@@helmtk4562 Gojo can tell what your CT is but he cannot exactly know how it works the way Sukuna does know how Gojo's kit works because Gojo freaking explained it to Yuji who contains Sukuna within him LOL. Sukuna's arsenal was changed greatly by his binding vows so to assume Gojo would be able to tell how those binding vows amplify Sukuna's CT is just out right wrong as if something as broken as that could be down by the six eyes then how tf did it not tell Gojo that the slash sent by Sukuna was aimed at the space he exist onto thus bypassing infinity because it is applied to him and not the "space" that he exist in.
@@KeironRodriguez-jk2rzBcz that slash was used through a binding vow, not normally. And gojo does know how a CT works by just looking at it as he literally explained how Miguel's CT worked by looking at him.
@@KeironRodriguez-jk2rz Gojo did not tell yuji how UV works he only spoke about how domains work and sukuna work it out because he experienced it and if gojo wanted to know about MS he could have asked choso or even angel since they knew he had an open domain
If he survives to his prime as we saw him the story then he’d probably use more binding vows like Sukuna. Since I think he would be pushed to do so by the many special grade sorcerers around at that time looking for a fight. I really think if he was born and raised in the Heian Era he’d be a lot like Sukuna just without his extra arms and face.
Also don’t forget due to domains not focusing on sure hits but rather an extension of the CT in the heian era, gojo would have to think more and adapt to those acts rather than a straight domain clash
@@snax7760would he? he would be like sukuna where his ct and domain are just so much more overpowered that it really wouldn’t make him adapt that much
I made the same argument a while back. If Gojo had grown up with actual competition there is no doubt in my mind that he cooks Sukuna. I mean my man had only one hard match in his 29 yrs and then he was fighting the binding vow spammer, and doing well!
So why didn’t the people of the past do that? Because of balance in the JJK world. Gojo was born and stronger curses emerged. Why do u think Gojo is considered the strongest 6 eyes user in history. It’s Because of balance. With all the strong sorcerers running around it would be impossible for a 6 eyes users to be that strong.
The only thing Gojo was lacking in comparison to Sukuna was his mentality. He was burdened by his title as the strongest while Sukuna relished in it. Like if you get rid of Gojo’s weight off his shoulders and make him relish in his power then he’d just be as a big a threat as Sukuna. Could potentially beat him depending on if Gojo uses more binding vows, the applications of his domain and any other abilities he could acquire through awakening a similar mentality as Sukuna.
@Allons-Y-04 You can't call Angel sane, I mean she literally said that she would only free Gojo if the others help her beat The Falllen, who was Sukuna, even though freeing Gojo as soon as possible would have ended the ruling games.
Imagine if Gojos domain didnt have a barrier, like sukuna domains, everything in 100 mile radius just gets hit with infinite void, imagine your just walking normally then you get 187 trillion informations in your mind.
This is literally the reason each time is see the statement that Sukuna and Gojo isnt close i laugh. Do you want to know how really close they are? They are so close that if you give Gojo an open domain, he straight up wins. Doesnt matter what sukuna does, doenst even matter that he has TS and mahoraga adapted to the sure hit. He just loses
But gojo wouldnt do that, in shibuya one of the reasons he got sealed was because he couldnt use his domain to its full power because of the civillians (normal humans around) to kill jogo mahito and Hanami choso
The only reason Sukuna lived past the 6-part domain clash is that he popped Mahoraga just in time. He would have dead *lost* if Mahoraga hadn't been there. He also would have lost to the Purple Nuke if Mahoraga hadn't adapted to Limitless as much as it did. Fun.
Two wrong statements here. Sukuna didn't luckily summon Mahoraga, Mahoraga was already summoned and simply appeared when Sukuna was incapacitated. That is how Sukuna used the wheel even without Mahoraga present- technically, the shikigami was still hiding in his shadow. Second, this is outright stated to be untrue. How only was Mahoraga killed, we don't even know if Mahoraga's adaptations can transfer directly to the host. The adaptations could've even reverted once Maho died. Furthermore, was nd most damningly, it was STATED by GOJO that SUKUNA did not adapt to Limitless, only Mahoraga did.
@@prez.cookie980 The whole point is that Heian Sukuna would not have Mahoraga to save his life OR to help him develop the world-cutting slash, hence hewould have dead lost if Mahoraga wasn't there. It doesn't make a difference if Mahoraga was auto-summoned with a binding vow, or if it was summoned the whole time and hid in the shadows, or if it came on its own to protect its owner from death after having been tamed for the first time in history. And getting stuck on that part of the sentence while ignoring the main point, is something you shouldn't do something else to keep in mind is that Gojo's domain is more deadly than Sukuna's. You can RCT from slashes if they don't turn you into minecraft blocks instantly, and if your RCT is strong enough, even if only for a few seconds, giving you a chance to at least try something. However, you can't RCT from being fully stunned within UV. If Sukuna has 0 knowledge about Gojo's domain, given how common domains were in the Heian Era, there's a very real possibility that Sukuna would want to see what Gojo's domain can do, not expecting it to be so busted, and straight up die because of it. Even if he takes it seriously, if his domain doesn't one shot Gojo, and their fight follows the same progression of Gojo losing 2 domain clashes, then having 2 draws, then having 1 win, Gojo's one out of five domain battle wins kills Sukuna on the spot. Sukuna needs to win multiple domain battles to kill Gojo, wearing his RCT down until Gojo can either no longer heal himself, or no longer open his domain, but all Gojo needs is 1 second and Sukuna is stunned with no Mahoraga to save him Honestly Gojo could just spam his second domain tactic, making his exterior barrier resistant to slashes, meaning Sukuna would have to touch him for the binding vow to strengthen MS. Then all Gojo has to do, knowing that Sukuna will try to touch him, is keep that in mind and not let Sukuna touch him. If he knows it's coming it's easier to avoid, and again all Gojo has to do is succeed once out of 5 domain battles
@@AstroCS2 you critically misunderstood this conversation (talking about how a domain clash would go if Gojo had an open domain) and how the Sukuna vs Gojo fight actually went. Sukuna did NOT have a binding vow that strengthened his slashes if he made contact with Gojo. He had a binding vow that strengthened his slashes OUTSIDE Gojo's barrier in exchange for removing his slashes from INSIDE the barrier. The result is that Gojo's surehit is no longer cancelled, so Sukuna needs to find a way around Infinite Void. Domain Amplification works, but he can't adapt while using it, so it would work on the short term but lose for his adaptation plan. He remembered that Yuji wasn't targeted when Gojo fought Jogo, and figured anyone in contact with Gojo is excluded from the surehit effect. So, he made sure to stay in contact with Gojo to adapt to his domain whilst avoiding the damage
@@prez.cookie980 That is what I said though, I never said Sukuna had a binding vow to make his slashes on Gojo stronger, i said he had to touch Gojo and disable his own sure hit in order to use a binding vow to buff his slashes on the outside of Gojo's barrier (domain barrier) which is what broke Unlimited Void's barrier and hence the domain Also Sukuna touching Gojo means he is not hit by the Unlimited Void sure hit, so that does not make him adapt. The adaptation comes from him disabling MS sure hit on Megumi's soul, and having Megumi's soul be constantly hit by Unlimited Void, with Mahoraga's wheel on Megumi. Something that Heina Era Sukuna would have no access to
2 things that you probably should've taken into account are 1: he wouldn't have had a quidebook to the Limitless, nor would he have had as good of an understanding of it due to the lack of modern science. 2. Simple domain (and possibly falling blossom emotion) didnt exist back in the Heian Era. As far as we know, Hollow Wicker Basket was the only anti-domain technique that was known back then.
While yes that's true we've seen gojo be an innovator of his own technique on many occasions. I think removing the confines of what the limitless can do from his mind would open up more use cases for it because gojo would be forced to innovate even further on it.
How did modern science help Gojo improve his abilities? In the Heian era he might not have known that poisons can be fended off by repelling the molecules making them up but he couldn't do that in the present either.
@@xCorvus7x Back in the heian Era, math and science probably weren't as standard and common practice. Gojo not only had crazy resources as to being born into a modern Gojo clan, but he was also given a full education including science and cursed energy. And let's not forget how he received formal training. New scientific discoveries are being found constantly. The understanding of space and physics would be nowhere near how it is now 1000+ years ago.
@@lekacious339 I know that scientific understanding of the world and mathematical exploration of abstract logic were not as far in the Heian era as they are today but the question is what the advancements in those fields did for Gojo. For instance, the mathematical understanding of infinity certainly deepened since the Heian era but given that the Limitless technique existed back then and there were people who could use it just as Gojo does, the people of the Heian era (or at least the members of the Gojo clan) must have had some grasp on it, so what did this mathematical progress really contribute to Gojo's abilities?
@@xCorvus7x Heres the thing though. As far as I know, there is no confirmation that people in the heian era could use Limitless the same way Gojo does. It's already confirmed that Gojo is the strongest user in history. We specifically see that Gojo uses his knowledge of molecules and other scientific principles to advance his infinity specifically. In the heian era, not only would this probably not even be known, but if it was, it wouldn't be widespread.
*If Sukuna was nervous the World Slash, Ten Shadows and His Heian Form wouldn't be enough for Gojo safe to say if Gojo got sent back to the Heian Era he pretty much low diffs Sukuna*
@@Icyhot_majin yup me personally if I was Sukuna I would've done much worse, I can see why you can think it's a high diff but to me I think the difference in Stats and abilities would be enough to be a low diff in Gojo's favour
I wanna say that everyone that keeps saying that "Gojo said he wasn't giving it his all" misunderstood it after this last chapter. After it said sakuna had to binding vow away the flames fighting gojo, you should be able to correlate it with gojo saying that. Remember gojo can see what you can do with your technique from his eyes, same way he looked at clone technique dude and others.
Reason he couldn’t use the flames was it said he kept changing the range of his domain so that fucked up his vows for flames. In theory if he just maxed the range for malevolent shrine he could use the flames
@@IsThatAThaiNameHe couldn't use it because he had to keep changing conditions, not range. He can only add so many conditions to his domain. His fire arrow requires two by default to be effective, but more importantly, it wouldn't really change anything. The fire arrow is overrated. If Choso could make Yuji walk out almost unscathed despite being much weaker, it isn't really doing much.
@@randomdude6446 choso likely used a binding vow to sacrifice his own life, and range is the condition the manga specified at least in the translation I saw
@@IsThatAThaiName The translations consistently emphasize conditions and range as for the whole binding vow thing gege would have stated so if that was the case
This is still untrue. Even if UV was barrierless, Sukuna is superior in domain techniques overall, with better barrier proficiency and better domain amplification (if Gojo even HAS domain amplification). Sukuna's surehit is also FAR superior in terms of destroying other domains, which is what allowed him to win the clash. Yes, being barrierless helped significantly. But he would've won those clashes in the end anyways, since he has the ability to attack barriers with his surehit and Gojo doesn't.
@@prez.cookie980 UV and Malovelant shire already are equal in refinement if it becomes barrierless then by will be equal completely than it comes to hand to hand combat and we all know how it is gonna go
@@Anixd094 Sukuna didn't get dominated in h2h up until he disabled his surehit inside, which buffed Gojo because domains buff stats. Yes, their domains would cancel if their range was identical, but this isn't exactly exclusively beneficial to Gojo. It would just mean Sukuna would need a separate solution to collapsing the barrier, and they would probably both compress their ranges to increase surehit potency.
Gojo was bending Sukuna over before Mahoraga joined the fight; the fact of the matter is that Sukuna used the Megumi Special, and if he hadn't, he would have been folded and put in Gojo's sock drawer.
