This was MASSIVELY helpful. I have a Mini Cooper d R56 2009. Uses exactly the same egr valve and for the life of me I couldn't find out what tool I needed to remove that damn clip!!! You are a total star!! Thanks to you I'll now be able to replace it. Thank you buddy... Superb video 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
One day someone will build a car and in the advert it will say, easy to maintain, The EGR, air filter, fuel filter even the headlight bulbs are all easily accessible, just like they used to be in the 1970s, the person who designs it will be in to home maintenance of their own car !
I could not recommend your comment more! It is exactly what I am thinking. I honestly think that the car manufacturers do this on purpose, so ordinary folk cannot do their own maintenance and have to go the stealership. Do not get me started on how they design/make the cars.
I've done an oil change today and had a look at what i'm working with to tackle the egr tomorrow. working on a 207, i only wish i had as much space as you do! wish me luck!
Thanks man! It was really helpful, I wouldn't try to do this before I have watched this. Now I can tell that those three screw holding the electronic part are really hard to unscrew.. It likes to get broken. And also it is true that you can get out the EGR without getting out air filter can, even more! I managed to do it without removing fuel wires from fuel filter and without removing fuel filter.
Hi Damian, thanks for the heads up. You could potentially get the EGR valve out without removing the different filters, but it is more difficult. Depending on the model, it is fairly tight space.
@@moremolecules wish it was that easy on a 208, the ridged cooling pipes are right in the way of the egr bolts, and access to the the top of the filters is nigh on impossable
Hi Tip disconnect the negative battery terminal first, and do not use aluminium foil to cover electrical terminals, try a small plastic bag- simple Heath and Safety. Good video thank you
I have posted a new (i.e. updated) video that covers pretty much everything to do with cleaning/dismantling the EGR valve in 1.6HDi/TDCi engines. You can view it here: ua-cam.com/video/wTQtVJEqGXI/v-deo.html
Massively helpful is their any way you could do a video on a Peugeot partner 1.6 hdi oil pressure switch and it where about cart seem to find it anywhere
I was in general thinking of short videos of showing where the different bits are, but will have to see. The oil pressure switch is at the front of the engine on the block, left from the turbo. It is pretty tight there, so you may need to remove the front exhaust with the shields in order to get access to it. It is just above the oil dipstick, or where the dipstick tube goes inside the block of the engine, just above that.
Hi after replacement of the EGR valve is it mandatory to reset the errors with the diagnostic software? What about the recalibration? I'm going to put an Valeo valve like the original.
Yes, with a new EGR you may want to do the recalibration. Otherwise the ECU might not know where the upper and lower positions are. Faults are likely to reset on their own, but it will not correct itself without recalibration.
Hi Algarve and thank you for the very good question! You are absolutely correct, it is caused by the air filter box rubbing on the EGR valve. I have addressed this and explained how it happens here: ua-cam.com/video/qBNSyRF79VQ/v-deo.html It is a very common issue and I have seen it properly digging a hole, but it is rather difficult to say how much of a problem it is. Some of the electronic bits and pieces are on the EGR cap (for some of the designs as there are different designs), so the airbox can potentially distort or damage some of the electronics, so it could make the EGR to stop working. I do not think it makes a difference to the airflow/gasses, as the top does not get involved in the recirculation of air/exhaust gasses. All in all, my humble opinion is that it should be amended and not let the airbox create a hole in the EGR valve. All the best.
@@moremolecules Thanks for your help. Very much appreciated. I'm going to put some tape over the hole and address the air filter housing problem since the valve seems to be working OK.
@@ktcpools If it works OK, i.e. tested with PP2000/diagbox/Lexia, then it is probably ok to put tape on top. Otherwise it is a bit difficult to know if it is working ok or not, it could be stuck on closed position.
Updated version of this is here: ua-cam.com/video/wTQtVJEqGXI/v-deo.html and the different plugs here ua-cam.com/video/-ZqiyCFg0sI/v-deo.html One of the plugs is for the fuel heater and the other for the water in diesel sensor.
Hi Vamoose, that would be the crankcase breather and it is expected to be oily. Make sure the rubber o-ring is intact and if you can look straight into the crankcase breather there would be a spring, that should be also intact. Better still, replace the rubber o-ring. I have a video explaining how to do it and the dimensions of the new o-ring here: ua-cam.com/video/ziKR6M6ToSg/v-deo.html
Good video thanks, but in my 307 it's not to easy to remove that egr valve front glass It going In to engine chamber, and the place is limited, but of course it is possible to do :)
Hi Paul, at the time there was not a single video how to remove the EGR valve, so I thought to make more space for myself. I guess it is possible without removing the fuel filter + bracket.
That would be the abs sensor and depending on what model you have it is generally on the wheel hub. The wheel hib has a magnetic strip nd the sensor measure from this.
Hi Lawrence, I think you can use the diagbox to delete EGR valve, but I have not looked into that. There may need to be an ECU update in order to account for the deleted EGR
Placing a blank in my daughters 2009, 1.4, diesel 8valve did not bring on the engine light however doing the same to my 2005, 2.0 litre C max did.? Much improved performance with the blank in.
