Let's Talk About Nobara's Timing | JJK Q&A
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Let's talk about Nobara's comeback and more.
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Lobotomy kaisen one last time 😭😭
I NEED TO KNOW HOW TIGER FUNERAL Or atleast theories on how it’s innate ability would work like how nue has electric wings cuz I’m hoping it’s not a divine dog totality copy
What u think?? Couldn't ui ui just swap gojo and yuta back because in the flash backs when they swap bodys ui ui technique works the same as kenjakus only without the timer or burnout... Etc you can even say his version is the perfection on kenjakus techniques cuz he can swap back when he likes. What's your thought??
yo I saw this theory a little while back but can you explain your thoughts or the community of JJK nerds here chime in !!?? (that is a prideful badge!) So the theory was that Gojo would, could have beaten, or at least prolonged the Sukana fight if he didn't stop the chat after the hollow purple that he survived. The theory said that he gave Sukana enough time to chant the words needed to make the world cutting slash. I believe this theory to be very plausible b/c if you think about it Gojo (like Sukana) was alone at the top {as stated he was the strongest b/c he was Gojo}. In that moment he had another enlightenment that someone was as strong if not stronger than him (i.e. train scene confirming his final thoughts to the reader). This theory would also bring around full circle Gojo's arc of finding an equal but also knowing an equal exists. This would confirm a few things to him but also that his students could reach his potential if Sukana could be as strong as him (gojo). Another possible thought is that b/c Gojo realized he had an equal that (wasn't human) may have made him feel happy that he (a human) could compete or be owning (in his mind) the one to be considered the most powerful of all time which again would imply it can be done. Gojo's life mission after Geto wasn't to change how curses become or to make everyone on their own to be able to manage their cursed energy therefore not letting curse spirits come into being, but was to get the next generation ready to be better than "the honored one". His death led to the success of the rest of the jujutsu sorcerers being able to rise to his level now that he was passed away. (he know during their mini training arc that his class had so much potential but yet he still shouldered the burden of fighting Sukana first) I don't think it was just about ego but rather him making the ultimate sacrifice that if he was wrong about him being the strongest then it would give invaluable data to the rest who would follow after him in his footsteps. I think part of Gojo's growth was even in realizing that someone could oppose him by themselves and he used it as a catalyst to make everyone else stronger though bonding to fight the ultimate evil. Honestly no matter what others opinions are I believe that besides some of the culling game interactions that JJK was near perfect manga that gave depth to every character we came across and in turn helped them keep growing till the end. Damn near perfect writing 9/10 manga and anime. Thoughts guys if you agree with Gojo's arc and how his arc reaching a climax helped the other well written characters reach theirs's (minus a few characters b/c frankly Maki got shafted in the final fight but at least had her arc done well before the culling games and during)
Did the “Kashimo stronger than Sukuna and Gojo?” vid get deleted?
Im genuinely surprised how many people think Yuta performed better than Gojo. Like did we read the same story? Gojo was working Sukuna up and down the city before he got hit with the WES while Yuta was awkwardly swinging with his body. Like Yuta did well but we know Gojo was the strongest because he was Gojo.
People like to portray that fight like it was one sided in Gojo's favor. Either way Gojo did way better than Yuta.
Pretty much.😊
It's mind boggling that someone could have that take, and unfortunately takes like that unfortunately strengthens the whole " jjk fans can't read" narrative.
Most of these fans read for TikTok I'm convinced
Nah JJK readers are crazy, Gojo was defeating Sukuna until we have to follow the plot. Yuta is goated, but he fight a half power Sukuna, without 10 shadows and Yuta was luck to be alive (but of course he helped too, before piloting Gojo body and after)
Realizing it's only been 54 days since shibuya puts a lot in perspective
The simple answer is that she just woke up half an hour before using resonance, so the timing was "random" for them. The only conclusion i got from all this is that Nobara had to be taken out the story because her CT is too OP.
I imagine they were trying to wake her up long before that
I feel like Nobara being out of the story thoughout the culling games makes total sense bc what was she going to accomplish during them? Her being gone also strengthened the dynamics between Yuji and Megumi.
@@DigiMeatYT agreed, but it's sad. She had potential to be the best female character in a shonnen to date
@@macktheknifee9301i mean , maki is right behind her , the girl literally slaughtered her entire clan and went round 2 against naoya when he became a curse.
@@antoniocarlosoliveira9146 maki just became toji 2.0
Pretty sure they got Nobara to use “Resonance” RIGHT after she woke up.
Yes it's stated she woke up a half hour before. So she'd been asleep that entire time.
@@6785yyComatose. She was comatose.
@@MANJYOMETHUNDER111 What did that do to disprove anything I just said. Yes she was. But she didn't wake from it until 30 minutes before she used resonance on Sukuna...
