This is why i Love Dirty Civ, very open minded group of people that also understand not everyone has military backgrounds and knowledge. Been watching you guys since you started and i've come to fall in love with not only the content, but also the people behind it. thank you for all the effort that goes into this channel!
Some dudes that served in the military and even had confirmed kills are pussies when it comes to owning guns as civilians and not that great of shooters
Escape from tarkov has made it abundantly clear to me that no matter how set up my rifle is, how careful I am with my movement, and what armor I have, I will catch a round to the face and become a lot drop. Doesn't help that I'm like a drunk baby deer with PC controls and lose any semblance of agility when I'm ambushed.
FPS were made for mouse and keyboard tho, thumb sticks are just about the worst control mechanism possible for shooters. That's why so many console FPS have to add in aim assist. I see guys on CoD all the time who get their ankles broken by my movement because they lean so hard on the aim assist and it didn't pick me up in the moment.
Good to see stuff like this. Most UA-camrs running "realistic" groups barely scratch the surface when it comes to emulating real world tactics. Modern tactics have taken a huge turn and there are way too many arm chair operators that don't care to hear your input.
Been playing ready or not with my buddies since the early release. It's interesting how your tactics change once you 1) understand the intricacies of your teammates, 2) have prior knowledge of the operating area.
You guys should definitely try this with a game called Door Kickers 2, it is a top down tactical game where you (and friends as well, there is co op) draw out a plan to take out enemies, rescue hostages, destroy weapon caches, etc. Also the modded units are really cool as well, you can play as Green Berets or Delta Force and more.
I was just telling my buddy the other day that he needs to get a PC so we can play some Ready or Not and train online in a more dynamic environment. So great timing on this video. As a Rainbow Six: Siege player as well I can attest that the intro is a bit too accurate to some of the people that I've encountered.
I've never smashed my equipment like that but the feelings have been there from time to time. It's the worst when I know I did something dumb and played poorly, especially in DMZ where you get punished by having 1/3rd the health as everyone else and have a few hours long cooldowns on your custom weapons when you die.
this is NO where close to what you learn if you were to do it in person. you will NOT absorb the info that you need to if you were to "train" with video games that you would irl.
Spent 15 years in the Marine Corps (E-7) and was in real life Fallujah. I played the game Six Days in Fallujah and it was incredible, almost too realistic. This random German guy and I were the only guys left and he asked me if I had Ready or Not, which I did. He had hundreds of hours in and I had less than one. The movement is ultra realistic and I was blown away. We spent about five hours playing till we realized we both had to get some sleep for work, but in that five hours we got to a point we're we communicating non-verbally just as must if not more than verbally. Visualization definitely helps and there have guys countless battalions that sabotaged themselves through fear.
Hi from France, it's a great video. 🇫🇷 I practice CQB by playing Airsoft and by playing FPS simulations like Ready or Not. Ready or Not players gave me tactical advices that I use now in Airsoft. It's an eternal learning and transfer of knowledge through different platforms of experience. I also used some VR simulations to understand how some weapons work, how to reload them, how the firing modes work (which can be very different from a weapon to an other).
I actually tried teaching some friends some perspective and other stuff on Ready or Not, Ground Branch + arma, and it actually works. I could see them enjoy the fact that they applied what we went through in a game to IRL. For context. These guys are quite busy and can’t always drive to meet up. We experimented by using different platforms to create our own “sand box” :)
ArmA 3 is so old and clunky but man do I love that game. It's like a spiritual progenitor to RoN but in a military setting and with a massive open world
@@Sophistry0001RoN for CQB and close quarters movements, Arma for wide open range small to large unit tactics and maneuvers…. I don’t have RoN yet but playing in Arma I love playing DRO and coordinating my AI to execute successful support by fire style combat and maneuvers
@@Sophistry0001 arma is my favorite game right now. I probably have like 300 gigs worth of private mods, all including crye and ferro and opscore and a bunch of guns and shit and its honestly better than any shooter game ive played
Thank you to the awesome guys at Dirty Civilian! I purchased Ready or Not last month and I was hoping someone from the 2A community made a video covering this topic. Perfect timing!
Never been a gamer but this certainly has me thinking about it. Going to in person classes is great but, you can do endless runs and scenarios with this tool to stay fresh and improve after taking a class. Great video guys!
Compared to those who like to use SOLO to clear the level or watch flawless Co-op videos, I prefer and admire teaching methods like yours that use your own failure experience to provide everyone with how to avoid making the same mistakes. Well done.
