2023 KTM 350 EXC-F - Dirt Bike Magazine
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- Опубліковано 19 лют 2023
- #offroad #dirtbike #explore #sports
KTM wasn’t the first company to make a serious dirt-worthy dual-sport bike, but you can give the Austrian company credit for making the concept truly legit. The KTM 350EXC-F goes back to 2012 and was most recently revamped in 2020. KTM’s off-road and dual sport models continue to use PDS rear suspension sans linkage. This is the most significant difference between the current KTM and Husqvarna dual-sports. PDS has the advantage of being about 6 pounds lighter and providing greater ground clearance than linkage designs. Otherwise, the two Austrian dual-sport bikes are similar. They both use WP Xact forks with steel coil springs. The KTM uses a cast triple clamp to hold the fork on and if you look close, there are a number of other components that differ, as well. The KTM has Brembo brakes and a Brembo clutch master cylinder. It also uses a Neken handlebar and Excel rims. As far as the motors go, the KTM and Husky have six-speed gearboxes and double overhead cams with four-valves and finger follower valve trains, just like the motocross bikes. The KTM uses a reed valve in the air boot, although that boot has a different shape than the Husky’s because the PDS shock allows more space. That and a different airbox design are the only design features that might account for any difference in performance between them. The KTM also comes with handguards, a skidplate and a radiator fan. The tires are Continentals which were replaced with more aggressive Metzeler MC360s. The KTM sells for $12,149 and weighs 239 pounds without fuel.
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To make a small correction; I misspoke when I said the 350EXC comes with a WP Xact fork. It is the Xplor fork. Sorry about that!
Nice video edit! That tree notch jump was really cool. I have 2020 500 and love it. Watching this more for entertainment than specific information, just trying to pass the time before the snow melts...
There is a 2018 500 exc f for 8999 how is that compared to 2023 350 for 10999
dirtbike magazine,please do more reviews on dual sport Bikes..I like to watch em before considering to buy one....one reason,I just want to know about HP, Torque, Maintenance...
MAN … you really give a ton of good information. We’ll done as usual.
my 2019 350 excf is perfect for trails. I am so happy with mine. you don't need more power than that unless you want to use it on the freeway or if you racing on the desert.
Got my 2023 excf in August 2022 and I love it. Can't wait to get a ecu and an exhaust on it. Will be a absolute monster.
Duel sport, duel sport, More duel sport!
Gotta get that Honda CRF 450RL on this too.
How about reviewing these duel sports after the mods, after tires, ECU and pipe at least?
I am getting the 2024 500 exc-f and I can’t wait!! Orange fever has struck! I just got the 2023 250 xc baby !!
Should I get the new 350 or the 500?
@@TopRevs if you want to go on road 500. Off-road only 350
@@MR.TOYBOX i would like to do both
@@TopRevs 500 no questions asked!
@@MR.TOYBOX That's what I'm thinking. And I think the 350 cost just as much as the 500?
Impressive and lovely....the best motorcycle and the best reviewer, Indonesia 🇮🇩☮️♥️👍
Great bike. Thanks!
Its funny. Iv been riding dirtbikes since i was 8, and in the 17 years iv been riding, all my bikes have had a traditional linkage suspension set up in the back. 18 months ago ( or so ), i picked up a 22 excf 350 with the pds rear suspension. And i gotta say i love it. Wouldn't go back to linkage. As expected, i have heard so many mixed opinions on it, but personally, iv never had a better handling bike. Especially one straight out of the box. I absolutely love it on the enduro, supercross, mx, grass, sand, you name it. It just eats it up and loves it. And im so glad they havnt gone to air suspension in the front of the exc range because air forks is one think i personally hate and dont understand, again ( another mixed opinion ) but sticking with the pds topic i Absolutely love it and it doesnt get caught up on anything. Absolutely love the bike and can't say im in any hurry to upgrade or go with something else.
I feel like I would be tempted to modify it. Prolly better to start with the 500 haha.
…and yet “lightweight, compact, & excellent handling” is exactly what you want in NYC
Wow great. !!!