@@6785yybeing in a coma and sleeping isnt exactly the same thing but si, she did wake up half an hour before
They were probably trying to wake her up before that. It's unlikely she just naturally woke up
Yuji said he has the power to end Sukuna, I am curious to know how he planned to kill Sukuna without the convenience of Nobara and Megumi's intervention
This!
Gege forgot about that too
Damn gege forgot about everything
Punching
Never let them know your next move, the opponent that wins the mental battle wins the war!
Literally all gege had to do was just write that she’s been up for a while and kept hidden so yuji and by extension sukuna doesn’t know, exactly like what he ALREADY did with todo. I knew she wasn’t dead too because she was never blatantly shown or stated to be dead (general rule of thumb in fiction) but this was just too convenient and could have been given a much better explanation.
That would explain megumi’s refusal to speak about it when Yuji asked him
that wouldve made the OPP reference she made funnier too
@@jd50053 still, the "I get it" from Yuji in that scene is so dumb for me. Like imagine that interaction in real life without the dramatic shots on their eyes from the manga
If she was up earlier the fight would have ended earlier
I would like to add a thought to your explanation about Nobara's timing:
When we observe Yuji, Megumi and Nobara, we'll find three archetypes of learning paths:
Yuji faces all facets of life, learns step by step and has a growing performance curve.
Megumi has to do some shadow work (literally, too..) and has to get to his core of despair, shame and guilt to overcome it.
And Nobara is, to use Gojo's words, a bit crazy ^^ In the beginning I was a bit annoyed by her because she seemed to be so full of herself :D I need to be faaar more patient if I wanted to teach her. She had a big mouth and wasn't calm enough to channel her energy - and latter was the requirement for her to grow. So life, as hard as it is, knocked her off to make her shut up for a while so she can work in her stamina/perseverance/staying power.
We didn't know for a very long time if she was well enough, but we definitely knew for sure that she wasn't declared dead. She just had to go a different path than her friends.
I love the fact that Yuji attacked Sukuna from near distance while Megumi attacked Sukuna from the inside. But we needed also someone who attacks him from long distance - who could get the job done? ;)
Gojo surely is very proud of these kids :) And also of himself for teaching them how to cooperate in baseball.
(Sorry for the long text x) Greetings and hugs from a nerdy literature teacher! 😋 )
Hippety thank you so much, I love this analysis! I talk about it in my video here: ua-cam.com/video/n5aq0PhAHCA/v-deo.html
Also much love for being a lit teacher, I can definitely attribute a lot of my passion for this to one of my lit teachers!
@@ManganimistYT 🧡📚🤓🥳
I actually think the resonance technique hitting may have stopped sukuna's domain from expanding. I think this because:
1. When sorcerers domain clash, the presence of two or more techniques nullifies the techniques imbued in the barriers.
2. When activating domain amplification, incoming techniques get neutralized by the enhanced innate domain (which may in some way hold the user's technnique)
3. Nobara's technique seems to hit the soul, which we know from Mahito and Yuji's interactions with Sukuna, is at least very closely related to somebody's innate domain.
So, Nobara's technique uses a severed piece of the opponent to strike their soul. When she does this, her technique is forced onto their soul/innate domain. The hit does damage to the soul no matter what, but the presence of 2 techniques active in the same body may nullify the target's technique just like in a domain clash. And if Sukuna had already begun expanding his domain when the resonance hit, it could have canceled out his cursed technique and therefore ended the domain. That counts even if it was early in the process of expanding the domain, so Sukuna was put back on cursed technique burnout, which he can no longer even heal, much less wait out, since he gave himself brain damage gojo-style to even get that domain off.
Thinking about it, Nobara is THE archetypical Jujutsu sorcerer, and a crazy powerful tool to have in the shed. We should have seen a lot more from her.
It still peeves me that Nobara was clearly dropped solely because her technique was just strong but wasn't convenient like Infinity. Gojo got all this clout, Nobara was insulted. And the same goes for Todo. Gege didn't give her some kind of injury or draw back from surviving Mahito, nor did he create opponents she'd struggle against. He just booted her off the face of the earth and pulled her out the tool box when it was convenient. Sure, there is a given reason for it, but it's very convenient that she just happened to wake up now, and that we heard nothing of her for the entire time she would have been useful.
The reason it feels particuarly bad in nobaras case is they werent activley doing anything to wake her up.
A lot of plot convienent timing does happen but normally that is too just make a scene feel more tense. "The heros struggles in a clash but at the last possible moment he got it done" such as gojo beating sukuna in the domain opening.
Nobara on the other hand was knocked out for 2 months in a coma and it just so happens her natural recovery was timed right then. It comes across as gege not having a way to keep abilities from completely ruining his plot and needing to come up with hand wavey solutions to make it work out
And shes far from the only example. Gege had no way for mahoraga to adapt to unlimited void so he had megumi suffer the consequences for it. Which could be fine but megumi was completely unhindered by this and was just fine to help beat sukuna in the end. Todo also only figured out his technique at the exact moment against kenjaku for some reason.
