Star Trek Discovery's Hilariously AWFUL Season 3
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- Опубліковано 12 січ 2021
- Star Trek Discovery Season 3 was a hilarious disaster that some how managed to put an expiration date Star Trek Canon while trying to move away from it. Wanting to move 930 years in the future so Kurtzman and Paradise could be 'free' of the established lore exemplifies why they are, and have always been, the worst people for the job. Season 3 if filled with the usual Kurtzman Trek, plot holes, contrived story telling, Michael Burnham Space Jesus amped up to 11, and something new ..crying. Lots of crying. There is someone crying in 9 out of 13 episodes. The only thing left to do is chronicle a once great franchises very slow demise. What it has become is on of the most intentionally hilarious shows this side of Batwoman. Yes, we are getting a season 4 and 5, doesn't matter at this point. Star Trek is done under Kurtzman. It has never, and will never catch on. It's CBS and Netflix's money to burn.
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For the record, I would watch a 3 hour long video of someone talking about how bad this show was just so I don't feel like I suffered alone.
You are not alone.
@@andrewfreshwater1843 I'd hug you, but I that's classed as assault these days.
same here
You are not alone bro
It's called therapy!!! It's a support network for the bereaved!!!! I stopped watching 15 plus yrs ago....the minority that seek to influence us are sooooo outta touch😁👍!!!!
Star Trek: Safe Space 9
Underrated comment!
That was deep.
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Hahahahaha yes!! Use this comment in other chats. This deserves a million 👍
14:26 detachable nacelles for increased maneuverability...in space. I almost punched my computer screen when I heard that. It's pretty clear that these writers don't even care. Yet, the critics raved how great this show was. It just shows how detached the elite are from the rest of us.
What's worse is that they probably think they're clever for thinking that up. Like the retconning of Klingon biology so they can have two penii.
Wasn't there a whole thing during the tng era about how adjusting the position of the nacelles can adjust the properties of the warp bubble? Seems like it's a plot point in Voyager and why the nacelles elevate before takeoff. 6-axis movement is surely more useful than 1-axis movement for fine-tuning the warp bubble.
"elite"
@@jceggbert5 I always assumed the nacelles of Intrepids angle to fix a design flaw. The warp drive did not work with nacelles straight, when they tried to fix it, the impulse drive did not work anymore, but the impulse thrusters could not be mounted anywhere else, so the designers came up with this awkward fix.
@@schwarzerritter5724I thought Voyager did that to keep from damaging subspace with their warp drive. Remember the warp 5 limit from TNG "Force of Nature"?
The reason for the burn, has to be the dumbest plot I've ever seen. My disappointment with this season, and the show in general, was palpable.
Watching "The Expanse" makes you realize how bad the science is on this show.
I miss André Bormanis as a science advisor :(
No, watching The Expanse makes me think: ‘there are writers in Hollywood with a FUCKING clue!”
This seasons Expanse knocks sock off Discovery....
@@MrChillidee Any season of Expanse for that matter.
@@miamijules2149 All too few, though. And it is rarer when they produce something great without having great original source material to draw from. Look at the great seasons of Game of Thrones, before they ran out of novels.
the source of the burn was - how should i put this mildly - The Shitiest thing i have ever seen on any sci fi movies ever made in history
*cuddles hurt feelings *
You monster...
I honestly do not get it. Star Trek is loosely based on science, that's what makes it believable, the burn kind of ruins that and pushes the show out of sci-fi and into the fantasy genre.
@@bluebull399 My friend, ST is being slowly turned into sci-fantasy since TNG first aired back in the 90s -- why do you think they use so much technobabble and handwavium in these shows?
"Black Alert!" who thought this was a good idea?
@@cottonpatch2000 And your point is...?
Kid, in Gene Roddenberry's _Andromeda,_ *really* serious situations -- like having your ship boarded by Magogs -- are classified as "Code Black". Black is a color usually associated with death or the risk of death. Remember that the spore drive is not unfallible and the danger of use it is extremely high -- therefore, use it needs a Black Alert.
What is truly amazing is that Season 3 of STD was even worse than Season 2. I wouldn't have thought that was even possible but here we are.
@Brian Fuller
That's the problem with STDs, the longer they go untreated, the worst they get. :p
Considering the amount of focus on sexual relationships and banter that added zero to the story STD is a great addition to the description.
Kinda like the current presidency.....didn't think anyone could possible be worse than Bath-House Barry, but Creepy, Senile Pedo Joe proved me wrong!
Exhausting. I’m so glad I’ve never seen an episode. Your commentaries regarding this show saved me. Thank you!
The crying from the actors is real because they know how bad the show is.
And, tears of joy of collecting a paycheck for this - otherwise - acting-career-ending drek.
Screaming, “WHY...WHY DID WE MAKE THIS HORRIBLE SHOW?” Then after depositing their paycheck, realizing that there are no studios that will ever have them as part of their films screaming, “WHY...WHY DID WE MAKE THIS HORRIBLE SHOW?”
"Even if lockdown ends, I'll never be able to show my face in public again; Bwaaaah...!"
Actors: *crying*
Series developers: You wanna tell me what’s wrong?
Actors: You wouldn’t get it
@@tomanderson9202
Actors *ARE* the woke promoters, most if not all of them.
In the end actors are just over-the-top-glorified-pretenders.