It feels like people forget that and meatrides his statement "I don't think I would've won if he wasn't using the ten shadows". He literally knocked him unconscious and had him in his infinite void. Hell he literally almost had the win if it wasn't for him having a yap session at the very end
@@Varxiiiwe havnt forgotten it, its just irrelevant since those things wouldnt have happened if Sukuna wasnt rocking mahoraga. Its you guys that keep forgetting that there are drawbacks to using mahoragas adaptation such as not being able to use anything else but the ten shadows technique, not being able to use domain amplification, having to play an entirely defensive game where taking non lethal hits speeds up the process. Yall like to compare the fight as if Sukuna would do the same stuff when not having mahoraga. Its just illogical.
@PandoloFox yeah but I think they would domain clash the same way because if gojo domains first either sukuna does or he dies. And we see very clearly that gojo definitively wins in a domain clash scenario. And getting caught in gojos domain is death. End of story.
@@charadreemurr7177 It wouldnt, its already been stated by gojo in the domain clashes that Sukuna was attempting risky shit to prolong the domain clashes. In a fight without mahoraga Sukuna would not do this.
@@charadreemurr7177 sukuna lost 0.01 second, but what if sukuna use his form, that has 2 mouth and 4 arm. Gojo not even have a chance to beat sukuna domain in domain clash
Sakuna had to literally develop a move against gojo with the help of 2 other Shinigami to figure a way to get past his infinity reliably... Without them, sakuna is simply wiped. It literally shows that when both of them are gassed. Yet gojo hits a black flash, seems amped but then gets one shot due to a new move that sukuna just so happen to get when he was about to fall. If sakuna had not seen the move, he would have never came up with anything, maybe a binding vow... which is plot armor
So Black Flash, the literal luck-based ability, which Gojo landed like 4 of, isn't plot armor? If Sukuna landed 4 black flashes against Gojo, he would've died VERY briefly after.
@@prez.cookie980 Black flash gojo having had the record for.... lands another 4 as he (Has already done in the past)... binding vow, i give something up i receive something. it has merit, when used effectively. Nanami for instance. Sakuna since he has *knowledge can use binding vows to switch up domains... Has the ability to copy after seeing anything related to curse energy... luck-based- No. Its stated once a character hits the (zone) anyone can achieve a black flash.... As fights go on you may find yourself more in the zone.. pretty simple... There is a prerequisite to a black flash You have to Gain Something to get that something.... being in the zone. binding vows have NO prerequisite lol.
so Black Flash, the literal luck-based ability, which Gojo landed like 4 of, isn't plot armor? short answer- No Black flash can be achieved by being in the zone, not everyone can get to that point. binding vow anyone can do on the spot... binding vow=faith... black flash=beating mfs
@@DieHard1912this all means nothing and almost none of it is true. There is 1 sorcerer who can use black flash at will, and even then it’s only speculated. He got lucky
9:24 Hand signs and chants do not affect a domain's output it was never done nor is there any reason to believe that is the case. In fact there is evidence suggesting otherwise.
they do, since the they affect ANY CT's output. That's why Yuta wasnt slice in half when he was hit with the World Cutting slash, since sukuna had to amend his incantations etc. ..
@@Gantaipao uhm u and i both know yuta sliced in half was just confirmed in chapter 261 so i dint know when i was commenting. but yes, you are correct he got cut in half
@@usedtobejosh_dinkshotst_t575 You don't seem to understand how domains work. Domains are kinda like turrets. You give them power and they act independently of you. That's why Sukuna can use DA while using domains. However, that also means chants and signs can't buff domains.
People are forgetting that sukuna is a literal veteran , he fought countless extremely strong sorcerers and even literal armies coming at him While gojo, as talented and strong as he is, He is just a spoiled, golden spoon brat who never had to try hard in a fight except once, and never had the chance to even sweat after he awakened, he actually has zero real battle experience with his awakened powers, he didnt even had the chance to fight someone like ryo and uro, let alone someone like kashimo, the closest he had, is his students, but never a real battle to death, hell, he never even met anyone who knew domain amplification and was actually able to touch him before jogo and hanami (he didnt know what it was, he figured it out during the fight.) he even said it himself, he never had fight long enough to hit more than one black flash, and even jogo, who was probably the strongest curse he ever encountered, wasn't even interesting for him to take somewhat seriously honestly, he probably didnt even know how strong was his full power purple until he used it against sukuna hell If he had grown up in the heian era he would have been a battle hardened experienced warrior like sukuna and not an extremely strong but overly confident newby He would have been a completely different level of menace , a natural calamity, probably many times worse than sukuna, with his raw talent, genius intellect, a life long experience in battle and his almost invincible CT, he would have become a literal god amongst men.
@@Yakobi24 well in a sense i guess, but its actually way more simple, his power is to manifest math into reality for example, his blue- he manifest an infinite series of negative numbers into reality in a certain area, but the problem is, negative numbers don't really exist, so it creates some kind of a reality glitch, a hole in the fabric of reality, so reality itself tries to correct the error, by filling said "hole" with the space and matter around it, problem is, is that the negative numbers are infinite, so no amount of matter will fill this "hole" ,and so effectively this blue area becomes a black hole of sorts that sucks in and destroys everything around it. red- is the opposite of that, positive numbers that push space away from it, infinity- Gojo is creating an infinite space around him, an infinite series gradually decreasing numbers, so nothing can actually close the distance( the technical explanation, is the "Achilles and the tortoise paradox" which in this context is explained as- the closer something gets to Gojo, the slower it becomes, so nothing ever reaches him.
@@Yakobi24 I understand his techniques to have less to do with quantum mechanics than with pure mathematics, in particular infinite series. Gege and Gojo bring up Zeno's „paradoxes“ to explain Limitless. One of those is about the movement of an arrow over a given distance: at first the arrow travels half the distance, then half of the remaining distance, then half of what remains after that, then half of what remains after that, so the arrow has to make an infinite number of steps to cover the whole distance. Zeno (an Ancient Greek philosopher) asked, how then it could be possible for the arrow (or anything) to move at all, since making an infinite number of steps in a finite time span is clearly impossible. In reality, this is not an issue because each further step is not just half as long as the one before it, it also takes half as much time, so the infinitely small steps take an infinitesimal fraction of a second to travel (in other words, the infinite subdivisions of a finite length also mean to subdivide the travel time infinitely and are functionally meaningless). In mathematics, you sort this out using limits: the limit of the infinite series where with each step you add up the powers of 1/2, 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 ... , is 2; that series converges to 2. Now, the Limitless sounds as if it forced you to not use limits (hence the name) but add up all the infinite partial distances manually, one by one, so that each further step actually takes the same amount of time as the previous one. This is how Zeno's supposed paradoxes assume the world works and then it would actually take an infinite amount of time to cover a finite distance: with each further step you are slowing down. Then the different outputs are about different behaviours of infinite series: Blue means the series converges; Gojo decides to what exactly it converges and things affected by his technique are drawn to that point (since each action has an equal and opposite reaction, this can also be used to move himself around or accelerate his fists). Red means the series diverges: you don't actually get closer to him or any other point in space but get increasingly far away from any given point; the result is repulsion. Purple means to apply both at the same time an at the same point in space which tears apart everything in its path and maybe actually breaks reality.
If Gojo was born in the heian era i believe he'd be stronger due to the difference in total MONSTEROUS sorcerers there, the curve would lowkey send Gojo high in development.
to quote another commenter "People are forgetting that sukuna is a literal veteran , he fought countless extremely strong sorcerers and even literal armies coming at him While gojo, as talented and strong as he is, He is just a spoiled, golden spoon brat who never had to try hard in a fight except once, and never had the chance to even sweat after he awakened, he actually has zero real battle experience with his awakened powers, he didnt even had the chance to fight someone like ryo and uro, let alone someone like kashimo, the closest he had, is his students, but never a real battle to death, hell, he never even met anyone who knew domain amplification and was actually able to touch him before jogo and hanami (he didnt know what it was, he figured it out during the fight.) he even said it himself, he never had fight long enough to hit more than one black flash, and even jogo, who was probably the strongest curse he ever encountered, wasn't even interesting for him to take somewhat seriously honestly, he probably didnt even know how strong was his full power purple until he used it against sukuna hell If he had grown up in the heian era he would have been a battle hardened experienced warrior like sukuna and not an extremely strong but overly confident newby He would have been a completely different level of menace , a natural calamity, probably many times worse than sukuna, with his raw talent, genius intellect, a life long experience in battle and his almost invincible CT, he would have become a literal god amongst men."
Times were tough in the heian era and so were the villians. What I'm trying to say that gojo would load up on both knowledge and skill set as one of sukuna's main advantages over gojo was experience and knowedge giving him access to smart binding vows. Give gojo knowledge and domain buff and sukuna would've been cooked good.
its pretty likely that sukuna learned to heal cursed technique burnout from gojo and its also pretty likely gojo sweeps in all categories due to the fact sukuna is probably a finger or two (possibly more) weaker as they got stronger in the thousand years of roaming (2-4x weaker if we say sukunas fingers are exponential, 5-10% if its just 5% per finger)
I personally feel it has to be exponential due to how much 15 Finger Sukuna dog-walked Jogo when Jogo is around 8 fingers but the power gap seemed much greater than just 2x
When they said sukuna's finger were growing stronger, they meant the presence of the fingers bc the seals were weakened, not that he literally got stronger
The honoured one vs the gooey one, the binding one, the vowed one, the plot-armored one, the fraudulent one, the crying one, the begging one, the slime asmr one
Gojo was a Massive shark in a pond while Sukuna was the same Massive shark but in an ocean, one never faced a threat after awakening his every power for over a decade a third of his life while the other was always finding opponents that pushed him to become the monstrous calamity that he became. So now put one with no real life or death battles after awakening into a few decades of further development with the Heian era Jujutsu and tens if not hundreds of oppoents that will push you, and you get a calamity that would make sukuna look like a candle light in comparission. It's sukuna who was lucky that someone of Gojo's abillities and talent wasn't born into Golden era of Jujutsu because then that equal opponent that would kill you if he had some knowledge of how Shrine works and you didn't have Mahomommy to give the one sure hit through infinity as a blueprint would become a mountain compared to what he was in the era called by sukuna as the weakest.
WE NEED MORE WHAT IF'S. for example. What if Yuji had mahoraga's wheel OR what if Sukuna had another cursed technique. (please type your what ifs in the replies)
My headcanon is that at some point a soul emerged that had the first six eyes within the Gojo clan, and that it's this same soul that keeps being reincarnated again and again and it's actually the ONLY soul that can possess the six eyes, so more like a soul specific ability.
The main reason Gojo lost was due to his lack of creativity with the limitless cursed technique. Sorcerers are known and shown to grow after a tough battle. So much so that Gojo unlocked the imaginary technique purple in the same day after unlocking reverse curse technique. I truly believe if more people could push Gojo the way toji did he would've been a lot stronger.
@@sugan0052 gojo also broke sukuna's domain 3 times by dealing enough damage to him and even readjusted his domain's barriers with binding vows and had a domain stalemate with sukuna for 3 minutes, so it won't be that easy for Sukuna to kill Gojo with his domain
If you are making a video on gojo being born in the heian era also make sure to tweak their abilities acoording to the era as well.As we already know by now that a sorcerers abilities work differently according to the era and their surroundings.So most likely the gojo we see today with infinity would not be the same gojo in heian era because of difference in knowledge and era.
Infinity, though, would be the same. Cursed techniques don’t change depending on science or technology of the era. Though, how much Gojo understands it would be WAYY different.
I've theorized for awhile now that the heads of the three clans, three vengeful spirits, never incarnated as a curse in the usual way but rather into the families techniques. Whether they were the same technique as our modern interpretations or not is up for debate.