As a police officer in Brazil, I believe that games (not all, obviously, but some specific ones) can be used as a kind of tool that will assist in training, in a practical, relatively cheap and functional way. Great video and congratulations on the topic!
A couple things Escape from Tarkov has made me think more about is target focus, and maximizing use of cover during fights. Not the real thing of course but still being ingrained in my mind.
Definitely recommend playing with UA-camrs such as Karmakut and Controlled Pairs. Controlled is former Ranger and Karma used real SOPs taught by veterans to run platoon-sized ops in Arma.
@@adammcelwee8492No he isn’t 💀💀😹😹 tf you hear that from? he plays airsoft and that’s it, he even goes through the trouble of making it known that he was not in the military
Been doing this for a couple years now, it works really well, as long as you view it (whatever game you choose to play) as a training/a training tool. Personally have taught active duty guys, vets and civvies alike, a lot of CQB tactics using milsims
I think this is a wonderful training aid. After you understand the layout of a map, the advantage of knowing the area can be really strong and it can also become an unrealistic advantage. If SHTF you may find yourself in areas with little to no knowledge of the layout. In these cases, training for the unknown is very helpful and I would highly recommend playing something like Six Days In Fallujah which has randomly generated villages.
I'm glad youre touching on this game. I've played this game since the BETA and its evolved so much as a game and its made me think so much about all these things. I've noticed my civ friends take more care on these types of things with real firearms after playing the game. Cause like you said, theyve visualized the cause and effect/ consequences
I became friends with a guy in tech school. He invited me to play games with him. It didn’t take long for the verbal abuse of his girlfriend to start. This intro brought back memories of that guy. Seemed like such a nice, friendly guy.
I remember my first time shooting and I got a hat trick the first time I shot skeet, and I think my ability to visually track targets was extremely helpful and I learned that from video games.
11:05 one thing to remember is using the light through that barrier in real life will NOT work. You can try at home. If you're trying to shine at stair spindles or some sport of fence, the light bouncing back and hitting you will far outweigh the light going through and you won't be able to see though at all unless you push your light right into a crack of the barrier. Something to try out
When u all stepped over that last guy w blue gloves, I’ve played the game enough to think dead check him or keep at least one muzzle on him cus knowing this game he’ll get up. And when you turned around to him standing I laughed. I really do enjoy ready or not.
I remember when i joined the navy, it was the height of MW2. Went through the M9, M4, and M500 familiarization in boot camp. Already knew how to use them because of MW2, and i remember the instructor was kinda shocked when most of my division said they'd learned from call of duty lmao Same happened when i got my hands on my M240, except it was an old marine and he was pissed we'd learned from video games
The point about guys not having enough comerodery is super true in our modern world. Games, sports, and gym are one of the few things that let us connect with other guys on a regular basis.
Depending on the server you join, Arma 3 can also be amazing for learning longer range infantry/small unit tactics as well as managing comms traffic. I recommend the 77th JSOC server.
I’ve been playing arma reforger, since I don’t have a PC yet, and I have learned so much from it. In reforger I have learned to use landnav, set up gear, and use different tactics. There is also a radio system that has been interesting. I’ve radioed in choppers to come pick a group of guys up and we landed a few clicks out and assaulted a base. Sorry to ramble but Arma is definitely a top pick to learn and execute different tactics.
The Rainbow Six and Swat games introduced me to realistic tactics and "tacticool" weapons and kit. Ready or Not is the true successors and progression of those games where Ubisoft fucked off to online generic shooter land years ago. I've always been an advocate of using hyper realistic tactical dhooters to familiarize yourself with tactics and even realistic ballistics when simulated right.
Bro, I was online with my squad a few years back and out of nowhere my boy started gagging and spitting over the mic. for a few seconds, when he got back in the chat we asked what happened and yes he drank his own piss from a bottle!!!!! We all died!!!!!! Thank you for bringing back some good memories
Lmfao that intro tho. My buddy once actually went into the kitchen, grabbed a knife and cut every cable on his brand new PS3, after smashing his brand new controller and smashing the unit with the brand new game in it...He followed through..like a real man.
This channel is quickly getting up there for me. Great perspective and approach. And this game is pretty sick. As an AVID COD lover, You guys opened my eyes lol
Scanning at waist height is really good for keeping up situational awareness as well as pelvic shots with rifles generally incapacitates rather than outright killing. Also, playing this game with random matchmaking can be very fun. Sometimes you will get guys who are efficient, other times you gets guys who are just a good laugh to watch them get f’d. Nothing is more rewarding than teaching someone things in a game like this and seeing them get better and better. This is a great game to pull someone into before taking them into something like squad, arma, dayz, or tarkov.
