The Micro3x has been the perfect enhancement for my Eotech XPS3, the holosight comes through exceptionally clear and the QD mount attaches solidly. I may end up never taking this combo off my Kel-Tec RDB.
I took a look through both of these magnifiers at a store and was shocked that the cheaper VMX-3T looked better. Sharper and brighter image. The store clerk said it is because of my eyes and all our eyes are different which is why I preferred the VMX-3T. The lesson? Go look through these optics before you buy. I’m getting the VMX-3T.
That is a relief and good to hear because I just bought the VMX -3T not the micro. So the old one looks better that is great news. Thanks I was just looking at the old one and its very clear. I have not seen the micro but I will take your word for it. plus .2 and . 6 is hardly any noticeable difference in eye relief lets get real. 4 tenths of a inch. I doubt I could tell much difference.
Too bad you can't share photos in the comments. Santa was nice enough to bring me a micro 3x this xmas to go with my huey gen II and the site pic is crisp and clean. Sent a pic to my buddy after install.
I bought a vortex monocular once… it was so nice my mom stole it for birdwatching. Excited to put the vmx3t red dot and magnifier on my gun soon where I know my mom won’t touch it.
@@alexstarling3229 It's simple, if only the red dot would be magnified, then you are correct. But when you take into account that everything else also becomes bigger, then your red dot compared to the target is still 2 MOA you klnow. because both the dot AND the target are now X3. So at the end, the net result is null.
Info from Focus Camera Website Vortex VMX-3T Reflex Sight Magnifier Magnification: 3.0x Main Tube Diameter: 30 mm Eye Relief: 3.25" Field of View: 38.2 ft (11.6 m) at 100 yd Length: 4.3" (11 cm) Weight: 11.9 oz (337 g) Info from Vortex Optics Website Vortex VMX-3T Reflex Sight Magnifier Magnification NA Eye Relief 2.2 inches Field of View 38.2 feet/100 yards Length 4.3 inches Weight 11.9 oz Odd that other sites have different specs posted for the same magnifiers.
I've been running a VMX-3T for a while now and like it. However, I've discovered that rifle weight has become an issue for me. I'm thinking the Micro 3x will help save weight some, but is also easier to remove quickly if that's what I need
Dammit I’ve been pounding the I internet mainly UA-cam and I think I’ve come to the conclusion of going with Vortex red dot and magnifier! This stuff is fun!
Needs more eye relief. As it is now, you have to mount it where your backup iron sight should go. It should have more eye relief or a cantilevered mount so it can be used when mounted in front of a backup iron sight.
I have no issues mounting my VMT-3T with my Magpull MBUS backup sights. Granted I can't use the iron sights when the magnifier is in use but if I flip it out of the way, the iron sights are good to go.
@@JackRR15 Yes, you can mount it no problem. But when you do it that way, the eye relief is awful. Meaning the magnifier is too far forward on the rail, to make room for the rear backup sight. That forces you to hold the rifle in an unnatural way to get close enough to see a complete image. This is a huge issue considering the magnifier is a primary sight and is compromised to accommodate a backup. If this optic was properly designed, with longer eye relief, this wouldn't be a problem.
@@darikdatta In my case my eye relief is right within spec so I don't know for your situation there. I agree I guess it depends on type of firearm but for my AR180 style gun it works well
As a lefty, I'm surprised you make the VMX-3T configured like that with the button. I would have thought right handed shooters would want the optic to flip out of their way. As a lefty I use it as configured from factory.
For days I am trying to find out if they are officially water proof. Basically all shops say that they are water proof and nitrogen purged. However, your website doesn’t state anything regarding water. Can you shed some light on this?
You mentioned that the Micro 3x is compatible with all Vortex Red Dots, as long as they're on the same height. I cannot find any information if it will match the height of Crossfire Red Dot mouted on stock high-mount. Can you please confirm?
Because then why would you buy the new, more expensive one? I just ordered a vmx today you can just turn the mount around and still easily press the button with your other hand.
What I don’t get is how is it even possible for the micro to have more eye relief and at the same time keeping the same FOV (38.2 feet at 100 yards)? 🤯
Thanks for the video comparing the two magnifiers much appreciated. But I was wondering what would be the best setup for my rifle. A Ruger AR 556 with the fixed front sight. I'd like to keep my rear iron sight but not sure which of the two would work best for me. Input from Vortex or other gun owners opinions would be appreciated alot.