Sukuna didn't use furnace on Gojo cause there'd be no point. He can't. He's incapable of using it on gojo, cause dismantle and cleave would never reach him so fire arrow can't be charged. And if it could it wouldnt reach him anyway. He couldnt use it in a domain clash cause of the hcnaged conditions to his barrier, but even when he broke gojo's domain he didnt take the safe route and max his domain range and fire arrow he took the riskier play of trying to get rid of infinity. And it was the right choice cause gojo regrew his brain and CT and continued the fight faster than sukuna expected. Had sukuna tried to take the safe route he'd have lost.
Dismantle and cleave can reach Gojo anyway since its domain sure hit effect, that bypass limitless. Second, Gojo gets CT burn out so there is no limitless in the first place.
@@danilka523 Yeah, but Gojo can run out if Sukuna stops moving to charge fuga. Remember, Gojo would've gotten out immediately if Sukuna didn't stop him in 226.
i also think he wouldve been able to predict sukuna using binding vows to bypass limits. We saw sukuna use binding vows but gojo didnt, so i think if gojo lived in heian era, he could have predicted something like the world cutting slash
no he didn’t he already knew how it worked and the consequences and limitations before even doing it. He doesn’t have any ability to see how gojo did it
@@demarcusjones3219huh? The cast watching the fight I believe kusakabe and kashimo literally said gojo shouldn’t have shown sukuna that because he’ll learn it instantly which happened… wtf are you talking about
Sukuna understood what happens because his deep understanding of jujutsu and how it works. He knew it was stored in the brain. Doesn’t mean he knew he could rct his burnt out cursed technique. You need to go back and read because you’re clearly lackin on the subject.
@@kahlibbustos8523 no what they meant is if he didn’t already know it before he’d definitely know it now.+ logically you teach someone else about something you don’t alr know. he knew exactly the consequences, how to do it (zero practice) the limits of it and exactly how many times a person can do it before causing too much brain damage. all of which even gojo didn’t know
Great Video. But some things that I believe are just crazy. Yes Sukuna does not know that if he touch gojo he won’t be effected. But we do know sukuna can use Domain amp which is a barrier technique that’s had been stated similar to SD and SD is similar to Hollow wicker basket. Therefore, he could still turn off his sure hit for the huge increase in damage but use HWB same time to not get hit and it won’t break cause of his extra hands. Additionally, we have seen to change the conditions of his domains constantly what to say he can’t close his domain with a barrier and spell the barrier by giving the escape route binding vow. therefore just getting it back to the original clashing, which Gojo will lose without prisonrealm knowledge. And lastly the most crazy take is that his tools wouldn’t work. Once Domain amp breaks infinity which has been shown to be bubble like he can attack with his tools. This is further proven by when magi broke infinity and sukuan kicked gojo in the face. Thus he can simultaneously use kamotuke and hiten ability’s if he wanted to.
Domain amp allows you to bypass infinity by making physical contact, but anything that isn't wrapped in it won't bypass Mahoraga would temporarily DISABLE infinity every time he hit gojo
@@wtfhahahaha miss informed a little ill help u out. During the Gojo vs sukuna fight both in I think chapter 224 and 228 shows that once domain amp hits and is broken through other things can hit gojo again like a bubble. 224 sukuna was about to break through infinity just as he cut the building behind gojo. So the building would hit gojo. This is latter proven in 228 when gojo says now sukuna can't use any architectural structure like he did before inside the domain. And last but not least chapter 84 page 13 in context talking about domain amp “It will always neutralize the technique”. Have good day🤝.
it's unlikely because of tengens explanation of kenjaku and the merger, tengen says that kenjaku has killed six eyes users both as adults and children but a new one manifested to stop him, this wouldn't be worth noting if kenjaku killed a six eyes and waited 15 years and be surprised about one appearing, making it more likely that an already existing sorcerer manifested or inherited the six eyes and intervened with kenjakus plan
@@somersaultinggiraffe1901sukunas fingers have collected cursed energy from special grade curses, Sukuna now would have more CE than Sukuna in the Heian Era lmao copium
Gojo legit was growing during his fight against Sukuna, doing things he himself didn't know was possible. If he had time to fully explore the depths of what Limitless can offer because there are opponents that he can challenge himself with, then its safe to say that Gojo would learn not only Open Domain, but also better applications of limitless, blue, red, and purple. Like bro probably did test out his abilities at first by limiting himself against others, otherwise there's no way someone survived 4 consecutive black-flashes from gojo. Once gojo was so far above he likely stopped testing things. Not to mention he needed to teach students. If gojo had an actual reason to keep testing things, like for example in preparation for a fight against Sukuna, he'd be much more incentivized to test things
The one problem i see with scenario one is Hein Era Sukuna's physicality. We have to remember that Sukuna was in Megumi's body when he was fighting against Gojo which is nowhere near as physically strong as the Heian era Sukuna that is currently fighting everyone. A lot of the hand to hand exchanges between Sukuna and Gojo honestly would not go Gojo's way if they were to happen simply because Sukuna has much higher durability, speed, strength, and the extra arms. This is the same Sukuna who bodied Kashimo in his mythical beast amber state, dodged his electro magnetic waves (which if you don't know move close to or at the speed of light), and killed him in less than two chapters. Literally a chapter prior to this, Sukuna was getting blitzed by Kashimo's lightning but when he transformed he is able to avoid full on EM waves. This is the same Sukuna who survived being stabbed in the heart with a soul splitting blade, survived getting hit with a domain expansion amplified Jacobs ladder, survived 9 soul targeting black flashes from an Itadori that is said to be surpassing Gojo, and beat up Maki who he himself compared to mahoraga all within the same day. His durability and endurance is just way too strong for Gojo to just bully him like he was doing while he was in Megumi's body. Physically speaking, if Sukuna and Gojo were to have a hand to hand fight, it wouldn't go too well for Gojo. You can re-analyze the fight between the two of them and even see that a lot of the hits Gojo landed, he simply wouldn't have if Sukuna had extra arms, especially during their second domain clash. Try to disregard the extra arms all you want but those things do matter, especially with how Sukuna uses them on top of his insane physical buff he gets from being in his Heian era body. Those things can cover blind spots and openings or set up for absolutely brutal combinations like what happened when he "fought" Kashimo. This doesn't exactly mean Sukuna would just bully Gojo either, there are definitely some things he could pull off with blue and red to get out of some of the combos Sukuna might try to put him in. But there doesn't really seem to be a real way for him to actually deal damage to Sukuna with just hands. Unless he hits a good 3-4 black flashes (and even then he still might not do much damage, especially after Sukuna ate 9 from Itadori who is at the point of surpassing gojo as said be the editor's comment.) he's not going to be able to do anything. At the same time while Gojo could be levels stronger, so can Sukuna. If you can recall, Sukuna has repeatedly stated that he is not at 100% even in his Heian era form in the current chapters of the manga due to the brain damage he is still suffering from UV. So in this hypothetical he should also be stronger if they are fighting in the Heian era since Sukuna wouldn't be suffering from that brain damage. An open barrier UV just sounds like the most broken thing in existence and the only way i can see this being a low diff in Gojo's favor is if he manages to pull his out before Sukuna manages to get his domain off. At that point it is completely GG for Sukuna, he's done since he can't switch out to Megumi to keep his brain from being completely fried. Good video though, the first scenario was the only one i slightly disagreed with.
I mean I get u but Sukuna’s crazy strength and arms means nothing when Gojo can’t be touched, has hard hitting blue punches and is much faster… if Sukuna can’t beat the domain Gojo does genuinely no diff imo
Sukuna can't box Gojo because he can't hit Gojo. If Gojo didn't have infinity then I would agree but the amount of arms you have doesn't matter if you can't ever hit your opponent
@@Allons-Y-04 Well that's the point of Domain amp, Sukuna can use Domain amp while he's in a domain clash so him not being able to touch gojo doesn't matter when he can... touch Gojo. Also gojo is just not faster than Heian Sukuna, he has displayed nothing that puts him on that level in the series. We can't just say he is, we need evidence of this. Even Heian Sukuna did the whole "moves so fast he looks like he's teleporting" thing against Maki so that definitely isn't a factor.
@@indrainspace2601 I man Gojo can just straight up teleport bro... like he manipulates space to compress the distance between 2 points. He is levels faster... not seen Sukuna travel across the country and back in a matter of seconds lmao. Even if Heian Sukuna uses domain amp he can't use his CT so its just punch kick merchant and no way is that enough to beat Satoru Gojo lmao
If Gojo was in that era, things would've been so much different. First of all, sukuna sealing idea may have never occured. Since Gojo's technique is broken that even sukuna himself had to rely on mahoraga. It's going to be sukuna dead and an age of peace, cause sorcerers In that age was strong compared to today, and they even manage to seal sukuna. If Gojo was there, they would've probably tried to kill sukuna instead. Or an age of chaos, cause they failed to kill him and they all get wiped out, at this point they would've probably try to seal him, but they lacked the preparation because their original plan was to subjugate sukuna. But that's one of the only scenario, there are endless possibilities
I of the biggest things you got wrong is that Gojo and Sukuna are equally talented that's not the case at all I will explain it like chess Gojo has a very big unfair adv against every other Sorcerer the 6 eyes Thai gives him way too much info and other things that other sorcerers don't have yet Sukuna Whose Base is just like any other Sorcerer has Six eyes level efficiency and can copy anything by seeing it once if gojo was as talented as sukuna he would be able to replicate the open domain by seeing it once which didn't happen .even though Gojo has such unfair adv due to six eyes he still can't output RCT unlike sukuna. Gojo is talented but nowhere near Sukuna level no sorcerer is as talented like Sukuna. If Sukuna had six eyes + limitless he would surpass gojo by a mile and that's true Btw great vid
Talent meaning natural aptitude or skill. Gojo’s six eyes and limitless are his talents since they are natural abilities given from birth while Sukuna’s large amount of CE reserves and efficiency were things he’s had since birth. Talent isn’t a thing that can be improved or taken it’s something the user has had since birth. It’s natural for them. We don’t even know how barrierless domains are made. They could just be made by making a binding vow that let’s people escape in exchange for increasing the range while Gojo’s wouldn’t be able to that since his Domain Expansion stuns the people inside it so no matter what they can’t escape making an exchange to increase the range for getting rid of the barrier have no drawbacks like a binding vow should. The reason Sukuna > Gojo is because that 20% percent of hard work applies to the application of one’s CT/CT(s) so using binding vows to his advantage, Sukuna was able to successfully land the world cutting slash with only 1 hand to kill Gojo by learning Mahoraga’s technique to bypass Limitless. Sukuna isn’t more talented than Gojo’s, he’s more skillful in using the abilities he’s acquired in the story to beat opponents on relative strength to him. 🤓
@@THED3ADLY7if I have an extra limb that doesn't mean I have high talent. Talent means skills from birth. Six eyes are not talent, they are physicality
@@Muffin11262Gojo had the six eyes from birth. You literally just said the same thing I said regarding talents. He’s had them since the moment he was conceived. We saw him have them a newborn baby, a child, a teen and a fully grown adult. Talent means skills from birth and CT(s) are talents since birth. Gege had mentioned this in the 1st season where CT(s) are 80% of sorcerer’s power and the other 20% is from mastering it. The limitless and six eyes are the Gojo clan specific talents much like the 10 shadows from the Zenin clan. They are all given from birth. Also the six eyes aren’t just an extra limb though they do so much more than that, they aren’t just there to look pretty so the comparison of extra limb to six eyes makes no sense since you can’t compare them. That’s like comparing a solar panel to a Dyson sphere. Lastly Sukuna’s large amount of CE is a cheat code so don’t act like the six eyes are doing Gojo much better since they equal out in their fight.
@@THED3ADLY7 And with all that sukuna is still more talented. Being able to do things by only seeing them once and his CE efficiency is second to none even now it has only reached yuta’s level after all the fighting.
