4:00 Note that this is no longer the case, now destroying the repository instantly turns all the identities into robot pops, which can be a considerable amount, while Nirvana leaves them in the repository. Given that I spawned next to a fanatical purifier and several fanatic xenophobes, I needed the resource and alloy production a lot more than science so I chose the second option without blinking.
Ok well hopefully that is the case. because that was pretty lame when i tried it and got nothing so my video reflected that. I'll need to play it again sometime soon. But yeah if thats the case then that option is completely valid, and is actually what i would probably pick as well.
@volairen I just did it so it seems to be the case (the only mods I have are for UI). However the origin is pretty busted. I'm not even into the midgame, on default settings and I'm already tier 3 cosmogenesis and have no idea what to do now XD
Well actually i have come very close to doing a thematic builds series on several occasions. For example I would love to cover my personal build modeled after the orks from Warhammer 40k. The more comments i see like this the more inclined i will be to pull the trigger.
4:16 I like to leave my pops to die out, to get maximum bonuses from that building. Besides that, I think second option is stronger if you get all robot tech and tradition VERY fast, so bonuses from repository are small and it's better to build normal building + get pops back.
@@volairen So when I gave this a try last week I destroyed the repository instead of enjoying nirvana, and while it did set me back i recovered due to settling two low hab worlds with my droids that only fed robot pops back into my 3 core worlds. That's rng since there won't always be planets to grab for that purpose, but it's how I bounced back. Kinda eager to try the choices I didn't make the first time.
@@Sarnith Ok im curious to know how you did that. The game does not make it clear at all what you need to do or what actually happens. Regardless i absolutely think its a good idea like i said to try all the choices and see what you like if you have time.
Yep. Its a matter of still having no pops, or going from like 1 Trans-Empire Species pop to 40 with the second choice. I prefer the bonuses from the building, because between the research/ traditions/edicts/council agendas you can do for pop growth its not that hard to get that 40 back while still keeping Identity Repository intact with its bonuses.
Also, now I don't know if this applies to most runs or if I just got lucky, but taking the genesis guides and galactic curators civics can be unbelievably busted with this origin. Guides gives you 500 unity and 25 influence for every new colony, multiplied by the number of colonies, plus part of the uplift tech, and each uplift gives you 1000 unity times the number of uplift you've done. That allows you to rush something insane unity wise, and get free biological species and pops to grow on your worlds in parallel of you researching the last robot tech (and then beyond). Curators allows you to get free specimen and a lot more stuff from them, and the geology specimen can outproduce your entire repository in engineering research by a significant margin, if you get the right ones.
Synthetic Fertility is arguably my favorite origin for both RP and just pure power. A few more things that I want to add - Each of the Synthetic advanced government types has a physical and virtual choice. The physical choice gives you access to the Modularity traits, while virtual makes your leaders immortal and gives you the virtual bonus ethic. No instant pop creation unfortunately. - Out of all the advanced government, the physical Democracy one (Democratic Transference) is my favorite simply because it adds +1% specialist output per district. I usually just end up stacking specialist output modifiers till I out produce everyone. - You talked about Dark Matter Engines, but the Dark Consortium civic just makes things even more stupid. Not only can you exploit Dark Matter from day 1, the Shadow Weaver council position gives your researches the ability to produce Dark Matter. And since you’re going to making a lot of research labs to finish the situation, now you have more than enough dark matter to use Dark Matter engines before year 30. - This is a bit of a min-maxer’s tip, but instead of assembling your main species pop, assemble robots instead and assimilate them into your main species. A bit of micromanagement yes, but that allows you to stack all the assembly speed modifiers without giving up on useful trait points. Good luck and have fun with this origin! All hail the Synthetic Dawn.
I just got back into playing Stellaris after a ~2 years break and I really loved this Origin but I wanted to do some guide viewing to get a good start on it, so much has changed since I last played LMAO! So, I'm curious, wouldn't going for a democratic gov with Parliamentary System civic be better? I mean, it will help you get the factions right at the start of the game, then you can change the gov traits, after 10 or 20 years was it? anyway, you can change them quite soon and you should be able to grab something better after, like Meritocracy, you can even swap to Oli instead of Demo. This would help a lot with unity gains eary on so you can one-shot the Synth tradition when you get around to it. Also, is it better to go for the virtual or modular option later down the line? I know virtual gives some good bonuses, but I can't find anything on the modular option... Another thing, what happens to your robot pops after you ascend? do you get a special project or something to asimilate them, do you just keep having them around and modify them separately? or is it hidden somewhere in a menu/situation out there? (The game got so many more new things since I last played LMAO). Anyway, thanks for the video!