We don't know if they were trying or not. I think the problem is that Gege always leaves things vague. That's part of why he's so successful tho. Vague means more online theories, meaning more free marketing
Yea I wish we got more background on how did Nobara recover, since she didnt get idle transfigured, but rather just lost her eye, but she did die so rlly curious hoe they brought her back
@eclergt9926 she did get idle transfigured. Thats mahito's CT and how he made her face explode. What you mean is she didnt change into a transfigured human. The damage mahito did is still soul damage. What we really need to know is who tf can heal the soul.
@@edgbarra i mean we knkw the medical team was busy and even if they could do it rct isnt a slow thing theirs no reason to justify it happening now when it didnt work 2 months ago
@@blaneonthemoon2507 she got the same injury as Nanami (season 1) and I don't think that was anything related to soul damage, but rather just damage. By same injury I mean how both Nanami and Nobara protected theit soul from the ability, and just got normal damage
I think what makes Nobara's convenient return hard to swallow is the justification for why she hasn't shown up until now.
Gege used the laziest excuse possible by pulling the "She was in a Coma" card, which to me rivals the "Amnesia" card as one of the worst excuses to keep a character out of the story since you completely remove any agency from the character and they become a prisoner of the plot until the author decides it's time for them to come back.
Maybe if we had had a few chapters where we see her slowly recovering from the coma and being updated on the situation and having to figure out how to recover quickly enough to help in the battle her return would have flowed better and given more weight to the fact that she was in a near-death state for so long.
Exactly. You're preaching, brother.
Literally make her shatter Sukuna's Domain at 261(on top of the things you said).
This isn't a direct win-con, isn't too random, Yuta doesn't have to come in, Todo and Yuji are still f-cking up Sukuna.
Maybe Megumi wakes up, too, just like in recent chapters.
Big agree
that's exactly what we need but it doesnt have to be chapters, in 9 pages they can cover that pretty well
Since we primarily view the story following Yujis perspective. They probably kept her recovery a secret from him on the chance that he and sukuna were mentally linked. That's why her return is just as surprising to Yuji as it is to the readers
True like him comparing it to Goku showing up last minute against the ginyu force doesn’t work for me since they would occasionally cut to Goku training on the pod before he actually landed on namek, so it’s not like they had no idea that Goku was on the way & he just randomly popped up to save them last minute, at least his last minute arrival/save was built up way more than Nobara
Omg Gege's Idol manga is just gonna be the Nobara spin-off!! Her mom had her young but left her with her grandparents to follow her dreams of becoming an idol /s
Putting the “perfect timing” over her eyes is genius. Fair play!
Yea but we can see how Goku is training in his ship while the others are getting beaten by Ginyu force. We were led to believe Nobara was dead and written off just for her to be like opapi mothafuka.
If you think about it, yuji said before even knowing nobara was still alive, that he could kill sukuna. So either way he was gonna kill him/had a way to without nobaras help. That's from my understanding anyway, so how would that make it an ass pull, or perfect timing. Just seems like luck to me and I think it worked perfectly.
Personally, I only have ONE small issue with Nobara's return. There could've been a tiny little bit more foreshadowing in the previous chapters. Like, few randomly occured panels with a heartbeat of an unknown person or characters talking about "final trump card" that might happen or not happen etc. Thats it. More foreshadowing would make that scene less of a surprise, but at the same time it would look much more of a Chekhov's gun rather than deus ex machina
There's some foreshadowing
@@Kadam_01 Definitely. I just think there could be more "prep time" for the reader in 2-3 chapters before actual return of Nobara. It would make her appearance less sudden and swift. But it's just my opinion
@@thecake9910 true but I think it's fine, nice opinion tho.
That's garbage 😂 y'all want foreshadowing when we don't need it. Then ignore the foreshadowing we got
Look up deus ex machina definition you're using it wrong baby bro
The best thing for the story wouldve either been for nobara to just be dead or for there to be more chapters. Them saying "she woke up half an hour ago" and having her be the thing that slows sukuna enough to be finished stole a huge moment from yuji. Did he have the power to end sukuna on his own atp? We dont know. What does his domain do? We don't know. Whats the domains name? We dont know. We dont know anything. This goes beyond just this chapter or this fight. Open ends can help a story in moderation because it leads to discussion and theories but too many open ends can ruin a series.
the name of the domain are not that important to ruin a story and we know that domain was using shrine to hit sukuna's soul. the point was to show sukuna that having people that love and care around you is more important than being the alone relaying only on yourself. it wasn't about can yuji defeat sukuna
I don't think Mahito's domain removed only Todd's hand because it was 0.2 secs. I'm pretty sure Todo cut off his hand (right?) To prevent it from spreading through out his body and killing him.