@@filo-ii2hnseriously how much can you cope this is literal fanfiction but i guess at the end of the day it doesnt matter because gojo is dead and sukuna won
What if fuga is an ancient application of curse energy. For example. Dismantle. Cleave webdismantle and the world cutting slashes are all the usual applications of the curse technique but what if fuga works as a sorta indirect application. Where the way your cursed technique affects the real world ends up creating a new technique for you to use and during the heien era that was common knowledge that’s why jogo wasn’t aware of it
I dont think gojo would be able to do a open domain because he doesnt lose anything by having no barrier if you get hit by uv youre braindead and cant escape so gojo would just gain extra range without any cons
Thats valid but I'm sure a different vow or changing the conditions could still make it possible. Even if Gojo has to sacrifice IV being an insta win he still slams cus infinity
@@Allons-Y-04 That's a completely fair point, yeah. Gojo doesn't *need* the surehit effect of IV to beat Sukuna. He just needs Sukuna's Domain to be a nonfactor. Considering that Sukuna doesn't have Mahoraga in this hypothetical fight, if it's just straight H2H Gojo 100% stomps.
One thing you got wrong is that Simple Domain doesnt exist yet so it would be Hollow Wisper Basket which makes it so your tech doesnt work and both you hands are unless
Also, bit of a Gojo debuff, it’s likely Hollow Wicker Basket would replace Simple Domain and falling blossom emotion was likely not created just yet. This would change domain battles heavily
He'd either die from a domain before he reaches his peak or become the next sukuna, Only reason gojo is a good guy to begin with is because geto was his moral compass and someone he used to look up to. Take him out the picture and he's going to look toward the other people who have similar strength to him heian era which would be actual menaces. *cough cough sukuna*
In terms of stats, Heian era Sakuna would've way more power compared to what we have seen as his stats is one finger higher because Heian era Sakuna has 20 fingers plus his head (equivalent to 1 finger) which is 21 fingers overall. Sakuna's head from his corpse before he fought Gojo is used as a compensation for the missing final finger in order for Sakuna to reach 20 fingers. This era would have a lot of disadvantages. He doesn't know domain amplification. He doesn't know how Gojo's ct works in detail.
Gojo is more of the type to grow a lot from greater challenges and even when the modern era couldn't offer as much as the haein era could've he stull grew to such extreme levels. So If he was truly from the haein era then he would've been on an insanely stronger level than both gojo and sukuna originally were.
Should be noted that in the sukuna low-diff scenario, gojo would not know about the simple domain technique unless he prior fought against a user and managed to copy it. HOWEVER, given the nature of his infinite void, and how fast it comes out and what it actually does (prevent anyone from doing anything because of information overload), i think most if not all simple domain users going against gojo's domain would be incapable of reacting in order to use it in the first place for him to copy. So given that he wouldn't be able to go against a user of simple domain, and he couldn't hear about it from word of mouth (given the creator of it in the heian era forbid anyone from teaching it via binding vows), i think it's very unlikely that gojo would have the ability to use it in the fight against sukuna in the heian era.
Another thing is that the curse techniques of this era is watered down. They adopt what is currently going on in the era making them more complex. The talent pool is wider in the modern day because of the evolution of the people and information is more accessible. Whereas the past sorcerers had to rely on the strongest survives mentality. That’s why u see more “prodigies” in the modern day. It’s the Micheal Jordan in today’s NBA conversation. He was a 1of1 then but now there’s at least 10-20 players that has the athleticism and skills of MJ minus the mindset.
Sukuna glazers wont admit that for Sukuna to win he had soo many advantages ahead of the fight, we werent given what was hyped, Heian Era Sukuna vs gojo
I feel like him and Sukuna would agree on their ideals, though. Given Gojo's ideologies in the Hidden Inventory Arc, if he thought that when him and Sukuna were alive, at the same time. Man, think of that though.
IMO, this vid should've had less of the Gojo vs Sukuna aspect since modern day Gojo could've beaten Heian era Sukuna since he wouldn't have had Daddy-Raga to adapt for him. A Heian era Gojo would just be a stronger Gojo. I *personally* would've liked a more in-depth look into how Heian era Gojo would be different from modern Gojo, not just in terms of abilities and ego, but character as-well. Imagine if Gojo followed the same path as Sukuna and made a binding vow with Kenjaku. (Essentially just a whole What-If story) Even then, this is a great video. Keep up the good work. Also, it pains me every time you say "Open domain barrier" instead of open barrier domain.
I think it would be a cool vid to deep dive in CTs and theory craft their highest limits if we haven't seen them. Like if Sukuna only had Mei Mei's Crow ability, could he still be the King of Curses? Personally, I think the upper limits of Blood Manipulation is immortality and that was Tengen's technique.
9:36 Gojo when amplifying his hollow purple, he also did a dance, which isn’t possible for Sukuna to do as if he did that, he would just get destroyed while doing that, so realistically, Sukuna would only have like a 50-60% amp on his domain(or anything really), which is still bad for Gojo, but I just had to put this out just in case an argument that Gojo would in this scenario.
one thing you're missing sukuna has the ability to use his domain after it was burned out by RCT by using a different part of his brain, meaning heian era sukuna wouldve used a domain after gojos had burned out
Imagine gojo with binding vows like sukuna, "200% purple(without having urahime and gakuganji having to perform rituals), strengthening the info output of unlimited void to kill people under 5 minutes etc.)
The heian basketweaver would have to realize that growing an extra pair of arms wouldn't help against Gojo since he didn't have Daddy Mahoraga to help.
If gojo used a binding vow in the second domain clash when Sukuna used his bounding vow,changes everything.if gojo used a binding vow to give up his sure hit effect of unlimited void in order to strengthen his barrier which means the domain barrier would be indestructible due to the binding vow. Which means gojo and sukuna now have to fight to determine who.wins. and with infinity gojo is most likely to win
Sukuna had a greater advantage in their fight by having knowledge of Gojo’s complete arsenal, while Gojo did not
Gojo knows your CT just by looking at you so what else did he need to know?
@@helmtk4562 great point!!!
@@helmtk4562 Gojo can tell what your CT is but he cannot exactly know how it works the way Sukuna does know how Gojo's kit works because Gojo freaking explained it to Yuji who contains Sukuna within him LOL. Sukuna's arsenal was changed greatly by his binding vows so to assume Gojo would be able to tell how those binding vows amplify Sukuna's CT is just out right wrong as if something as broken as that could be down by the six eyes then how tf did it not tell Gojo that the slash sent by Sukuna was aimed at the space he exist onto thus bypassing infinity because it is applied to him and not the "space" that he exist in.
@@KeironRodriguez-jk2rzBcz that slash was used through a binding vow, not normally.
And gojo does know how a CT works by just looking at it as he literally explained how Miguel's CT worked by looking at him.
@@KeironRodriguez-jk2rz Gojo did not tell yuji how UV works he only spoke about how domains work and sukuna work it out because he experienced it and if gojo wanted to know about MS he could have asked choso or even angel since they knew he had an open domain
If he survives to his prime as we saw him the story then he’d probably use more binding vows like Sukuna. Since I think he would be pushed to do so by the many special grade sorcerers around at that time looking for a fight. I really think if he was born and raised in the Heian Era he’d be a lot like Sukuna just without his extra arms and face.
Also he probably wouldn't be an evil cannibal
@@duckless5463 thats true
Vibra Slap Todo Feat Gojo would be the end of every1 and everything in any era
Also don’t forget due to domains not focusing on sure hits but rather an extension of the CT in the heian era, gojo would have to think more and adapt to those acts rather than a straight domain clash
@@snax7760would he? he would be like sukuna where his ct and domain are just so much more overpowered that it really wouldn’t make him adapt that much
I made the same argument a while back. If Gojo had grown up with actual competition there is no doubt in my mind that he cooks Sukuna. I mean my man had only one hard match in his 29 yrs and then he was fighting the binding vow spammer, and doing well!
My thoughts exactly
Sukuna only used one binding vow during the gojo fight tho
@@DstruggleOng At least 3.
1)For open DE
2)For win in second DE battle
3)For world-cutting slash without conditions.
So why didn’t the people of the past do that?
Because of balance in the JJK world.
Gojo was born and stronger curses emerged.
Why do u think Gojo is considered the strongest 6 eyes user in history. It’s Because of balance. With all the strong sorcerers running around it would be impossible for a 6 eyes users to be that strong.
Acting like using binding vows is cheating when everyone can use it. Not his fault he understands how to use it better than the rest
Imagine gojo was in constant competetion during his life
Bruh thats scary
i mean even the biggest competition would've been yorozu and she got wiped by 15f meguna easily.
gojo no diffed everyone until sukuna came. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A WAY TO DESTROY THE FINGERS
@@Pbcvl albeit because of infinity but he's still strong
@@lekacious339 Gojo without infinity steal beats everyone
in the words of Gojo "the only reason you were the Strongest was simply because I wasn't born yet."
That didn’t age well lol
@@slyx4104"MAHORAGA HELP"
@@slyx4104 it did age well, because sukuna without mahoraga would've not won against gojo.
@@ssjhasuun4177 and gege confirmed that too .
@@marufhasan417 where was that confirmed? post a source.
The only thing Gojo was lacking in comparison to Sukuna was his mentality. He was burdened by his title as the strongest while Sukuna relished in it. Like if you get rid of Gojo’s weight off his shoulders and make him relish in his power then he’d just be as a big a threat as Sukuna. Could potentially beat him depending on if Gojo uses more binding vows, the applications of his domain and any other abilities he could acquire through awakening a similar mentality as Sukuna.
If there would be any scenario where Gojo adopts that mindset it would be the Heian era... literally everyone sorcerer was deranged except Angel XD
@@Allons-Y-04Can you refresh that?
@Allons-Y-04 You can't call Angel sane, I mean she literally said that she would only free Gojo if the others help her beat The Falllen, who was Sukuna, even though freeing Gojo as soon as possible would have ended the ruling games.
@@godzillagaming5797 Culling games.
Gojo could’ve been Sukuna is Geto didn’t stop him.
''Ah yes, my purple technique i haven't used since the heian era''
tuna.
@@pierrearaujo7416 TUNA.
Kelp
salmon roe
Him and sukuna would either be bullying each other or best freinds
Fr
For Real Real
That would actually be kind of funny if they just met up every now and then and fought each other because they can and it’s fun
@@the_dogeboi243depending on the situation that’s very likely 😅
Imagine if Gojos domain didnt have a barrier, like sukuna domains, everything in 100 mile radius just gets hit with infinite void, imagine your just walking normally then you get 187 trillion informations in your mind.
Infinite information doesn't have n.os where are you getting those n.os 🤣
This is literally the reason each time is see the statement that Sukuna and Gojo isnt close i laugh. Do you want to know how really close they are? They are so close that if you give Gojo an open domain, he straight up wins. Doesnt matter what sukuna does, doenst even matter that he has TS and mahoraga adapted to the sure hit. He just loses
But gojo wouldnt do that, in shibuya one of the reasons he got sealed was because he couldnt use his domain to its full power because of the civillians (normal humans around) to kill jogo mahito and Hanami choso
@@Gantaipaoinfinity is basically limitless and six eyes. It floods the user with every little and molecular detail withing a certian radius
@@Gantaipao Tuna?
The only reason Sukuna lived past the 6-part domain clash is that he popped Mahoraga just in time. He would have dead *lost* if Mahoraga hadn't been there. He also would have lost to the Purple Nuke if Mahoraga hadn't adapted to Limitless as much as it did. Fun.
Two wrong statements here. Sukuna didn't luckily summon Mahoraga, Mahoraga was already summoned and simply appeared when Sukuna was incapacitated. That is how Sukuna used the wheel even without Mahoraga present- technically, the shikigami was still hiding in his shadow.