Hi Lawrence, the throttle body or doseur is right after the intercooler on the right. If you follow the air intake pipe past the turbo the two pipes go into the doseur.
Hi Andrew, if you want to put a blanking plate it will be instead of the current one with the hole inside, i.e. between the EGR and the block of the engine. Hope this helps.
Hi het, do not quote me on this, but I thin kthe 1.9 dw8 is a vacuum driven/operated EGR, way different than the 1.6hdi, so it should be possible to block it with a plate. I also do not think it will throw EML on the dashboard.
@@moremolecules yes sounds great. But just exactly which hose / pipe should i block? If i look @ a picture of the valve on google it shows a total of 3 outlets on the valve. Which one should i block?
It is not too difficult, although very hard to reach at the back of the engine. I have a video of replacing mine: ua-cam.com/video/qefjCCHx5t0/v-deo.html
I can’t get the air cleaner assembly out from behind the motor. The assembly hits the EGR and there is no way I can lift it any higher. I have taken the battery out beforehand but that was a bit premature. I have taken the plastic plenum out from above it but no luck. Any ideas?
That would depend on the model of car you have. Some are more difficult than others to get the air filter assembly out. I suspect a few of the plastic covers need removing.
Hi there great in depth video. How long in real time would it take me to fit a new EGR Valve, i am very mechanically minded and just wanted to save garage labour prices if i can and also how much roughly is a new EGR Valve 16HDI. 09 Plate Partner Van. Thanks.
Hi Steven, good question actually. If you had the clic-r-type tool, if of course yours is that type, I would say max 2h for the whole thing. In reality it will be probably less, it is a bit fiddly here and there. If I were you I would buy an EGR valve by Hella. I bought theirs and have not looked back since. I am not too sure about the 09 Partner, it may be slightly different than mine, but price-wise is ~£150-160. It is a bit steep, but it is a good quality valve. I bought a Haas one, which had a manufacturer's fault, one of the mechanical parts was sticking, thus I can only recommend the one I know works. Also, you would need Digabox/PP2000 in order to re-code the new EGR valve. If you had the software working, then it is another 15-20min to tell the ECU that there is a replacement EGR valve. It is not that much work, but it is fiddly to find the actual menu to reconfigure the replacement EGR.
@@moremolecules Hi thanks for that info. 240,000 miles my vans done and has no power at low revs and a bit hairy on slip roads, does a faulty EGR Valve affect the turbo working as it should?.
@@stevensmith277 It could potentially, but at this mileage I would have a more careful look at the turbo. If you have the diagbox/PP2000 I would check the boost values. If the EGR is faulty, there should be an error in the logs associated with the EGR. I would also look at the intercooler and potentially clean/drain it. With this mileage the intercooler efficiency will be reduced due to oil build up from the PCV valve and/or small leaks from the turbo seals (compressor side).
@@moremolecules Thankyou so much, i must be really careful now then as my local garage says turbo is ok but there is an EGR Valve fault and then maybe theyll start adding other things into the equation. Runs lovely at 60/70 mph apart from the lack of power at low revs. £125 + labour so not sure whether to go with it as i dont really have the time anymore tinkering and getting dirty. Fault lights out so at least ill get my MOT due now. Your advice has helped 100% and i appreciate all you have said, im going to let them do the work and if no change i can question it. Ill be in touch, Regards.
@@stevensmith277 No worries. For the EGR valve in a garage should not take more than 2h, including the re-coding. Good luck and let me know if something comes up.
Hi christy4, I am really sorry that this was the wrong size for your engine. To be honest I do not really know why this would be so. The parts that I put in the description are parts that I have tested myself on my car and they fit. I suspect your engine is the same? Either the seller has sent something else or your engine is some modification that I have not seen before. This clamp should fit all 1.6HDi and TDCis. Does it say 1628 3J?
No no jeez you’ve been a great help with your videos thanks a million it’s just I’ve had to leave it off for now as I needed the car. I’ll buy another on eBay. Mines a Citroen C5 with the same engine. Maybe the join’s smaller although I doubt it or maybe amazon sent the wrong one. It had that number on the packet. I’ll see if I can put a proper one on by feel as I found the air filter set up on those mountings a bit of a nightmare. I’m going to try the wider o ring you recommend as I get a lot of oil onto the engine from it. In no way was I blaming you and as I say you’ve been a great help. I’m doing the timing belt tomorrow 😱😨🤢
Thank you, cleaned inlet manifold/throttle body and sensors all of which were gummed up. Tool your advice and checked egr valve and cleaned further.i went for a few drives and thought it was solved - 40 mile later it thee same codes. I have now blanked valve and to be honest the van is a lot better especially on first start up of the day. Have you any further videos planned ? Lawrence
Hi Lawrence, I meant to check if the pin slides ok in the channel of the EGR valve. Blocking the EGR valve might have some unintended consequences, among other things it may overall increase fuel consumption when driving on say a motorway. I think there was a really good video in my liked videos, where this was explained in fairly good detail. I have a few videos, but will have to do them one by one, too many other things going on at the moment. Main one that is coming is proper longer-term crankcase pressure and some other oil catch can modifications. I will have to do the coolant fairly soon, so this will be coming as well.