Parliamentary system is a good pick, but since it takes a while to get to the synthetics tradition tree its a little bit overkill. In my experience, completing mercantilism and getting the unity from trade policy is more than enough to rush the tradition tree once you get it. I also really recommend Dark Consortium, although it cant be removed and definitely falls off in value later on, being able to immediately get the dark matter engines as soon as you ascend is insane. The council position isn't really worth it tho, unless you really need another scientist position on your council. As for virtual vs modularity, virtuality is better for empires that start as machines, and its completely busted with the ringworld origin, or if you go cosmogenesis. Modularity is imo more fun, and it lets you make some crazy pops. The robots function as normal, but since you wont be producing them later on they wont be a large part of your empire. Just be sure to set all your worlds to create your main species (or a special template of your species with max assembly speed, that you periodically modify into your main template)
Should i stack trait that boost engineering research at the beginning cuz it can reduce the time of waiting greatly Also Industrious or Ingenious more valuable in the early game synthetic fertility run?
To keep ur economy afloat for this build I’d recommend taking dark consortium and rushing out the council position and then just selling dark matter while you tank the energy credit penalties from max research. Also you can get 40% job output later on really easily due to the moddings.
So i did some research, if i am correct, unfortunately you must start as a machine empire to have access to it. Sadly an empire with synthetic fertility is considered biological, even though only for a short time, even with synthetic ascension. I will look more into this, but that is what i have found so far.
4:00 Note that this is no longer the case, now destroying the repository instantly turns all the identities into robot pops, which can be a considerable amount, while Nirvana leaves them in the repository. Given that I spawned next to a fanatical purifier and several fanatic xenophobes, I needed the resource and alloy production a lot more than science so I chose the second option without blinking.
Ok well hopefully that is the case. because that was pretty lame when i tried it and got nothing so my video reflected that. I'll need to play it again sometime soon. But yeah if thats the case then that option is completely valid, and is actually what i would probably pick as well.
@volairen I just did it so it seems to be the case (the only mods I have are for UI). However the origin is pretty busted. I'm not even into the midgame, on default settings and I'm already tier 3 cosmogenesis and have no idea what to do now XD
Best stellaris builds on the internet. please make more builds inspired by fantasy and stuff
Well actually i have come very close to doing a thematic builds series on several occasions. For example I would love to cover my personal build modeled after the orks from Warhammer 40k. The more comments i see like this the more inclined i will be to pull the trigger.
This is imo more op than virtuality. It’s basically that but you can go wide.
Yes great point thank you.
4:16 I like to leave my pops to die out, to get maximum bonuses from that building. Besides that, I think second option is stronger if you get all robot tech and tradition VERY fast, so bonuses from repository are small and it's better to build normal building + get pops back.
You may be right. All i know is that my research tanked hard every time i did that, and it did not recover after that.
@@volairen So when I gave this a try last week I destroyed the repository instead of enjoying nirvana, and while it did set me back i recovered due to settling two low hab worlds with my droids that only fed robot pops back into my 3 core worlds. That's rng since there won't always be planets to grab for that purpose, but it's how I bounced back. Kinda eager to try the choices I didn't make the first time.
@@Sarnith Ok im curious to know how you did that. The game does not make it clear at all what you need to do or what actually happens. Regardless i absolutely think its a good idea like i said to try all the choices and see what you like if you have time.
Yep. Its a matter of still having no pops, or going from like 1 Trans-Empire Species pop to 40 with the second choice. I prefer the bonuses from the building, because between the research/ traditions/edicts/council agendas you can do for pop growth its not that hard to get that 40 back while still keeping Identity Repository intact with its bonuses.
Also, now I don't know if this applies to most runs or if I just got lucky, but taking the genesis guides and galactic curators civics can be unbelievably busted with this origin. Guides gives you 500 unity and 25 influence for every new colony, multiplied by the number of colonies, plus part of the uplift tech, and each uplift gives you 1000 unity times the number of uplift you've done. That allows you to rush something insane unity wise, and get free biological species and pops to grow on your worlds in parallel of you researching the last robot tech (and then beyond). Curators allows you to get free specimen and a lot more stuff from them, and the geology specimen can outproduce your entire repository in engineering research by a significant margin, if you get the right ones.