With some exceptions, actors are depraved, perverts and among the worst of what humanity has to offer; no morals, fried brains from drug and alcohol overuse, drama "queens" and blatant narcists.
And people look up to them ...
Wheaton: Best series ever!
Everybody else: 🤮
Shut up, Wesley!
"Shut up, Wesley!"
At least we now know why wheaton left tng. He has no idea what a good show is.
I wonder what he was paid to say that and run the fan show.
@@yulbrynner8293 Best part is, of course, that he blocks people on social media if they say that to him.
I cant build up the courage to watch this show
The saddest part people think this is Star Trek,
Star Trek: The Woke Generation
The Wack Generation
The wacked out of its gourd Generation
Currently re-watching TNG all the way through. Imma ignore this pathetic embarrassment and enjoy the good stuff.
Where the entire Federation is destroyed by a single cry of "Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
This is what happens when these industries get too much money. They can just crank out crap because they don't have to worry about...
Star Trek: Deep Space Whine.
21.49 worth of whiiiiiiinnnnnnnneeeeeeee. Imagine watching shit you don't enjoy & then making a video! Where's your life at?
Dayum, dude is 51, that much bitching & the dudes name.
Thanks youtube for the rec, but hard pass & no future manchild content from this bearded clown.
@@nusku74 His videos entertain people and he's making bank from it. That's more than can be said about Discovery. Although I'm sure half of it's audience are people getting a good laugh too.
@@nusku74 Kid, Star Trek is being slowly turned into crap since the 90s, with that insufferable TNG and all its useless technobabble and handwavium. The end result are trashes like Star Trek Discovery.
would have been better this show was filmed 930 years in the future
@@karlfoxwell8383 No. It would be better if this show finally brought Star Trek to modern times instead of keeping it frozen in the 60s. Unfortunately, this show writers are too dumb for this task.
You deserve the Medal of Honour for, firstly, watching that rubbish and, secondly, reviewing it in this video. I gave up after Season 1. Sometimes it really sucks doing your job.
"It was the first Star Trek to suck"
This is sooooo true!
this guy's age is a better plot twist than STD's entire show.
So this ship goes 930 years into future to defeat an enemy, that's like a viking longship showing up to attack a supercarrier.
yep and the viking longship can withstand a minutes long barrage by the mother ship of that super carrier and 8 other super carriers. and leave at warp power. Enough said. ha
If you had even watched the show, the Federation of the future retrofits the ship.
That depends on the future. If it was a capitalist society they’d try to make things a lot cheaper. It would be like ramming a ‘46 Ford with a Delorean. “He'll rip us like tin foil.”
@@enigma1863 If it was a communist society it would be even cheaper. In WW2 the Soviet Union did a study that concluded their tanks only lasted a few days in battle so they could build them out of cheaper material because the tank wouldn't be around long enough for the cheap parts to fail. Oh and the crew was factored in the expendable materials.
But the long ship was upgraded! Haven't you seen Jane Fosters space long ship battles!
Honestly, I liked Saru back in seasons 1 and 2. He was a decently logical guy, plus I liked the mannerisms they included, like the way he sways his arms as he walked. But in season 3, he kind of started going unnoticed and became this weird enigma of a logical character where sometimes he is, sometimes he isn't.
Just from seeing a few episodes I felt that STD felt very contrived. Whereas Ds9 felt natural, as if they weren’t even acting they just spoke as they really would in real life
I have been a Trekkie since I was little and after watching the first two episodes of STD I stopped and declared that this show does NOT exist. It is fanfiction of the worst kind and it is not canon. Am I ever so glad that I never backed down. STD does not exist. This is all terrible Mary Sue fanfiction.
Yes
I thought the exact same thing
I think what you are saying is too nice. I did not notice that I watched this review now twice. Thanks UA-cam. This is not a TV show but a propaganda thing that would have retired men and women of the CIA laughing. They began this shit and mass produced it. There propaganda was polished. And when people were coming out and saying those old shows were nothing but propaganda for the CIA to go against communism, no one believed those claims because the shows were award winning. They were smart, funny, and dependable entertainment. This crap is nothing like the CIA and KGB would have anything to do with in those days. I mean, at least this Alex asshat says it is not a ST show. That is refreshing. I just wish that Paramount or CBS or Viacom (whatever they chose to call themselves) would take off the Star Trek name. That would be more refreshing. And Gary is absolutely correct. ST did take on the subjects and took them on much better. Back in the 80's, the MSM had many "How did they" articles and ST has the balls to talk about that stuff. Something that no other TV show was doing back then. Now-a-days, we have space Jesus and how great it is to be around her and leave everyone they knew in the past. Not following the rules of ST that "one can warp around the sun and produce time travel." (Bones) This is how bad it is. Mr. Asshat had to get away from all that just like JJ did for SW. Now, we do not have ST or SW. Thanks assholes.
Discovery is an abomination.
Maybe videos like this one are changing your perspective. It's a good show but seeing videos like this is filling you with negativity.
Ahhh, Kurtzmann, my old friend, do you know the Klingon proverb that tells us "woke is a dish that is best served broke?"
*_Kap'lah!_*
Let us not forget the other old Klingon proverb:
_"Woke is a dish best immediately flushed out the nearest airlock into the freezing void of space, promptly followed by those that tried to feed you such poison."_
"And you are very close to being broke."
@@AsDeadAsDillinger Why did I read this in Worf's voice?