I’ll have to check this one out! I’v been playing games like this for years (mostly Arma 3) and good comms are key for sure! Every time I play with good communicators our group starts mopping the floor with the other team. Likewise, I can always tell if the communicators are playing against me…
More great content. I really loved your "build community" podcast, resonated hard. But this is great. Still working on my community so no squad to coordinate with!
I've been saying this for like 3 years now. Games aren't training, but they can definitely be a "supplement" if you isolate parts of it and learn from them. I learned a ton from milsim games like Arma 3 and Ready Or Not and the right community within them. And it's cheaper and easier to set up than doing some of these things live
Another thing that can be used for training is Tactical Assault VR. It's a milsim game the requires teamwork and communication to complete objectives, and it's also really fun. It may not be the best, but it can help with things a little bit
I think certain games are a great tool for training. Obviously it’s not the real thing but not everyone has the time, place etc to do these things irl but a lot of people can get a game. Especially if it’s with people you plan on teaming up with in a shtf scenario it’s good to learn all the terms and silent visuals of your teammates.
Nice that yall are touching on this, maybe should try with say a game like Ghosts of Tabor or even at the most basic, Onward but the 5v5 comp uplink play. Both VR games. PC desktop can never compare aside from getting the mentality of thinking under pressure ect. Would love to see yall grab a vr headset and try again. Love the videos!!!!
There's another game that is pretty good at teaching the basics of CQB as well. Doorkickers 2. There's a guy who actually has a bunch of videos demonstrating various CQB concepts. It can't teach things like sweeping under vehicles or fighting from elevated positions (stairwell, second floors, etc), and I'm not sure about teaching penetration (I haven't played in a while). But as far as dispersal, breaching, pieing corners, running rabbits, pushing threats, blah blah blah yeah it can teach maneuvers like that. I've found success in teaching my nephews the basics through that game. They picked it up pretty fast for never having handled guns. Took them to an airsoft arena? They crushed it, first time out. Never been prouder than seeing my oldest nephew dome a dude with a controlled pair.
The threat identification part is crazy in this game. I had a civilian pull out a phone to start taking pictures and I thought it was a gun so put three in the chest 😅
@Dirty Civilian Do you think you'll do coverage of other FTX's like One Shepherd or Winter Forge? It would be sick to get modern editing and videography of that kind of event. MUCH more teams and tactics based with heavy emphasis on sustainment and combat patrols/ patrol bases/ recon.
Ready or Not with my homies helps us with comms and getting SOPs for how we operate with each other. We didn't learn a lot of skills, but we know how our brains work now. Working on getting airsoft for us to try it in realspace
I do play some call of duty but a game that I believe actually has some military applications are survival horror games. They teach resource management and skilled trigger discipline
Im on console so i dont have access to a lot of games PC does but i grind the living f**k out of ARMA Reforger because you get everything from switching your safety on and off, to radios, to vehicles, a basic med system (can set up CCPs), ranging and tactics in various environments and there are quite a few mods to help enhance that experience. It has some bugs but its quite fun and ive learned a lot playing it
Or conversely...The real deal gets you ready to play games like ready or not. Some dudes I served with and I are low key crushing it on this game. Real talk though this game genuinely has good training value. It lets you come up to solutions for some pretty complex floor plans.
This is very true! I grew up around guns since I was in diapers! My uncles would sneak me out to go shooting. My friend across the street never shot a real gun but when I finally got my first shotgun I didn’t know how to load it but he did because he watched the Terminator movies (not a video game) but same concept! He watched and visualized what he saw.
Actually really enjoyed the tactical reasoning commentary! I had heard a lot of those tips but was super helpful overlayed with the gameplay. Would love to see more!
Get switch illuminator mod, in game menu, and clone correct LA-5 peq to use the peq and flashlight at the same time. Also get SOF Baker Group V2 and AVS overhaul to drip out your group.
