As 46 yrs old Gamer, I started lifting weights two months ago and eating right to improve my health and when your Fitness UA-cam Channel is ready just tell us when is ready.
If Intel was SLOWER, but said "We'll support the Socket and it's boards till 2030"...I would really consider Intel as an upgrade. Bonus would be to allow OCing on H and B-Series boards.
Hope that's not the case. I hope they will give me 4-channel DDR5 or 6 before 2030. I am totally willing to pay a new MB. 2-channel RAM is so outdated. Severs RAMs already increase from 8-ch to 12ch.
@@oswaldjh , We move forward though. 5800X/AM4 doesn't meat my requirement. If I need to process large amount of data, need higher memory bandwidth. If I want to run a local LLM, ddr5 is about 2X faster than a DDr4/5800x system, because DDR5 memory is about 2X faster. If DDR5 MB had 4-ch, LLM would have run 4X faster DDR4 2-ch system.
@@Fordance100 I know right ? I can't believe that even with $700 CPUs with 32 threads, they are still only on 2 channels WTF. Meanwhile Apple with the M Ultra chips (the highest end ones) have 16 !!! channels. 1024 bits. Come on AMD and Intel, step it up. With CAMM 2, we should see more widespread adoption of 4 channels though. 6 channels would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath for it. For now the only confirmed thing we have is the Strix Halo APU which will use 4 channels (obviously a requirement to have its 40 CUs minimally fed)
I'm curious how well will RTX 5090 fair. Because realistically, all CPUs from R5 7600 and i5 13600K upwards are totally fine for gaming and very few people really need more. Though, of course, some people buy a CPU for 5-10 years, and in that timeframe it will certainly matter to get the better one.
@@sneedsneed460 I'm running a Xeon and have never owned AMD so I'm not a fanboy ik just someone paying very close attention to leaks, rumors and tends.
I'm pretty excited for it, my 12700K is still serving me well but I'm getting the build itch... and the potentially 48-60 pcie lanes on Z890 boards sounds perfect for someone like me who likes to add a bunch of crap to my board such as a sound card and fill every nvme slot that should guarantee I'm not cutting down my gpu to x8 😂
Have you heard anything about the Zen 5 G series Processors? im *very eagerly* waiting for a strix point or strix halo chip for my living room gaming build. are we going to have to wait a year like we did for the 8000G series? or will it be some time this year?
I can't wait man, I love intel I will not switch sides I didn't care about 10fps when my Intel experience is buttery smooth. I am and did skip the 14th gen for the wattage and heat issues but let's see what 15th gen does! My 13700k is a beast already. Plenty for my 4080 super.
As someone who really appreciates high IPC with minimum latency, I am very much looking forward to Arrow Lake. I was planning to upgrade to a 13700K for the first time in many years earlier this year, but I think I'll wait for ARL to drop. I would've gone down the new Xeon chips route with a 12-16 P-Core only chip with quad channel DDR5 if the prices weren't just beyond my budget. It's a shame they didn't continue their HEDT X-series line from X58 (my first ever DIY build back when I was a teenager) till X299 with the new lower core-count Xeon chips that fulfill that same purpose, just without the mainstream price/availability.
Arrow Lake and Lunar Lake should certainly deliver on that minimum latency thing, what Tech YES city tested some time ago. Though you never know. I am curious as well to see how will they perform.
I just started a couple of months ago and I have a barebones gym to use at work so I'm really waiting for the other channel. One tip. Some times I find myself dozing off with the stock footage and you talking so I think for the channel to be a success I'd like the visuals to always match what you're talking about. This is a thing I should have commented way earlier but looking at some last gen footage of some cpus while you talk about the next one just really puts me in the mood of not paying any attention. Thanks for the videos, I hope to see more soon.
Just remember, when it comes to fitness, the best place to start is always go up to the biggest rock and try to lift it. It's a standard tradition that goes back hundreds of thousands of years 😁
So basically the Intel20A+TSMC Arrow Lake are toast even for the low end, replaced by Intel4+TSMC/Intel7 Meteor Lake/Raptor Lake refresh. Edit: Aha, more info. So Intel3+TSMC Meteor Lake refresh will only take the place of originally rumored Intel20A+TSMC low-end laptop Arrow Lake. Low-end desktop Arrow Lake (i5 non-K and below) will remain Intel20A+TSMC. All high-end Arrow Lake desktop/laptop are still on N3B.