LOL gold
I just noticed, Kurtzmans glasses... he’s literally trying to look like JJ, only with more hair n his chin than his head... the mirror JJ.
Now when I rewatch "These Are the Voyages," I don't hate it for being an underwhelming Enterprise finale, I savour it for being a bittersweet finale for all of Star Trek on TV.
It was truly terrible. One additional thing: The ham-fisted reference to ghost boyfriend in the last episode: "I promise we will do everything we can to make sure you are truly seen." So ... ghost boyfriend does not exist except in the mind of them. But we will force everyone to see him no matter what.
Just like, with the "pandemic".
dude.."boyfriend"??
You know nothing about the actors/characters/writing.
The "boyfriend" is a , uh, how do you say....not a boy
And having Adira hallucinating about her ghost BF just because of inheriting his symbiont misses a major element of the whole Trill symbiont concept- the symbiont acts as physical manifestation of a spirit, and the Trills joined with it are akin to bodies that spirit lives in. STD tried hard to shoehorn it into the Trans+non binary stuff, but it failed miserably. Even worse, Adira seemed like a terrible stencil of Ezri Dax but adapted specially for the woke message Kurtzman wanted!
I hope the last scene of Discovery is Michael Burnham wakes up in the brig and it was all a dream.
I hope they all die viscously hour long deaths... Whole last Episode! Infact, make that a Mini Series...
@I Love Jesus Well that is what she does best. That and disobeying orders and never being wrong or facing any real consequences. This show makes me sad.
When they make 'diverse' characters and proceed to make them horrible, it actually makes the real people look bad even if it was none of their fault.
It has been done before....
And Bobby Ewing walks out of the shower
Basically a Kelpian stepped on Lego, and his scream destroyed all the dilithium. 10/10 writing.
Stepping on a lego... sounds legit.
Saru was complete garbage ...space Jesus was way better
@@bike-cave-man2527 Aw no you didn't! xD Jeez man. Almost wet myself.
@@bike-cave-man2527
Sounds like a bunch of haters that can't stand to see a new updated vision of a series that was too 70's
...and nobody even shoots the fucker for it. "oh, you destroyed civilisatuon and produced untold misers, you poor man, have a hug."
Federation: bascically destroyed through THE BURN
Also Federation: definatly saved through THE BURNHAM
Glad to have seen not a single episode of this train wreck.
Hahaha, I got up to about 15 Minutes before I wanted to vomit. I've spent more time reading the comments here and adding in some comments than I spent on the actual STD.
I was saved by pre-series reviews and never watched it. Thank you, critics! And thanks for the hilarious dissections of this abomination of a show.
I tortured myself for 2 seasons when it came out. Thinking back i wanted to die
I wanted to quit after 4 episodes of season 1. The wife wanted to carry on... I wanted to quit after 3 episodes of season 2. The wife wanted to carry on...
The wife quit after 2 episodes of season 3. And apologiesed to me...
I would have divorced her in season 1.
I quit mid episode when 16 year old demanded to be called they or them. Did they forget that the trek audience is middle aged heterosexual men that don't care about woke crap?
@@vinnyganzano1930 🤣
If she keeps bursting into tears every tone she doesn’t get her own way; you’ll know what TV show she picked that up from
@@xr6lad dead walking she should have stayed there she can’t act
Glad you mentioned the crying! Just finished season 2 and couldn't stop thinking about how Michael cried in every single episode. It's infuriating.
But she is space Jesus.
Compare to Sisko, who maybe broke down seven times in as many season and they were all memorable as fuck.
He read the script poor lamb
@@tomaspabon2484 Shows that it ain't a problem if a character cries once a while- as long as it isn't excessive and means something. Sisko cried for things that mattered, and so did Jean-Luc, Data, Deanna, Ezri, Kirk, Saavik and at one point even Spock, but it wasn't extraneous at all and made us appreciate the characters even more. Burnham, on the other hand...
@@satanspit4101 They sure took the verse "Jesus wept" way too far!
There was a time about 2 years ago where my wife and I were very interested in following the Star Trek discovery show but thankfully we never have gotten around to it. After watching this video I can see that this new Star Trek show isn’t a welcoming place for us and we have zero desire to have to be “re educated” on how we are supposed to accept ridiculous social issues. The last 10 years have really blazed a trail where almost every tv show and movie now is nearly unwatchable. How hard is it to write scripts based on a good and solid story? I don’t know who’s driving this movement but they feel it’s helping spread awareness of some type but all it’s really accomplishing is further separation, anger, divisions, and hatred ultimately. It’s working contrary to what it thinks it’s working towards.
I sometimes try thinking back when it sort of began and I can say that I really started noticing it back in 2008 with the show CHUCK. Loved that show still do, but you’ll notice that every single episode had the female agent beating up males left and right but when they fought another female it was an even battle. It was more lighthearted back then but now it’s steamrolled into a place where I and even my wife just feel uncomfortable with how persistent the toxic feminism and social junk is. As a male, as a white male (which I had nothing to do with because I was just born this way) I feel like I’m not welcome to enjoy most entertainment anymore and honestly I feel isolated and targeted. I’m all about equality and have always treated others regardless of gender or orientation with utmost respect, so why am I made to feel like I’m guilty of something? Like Gary has stated many times on this awesome channel: over correction is not the answer. I love your channel Gary and love what you do brother. It’s good to see other people feel like me and are fed up with it. I particularly love how Gary said that this Star Trek show isn’t the FIRST Star Trek show to try to bring awareness lol. I mean, look at what Roddenberry did in the 60’s with the diversity of his cast! He was revolutionary in what he did to help gender and racial equality and these new Star Trek writers are just...idiots. Anyways sorry for the rant and I’m so glad this channel exists!
