Montana PBS: Trout Decline - The Problems & Solutions
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2023
- Montana PBS explores how trout numbers in three southwest Montana rivers are at or near historic lows. As Fish, Wildlife & Parks ramps up its effort to find the problem, local groups are also stepping in to help work toward solutions.
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Story by Joe Lesar
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There are so many factors to look at , but I feel the agricultural industry has a huge impact on these fishery , from the Chemicals, like herbicides, pesticides, hormones from livestock, toxins from fertilizers , the mining of resources all of this has a major impact , like the Human growth and development . I'm grateful these people are willing to take control and support because these fisheries , they need all the help and support they can get to project the future and respect what you love .
Look at New Zealand. And how they protect their fisheries. They only allow 2% of waste into their waters. Look at America. it's like 30% to 40% waste runoff. These practices need to change.
Not it's no ,.it's over pressure from anglers and diseases spread by anglers
I use to fish three rivers that were surrounded by agriculture. Keep in mind the fertilizer in this area was used beyond belief due to the poor soil. The three fisheries were incredible and they stayed consistent for the 8 years I went to them. It also had the best blue wing Hatches I've ever seen.
The point is, it seems way too convenient to blame agriculture, that is unless snow pack is low and the irrigation issues rise.
@@operationNOBOit may or may not be agriculture here, but unfortunately chemical intensive agriculture in most ecosystems is hugely destructive. Hopefully, farmers and universities can learn to build good soil, with less chemical inputs and more organic matter, it’s not easy i get that…
@TheNewMediaoftheDawn Thats what Im saying...the places I fished are absolutely not organically fertilized. Kind of surprising is all.
This is an interesting conservation conundrum because most of the fish are naturalized, but not native, save the small pops of grayling and cutthroat. Therefore the state will only protect these watersheds if it believes the economic benefit of nonnative species (all guiding tourism etc) is worth their benefit. In most conservation efforts the state is mandated by their own laws or those at a national level to protect a species. But invasive/nonnative (browns, brooks and rainbows in mt) species rarely have protections under law. Maybe if whitefish got protections or something there would be a stronger response from the state but they are poor gamefish. The “wild” but invasive trout conundrum!
People mishandle fish all the time. Just saw a party on the Beaverhead land a large brown and beat it up for 2 minutes just to get a pic. Could you hold your breath for 2 minutes after a hard fight?
Right! I just saw someone do that here in Minnesota with a rare hook jaw male and by the time they got it to the water it died. I just drove away in frustration. People don’t realize how delicate trout are. You can’t flop them on the bank and wrestle them around like you would with bass. You need the learn how to steer the fish into your net correctly and get it back in the water.
@@primer3458No offense, but if you're so worried about trout health then find a better way to have fun, rather than tricking dumb fish into biting a metal hook so you can drag them around in the water by their mouths, just to let them go and then pretend you're a hero for practicing kick and release.
I trout fish as well, but I'm in it strictly for groceries. If they're legal they go in the cooler. If I get a limit I quit fishing and leave the rest of them alone.
Kick and release is a virtue only in the minds of yuppy fly fishermen. The ignorance in this group is palpable
"Cows not condos..." I think the cows are also a problem there, big guy.
This IMO is happening everywhere. I live in Minnesota and two years ago I started to notice that some fish (largemouth bass in particulat) were emaciated (all head with a starved body). This year a river I have fished for 35 years started to show the same thing among the walleye population. But here is the salient thing, IMO: I wade into this river and for years and years I was used to seeing clouds of bait fish (minnows), but this past fall freaked me out: I saw only ONE minnow during approximately a dozen fishing excursions. I mentioned this observation to a group at a coffee gathering and I was told that the area of Minnesota that they fish they could not even purchase minnows because there were none. I heard an excuse that did not make sense to me about MN clamping down on minnow wholesalers, but then yesterday I heard a friend say that they often trapped minnows for personal use and this past summer was a bust. Obviously, something is going on and this is happening so suddenly and throughout the country. I have heard "climate change" and "farming practices" but those are weak attempts and do not explain the suddeness of this catastrophe.