Second, this is outright stated to be untrue. How only was Mahoraga killed, we don't even know if Mahoraga's adaptations can transfer directly to the host. The adaptations could've even reverted once Maho died. Furthermore, was nd most damningly, it was STATED by GOJO that SUKUNA did not adapt to Limitless, only Mahoraga did.
@@prez.cookie980 The whole point is that Heian Sukuna would not have Mahoraga to save his life OR to help him develop the world-cutting slash, hence hewould have dead lost if Mahoraga wasn't there. It doesn't make a difference if Mahoraga was auto-summoned with a binding vow, or if it was summoned the whole time and hid in the shadows, or if it came on its own to protect its owner from death after having been tamed for the first time in history. And getting stuck on that part of the sentence while ignoring the main point, is something you shouldn't do
something else to keep in mind is that Gojo's domain is more deadly than Sukuna's. You can RCT from slashes if they don't turn you into minecraft blocks instantly, and if your RCT is strong enough, even if only for a few seconds, giving you a chance to at least try something. However, you can't RCT from being fully stunned within UV. If Sukuna has 0 knowledge about Gojo's domain, given how common domains were in the Heian Era, there's a very real possibility that Sukuna would want to see what Gojo's domain can do, not expecting it to be so busted, and straight up die because of it. Even if he takes it seriously, if his domain doesn't one shot Gojo, and their fight follows the same progression of Gojo losing 2 domain clashes, then having 2 draws, then having 1 win, Gojo's one out of five domain battle wins kills Sukuna on the spot. Sukuna needs to win multiple domain battles to kill Gojo, wearing his RCT down until Gojo can either no longer heal himself, or no longer open his domain, but all Gojo needs is 1 second and Sukuna is stunned with no Mahoraga to save him
Honestly Gojo could just spam his second domain tactic, making his exterior barrier resistant to slashes, meaning Sukuna would have to touch him for the binding vow to strengthen MS. Then all Gojo has to do, knowing that Sukuna will try to touch him, is keep that in mind and not let Sukuna touch him. If he knows it's coming it's easier to avoid, and again all Gojo has to do is succeed once out of 5 domain battles
@@AstroCS2 you critically misunderstood this conversation (talking about how a domain clash would go if Gojo had an open domain) and how the Sukuna vs Gojo fight actually went. Sukuna did NOT have a binding vow that strengthened his slashes if he made contact with Gojo. He had a binding vow that strengthened his slashes OUTSIDE Gojo's barrier in exchange for removing his slashes from INSIDE the barrier. The result is that Gojo's surehit is no longer cancelled, so Sukuna needs to find a way around Infinite Void. Domain Amplification works, but he can't adapt while using it, so it would work on the short term but lose for his adaptation plan. He remembered that Yuji wasn't targeted when Gojo fought Jogo, and figured anyone in contact with Gojo is excluded from the surehit effect. So, he made sure to stay in contact with Gojo to adapt to his domain whilst avoiding the damage
@@prez.cookie980 That is what I said though, I never said Sukuna had a binding vow to make his slashes on Gojo stronger, i said he had to touch Gojo and disable his own sure hit in order to use a binding vow to buff his slashes on the outside of Gojo's barrier (domain barrier) which is what broke Unlimited Void's barrier and hence the domain
Also Sukuna touching Gojo means he is not hit by the Unlimited Void sure hit, so that does not make him adapt. The adaptation comes from him disabling MS sure hit on Megumi's soul, and having Megumi's soul be constantly hit by Unlimited Void, with Mahoraga's wheel on Megumi. Something that Heina Era Sukuna would have no access to
@@prez.cookie980mahoraga was set to auto summon upon adapting to unlimited void, and later, infinity
If Gojo was from the Heian Era, he would’ve folded Sukuna.
Nope
@@JD-pg4trlol how not? When he was folding him 😂😂
@@JD-pg4trsukuna without 10 shadows dont stand a chance
@@maxxopain5909 not true
Cap read 236 and take your nap lil bro
2 things that you probably should've taken into account are
1: he wouldn't have had a quidebook to the Limitless, nor would he have had as good of an understanding of it due to the lack of modern science.
2. Simple domain (and possibly falling blossom emotion) didnt exist back in the Heian Era. As far as we know, Hollow Wicker Basket was the only anti-domain technique that was known back then.
While yes that's true we've seen gojo be an innovator of his own technique on many occasions. I think removing the confines of what the limitless can do from his mind would open up more use cases for it because gojo would be forced to innovate even further on it.
How did modern science help Gojo improve his abilities?
In the Heian era he might not have known that poisons can be fended off by repelling the molecules making them up but he couldn't do that in the present either.
@@xCorvus7x Back in the heian Era, math and science probably weren't as standard and common practice. Gojo not only had crazy resources as to being born into a modern Gojo clan, but he was also given a full education including science and cursed energy. And let's not forget how he received formal training. New scientific discoveries are being found constantly. The understanding of space and physics would be nowhere near how it is now 1000+ years ago.
@@lekacious339 I know that scientific understanding of the world and mathematical exploration of abstract logic were not as far in the Heian era as they are today but the question is what the advancements in those fields did for Gojo.
For instance, the mathematical understanding of infinity certainly deepened since the Heian era but given that the Limitless technique existed back then and there were people who could use it just as Gojo does, the people of the Heian era (or at least the members of the Gojo clan) must have had some grasp on it, so what did this mathematical progress really contribute to Gojo's abilities?
@@xCorvus7x Heres the thing though. As far as I know, there is no confirmation that people in the heian era could use Limitless the same way Gojo does. It's already confirmed that Gojo is the strongest user in history. We specifically see that Gojo uses his knowledge of molecules and other scientific principles to advance his infinity specifically. In the heian era, not only would this probably not even be known, but if it was, it wouldn't be widespread.
"The only reason you were the strongest...
Was because I wasn't born yet"
🔥🔥✍️
*gets %50 percent discount*
I hope they add that line in the anime as his clapback to Sukuna
Proceeds to become half the man he used to be
who let this guy cook, dont cook again
@@kithicide this was in the actual manga
*If Sukuna was nervous the World Slash, Ten Shadows and His Heian Form wouldn't be enough for Gojo safe to say if Gojo got sent back to the Heian Era he pretty much low diffs Sukuna*
Gojotards are funny 😂
If gojo went for the head he would've won
@@niemand9914 ESPECIALLY when he hit the Black Flash
i mean gojo was that strong. i'd be nervous too. although i still see the fight being high diff but that's imo
@@Icyhot_majin yup me personally if I was Sukuna I would've done much worse, I can see why you can think it's a high diff but to me I think the difference in Stats and abilities would be enough to be a low diff in Gojo's favour
Imagine walking into a random area with a guy standing still like he's seeing god, then u get too close and you just gain info it's knowledge
Tuna??
Tuna
Seeing god jus like bro
Yellowfin tuna
@@randomguy9871 Mustard leaf,Mayo
Simple domain didn't exist, Gojo would have to use Hollow wicker basket
Yup. In ancient times
Simple domain was created in the height of the heian era.
@@SupremeWaffle2021 yeah and it was gatekept by the inventor and his students
SALMON COD ROE-
I wanna say that everyone that keeps saying that "Gojo said he wasn't giving it his all" misunderstood it after this last chapter. After it said sakuna had to binding vow away the flames fighting gojo, you should be able to correlate it with gojo saying that. Remember gojo can see what you can do with your technique from his eyes, same way he looked at clone technique dude and others.
Reason he couldn’t use the flames was it said he kept changing the range of his domain so that fucked up his vows for flames. In theory if he just maxed the range for malevolent shrine he could use the flames
so it wasn't that he decided not to go all out but he COULDN'T go all out. Got you.
@@IsThatAThaiNameHe couldn't use it because he had to keep changing conditions, not range. He can only add so many conditions to his domain. His fire arrow requires two by default to be effective, but more importantly, it wouldn't really change anything. The fire arrow is overrated. If Choso could make Yuji walk out almost unscathed despite being much weaker, it isn't really doing much.
@@randomdude6446 choso likely used a binding vow to sacrifice his own life, and range is the condition the manga specified at least in the translation I saw
@@IsThatAThaiName The translations consistently emphasize conditions and range as for the whole binding vow thing gege would have stated so if that was the case
Thats also assuming that the current gojo has reached his full potential. I personally think gojo in hein era would be forced to push past his limits
He would be a monster
lime green
new gojo color
orange yellow
@@vixinitydbz💀💀💀
If Gojo had a barrierless domain it was over for
Sukuna the only reason he can beat Gojo is through
Domain expansion
Kelp!😀😀
Barrier less unlimited void is a nightmare 💀
This is still untrue. Even if UV was barrierless, Sukuna is superior in domain techniques overall, with better barrier proficiency and better domain amplification (if Gojo even HAS domain amplification). Sukuna's surehit is also FAR superior in terms of destroying other domains, which is what allowed him to win the clash. Yes, being barrierless helped significantly. But he would've won those clashes in the end anyways, since he has the ability to attack barriers with his surehit and Gojo doesn't.
@@prez.cookie980 UV and Malovelant shire already are equal in refinement if it becomes barrierless then by will be equal
completely than it comes to hand to hand combat and we all know how it is gonna go
@@Anixd094 Sukuna didn't get dominated in h2h up until he disabled his surehit inside, which buffed Gojo because domains buff stats. Yes, their domains would cancel if their range was identical, but this isn't exactly exclusively beneficial to Gojo. It would just mean Sukuna would need a separate solution to collapsing the barrier, and they would probably both compress their ranges to increase surehit potency.
Gojo was bending Sukuna over before Mahoraga joined the fight; the fact of the matter is that Sukuna used the Megumi Special, and if he hadn't, he would have been folded and put in Gojo's sock drawer.
It feels like people forget that and meatrides his statement "I don't think I would've won if he wasn't using the ten shadows". He literally knocked him unconscious and had him in his infinite void. Hell he literally almost had the win if it wasn't for him having a yap session at the very end
@@Varxiiiwe havnt forgotten it, its just irrelevant since those things wouldnt have happened if Sukuna wasnt rocking mahoraga. Its you guys that keep forgetting that there are drawbacks to using mahoragas adaptation such as not being able to use anything else but the ten shadows technique, not being able to use domain amplification, having to play an entirely defensive game where taking non lethal hits speeds up the process.
Yall like to compare the fight as if Sukuna would do the same stuff when not having mahoraga. Its just illogical.
@PandoloFox yeah but I think they would domain clash the same way because if gojo domains first either sukuna does or he dies. And we see very clearly that gojo definitively wins in a domain clash scenario. And getting caught in gojos domain is death. End of story.
@@charadreemurr7177 It wouldnt, its already been stated by gojo in the domain clashes that Sukuna was attempting risky shit to prolong the domain clashes. In a fight without mahoraga Sukuna would not do this.
@@charadreemurr7177 sukuna lost 0.01 second, but what if sukuna use his form, that has 2 mouth and 4 arm. Gojo not even have a chance to beat sukuna domain in domain clash
Sakuna had to literally develop a move against gojo with the help of 2 other Shinigami to figure a way to get past his infinity reliably... Without them, sakuna is simply wiped. It literally shows that when both of them are gassed. Yet gojo hits a black flash, seems amped but then gets one shot due to a new move that sukuna just so happen to get when he was about to fall. If sakuna had not seen the move, he would have never came up with anything, maybe a binding vow... which is plot armor
Yep
So Black Flash, the literal luck-based ability, which Gojo landed like 4 of, isn't plot armor? If Sukuna landed 4 black flashes against Gojo, he would've died VERY briefly after.