Hey Dylan - The Micro3x would be a great choice as it will allow flipping to either left or right and does not require a button to be pushed to engage/disengage the magnifier.
@@VortexOpticsUSA That's great! You need to educate your distributors. I would strongly recommend including this answer to the product page. Others may have the same question and (at least that is the case of the Polish distributor) local distributors can still recommend the older magnifier version, which is far away from OK. Even though there is a lot of complains about the Micro3X quick release. Anyway your answer is very helpful. Thanks
So what I'm failing to understand is why in the world did you go to a 22 mm objective lens when most of your optics like the strike fire 2 which is what I have is 30 mm and it's already small in my opinion this is clearly the better option for magnifier but I'm looking at the VMX due to it having a more usable objective lense size
Also both of the magnifiers have a 37mm mounting height?? Meanwhile my strikefire 2 is 40mm. Super annoying that it wouldn't be perfectly centered and would be noticeable but at the same time not worth shimming. I just don't understand your guys thought process on these measurements
I'm running a Trijicon MRO on my BCM Recce 11.5 and it is a perfect red dot. Until I dropped the VMX-3T behind it. Now the dot is more like a long slash. From what I discovered, I'm thinking that I may have an astigmatism. Anything I can do to help that? Is the Micro3x more forgiving in that respect? I saw a couple reviews and on one, it stated that the VMX-3T is one of the best to combat that. I'm about ready to swap the Trijicon for an Eotech EXPS2-0 if I can't get this working. I have the Eotech 512 on my Daniel Defense DDM4-V7 and I dropped the VMX-3T behind that without issue. Any advice would help. Thanks. P.S. It's hell to get old lol
Hey Greg - different red dot and different optics in general will effect everybody's eyes differently. I would highly recommend checking them out at dealer before purchasing to see if any will help with your astigmatism.
From what I understand you're better off with a Holo for astigmatism, so either an eotech or the vortex Huey - it's not because of the magnifier, as prisms are known to help astigmatism.
@@VortexOpticsUSA That doesn't help us that already have the vmx-3t, very disappointed there's not an option for right side flip. What were you thinking? Why would i buy a new magnifier when i have a perfectly capable one that has a design flaw? Money Grabbers. I'll buy a Sig before i spend money on ANOTHER Vortex. How about just making a new right flip mount? I'll buy one.
@@KeithClinton theyre money grabbers because they arent making new mounts for an outdated magnifier that only a very select few give a shit about anyway? Cool story manchild.
@@VortexOpticsUSA Incorrect - I have 1x Spitfires on several of my firearms (awesome by the way) and have both the VMX-3T and Micro3xs' which do work well together. Turn the Prism diopter fully clockwise and the magnifier diopter fully counter clockwise. You can then adjust the Prism diopter to taste. Have always wondered why Vortex says they are not compatible. Again, your prism sight and mag are a fantastic combination. I can't take credit for this, I had found a youtube video by Douglas Thompson who explains it fully.
I don't know how you guys made good magnifiers but then said fuck it on the mounts 🤣 left side flip on the original 3x (which literally only lefties would ever want) and a qd lever that gets in the way of a Charging handle on the micro -_- nicely done lol
Does the use of the magnifier change any hold-overs on the red dot? Let’s say, I know to hold on a target’s neck at 400 yards with plain red dot for a chest hit, will the magnifier change that, so I need to hold on his head (or nipple-line) for a chest hit with the magnifier engaged?
@@VortexOpticsUSA Thank you for that, I just purchased the VMX 3T so I'll stick with it for a while but when I need another magnifier, I'll go with the Micro 3X
@@superbroadcaster Make sure you check the tightness of the mounting screw before use because it will loosen up after 2 range visits. They won't admit it but it's a shit design.
I would stay away from the Vortex 3T. The mounting system with that one screw loosens up after a little use. It's a faulty design. Period. Mines fallen off twice just from gun vibration (None really from my DDm4) being careful not to even knock it a little. The "Claimed" eye relief is bull too. If your head is 1/8th out of spot in any direction the sight goes dark. Focuser is pretty useless too. Wish I never bought the piece of shit to be honest. It's amazing how you can get a really nice pair of binoculars for 300 hundred bucks but because this goes on a gun you pay the same when it compares to a 50 dollar set of binocs. They should give some type of second locking nut to go along top the original.