It was a while ago, but as far as I remember it was 8mm 2 bolts, although I might be wrong, should have written this in the description. About the plenty of room, that is quite true. My engine is 1.6hdi and the engine bay is designed for a 2.0hdi, hence the room space. I am quite lucky in that respect.
Hi mikeyp, I still have the old clic-r type clamp and can measure it if you want, but the new one I put on and it was the perfect size is part number: 16283J. Let me know and I can measure the original one.
@@moremolecules hey not a problem. I can see you replaced it. Can you use wire cutters instead? Trying to not buy a tool I'll never use again. Ps thanks for your video and I'm going to give it a go in cleaning mine. Mines only 2 years old and it's sticking already. I've got some cleaner and I'll use your method on your other vid. Ps thanks for replying. I might use a jubilee clip or a cable tie. Does the egr get hot? Mike
@@mikey2811 Not too sure if wire cutters would work, it is pretty solid metal bracket, but it might work. I only used the tool once and as you said pretty wasted money. I bought a new EGR and it was sticking on the 6th month, cleaned it, still sticking at ~30%. I think the channel was not entirely smooth and could not slide back as easy. If you clean yours and it is still sticking, check if the channel is clean and the pin inside can slide just by shaking it. That is what happens in the car. I think you may have some success with a combination of wire cutters and a screwdriver. I think I have seen people unclipping it with a screwdriver, but it did not budge when I tried it. Not too sure if a jubilee clip or a cable tie will work, as there are lips on the EGR intercooler and the EGR itself. The clip holds or goes over both lips. The EGR valve gets pretty hot, hot gasses pass through. Hope this helps, but let me know, I can measure the tool/original clip.
@@moremolecules thank you so much for your help. I'll have a look as when it was replaced before I'm not sure what was used to seal it back. Thanks again. Great vid
Thank you, I’ve pretty much give up with this valve. Cleaned twice thoroughly, checked solenoid and all working, delete codes and mil back on. There are other codes showing but the code relevant to this will not go. I intend to cap this, only drawback is re map, as this can only do a stage 1 which is basically a tune up and delete egr, the cost is £150 quite shocking for a box to be unticked. On a lighter note, how about a rocker cover gasket replacement ? Seems to be a common problem. By the way the clip on the egr/cooler, I am sure you highlighted an alternative one that did not require the clic tool, if I am correct have you the part number or further info. Thank you, will update you on the re map and closure of the valve.
Hi Lawrence, you may want to check if the channel that holds the pin (for the valve itself) is smooth and the pins slides smoothly. I had a brand new EGR valve and was consistently returning an error, e.g. stuck at ~35%. The grooved channel was not drilled quite smoothly and sometimes the pin could not get past an imperfection. The alternative that does not require the clic tool is 16283J.
look i closed my egr valve and i am getting a P0299 fault code. do you have a obd2 reader? if so .... could you close your egr valve and check if you are also getting this message... tnx bro
EGR stands for Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve. It simply re-routes some of the exhaust gasses to go back into the engine instead of fresh air to reduce the temperature of combustion within the cylinders and hence a reduction in NOx gasses and sometimes reduces pumping losses from an engine during engine braking.
Thinking of selling our Berlingo. It started to cause problems and it only has like 76000km. Yesterday the AdBlue pump died, cost ca. 800EUR. Not willing to pay so much I had it bypassed via a software tune up. The guy hooked up the computer and said the EGR valve is jammed too.... Common guys, WTF is this?
There could be a lot of symptoms, ranging from rough idling to no power or limp mode if it has broken in an open state. Mine was broken in a closed state, so I did not have any symptoms while driving the car. There were several codes when read with odb2 scanner. Nevertheless, the car will produce more NO2, as no exhaust gas can go back into the engine and reduce the temperature of burning of diesel. Hope this helps.
@@Underpressure11 Potentially yes, but depends on how you define healthier though. The higher temperature in the chamber is not too good thing and who knows how it impacts the engine overall. It could be just emissions, but I suspect it will somewhat impact on the consumption as to run without an EGR it needs new ECU map.
Great video thanks, my c4 GP has warning lights saying handbrake faulty esp/ fault, and have found that it’s the egr valve which had caused this !?!? Strange I know. Do you know any reason this would be? Hope you can help ? Many thanks
Hi mad monk, that is a first for me, unless there is not a separate warning light for an EGR fault and you get some sort of generic handbrake/esp fault. I do not think there is a specific light for an EGR fault, so it could be that this combination gives you an indication that something is wrong, e.g. EGR.
