry Brown the best coach ever? The guy that won a bronze medal with the Us team? Laughable
That piston team was equivalent to the legion of boom in Seattle a mistake there and there kept them from being a great team in history
I have seen several videos saying this same thing and I'm disappointed that Chris Broussard jumped on board with this bullshit narrative. The hate for Melo is so great that people can't even look at reality. The idea that rookie Melo would be such a diva that,not only does he not add titles, he would actually take a title away. Most all-time great players had an all-time great coach, especially the ones that won titles. Larry Brown wouldn't have let Melo start, and Melo probably would have been a better player if he had LB as his first coach. Not to mention that Melo could have, at worst, done the same nothing that Darko did
04 Kobe eating Melo alive
05 bruce Bowen locking him down
06 they not beating Miami
07 he ain't Fn with that Spurs team
08 They wasn't getting past Boston
Lol kobe couldn't even handle Rip Hamilton, and steve nash knocked his ass out the first round of the playoffs till they got Gasol. Bruce Bowen traah ass got smoked routinely by elete scorers
@@AuburnFanSince2010 look it up bruh. Melo had a 5 point game against the spurs that year
I always said Prince was Pippen lite on those Pistons teams.
So what you are saying is you could have put a scorer on a defensive team.... Sounds good, in fact it sounds scary AF. Teach Mello to play defense early on, it would have changed his whole career.
Exactly ! Ben Wallace as your vet...
This Rob Parker best take ever
He has led the league in scoring I think 2013
Who knows if Melo had the right coach he could’ve been a good defensive player with that Pistons team.
Honestly if you look it up Chauncey Billups said that he cared more about individual stats than winning
@@SH-jd3zg but that was Melo who already was in tha league years tho.. can't compare a vet Melo to a rookie Melo
@@mylestonah_kruezeeznk8214 can't argue with that. I'm just questioning if Melo came into the league with that mentality or if it grew on him.
@@SH-jd3zg imo I think it grew on him. He was making tha playoffs b4 Wade n Bron.. I don't think he had tha right ppl around him
Doug Gottlieb is the last person they should listen to 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Melo did leadd the league in scoring the year 2012-13. He was also 3rd in the mvp ballet.
Carmelo wasn't ever ever ever gonna win a Chip because he WILL NOT PLAY D
Rod Epps where u get drafted & who u play with changes everything the pistons had dogs they would of been on melo ass
Dirk never played defense
Carmelo woulda had a completely different structure. Chauncey older helped melo get to western conference finals. Carmelo woulda came off the bench they probably woulda won both and by year 3 instead of the team breaking up melo coulda became a started and continued that team dynasty putting more pressure on his back. Melo whole career woulda been crazy
If he shot 20 + shots a game with a low percentage, played no defense, got no rebounds, and was a bad passer, then no.
The 03-05 Detroit Pistons would absolutely be a top 5 all time teams with winning back 2 back.
Rob Parker: "I don't think Melo woulda played".... *Turns off video*
Melo has a scoring title
He actually did win a scoring title 12-13
What if pistons would've drafted melo and traded him?🤣
a better one would be what if pistons drafted wade. better offensive and defensive player. Better team player too
Rob...the Pistons holding the opponents under 70 streak hit 5 games in a row, and would have been 6 games, but the Nets took a foul to get an extra possession at the end of the game to attempt to get over 70, and they unfortunately did. The Nets CELEBRATED THE LOSS, not a win.
The Pistons over the course of the season held opponents under 70 points 11 times, and did it 6 more times in the playoffs.
And one more thing Rob...Tom Brady is THE G.O.A.T.!!
Ya'll crazy, Billups-Hamilton-Carmelo-Rasheed-Ben, I assure you that works lol. And in that first year, if Melo is coming off the bench as you two prognosticate, how on earth do they not still win the championship?? Walking away with 2 rings, bare minimum.
Doug Gottlieb is a terrible scout lol
Melo off the bench with Chauncey as his mentor... pistons win at least 2 or 3 rings
Marty from Kentucky is on the show more than Rob Parker wow
He did lead the league is scoring once and anyone who doesn’t think Melo is a first ballot Hofer is a hater
Melo should have won ROY! Melo is right, he wins 2 rings with the Pistons. Melo would have been like Vinny Johnson coming of the bench.