Hey Roger - we appreciate the feedback! Just like all of our optics, our mounts are also covered by the VIP Warranty. Let's get that unit in and we can see what's going on with it.
Got mine yesterday. I have to admit, its tough spending this kind of money on a magnifier when you could almost buy a Strike Eagle. I have one on another rifle and think its a great value. Just had to try the Holo.-mag. experience. Ya never know what your'e missing. I'm about to find out. Oh, please don't make me wish I bought a Strike Eagle.
@@dbchillin7747 I didn’t like it. Returned it. I’m sticking with 1-6, 8 & 10 power scopes. For the money you spend on this and a Holosun 512c you can buy an Atibal 1-10x scope with 34mm tube. It’s very similar to the trijicon 1-10x the marines use. Even the retical is the same. The big difference is it’s not a forged aluminum tube, and no integral mount. Yes, I know it’s not the same as the 2500 dollar trijicon but for a regular dude that will never be a true operator, it’s damn good for $687.
He spoke to me like I was 6... and that’s exactly what I needed.
Lmao! :)
He's probably a Marine. KISS.
I agree! 😀
😂
The Micro3x has been the perfect enhancement for my Eotech XPS3, the holosight comes through exceptionally clear and the QD mount attaches solidly. I may end up never taking this combo off my Kel-Tec RDB.
you should take it off and put it on something better
Great comparison. Will be looking to add one behind the gen 2 Huey when I pick one up for a future build
Have you gotten your Huey yet? Mine is back ordered until June and I ordered a month ago.
Just got the micro for my gen II huey. Love the set up. 👍
I took a look through both of these magnifiers at a store and was shocked that the cheaper VMX-3T looked better. Sharper and brighter image. The store clerk said it is because of my eyes and all our eyes are different which is why I preferred the VMX-3T. The lesson? Go look through these optics before you buy. I’m getting the VMX-3T.
That is a relief and good to hear because I just bought the VMX -3T not the micro. So the old one looks better that is great news. Thanks I was just looking at the old one and its very clear. I have not seen the micro but I will take your word for it. plus .2 and . 6 is hardly any noticeable difference in eye relief lets get real. 4 tenths of a inch. I doubt I could tell much difference.
A demonstration showing the actual magnifier and a red dot would be helpful...
Sounds like you need a picture book. Words are HARD!
@@rustymacshackleford6276 that was mean. Funny, but mean lol.
@@rustymacshackleford6276 well, we did come to UA-cam for a video.. might be helpful to… idk.. see something? 🤔
@@rustymacshackleford6276 UA-cam is for videos, not audible books.
Too bad you can't share photos in the comments. Santa was nice enough to bring me a micro 3x this xmas to go with my huey gen II and the site pic is crisp and clean. Sent a pic to my buddy after install.
I bought a vortex monocular once… it was so nice my mom stole it for birdwatching. Excited to put the vmx3t red dot and magnifier on my gun soon where I know my mom won’t touch it.
That MOA explanation really cleared up a lot of misinformation for me about red dot magnification.
Great to hear, Teddy! Appreciate you tuning in and if you have any questions, please let us know!
I'm still kind of confused. Can you sum it up like I'm a toddler? Lol
@@alexstarling3229 Certainly! What can we help explain, Alex?
@@alexstarling3229 It's simple, if only the red dot would be magnified, then you are correct. But when you take into account that everything else also becomes bigger, then your red dot compared to the target is still 2 MOA you klnow. because both the dot AND the target are now X3. So at the end, the net result is null.
Info from Focus Camera Website
Vortex VMX-3T Reflex Sight Magnifier
Magnification: 3.0x
Main Tube Diameter: 30 mm
Eye Relief: 3.25"
Field of View: 38.2 ft (11.6 m) at 100 yd
Length: 4.3" (11 cm)
Weight: 11.9 oz (337 g)
Info from Vortex Optics Website
Vortex VMX-3T Reflex Sight Magnifier
Magnification NA
Eye Relief 2.2 inches
Field of View 38.2 feet/100 yards
Length 4.3 inches
Weight 11.9 oz
Odd that other sites have different specs posted for the same magnifiers.