My anti freeze / water light comes in and flashing stop on start up for gd 10 mins. Plugged in EGR blocked Also smokes really bad on start up. Once got it’s fine. Blanking egr valve of tomorrow. Hopefully it goes to plan.
Hmm, I bought my car back in 2011, so the general consensus at the time was that they are fisrt of all better engines and second produced a lot less CO2. Now, they are a lot more economical than petrol engines and of course in order to reduce harmful pollutants you need the, as you have put it, DPF, EGR, AdBlue Eolys, etc. Why do you think trucks, most of them, are still diesels? Because they are crappy oil burners...
Really?! Cable ties? Tin Foil? I bet you're one of those people who sit in the Pub talking about how fantastic 'my car' is, with a captive audience, until they realise you are talking about a run of the mill Citroen and they leave you to it and start talking among themselves about football, etc. My C4 1.6 Hdi gets oil changed/serviced every 3000 miles, washed every couple of weeks and the engine bay gets hit with a jet wash as, and when, I think to do it. I tend to talk about art and literature.
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This was MASSIVELY helpful. I have a Mini Cooper d R56 2009. Uses exactly the same egr valve and for the life of me I couldn't find out what tool I needed to remove that damn clip!!! You are a total star!! Thanks to you I'll now be able to replace it. Thank you buddy... Superb video 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I have 2007 diesel mini, changed egr few years ago but what about if i blank it to reduce soot build up
One day someone will build a car and in the advert it will say, easy to maintain, The EGR, air filter, fuel filter even the headlight bulbs are all easily accessible, just like they used to be in the 1970s, the person who designs it will be in to home maintenance of their own car !
I could not recommend your comment more! It is exactly what I am thinking. I honestly think that the car manufacturers do this on purpose, so ordinary folk cannot do their own maintenance and have to go the stealership. Do not get me started on how they design/make the cars.
@@moremolecules It's the bloody french, these are England only variants.......
@@nigelmitchell351 Ahh, yes, you mean inferior design/parts/build. Could be yes😁
@@moremolecules Just designed to extra awkward for the British market....
@@nigelmitchell351 Well, yes. I would not be surprised if that was the case😁
you my friend are a master cheers from ireland as my granny used to say theres a right way and a wrong way this is the right way cheers lad :)
I've done an oil change today and had a look at what i'm working with to tackle the egr tomorrow. working on a 207, i only wish i had as much space as you do! wish me luck!
Hi Artie, yes, all the best of luck. I know, mine has quite a bit of space. This video might be a bit better ua-cam.com/video/wTQtVJEqGXI/v-deo.html
@@moremolecules Thanks, i've already watched it, will follow it tomorrow!
Thanks man! It was really helpful, I wouldn't try to do this before I have watched this. Now I can tell that those three screw holding the electronic part are really hard to unscrew.. It likes to get broken. And also it is true that you can get out the EGR without getting out air filter can, even more! I managed to do it without removing fuel wires from fuel filter and without removing fuel filter.
Hi Damian, thanks for the heads up. You could potentially get the EGR valve out without removing the different filters, but it is more difficult. Depending on the model, it is fairly tight space.
@@moremolecules wish it was that easy on a 208, the ridged cooling pipes are right in the way of the egr bolts, and access to the the top of the filters is nigh on impossable
@@sheledmikymo I agree, my 1.6hdi is designed to fit the 2L model, so there is plenty of space to work on.
Hi Tip disconnect the negative battery terminal first, and do not use aluminium foil to cover electrical terminals, try a small plastic bag- simple Heath and Safety. Good video thank you
Yes, thank you for the suggestion. I only cover with alluminium foil connections that are insulated, but yes a plastic bag is much safer.
I have posted a new (i.e. updated) video that covers pretty much everything to do with cleaning/dismantling the EGR valve in 1.6HDi/TDCi engines. You can view it here: ua-cam.com/video/wTQtVJEqGXI/v-deo.html
Loved watching this. Thanks for the guide.
Best video on this topic. I'll use it for my Volvo EGR removal. But this metal clip is my only concern since i don' t have this special tool
I used to have that watch in the 80's !
Superbe vidéo champion mon gars 👌👍
Hi Damien, I have made a even better one: ua-cam.com/video/wTQtVJEqGXI/v-deo.html
Clearly, a gentleman fitter.!
Massively helpful is their any way you could do a video on a Peugeot partner 1.6 hdi oil pressure switch and it where about cart seem to find it anywhere
I was in general thinking of short videos of showing where the different bits are, but will have to see.
The oil pressure switch is at the front of the engine on the block, left from the turbo. It is pretty tight there, so you may need to remove the front exhaust with the shields in order to get access to it. It is just above the oil dipstick, or where the dipstick tube goes inside the block of the engine, just above that.
Hi after replacement of the EGR valve is it mandatory to reset the errors with the diagnostic software? What about the recalibration? I'm going to put an Valeo valve like the original.
Yes, with a new EGR you may want to do the recalibration. Otherwise the ECU might not know where the upper and lower positions are. Faults are likely to reset on their own, but it will not correct itself without recalibration.