My 2017 Husqvarna 350 is proving the perfect trail bike for me, including some lightweight camping. Mine has been turned into a Rally Raid ultra lightweight adv bike for really off road touring. I love it. 20 hours for oil changes but keeping a very close eye on my levels works. 30 hours means filthy oil, 10 hours for trail riding is too frequent. The bigger tank is really useful. My 17 litre tank gives me about 290 safe km, about 170 miles.
The laughable small amount of engine oils in these modern 4-stroke dual-sport bikes is their Achilles heel.
We recommend that our customers change their oil after every ride!
Fail to do so at your peril and pocket book.
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp noted but 20 hours is pretty typical, if not a bit frequent, for trail riders. A friend of mine races Rally on a KTM 500 and he rides massively harder than I do an he's changing every 20 to 30 hours. I am paranoid about levels though, checking level every stop with 4 x 250ml bottles of oil. My 701 has a 1.7 litre oil capacity, with a 10,000 km alleged oil change but I've never got near that, I change after every big trip, which can be 2,000 to 5,000 km. I think I'm okay having a physical look at the oil. At 10 hours it was still bottle fresh, 20 hours, still dark caramel. 30 hours, creosote black.
What about a bigger clutch cover so you can have a bit more oil in it?
I just changed the oil on my fe350 after five hours and it was like new. Pretty obvious since it has only been five hours, but with me as a rider on these enduro practices it sees a lot of extreme lugging and rev limit action with clutch halfway in 😅
@@JohannesDalen sadly, Johannes, I cannot find a clutch cover for the 2017 FE 350 which increases the capacity by more than 100ml. If anyone knows of such a cover, share it with me. If I could get an increase of 300ml or more I'd be very interested. My 350 gets used for trails, usually at a gentle pace. If I have a clear view and I know I am not going to run into horses, dog walkers, hikers I will go at it, but most of my distance on the bike is carried out at fairly sedate speed, but on road sections, with 48 teeth on the rear, I am cruising at 110/120 kph.
You sure do make that look like a fun bike! I wish I could ride like that.
You can do it!
Thanks! Great job as always
I like this guy
Is this a good bike for slow speed woods crawling and trailing, and mudding or should I buy a KLX300 for 1/2 the price?
I have the klx 300 2024 ❤❤❤
I have a 2018 KTM 350 excf. Replace the exhaust with a 350 xcf muffler, remove the intake reeds, and add a fuel turner... Instant HP gain and less heat as the bike can breathe better. Great bike. Do it all bike!
Anyone know much about the Sherco sef factory line up of bikes?
Yes! 😍
A company makes a dolphin colored themed graphics kit! It’s sick. Roll Tide !
Can I make an xcf-w out of the exc-f? Can't find anymore '22 models. Thanks from MN.
The xcf models generally have the “motocross engine “ ie more agressive cams ,straight thru exhaust ,close ratio gearbox ( i am generalising but yes you could make exc more like an xc ,it can be done but it comes down to cost / time etc .
@@dereknagy4072 a North American XCF-W is similar to the European version of the EXC. You’re thinking of the XC-F (no ‘W’) I think, whereas the OP is asking about the XCF-W. 👍
Yes, if you switched out the relevant parts for a Europe spec EXC, you’d end up very close to an XCF-W. Not sure how viable that is for you, but it’s an option. 👍
Only difference I’m aware of is the extra lights, switch gear for the street legal stuff (including tires, rim locks etc) the emissions crap (including the more restricted end cap on the muffler) and maybe the ecu mapping. I think they’re a bit leaner on the exc’s but could be wrong on that.
@@dereknagy4072 US market has 3 different models. XC’s, EXC and XCFW’s. The EXC and W have the same parents. The XC is a cousin
How does the beta RRS compare?
I’ve heard they don’t have as strict of restrictions on the engine but I’ve got no firsthand knowledge.