If you haven't already seen them, look up The Critical Drinker's UA-cam videos on "Why Modern Movies Suck". My favorite: "They're written by children (for children)."
@@Hunpecked I’ll check that out thanks for the recommendation!
I had such high hopes, but midway through the 1st season I saw where this was going and dropped it. Thank you for the conformation of that decision.
Star Trek saved my life. Dramatic as that sounds, TNG held my hand throughout my teens, DS9 was darker and richer and is still my favorite, Voyager was fun and has a special place in my heart. When I’ve needed escapism and to be uplifted, all five series have been a tonic. They show me a better future when I loose faith in this world. NuTrek, however, just leaves me feeling worse.
Get on the Orville and the Expanse, stat!
Agreed, me too.
TOS gave me a sense of wonder and excitement for the future in my childhood. Woke boomers powered by political correctness killed it all.
Star trek has always been about a diverse people using all their talents to make the universe a better place. More people have died and life is cheap in the new one. Std killed more in most epesodes than og st did in whole run. Hows that better.
@@rubix4195 Interesting how The Expanse has a cast that is many different races, strong female characters and is yet a really good show. Certainly Avasarala is as strong a character as Holden, and yet it does not feel contrived, it works because it is good story telling.
Also the Federation was literally defeated by triggering
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Alphabet community line made me laugh outloud
I remember sitting on the floor, watching our black & white Philco, and seeing a commercial that started off with a narrator saying, "Imagine a spaceship the size of a city..." with what I later learned was the Enterprise crossing the screen.
I could not wait to see the first episode, and I was not disappointed.
All these years later, I wasn't even able to finish watching the second season of this... thing. I tried, but it was so far removed from the spirit of the franchise that it made me sick to realize that, in effect, a life-long friend had died.
RIP, Star Trek
the only good Star Trek in last decade is Orville
Is that still happening
@@dimitriwarchief301 new season slated for ....2/2022(?) i believe. Enjoy!
LMAO!!!!!!
SO TRUE
Yeh that duck is ace
USS enterprise ..."McCoy get over here and breath some life into this programme"...."I'm a doctor jim not a miracle worker".
*program
@@LazlotheInstigator *programme.
Where people that speak real English speak English and created English. And this is a world wide platform.
:-)
@@LazlotheInstigator
programme
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programme noun [C] (BROADCAST)
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It's one of those arts programmes late at night.
It's my favourite TV programme - I never miss an episode.
@@xr6lad I was hoping for this... America just cut out the nonsense 👍
@@LazlotheInstigator lol. 😜😜
I call it "Cry Trek"
"Spumoni ice cream!... your roomy" is what passes for sophisticated script writing in STD.
I would 100% watch a 3 hour video on every issue in this season
isn't it strange?? somehow i makes us feel better, to hear other people complaining about STD.. that was never true for any of the previous star trek series.. this kinda prooves, that this new shows are not real star trek
You forgot the part where Tilly was the worst Captain in Star Trek history....
I don’t know because Archer was played by the wrong actor...
Councillor troi did kinda crash the enterprise d
Nah Jane way gets that award.. She got her ship blown up on several occasions hell she got her ship lost for fucks sake what a dummy
Burnham as captain is going to be like harry kim in nightingale. "You give orders then proceed to carry them out yourself" as seven stated. And that's how the season is going to play out, everyone else is just a Burnham groupie doing nothing but smiling and saying nothing.
@@J.Wolf90 star trek Burnham she can crash disco every week and no one cares
Whenever I feel that perhaps I no longer fit in with this crazy world, I come back to this channel to remind myself that all is not lost.
I wonder how an organization that had some of the brightest minds in the galaxy couldn't crack another form of energy production or faster space travel. On earth we went form horse and buggy to space travel in a hundred years yet the federation couldn't come up with anything to counter the burn. Second the capital of both Starfleet and the UFP were both based on earth so why would earth become isolated and without a Starfleet? Voyager had used slipstream drive twice yet nobody studied the ships logs to figure out how to use it. I don't believe a single writer watch a single episode of star trek before the J.J. Abrams ass raped TOS and gave birth to the abortion of the so called Kelvin universe.
Remember that moment in Star Trek Voyager when the caretaker died and the crew all cried when they realized they were stuck in the delta quadrant and may never see their homes and families again? Yeah me neither.
This made me cry, with laughter!!
Voyager had it's own flaws.
To this day people argue if Janeway made the right decision and overlook that there was no decision. Tuvok said he needed an hour to activate the systems to send them back.
As if the Kazon would have given them the hour. They were able to defend themselves against the first Kazon ship by sacrificing the Maquis Raider and Kazon reinforcements were on the way.
During the whole show this is never acknowledged by anyone. Not even by fans that argue that it was the right decision.
@@thomasn3882 Ridiculous reply. The entire reason Janeway destroyed the array is because she knew the Kazon would use it to subjugate, if not outright massacre, the Ocampan Race.
@@thomasn3882 Me? No. It's just that once in a while someone starts the discussion again if Janeway made the rigth decision.
And after they destroyed the big Kazon ship I doubt they are in the mood for a deal.