Time to get airborne and start looking for pipes and tubes going into the water near heavily canopied forest areas!!! You might just be surprised!
I am in Lake Ontario watershed in NY. We had a few years of the browns particularly with lots of the fungus ick. They were dead like salmon on thd creek. Of course my fishery is nearly wholly artificial but its sad to see. A few yrs ago I caught both a brown and rainbow with deformed upper jaws and havent seen them before or since.
Courtesy of my son Frank. Farming up the watershed of the rivers would be the first place that I'd look. If you end up in large areas with only natural precipitation then you could go looking for aerosol contaminants. Unless they are very light molecules it would be hard for them to go too far. Are they burning anything lately over in Oregon or Washington state? Are there new factory emissions from Oregon or Washington state that could contaminate wind or rain?
Why would Washington or Oregon be the reason for trout health and population decline in central montana? Wouldn’t other rivers be effected the same way if that’s the case? Seems like a bit of a reach if you ask me, especially since there are thriving fisheries all over Washington, Oregon Idaho and Montana.
Takes time to figure these things out. Best of luck to you guys. ☮️🇺🇸 4:14
At my place in Idaho, I have seen a major crash in insect populations over the past few years to the point where some insects, largely pollinators , have completely disappeared. This has lead to the disappearance of many bird species such as the Swainsons Thrush that are insect eaters. I used to have a large annual population of Purple Martins that have disappeared. I assume it is because many local farmers are using toxic farm chemicals that are banned in other countries. I have to wonder if it is this sort of thing affecting the fish populations. The insects that the survive on are disappearing.
I'm a native Montana and I've fished all three rivers for more than 50 years and have seen the pressure grow to unbelievable levels...limiting pressure is really the only way to correct the issue...it can be studied to death but in the end the fish can't take boat load after boat load of fisherman passing buy...we hear constantly about "catch and release" but the reality is a 20" brown trout can only be caught so many times before it's dead...I live next door to the Yellowstone River downstream from Livingston and am seeing the pressure take a huge jump--sitting at East End Access a few weeks ago 23 boats and rafts passed by with fisherman and this was in one hour...the math is not really difficult...it may take limiting traffic on all rivers to really have a chance of maintaining a river at good trout numbers or repairing a damaged river system...finally, compare professional guide numbers today to what they were 40 years ago--a lot of money has been made exploiting a resource owned by the citizens of the state of Montana...
The guides refuse to acknowledge they are part of the problem. By no means am I saying I do not contribute to added stress on the fish, but I do my best to keep them wet and if I feel like grabbing a photo they’re out of the water for 5 seconds max. The fish handling etiquette is abysmal when clients have dry hands and pose for 20 seconds for their grip and grins.
I agree with your premise whole-heartedly. Fishing for steelhead most of all my 75 years as an angler I have seen the same foolish behavior by sports anglers, catching and releasing fish after netting them, picking them up, handling them ignorantly, for the photo-op, then “releasing” them. Then compounding the over fishing in the ocean by international factory processing ships, dams, pollution. It’s a wonder there are any fish at all. Here’s a novel idea: Stay OFF them for a couple years, IDIOTS!
The west is growing, fast. There's too many people on this planet. The only answer to wilderness existing as it is, is less people. We are the problem.
Couldn't agree more, Montana needs to do a better job of regulating commercial trout fishing, this from a former fishing guide. Back in the day a lot of guides would self regulate and some still do, but there's a certain element (certain outfitters) for whom this is about the money. Period. They'll scream and holler about their rights if you try to regulate them but all they're doing is exploiting the resource to the detriment of all. The price goes up as the quality goes down. The good news is the rivers can, and will, bounce back given the opportunity and it wouldn't even take that long.
Yup and not only fishing pressure. I live in Upstate New York in the Adirondack Mountains and in the 60s and 70s native brookies were ubiquitous. Then they built I-87 from Albany to Montreal and right through the eastern edge of the Adirondack Park. Development exploded and passed a tipping point sometime in the late 70s-early 80s. There aren't many places where they still exist and that's either because of extreme measures or distance from roads and trailheads.