Got a narrow opportunity to upgrade so I pulled the trigger on a 7700X bundle at Microcenter, also got a 4080 Super. Helluva leap from a 9700K/2070 Super. I'm just watching from the sidelines right now. Not expecting to need to upgrade my CPU for years unless something truly crazy happens.
Somehow this is the only the only presumption thanks to Intels track record past 4 generations😂 Hope they finally manage to do smting decent even great with 125-175 W TDP
@proxis9980 It's not, but keep coping I guess. I'm hoping to see an increase in efficiency with this new architecture. I may have an AMD processor now, but I look forward to the day I switch over once again.
I'd love to see how a cpu without HT will gain 40% MT this gen. cough BS cough. It's bit like last year's leaks saying Mediocre Lake was going to get 15% IPC, then 8% IPC and ended up at -/+1%.
My cpu is a Intel Core 13600k with 2x16 Go DDR4 (3600) RAM. Since i game on a 1080P, GPU : Asus Strix RTX 3070 ti (OC). So i'm good for the next 2 years. But i plan to upgrade in 2026 for a Zen 6 X3D CPU. For my GPU, it could be a RTX 6080 Super.
expected to be TSMC N3 for the compute tile, but AMD is expected to use TSMC N4X which is actually not very different than N3, maybe 3% performance or so.
Why do we need E cores in a desktop? Waste of die space, just make a big CPU with P cores only, leave the E cores for laptops, in a desktop i want full power, no compromises
Why do they want to add more ‘E CORES’ on 14900k cpus ? When you buy an i9 cpu the last thing you are thinking about is efficiency. I could be wrong but I want power when I buy an i9 not efficiency, I would buy a 14600k or an amd cpu if I wanted efficiency.
So far according to the latest leaks about Zen 5 the 9900X is looking to be 10% faster than a 14900K in Geek Bench 6.2 single thread score, making the 9900X 4% faster than a 7800X3D if the Geek Bench single thread scores translate well to gaming performance. And we can possibly expect the 9950X to be an another 5% faster so overall 9950X would be 15% faster than the 14900K. So Intel better have the Core Ultra 9 285K to be at least 15-20% faster than the 14900K if they wanna stay competitive.
Those tests are not always true at all. No one even has real reviews of the 9900x. We already know that the 7800x3d is faster than the non x3D 9000 CPU’s in gaming. Which is why the 3D variants are launching sooner.
@@ZackSNetwork True or not, it's the only performance leak we have so far about Zen 5. Also AMD just recently came out of the shadows and claimed they are increasing the 9700X TDP to 120W to match a 7800X3D.
@@ZackSNetwork AMD also claimed that the 9950X and 9700X will come really close to the 7950X3D and 7800X3D so I don't doubt that the 9900X could be as fast or slightly faster than a 7800X3D
ill believe amd's numbers once the embargo lifts and techtubers are able to do their thing. you cant trust amd at all considering the stunt they tried to pull with their 5800xt and 5900xt claiming they were faster than the 13600kf and the 13700k when hardware unboxed absolutely destroyed that lie.
There is no Q steps just to be released and they somehow expect it to be launched in a couple of months, thats very rushed and very strange. Intel back in the day would release Qualification chips months in advance of a new socket launch. Intel must either be really shaken up or this is a panick launch. Note we are in July right now. Lets hope that whatever they bring out its going to be good enough to compete. I'm just not wanting another 13/14 debacle..
I feel like every year someone says Intel is back with a powerful/excellent chip and every year they’re not lol. AMD have been killing them with the release of Ryzen in 2016. And really hit their stride with the 3000 series in 2018 and introduction of X3D chips in later years.
Well, that's not necessarily true. Intel was ahead of AMD in gaming until AMD released the X3D variants of Zen 4. When the RTX 4090 first released nearly 2 years ago, I had to buy the 13900K because it was the king of gaming CPU's in 2022 and was also the only CPU to not bottleneck the 4090 at that time. I would've waited for the 7000X3D chips if I knew they were coming later. However, the Raptor Lake i9 processor does perform better than the Zen 4 X3D processors in certain games and in most productivity apps, but they perform very identically when playing games in resolutions higher than 1080p anyways.
If the Zen 5 X3D processors offer significant gaming performance in 1440p ultra-wide resolution compared to what Intel offers, I will buy one of them for sure.
AMD is a better bet for platform longevity. Just look at AM4 and if AM5, is half as good. AMD is still a better bet look at intel you only get two generation at best platform so we be see AM4 -AM5 motherboard and CPU standing the test of time long after Arrow lake has been and gone.