I think about this sort of thinking all the time, if you keep it in the mental frame of : - Where the similarities of how you percieve the physical space in real life vs the generated space, and how now most developers use photogrammetry or highly rendered assets to build a map that is so similar to real life (at least visually) because of the evolving technology and competition between video games companies can sort of START to bridge the gap between the physical world and computer generated... - Where the kinesthetics of movement (not any no scope 360's bullshits, as you mentioned) are either very close to real life so as to mimic weapon sway, perceived movement through propioception...again through probably market competition... Have those same game mechanics and physics engines try to match the physical world.. - Where wow look again, competitive markets try to reach more gamers, who by now after waging war for almost 20 years in the American market at least are looking for something enjoyable or more akin to their interests have tactical shooters that try to fulfill that not so niche role anymore It does fall to the younger generation to use their neuroplasticity and tools READILY available to them to implement more diverse and a wider pallete of training methods and philosophies. I'm saying this because back then computer simulated training was scoffed upon because well it wasn't really realistic, so for it being kind of unfeasible the older generation who were generally in charge of the funding for these training projects didn't really see the use of computer generated training. Older folks GENERALLY have a tough time adapting new methods, im not saying they're incapable, it's just a generally accepted norm of life that once you're older and secure, thinking in a new way isn't something usually seen to be readily accepted. That's sort of supported by biology with the concept of neuroplasticity and age. I'm sure the first dude who thought : dude we could just use laser tag to train motherfuckers right? Was looked at like this guy is the king of useless ideas, he doesn't get that video games aren't real life. Then some MF was like fuck it, strap these mf's with some Alice gear and have them train in Mount Town cause it's GWOT time. How do I know? I trained with that shit at like 19 years old. It was cumbersome and malfunctioned alot but when it did work it was pretty dope. Plus, imagine how future generations are going to improve and refine training methodologies and/or gear used to train. Tools are was useful as you make them, and as how creative you can get with using the tool. Sure it's not going to be the end all be all, but using it to supplement training or find creative ways to STILL implement training when faced with traditional hurdles encountered by previous methods can make a tool much more useful than it was disdainfully projected to be.
RoN is a fantastic SWAT sim imo. This is not an arcade shooter at all. Think ARMA but for SWAT/CQB. Very challenging, very punishing. Agree it's probably a good place to work on communications and CQB theory with guys. The game has an official Discord server if you want to find a squad to roll with. ArmA 3 is old and controls are more clunky but is a similar game in a military setting that you can work on the theory in a giant wide open 10km x 10km kind of map.
This is why i Love Dirty Civ, very open minded group of people that also understand not everyone has military backgrounds and knowledge. Been watching you guys since you started and i've come to fall in love with not only the content, but also the people behind it. thank you for all the effort that goes into this channel!
Some dudes that served in the military and even had confirmed kills are pussies when it comes to owning guns as civilians and not that great of shooters
Love to see it. Huge value in (certain) games for training, particularly with respect to communication and visualization.
Escape from tarkov has made it abundantly clear to me that no matter how set up my rifle is, how careful I am with my movement, and what armor I have, I will catch a round to the face and become a lot drop. Doesn't help that I'm like a drunk baby deer with PC controls and lose any semblance of agility when I'm ambushed.
Haha bro get on an easier game and learn you pc controls first. I couldnt IMAGINE Tarkov being my first ever pc game. Theres like 100 key binds!
yeah, but tarkov is hacker haven so doesnt even count
@QKuKier lol this is way over blown. Git gud. It's like one out of every 25-50 raids is a blatant hacker especially this wipe.
@@dtdlilcooldooofff. There was a video proving how common hackers were. Maybe this new wipe fixed it. Can't take Tarkov as seriously as I once did.
FPS were made for mouse and keyboard tho, thumb sticks are just about the worst control mechanism possible for shooters. That's why so many console FPS have to add in aim assist. I see guys on CoD all the time who get their ankles broken by my movement because they lean so hard on the aim assist and it didn't pick me up in the moment.
Good to see stuff like this. Most UA-camrs running "realistic" groups barely scratch the surface when it comes to emulating real world tactics. Modern tactics have taken a huge turn and there are way too many arm chair operators that don't care to hear your input.
Glad to see ya here
Been playing ready or not with my buddies since the early release. It's interesting how your tactics change once you 1) understand the intricacies of your teammates, 2) have prior knowledge of the operating area.
You guys should definitely try this with a game called Door Kickers 2, it is a top down tactical game where you (and friends as well, there is co op) draw out a plan to take out enemies, rescue hostages, destroy weapon caches, etc. Also the modded units are really cool as well, you can play as Green Berets or Delta Force and more.