Very helpful video 😊
Travail très appliqué et soignée .Très bonne vidéo.
What size bolts are holding the eve vale to the engine?
on Berligo ,partner you have space for remove EGR but in Peugeot 207 its very tight
Thanks for the video. Is a hole in the plastic top caused by the air filter housing rubbing likely to cause a problem?
Hi Algarve and thank you for the very good question! You are absolutely correct, it is caused by the air filter box rubbing on the EGR valve. I have addressed this and explained how it happens here: ua-cam.com/video/qBNSyRF79VQ/v-deo.html
It is a very common issue and I have seen it properly digging a hole, but it is rather difficult to say how much of a problem it is. Some of the electronic bits and pieces are on the EGR cap (for some of the designs as there are different designs), so the airbox can potentially distort or damage some of the electronics, so it could make the EGR to stop working. I do not think it makes a difference to the airflow/gasses, as the top does not get involved in the recirculation of air/exhaust gasses. All in all, my humble opinion is that it should be amended and not let the airbox create a hole in the EGR valve. All the best.
@@moremolecules Thanks for your help. Very much appreciated. I'm going to put some tape over the hole and address the air filter housing problem since the valve seems to be working OK.
@@ktcpools If it works OK, i.e. tested with PP2000/diagbox/Lexia, then it is probably ok to put tape on top. Otherwise it is a bit difficult to know if it is working ok or not, it could be stuck on closed position.
3:45 widać niebieska wtyczkę, od czego ona jest?
Updated version of this is here: ua-cam.com/video/wTQtVJEqGXI/v-deo.html and the different plugs here ua-cam.com/video/-ZqiyCFg0sI/v-deo.html
One of the plugs is for the fuel heater and the other for the water in diesel sensor.
How do you manage to keep your fingers so clean?
Haha, sometimes I use gloves, but depends what I am touching. To be honest they always get dirty at the end.
What is the inlet that you covered up with foil after you covered the turbo.? Mine seems to be caked in oil.
Hi Vamoose, that would be the crankcase breather and it is expected to be oily. Make sure the rubber o-ring is intact and if you can look straight into the crankcase breather there would be a spring, that should be also intact. Better still, replace the rubber o-ring. I have a video explaining how to do it and the dimensions of the new o-ring here: ua-cam.com/video/ziKR6M6ToSg/v-deo.html
more molecules great thanks for help
I searched where this car's glow plug relay is not found thanks
Good video thanks, but in my 307 it's not to easy to remove that egr valve front glass It going In to engine chamber, and the place is limited, but of course it is possible to do :)
Nice silver foil jobs, but you should really disconnect the battery while working on the car particularly in tight spaces!
Haha, yes, absolutely agree. My subsequent jobs were much better with respect to health and safety (mine and the engine).
you don't have to remove fuel filter or bracket, access to 2 egr bolts is easy with airbox out the way, don't make it harder than you have too
Hi Paul, at the time there was not a single video how to remove the EGR valve, so I thought to make more space for myself. I guess it is possible without removing the fuel filter + bracket.
@@moremolecules hi yeah thats fair enough, i didnt mean to come across as harshly as it sounded, its a good video and extremely helpful
@@pauloneill8912 No worries at all. I will have to clean it again and the advice is really helpful.
Hi! Do you know where's the speed sensor?
That would be the abs sensor and depending on what model you have it is generally on the wheel hub. The wheel hib has a magnetic strip nd the sensor measure from this.
@@moremolecules it's a Berlingo 1.6 hdi aswell. Year 2008. I couldn't find the speed / vss sensor. Thanks for your answer.
Hi there, can you use diagbox/PP2000 to delete the egr valve ? Great information in video
Hi Lawrence, I think you can use the diagbox to delete EGR valve, but I have not looked into that. There may need to be an ECU update in order to account for the deleted EGR
Placing a blank in my daughters 2009, 1.4, diesel 8valve did not bring on the engine light however doing the same to my 2005, 2.0 litre C max did.? Much improved performance with the blank in.
Just a quick one, where is the throttle body ?
Fault code indicating fault.
Hi Lawrence, the throttle body or doseur is right after the intercooler on the right. If you follow the air intake pipe past the turbo the two pipes go into the doseur.
Hi. Thanks for the great vid. Is the EGR in the same location in 2.0 HDI Partner?
I think it is the same location. You can follow the EGR pipe that is on top of the engine almost.
@@moremolecules Ah thank you very much. I will give a try today.
Which side of that would I attach my blanking plate too?
Hi Andrew, if you want to put a blanking plate it will be instead of the current one with the hole inside, i.e. between the EGR and the block of the engine. Hope this helps.
Hey more molecules. I am planning to buy the 1.9 diesel engine dw8 berlingo. Do you know how to blank this one off?
Hi het, do not quote me on this, but I thin kthe 1.9 dw8 is a vacuum driven/operated EGR, way different than the 1.6hdi, so it should be possible to block it with a plate. I also do not think it will throw EML on the dashboard.
