Bass DI blind test
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2020
- Blind test of 4 DI:
▼Behringer - Ultra-DI DI100▼
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▼Radial Engineering - JDI▼
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▼Rupert Neve Designs - RNDI▼
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▼A Designs - REDDI▼
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I almost died when the birds started coming across the screen
Great demo and I love your video editing!
For a live stage, they're all good enough. I have a Seymour Duncan "Paranormal" preamp/DI I got on sale many years ago, sounds wonderful. :)
That was interesting. Without drums, I liked B and C quite a bit. As soon as the drums were there, my clear favorite was A, closely followed by D. Thanks for that comparison.
A&D for sure sounded the best with drums. B and C got lost in the mix
The Neve and the JDI sounded best to me. I immediately recognized the Behringer (from other shootouts) because of the way it tends to accentuate a certain amount of mess in the upper mids. What surprised me was the lack of apparent difference between the Berhinger and the REDDI on this particular sample. If money were no object and I had to pick one based on this shootout, I'd choose the Neve, but they're all more similar than different.
Listening through my Sennheiser in-ear monitors, clearly A and D were the top in overall capture of sound. My preference as bass (electric & upright), cello, and keyboard player was definitely A. I was surprised and disappointed by how much the REDDI trimmed off the eq in certain ranges. For me, after several listen-throughs, the choice is clearly the RNDI.
Check the full shootout here: ua-cam.com/video/u7FiWYSBiYE/v-deo.html
C seems more glued to the bass drum, gives a more solid feel.
I always bring the Behringer just in case and end up using it most if not all the time.
I didn't hear much of a difference to be honest.
that editing tho.. so cool
I liked A the best, then D, and between B and C I couldn't decide for a winner. The Behringer is pretty good!
Beringer surprised me. And Radial just sounds so... Radial and good. My ear didn't gravitate to the higher end Reddi or Neve. I know they are more expensive, too, so I'd probably save a couple bucks for strings!!
No drums, i preferred B and C. In the mix D had a bit more clarity.
I’m late to the game here. D was my fav. I thought the lows were better represented. Funny because as it turns out, I own the JDI. I bought it because of the sound quality, yet is fairly budget friendly.
I predicted before I heard it that b was Bellinger.
Of course, the b is Bellinger's, lol.
I felt the c band was wider.
But they're all good, so I won't have any trouble in the field.
But...
I mainly use a Roland DI-1, because I'm Japanese. Sorry.
SHORT VERSION
• In solo, my preference was B, D, A, C.
• Drums added D, A, C, B.
• Overall: D is the winner.
DETAILS
A - (Rupert Neve Designs DI Box) In solo it sounds OK. I like the RNDIs definition in higher or midrange notes both in solo and with the drums. Blended with drums it sounds better but while certain frequencies sound beautiful, other frequencies, or during certain articulations, it starts sounding "Less than expensive" shall we say. The verdict? DECENT, but INCONSISTENT. Surprising for a $269 DI unit with a famous name behind it.
B - (Behringer Ultra DI | DI100) I am surprised and embarrassed to say I liked this in solo once. I liked how I felt I could hear some definition in solo. With drums added, it falls apart; It sound like someone recorded bass guitar on a "My First Fischer Price" cassette boombox. It sounds cheap, like a sonic version of a bad photoshop. No surprise. At $39 you get what you pay for. There are no shortcuts to sound quality in the music business.
C - (A Designs REDD DI) This sounds too bassy. Too boomy. After a second listening in solo, I give it credit for being more on the consistent side and with the drums it sounds consistently "less than expensive." Disappointing for a unit selling for $995.
D - (Radial DI w/ Jensen Transformer) This sounds like it has definition but also demonstrates a bit of "bass-iness" but is not as "boomy" as the REDD DI. It did not have the definition in upper or midrange notes the RNDI demonstrates but sound quality is consistent throughout and I can hear this fitting into a professional production better than The RNDI. VERDICT: DECENT and CONSISTENT. Good quality for a $219 passive DI box.