It's also all the wealthy down-staters that have bought nice plots right on the water, built their McMansions and have manicured lawns and gardens with all the attendant runoff, especially after 9/11. Fear drove them up here in droves. And now local communities are building all sorts of town and county facilities with massive amounts of bright LED lighting and that's hard on insect breeding. Plus some madman at the state DEC thinks it's just dandy to dump BTI into waters around towns and hamlets to control black flies. You know, one of the main spring foods of trout around here.
It's a damn shame. Humans are so short-sighted...
In my younger days I was an avid backpacker and I made several trips to Montana, backpacking and trout fishing in the Custer-Gallatin National Forest. I'd fly into Billings and rive out to Red Lodge then take Beartooth highway and hit the trails. This was in the late 80s and early 90s and the trout fishing was insane. I remember the first time I hiked to Granite Lake, which is actually in Wyoming. After a half day hike I got to the lake, dropped my backpack and before setting up camp got my ultralight out for what I though would just be a few casts. I caugth 8 trout on the first 10 casts. Rainbow and brookies.
I stacked tons of hay in the Big Hole during my youth, and I’ve fished that river for 45 years, how do you produce a story about its health and welfare without speaking to one local rancher? There’s more to the issue than $600 a day guided floats…
I would agree, check out what they're spraying, in the alfalfa fields in the Big Hole valley headwaters area...always check what anti biotics the beef is consuming and pooping out....sh@t always runs downhill. Water temps don't help...Ag shouldn't run that part of the State...big wheat field farming up on the Highline, sure, but not in southwest Montucky. The State needs to up-date the water rights to modern climatic changes.
Looking at the number of fishermen as well as sediment chemistry? Could be a combination of handing and changes to sediment chemistry.
Awesome
They put alot of emphasis on the browns and rainbows but how are the cutthroat, grayling and whitefish doing?
Whitefish seem to be doing okay, though we're seeing them dead with lesions too. Cutthroat and grayling are strugling to the point they aren't counted in the mainstem rivers.
I'm an Aussie, always wanted to go to Montana and I have a great friend from there. We have so little good trout water here and if a disease like that showed up - people would go berserk. This is a Govt issue, it affects the economy in a huge way.
We have a huge problem with climate change as our trout fisheries are so small.
But, look at what New Zealand is doing about agricultural runoff. It is a big problem there.
Sure the climate change that is dropping your water level isn't Nestle filling their plastic water bottles?
It is.
these trips are aways the best absolutely love this kind of content. I do similar videos as well :)
My unscientific guess would be some kind of runoff is impacting the fish. Agriculture and ranching have had major impacts on water quality all over the West which has a direct impact on fish stocks. Also, 6PPD-Quinone has been horrible for Salmon in the PNW which comes from tires and could be a culprit as well. Hope that these collaborative efforts between government, guides and businesses, and non-profits can get to the bottom of this quickly.
The Montana FWP has studied fisheries to death. The more they say they need to fund an issue the worse it gets. There was a deliberate poisoning of the big hole a few years back that caused huge fish mortality. Was in the papers but not mentioned now. Flows have been great on the Big Hole for several years now. What is not mentioned relative to the issue of Brown and Brook trout die off is the deliberate attempts by FWP to replace with West Slope Cutthroat and promote Grayling. In fact some of the tributaries on the Big Hole have been blocked off to prevent spawning by non-native fish, and WSC's planted as replacements. It is a concerted - well funded pipe-dream. The end result being fewer number of all fish because the WSC do not adapt and thrive. Has been going on for years - Ted Turner poisoned Cherry Creek to start it off back in the 90's. FWP poisoned Crow Creek secretly to eliminate brook trout and plant WSC trout. End result of all this is a FUBAR fishery compared to what we use to have. It is the Dirty Little Secret with many groups in support with funding from out of State.
Wow, I'm surprised your comment has not been deleted. Your info is appreciated. Always some group with their ideas bleeping it up for the rest of us, the fish, the insects, etc. Windmills anyone? I'm from WI and love MT and have visited many times. There are shenanigans going on here too but at 66 I am finding more prolific fisheries here and in MI. I know Ted Turner did the west no good and would not put anything past him.