I've been running a VMX-3T for a while now and like it. However, I've discovered that rifle weight has become an issue for me.
I'm thinking the Micro 3x will help save weight some, but is also easier to remove quickly if that's what I need
Dammit I’ve been pounding the I internet mainly UA-cam and I think I’ve come to the conclusion of going with Vortex red dot and magnifier! This stuff is fun!
That is awesome - we appreciate you checking out our optics, Rich! If you have any questions, please let us know.
They make good stuff. I've been using their binoculars for years, no complaints.
@@richardcranium9058 We appreciate the support, Richard!
Love the Micro on my Sig MPX 👍🏼
Needs more eye relief. As it is now, you have to mount it where your backup iron sight should go. It should have more eye relief or a cantilevered mount so it can be used when mounted in front of a backup iron sight.
I have no issues mounting my VMT-3T with my Magpull MBUS backup sights. Granted I can't use the iron sights when the magnifier is in use but if I flip it out of the way, the iron sights are good to go.
@@JackRR15 Yes, you can mount it no problem.
But when you do it that way, the eye relief is awful.
Meaning the magnifier is too far forward on the rail, to make room for the rear backup sight.
That forces you to hold the rifle in an unnatural way to get close enough to see a complete image.
This is a huge issue considering the magnifier is a primary sight and is compromised to accommodate a backup.
If this optic was properly designed, with longer eye relief, this wouldn't be a problem.
@@darikdatta In my case my eye relief is right within spec so I don't know for your situation there. I agree I guess it depends on type of firearm but for my AR180 style gun it works well
@@JackRR15 What is the "spec" for eye relief you are using?
@@darikdatta The official spec is 2.2 inches of eye relief. My eye is right around that the way I have my optic set up
As a lefty, I'm surprised you make the VMX-3T configured like that with the button. I would have thought right handed shooters would want the optic to flip out of their way. As a lefty I use it as configured from factory.
I need that micro3x in my life!
For days I am trying to find out if they are officially water proof. Basically all shops say that they are water proof and nitrogen purged. However, your website doesn’t state anything regarding water. Can you shed some light on this?
@Vortex. Please make a 1-4x20.
You mentioned that the Micro 3x is compatible with all Vortex Red Dots, as long as they're on the same height. I cannot find any information if it will match the height of Crossfire Red Dot mouted on stock high-mount. Can you please confirm?
Yes as long as the Crossfire is using the high mount they will line up!
why don't you make a reversible mount for the VMX-3T so we can flip to the right?
Because then why would you buy the new, more expensive one? I just ordered a vmx today you can just turn the mount around and still easily press the button with your other hand.
What I don’t get is how is it even possible for the micro to have more eye relief and at the same time keeping the same FOV (38.2 feet at 100 yards)? 🤯
Thanks for the video comparing the two magnifiers much appreciated. But I was wondering what would be the best setup for my rifle. A Ruger AR 556 with the fixed front sight. I'd like to keep my rear iron sight but not sure which of the two would work best for me. Input from Vortex or other gun owners opinions would be appreciated alot.
Hey Dylan - The Micro3x would be a great choice as it will allow flipping to either left or right and does not require a button to be pushed to engage/disengage the magnifier.
@@VortexOpticsUSA thanks for the reply I really appreciate it!!! I'll be looking for the best deal for the micro 3x.
@@dylanmurphy2909 if you haven’t gotten one, I just got one for 200.
Hi,
Will micro 3x line up with Vortex Sparc Solar on 1/3 co-witness mount? (High AR mount).
Great review.
Hi. Does Micro3X match with StrikeFire II? The StrikeFire II works properly with a previous magnifier version, but what about the newer one?
Absolutely! The Micro 3x would work wonderfully with the Strikefire II.
@@VortexOpticsUSA That's great! You need to educate your distributors. I would strongly recommend including this answer to the product page. Others may have the same question and (at least that is the case of the Polish distributor) local distributors can still recommend the older magnifier version, which is far away from OK. Even though there is a lot of complains about the Micro3X quick release. Anyway your answer is very helpful. Thanks
@@maruchagajowy8110 You bet! If you ever have any questions please don't hesitate to reach out!