@@moremolecules yes sounds great. But just exactly which hose / pipe should i block? If i look @ a picture of the valve on google it shows a total of 3 outlets on the valve. Which one should i block?
@@robhartman01 I meant steel plate between the engine and the EGR rather than the pipes.
@@moremolecules probably you mean the inlet manifold. Right?
@@robhartman01 Yes, that's what I meant, but I still not really know this engine well, so might be misleading you
Very informative..! Does a new EGR need reprogramming if installed brand new? I have the C4 HDI 1.6 Diesel? Thanks
Hi Gabriel, yes, a new EGR would need re-programming. The ECU needs to re-learn the EGR valve. For the C4 there is lexia or diagbox.
@@moremolecules if i buy a used one, it doesn't need to reprogram it ?
@@Cateyes86 Sorry, I did not mean a new one, I meant if you put any EGR valve that is not the current one. It needs to be programmed in the ECU.
@@moremolecules mine old died and i bought new one, installed it and light went away and 3 years later it still works.
How clogged was it?
It was not too badly clogged. I had cleaned ~2 years before that video.
Do i have egr valve in my berlingo 2.0 hdi from 2006 ?
Yes, all HDi will have an EGR valve.
How difficult is it to change heater plugs on Peugeot partner van
It is not too difficult, although very hard to reach at the back of the engine. I have a video of replacing mine: ua-cam.com/video/qefjCCHx5t0/v-deo.html
Your engine is so clear. Do you wash it everyday? )))
Haha, I would not say it is very clean and I have never washed it.
you must drive in very clean areas.. impossible to have the motor like this
I can’t get the air cleaner assembly out from behind the motor. The assembly hits the EGR and there is no way I can lift it any higher. I have taken the battery out beforehand but that was a bit premature. I have taken the plastic plenum out from above it but no luck. Any ideas?
That would depend on the model of car you have. Some are more difficult than others to get the air filter assembly out. I suspect a few of the plastic covers need removing.
moved all the plastic covers and had to bend a few things but it is out.
Hi there great in depth video. How long in real time would it take me to fit a new EGR Valve, i am very mechanically minded and just wanted to save garage labour prices if i can and also how much roughly is a new EGR Valve 16HDI. 09 Plate Partner Van. Thanks.
Hi Steven, good question actually. If you had the clic-r-type tool, if of course yours is that type, I would say max 2h for the whole thing. In reality it will be probably less, it is a bit fiddly here and there. If I were you I would buy an EGR valve by Hella. I bought theirs and have not looked back since. I am not too sure about the 09 Partner, it may be slightly different than mine, but price-wise is ~£150-160. It is a bit steep, but it is a good quality valve. I bought a Haas one, which had a manufacturer's fault, one of the mechanical parts was sticking, thus I can only recommend the one I know works.
Also, you would need Digabox/PP2000 in order to re-code the new EGR valve. If you had the software working, then it is another 15-20min to tell the ECU that there is a replacement EGR valve. It is not that much work, but it is fiddly to find the actual menu to reconfigure the replacement EGR.
@@moremolecules Hi thanks for that info. 240,000 miles my vans done and has no power at low revs and a bit hairy on slip roads, does a faulty EGR Valve affect the turbo working as it should?.
@@stevensmith277 It could potentially, but at this mileage I would have a more careful look at the turbo. If you have the diagbox/PP2000 I would check the boost values. If the EGR is faulty, there should be an error in the logs associated with the EGR. I would also look at the intercooler and potentially clean/drain it. With this mileage the intercooler efficiency will be reduced due to oil build up from the PCV valve and/or small leaks from the turbo seals (compressor side).
@@moremolecules Thankyou so much, i must be really careful now then as my local garage says turbo is ok but there is an EGR Valve fault and then maybe theyll start adding other things into the equation. Runs lovely at 60/70 mph apart from the lack of power at low revs. £125 + labour so not sure whether to go with it as i dont really have the time anymore tinkering and getting dirty. Fault lights out so at least ill get my MOT due now.
Your advice has helped 100% and i appreciate all you have said, im going to let them do the work and if no change i can question it. Ill be in touch, Regards.
@@stevensmith277 No worries. For the EGR valve in a garage should not take more than 2h, including the re-coding. Good luck and let me know if something comes up.
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Yeah, I think I bought it in 1997 and I still have it.
had you got low power and black smoke thats wat i have at the min on my 2011 1.6 berlingo cheers bro:)
I have not had that, but you can check on the berlingoforum @ www.berlingoforum.com. Quite a few problems asked/solved
I ordered this replacement clamp and it was too big ?
Hi christy4, I am really sorry that this was the wrong size for your engine. To be honest I do not really know why this would be so. The parts that I put in the description are parts that I have tested myself on my car and they fit. I suspect your engine is the same? Either the seller has sent something else or your engine is some modification that I have not seen before. This clamp should fit all 1.6HDi and TDCis. Does it say 1628 3J?