I was just telling my buddy the other day that he needs to get a PC so we can play some Ready or Not and train online in a more dynamic environment. So great timing on this video. As a Rainbow Six: Siege player as well I can attest that the intro is a bit too accurate to some of the people that I've encountered.
I've never smashed my equipment like that but the feelings have been there from time to time. It's the worst when I know I did something dumb and played poorly, especially in DMZ where you get punished by having 1/3rd the health as everyone else and have a few hours long cooldowns on your custom weapons when you die.
this is NO where close to what you learn if you were to do it in person. you will NOT absorb the info that you need to if you were to "train" with video games that you would irl.
Spent 15 years in the Marine Corps (E-7) and was in real life Fallujah. I played the game Six Days in Fallujah and it was incredible, almost too realistic. This random German guy and I were the only guys left and he asked me if I had Ready or Not, which I did. He had hundreds of hours in and I had less than one. The movement is ultra realistic and I was blown away. We spent about five hours playing till we realized we both had to get some sleep for work, but in that five hours we got to a point we're we communicating non-verbally just as must if not more than verbally.
Visualization definitely helps and there have guys countless battalions that sabotaged themselves through fear.
Hi from France, it's a great video. 🇫🇷
I practice CQB by playing Airsoft and by playing FPS simulations like Ready or Not. Ready or Not players gave me tactical advices that I use now in Airsoft. It's an eternal learning and transfer of knowledge through different platforms of experience. I also used some VR simulations to understand how some weapons work, how to reload them, how the firing modes work (which can be very different from a weapon to an other).
“How do we make the AI as smart and as realistic as possible so we can punish people for doing the wrong thing” is a truly terrifying prospect.
I actually tried teaching some friends some perspective and other stuff on Ready or Not, Ground Branch + arma, and it actually works. I could see them enjoy the fact that they applied what we went through in a game to IRL.
For context. These guys are quite busy and can’t always drive to meet up. We experimented by using different platforms to create our own “sand box” :)
ArmA 3 is so old and clunky but man do I love that game. It's like a spiritual progenitor to RoN but in a military setting and with a massive open world
@@Sophistry0001RoN for CQB and close quarters movements, Arma for wide open range small to large unit tactics and maneuvers….
I don’t have RoN yet but playing in Arma I love playing DRO and coordinating my AI to execute successful support by fire style combat and maneuvers
@@Sophistry0001 arma is my favorite game right now. I probably have like 300 gigs worth of private mods, all including crye and ferro and opscore and a bunch of guns and shit and its honestly better than any shooter game ive played
Thank you to the awesome guys at Dirty Civilian! I purchased Ready or Not last month and I was hoping someone from the 2A community made a video covering this topic. Perfect timing!
Never been a gamer but this certainly has me thinking about it. Going to in person classes is great but, you can do endless runs and scenarios with this tool to stay fresh and improve after taking a class. Great video guys!
Compared to those who like to use SOLO to clear the level or watch flawless Co-op videos, I prefer and admire teaching methods like yours that use your own failure experience to provide everyone with how to avoid making the same mistakes. Well done.
As a police officer in Brazil, I believe that games (not all, obviously, but some specific ones) can be used as a kind of tool that will assist in training, in a practical, relatively cheap and functional way. Great video and congratulations on the topic!
A couple things Escape from Tarkov has made me think more about is target focus, and maximizing use of cover during fights. Not the real thing of course but still being ingrained in my mind.
Definitely recommend playing with UA-camrs such as Karmakut and Controlled Pairs. Controlled is former Ranger and Karma used real SOPs taught by veterans to run platoon-sized ops in Arma.
Karma is also a former army combat vet I believe.
@adammcelwee8492 I think he declared that he is strickly a gamer who has never served
gild gaming has a team of guys who are actually former marines and swat, their communication and skill is really entertaining to see.
@@adammcelwee8492No he isn’t 💀💀😹😹 tf you hear that from? he plays airsoft and that’s it, he even goes through the trouble of making it known that he was not in the military
Been doing this for a couple years now, it works really well, as long as you view it (whatever game you choose to play) as a training/a training tool. Personally have taught active duty guys, vets and civvies alike, a lot of CQB tactics using milsims
dudes i’m 19 and constantly inspired by your educational yet very entertaining vids! thank you guys! and God bless you all!
I love ready or not. It's the game I've been waiting for forever.
I think this is a wonderful training aid. After you understand the layout of a map, the advantage of knowing the area can be really strong and it can also become an unrealistic advantage. If SHTF you may find yourself in areas with little to no knowledge of the layout. In these cases, training for the unknown is very helpful and I would highly recommend playing something like Six Days In Fallujah which has randomly generated villages.