Utah had a similar program ten years ago. kill browns and replace with cutts. all on the down low.
just a make-work pipe dream of govt agency control freaks claiming to be restoring nature.
Just know that brown and rainbow trout are NOT native species in Montana. For years the fisheries were managed for trophy browns, of course the native species were going to suffer, and, eventually the introduced species will too. Add climate change drastically influencing water temps, excessive irrigation draws from the watershed, pollution, etc, and things don't look promising for cold-water fisheries.
Sounds like they trying to cash in on the tourists out fishing the famous waters wanting to catch more rare species of trout , I honestly think the fish and game needs to stop poisoning the waters that have a already good fish population , why kill em off , just find remote streams to put the endangered species , you don't have to poison the whole dam river, they did that here in New Mexico at costilla , to reintroduce the cutthroats but why put them cuttys up in alpines lakes and streams u don't have to poison the dam. Fish
There is a creek that was once a trophy brown trout fishery here in Utah and after a few years of low water and a complete de-watering there was a massive fish die off. The state decided to rotenone treat the creek to eliminate the remaining chubs that were causing major issues in the drainage. The state decided to replant fingerling browns, and apparently there were remnant Colorado River Cutthroat that survived that started to naturally spawn again over time. Fast forward to today, the state has spent thousands and thousands of dollars trying to replant browns for nearly 10 years that just can’t seem to get a hold on the spawning grounds. The cutthroat have completely taken the fishery back and actually eat juvenile browns now. Cutthroats are easily getting over 20in and I still do manage to catch some decent browns here and there. Lb for lb, They fight just as hard as any brown or rainbow I’ve caught in MT, CO, ID, or WY!
Sad to say…I won’t be fishing any of these rivers. IMHO …I am not a biologist…however my guess is this problem is MANMADE….and involves money….I hope I am wrong…
The likelihood that this is somehow chemical based is high and the fact that it is the brown trout population that is plummeting is just plain weird. Usually the cuttroat are the first to go, followed by the rainbows and lastly the browns.
Virtually all Montana rivers are seeing increased fishing pressure (sometimes greatly so), environmental degregation from encroaching development and climate change, and diseases such as whirling disease spread by anglers (which affects rainbows).
Yet it is these 3 rivers, *all in the same agricultural watershed*, that are seeing the brown trout die off.
The Big Hole River in particular is one of the most pristine rivers in all of Montana. No dams and minimal riparian development in comparison to other rivers of its size due to its remoteness. So the environmental degredation argument doesn't work that well for this river. The fishing pressure has been increasing for 20 years or so but it just feels like something else is going on.
Ditto for the Beaverhead which has a major interstate running right along side it and flows right through the town of Dillon MT. None of that ever mattered, the river fished like gang busters, until relatively recently.
And this year on the Ruby River you can barely buy a fish. I have yet to see the river completely clear up. It has been off color the entire summer and this is NOT normal. I was there today and it was green. It's late September folks. I don't know what's going on but something is not right.
For those of you wondering, I live in nearby Virginia City MT and have fished the Beaverhead starting in the 80's and the others for 25-30 years.
Your second paragraph is what my bet is on what's happening to the fish there , I've wanted to go there but doesn't sound like a good time at all :(
The never really talked about the part that agricultural runoff plays in this. I would imagine that there might be some big ranch's along the rivers.
Highly informative comment. I live in MN and I am seeing similar things. This past year was a real shock to my system, but in retrospect I think I started to notice this stuff around 10 years ago. Last summer/fall was the worst by far.
I chose not to fish this watershed when I brought my raft up this summer due to the low trout numbers and population in obvious decline. Instead we fished larger and healthier watersheds in an effort to keep pressure off that area. I hope that the trout population responds positively to last year's great snowpack. I also hope for another epic winter for powder days on the mountain
Smart. We did too, and I’m in the bitterroot. The guides have ruined everything
Also where is funding by the State of Montana? Or federal matching funds….Or the universities…?