I want to see that to.. the betas are not restricted like the ktm, also for the price, you think they can put led lights on.. BETA has led lighting..little less in price, not much.. ive owned ktm and love them, but I will take a look at beta rrs... my boy had the 300rr dirt.. that was badass to... PEACE MY FELLOW RIDERS
Can anyone please explain to me, an ignorant European, why do you call EXC bikes dual sports in America? In Europe the EXC bikes are enduros and the SX bikes are motocross, both are high performance, high maintenance off road machines, but the EXC ones are tuned more for trail riding and has the parts to make them road legal for riding from trail to trail. Are the US EXC bikes different to the European ones? To my understanding a dual sport bike is something like a Honda CRF300L which is underpowered and much lower performing but also much lower maintenance compared to the EXC's.
In America, a dual sport is what we call an off road bike that is street legal. It does not refer only to underpowered bikes like the Honda. Because the KTM has a license plate, we call it a dual sport. If it were off road only it would be called an enduro. However it is the 350 EXC-F, F meaning dual sport (street legal).
@@ridgeridermotothe line up goes
Dual Sport: EXCF
Offroad: XC (F) or XC-(F)W
Motocross: SX or SXF
@@thorgeirnable i stand corrected
@@ridgeridermoto wasnt trying to correct. I actually meant to reply to the original post but oh well
This bike with the indicators etc looked better than what we have in Europe
I have a 2018 excf 350 I tweaked everything mapping, exhaust there's a KTM Yoda search "Best dual sport bikes" anyways I ride around Chicago like a hooligan which is easy to do on this bike
How tall is that rider?
XPLOR fork, not XACT
Get ECU, new pipe, remove the reeds. 10hp gain and like a totally different and better bike.
Will dealer do this work ?
@@Dreweldeenknives no it's illegal to do
what is the difference with a 350 xcf-w ?? are the the same
No emissions, and not street legal
Yea...DM for more
The Rieju 300 will eat the KTM 350 for breakfast and at 7400€ it has to be the most bang for your euro anywhere.
Harley bikes are not "quiet" but still street legal. Why?
A stock Harley with stock exhaust is quiet. No louder than a Japanese bike with stock exhaust. Aftermarket pipes are whats loud
15 miles extra from an aftermarket tank??
Depends on your riding. A stock 500 gets 100mi+ from a tank filled to the brim, riding bellow 50mph. No reason the 350 wouldn't match that.
@@gophop If you ride 55mph on the freeway you can go 120 miles, I've done it, but once you hit the dirt, all bets are off and you'll get around 30mpg as a novice, 25 as a pro, like this guy
This bike is so corked up and slow,put a fmf exhaust system on it with a vortex ecu and swap the cams for the sxf cams...voilà!! A real fast 350 enduro that beats the 500exc or 300tbi
$12k you could buy two KLX300s but of course nice bike but $12k yikes
I got the chance to ride one and now I understand why they are so expensive. The performance is as good as it gets.
The KLX300R needs about $1000 in parts to max its potential out and it still won't be close to the performance of the corked KTM. I have one that's bone stock and it can do just about anything, just way slower. And did I mention it's an absolute pig? It wears you out being so heavy. I'm going to get a KTM and keep the green one for guests to ride. It's a great cheap ride and I recommend it unless you have the cash for a KTM then get the better machine.
Sooo right out of the box a guy has to buy tires to ride it properly in the dirt? What happen to their Moto?.......( Ready to race )or at least ride in the dirt. Its closer to a dirt bike then an ADV bike. This is why I switch to Beta👍
Too bad you test almost everything in California.
Like it or not, California is the motorcycle capital of the US and Los Angeles is a huge publishing center.
Emission BS is killing motorsport, time to say enough.
Husaberg is the better bike ha ha
Those fork crowns, upper and lower are FORGED , look at the separation lines. If your going to play expert and review a world class bike learn something about manufacturing and get it right. So many of you motorcycle reviewers want to compre Euro bikes to Japanese but don't have a clue how much more durable they are because they don't compromise and use cheaper steel frames, cast AL upper fork clamps, durable foot pegs. the Spanish bike would still be available it back in the late 60's & 70's the reviewers paid off and weren't not manufacturing and materials dummies. I raced vintage motorcross for years and anyone who knows anything knows the the Eurobikes generally used much better meterials and last longer WO breaking or needing to be rebuilt. You get what you pay for.