Still more than happy with my 13900. I'll probably wait for the 16900 in early 2026 to upgrade. I never get the first gen of any new radical architecture change. Though I am looking to upgrade to a RTX 5080 early next year.
These specs and projected performance numbers are not good for Intel. A regression in clock speed (say goodbye to 6GHz!), a likely regression in power consumption due to the limitations of TSMC’s process node, a regression in memory support to just 6400MT/a, and a reduction in available threads due to the elimination of SMT. This all spells disaster to me unless they get absolutely massive IPC increases. But even if they do get massive IPC, where is it going to come from, and will the CPU’s be bottlenecked by memory bandwidth? For single thread performance, it looks like 3-8% uplift over 13th Gen (not even 14th Gen!). Granted that slide is a year old and the figures were projections before the first chip came back from TSMC… but still. For single thread tasks or ones that are limited by single dominant thread performance (eg gaming), this looks like a complete dud to me. Perhaps multithreaded applications will do better if the power consumption and clock speeds are greatly improved on E-cores, but absent that this entire architecture leaves a lot to be desired. This is a train wreck in the making…
Atleast research on the topic before commenting or don't comment Arrow lake will be on 3nm, a huge upgrade from 10nm of Raptor lake and even better than 4nm of amd 9000 series. Efficiency was the only problem and will be solved after this
on a 9900k right now with rtx 3080, been waiting years for a meaningful upgrade. Im still gonna holdout after arrowlake release to see what ryzen 9000 x3d chips are capable of for gaming and then gut my current machine and slap in all these new parts.
About half a decade ago I got into computers and built my first computer.... 5900x 6900xt Asus dark hero board got it dialed in with a custom Waterloop. It's overclock to 4.7 all core and 5.150 pbo. And it has done that the whole time. I built my second computer 13900KF 4090... Overclocked it and it's slowly degraded. When I first got it it would do 6.1 of one core 6.0 on 2 cores 5.9 on the rest. Now it only do 5.9 on 3 cores and 5.6 on the rest. Is this just the luck of the draw with what components I got and silicon lottery or is this just how it is and Intel slowly degrades and AMD doesn't?
If it looks too good to be true, chances are that Intel will rip you off like 13th and 14th gen scandal(the performance on normal Wattage not being able to defeat AMD 7000 Ryzen series at all... At least without your CPU literally dying within 1 to 2 years)
Well, I had my intel 8700k for 5 years and it didn't fail me. Sold it and upgraded to intel 13th last year and hopefully will last the same. I had rx570 before and jt gave me headaches so I tried rtx 3060ti. It's not perfect but a lot better than the radeon by a mile in terms of support and lesser bugs. My relatives have the ryzen G version with igpu and it's super buggy. Don't know why. I haven't tried AMD cpus before but I bet it needs a lot of tinkering to work properly with some apps.
??? no offense but you realy need to get your head out of the youtubebuble :D cheeres form a 7950x3d user....the highest end possible is 14th gen for quiet a while....and reducing the core voltag is actualy what gets you the best performance i.e. NOT pushing thousands of watts throu the cpu......the failure with them dieng is EXCLUSIVLY a mb manufatory problem....ive yet to see a failed processor that wasnt run under asus and msi stupid autooverclock shenaningans at 1,6v.....the average power conusption from a normal mixed workload + gaming ....the intels actualy win ....becasue amds sleep state managment is HORRIBLE ...always has been with ryzen....currently most fair competetion between gens sincew ages.....somehow intel not totaly wiping the floor with amd nis them loosing and you guys realy nbeed to drop that attitude......
I'm building a new PC right now and I'd like to go with Intel for the Quick Sync, but I'm not as confident in intel based on what I've seen of Gen 13/14 as well as their relatively short socket lifespan. So I settled on AMD Ryzen 9 9950X this time around and we'll see what happens. No brand loyalty from me, just timing and performance.
My 13900 non k runs like a dream. Uses between 60w to 120w during gaming depending on the game. Only time it even goes above 200w is during CPU multicore benchmarks or when taking 3D scans and turning them into highly detailed meshes. I get a score of about 37k in Cinebench which is pretty good.
I have a suspicion next gen of both AMD and Intel will suck a bit, since they focused on adding that stupid AI. And it's not even really AI yet. Just a copy pasta of big data. We have seen wasted silicon before. My hopes go for the next next gen on a better node.
If Intel removed hyper threading from Arrow Lake I think Arrow Lake will fall behind AMD's 9000 series in multi core performance. Hopefully Arrow Lake will have a decent bump in single core performance over their 14 gen. and also deminished power consumption. We'll have to wait for benchmarks and reviews once it has finally been released.