The fish are nonnative, save small populations of grayling and west slopes. Nonnative fish are rarely protected at a state or national level even if they provide economic value. It’s conservation precedent. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t suck or couldn’t change
Get ahold of West Virginia University or West Virginia fisheries and Biologist..
Maybe they can help..
i hope this is a public shoreline fishery , not just shoreline access for the rich families, possibly that own cattle..that don't manage the runoff
Yeah I thought those rivers had bounced back from whirling disease in the 90s, too bad, headwaters should be good. Agriculture runoff, mining tailing ponds, grazing the shorelines, logging the shorelines or too many big clear cuts, are all places to look. Maybe contact British Columbia Canada, I believe their trout are OK, although I could be wrong…. Good luck🎉
Funny, these fish look similar to fish in freshwater in Florida from the nutrient releases from Big Sugar sugarcane plantations. Wonder if there is a common theme here?
I don't know anything about the Florida issue, but the fact is all three rivers are all in the same agricultural water basin but, apparently, not others that are nearby (like the Madison), this seems like the first place to look. Recent flows have not been that bad, especially this year. Yes, all these river have been getting pounded by commercial fishing, and Montana needs to do better in that regard, but that doesn't directly cause algae blooms and lesions.
@@guyturck2015 read up on big sugar algal blooms in Florida and look at the base minerals they find. They typically have a lot in common.
The fact that guides, outfitters and independent anglers in the area had to pool their resources to get anything done about this is telling. You’re welcome FWP, we’ll keep issuing fishing licenses on your dysfunctional system at no benefit to us.
@@jacobcarpenter4155beats a Democrat run state where murder, rape and robbery are legal but self defense is a crime.
In case you haven’t put two and two together, you need agriculture to support all those welfare kids democrats encourage wards of the state to have.
@@gregkosinski2303 you need the subsidies provided by blue states in order to pay for the farming equipment, seeds, crops, etc.
@@gregkosinski2303 keep drinking that Koolaid While the rivers end up with no life in them . Look at the Gallatin algae bloom problem that Montana is doing a 6 year study on below Big Sky and the Yellowstone Club. Right in six years the river will be so polluted fish won’t live in it anymore . It’s not a political problem it’s a people problem. Some people just want to ignore the problem and you know what , there not Montanans . They are developers who want to make our state better and commercial ranches that don’t really care about the environment that’s the problem. So while you spout off about left and the right and who’s fault it is our rivers are dying .
It doesn’t help that Montana’s rivers are pounded to death by the outfitters.
Bingo. The amount of rich out of staters i see on the waters these days, guides and outfitters pounding the same rivers every single day all summer long, catching fish over and over. QUIT COMMERCIALIZING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES FOR PAPER MONEY.
When the Last Tree Is Cut Down, the Last Fish Eaten, and the Last Stream Poisoned, Only Then Will The White Man Realize That You Cannot Eat Money
Exactly. They’ve ruined everything
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In most of such cases there is not one cause for the decline and diseases, but a number of causes: from lower snow melt and intensive agriculture to high fishing pressure.
One thing is sure: If brown trout are already declining, you have a BIG problem!
I find it mind boggling they didn't look at the most likely contributors - mining, extraction, or agriculture. Unexpected declines have always had ties with the industrial mistreatment of waterways.
Why we continue to coddle polluters and protect the unchecked wealth from that behavior is astounding.
Shame on PBS for making this issue just about concerned sportsmen who look helpless in their plight.
Don’t forget about geoengineering!
They have been sickened when Tucker Carlson went fishing there.
From the guys who brought you New Zealand mud snails.......
We have mandatory watercraft inspections. Need to have the same for waders and boots. Personal responsibility does not prevent community problems on the river ....
brown trout are evasive species anyway
Fertilizer.
to much traffic on to small of a river ... to many guides hitting the same stretch day after day catching the same fish .. and above all .. dewatering from ranchers which nobody wants to address.
Yep, until we stop letting outfitters destroy our woods and waters for profit, while the working man suffers and FWP gives them preeminence over the average joe, nothing will ever change.