It would be nice if micro 3x would come as a gen2 with a more popular mounting, that would let ppl use the unity riser FTC
We'll certainly pass the feedback along - we appreciate it!
wanted the juliet 3 magnifier to match up with my romeo red dot but the vortex magnifier will have to do bc i couldn’t find the juliet anywhere online
The "Juliet Micro 3x" isn't sold as a stand alone yet. So the "Vortex Micro 3x" is the best alternative. The Vortex is better built though.
Et' tu Brute?
So what I'm failing to understand is why in the world did you go to a 22 mm objective lens when most of your optics like the strike fire 2 which is what I have is 30 mm and it's already small in my opinion this is clearly the better option for magnifier but I'm looking at the VMX due to it having a more usable objective lense size
Also both of the magnifiers have a 37mm mounting height?? Meanwhile my strikefire 2 is 40mm. Super annoying that it wouldn't be perfectly centered and would be noticeable but at the same time not worth shimming. I just don't understand your guys thought process on these measurements
Does not the included shim plate raise the optic to 40mm?@@gunsandmachinesenthusiast
Will the magnifer work with a Aimpoint Micro T1, 1.7" height Mount ? Thank You
Hey there! The Micro3X shares the same footprint as an Aimpoint T1/T2!
How does one get it to flip to the left ? The micro magnifier.
You would simply remove the optic from the mount and flip the mount so it opens to the left. You can then reinstall the optic.
I'm running a Trijicon MRO on my BCM Recce 11.5 and it is a perfect red dot. Until I dropped the VMX-3T behind it. Now the dot is more like a long slash. From what I discovered, I'm thinking that I may have an astigmatism. Anything I can do to help that? Is the Micro3x more forgiving in that respect? I saw a couple reviews and on one, it stated that the VMX-3T is one of the best to combat that. I'm about ready to swap the Trijicon for an Eotech EXPS2-0 if I can't get this working. I have the Eotech 512 on my Daniel Defense DDM4-V7 and I dropped the VMX-3T behind that without issue. Any advice would help. Thanks. P.S. It's hell to get old lol
Hey Greg - different red dot and different optics in general will effect everybody's eyes differently. I would highly recommend checking them out at dealer before purchasing to see if any will help with your astigmatism.
That's normal. The only red dots that don't do this, currently are the T2 and comp M5. Not sure about the trijicon MRO HD.
so which one is better to take? 3 x or 3 t I also have astigmatism
From what I understand you're better off with a Holo for astigmatism, so either an eotech or the vortex Huey - it's not because of the magnifier, as prisms are known to help astigmatism.
Give us a right handed mourn for the vmxt3. Flipping the mount to the other side is awkward because the button is on the other side
You may want to take a look at our Micro 3x. It can be setup to flip either direction and now has no button to push at all!
@@VortexOpticsUSA That doesn't help us that already have the vmx-3t, very disappointed there's not an option for right side flip. What were you thinking? Why would i buy a new magnifier when i have a perfectly capable one that has a design flaw? Money Grabbers. I'll buy a Sig before i spend money on ANOTHER Vortex. How about just making a new right flip mount? I'll buy one.
@@KeithClinton theyre money grabbers because they arent making new mounts for an outdated magnifier that only a very select few give a shit about anyway? Cool story manchild.
There is an option, the 3x micro. The eotech g33, trijicon HD, Samson, etc.
I assume this Micro 3x should pair nicely with my Sparc Solar?
It sure would, my friend!
@@VortexOpticsUSA beautiful!
I don’t think the height for the micro was covered
Curious if it’s absolute co or lower 1/3rds
It will have a shim included in the box, so you can mount it at either 1/3 lower co-witness or absolute co-witness.
I have a Vortex 1x Prism. Would one of these work with that?
Great question - no, they would not pair up together as both your prism scope and the magnifier use prism systems and both are subject to eye relief.
@@VortexOpticsUSA Incorrect - I have 1x Spitfires on several of my firearms (awesome by the way) and have both the VMX-3T and Micro3xs' which do work well together. Turn the Prism diopter fully clockwise and the magnifier diopter fully counter clockwise. You can then adjust the Prism diopter to taste. Have always wondered why Vortex says they are not compatible. Again, your prism sight and mag are a fantastic combination. I can't take credit for this, I had found a youtube video by Douglas Thompson who explains it fully.