Until Intel learns to fix their Shit or gives us a system that works right i see no reason to jump back on the next genreation of Intel. they got it right w the 10th generation
What I got from this video is that dude has some muscles and wants us to know it. And something or other about Aaron Lake.
Error Lake!
We know that for like 10 years since he started showing his face, he is very shy actually.
🤣🤣 yes Exactly 💯 .
He is about to start his helth and fitness channel 🎉🎉🎉.
Captain obvious strikes again, you are wise beyond your years
This guy gets more muscular for every rtx 50 series rumor he does a video about!...
...Fair. I'd release them every day too
His pipes or a 5090 releases everyday, that would eliminate all the FUD.
As 46 yrs old Gamer, I started lifting weights two months ago and eating right to improve my health and when your Fitness UA-cam Channel is ready just tell us when is ready.
the muscles are to support the arrow lake power right? 😄
Bro ascended to Super Saiyan
Broly'sGamingTech
@@eddieneedsboostyou guys gon kill me with laughter😂😂😂
If Intel was SLOWER, but said "We'll support the Socket and it's boards till 2030"...I would really consider Intel as an upgrade. Bonus would be to allow OCing on H and B-Series boards.
Hope that's not the case. I hope they will give me 4-channel DDR5 or 6 before 2030. I am totally willing to pay a new MB. 2-channel RAM is so outdated. Severs RAMs already increase from 8-ch to 12ch.
@@Fordance100 AMD AM4 I started with a Ryzen 5 1600 ( 2017 ) to Ryzen 7 5800X3D ( this year ) on the same socket.
If AMD can do it...
@@oswaldjh , We move forward though. 5800X/AM4 doesn't meat my requirement. If I need to process large amount of data, need higher memory bandwidth. If I want to run a local LLM, ddr5 is about 2X faster than a DDr4/5800x system, because DDR5 memory is about 2X faster. If DDR5 MB had 4-ch, LLM would have run 4X faster DDR4 2-ch system.
@@Fordance100 I know right ? I can't believe that even with $700 CPUs with 32 threads, they are still only on 2 channels WTF. Meanwhile Apple with the M Ultra chips (the highest end ones) have 16 !!! channels. 1024 bits. Come on AMD and Intel, step it up. With CAMM 2, we should see more widespread adoption of 4 channels though. 6 channels would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath for it.
For now the only confirmed thing we have is the Strix Halo APU which will use 4 channels (obviously a requirement to have its 40 CUs minimally fed)
BRO. I had no idea you were so JACKED!
He overclocked himself
i did alcanez solo but not the last boss
that dark cat really means effort, iirc i left it levelling on laptop for like 2 months
Currently running a 5950X and not feeling the need to upgrade yet, it's still a beast.
For years to come actually (unless you really really really need #AVX512)
Yeah I didnt upgrade from my 3900X to the 5950X but if I did right now its still a great upgrade.
I have 5950x it would have to be big gains for me to upgrade this system.
I'm still running my old dual Xeon workstation and it runs everything
I have a 5950x and I'm absolutely upgrading! I need more POWA! I need that single core performance and more PCI lanes. I'll prob go with a 9950x3d.
The 9800x 3d is going to wipe the floor in gaming with everything
Intel is the new under puppy. 😂
I'm curious how well will RTX 5090 fair. Because realistically, all CPUs from R5 7600 and i5 13600K upwards are totally fine for gaming and very few people really need more.
Though, of course, some people buy a CPU for 5-10 years, and in that timeframe it will certainly matter to get the better one.
@@Winnetou17 if you want to game at 1440p ultrawide with Ray tracing enabled you need a Minimum of a 7700x paired with a 4070ti super for 60+ FPS
Zen 5 is disappointing compared to ARL, and you have no way of knowing if X3d will be faster. You fanboys are a plague to the PC community
@@sneedsneed460 I'm running a Xeon and have never owned AMD so I'm not a fanboy ik just someone paying very close attention to leaks, rumors and tends.
"If the rumors are to be believed" is code for "I don't have any real news".
Someone's been in the gym.
Let's hope intel can create some real competition to AMD, they're starting to behave like intel did back in the day.
Intel is finished dude. It will have the same fate as IBM.
@@Ignisan_66 No rumors spreading, OK?