And that's if they trust a group of people they know nothing about in the first place.
Voyager could leave and leave a bomb.
Or could you even risk leaving it to the Kazon? The Ocampa aside, the Kazon could send their ships all over the galaxy to raid places. Or what if the Kazon stumble over the Borg and the Borg grab that technology?
No, there never was a choice, which is why I find it so amusing when someone brings it up once more.
@@faded9581 what's ridiculous is trying to ascribe real-world logic to a TV show. Janeway blew up the caretaker because if she didn't there wouldn't have been a TV series, just a two hour TV special. The caretaker was a plot device to get Voyager and the Maquis to the delta quadrant, blowing up the array was the only way to logically strand them there.
Also, the fact that no-one really batted an eyelid at being stranded 75 years from home is one of the worst parts of Voyager, not a single tear shed? In what world would that actually happen? Certainly not the one we live in. My cousin used to drive a tank for the British Army and he would be the first to tell you that crying is perfectly natural when you're far away from home in hostile territory and you have no idea when or if you will see your family again.
"Emotions are not meant to be shared."
-Pablo Hidalgo
Boom 💥 hahaha 🤣
That "dude" is so oblivious he can't even identify when people have positive emotions towards the franchise he's working for.
I know it's not that but whatever
I doubt he gets invited to parties much, as he'll complain when people show emotions and laugh at jokes!
Pablo can't the see the fingers I am holding up to indicate how many black eyes he would get if he said that to a cancer survivor in real life. Hint for Pablo: It's offensive.
That's because it nullifies the nihilistic cultural Marxist hivemind they want you to live in. Somehow reminds me of Pink Floyd's - The Wall...
I just wanted to add another comment to thank you for watching this series so we dont have to!
Imagine a Star Trek series where the writers don't even know that the ships are fueled by antimatter not dilithium.
And Romulan ships use a completely different technology, powered by a singularity, and so would not have been affected by the burn.
@@basilmcdonnell9807 Oooh! Nice catch!
The whole gender and race equality thing was ground breaking in the 45 years ago why are they insisting on writing awful shows and claiming the fans refusal to accept them is because they are so ground breaking?
There is absolutely no problem with progressive storytelling when it is told well. I don't speak alone when I say Star Trek, especially TNG, had a platform and clear message that all life can be equal. All progression and diversity in this show seems unbelievably forced and thrown in simply because that is what is trending today. It's so contrived and obvious and so insulting.
@@marktully9090 agreed, telling good stories about different people makes for great stories. Being forced always comes across terribly.
Because the only way they get influence or brownie points is by seeming to be more virtuous than others. And if there isn't enough of an injustice to feel superior about... Make more injustice.
I would rather live in Star Trek's bad, "Mirror Universe" than in the Burnhamverse.
But that's also a Burnhamverse. Burnham is the multiverse.
They were the best episodes...
Just watched this again as I seriously needed a laugh. I was not disappointed. Your deadpan delivery on shockingly bad narrative and unworkable plot lines is awesome and deserves a worthy applause (as well as some serious LOL's from myself).
The Critical Drinker summed up season 3 in 10 minutes.
NuTrek memory-holed wisdom from TOS Uhura: "You see in our century, we've learned not to fear words."
"Haha... they STILL USE words"
"We are going to talk about the worst television that most of you have never seen".
Yup, all the viewing I get to see is on your and The Drinker's channels. Thankyou for your sacrifice.
Yeet!
You mean to say all you've seen is Discovery through the eyes of people who hate it and now you hate it? Fascinating
@@busterkoala5906 people who have demonstrated a very similar taste to mine. We all make media consumption choices based on reviews and recommendations of others, especially those we trust.
@@busterkoala5906 I watched a few episodes of the first season and it was garbage, hoping for good news every time there is an updated review that comes out, that they have redeemed themselves.... alas... it seems to have become worse.
A simple "yes" would suffice. Think for yourself
Youre 51?! Omg, I always thought you were like mid 30s or something. 😱
I thought that the premise of STD was having a series from the point of view of the First Officer? Not only did we not get that, we have Burnham as Captain!
Discovery Season 3 Plot in a nutshell: People in space having an emotional crisis. The Burn was caused by... you guessed it, an emotional crisis.
So much potential for storylines to the source of the burn and what a pathetic let down they came up with
@@danzigg08 indeed. They could have tied in to the TNG episode, "Force of Nature," but no...Like with the Klingons, it was a missed opportunity to connect to existing trek lore and give a little fan service.
😂🤣
@@honkerman74 or voyagers omega particle episode also a missed opportunity.
@@danzigg08 this !
Star Trek Discovery: The Undiscovered Audience
Stat Trek Discovery: The search for Woke
*brilliant allegory there*
Zing!
There was too much unexplained emotion, like when they first get to federation and start fleet headquarters and were all so happy like they were entering heaven even though there was bound to be a lot of tense uncertainty awaiting them which more likely would have caused a more neutral emotion until they found out how they would be accepted.
What? It had great reviews, and was the best of the 3 seasons to date. Now, where is that Trek killer, "The Orville" Oh yeah, it was canceled due to low ratings.
Actually, I would like to see a video talking about EVERYTHING wrong with Kurtsman trek.
And you mean “Space Anti-Christ”.
Petition to accept the Orville as cannon and remove Discovery and strange new worlds from existence.
What Chibnall did to Doctor Who is what Kurtzman did to Trek. Rid themselves of established lore in order to serve their own agendas.