@@prez.cookie980 Black flash gojo having had the record for.... lands another 4 as he (Has already done in the past)... binding vow, i give something up i receive something. it has merit, when used effectively. Nanami for instance. Sakuna since he has *knowledge can use binding vows to switch up domains... Has the ability to copy after seeing anything related to curse energy... luck-based- No. Its stated once a character hits the (zone) anyone can achieve a black flash.... As fights go on you may find yourself more in the zone.. pretty simple... There is a prerequisite to a black flash You have to Gain Something to get that something.... being in the zone. binding vows have NO prerequisite lol.
so Black Flash, the literal luck-based ability, which Gojo landed like 4 of, isn't plot armor? short answer- No Black flash can be achieved by being in the zone, not everyone can get to that point. binding vow anyone can do on the spot... binding vow=faith... black flash=beating mfs
@@DieHard1912this all means nothing and almost none of it is true. There is 1 sorcerer who can use black flash at will, and even then it’s only speculated. He got lucky
9:24 Hand signs and chants do not affect a domain's output
it was never done nor is there any reason to believe that is the case. In fact there is evidence suggesting otherwise.
they do, since the they affect ANY CT's output. That's why Yuta wasnt slice in half when he was hit with the World Cutting slash, since sukuna had to amend his incantations etc. ..
@@usedtobejosh_dinkshotst_t575?? I don't know if some of you do read The manga with close eyes?
World Slash literally cut Yuta in Half brother...
@@Gantaipao uhm u and i both know yuta sliced in half was just confirmed in chapter 261 so i dint know when i was commenting. but yes, you are correct he got cut in half
@@usedtobejosh_dinkshotst_t575 You don't seem to understand how domains work. Domains are kinda like turrets. You give them power and they act independently of you. That's why Sukuna can use DA while using domains. However, that also means chants and signs can't buff domains.
@@Gantaipaoyuta is alive😂
People are forgetting that sukuna is a literal veteran , he fought countless extremely strong sorcerers and even literal armies coming at him
While gojo, as talented and strong as he is,
He is just a spoiled, golden spoon brat who never had to try hard in a fight except once, and never had the chance to even sweat after he awakened,
he actually has zero real battle experience with his awakened powers, he didnt even had the chance to fight someone like ryo and uro, let alone someone like kashimo, the closest he had, is his students, but never a real battle to death,
hell, he never even met anyone who knew domain amplification and was actually able to touch him before jogo and hanami (he didnt know what it was, he figured it out during the fight.)
he even said it himself, he never had fight long enough to hit more than one black flash, and even jogo, who was probably the strongest curse he ever encountered, wasn't even interesting for him to take somewhat seriously
honestly, he probably didnt even know how strong was his full power purple until he used it against sukuna
hell
If he had grown up in the heian era he would have been a battle hardened experienced warrior like sukuna and not an extremely strong but overly confident newby
He would have been a completely different level of menace , a natural calamity, probably many times worse than sukuna,
with his raw talent, genius intellect, a life long experience in battle and his almost invincible CT, he would have become a literal god amongst men.
yeah he would whoop sukunas ass
If I’m right about this since I’m still new to JJK, but Gojo abilities is literally quantum metaphysics right?
@@Yakobi24 well in a sense i guess, but its actually way more simple,
his power is to manifest math into reality
for example,
his blue-
he manifest an infinite series of negative numbers into reality in a certain area,
but the problem is, negative numbers don't really exist, so it creates some kind of a reality glitch, a hole in the fabric of reality,
so reality itself tries to correct the error, by filling said "hole" with the space and matter around it, problem is, is that the negative numbers are infinite, so no amount of matter will fill this "hole" ,and so effectively this blue area becomes a black hole of sorts that sucks in and destroys everything around it.
red- is the opposite of that, positive numbers that push space away from it,
infinity- Gojo is creating an infinite space around him, an infinite series gradually decreasing numbers, so nothing can actually close the distance( the technical explanation, is the "Achilles and the tortoise paradox" which in this context is explained as- the closer something gets to Gojo, the slower it becomes, so nothing ever reaches him.
@@Yakobi24 basially he is a walking asymptote
@@Yakobi24 I understand his techniques to have less to do with quantum mechanics than with pure mathematics, in particular infinite series.
Gege and Gojo bring up Zeno's „paradoxes“ to explain Limitless. One of those is about the movement of an arrow over a given distance: at first the arrow travels half the distance, then half of the remaining distance, then half of what remains after that, then half of what remains after that, so the arrow has to make an infinite number of steps to cover the whole distance. Zeno (an Ancient Greek philosopher) asked, how then it could be possible for the arrow (or anything) to move at all, since making an infinite number of steps in a finite time span is clearly impossible.
In reality, this is not an issue because each further step is not just half as long as the one before it, it also takes half as much time, so the infinitely small steps take an infinitesimal fraction of a second to travel (in other words, the infinite subdivisions of a finite length also mean to subdivide the travel time infinitely and are functionally meaningless).
In mathematics, you sort this out using limits: the limit of the infinite series where with each step you add up the powers of 1/2, 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 ... , is 2; that series converges to 2.
Now, the Limitless sounds as if it forced you to not use limits (hence the name) but add up all the infinite partial distances manually, one by one, so that each further step actually takes the same amount of time as the previous one.
This is how Zeno's supposed paradoxes assume the world works and then it would actually take an infinite amount of time to cover a finite distance: with each further step you are slowing down.
Then the different outputs are about different behaviours of infinite series:
Blue means the series converges; Gojo decides to what exactly it converges and things affected by his technique are drawn to that point (since each action has an equal and opposite reaction, this can also be used to move himself around or accelerate his fists).
Red means the series diverges: you don't actually get closer to him or any other point in space but get increasingly far away from any given point; the result is repulsion.
Purple means to apply both at the same time an at the same point in space which tears apart everything in its path and maybe actually breaks reality.
There is no calculus in the Heian era, therefore Gojo must invent a new branch of maths to use these techniques.
Bro becomes Einstein before Einstein
@@echidnanatsuki882lol
@@echidnanatsuki882 Wouldn't be surprised if Gojo was also a world-renowned mathematician
@kerbodynamicx472 I'm pretty sure there were limitless users in the Heian era
Actually, Gojo's abilities are based on paradoxes that have only been solved by contemporary mathematics, such as that of the Achilles tortoise.
If Gojo was born in the heian era i believe he'd be stronger due to the difference in total MONSTEROUS sorcerers there, the curve would lowkey send Gojo high in development.
to quote another commenter
"People are forgetting that sukuna is a literal veteran , he fought countless extremely strong sorcerers and even literal armies coming at him
While gojo, as talented and strong as he is,
He is just a spoiled, golden spoon brat who never had to try hard in a fight except once, and never had the chance to even sweat after he awakened,
he actually has zero real battle experience with his awakened powers, he didnt even had the chance to fight someone like ryo and uro, let alone someone like kashimo, the closest he had, is his students, but never a real battle to death,
hell, he never even met anyone who knew domain amplification and was actually able to touch him before jogo and hanami (he didnt know what it was, he figured it out during the fight.)
he even said it himself, he never had fight long enough to hit more than one black flash, and even jogo, who was probably the strongest curse he ever encountered, wasn't even interesting for him to take somewhat seriously
honestly, he probably didnt even know how strong was his full power purple until he used it against sukuna
hell
If he had grown up in the heian era he would have been a battle hardened experienced warrior like sukuna and not an extremely strong but overly confident newby
He would have been a completely different level of menace , a natural calamity, probably many times worse than sukuna,
with his raw talent, genius intellect, a life long experience in battle and his almost invincible CT, he would have become a literal god amongst men."
Times were tough in the heian era and so were the villians. What I'm trying to say that gojo would load up on both knowledge and skill set as one of sukuna's main advantages over gojo was experience and knowedge giving him access to smart binding vows. Give gojo knowledge and domain buff and sukuna would've been cooked good.
@@zzxylo yup
its pretty likely that sukuna learned to heal cursed technique burnout from gojo and its also pretty likely gojo sweeps in all categories due to the fact sukuna is probably a finger or two (possibly more) weaker as they got stronger in the thousand years of roaming (2-4x weaker if we say sukunas fingers are exponential, 5-10% if its just 5% per finger)
I personally feel it has to be exponential due to how much 15 Finger Sukuna dog-walked Jogo when Jogo is around 8 fingers but the power gap seemed much greater than just 2x
@@Jordan-ud4qv yea thats what i think too but it lacks the evidence so ill js go with what everyone else thinks
When they said sukuna's finger were growing stronger, they meant the presence of the fingers bc the seals were weakened, not that he literally got stronger
The honoured one vs the gooey one, the binding one, the vowed one, the plot-armored one, the fraudulent one, the crying one, the begging one, the slime asmr one
Gojo was a Massive shark in a pond while Sukuna was the same Massive shark but in an ocean, one never faced a threat after awakening his every power for over a decade a third of his life while the other was always finding opponents that pushed him to become the monstrous calamity that he became.
So now put one with no real life or death battles after awakening into a few decades of further development with the Heian era Jujutsu and tens if not hundreds of oppoents that will push you, and you get a calamity that would make sukuna look like a candle light in comparission.
It's sukuna who was lucky that someone of Gojo's abillities and talent wasn't born into Golden era of Jujutsu because then that equal opponent that would kill you if he had some knowledge of how Shrine works and you didn't have Mahomommy to give the one sure hit through infinity as a blueprint would become a mountain compared to what he was in the era called by sukuna as the weakest.
If Satoru Gojo was born in Heian Era then Sukuna would've have never been considered as "The Strongest Sroceror In History"
WE NEED MORE WHAT IF'S. for example. What if Yuji had mahoraga's wheel OR what if Sukuna had another cursed technique. (please type your what ifs in the replies)
I might make a 'what if Yuta copied x CT' part 2... or maybe a what if Geto didn't go bad?
@@Allons-Y-04 or what if sukuna took over megumi in the start instead
What if Sukuna was stuck at 1 finger.
What if sukuna got projection sorcery or blood manipulation instead?
@@greezchum76 blood manipulation sukuna would go hard ngl
My headcanon is that at some point a soul emerged that had the first six eyes within the Gojo clan, and that it's this same soul that keeps being reincarnated again and again and it's actually the ONLY soul that can possess the six eyes, so more like a soul specific ability.
The main reason Gojo lost was due to his lack of creativity with the limitless cursed technique. Sorcerers are known and shown to grow after a tough battle. So much so that Gojo unlocked the imaginary technique purple in the same day after unlocking reverse curse technique. I truly believe if more people could push Gojo the way toji did he would've been a lot stronger.
He could’ve learned green, and yellow
infinite void open domain is to op it just increases the range and ruins the drawback of open domains that you can leave
Also Sukuna has no world slash, since he learned that through the ten shadows technique during his fight with gojo, so he can't just one tap gojo
domain
@@Pbcvl His domain still can't one tap gojo as we've seen from their fight tho, Gojo was able to break Sukuna's domain multiple times
@@mrkimpa6273 what it was sukuna who was breaking gojo's domain mutiple times
@@sugan0052 gojo also broke sukuna's domain 3 times by dealing enough damage to him and even readjusted his domain's barriers with binding vows and had a domain stalemate with sukuna for 3 minutes, so it won't be that easy for Sukuna to kill Gojo with his domain
@@mrkimpa6273 plot armor for gojo thats all
Gojo would probably be relative to the Chinese sorcerer that was not seen but said to be feared by Sukuna.
What sorcerer? And where was that stated? Idk about something this crucial?
@@Muffin11262bro the Chinese sorcerer is a common joke 💀
@@plab1151 oh
doesn’t exist sukuna wasn’t defeated he was sealed
@@April2ndz sukuna was never sealed, he split his soul on his own accord
"In return for not being able to laugh until next year, I can instantly fire hollow purple"
"Brat, that's not fair is i-"
the end
0:50 Holy guac.... Imma need your plug, where did you find this, of course it's for a friend.