Ive been playing tarkov with some of my platoon, and its kind of amazing how well real world training transfers into thebvirtual world
I'm glad youre touching on this game. I've played this game since the BETA and its evolved so much as a game and its made me think so much about all these things. I've noticed my civ friends take more care on these types of things with real firearms after playing the game. Cause like you said, theyve visualized the cause and effect/ consequences
I became friends with a guy in tech school. He invited me to play games with him. It didn’t take long for the verbal abuse of his girlfriend to start. This intro brought back memories of that guy. Seemed like such a nice, friendly guy.
OMFG, we missed those funny yet quality intros so much!
By the way, why you spilled that apple juice? You don't like apple juice?
I remember my first time shooting and I got a hat trick the first time I shot skeet, and I think my ability to visually track targets was extremely helpful and I learned that from video games.
11:05 one thing to remember is using the light through that barrier in real life will NOT work. You can try at home. If you're trying to shine at stair spindles or some sport of fence, the light bouncing back and hitting you will far outweigh the light going through and you won't be able to see though at all unless you push your light right into a crack of the barrier. Something to try out
The Wedding Crashers + piss bottle = comedy GOLD
Man I remember when dirty civilian was at like 15k subs, y’all have come a long way
Another all time great intro keep up the awesome content fellas
When u all stepped over that last guy w blue gloves, I’ve played the game enough to think dead check him or keep at least one muzzle on him cus knowing this game he’ll get up. And when you turned around to him standing I laughed. I really do enjoy ready or not.
I remember when i joined the navy, it was the height of MW2. Went through the M9, M4, and M500 familiarization in boot camp. Already knew how to use them because of MW2, and i remember the instructor was kinda shocked when most of my division said they'd learned from call of duty lmao
Same happened when i got my hands on my M240, except it was an old marine and he was pissed we'd learned from video games
The point about guys not having enough comerodery is super true in our modern world. Games, sports, and gym are one of the few things that let us connect with other guys on a regular basis.
Depending on the server you join, Arma 3 can also be amazing for learning longer range infantry/small unit tactics as well as managing comms traffic. I recommend the 77th JSOC server.
I’ve been playing arma reforger, since I don’t have a PC yet, and I have learned so much from it. In reforger I have learned to use landnav, set up gear, and use different tactics. There is also a radio system that has been interesting. I’ve radioed in choppers to come pick a group of guys up and we landed a few clicks out and assaulted a base. Sorry to ramble but Arma is definitely a top pick to learn and execute different tactics.
Tactical Assault VR is great for room clearing & Onwards pretty good too depending on how you play it
This is a great mindset on the right way to use the right type of game, ill be adding this to my tool belt!, thanks Dirty civilian.
The Rainbow Six and Swat games introduced me to realistic tactics and "tacticool" weapons and kit. Ready or Not is the true successors and progression of those games where Ubisoft fucked off to online generic shooter land years ago. I've always been an advocate of using hyper realistic tactical dhooters to familiarize yourself with tactics and even realistic ballistics when simulated right.
loved this game before i found this channel and this channel has made me better at this game
Man I love these videos. You guys are truly going the other direction of the tac world and it’s tight!
Bro,
I was online with my squad a few years back and out of nowhere my boy started gagging and spitting over the mic. for a few seconds, when he got back in the chat we asked what happened and yes he drank his own piss from a bottle!!!!!
We all died!!!!!!
Thank you for bringing back some good memories
Lmfao that intro tho. My buddy once actually went into the kitchen, grabbed a knife and cut every cable on his brand new PS3, after smashing his brand new controller and smashing the unit with the brand new game in it...He followed through..like a real man.
This channel is quickly getting up there for me. Great perspective and approach. And this game is pretty sick. As an AVID COD lover, You guys opened my eyes lol
Best intro so far from these guys
dirty civilian always killlllllin it with these vids
Scanning at waist height is really good for keeping up situational awareness as well as pelvic shots with rifles generally incapacitates rather than outright killing.
Also, playing this game with random matchmaking can be very fun. Sometimes you will get guys who are efficient, other times you gets guys who are just a good laugh to watch them get f’d. Nothing is more rewarding than teaching someone things in a game like this and seeing them get better and better. This is a great game to pull someone into before taking them into something like squad, arma, dayz, or tarkov.