You could be right i will check it out.
Synthetic Fertility is arguably my favorite origin for both RP and just pure power. A few more things that I want to add
- Each of the Synthetic advanced government types has a physical and virtual choice. The physical choice gives you access to the Modularity traits, while virtual makes your leaders immortal and gives you the virtual bonus ethic. No instant pop creation unfortunately.
- Out of all the advanced government, the physical Democracy one (Democratic Transference) is my favorite simply because it adds +1% specialist output per district. I usually just end up stacking specialist output modifiers till I out produce everyone.
- You talked about Dark Matter Engines, but the Dark Consortium civic just makes things even more stupid. Not only can you exploit Dark Matter from day 1, the Shadow Weaver council position gives your researches the ability to produce Dark Matter. And since you’re going to making a lot of research labs to finish the situation, now you have more than enough dark matter to use Dark Matter engines before year 30.
- This is a bit of a min-maxer’s tip, but instead of assembling your main species pop, assemble robots instead and assimilate them into your main species. A bit of micromanagement yes, but that allows you to stack all the assembly speed modifiers without giving up on useful trait points.
Good luck and have fun with this origin! All hail the Synthetic Dawn.
Thanks alot for the good tips! Maybe ill try for dark matter next sf (synthetic fertility) playthrough.
7:13 uhmmmm… the flavor text dossent really make sense for synthetic’s! They should really change it for syntheticlly ascended species!
Well personally i think the word fertility was kind of a weird choice. But hey i'm not the devs.
I just got back into playing Stellaris after a ~2 years break and I really loved this Origin but I wanted to do some guide viewing to get a good start on it, so much has changed since I last played LMAO!
So, I'm curious, wouldn't going for a democratic gov with Parliamentary System civic be better? I mean, it will help you get the factions right at the start of the game, then you can change the gov traits, after 10 or 20 years was it? anyway, you can change them quite soon and you should be able to grab something better after, like Meritocracy, you can even swap to Oli instead of Demo. This would help a lot with unity gains eary on so you can one-shot the Synth tradition when you get around to it.
Also, is it better to go for the virtual or modular option later down the line? I know virtual gives some good bonuses, but I can't find anything on the modular option...
Another thing, what happens to your robot pops after you ascend? do you get a special project or something to asimilate them, do you just keep having them around and modify them separately? or is it hidden somewhere in a menu/situation out there? (The game got so many more new things since I last played LMAO).
Anyway, thanks for the video!
Welcome back. Glad you found me!
Parliamentary system is a good pick, but since it takes a while to get to the synthetics tradition tree its a little bit overkill. In my experience, completing mercantilism and getting the unity from trade policy is more than enough to rush the tradition tree once you get it. I also really recommend Dark Consortium, although it cant be removed and definitely falls off in value later on, being able to immediately get the dark matter engines as soon as you ascend is insane. The council position isn't really worth it tho, unless you really need another scientist position on your council.
As for virtual vs modularity, virtuality is better for empires that start as machines, and its completely busted with the ringworld origin, or if you go cosmogenesis. Modularity is imo more fun, and it lets you make some crazy pops. The robots function as normal, but since you wont be producing them later on they wont be a large part of your empire. Just be sure to set all your worlds to create your main species (or a special template of your species with max assembly speed, that you periodically modify into your main template)
Well done
Thank you!
Should i stack trait that boost engineering research at the beginning cuz it can reduce the time of waiting greatly
Also Industrious or Ingenious more valuable in the early game synthetic fertility run?
I go with ingenious every time. But engineering research is the most powerful research type.
To keep ur economy afloat for this build I’d recommend taking dark consortium and rushing out the council position and then just selling dark matter while you tank the energy credit penalties from max research. Also you can get 40% job output later on really easily due to the moddings.
Can you do a video about origin tierlist?
@@WungierPL I definitely could. I played and done guides on enough i think. Thanks for the idea!
How do you go virtual with Synthetic Fertility?
So i did some research, if i am correct, unfortunately you must start as a machine empire to have access to it. Sadly an empire with synthetic fertility is considered biological, even though only for a short time, even with synthetic ascension. I will look more into this, but that is what i have found so far.
Is this an AI voice?
No, that's 100% natural baby.