Please. The only people who actually care about the rivers are guides and anglers. Nobody else would even notice if all the wild trout were replaced by carp.
@@DukeTrout anglers...not guides. Guides are in it for the money above all else.
@@whiteyfisk9769 I’ll say the same thing I say when people say scientists or teachers are “in it for the money.” There are no rich guides. They work their asses off, deal with a lot of jerks, do so with a smile on their face, and get paid about minimum wage once you factor in all the prep time they put into the job. Any guide who isn’t in it for the love of it is in the wrong line of work. And if you think we can take care of rivers while guides and anglers are pulling in opposite directions, then you’re…not very smart.
@@DukeTrout if youre not in it for the money, and truly in it for the fish, then you'll back off on bringing piles and piles and piles of nonresidents on the rivers. The fish cant handle this amount of pressure anymore. So if you truly care sbout fishing and fish, youd stop and just fish for personal...but you wont, youll continue guiding rich out of staters, harming our precious natural resources while locals suffer..why?? Because of the money and running elbows with these rich evil men, simple as.
I don’t wanna fish it I wanna photograph it other disciplines will flow from that such as bronzes paintings etc. etc.
I know Americans of a certain kind hate regulations, but as you can see they are clearly necessary.
High water levels will push trout down stream. Call Allegany state park in red house in New York Area the brook trout have the same fungus .water temperature is a. Big thing.
there is any easy solution to the problem, only fish for browns and leave the natives alone
Hmm an organsation is funded by an industry group that make theyre living off that resource organised as the state starts voicing concerns over crashing stocks of that resource being pr Ed as supplemental to state efforts? Or out to defend theyre use of a resource? I'm skeptical of this pr piece
More and more people moving into the river corridor, having fertilized lawns right up to the waters edge along with more leach fields.
Whitefish > Brown Trout
Perch > whitefish
@@fluteloop6737 I’m talking western streams and rivers in relation to non native Browns vs native Mountain Whitefish. Please delete your comment and remove your balls surgically.
Trout are insectivores. There is a general shortage of bugs.
Personally, I think you are correct.
There's also an overabundance of kick and release fishermen beating up on the trout for no good reason
It’s the big story of the last 30 years. Catch and release gets more popular, the hatchery fish don’t supplement wild fish anymore, the special interests have gotten their way, yet fish populations decline. It’s almost like those theories are just propaganda….because they are 😂. Hatchery supplemented put and take fisheries will always do better. It’s a fact that biologists love to ignore.
If you want to sell emotion, talk about climate. if you want to solve problems talk about the watershed that produces these rivers. For instance, typical densities of trees in a forest will aid the hydrograph to produce more cold water in summer. Overstocked forests spike flows in winter and reduce the spring run off season that clears out the algae beds seen in this video. Yes, increased sediment rates lead to algae when spring run off is too small to clear the channel. Everything else being equal, there is also phenomena like the Pacific Decadal Oscillation that produces natural cold wet cycles and warn dry cycles. We aren't going to do much about that variability, but we can look at the watersheds and land use practices. One example is to convert to an organic soil fertilizer where it is used in coarse soils. This keeps nutrients in the uplands much better than chemical fertilizers. The consequence of every river is decided by what happens in its watershed.
The are letting the hay farmers drain the rivers down to near nothing. These rivers belong to the Public, not the Farmers.
Maybe rethink the whole "catch & release" method. This is actually outlawed in many European countries and considered animal abuse. Imagine being hooked dozens of times, handled, photographed and "released" by dirty human hands over and over again! All for the "sport" of some privileged flyfishermen who pay big bucks to brag about their fishing skills.
Many fisherman - namely the catch and release crowd - like to preach ethics on how to properly and respectfully handle a fish once it has been landed. This, of course, comes after they have hooked it and fought it - “played it” in angler-speak - to exhaustion, in what has to be a terrifying experience for the fish. The hypocrisy is stunning.
Also known as Kick and Release, these yuppies think they're nature's heroes for beating up on fish, only to let it go die in the stream
The only people who could ever defend the salmonids properly were the people whose lives depended on them - no we are all complacent hobbyists now
"If the trout are lost smash the state"
Edward Abbey pukes in his grave at your lack of conviction
At some point people will have to realize this planets population is out of balance and its a trickle down to the ecosystems. We have way, way too many people in any place at any given time so the results aint gonna be good.