No no jeez you’ve been a great help with your videos thanks a million it’s just I’ve had to leave it off for now as I needed the car. I’ll buy another on eBay. Mines a Citroen C5 with the same engine. Maybe the join’s smaller although I doubt it or maybe amazon sent the wrong one. It had that number on the packet. I’ll see if I can put a proper one on by feel as I found the air filter set up on those mountings a bit of a nightmare. I’m going to try the wider o ring you recommend as I get a lot of oil onto the engine from it. In no way was I blaming you and as I say you’ve been a great help. I’m doing the timing belt tomorrow 😱😨🤢
@@chisty4436 Weird. Not too sure what to say, perhaps something from ebay with the same PSA number will be the correct size.
Thank you, cleaned inlet manifold/throttle body and sensors all of which were gummed up.
Tool your advice and checked egr valve and cleaned further.i went for a few drives and thought it was solved - 40 mile later it thee same codes. I have now blanked valve and to be honest the van is a lot better especially on first start up of the day.
Have you any further videos planned ?
Lawrence
Hi Lawrence, I meant to check if the pin slides ok in the channel of the EGR valve. Blocking the EGR valve might have some unintended consequences, among other things it may overall increase fuel consumption when driving on say a motorway. I think there was a really good video in my liked videos, where this was explained in fairly good detail.
I have a few videos, but will have to do them one by one, too many other things going on at the moment. Main one that is coming is proper longer-term crankcase pressure and some other oil catch can modifications. I will have to do the coolant fairly soon, so this will be coming as well.
What mileage was this done and was it the original
Hi Shane, the car had travelled at the time ~73,000 miles and the EGR valve was the original one.
Is it an 8mm spanner to remove the 2 bolts holding the EGR valve?
You seem to have a lot of hand room. Did you remove the air duct prior to this?
It was a while ago, but as far as I remember it was 8mm 2 bolts, although I might be wrong, should have written this in the description.
About the plenty of room, that is quite true. My engine is 1.6hdi and the engine bay is designed for a 2.0hdi, hence the room space. I am quite lucky in that respect.
cant0do0better My next door neighbor reckons the 2 bolts are torx30 but can't see it myself. I reckon they must be 8mm.
They are certainly not torx, but hexagon, although I cannot quite recall if they were 8mm
Hi! Can faulty EGR valve cause bigger fuel consumption?
It could increase fuel consumption, but it will depend on if it is stuck on open or closed position or somewhere in between.
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Can you remember how big the clip was for the clic-r? I was going to replace it with a normal screw type.
Hi mikeyp, I still have the old clic-r type clamp and can measure it if you want, but the new one I put on and it was the perfect size is part number: 16283J. Let me know and I can measure the original one.
@@moremolecules hey not a problem. I can see you replaced it. Can you use wire cutters instead? Trying to not buy a tool I'll never use again.
Ps thanks for your video and I'm going to give it a go in cleaning mine. Mines only 2 years old and it's sticking already. I've got some cleaner and I'll use your method on your other vid.
Ps thanks for replying. I might use a jubilee clip or a cable tie. Does the egr get hot?
Mike
@@mikey2811 Not too sure if wire cutters would work, it is pretty solid metal bracket, but it might work. I only used the tool once and as you said pretty wasted money. I bought a new EGR and it was sticking on the 6th month, cleaned it, still sticking at ~30%. I think the channel was not entirely smooth and could not slide back as easy. If you clean yours and it is still sticking, check if the channel is clean and the pin inside can slide just by shaking it. That is what happens in the car.
I think you may have some success with a combination of wire cutters and a screwdriver. I think I have seen people unclipping it with a screwdriver, but it did not budge when I tried it. Not too sure if a jubilee clip or a cable tie will work, as there are lips on the EGR intercooler and the EGR itself. The clip holds or goes over both lips. The EGR valve gets pretty hot, hot gasses pass through. Hope this helps, but let me know, I can measure the tool/original clip.
@@moremolecules thank you so much for your help.
I'll have a look as when it was replaced before I'm not sure what was used to seal it back.
Thanks again. Great vid
One other question. Can you reuse the old clip with those pliers? Does one side unlock and the other lock? Trying to not buy extra things I don't need
Thank you, I’ve pretty much give up with this valve. Cleaned twice thoroughly, checked solenoid and all working, delete codes and mil back on. There are other codes showing but the code relevant to this will not go.
I intend to cap this, only drawback is re map, as this can only do a stage 1 which is basically a tune up and delete egr, the cost is £150 quite shocking for a box to be unticked.
On a lighter note, how about a rocker cover gasket replacement ? Seems to be a common problem.
By the way the clip on the egr/cooler, I am sure you highlighted an alternative one that did not require the clic tool, if I am correct have you the part number or further info.
Thank you, will update you on the re map and closure of the valve.
Hi Lawrence, you may want to check if the channel that holds the pin (for the valve itself) is smooth and the pins slides smoothly. I had a brand new EGR valve and was consistently returning an error, e.g. stuck at ~35%. The grooved channel was not drilled quite smoothly and sometimes the pin could not get past an imperfection.