Lmao I just looked up 'female mahoraga' on google images.. try it there is definitely some interesting stuff there haha
Both Heian Gojo and Sukuna would be high difference. Probably a game of who hits the most backflashes
If you are making a video on gojo being born in the heian era also make sure to tweak their abilities acoording to the era as well.As we already know by now that a sorcerers abilities work differently according to the era and their surroundings.So most likely the gojo we see today with infinity would not be the same gojo in heian era because of difference in knowledge and era.
Well I’m no physicist so I can’t rly help with that one 😂
Infinity, though, would be the same. Cursed techniques don’t change depending on science or technology of the era. Though, how much Gojo understands it would be WAYY different.
@@sanjubogatiit probably would be full of paradoxes and call it a day
@@Allons-Y-04 u liar, u said u would respond exculsively in rice bowl ingrediets
I've theorized for awhile now that the heads of the three clans, three vengeful spirits, never incarnated as a curse in the usual way but rather into the families techniques. Whether they were the same technique as our modern interpretations or not is up for debate.
Sukuna didn't use furnace on Gojo cause there'd be no point. He can't. He's incapable of using it on gojo, cause dismantle and cleave would never reach him so fire arrow can't be charged. And if it could it wouldnt reach him anyway. He couldnt use it in a domain clash cause of the hcnaged conditions to his barrier, but even when he broke gojo's domain he didnt take the safe route and max his domain range and fire arrow he took the riskier play of trying to get rid of infinity. And it was the right choice cause gojo regrew his brain and CT and continued the fight faster than sukuna expected. Had sukuna tried to take the safe route he'd have lost.
Dismantle and cleave can reach Gojo anyway since its domain sure hit effect, that bypass limitless. Second, Gojo gets CT burn out so there is no limitless in the first place.
@@danilka523 Yeah, but Gojo can run out if Sukuna stops moving to charge fuga. Remember, Gojo would've gotten out immediately if Sukuna didn't stop him in 226.
i also think he wouldve been able to predict sukuna using binding vows to bypass limits. We saw sukuna use binding vows but gojo didnt, so i think if gojo lived in heian era, he could have predicted something like the world cutting slash
I’m pretty sure sukuna learned how to restore burnt rct from gojo
Yes Gojo do it infront of him and he learn it was watching
only one time
no he didn’t he already knew how it worked and the consequences and limitations before even doing it. He doesn’t have any ability to see how gojo did it
@@demarcusjones3219huh? The cast watching the fight I believe kusakabe and kashimo literally said gojo shouldn’t have shown sukuna that because he’ll learn it instantly which happened… wtf are you talking about
Sukuna understood what happens because his deep understanding of jujutsu and how it works. He knew it was stored in the brain. Doesn’t mean he knew he could rct his burnt out cursed technique. You need to go back and read because you’re clearly lackin on the subject.
@@kahlibbustos8523 no what they meant is if he didn’t already know it before he’d definitely know it now.+ logically you teach someone else about something you don’t alr know. he knew exactly the consequences, how to do it (zero practice) the limits of it and exactly how many times a person can do it before causing too much brain damage. all of which even gojo didn’t know
Great Video. But some things that I believe are just crazy. Yes Sukuna does not know that if he touch gojo he won’t be effected. But we do know sukuna can use Domain amp which is a barrier technique that’s had been stated similar to SD and SD is similar to Hollow wicker basket. Therefore, he could still turn off his sure hit for the huge increase in damage but use HWB same time to not get hit and it won’t break cause of his extra hands. Additionally, we have seen to change the conditions of his domains constantly what to say he can’t close his domain with a barrier and spell the barrier by giving the escape route binding vow. therefore just getting it back to the original clashing, which Gojo will lose without prisonrealm knowledge. And lastly the most crazy take is that his tools wouldn’t work. Once Domain amp breaks infinity which has been shown to be bubble like he can attack with his tools. This is further proven by when magi broke infinity and sukuan kicked gojo in the face. Thus he can simultaneously use kamotuke and hiten ability’s if he wanted to.
Domain amp allows you to bypass infinity by making physical contact, but anything that isn't wrapped in it won't bypass
Mahoraga would temporarily DISABLE infinity every time he hit gojo
@@wtfhahahaha miss informed a little ill help u out. During the Gojo vs sukuna fight both in I think chapter 224 and 228 shows that once domain amp hits and is broken through other things can hit gojo again like a bubble. 224 sukuna was about to break through infinity just as he cut the building behind gojo. So the building would hit gojo. This is latter proven in 228 when gojo says now sukuna can't use any architectural structure like he did before inside the domain. And last but not least chapter 84 page 13 in context talking about domain amp “It will always neutralize the technique”. Have good day🤝.
What if every sixeyes user is the reincarnation
of the previous one🤔
Its not impossible ig
it's unlikely because of tengens explanation of kenjaku and the merger, tengen says that kenjaku has killed six eyes users both as adults and children but a new one manifested to stop him, this wouldn't be worth noting if kenjaku killed a six eyes and waited 15 years and be surprised about one appearing, making it more likely that an already existing sorcerer manifested or inherited the six eyes and intervened with kenjakus plan
@@joeyguss4931 I know dude i was just yapping
@@joeyguss4931No he was defeated by 2 adult six eyes users and killed one at birth
bro your content remains so well made, all of what you say makes sense, is easy to comprehend and follows a point, i love it
uh did we forget hat sukuna was getting stronger his fingers grew stronger every day meaning that his overall power was higher then the heian era
gojo kid spotted
And now this has been proven wrong. Uraume outright states that the reincarnated Sukuna is nothing compared to the OG Sukuna
@@somersaultinggiraffe1901that's just Uraume glazing lol
@@somersaultinggiraffe1901sukunas fingers have collected cursed energy from special grade curses, Sukuna now would have more CE than Sukuna in the Heian Era lmao copium
Gojo legit was growing during his fight against Sukuna, doing things he himself didn't know was possible. If he had time to fully explore the depths of what Limitless can offer because there are opponents that he can challenge himself with, then its safe to say that Gojo would learn not only Open Domain, but also better applications of limitless, blue, red, and purple.
Like bro probably did test out his abilities at first by limiting himself against others, otherwise there's no way someone survived 4 consecutive black-flashes from gojo. Once gojo was so far above he likely stopped testing things. Not to mention he needed to teach students.
If gojo had an actual reason to keep testing things, like for example in preparation for a fight against Sukuna, he'd be much more incentivized to test things
I will see you at the major.
Ay lets gooo
A gojo with an open barrier domain just straight up wins the battle against any form of sukuna it’s actually insane how close they are
The one problem i see with scenario one is Hein Era Sukuna's physicality. We have to remember that Sukuna was in Megumi's body when he was fighting against Gojo which is nowhere near as physically strong as the Heian era Sukuna that is currently fighting everyone. A lot of the hand to hand exchanges between Sukuna and Gojo honestly would not go Gojo's way if they were to happen simply because Sukuna has much higher durability, speed, strength, and the extra arms.
This is the same Sukuna who bodied Kashimo in his mythical beast amber state, dodged his electro magnetic waves (which if you don't know move close to or at the speed of light), and killed him in less than two chapters. Literally a chapter prior to this, Sukuna was getting blitzed by Kashimo's lightning but when he transformed he is able to avoid full on EM waves. This is the same Sukuna who survived being stabbed in the heart with a soul splitting blade, survived getting hit with a domain expansion amplified Jacobs ladder, survived 9 soul targeting black flashes from an Itadori that is said to be surpassing Gojo, and beat up Maki who he himself compared to mahoraga all within the same day. His durability and endurance is just way too strong for Gojo to just bully him like he was doing while he was in Megumi's body.
Physically speaking, if Sukuna and Gojo were to have a hand to hand fight, it wouldn't go too well for Gojo. You can re-analyze the fight between the two of them and even see that a lot of the hits Gojo landed, he simply wouldn't have if Sukuna had extra arms, especially during their second domain clash. Try to disregard the extra arms all you want but those things do matter, especially with how Sukuna uses them on top of his insane physical buff he gets from being in his Heian era body. Those things can cover blind spots and openings or set up for absolutely brutal combinations like what happened when he "fought" Kashimo.
This doesn't exactly mean Sukuna would just bully Gojo either, there are definitely some things he could pull off with blue and red to get out of some of the combos Sukuna might try to put him in. But there doesn't really seem to be a real way for him to actually deal damage to Sukuna with just hands. Unless he hits a good 3-4 black flashes (and even then he still might not do much damage, especially after Sukuna ate 9 from Itadori who is at the point of surpassing gojo as said be the editor's comment.) he's not going to be able to do anything.
At the same time while Gojo could be levels stronger, so can Sukuna. If you can recall, Sukuna has repeatedly stated that he is not at 100% even in his Heian era form in the current chapters of the manga due to the brain damage he is still suffering from UV. So in this hypothetical he should also be stronger if they are fighting in the Heian era since Sukuna wouldn't be suffering from that brain damage.
An open barrier UV just sounds like the most broken thing in existence and the only way i can see this being a low diff in Gojo's favor is if he manages to pull his out before Sukuna manages to get his domain off. At that point it is completely GG for Sukuna, he's done since he can't switch out to Megumi to keep his brain from being completely fried.
Good video though, the first scenario was the only one i slightly disagreed with.
I mean I get u but Sukuna’s crazy strength and arms means nothing when Gojo can’t be touched, has hard hitting blue punches and is much faster… if Sukuna can’t beat the domain Gojo does genuinely no diff imo
Sukuna can't box Gojo because he can't hit Gojo. If Gojo didn't have infinity then I would agree but the amount of arms you have doesn't matter if you can't ever hit your opponent
@@Allons-Y-04 Well that's the point of Domain amp, Sukuna can use Domain amp while he's in a domain clash so him not being able to touch gojo doesn't matter when he can... touch Gojo. Also gojo is just not faster than Heian Sukuna, he has displayed nothing that puts him on that level in the series. We can't just say he is, we need evidence of this.
Even Heian Sukuna did the whole "moves so fast he looks like he's teleporting" thing against Maki so that definitely isn't a factor.
@@astreusastresus198 Domain amp go brr
@@indrainspace2601 I man Gojo can just straight up teleport bro... like he manipulates space to compress the distance between 2 points. He is levels faster... not seen Sukuna travel across the country and back in a matter of seconds lmao.
Even if Heian Sukuna uses domain amp he can't use his CT so its just punch kick merchant and no way is that enough to beat Satoru Gojo lmao
If Gojo was in that era, things would've been so much different. First of all, sukuna sealing idea may have never occured. Since Gojo's technique is broken that even sukuna himself had to rely on mahoraga. It's going to be sukuna dead and an age of peace, cause sorcerers In that age was strong compared to today, and they even manage to seal sukuna. If Gojo was there, they would've probably tried to kill sukuna instead. Or an age of chaos, cause they failed to kill him and they all get wiped out, at this point they would've probably try to seal him, but they lacked the preparation because their original plan was to subjugate sukuna. But that's one of the only scenario, there are endless possibilities
Nobody sealed Sukuna though... He split himself into 20 fingers so he basically time travel as a cursed object
no sukuna would have killed of gojo, and yuji would have never learned anything from gojo thats how it would run
3:45 erm, we don’t know everything abt the heian era tho!!!! (I’m commenting this to hear you talk like inumaki, that’s literally the only reason)
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Heian Era Sukuna Smacks gojo all day Infact if gojo was born in the heian era it’d only be to his detriment.
I of the biggest things you got wrong is that Gojo and Sukuna are equally talented that's not the case at all I will explain it like chess Gojo has a very big unfair adv against every other Sorcerer the 6 eyes Thai gives him way too much info and other things that other sorcerers don't have yet Sukuna Whose Base is just like any other Sorcerer has Six eyes level efficiency and can copy anything by seeing it once if gojo was as talented as sukuna he would be able to replicate the open domain by seeing it once which didn't happen .even though Gojo has such unfair adv due to six eyes he still can't output RCT unlike sukuna.