Correct
Also I don't think people should discount the skill of yuta just cuz he couldn't handle gojos techniques ... gojou literally needed months to figure things out and had a lot of time to get used to things... ofc he is talented but still yuta was able to do a lot with what little time he had
Finally!.
Gojo was the strongest because he was Gojo.
But, yutas' performance was magnificent. Bro was trying to read gojos' memories and yet still put hands on sukuna.
@@okpokadiri4012right! He faked him out and everything. This proved that both Gojo and Yuta are strong because they’re GOJO and YUTA😂
Agreed. I mean yes, they both had done trainings in the past but Gojo had that body since birth.
Going by JJK haters’ logic, Berserk is a terrible story because Skull Knigjt conveniently showed up out of nowhere to save Guts and Casca from the eclipse
Thanks for the berserk spoiler a*hole
@@aritrasaha441 No way you are complaning about being spoiled of a 1990's manga.
Although I like Nobara's return.
This is a horrible comparison. Skull Knight has shown on multiple occasions that he some future cognition, on every occasion that he has shown up he has teased the eclipse.
lol not all deus ex machina are equal, it's not just that Nobara jumped in right on time it's that the story rendered her irrelevant for almost 150 chapters before doing it
@@asianjesus3405 In OP's defense, though, JJK fans are renowned for not being able to read.
If my original super thanks comment shows up don't worry about refunding it, let's try this again lol
Love the vids my dude! Been watching for a few months and you are hands down the best JJK youtuber I've watched. The takes are consistently great and the analysis is always spot-on. It's awesome that you have created this space of positive and interesting discussion to cut through the weird negativity infesting the fandom. But enough glazing, here's what i would really like to hear your opinions on:
Regarding the Claws of Calamity, when the gang is speaking to Tengen, Maki mentions that both the Zenin and the Kamo clan raided the warehouse containing all their cursed tools. Do you think the claws possibly belonged to the Kamo clan? This may be why we do not see them until after Noritoshi trains Yuji in Blood Manipulation. This is my theory of how Yuji obtained them.
In regards to Tengen's Barriers being what holds Curses and Cursed Energy predominantly to Japan, do you think their collapse could open the door for another story to be told in this universe on another part of the world? Would you prefer something like that, a story based in a previous era, or an entirely new story and world from Gege? I believe the latter is most likely what we'll get following the final chapter, but its fun to speculate isn't it?
Excited for whatever comes next for both Gege and this Channel. Thanks Again!
What i hate about nobaras reintroduction it took away from Yuji's hype of him saying he could take out Sukuna
No it didn't lmao
@@Wavedashnoirwell , it did. Because everyone were hating jjk after that.
@@Wavedashnoiryea did because yuji clearly stated that he had the power to kill Sukuna and gege went a brought back a character that hasn't been relevant for 200 chapters because Gege is shit at writing female characters like most male mangaka
@@Blackvoidwithwhiteside7193 everyone? Or just the people who cry on social media (the loud minority)😂 keep crying kiddo
@@undeade.t7044 incorrect. He's shit because you don't agree with him. Not because of writing baby bro. Jjk fans the new DB fans frfr lmaooooo
The main difference with any convenience in a story and the Nobara situation is that with Nobara the caracters went out of their way to leave that unresolved and there was NO foreshadowing to something that important. Mencioning the Nobara theory as an argument without saying the "Crackpot Status" that the theory had for literal years it's just deshonest
Before the battle, Gojo mentioned there was possibly “one” more.
Foreshadowed a long time ago.
@@tebrown2000a throwaway piece of dialogue is not foreshadowing.
@@HabitualThinker not throwaway dialogue at all. This entire arc has been visiting the past.
Who else could it be? (Be reasonable not try to be right).
I’m just saying that foreshadowing can be done muuuuuuuuuuuch earlier in a story. Hints per se.
@@tebrown2000I just don't get why hehe didn't just tell us she's in a coma
@@thebwarrior7410my personal theory on why: cause it gives away his ending. He’s always had the plan of either 1 person lives, or 1 person dies. If he lets everyone know she’s in a coma still alive, that kinda gives away that ending. Unless he somehow killed both Yuji and Megumi along with Gojo. But that seems unlikely
Being completely unbiased and goo goo crazy bc that’s what fanatics and I wanna be different individuals tend to do , it was poor writing . Idk how anyone can say that it isn’t. Sure everyone lives . Idk why there’s this cliff hanger about yuta . Like we know he alive . But it felt rushed . There was soo many topics introduced early on that never got mentioned again. Gege started strong but he just half assed the rest . You can clearly tell that he didn’t gaf. A whole fight with hakari and urame ,.. not even off screened bc she just killed herself . Takaba ? Is he dead ?