The intro is just top notch... A cinematic masterpiece... Bravo! 🤣🤣🤣
Fantastic Intro skit on this one fellas, and great content as always!
I’ll have to check this one out! I’v been playing games like this for years (mostly Arma 3) and good comms are key for sure! Every time I play with good communicators our group starts mopping the floor with the other team. Likewise, I can always tell if the communicators are playing against me…
I'm at the intro and already dying! Love some DC!
More great content. I really loved your "build community" podcast, resonated hard. But this is great. Still working on my community so no squad to coordinate with!
I've been saying this for like 3 years now. Games aren't training, but they can definitely be a "supplement" if you isolate parts of it and learn from them. I learned a ton from milsim games like Arma 3 and Ready Or Not and the right community within them. And it's cheaper and easier to set up than doing some of these things live
Another thing that can be used for training is Tactical Assault VR. It's a milsim game the requires teamwork and communication to complete objectives, and it's also really fun. It may not be the best, but it can help with things a little bit
Love this game. Glad you guys covered it
Nice wedding crashers reference. 😂
I think certain games are a great tool for training. Obviously it’s not the real thing but not everyone has the time, place etc to do these things irl but a lot of people can get a game. Especially if it’s with people you plan on teaming up with in a shtf scenario it’s good to learn all the terms and silent visuals of your teammates.
DUDES!!! I have been searching for a video on this topic just last week! Crazy! Thank you! Ha!
Bruh I can’t be the only one to amazed by the visual details Ready or not, the characters jeans has the tags on them like Levis lol
Nice that yall are touching on this, maybe should try with say a game like Ghosts of Tabor or even at the most basic, Onward but the 5v5 comp uplink play. Both VR games. PC desktop can never compare aside from getting the mentality of thinking under pressure ect. Would love to see yall grab a vr headset and try again. Love the videos!!!!
JUST BUY IT ALREADY. 10/10 one of the best games ever. IMO
this intro is legit lol , this is why i play breakpoint with people who like tactics
Best intro yet boys! 😂
I love that intro
Ready or Not still has problems especially AI and visibility and performance but can be mitigated with mods
Insurgency: Sandstorm has been my go to recently. Especially on Hardcore.
Intro was one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen
Best channels on youtube !
@9:13 stepping over a warm corpse to conduct a tactical tedtalk
Y’all are some good actors for real lmao
Laughed so hard during this intro. Thank you
Arma is a great one for all round training, land nav, patrolling, CQB, you name it you can train it
There's another game that is pretty good at teaching the basics of CQB as well. Doorkickers 2. There's a guy who actually has a bunch of videos demonstrating various CQB concepts. It can't teach things like sweeping under vehicles or fighting from elevated positions (stairwell, second floors, etc), and I'm not sure about teaching penetration (I haven't played in a while). But as far as dispersal, breaching, pieing corners, running rabbits, pushing threats, blah blah blah yeah it can teach maneuvers like that. I've found success in teaching my nephews the basics through that game. They picked it up pretty fast for never having handled guns. Took them to an airsoft arena? They crushed it, first time out. Never been prouder than seeing my oldest nephew dome a dude with a controlled pair.
Another game that works for this, especially more for outside stuff, is Ground Branch. It’s pretty rough, definitely, but a super fun game.
The threat identification part is crazy in this game. I had a civilian pull out a phone to start taking pictures and I thought it was a gun so put three in the chest 😅
RoN 1.0 is great for visualizing how to enter a structure and navigate various angles and entryways when hunting down a clan of young Jerry Miculeks.
Bro the photo sitting on the toilet 🚽 had me busting up 😂
@Dirty Civilian Do you think you'll do coverage of other FTX's like One Shepherd or Winter Forge? It would be sick to get modern editing and videography of that kind of event. MUCH more teams and tactics based with heavy emphasis on sustainment and combat patrols/ patrol bases/ recon.
Ready or Not with my homies helps us with comms and getting SOPs for how we operate with each other. We didn't learn a lot of skills, but we know how our brains work now. Working on getting airsoft for us to try it in realspace
I do play some call of duty but a game that I believe actually has some military applications are survival horror games. They teach resource management and skilled trigger discipline
Im on console so i dont have access to a lot of games PC does but i grind the living f**k out of ARMA Reforger because you get everything from switching your safety on and off, to radios, to vehicles, a basic med system (can set up CCPs), ranging and tactics in various environments and there are quite a few mods to help enhance that experience. It has some bugs but its quite fun and ive learned a lot playing it
Or conversely...The real deal gets you ready to play games like ready or not. Some dudes I served with and I are low key crushing it on this game.