Not comparable, Kurtzman hasn't rewritten 50 years of history. He has covered the none mention of Discovery in previous shows and pushed it so forward in the timeline, that future writers have a good 500 years of timeline to play with before they hit even the burn.
Because neither are good writers and they know it. They cannot for one moment build on something - which is what a great writer can do and have done in the past.
Chinballs crimes are still worse, sadly. He didn't bring it back after a long gap and make it shit, he took something that had been continuously on tv since 2005 and for most of it, been doing really well and completely and irrevocably trashed the whole thing. The thing is had he been in charge in 2005 and trashed it right out the door we'd have forgotten about it by now and there would be hope of them bringing back Doctor Who again and ignoring all of it, which is something that could happen with Star Trek. That 25% different thing will make it very easy to ignore. Doctor Who though... well they could reboot and ignore all the 2005 series and onwards, but Eccleston to Smith may have had more fans globally than the orignal series so it seems unlikely they'd want to discard all of that unless they were doing a full reboot which frankly is the only hope left for Doctor Who and they'll probably make that even worse (under the BBC at least).
Sorry for the rant, but I can't overstate just how badly they have fucked Doctor Who and how little hope their is for that franchise. Star Trek is in a very bad place too, but better than Who. Star Wars is the healthiest but even that has a long way to go.
@@screenwolf With you brother.
and they're not even agendas that no one gives a shit about. if people did, that would mean someone actually watches this show.
I lost it at detachable nacelles for maneuverability.
Lol that's as bad as more space in the turbo shafts than the entire size of the ship itself
@steven abell And what was that? I didn't see shit but books puzzle ship 😭💩🚮
@steven abell Except we saw none of it lmao We didn't even see any episodes dedicated to anything besides Discovery lol
@@J.Wolf90 OMG I forgot about that, I was so confused the entire scene, and the discount "See you at the party Richter" at the end; tragic.
I couldn't make it all the way through the series. Still hanging on to the treks of the past, I tired, I really tired. It was just impossible.
Same here, so sad
After watching a few episodes, myWife said “Tell them to stop ruining our characters “. We have watched since 1966. Sad what they have done to it.
That Tilly was promoted to the second officer position on the ship when 1. she hid under/behind a table/bar and 2. cries so often that there must be a literal river of tears running down the hallways of Discovery was a truly jump the shark moment. If Michael being the savior of the Universe throughout the Discovery seasons was hard to swallow, Tilly's promotion was impossible.
You should count how many times people on STD cry and then compare it with a season of ANY soap opera. I bet STD wins this comeptition!
I respectfully disagree… it is Michael who cries at the drop of the proverbial hat. Seriously, here’s this strong gal who has a “only I can & must save the universe” complex and yet she cries like a baby in every episode it seems. Drives me nuts. I want to like this series but they’ve done so much wrong to the trek line.
@@gmhalmeoni2085 Wanting to like STD must be like marrying an abuser and trying to figure out how you can stay with her. As far back as s1e1 the series repeatedly punched us in the face. The fx of Burnham's space walk early that season was nifty, but other than that? Horror after horror.
@@johnstrawb3521 yeah pretty much I remember watching discovery S1 E1 and being mildly interested only to have that interest be flushed down the toilet by the time season one concluded and season two started which is why I only watched about 10 minutes into the first episode of season two before I stopped watching. I would rather rewatch TNG over and over again until I die then have to be forced to watch anymore of this garbage.
Dilithium's function was to control the matter-antimatter reaction that powered the warp core (something clearly not a requirement since they didn't have matter anti-matter reactors yet in First Contact and even so Cochrane was still able to build and power a crude warp engine)
However Romulans supposedly used artificial singularities to power their ships without the need for dilithium, so after the stupidity of the "burn", wouldn't the Romulans simply take over the galaxy?
Quickly.
maybe they're building up to that🤣
nah, they prob were to busy talking about feelings or something xD
Indeed, i was thinking the same, the Romulans dont use Dilithium, they would have rebuild the empire, and rule the galay, but those details need to you know, read or check something they hate
Yeah, the big hurdle for warp travel is not needing dilithium (for a specific kind of reactor), but energy requirements. Matter-antimatter reactors were only favoured because the resultant plasma is an extremely convenient way to transfer energy to the nacelles. Even if the Romulans were part of the UFP (and using UFP tech), they defo would've suggested using the "old" artificial singularity to solve the dilithium shortage. If they really wanted to have the UFP collapse due to a lack of FTL, why not use the destructive effects of warp on subspace introduced in TNG? That would require brains though, something the writers clearly lack.
Side note, I don't think it was ever stated, but I'm pretty sure it was implied during DS9 that the Cardassians used fusion reactors to power their ships, so they wouldn't be affected either...
I think we can all agree that The Orville is more enjoyable than this.
I watched this series up to the early episodes of season 3 when I finally realized I couldn't stand any of the characters with the possible exception of Saru and gave up. Thanks for giving me a painfree way of catching up.
"First transgender and nonbinary characters."
*Jadzia Dax:* "No, no, don't mind me..."
*The entire genderless alien race from TNG:* "Or us." (Looked it up, they're called the J'naii from the episode "The Outcast")
But no, I'm *sure* that Kurtzman and Co. knew their Star Trek and these new characters are different in some way that makes them the first _real_ trans and nonbinary characters. No True Scotsman...