Manganimist will disagree. He is a professional jjk meat eater because his career is built on it
@Commonsense715 He's allowed to disagree no need to resort to name calling just because you might have opposing opinions on a manga series
@@quinnozaki-mcneill1688he goes out of his way to avoid saying anything negative about the series or gege’s writing, lol. It’s one of the ONLY bad parts about him, is that he’s incredibly dishonest when it comes to thay
@@HabitualThinkeryou guys are delusional good lord
@@Commonsense715 lol like if there’s anyone out there that was genuinely a fan of the series , from start to end that feels like yeah the story is complete? Never saw the 3 major curses at all. Never saw yujis other brothers . It’s almost like what was the point of saying they existed just to never see them. lol fuck it , jjk was a lot of filler then
Literally the only thing needed to be said is that sukuna was simply too strong and could have sent feedback though resonance we have reason to believe that it’s possible especially with Curse speech
Nobora coming back at the exact moment when she did was luck. Gojo being born when he was born was luck. Yuji having his grandpa in his life was luck. Kenjaku being relatively unserious was luck. The conditions of Sukunas possession being a point of weakness was luck…etc etc…We control very little of our lives, but the parts we do control are our responsibility to make the most of; use skill to make our own luck
There's a difference between the luck that makes a story and the luck that feels like it just disrupts it
@@gammaf1365 It felt like catharsis to me, a positive disruption
I remember Wukongggg got ratio'd on the replies for this comment, and it made sense. I appreciated Gojo's creativity in his CT use even more after seeing Yuta fumble the whole bag in his body (for the most part)
Thanks for shining some light on my doubts man, I guess it makes me feel a little better about the situation❤
I think the person who is yelling at yuta is a family member of gojo. They are training him to be the next head of clan. They'd still wanna keep close to their family techniques plus yuta would still be extremely powerful once he master's everything.
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I think you are spot on about Nobara's timing. Whenever she entered it would have made a huge impact and "it would still be the perfect timing"
However there are 2 things to consider.
Had she awaken before the fight it would have felt much more natural. The thing about leaving her to she just woke up is what makes it feel very lucky.
Had they made it to we just woke her up, or we had been keeping her in secret from yuji, or we were waiting for this exact moment when sukuna would be the most weakened because there was only one chance with this....
Also it is only after sukuna receives Nobara's technique that Yuji is finally capable of taking down Sukuna.
Like it was about to be shown that Yuji would defeat him without her, so it kinda steals his thunder a little. but more important than that. like it is inmediatly over after Nobara that makes her entrance just too perfect.
Also that we didnt see any backfiring of the technique or how Yuji now changes modifys his technique to better take advantage of Nobara's technique. Like she just zapped him and he was done.
So it is a matter of how it was portrayed I think. It could have felt a bit more rewarding,
On another note, I'm not sure why but it didnt made such an impact on me when I saw her. Like being introduced by gakuganki kind of ruined it for me a little bit. Like the surprise was gone too fast, there were zero doubts it was her. Idk
Couldn't Nobara's attack be timed by the "crows/tv watching the fight"?
Good point.
Gege is crazy with the symbolism. Cooking
Unfortunatly the fans dont care about symbolism , they care about " good fights " and " a good end for the villains " .
Gojo showed hes the strongest because he is Satoru Gojo. NOT the other way around. His creativity and quick thinking was unmatched. Had Sukuna worried even with the plan he had with Paparaga. Yuta is just as analytical and couldnt cook like Gojo did in his body. Id say he answered that question in his fight with Sukuna. Yuta flopping just reaffirmed that
Sukuna is the strongest not Gojo. Enough with the agenda pushing please. Or else it's gonna end up like how people actually think Goku is a bad father bc of literal decades of agenda pushing
@@Un_Named05 Gojo is strongest lmao Stay mad
given the story's heavy themes about karma in jujutsu, and the overall sense that a lot of the story is about young Japanese people's struggles to move forward in life in a society that still hangs on to a lot of weird, destructive old traditions (to be clear, every society has their own version of this problem, i'm not singling out Japan here), i tend to think the timing on Nobara's return is less about plot convenience or coincidence and more about elements of jujutsu society's outcasts, sacrifices, and tragic exploitative deaths boomeranging back as the world itself moves on and begins to leave behind old ideas.
that said, as much as i usually prefer stories to be subtle about this kind of thing, i'll fully admit that this one could stand to have a bit of further explanation, so if my ideas about it don't feel like they're enough for somebody else, that's definitely still fair and i get it.
Even if two sorcerers possess the same innate technique, the difference between the user's mentality and even the era they are born in slightly modifies the way the technique is expressed.
We see this with the application of Yuji’s shrine being very different to Sukuna’s. The limitless and Ten Shadows however seems to be pretty straight forward how do you think Gojo’s usage of Limitless w/ six eyes would differ from users of the past? What about ten shadows?