I'm pretty excited for it, my 12700K is still serving me well but I'm getting the build itch... and the potentially 48-60 pcie lanes on Z890 boards sounds perfect for someone like me who likes to add a bunch of crap to my board such as a sound card and fill every nvme slot that should guarantee I'm not cutting down my gpu to x8 😂
Seriously a sound card in 2024 for a high end motherboard.
@@ZackSNetwork I'm a PC boomer leave me alone! 🤣 plus it has RGB!
Get an external USB DAC/AMP and decent headphones, You won't go back to motherboard sound or sound cards.
Wait for intel ultra 485K
It has 3 Rd gen desktop NPU
Wait till windows 12
It need 40 TOPS
Or
Wait for
Ryzen desktop 10000 generation.
Have you heard anything about the Zen 5 G series Processors? im *very eagerly* waiting for a strix point or strix halo chip for my living room gaming build. are we going to have to wait a year like we did for the 8000G series? or will it be some time this year?
I can't wait man, I love intel I will not switch sides I didn't care about 10fps when my Intel experience is buttery smooth. I am and did skip the 14th gen for the wattage and heat issues but let's see what 15th gen does! My 13700k is a beast already. Plenty for my 4080 super.
He said " Gracemont " . isn't it Skymomt?
Gracemont is Alder Lake! 🙂
As someone who really appreciates high IPC with minimum latency, I am very much looking forward to Arrow Lake. I was planning to upgrade to a 13700K for the first time in many years earlier this year, but I think I'll wait for ARL to drop. I would've gone down the new Xeon chips route with a 12-16 P-Core only chip with quad channel DDR5 if the prices weren't just beyond my budget.
It's a shame they didn't continue their HEDT X-series line from X58 (my first ever DIY build back when I was a teenager) till X299 with the new lower core-count Xeon chips that fulfill that same purpose, just without the mainstream price/availability.
Arrow Lake and Lunar Lake should certainly deliver on that minimum latency thing, what Tech YES city tested some time ago. Though you never know. I am curious as well to see how will they perform.
Intel arent the only ones making GAINS
30% IPC increase just like Zen 5. 👍 😂
Wait, wasn't that 40% ? :))
Holy shit hes jacked, stop overclocking your self bro
Really looking forward to the new channel!! Keep up the great work! :D
I just started a couple of months ago and I have a barebones gym to use at work so I'm really waiting for the other channel. One tip. Some times I find myself dozing off with the stock footage and you talking so I think for the channel to be a success I'd like the visuals to always match what you're talking about. This is a thing I should have commented way earlier but looking at some last gen footage of some cpus while you talk about the next one just really puts me in the mood of not paying any attention. Thanks for the videos, I hope to see more soon.
Just remember, when it comes to fitness, the best place to start is always go up to the biggest rock and try to lift it.
It's a standard tradition that goes back hundreds of thousands of years 😁
Hopefully Intel chips won't need a ton of power (and produce a lot of heat) while being competitive. Thumbs up!
Everybody wants a taste
So basically the Intel20A+TSMC Arrow Lake are toast even for the low end, replaced by Intel4+TSMC/Intel7 Meteor Lake/Raptor Lake refresh.
Edit: Aha, more info. So Intel3+TSMC Meteor Lake refresh will only take the place of originally rumored Intel20A+TSMC low-end laptop Arrow Lake. Low-end desktop Arrow Lake (i5 non-K and below) will remain Intel20A+TSMC. All high-end Arrow Lake desktop/laptop are still on N3B.
Got a narrow opportunity to upgrade so I pulled the trigger on a 7700X bundle at Microcenter, also got a 4080 Super. Helluva leap from a 9700K/2070 Super. I'm just watching from the sidelines right now. Not expecting to need to upgrade my CPU for years unless something truly crazy happens.
With such a big node jump it was to be expected
Arrow Lake Looks UNREAL! Over 9000 TDP
its on the new node TDP is almost exlucisvlyx decided by the production node ....
Somehow this is the only the only presumption thanks to Intels track record past 4 generations😂
Hope they finally manage to do smting decent even great with 125-175 W TDP
probably power consumption will be over 500W
Dumb comment with its new node process and new architecture it will be a lot more power efficient.
@proxis9980 It's not, but keep coping I guess.
I'm hoping to see an increase in efficiency with this new architecture. I may have an AMD processor now, but I look forward to the day I switch over once again.
I'd love to see how a cpu without HT will gain 40% MT this gen. cough BS cough. It's bit like last year's leaks saying Mediocre Lake was going to get 15% IPC, then 8% IPC and ended up at -/+1%.