You guys are crazy Melo on that team n u talk about one situation for the Whole series
Mellow style is too ISO driven. I think it would have messed up the chemistry. He always needs a spotlight
Ben Wallace said something similar to what you said.
I'm Still Pissed They Didn't Take Melo At Number Two. 😩
Duh Carmelo Anthony would have at least have about 2 rings if he was drafted by the Pistons and anyone who knows basketball knows that. That was one of if not the biggest Mistake in The Piston's basketball history
Melo was a NCAA champ and a scoring machine and DET takes the unknown euro guy instead smh 😂
Rule of the draft you take the best player
Dumars should’ve been fired right after making that pick. No European before then was ever worth being picked that high. Picking melo or wade was a no-brainer.
Carmelo would have a ring if he'd listen to Labron & DWade's plan to join up. (Bosh was the back up plan) However, melo wanted the immediate max money.....and got what he wanted. Now shut up, and enjoy your money and fine wife.
The answer is NO NO NO. There's a reason Carmelo doesn't have a ring. His style of ball doesn't work in the playoffs were defenses are usually better. Playing iso isn't what the Pistons were know for. He would have thrown a wrench into their system.
Rob Parker says that Melo wouldn't have gotten any playing time and they wouldn't have even won 1 chip, but that doesn't make sense. If he wouldn't have played how could he have altered the outcome?
If Melo was Drafted by Detroit, they still would have won the title in 2004 and possibly the following year. If he was a good fit it probably would have made him more of a two-way player going forward, but Melo will be in the HOF regardless. When you look at his college season, NBA career averages and Olympic/FIBA numbers he should be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer.
Chauncey was in the conference finals for 7 straight seasons.. Robs forgetting that he made it to the finals two previous seasons ( which he obviously was in the conference finals ,winning one and losing the other and also lost to the nets in 2003 in the conference finals. From 2003-2009 Chauncey made it at least the conference finals ( six with the pistons and one with the nuggets in his last year of that decade
They called darko the human cigar because he came in at the end of games of blowouts.
No. Melo would’ve made them worse
Stop that BS narrative that the pistons had no stars. Billups and Rasheed Wallace were among the most talented players at their positions. You are confusing talent with popularity.
Carmelo would not have a ring if drafted by the pistons, he's about highlights and stats, plus he plays no defense....
I’m tired of the Melo disrespect
Some people really don’t know basketball & speak out of feelings for a player
The biggest mistake Joe Dumars ever made. That ended his job and rightfully so.
The disrespect towards Melo is crazy, that Pistons team would’ve won 2-3 Championships, let’s not act like the Pistons didn’t go to the Eastern Conference finals 5-6 years straight!
Darko was in a very unfortunate situation
No. They don’t trade for Rasheed if they get Melo. And that means no rings.
"It was like a lebron chase down". Tayshaun been doing it way before lebron
No... Detroit wouldn't have needed to pick up sheed. Melo didn't play the defense tayshaun did. Melo ain't getting that block on Reggie Miller.
First of all, Melo would have been a luxury because Darko didn’t give them anything. Under Larry Brown, a young Melo fresh out of Syracuse would be a great fit. Even if he wouldn’t be a great fit, Detroit still could’ve won with Melo coming off of the bench.
Rookie Melo or Wade, off the bench would’ve been nice. Then RIP/Prince off the bench would’ve been in like ‘06. So yay maybe 3 rings. Or never get Sheed and never get a ring. ‘05 and ‘07 still hurts. Developing Darko hurts the most.
Chris be low-key hating just as much as Rob
The Melo disrespect is crazy! They would have won back to back with Melo. They could have brought him off if the bench and he would have been instant offense for them. People honestly think as a rookie coming in he wouldn’t have bought into playing defense? Stop it! He was never known to have an ego coming out of college. He would have bought in and been great for them. Them drafting Darko over him was just flat out stupid.