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Gojo glazers are so crazy; theyll compare a Yuta with like a couple hours of experience using six eyes limitless vs. a man whos been using it his entire life and say yup. Gojos the strongest.
Idk bout the Gandalf thing but we were aware that Goku was gonna arrive on names in fact we the audience heavily anticipated Goku's arrival but ain’t a soul was anticipating Nobara's which what I believe the difference is. The only thing saving it from being Deus ex machina is simply that one phrase from nitta.
Kashimo being stronger than gojo and sukuna sounded hilarious I wish I got to see the video before it was privated
I thoroughly agree with wukong. It took gojo years to become the strongest. I feel yuta can achieve the same level with the same amount of time. Maybe even less
Imo yuta in gojos body is geges way of paying the ultimate respect to Gojo, truly admitting that he doesn't just have a busted technique and that it's only a part of his strength, his strength came from skill
I think the mention of nobara waking up 30 minutes before was to address exactly this question of why not during any other fight why now. Like a it came now because she woke up just now.
I really love how you found the nicest way possible to correctly label toxic antis and laugh at them. Their wishes for the fight are actually braindead 😊
You always get this triggered by people just simply wanting different things and outcomes? It's life .. don't be a triggered feminist for nobara
@@Broly0fSteel sincerely, grow up.
@@DigiMeatYT what did he do
@@angelquinones1132 they brought their silly political agenda into a discussion about anime in an attempt to denigrate someone who's simply spitting facts.
@@DigiMeatYT the first part i get the second i dont because that is frankly a opinion
The thing with Nobara is storytelling and timing in writing. If someone wanted to talk about how she showed up 5 chapters to the end, that’d be one thing, but just randomly dropping her would also be called bad writing at that point
I still love jjk. But it does fundamentally break the final arc.
Fundamental how? Lmao
@@Wavedashnoir because if team good has access to resonance the entire Shinjuku showdown/sukuna cycle never should happen.
@@ryanshaw8375 the story would be over and done with. It's almost like this is how writing a fucking comics works or sum. You cannot be this stupid
@@ryanshaw8375 They didn't though? She did Resonance as soon as she could, its not like she was able to do it the instant she woke up.
@@DigiMeatYT you have Yuta who could at any point have eaten a rib or finger so they did indeed have access to it.
Nobara's comeback was pure plot , if she didn't intervened sukuna would have opened his domain and Yuji would be dead as hewould have facede CT burnout plus cursed energy burnout
Almost like the whole point of the manga is that having friends is better than living a solitary existence focused on strength
Yeah, it definitely wasn't foreshadowed AND predicted months ago either. It was all a illusion.
Um buddy. Jjk is a story. It's all pure fucking plot lmaooo
Genuine question, can anything be considered bad writing for Gege? Her return isn’t compelling it’s rushed
@saurmandersauce8048 The Sukuna cycle was getting repetitive. Is he OP? Yeah. Does it make sense for the most part? Yeah. Was it starting to get stale and repetitive? Absolutely. So you could consider it to be "bad writing". I guess it's up to you whether or not you enjoyed her return. Personally, I was happy. Though, I wasn't entirely surprised.
Great work addressing the perceived shortfalls, especially the timing of Nobara's attack not being the perfect time. Something that is easy to overlook in the excitement of the climax.
2:47 Here is a another DBZ moment.
Goku saving Gohan from Nappa with the flying nimbus at the perfect time
U kn what would have been insane
Sukuna after Yuji domain sure hit effect... returning to his last finger after he gets separated like we saw in the panel....
And then Yuji consuming that last one finger which had all sukuna remains combined...thus sukuna getting sealed by Yuji coming full picture...
Then later after some couple slice of life good chapter
Yuji dying in the final chapter surrounding by the people he cares full circle
Everything coming to the end ....
This would hv really worked as this was the original plan ...n grandpa wish coming true to the end ...
This type of ending would hv been amazing in my mind
I think the reason they didnt use resonance early is because they couldnt.
They had no idea where the Finger is untill Yuta got into Gojos body.
Plus Nobara was a sleeping queen
I think I got an interesting theory on Uraume . If you look at the panel you can see a slash on her neck and then she ices out. While reading I thought to myself what if Sakuna cut her throat long ago and she's been using her curse technique to lower her body temperature to stay alive like a zombie to serve Sakuna. It would maybe explain how she has survived these thousand years and why she serves him. Just thought it was strange I haven't heard anybody theory craft that, admittedly there is allot of head cannon there.
I would've been perfectly fine with Nobara coming back at that moment. Just hearing she had woken up was what made it seem lackluster.