11001001. Great TNG episode.
Kurtzman himself said that "it's impossible to follow a lore of 50 years"
Meanwhile, all the historical movies and tv series following centuries worth of real-life details.
And it's not even 50 years, just TOS TNG and DS9, watchable in weeks.
@@culturecanvas777 don’t we all do that daily?
Also Q, if I'm not mistaken.
@@culturecanvas777 Or they could just hire one person who knows the lore and, y'know, ask them. I haven't watched TNG in over a decade, but I remembered that episode. There are people who could name the episode, the characters, and probably the original air date without even looking it up.
"I'm sorry Dave I cannot do that. Would you like a coffee instead?"
"Computer, my name is Saru."
"No one cares Dave. This is ST:D."
Dave'S not here
..man
@@rascallyrabbit8548 no man its me dave open up the door the police are right behind me.
"So are you saying that everybody's dead?"
I'm watching this while season 4 is playing...I'm confident I'm not missing anything other then a bunch of women cry or talk!
Whilst there are some great cerebral moments in Trek (Gareks talk on the federation, Captain Picard in a court hearing fighting for data's right to sentience), ultimately the most enjoyable part of Trek is that indescribable feeling you get when they are out exploring the unknown, be it a creepy alien ship or a new planet.
This is the fundamental problem with Discovery, they just don't understand what geeks enjoy. Most Trekkies are more interested in what's in that nebula than Burnhams feelings or Tillys body positivity issues. Discovery should be the best Star Trek ever as we now have the CGI to create those strange new worlds. TNG and Enterprise nailed exploring the unknown, some of the best episodes were pure exploration escapism. I definitely rate Enterprise highly as not only were they exploring strange new worlds, they were exploring the prime directive and their place in the intergalactic community.
So if it's that simple why do they miss it. I think the answer lies in the fact it's targeted at generation Z, this generation are more interested in exploring people than planets. I think a show based purely on space exploration would be seen as boring by them. That doesn't mean that the new generation aren't imaginative, they are just different. They've already proved they can do Trek with Star Trek 2009, I don't care about lens flares, that was still a good Trek movie as it had some awesome exploration parts with modern CGI. It was also funny, enjoyable and had some memorable lines and catch phrases.
What CBS should do is give us a show in the classic exploration format, create one season as a tester. If it flops then fine, at least they can say they genuinely tried. We all know it won't flop, as there's millions of Trekkies all over the world crying out for it. Get rid of all the woke politics, cut out the emotional bs and get captain Pike in command and do some exploring.
Compare Tilly's body positivity issues with Barclay's reclusion issues and it's easy to know what is wrong with Discovery.
This video really needs more attention. This is hands down the definitive synopsis of everything wrong with star trek discovery. A "platform of influence" is all anyone needs to hear to confirm their suspicions that something is very wrong with the show.
It's very ironic that Star Trek has now a canon Mary Sue character, considering the entire concept of a Mary Sue is from Star Trek fanfic.
Canon? Please. Discovery is in the prime timeline; nothing in Discovery is canon. It will make it that much simpler when we expunge JunkTrek from Star Trek.
@@kitcat7538 Kelvin timeline is non-canon tho. Prime timeline is the one TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, etc. are in.
@@UltimatePerfection Wrong. The Prime Universe is the universe that AbramsTrek created to stand in for the Original Universe, to which they did not have access.
Paramount wanted to use the Original Universe but CBS refused permission, forcing Paramount to create the Prime Universe. Action figures based on characters in AbramsTrek, set in the Prime Universe, must be marketed as "PRIME" and are so labeled.
The Original Universe was owned by CBS (including the film universe) and the Prime Universe was owned by Paramount -- different companies with different marketing rights.
i can't believe i forgot about that.
@@kitcat7538 Original trek will be back. This std stuff won't. The fans are still buying old collectables, wear old uniforms, make old style films and stories. The new stuff is not catching on.
Michael Burnham rubbed me up the wrong way all the way through this season. Stupid choices unrealistic outcomes.
Decisions in the STD Writer's Room between seasons 2 and 3:
--One: Michael Burnham needs to be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine.
--Two: Whenever Michael Burnham's on screen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Michael Burnham?"
I surprised that when someone uses the wrong pronoun the com badge does not immediately beam the offender to sensitivity training.
If anyone ever wondered what a CW Star Trek show would be like, now you know.
Honestly even CW manages to be more entertaining at times
We are reduced to tears watching it.
Nah, if it was on CW everyone would be hot. Even the cat would've had abs XD lol
I would like your comment but it’s on 69 so I shouldn’t mess with perfection
Ahhh exactly
first, fire all production staff, second, fire all the writers, third fire all the camera people, fourth, open season 4 w/ Saru waking from a coma, seasons 1 thru 3 were a dream. G.I.Davis 6April '61
With the most amount of sarcasm possible I love how Burnham, not being a Trill and having zero experience with having a symbiant, is the one to figure out how to help Adira. I also threw up a little in my mouth when Silly Tilly was promoted to First Officer. No captain with combat experience would have ever done that since she has no leadership skills and no soldier with combat experience would have followed her. She would have been the first victim in a fight - from friendly fire!
Loved the nickname "Space Jesus" and pointing out that a show called STD has a story line with "The Burn"! Better writing than the writers for the show!
This entire show could be summed up in two words, "It sucks."