My cpu is a Intel Core 13600k with 2x16 Go DDR4 (3600) RAM. Since i game on a 1080P, GPU : Asus Strix RTX 3070 ti (OC). So i'm good for the next 2 years. But i plan to upgrade in 2026 for a Zen 6 X3D CPU. For my GPU, it could be a RTX 6080 Super.
Hey Red I hope you read this.
I thought the 6p 8e part was still based on Intel's lithography. I think Intel 3.
Yo, dude cut up lol
Hahaha your muscles are back! I am glad to see the gains.
X870E won’t be available at launch of Ryzen 9000
whats looking more exciting Intel or AMD this year?
AMD with the Zen 5 X3D
Intel with Lunar lake and Arrow lake
Definitely AMD. Im tired of Intel's shenanigans
Will Arrow lake be unstable as 13&14th gen
I haven't watched your channel in a short while and now you are built like a brick sh*t house. Well done mate 👍
Keep the gains coming !!
Let's see how much performance we are getting
On 3nm node EXTREMELY MASSIVE‼️
16 cores of pure e-core low performance and 8 normal cores to have selling point
1024 cores
@@Serandi1987 isnt it on intel 3, is intel 3 , 3nm?
expected to be TSMC N3 for the compute tile, but AMD is expected to use TSMC N4X which is actually not very different than N3, maybe 3% performance or so.
Why do we need E cores in a desktop? Waste of die space, just make a big CPU with P cores only, leave the E cores for laptops, in a desktop i want full power, no compromises
Dude lifts and is into tech? Probably a cool ass guy.
what happened to Zen5 35% ipc gains dawg?
Looking at some benchmarks It really seems like It is true, not gaming too sadly but great still.
The gains obviously went somewhere else 💪
Fitness beginner channel? Paul my dude, preternatural timing 👍🏻
what's the fitness channel going to be called? RedTrainingTech?
Either the older videos were misleading or my guy's been making gains, even his voice got deeper to match the presentation
Why do they want to add more ‘E CORES’ on 14900k cpus ?
When you buy an i9 cpu the last thing you are thinking about is efficiency.
I could be wrong but I want power when I buy an i9 not efficiency, I would buy a 14600k or an amd cpu if I wanted efficiency.
I’m excited to see your new channel
Never realized the dude was so buff!! Lol!!
So far according to the latest leaks about Zen 5 the 9900X is looking to be 10% faster than a 14900K in Geek Bench 6.2 single thread score, making the 9900X 4% faster than a 7800X3D if the Geek Bench single thread scores translate well to gaming performance. And we can possibly expect the 9950X to be an another 5% faster so overall 9950X would be 15% faster than the 14900K.
So Intel better have the Core Ultra 9 285K to be at least 15-20% faster than the 14900K if they wanna stay competitive.
Those tests are not always true at all. No one even has real reviews of the 9900x. We already know that the 7800x3d is faster than the non x3D 9000 CPU’s in gaming. Which is why the 3D variants are launching sooner.
@@ZackSNetwork True or not, it's the only performance leak we have so far about Zen 5. Also AMD just recently came out of the shadows and claimed they are increasing the 9700X TDP to 120W to match a 7800X3D.
@@ZackSNetwork AMD also claimed that the 9950X and 9700X will come really close to the 7950X3D and 7800X3D so I don't doubt that the 9900X could be as fast or slightly faster than a 7800X3D
ill believe amd's numbers once the embargo lifts and techtubers are able to do their thing. you cant trust amd at all considering the stunt they tried to pull with their 5800xt and 5900xt claiming they were faster than the 13600kf and the 13700k when hardware unboxed absolutely destroyed that lie.
Homeslicezenesszah, I think its time to upgrade to ddr 5, 6400 and up?
Currently running a 5820k and telling myself this is gonna be the year
I downgraded from an i9-9900K to a i7-5930K (long story). I'm checking these Arrow Lake rumors daily. :P
Where did those muscles come from???
Does it come with 10 million GB of trust? Its going to need it.
As expected. Wait until 9000x3d is discounted, other chips follow the trend and then decide which gives best gaming performance for the money
THE NUMBERS. WHAT DO THEY MEAN??
Can't wait for his side channel, RoidGainingTech
Best comment 😂
The comment section is pathetic.
Bro is jacked and giving us the business in tech!
There is no Q steps just to be released and they somehow expect it to be launched in a couple of months, thats very rushed and very strange. Intel back in the day would release Qualification chips months in advance of a new socket launch. Intel must either be really shaken up or this is a panick launch. Note we are in July right now. Lets hope that whatever they bring out its going to be good enough to compete. I'm just not wanting another 13/14 debacle..