Gojo is talented but nowhere near Sukuna level no sorcerer is as talented like Sukuna. If Sukuna had six eyes + limitless he would surpass gojo by a mile and that's true
Btw great vid
Talent meaning natural aptitude or skill. Gojo’s six eyes and limitless are his talents since they are natural abilities given from birth while Sukuna’s large amount of CE reserves and efficiency were things he’s had since birth. Talent isn’t a thing that can be improved or taken it’s something the user has had since birth. It’s natural for them. We don’t even know how barrierless domains are made. They could just be made by making a binding vow that let’s people escape in exchange for increasing the range while Gojo’s wouldn’t be able to that since his Domain Expansion stuns the people inside it so no matter what they can’t escape making an exchange to increase the range for getting rid of the barrier have no drawbacks like a binding vow should. The reason Sukuna > Gojo is because that 20% percent of hard work applies to the application of one’s CT/CT(s) so using binding vows to his advantage, Sukuna was able to successfully land the world cutting slash with only 1 hand to kill Gojo by learning Mahoraga’s technique to bypass Limitless. Sukuna isn’t more talented than Gojo’s, he’s more skillful in using the abilities he’s acquired in the story to beat opponents on relative strength to him. 🤓
@@THED3ADLY7if I have an extra limb that doesn't mean I have high talent. Talent means skills from birth. Six eyes are not talent, they are physicality
@@THED3ADLY7 the six eyes are literally physical cheats I don't think that's a natural talent compared to sukuna who doesn't have the six eyes
@@Muffin11262Gojo had the six eyes from birth. You literally just said the same thing I said regarding talents. He’s had them since the moment he was conceived. We saw him have them a newborn baby, a child, a teen and a fully grown adult. Talent means skills from birth and CT(s) are talents since birth. Gege had mentioned this in the 1st season where CT(s) are 80% of sorcerer’s power and the other 20% is from mastering it. The limitless and six eyes are the Gojo clan specific talents much like the 10 shadows from the Zenin clan. They are all given from birth. Also the six eyes aren’t just an extra limb though they do so much more than that, they aren’t just there to look pretty so the comparison of extra limb to six eyes makes no sense since you can’t compare them. That’s like comparing a solar panel to a Dyson sphere. Lastly Sukuna’s large amount of CE is a cheat code so don’t act like the six eyes are doing Gojo much better since they equal out in their fight.
@@THED3ADLY7 And with all that sukuna is still more talented. Being able to do things by only seeing them once and his CE efficiency is second to none even now it has only reached yuta’s level after all the fighting.
heian era gojo doesnt have simple domain since it wasnt a thing back then, gojo wouldve used hollow whisker basket which renders him unable to fight
For real
5:25 and you say "ohhh yuta was leagues ahead at understanding the fight" shut up man it was only ME
Gotta give the boy some props tho. He was able to pick up on Gojo's bloody nose and connected the dots between that and refreshing ur CT w/ RCT.
Kusakabe spent the whole fight confused bro XD
@@Allons-Y-04 called kusakabeGPT for a reason
Well given the fact Gojo isn't fighting to save Megumi he would fight much differently
The King of Curses.
The Honored One.
The Strongest Sorcerer in History.
Satoru Gojo.
*ryomen sukuna (you're welcome)
@@xebec995 fraudjo so mid his fans need to come up with own fiction videos LMAO
@@filo-ii2hnseriously how much can you cope this is literal fanfiction but i guess at the end of the day it doesnt matter because gojo is dead and sukuna won
What if fuga is an ancient application of curse energy. For example. Dismantle. Cleave webdismantle and the world cutting slashes are all the usual applications of the curse technique but what if fuga works as a sorta indirect application. Where the way your cursed technique affects the real world ends up creating a new technique for you to use and during the heien era that was common knowledge that’s why jogo wasn’t aware of it
I dont think gojo would be able to do a open domain because he doesnt lose anything by having no barrier if you get hit by uv youre braindead and cant escape so gojo would just gain extra range without any cons
Thats valid but I'm sure a different vow or changing the conditions could still make it possible. Even if Gojo has to sacrifice IV being an insta win he still slams cus infinity
@@Allons-Y-04 Fair
@@Allons-Y-04 That's a completely fair point, yeah. Gojo doesn't *need* the surehit effect of IV to beat Sukuna. He just needs Sukuna's Domain to be a nonfactor. Considering that Sukuna doesn't have Mahoraga in this hypothetical fight, if it's just straight H2H Gojo 100% stomps.
I mean, you kinda have to think about the fact that limitless was less refined 1000 years ago than it was today, so that’s a thing too
Ikr
6:45 doesn't Sukuna have the highest output he has had in the current day? Since the power of his fingers grew with every passing day.
Nah that statement kinda got dropped and it shouldn't mean he gets higher output anyway. Ryu Ishigori has the highest output in recorded history
"guess what I don't care go cry about it" the most manecing thing i heard💀
3:42 Blud said "high how level"
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team they should make a spin off this
How did y'all comment before the video started?
Bruh what?
One thing you got wrong is that Simple Domain doesnt exist yet so it would be Hollow Wisper Basket which makes it so your tech doesnt work and both you hands are unless
It was created in the Heian era but Gojo wouldn't know it so no but also yes XD
Doesn’t matter six eyes yuta slams both
I mean I don't see how its possible for anyone to disagree with that.. just pure facts XD
Nah it’s pure love 😭
I think it would come down to talent, output, RCT speed and extent
@@I_AM_NOVA. Yuta doesn't lack these. He's top 2 in terms of output, and in talent, Yuta's the best in the series.
@@Lamorak241correction top 3
Also, bit of a Gojo debuff, it’s likely Hollow Wicker Basket would replace Simple Domain and falling blossom emotion was likely not created just yet. This would change domain battles heavily
Gojo would definetly be a top tier sooner.
He's the kind of guy who becomes stronger when he faces more pressure
He'd either die from a domain before he reaches his peak or become the next sukuna, Only reason gojo is a good guy to begin with is because geto was his moral compass and someone he used to look up to. Take him out the picture and he's going to look toward the other people who have similar strength to him heian era which would be actual menaces. *cough cough sukuna*
I do not ever see anybody talking about the possibility of gojo creating new techniques for infinity, taking into account for how talented he is
@totallyanonymous3010 nope. But his DE is being Open Barrier
In terms of stats, Heian era Sakuna would've way more power compared to what we have seen as his stats is one finger higher because Heian era Sakuna has 20 fingers plus his head (equivalent to 1 finger) which is 21 fingers overall.
Sakuna's head from his corpse before he fought Gojo is used as a compensation for the missing final finger in order for Sakuna to reach 20 fingers.
This era would have a lot of disadvantages.
He doesn't know domain amplification.
He doesn't know how Gojo's ct works in detail.
Gojo is more of the type to grow a lot from greater challenges and even when the modern era couldn't offer as much as the haein era could've he stull grew to such extreme levels. So If he was truly from the haein era then he would've been on an insanely stronger level than both gojo and sukuna originally were.
Should be noted that in the sukuna low-diff scenario, gojo would not know about the simple domain technique unless he prior fought against a user and managed to copy it. HOWEVER, given the nature of his infinite void, and how fast it comes out and what it actually does (prevent anyone from doing anything because of information overload), i think most if not all simple domain users going against gojo's domain would be incapable of reacting in order to use it in the first place for him to copy. So given that he wouldn't be able to go against a user of simple domain, and he couldn't hear about it from word of mouth (given the creator of it in the heian era forbid anyone from teaching it via binding vows), i think it's very unlikely that gojo would have the ability to use it in the fight against sukuna in the heian era.
imagine Infinite Void with an open barrier, that's horrifying
Another thing is that the curse techniques of this era is watered down. They adopt what is currently going on in the era making them more complex.
The talent pool is wider in the modern day because of the evolution of the people and information is more accessible.
Whereas the past sorcerers had to rely on the strongest survives mentality. That’s why u see more “prodigies” in the modern day.
It’s the Micheal Jordan in today’s NBA conversation. He was a 1of1 then but now there’s at least 10-20 players that has the athleticism and skills of MJ minus the mindset.
Sukuna glazers wont admit that for Sukuna to win he had soo many advantages ahead of the fight, we werent given what was hyped, Heian Era Sukuna vs gojo
gojo glazers
"The one who became strong is stronger then the one who was born strong."
we have to remember that gojo has the massive upside of modern day physics and mathematics to understand his ct a lot better
I feel like him and Sukuna would agree on their ideals, though. Given Gojo's ideologies in the Hidden Inventory Arc, if he thought that when him and Sukuna were alive, at the same time. Man, think of that though.
IMO, this vid should've had less of the Gojo vs Sukuna aspect since modern day Gojo could've beaten Heian era Sukuna since he wouldn't have had Daddy-Raga to adapt for him. A Heian era Gojo would just be a stronger Gojo.
I *personally* would've liked a more in-depth look into how Heian era Gojo would be different from modern Gojo, not just in terms of abilities and ego, but character as-well. Imagine if Gojo followed the same path as Sukuna and made a binding vow with Kenjaku. (Essentially just a whole What-If story)
Even then, this is a great video. Keep up the good work.
Also, it pains me every time you say "Open domain barrier" instead of open barrier domain.
I think it would be a cool vid to deep dive in CTs and theory craft their highest limits if we haven't seen them. Like if Sukuna only had Mei Mei's Crow ability, could he still be the King of Curses? Personally, I think the upper limits of Blood Manipulation is immortality and that was Tengen's technique.
9:36 Gojo when amplifying his hollow purple, he also did a dance, which isn’t possible for Sukuna to do as if he did that, he would just get destroyed while doing that, so realistically, Sukuna would only have like a 50-60% amp on his domain(or anything really), which is still bad for Gojo, but I just had to put this out just in case an argument that Gojo would in this scenario.
i love this video alot, ngl 10 10
Glazing so hard the screen turned white
one thing you're missing
sukuna has the ability to use his domain after it was burned out by RCT by using a different part of his brain, meaning heian era sukuna wouldve used a domain after gojos had burned out
Tbf he actually learnt the ‘rct circuit’ of using different parts of the brain from Gojo 😂
Open barrier infinite void sounds so cool. Like you enter and you are vegetable in an instant. Like some kind of ground 0
Imagine gojo with binding vows like sukuna, "200% purple(without having urahime and gakuganji having to perform rituals), strengthening the info output of unlimited void to kill people under 5 minutes etc.)
I don't think thats how IV works but in general I agree
Sukuna uses his secret binding vow technique and in exchange for his 2 special grade cursed tools he can refine his domain
Ummmm I don't think thats how that works XD
@@Allons-Y-04 The chef of binding vows can cook something up for sure
1:39 "it's not like sukuna is went around hunting children socerers"
Sukuna at the very first episode : *WHERE ARE THE WOMAN AND CHILDREN*
Sorcerers****
I saw this thumbnail 30 seconds ago and was like meg. Then i saw it was made by Allons and now im here ❤️
You forgot uraume would be glazing and d-riding gojo 😂😂😂
Trueeeee
The heian basketweaver would have to realize that growing an extra pair of arms wouldn't help against Gojo since he didn't have Daddy Mahoraga to help.
competition always makes people better
7:31 WHY DOES GOJO HAVE FROG GIRL FROM MHA'S SMILE OMG HELP-
If gojo used a binding vow in the second domain clash when
Sukuna used his bounding vow,changes everything.if gojo used a binding vow to give up his sure hit effect of unlimited void in order to strengthen his barrier which means the domain barrier would be indestructible due to the binding vow. Which means gojo and sukuna now have to fight to determine who.wins. and with infinity gojo is most likely to win
don't forget that angel and the generals of clans were also in the heian era considering it was stated that sukuna defeated original body angel