Bro these guys hate is ridiculous!! Rookie Melo on that team would of been COMING OFF THE BENCH!! A much needed scoring machine off the bench to help them win those 2 years back 2 back. These guys talking about melo like he was prime melo 25yrs old and the main guy... The PISTONS would of also had a longer run as an elite team once melo made the starting line up.. LB would of known how to use Melos elite scoring ability and protect him defensively just like he did for A.I.. Not to mention melo was more then capable to guard one on one and those Piston teams would of pushed em to do so they wasn't with that lol.
Melo would have fucked the Pistons up. He would have hindered the great Tayshaun Prince's development and we probably wouldn't have ended up with Rasheed. The 04 Pistons chemistry was perfect and with a young flashy rookie in the mix, I'm not sure we would have got the championship.
Those Pistons went to 6 straight eastern conference finals and back to back finals in 04 and 05. You mean to tell me that melo in his third year wont be favored against dwade and the old man heat or lebron and no one else cavs of the next year? he would of went to 5 finals at least two rings
Everybody's take on this is nuts. The pistons would have without question won the chips in 2004 and 2005 with melo. First the guy he is replacing is not Tayshan it is darko. If he did not play defense then he could not get on the floor. if he is not helping the team then he has the same role as darko and they won the chip in 2004 and since darkko was a non factor if melo is not working they still win the exact same way. and Since he has to play defense to get on the court his defense is much improved. and a melo who is better defender would have helped them win in 2005.
Yes he would, prolly 2
This is such a ridiculous discussion. This is a one to one comparison of whether or not Darko or Melo is better. Did Darko do ANYTHING significant on the Pistons to make them a championship caliber team? NOOOO!!!! Did Darko do anything DEFENSIVELY that Melo couldn't do? NOOOO!!!!! Is there ANYTHING Darko significantly BETTER than Melo? NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! So if I take Darko off that team and put Melo on and everything else is the same, the question is could Melo have helped AT LEAST AS MUCH AS Darko? That is an easy YEESSSS!!!!! Maybe Melo doesn't reach his Hall of Fame stats if he's deep on the bench. Maybe like T-Mac he leaves to go to another team so he can "be the man and start" and then showcases more of his offensive game, but there's no reason to think Melo couldn't match Darko's production.
So what Melo did vs Kobe in the WCF doesn’t count?
He most likely would have been a different player than the Carmelo we know today.
That 2004 detroit team is prolly tge greatest defensive team ever. Prolly together with 96 bulls. MJ, pip, and relatively still prime rodman. He totally shutdown shaq. Dont believe me. UA-cam shaq vs rodman on youtube. Maybe knick 70 knicks. But i dont know that team. I'm just 41.
6:02 The Pistons would have extended that 11 game streak holding opponents to 70 points or if it weren't for the New Jersey Nets.
The Nets, down 69-88 intentionally fouled the Pistons to get the ball back and reached 71 with an Aaron Williams tip-in with 1 second left. They were blown out but were visibly laughing and celebrating the loss rather proudly I remember.
I remember this game like it was yesterday and rob parker got paid to know this stuff while he was covering the pistons 🤦🏾♂️
Pistons could have used Melo when Bron was giving them the business in the 07 conference finals.
Maybe, but Big Ben is what they really missed in that serious. No way Bron buttfuck 'em like that with Wallace guarding the paint.
@@videoorgy I hear u but Melo would have made Bron work on defense.
@@kwabenadonkor1865 Absolutely. I just think our biggest problem was stopping him defensively. GOD, I will never get over that series. Or that game, rather.
@@videoorgy yea either would have work Ben would have definitely made Bron earn the inside buckets and Melo would make Bron work on defense. Y'all should have won that series though cause cavs had no business going to the finals that year. It wouldn't have been a sweep
Orrrrr Melo would've developed wayyy better defensive habits early making him an immediate superstar .... chris and Rob I love yall but yall hating a lil bit my brothers 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Pistons didn't have sheed yet! They traded for him mid season and that changed there team
Melo has eon a scoring title. Im embarrassed that the hosts didnt know.