Problem is Intel is in panic mode for 7 years already. And it doesn't look like it'll get any better soon.
To win AMD simply adding npu part as well if can.
I don't believe the rumours.
Buy the rumor, sell the lie? Are you a day trader?
Probably won't beat ryzen 9000 x3d in gaming even if it's better then regular ryzen 9000. Just my guess
Ok, didn't know this guy was jacked!
Hopefully it doesn't use 400 watts
Nice shirt man, keep up the good figure!
I feel like every year someone says Intel is back with a powerful/excellent chip and every year they’re not lol. AMD have been killing them with the release of Ryzen in 2016. And really hit their stride with the 3000 series in 2018 and introduction of X3D chips in later years.
Do you suffer from delusions?
Well, that's not necessarily true. Intel was ahead of AMD in gaming until AMD released the X3D variants of Zen 4. When the RTX 4090 first released nearly 2 years ago, I had to buy the 13900K because it was the king of gaming CPU's in 2022 and was also the only CPU to not bottleneck the 4090 at that time. I would've waited for the 7000X3D chips if I knew they were coming later. However, the Raptor Lake i9 processor does perform better than the Zen 4 X3D processors in certain games and in most productivity apps, but they perform very identically when playing games in resolutions higher than 1080p anyways.
If the Zen 5 X3D processors offer significant gaming performance in 1440p ultra-wide resolution compared to what Intel offers, I will buy one of them for sure.
Bros traps are huge.
For this sort videos take normal closes on
AMD is a better bet for platform longevity. Just look at AM4 and if AM5, is half as good. AMD is still a better bet look at intel you only get two generation at best platform so we be see AM4 -AM5 motherboard and CPU standing the test of time long after Arrow lake has been and gone.
That’s if Intel doesn’t just support the socket for multiple gens.
LGA1851 and AM5 should both support 2 gens of CPU.
Expect Zen 7 to be DDR6, therefor a new platform
@@moist_ointment Zen 4-6 on am5 means 3 gens of cpus.
@KeinNiemand Zen 4 is already out. Why would it be factored into the decision making out someone considering ARL vs Zen5
At this point,i better wait for optical processors,otherwise my 5900x and rx 7900XT will carry me out some more years.
You are probably good for another 3 years in gaming with 5900x
Raptor Lake refresh refresh refresh
Still more than happy with my 13900. I'll probably wait for the 16900 in early 2026 to upgrade. I never get the first gen of any new radical architecture change. Though I am looking to upgrade to a RTX 5080 early next year.
Why only 5080?
i was hoping to jump back to intel but i think its clear at this point ill be going from my 5800x3d to the 9k x3d when they come out in fall/winter.
RoidGamingTech
He's getting ready to compete with the RTX 5090.
.. now with 20 percentages higher crash rate 😂😂
These specs and projected performance numbers are not good for Intel. A regression in clock speed (say goodbye to 6GHz!), a likely regression in power consumption due to the limitations of TSMC’s process node, a regression in memory support to just 6400MT/a, and a reduction in available threads due to the elimination of SMT. This all spells disaster to me unless they get absolutely massive IPC increases. But even if they do get massive IPC, where is it going to come from, and will the CPU’s be bottlenecked by memory bandwidth?
For single thread performance, it looks like 3-8% uplift over 13th Gen (not even 14th Gen!). Granted that slide is a year old and the figures were projections before the first chip came back from TSMC… but still. For single thread tasks or ones that are limited by single dominant thread performance (eg gaming), this looks like a complete dud to me. Perhaps multithreaded applications will do better if the power consumption and clock speeds are greatly improved on E-cores, but absent that this entire architecture leaves a lot to be desired. This is a train wreck in the making…
It should have been named Molten Lake as it would melt your MB. Intel is pathetic now.
Nope, won't happen this time. Intel is well aware of this.
RedGainingTech
Traps going hard af
But we know they run at a ridiculous power draw and obviously have heat issues
Intel doesn’t need to be competitive because they already have a loyal fanbase so they need to just do more of the same
No people will start moving over to AMD if they just sit on their hands.
It’s getting hot in here
It's currently 89F in my room and I haven't booted yet
meh - i don't believe intel - amd has the presumptive lead right now but we have to wait months to know for sure until we see x3d
4nm+6nm vs 3nm
Without low end variant intel is making a mistake.