Why would you make it flip left?
Only of you're a left handed shooter. You can flip it around.
Are the magnifier mounts interchangeable?
They are not interchangeable.
may use this magnifier with rifle caleber 375hh? big recoil
Yes. All the way up to .50.
Did you guys fix the alignment issues of the mount for the Micro3X? I have heard a lot people having issues!
The Micro3x has adjustment for both up/down and left/right to help center the image into the magnifier view.
So, umm, no 😂
@@juanoncello86 What issues are you speaking of?I just got the micro
I've had the micro about a year, it works great. What issues were they having?
What’s the length of each optic?
The VMX-3T is 4.3" inches long and the Micro3x is 2.9" inches long.
I don't know how you guys made good magnifiers but then said fuck it on the mounts 🤣 left side flip on the original 3x (which literally only lefties would ever want) and a qd lever that gets in the way of a Charging handle on the micro -_- nicely done lol
Does the use of the magnifier change any hold-overs on the red dot? Let’s say, I know to hold on a target’s neck at 400 yards with plain red dot for a chest hit, will the magnifier change that, so I need to hold on his head (or nipple-line) for a chest hit with the magnifier engaged?
No... the magnifying optic doesn't change the ballistics
Only adjusting your actual sight will change point of aim to point of impact.
Make a 1-8 viper pst!
1-10x while they are at it
I love the VMX 3T, just wish it would flip to the right with the button facing you
Edit: adding the T
Check out the Micro 3x Magnifier as it can be setup to flip in either direction and doesn't require the press of a button.
@@VortexOpticsUSA Thank you for that, I just purchased the VMX 3T so I'll stick with it for a while but when I need another magnifier, I'll go with the Micro 3X
@@superbroadcaster Make sure you check the tightness of the mounting screw before use because it will loosen up after 2 range visits. They won't admit it but it's a shit design.
I want that gen 2 Huey
I would stay away from the Vortex 3T. The mounting system with that one screw loosens up after a little use. It's a faulty design. Period. Mines fallen off twice just from gun vibration (None really from my DDm4) being careful not to even knock it a little. The "Claimed" eye relief is bull too. If your head is 1/8th out of spot in any direction the sight goes dark. Focuser is pretty useless too. Wish I never bought the piece of shit to be honest. It's amazing how you can get a really nice pair of binoculars for 300 hundred bucks but because this goes on a gun you pay the same when it compares to a 50 dollar set of binocs. They should give some type of second locking nut to go along top the original.
Hey Roger - we appreciate the feedback! Just like all of our optics, our mounts are also covered by the VIP Warranty. Let's get that unit in and we can see what's going on with it.
Have you heard of blue loctite?
@@miltechmoto You don't locktite this kind of mount Einstein.
@@RogerBrenon why not?
All I care about is eye relief
Hey there - the Micro3x has an eye relief of 2.64" inches and the VMX-3T has an eye relief of 2.2" inches.
Thank you for this
Vmx 3t is almost $200 cheaper than the micro 3x
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Awesome, I want one! Can I have one? Lol
Thanks for the video guys
I cant believe sooooo many people were stupid enough for him to have to explain 🤭🐓🐓👻
Some people on here need illustrations. God the gun community is retarded 🤦
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I heard the micro has worse eye relief then vortex states
I’ve had one for about a year it’s pretty close to accurate. I know personally for me it’s comfortable but everyone is different.
vortex < holosun
Got mine yesterday. I have to admit, its tough spending this kind of money on a magnifier when you could almost buy a Strike Eagle. I have one on another rifle and think its a great value. Just had to try the Holo.-mag. experience. Ya never know what your'e missing. I'm about to find out. Oh, please don't make me wish I bought a Strike Eagle.
How do you feel about your purchase?
@@dbchillin7747 I didn’t like it. Returned it. I’m sticking with 1-6, 8 & 10 power scopes. For the money you spend on this and a Holosun 512c you can buy an Atibal 1-10x scope with 34mm tube. It’s very similar to the trijicon 1-10x the marines use. Even the retical is the same. The big difference is it’s not a forged aluminum tube, and no integral mount. Yes, I know it’s not the same as the 2500 dollar trijicon but for a regular dude that will never be a true operator, it’s damn good for $687.