I'll go one better, Shite.
or 3 letters, std
@@Zanuka 🤣🤣🤣
@@Zanuka A shocking Discovery indeed!
@@morkorson4196 "It's made of our shite, you know."
"The red angel suit has an autopilot, and so does Discovery"
"I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about that"
“I’ll get off of that thing!”
Star Trek overalls are TIGHT
🤣🤣🤣 I see you, "super easy, barely an inconvenience!"
"Why didn't Saru promote someone with a higher rank, as opposed to an ensign with clear issues?"
"I don't know."
@@Kiss4cooper Whoopsie!
Davros to The Doctor: "I name you, Destroyer of _Worlds!"_
Nerdrotic to Abrams: "I name you, Destroyer of _Franchises!"_
The former, obviously fictional.
The latter, all too real.
I'll continue fixing my house, playing non woke video games, or reading until I die. I'll NEVER allow myself to preached to by Hollywood in the disguise of entertainment.
I've never watched STD beyond the first episode aired. Apparently, I've saved myself a lot of time and grief.
My Captain's Log remains STD-free. 🖖
I managed 3, well, 2 and a bit episodes before I threw up.
Me too. I couldn't get passed the Vulkan psychic Skype call.
Me and my mate watched the first one when it came out for a laugh. It was fucking terrible, never went back. It was so obvious it was fucking absolute and total garbage
Nice to see that even in the distant future in which STD is based, people still can’t get their heads around the whole gender pronouns bullshit.
I couldn't get past S3:E1. I want to be transported to other Worlds and civilisations, not stuck in an echo chamber regurgitating all the same shit that is being played out here in the Socialist Republic of Planet Bullshit. God Help US!!
Me either I fell asleep during the s3 premiere, and turned it off after the first 5 minutes of the second episode. This show is not classic trek, it is the brain child of super woke academics. It’s like it’s run by the buzzfeed writers room. So sad that such a great show has become so infused with this spoon fed leftism.
Garry's reviews of STD are far more fun than suffering the actual series - that are not even worth pirating.
I don't recall anyone blubbering in TOS, STNG, DS9 and Voyager and if it did happen it happened for the right reasons. These are m3ant fully trained crews. Can you honestly see Kirk, Picard, Sisko and Janeway putting up with a crew member crying, no neither can I.
Give me Captain Kirk fighting lizard men and romancing green space babes - now THAT'S entertainment!
*and notice that both are...green*
😂😂
And running past the same styrofoam rock three times...
also giant green demigod space hands
I really enjoyed not watching it.
Not watching what?
They have taken Star Trek where no Star Trek has gone before... into boring storylines that are laughably absurd!
Thank god I watched your review! I started a quest to watch all Star Trek in order and after watching your video I believe I will skip STD and pretend is never existed.
Classic Trek was characterized largely by optimism. NuTrek has all the optimism of a Slayer album.
“ OH”
Gandalf
Except when I buy or go to a slayerco concert I know what I'm buying and they kick ass! When I watch star trek I want to have a positive feeling and I no longer do :(
not to mention the story-telling ability and coherence of a Napalm-Death-song.
If we’re gonna do metal comparisons, I get more of a morbid angel’s illud divinum vibe from std/stp
My wife and I just watched this and my wife kept saying over and over, "YES!! YES!! We are not alone!" Nice to know someone else agrees with out assessment.
I wish Alex Kurtzman and Paramount see this video and Alex Kurtman and all his incompetent writers stay away from Star Trek series for the rest of their life...If i could sue them I definitely would
I suffered through two seasons of Discovery, hoping that it would turn the corner, like DS9 did, but unlike DS9, this show is still searching for the bottom in the well of stupid. I think what frustrates me almost more than anything, is that the idiots who put this garbage together decided they wanted to emphasize diversity, without seemingly looking at the makeup of previous Star Trek franchises.
It's so upsetting so see this trope becoming so pervasive. They've ruined so many of my favourite franchises.
I'm shocked that this shit even gets the green-light. This is the exact, extreme polar opposite of everything Star Trek is. It's not even remotely close to similar. It's a joke, it's offensive, boring, and pretentious.
Stop watching it
I'm pissed off that they threw away "professionalism," "efficiency," "competency," and the freaking "chain of command" in a space sci-fi that is famous for it. These things are points of conflicts in this universe. A friction of duty and emotion/empathy. And, they shat it away.
@@jaythomas3224 its star trek fans WANT to watch it but if they can't follow the simple formula that made previous series popular, and amazing, perhaps they should fix the problem and stop polluting the star trek universe we all know and love that has a very extensive history with multiple series... instead they went Hollywood and are making things people are asking WTF because nothing makes sense. Non of this is rewatchable let along legendary and no, no one in 20 years is going to rewatch this garbage... you can go on youtube right now and see people posting mash ups of their favorite scene from every episode of previous series and it has 100k plus views.. you think 20 years from now anyone will be doing that with discovery? I think not.
its because everyone in hollywood is fucking stupid and think they are actually smarter than you. jesus i've been watching screen rants pitch meeting videos for the last hour. at 1st they are funny but then it just gets depressing.
@@jaythomas3224 - I did.....wayyyyyy back in season 1.
_"That's right buddy! You show that turd who's boss!"_ OMFG Hahahahahhaahhaaaaa!!
I gave up on STD early season 2 and I am reading that season 3 was even worse...I did not think that would be possible.
Klutzman: “Hold my Romulan Ale”