Always love your vids! You take the time to explain everything you do and why you do it. Been following your car for a while and love to see every change you do. Thank you for the vid!
I will say, buying a larger, efficient wing wouldve been better, bcs gurney flaps increase highside pressure, but overall reduce efficiency. But this cost $40 and a large, efficient carbon wing could run around 20x that much. That being said, are you sure you endplates are optimal? Could potentially gain downforce and even improve efficiency (not reduce drag, just gain more downforce than drag) by optimizing them if they have room for improvement. However, if they came with the wing and you know that the company designed them well, or they came from someone who did their homework on them, there isnt anything to be gained. But if you arent sure about them, it be really cool to see you and kyle.engineers/jfk aero colab. Would be super rad to see kyle run some sim on your car, made recommendations, lightyear build it, then you run it and see what difference was made. Obviously that isnt realistic, but it would be super awesome to see as a series if you 3 were all in a position to make it a mini series with enough viewership to make a profit off of it.
Also would be interesting to hear an aerodynamicist speak on what angle the flap should be, perp. to ground plane, perp. to wing wing trailing edge, or, most likely, perp to airflow at flap height that is very close but not quite parallel to wing edge
I made it. It is flat sheet 'alumalite', cut to shape, and affixed to the trunk with automotive sikaflex adhesive. Let me know if you would like more detailed information.
@@Bbeavis thats amazing, i would love to see how you made it maybe along with specs. Id be more than happy to purchase some “blueprints” from you to make one of my own.
@@Jimmydoinstuff I hand made it on the car just by eye, so I never did any strict measurements or drawings on the design. But I may be able to measure it out on the car and get you some details.
@@Bbeavis thats awesome! To be honest if you sent me some more detailed pictures i could get a good idea. I appreciate you so much, i could then tweak it to my style and not entirely rip off your design.
I used to work with carbon a lot. It is abrasive, so it would chew up band saw blades quickly. We got a special carbide grit blade and it was magic-- at least until someone cut aluminum with it and gummed it all up. Moral of the story is composites work well with abrasives and carbide, but HSS cutting tools die a quick death in its presence.
Do you do any aero simulation of your car beforehand to see if it actually does anything for the wing for example? Can definitely imagine it's difficult to notice out on track, but maybe it's easier to see in a simulation? No clue how difficult that is though, just thinking out loud 😅
Maybe time for some analysis on track? Put some wool tufts on the underside and a GoPro, to see at which angle of attack it stalls out, especially now that you modded the wing profile. Keep it up!
Hey Joel, the wing element was made by a friend who has the tools and materials to work with small volume carbon fibre car parts. It is hand laminated carbon fibre wrapped around a foam core.
Thanks for the video. For the time you spent explaining how you cut the carbon fiber, I think it would have been better if you had recorded a video of you doing the actual cutting :) Thoughts for next time!
@@Bbeavis Yep. Just feedback when I compare it to watching channels like B is for Build, plus being a teacher thinking of the "show vs tell". Thanks either way, good information!
@@malice_wonderland I understand. For me I do not make videos for a job, I make them as a hobby. B is for build is trying to get views to make a profit. I make videos because I like to share my journey, its not a business for me.
Always love your vids! You take the time to explain everything you do and why you do it. Been following your car for a while and love to see every change you do. Thank you for the vid!
Awesome! Thank you!
"Giving things a go". That's what it's all about.
Thanks Davey.
Fun fact, the gurney flap is the only aero tech to have been invented in motorsport then used in aerospace
I will say, buying a larger, efficient wing wouldve been better, bcs gurney flaps increase highside pressure, but overall reduce efficiency. But this cost $40 and a large, efficient carbon wing could run around 20x that much. That being said, are you sure you endplates are optimal? Could potentially gain downforce and even improve efficiency (not reduce drag, just gain more downforce than drag) by optimizing them if they have room for improvement. However, if they came with the wing and you know that the company designed them well, or they came from someone who did their homework on them, there isnt anything to be gained. But if you arent sure about them, it be really cool to see you and kyle.engineers/jfk aero colab. Would be super rad to see kyle run some sim on your car, made recommendations, lightyear build it, then you run it and see what difference was made. Obviously that isnt realistic, but it would be super awesome to see as a series if you 3 were all in a position to make it a mini series with enough viewership to make a profit off of it.