Makes no sense
@@Wavedashnoirhearing that she woke up 30 minutes before the scene ruined it for them. Theyd be fine if she was actually foreshadowed or shown some time far before this moment. Or was awake for a while but hidden like todo and his ct.
mei mei has been watching the fight with her crows the moment yuji popped domain she should know now is the pivotal moment to deploy the same nobara they were debriefing 30 minutes ago
13:25 that sketch being the inside cover for 26 is interesting. Gojo’s birthday was December 7th and he was stuck in the prison realm for 19 days and time doesn’t pass there, therefore from his birthday if we add 19+7 we get 26. 26th of December is when Gojo actually turns 29. We weren’t told the timeline after Sukuna’s death on purpose because it might be the 26th and that would be a dead giveaway for his comeback.
Also nobara was intentionally written off bc she was too powerful huh? Damn. Gege made her too strong and so cut her off...😂
No 😂
Yeah momo is up there in strength too
Not to mention , all that shit with sukuna just to have it end like that ? Something they could have did a long time ago when you think about what it really took to defeat him.
How do you think death works💀💀💀 jjk fans fucking stupid
What if the one screaming at yuta is inumaki? That would leave an impact specially considering the fact that he can’t talk normally without possibly harming himself or others
A spinoff where Gojo forced himself to be Sukuna's best friend in the afterlife.
my theory about what happened with uraume is that we know that uraume's able to preserve cursed spirit flesh after its death, which is why they're sukunas chef. so theoretically, maybe they were keeping themselves going despite all of hakaris hits by doing the same preservation on themselves. so when sukuna died, rather than unaliving themselves, uraume moreso "let go"
Let it go , let it go , cant hold it back anymore 😂.
I don't think we have a good idea of how much time passed in yujis domain. They walked around for seemingly hours.
Where do you get your rings my man? They look fire. Keep up the good work! Always here for that daily manganimist dose! 🤙🏻
it's not that Nobara woke up just 30 minutes prior it's more so how her resonance wouldn't do anything if Yuji just didn't pull a DE which he never had before out of nowhere so 2 coincidences and 2 luck or plot conveniences happening at the same time, which many people have problem with.
That's literally how all stories go buddy. It's it's called natural progression. Ofc yuji was going to get de tf lmaoo
one character was presumably dead and another did not have any DE and then both things are suddenly there very conveniently 1 luck is fine but 2 lucks back to back is bit much also saying "lmao" doesn't make your comment any smart.
Nobara's return was unsatisfying because it didn't feel like it should've been up to luck but it did and at the same time it took way too long. There was setup but it would be like if Gojo came back to help Yuta because the body is the soul and the soul is the body. It was still cool but it really just took way too long that I no longer considered her alive
6:46. I understand the point, but the circumstances are completely different. While Yuta did nowhere near as well as Gojo vs Sukuna despite literally having Satorou as a teacher, he had at most a month to train (which pales compared to the years of time Gojo would have had to train, with help from information within his clan). So imo it doesn't answer the question at all.
Since it seems the last few chapters will be focused on saving Yuta, if we get anything conclusive, it'll happen then.
Urame’s neck looked like it was cut but frozen so she wouldn’t die. I’m assuming hakari somehow basically decapitated her.
When disecting dialogue of this manga it's important to acknowledge that this manga is originally written in japanese and john werry can be confusing sometimes.
Nobara was hinted back when Shoko, (Manager Man forgot his name), and Gojo were talking…
There was still one more 😊
That’s your foreshadowing.
The person who said son of a b is todo. Because he always wanted to fight Yuta again and now he can’t
Dude ui ui and the parry lord were literally saved by Miguel at a perfect moment. And something like that happens a lot in other series.
And it's still bs, but Miguel was at least known to be alive and operational at the time
That case was technically out of nowhere as well but we know yuta was in africa for some time and also had contact with gojo throughout it. Its not as ambiguous as the nobara situation was.
At any point of the fight her waking up would’ve been helpful no matter what there was no perfect time for her just a necessary one if she wakes up while sukuna fights gojo there’s no better time
Dejavu
Gojo wanted to fight Sukuna 1v1
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Thats all you have to read into it.
Gojo asked the others to try to save megumi on his own
Since there is still confusion on why domains and anti domains like hollow wicker basket drop here's my interpretation based on multiple translations and comparing multiple different peoples opinions: domains and anti domains work like concentration in D&D. If you take enough damage or a huge single hit, you have the chance of losing concentration and dropping whatever concentration was empowering. That's why Gojo and Sukuna kept saying they just needed to damage each other to drop the others domain. That's why Nobara's suprise attack canceled wicker basket
to me 236 if Gojo permanently die is already a happy ending for him. When Shoko (his final friend) had given up on him during Yuta's flashback there is no more reason to go back in the living world.
Alright normally I’m all for the positivity and understanding, but comparing Goku’s arrival on namek to her return is similar to comparing apples to oranges.