The alternative that does not require the clic tool is 16283J.
Where did you get the screw type clic clamp?
ebay. You can search with the Peugeot/Citroen part number: 16283J
cant0do0better hey bro. Can you help me with something again?
I searched the manufacturer code (16283J) on ebay, there are still some there.
look i closed my egr valve and i am getting a P0299 fault code. do you have a obd2 reader? if so .... could you close your egr valve and check if you are also getting this message... tnx bro
I have not seen this error, but read here (www.peugeotforums.com/forums/207-36/my-turbo-done-fault-code-p0299-191546/) to see if that helps
Hi will it be the same for a pug 207 1.6
I suppose it should be, if it is the 1.6HDi, but depends if it is newer than mine. Should not be too different though.
What is the erg
EGR stands for Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve. It simply re-routes some of the exhaust gasses to go back into the engine instead of fresh air to reduce the temperature of combustion within the cylinders and hence a reduction in NOx gasses and sometimes reduces pumping losses from an engine during engine braking.
Thinking of selling our Berlingo. It started to cause problems and it only has like 76000km. Yesterday the AdBlue pump died, cost ca. 800EUR. Not willing to pay so much I had it bypassed via a software tune up. The guy hooked up the computer and said the EGR valve is jammed too.... Common guys, WTF is this?
Yeah, the adblue pump is problematic on the berlingo. EGR jamming at 76k is a bit too soon.
Man good video but loose the watch, I'm sure you know the damage it will do if you short it. Not worth the risk get a wall clock
Hi Mark, many thanks for the advice. I have not really thought about it. Good one, next time no watch :-)
Your talking rubbish
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salut, j'aimerais savoir quelle sont ses mauvais fonctionnement (comment reconnaître qu'elle est en panne)Valve.
There could be a lot of symptoms, ranging from rough idling to no power or limp mode if it has broken in an open state. Mine was broken in a closed state, so I did not have any symptoms while driving the car. There were several codes when read with odb2 scanner. Nevertheless, the car will produce more NO2, as no exhaust gas can go back into the engine and reduce the temperature of burning of diesel.
Hope this helps.
@@moremolecules so basically your car was healthier without a working egr valve? :))
@@Underpressure11 Potentially yes, but depends on how you define healthier though. The higher temperature in the chamber is not too good thing and who knows how it impacts the engine overall. It could be just emissions, but I suspect it will somewhat impact on the consumption as to run without an EGR it needs new ECU map.
What a ball ache that is. Takes 2 mins on a mondeo
Haha, it is not as bad as it looks
Coukd have done with giving us time to read the writing but it flicks past way too fast to be able to read without pausing the video
Good tip david, thank you.
Great video thanks, my c4 GP has warning lights saying handbrake faulty esp/ fault, and have found that it’s the egr valve which had caused this !?!? Strange I know. Do you know any reason this would be? Hope you can help ? Many thanks
Hi mad monk, that is a first for me, unless there is not a separate warning light for an EGR fault and you get some sort of generic handbrake/esp fault. I do not think there is a specific light for an EGR fault, so it could be that this combination gives you an indication that something is wrong, e.g. EGR.
My anti freeze / water light comes in and flashing stop on start up for gd 10 mins.
Plugged in EGR blocked
Also smokes really bad on start up. Once got it’s fine.
Blanking egr valve of tomorrow.
Hopefully it goes to plan.
Thanks
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Yes, I agree, the poles on the battery should be disconnected
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DPF filters, EGR valves, AdBlue, Eolys... I'll never buy another crappy oil burner again. Why would anyone.
Hmm, I bought my car back in 2011, so the general consensus at the time was that they are fisrt of all better engines and second produced a lot less CO2. Now, they are a lot more economical than petrol engines and of course in order to reduce harmful pollutants you need the, as you have put it, DPF, EGR, AdBlue Eolys, etc. Why do you think trucks, most of them, are still diesels? Because they are crappy oil burners...
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Baya culo quitar esa egr como para hacerlo uno mismo .
Really?!
Cable ties?
Tin Foil?
I bet you're one of those people who sit in the Pub talking about how fantastic 'my car' is, with a captive audience, until they realise you are talking about a run of the mill Citroen and they leave you to it and start talking among themselves about football, etc.
My C4 1.6 Hdi gets oil changed/serviced every 3000 miles, washed every couple of weeks and the engine bay gets hit with a jet wash as, and when, I think to do it.
I tend to talk about art and literature.
Think of it this way he is msking a video that helps others, pointless comment made really
Thank you Rc Adventures north wales, much appreciated.
Bit of talking would help
Hi Andrew, I absolutely agree, but it was my first video on youtube. I will upload in the very near future another one that has all the talk as well.
@@moremolecules I'm shit at engines and need baby steps you see haha
The tin foil made this video!!!!
My god those engines are shit!!!
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Nice angle lol
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