Catch a release is the issue.
*kick and release
As far as I'm concerned only native fish should be in these rivers
thank you
Get rid of the non native brown trout.
Maybe it’s the cows, not the condos, that are degrading water quality.
Wild but not NATIVE.
Stop blaming everything on climate change! There are bigger issues going on that cause this decline. As a Wisconsinite that loves Montana, I only hope the future of your state will bring more prolific trout waters and less Californians.
Thats ultimately what alot of current problems in Montana boil down to. We cant sustain this amount of people. But everyone has dollar signs in there eyes and wanna sell any postage stamp of lamd for 1000000 dollars. But much like Esau selling his brithright for scraps, it may get us something today, but it is coming at a much greater costs to Montana's future, which isnt looking good
Yes, they have to get the "climate change" scare into the story so they can get more funding. Notice that the actual evidence presented has no connection to climate change (the artist formerly known as "global warming"). A few years ago in Michigan, our DNR said one of the causes of the black bear population expanding into southern Michigan's more developed areas was global warming, basically ignoring that black bears live in Florida, Tennessee, the Carolinas, Alaska, British Columbia, Ontario, Maine, New Mexico, etc., pretty much the whole continent.
But it is climate change.
Stop. Burning. Fossil. Fuels.
I wish I could have land on a beautiful river in Montana and get money hand-over fist from a natural resource--and then when that natural resource is suffering because of all the stress my lively hood puts on it be blessed with Uncle Sam coming in to bail me out. 😂
Climate change, period. We can make excuses, turn it political, ignore science, believe conspiracies, and support unhealthy environmental corporations and we see this as a result. Vote for representatives who support environmental protections.
I'm glad climate change has decided to specifically focus on Montana
No, you Maga Trumper. It affects the whole world and this is just a part of it here in Montana. @@user-fl6nr7et8l
Stocking trout causes the demise of natural trout reproduction.
Montana hasn’t stocked rivers since the 70’s, only Grayling eggs are stocked in the tributaries of the Big Hole
Oregon hatchery is a model all states should follow
Too many people (many NILFs). Too many guides.
Trump lost
BTW - you are not getting "baseline" bug health data. Your surveys are too late - all the data you are getting is not baseline - its drastically altered from baseline.
I dont like fishing pressureed rivers with buncha rich old dudes , ill be out in the creeks away from the crowds, all the fish in private waters are pellet fed and need special passes and money to get in , not fun for me , people dont clean thier waders and all the fish got disease in the C and R sections of tailwaters
I fish here in South Texas. I had never fished for rainbow or brown trout until I went fishing in New Mexico. I had a lady chew me out because I cast into a stream and she asked if my line was new line or if I had used old fishing line that I used in a foreign body of water. She told me pathogens can be easily transferred reaping havoc.
@@tranger4579 it could be true, all those fish diseases come from foreign areas , anglers have money to travel the world, they are the ones who spread the diseases to the rivers , its the anglers spreading the toxic algae and diseases to these rivers and streams that are pressured every day , San Juan, cheeseman, Taylor 11 mile , all those rivers are infected
its chemicals ,utah rivers have too many browns
CHEMICALS! They will never admit it ! So their study is just a waste of your taxes.
Get rid of the guides. Everyone’s so f’n tired of them there’s way too many
Guides will evaporate as soon as Kick and Release fishing stops being glorified as a virtue, rather than the abuse it essentially is
@@fluteloop6737 yeah obviously, which if only growing and not seeming to "evaporate" anytime soon. Guide fishing continues to grow.
@@Paqq6969 Sadly
@@fluteloop6737 I know, it sucks to see. I floated a local river this weekend here in my state of MT and talked to the local warden, he said on average 17/20 of the boats are guide boats. He was just happy to to talk to a boat without numbers and see some locals out
The disease is off tackle,waiters,rafts and such. Or manufactured in CHINA?