5% faster than the AMD counter part but 500% hotter and 400% more power draw (possiby even resulting in frying your CPU)
Atleast research on the topic before commenting or don't comment
Arrow lake will be on 3nm, a huge upgrade from 10nm of Raptor lake and even better than 4nm of amd 9000 series. Efficiency was the only problem and will be solved after this
@@sovietunion9131 What does it matter really how much mm they use if they crank up the power level and don't innovate? 😄
on a 9900k right now with rtx 3080, been waiting years for a meaningful upgrade. Im still gonna holdout after arrowlake release to see what ryzen 9000 x3d chips are capable of for gaming and then gut my current machine and slap in all these new parts.
I need to lose weight.
If i were you, i'd stay away from Intel CPUs for a while...
About half a decade ago I got into computers and built my first computer.... 5900x 6900xt Asus dark hero board got it dialed in with a custom Waterloop. It's overclock to 4.7 all core and 5.150 pbo. And it has done that the whole time. I built my second computer 13900KF 4090... Overclocked it and it's slowly degraded. When I first got it it would do 6.1 of one core 6.0 on 2 cores 5.9 on the rest. Now it only do 5.9 on 3 cores and 5.6 on the rest. Is this just the luck of the draw with what components I got and silicon lottery or is this just how it is and Intel slowly degrades and AMD doesn't?
You are splitting hairs and yes the silicon lottery is real. Keep searching and you will find nirvana if your heart is pure.
If the new CPU is as healthy as you look I am happy to do without
That is cool! Fitness is key to nerd health 🤙🏼
The performance gains aren't massive. A few percent is just a small gain. Its just click bait.
If it looks too good to be true, chances are that Intel will rip you off like 13th and 14th gen scandal(the performance on normal Wattage not being able to defeat AMD 7000 Ryzen series at all... At least without your CPU literally dying within 1 to 2 years)
Well, I had my intel 8700k for 5 years and it didn't fail me. Sold it and upgraded to intel 13th last year and hopefully will last the same. I had rx570 before and jt gave me headaches so I tried rtx 3060ti. It's not perfect but a lot better than the radeon by a mile in terms of support and lesser bugs. My relatives have the ryzen G version with igpu and it's super buggy. Don't know why. I haven't tried AMD cpus before but I bet it needs a lot of tinkering to work properly with some apps.
??? no offense but you realy need to get your head out of the youtubebuble :D cheeres form a 7950x3d user....the highest end possible is 14th gen for quiet a while....and reducing the core voltag is actualy what gets you the best performance i.e. NOT pushing thousands of watts throu the cpu......the failure with them dieng is EXCLUSIVLY a mb manufatory problem....ive yet to see a failed processor that wasnt run under asus and msi stupid autooverclock shenaningans at 1,6v.....the average power conusption from a normal mixed workload + gaming ....the intels actualy win ....becasue amds sleep state managment is HORRIBLE ...always has been with ryzen....currently most fair competetion between gens sincew ages.....somehow intel not totaly wiping the floor with amd nis them loosing and you guys realy nbeed to drop that attitude......
I'm building a new PC right now and I'd like to go with Intel for the Quick Sync, but I'm not as confident in intel based on what I've seen of Gen 13/14 as well as their relatively short socket lifespan. So I settled on AMD Ryzen 9 9950X this time around and we'll see what happens. No brand loyalty from me, just timing and performance.
My 13900 non k runs like a dream. Uses between 60w to 120w during gaming depending on the game. Only time it even goes above 200w is during CPU multicore benchmarks or when taking 3D scans and turning them into highly detailed meshes. I get a score of about 37k in Cinebench which is pretty good.
Arrow Lake at default is power limited so this is already not gonna happen again.
Redgamingtech shows us that you can be are nerd and buff at the same time there is hope.
I have a suspicion next gen of both AMD and Intel will suck a bit, since they focused on adding that stupid AI. And it's not even really AI yet. Just a copy pasta of big data. We have seen wasted silicon before.
My hopes go for the next next gen on a better node.
doesnt matter much to me,because im an i3 guy and if its just a refresh then ill just buy amd.
If Intel removed hyper threading from Arrow Lake I think Arrow Lake will fall behind AMD's 9000 series in multi core performance. Hopefully Arrow Lake will have a decent bump in single core performance over their 14 gen. and also deminished power consumption. We'll have to wait for benchmarks and reviews once it has finally been released.
Looking like Arrow Lake wins in multithreaded and not single threaded based on leaks.
makes no sense to buy intel for gaming, especially with short socket life
Until Intel learns to fix their Shit or gives us a system that works right i see no reason to jump back on the next genreation of Intel. they got it right w the 10th generation