Also would be interesting to hear an aerodynamicist speak on what angle the flap should be, perp. to ground plane, perp. to wing wing trailing edge, or, most likely, perp to airflow at flap height that is very close but not quite parallel to wing edge
"buying a larger, efficient wing wouldve been better" - perhaps, it would also cost a lot of money. This was like fifty bucks.
@@Bbeavis im very aware, said as such in the comment, just wanted to make sure the info was out there for any viewers
@@noncog1 I made the wing end plates myself, so I can assure you there is no clever engineering behind their design or shape 🙂
Cool editing and nice shirt
I'm glad you like it
Whats that trunk spoiler you have under your wing rhat thing is so sick
I made it. It is flat sheet 'alumalite', cut to shape, and affixed to the trunk with automotive sikaflex adhesive. Let me know if you would like more detailed information.
@@Bbeavis thats amazing, i would love to see how you made it maybe along with specs. Id be more than happy to purchase some “blueprints” from you to make one of my own.
@@Jimmydoinstuff I hand made it on the car just by eye, so I never did any strict measurements or drawings on the design. But I may be able to measure it out on the car and get you some details.
@@Bbeavis thats awesome! To be honest if you sent me some more detailed pictures i could get a good idea. I appreciate you so much, i could then tweak it to my style and not entirely rip off your design.
I used to work with carbon a lot. It is abrasive, so it would chew up band saw blades quickly. We got a special carbide grit blade and it was magic-- at least until someone cut aluminum with it and gummed it all up. Moral of the story is composites work well with abrasives and carbide, but HSS cutting tools die a quick death in its presence.
Thanks for the insight Nicolas, good information to keep in mind.
Do you do any aero simulation of your car beforehand to see if it actually does anything for the wing for example? Can definitely imagine it's difficult to notice out on track, but maybe it's easier to see in a simulation? No clue how difficult that is though, just thinking out loud 😅
Nothing has been done like that, I'm just a dude in a shed, nowhere near the skills or technology to be doing aero simulations.
Maybe time for some analysis on track? Put some wool tufts on the underside and a GoPro, to see at which angle of attack it stalls out, especially now that you modded the wing profile. Keep it up!
This i could do.
I've got some video of similar situations here:
ua-cam.com/video/40UoyIHxpsQ/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/ymvI_h1VwgI/v-deo.html
@@Bbeavis something like that would probably work great, with more focus on the wing :)
Did you make the wing too? I couldn't find a video where you mentioned the wing.
Hey Joel, the wing element was made by a friend who has the tools and materials to work with small volume carbon fibre car parts. It is hand laminated carbon fibre wrapped around a foam core.
AERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
should have my fastback in a touch over 2 months!
Good to hear.
Thanks for the video. For the time you spent explaining how you cut the carbon fiber, I think it would have been better if you had recorded a video of you doing the actual cutting :) Thoughts for next time!
I prioritise doing the work on my car first, making a video showing what I did is second.
@@Bbeavis Yep. Just feedback when I compare it to watching channels like B is for Build, plus being a teacher thinking of the "show vs tell". Thanks either way, good information!
@@malice_wonderland I understand. For me I do not make videos for a job, I make them as a hobby. B is for build is trying to get views to make a profit. I make videos because I like to share my journey, its not a business for me.
Do you wanna come to my youtuber meet up mate? 18th of March springvale? Drop me a line
Thanks for the offer buddy, that's probably not for me.
@@Bbeavisnot a worry we arrange a fair bit of sponsorship and free parts for builds