ADDITIONAL RESEARCH (SPOILER ALERT)
Researching different DI boxes I discover Sweetwater conducted their own DI Shootout which can be found here: www.sweetwater.com/insync/direct-box-comparison-bass-guitar/ Their shootout includes access to the Pro Tools session file for on-fly-comparisons, which I did practically phrase-by-phrase. They play a wide range of notes using two different basses. One P-Bass with roundwound strings, another P-Bass with flatwound strings, and a Music Man Stingray all going through a state-of-the-art studio equipment.
Via the Pro Tools session file, I compared the Radial JDI w/ Jensen Transformer (Option D) against the Rupert NEVE DI (Option A).
MY CONCLUSIONS REMAIN THE SAME
The Radial JDI w/ Jensen Transformer is more consistent and sounds like it more easily fits into a professional production. The Rupert Neve DI continues to show good upper and midrange definition but falls apart at lower notes and the DI output at lower notes remains inconsistent to upper or midrange notes (surprising for an active DI box). The RNDI is good but not quite as professional in performance or in sound quality as I was hoping for.
FINAL VERDICT
The Radial DI w/ Jensen Transformer is the winner. The Rupert Neve DI has its sweet spots, but in the studio we need consistency. I'll take a consistent A- performer any day over a performer varying from an A+ to B- grade in the same song.
You might enjoy the full shootout: ua-cam.com/video/u7FiWYSBiYE/v-deo.html
A did sound way better than B (anemic) then C had balls and saturation, finally D sounded good but somehow behind A. With drums A mixed good, B was a joke, C was holy smoke cash money record good, D was good but a close third.
Picked D but for $20 that Behringer Ultra sounds GREAT
C for me 🤘🏻
Neve for me, but for the C i did know it’s the behringer :DD
very Good
I'm surprised that the Neve sounds so thin...For the price the JDI is hard to beat imo
I really like the sound of the RNDI but that's Rupert Neve stuff, not classic Neve sound. I feel like the Rupert Neve gear is more modern and focused with a small touch of Neve vibe.
I think I preferred the JDI in this shootout. The low end is especially defined, with all the higher harmonics coming through and not sounding dark and distant.
The differences in sound are negligible other than a slightly different character. I don't think anyone would be able to correctly identify them consistently outside of an A/B test. For all practical purposes, go for the cheap one.
Yay dancing bird for the win
I mean, they all sound like DI bass
I prefer D.
Could Stevie Wonder give a hoop..
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neve win, more rich harmonic than JDI
Great demo! I don't hear any difference and the bird doesn't seem to either! I use a JDI and was considering the Neve RNDI but I don't think I will notice any difference based on your video.
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they are all the same :I
I really hear no difference. You might as well buy the cheapest. 😂😂
You're a messy player dude..
Edit: Not sloppy, messy.
Enlightening remarks 👌
@@BassStuff I promise, I'm not trying to offend. The playing made it tricky to ascertain things because of not fretting super well here and there.
No difference.
bass need a bloody good setup, sounds like arse. sorry, truth hurts : )
buzzing nastiness how god awful : (
I was not sure about doing it clean or more noisy like this. I chose to do it more dirty with full open tone to hear the clarity difference better. Sorry you don't like it :(
Well, this is really a matter of taste IMHO. When you listen to isolated bass parts of old classics, you can often hear that both the tone and playing are far from being perfect. And somtimes, you can even clearly hear that one string is out of tune or the setup is not that good. Is it a problem? Not always.
The goal here i think, is to show difference between thoses devices. It sounds like a dry DI take with lots of high to me and to compare DI its the easiest way in my opinion. Just my 2 cents! 😊
Nothing wrong with the setup, no bad buzz, out of tune etc. Just normal fret and string sounds. Grindy and meaty. Some like it, some don’t.
Really bad,no difference at all...