Goku was blatantly shown heading to namek for quite some time prior to the Ginyu force beating up on Vegeta, Krillin, and Gohan. Nobara wasn’t seen at all since her incident in Shibuya.
Also, Nobara’s cursed technique could be applied equally useful against… well 100% of the verse so the foreshadow there is somewhat moot. Lastly, I think the suddenness of Gege revealing they are ending it soon may have made her return feel even more hastened than it probably would have otherwise.
Now why'd you do that 4:48 looooool skrr skrr
Do u think we will be able to see nobara's and yuji domain expansion case we never saw her domain expansion and it would be nice to know what more can yuji's domain can do
My only issue is why didn't yuta use resonance the finger during the gojo v sukuna fight since I'd think that yuta could do much more damage with it causing gojo to win at any point (probably most effective during the domain clash)
The Fantastic Tales of The Countryside Kugisaki Clan - I would read it for real
I think when someone calls a “person son of a bitch” it’s usually an insult to the person, not the mom. I get the meaning but i dunno
If Shonen jump didn’t make Mangaka pick the date for their ending then Gege could’ve make 3-4 more chapters
The ultimate proof to me that Gojo is the strongest because he’s Gojo and not the other way around is the fact that Sukuna had to come up with a one of one solution to defeat him. Sukuna gave up the ability to use his most powerful technique with no restrictions specifically to beat Gojo in this one time battle, assuming that he would never have to face another opponent like Gojo.
The thing about convenience is that this fight is filled with critical moments, Nobara could've showed up in a 100 different places and it'd been just as “convenient" because there were just so many points in the fight where Sukuna was almost defeated, anytime during Gojo VS Sukuna, when Higuruma got the Executioner's Blade , Yuta's domain, Maki's ambush, Yuji's Dismantle, Nobara showing up here wasn't anymore convenient for the heros as it was for Sukuna thst she didn't show up before so I don't think it's badly written in any way
3:40 pretty much
What if the reason sukuna being a blob is actually binding vow of cursed object
You're awesome been wanting to ask something for awhile. Who smokes that green in jjk? And what other drugs do any other characters do? I always thought if Kenny body swapped into someone with a drug addiction he'd be hooked so he low key does some drugs or something.
Lol Nate thank you so much for the support! I talk about this here: ua-cam.com/video/rLP2YRqFRpA/v-deo.html
Don’t want yuta to die cause I just want him and maki to get together
Isn't bro married?
Yh to a dead 11 y old. Think bro can move on
personally i think nobara could only hit sukuna after a certain point in the fight cause it probably wouldnt have done much earlier than the point it did
Nobara may has stitches under the eyepatch
Could Sukuna's heal on Megumi been the cleave's reverse curse technique of mending things together?
Stories are made on coincidences and convenient timings, thats like 99% of every story ever told
I feel like the best cursed corpse trio would be Gojo (Ego), Higuruma (superego), and Takeba (Id)
Yuji could have won without Nobara at that point since hwb was the only thing really protecting Sukuna from defeat . Nobara was super convenient plot wise but she pretty much just sped up the eventual defeat regardless of how you feel about how her return was written. She was definitely written out of mostod the story since her ct is too good against Sukuna.
Luck is such a huge theme in jjk.
12:30 NO
the narrator tells us yuji landed 7 black flashes ON THE BARRIER BETWEEN SUKUNA AND MEGUMIS SOUL
he landed 8 consecutives total , just only 7 on the barrier , count em urself bro
then 9 before yuta jumps back in , and 10 final one
I think one of the BF in that chapter was Sukuna's
I mean about Nobara's timing you could say it's a lazy writing. She suffers the same fate like Gojo, getting thrown away out of stage since her ability can't make the story progress forward. If Gojo didn't get sealed then the story would just end with good side victory. If Nobara was not put in comatose state then gojo would just kill sukuna without any dramatic battle or death.
The only issue for me is that her character kinda shallow since unlike Gojo we haven't learned much about her. It's like she was created to just helping main casts kill Sukuna.
Good afternoon,
So my cousin and his bro-in-law been debating on whether the force(SW) can bypass infinity.
Mainly could Darth Vader force choke gojo while it's activated?
Lol I told I'll see if you could settle their debate cause I'm tired of hearing them 😂
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i interpreted that uraumes head was frozen in place with their technique tho
How the hell, someone seriously said yuta in gojo's body did more than gojo himself
Like how?....gojo drop sukuna's output to half,curse energy to half,take out his rct for how many chapters,throw out his domain for god knows how many chps, delete maho-chan,
And teach him how to reboot the burnout
6:55 let's be honest if yuta had 20 years to train with gojos abilities he would easily be as strong if not stronger than gojo
It's like Piccolo pull ups to conveniently always save Gohan from bad spots. And those pull ups are always the hardest in the series.