Real talk though this game genuinely has good training value. It lets you come up to solutions for some pretty complex floor plans.
Haha yeah it works in reverse too!
This is very true! I grew up around guns since I was in diapers! My uncles would sneak me out to go shooting. My friend across the street never shot a real gun but when I finally got my first shotgun I didn’t know how to load it but he did because he watched the Terminator movies (not a video game) but same concept! He watched and visualized what he saw.
The toilet paper on the desk got me lol
Tier 1 acting in the intro 🔥
I think Arma 3 is an excellent experience for this type of training.
Actually really enjoyed the tactical reasoning commentary! I had heard a lot of those tips but was super helpful overlayed with the gameplay. Would love to see more!
I would start someone on door kickers first so they can learn how the team operates together.
Get switch illuminator mod, in game menu, and clone correct LA-5 peq to use the peq and flashlight at the same time. Also get SOF Baker Group V2 and AVS overhaul to drip out your group.
Thank you for sharing this training tool.
The Day Dirty Civilian collab with FPS gamers like Tomographic, Matimio, or Aculite would be a great day and very educational one.
Drew’s intros are golden🤣🤣
I think about this sort of thinking all the time, if you keep it in the mental frame of :
- Where the similarities of how you percieve the physical space in real life vs the generated space, and how now most developers use photogrammetry or highly rendered assets to build a map that is so similar to real life (at least visually) because of the evolving technology and competition between video games companies can sort of START to bridge the gap between the physical world and computer generated...
- Where the kinesthetics of movement (not any no scope 360's bullshits, as you mentioned) are either very close to real life so as to mimic weapon sway, perceived movement through propioception...again through probably market competition... Have those same game mechanics and physics engines try to match the physical world..
- Where wow look again, competitive markets try to reach more gamers, who by now after waging war for almost 20 years in the American market at least are looking for something enjoyable or more akin to their interests have tactical shooters that try to fulfill that not so niche role anymore
It does fall to the younger generation to use their neuroplasticity and tools READILY available to them to implement more diverse and a wider pallete of training methods and philosophies. I'm saying this because back then computer simulated training was scoffed upon because well it wasn't really realistic, so for it being kind of unfeasible the older generation who were generally in charge of the funding for these training projects didn't really see the use of computer generated training.
Older folks GENERALLY have a tough time adapting new methods, im not saying they're incapable, it's just a generally accepted norm of life that once you're older and secure, thinking in a new way isn't something usually seen to be readily accepted. That's sort of supported by biology with the concept of neuroplasticity and age.
I'm sure the first dude who thought : dude we could just use laser tag to train motherfuckers right?
Was looked at like this guy is the king of useless ideas, he doesn't get that video games aren't real life.
Then some MF was like fuck it, strap these mf's with some Alice gear and have them train in Mount Town cause it's GWOT time. How do I know?
I trained with that shit at like 19 years old.
It was cumbersome and malfunctioned alot but when it did work it was pretty dope.
Plus, imagine how future generations are going to improve and refine training methodologies and/or gear used to train.
Tools are was useful as you make them, and as how creative you can get with using the tool.
Sure it's not going to be the end all be all, but using it to supplement training or find creative ways to STILL implement training when faced with traditional hurdles encountered by previous methods can make a tool much more useful than it was disdainfully projected to be.
6 days in fallujah is a good one to train on in my opinion. based on the Urban environment format as well
Arma is amazing for the bigger size operations and some small-team tactics beyond cqb.
Play ready or not on pc everyday awesome game when you have the right team! VR is a great training aspect to just to learn the basic fundamentals!
And also love y’all’s videos!🤠
Loved the step bros clip 😂😂😂
Every vid is a banger
RoN is a fantastic SWAT sim imo. This is not an arcade shooter at all. Think ARMA but for SWAT/CQB. Very challenging, very punishing. Agree it's probably a good place to work on communications and CQB theory with guys. The game has an official Discord server if you want to find a squad to roll with. ArmA 3 is old and controls are more clunky but is a similar game in a military setting that you can work on the theory in a giant wide open 10km x 10km kind of map.
Definitely gonna need to get y’all in the Combat Study Group discord server. This would be a solid collaboration
Wrong bottle! 😂😂😂
Try group stuff in DayZ
very helpful with time resource and team dynamics
This is actually really cool