Is Your Frame Causing Problems In Your FPV Drone?

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  • Опубліковано 24 сер 2022
  • Here We Look At How The FPV Frame Can Cause Issues With Gyro Noise And Make For Hot Motors Also FPV Frame Resonance
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  • @propsoff
    @propsoff  Рік тому +4

    Hello Everyone! Thank you for subscribing to my channel and for your continued support and feedback! Here we look at a situation that would make tuning a nightmare, or like me, flying impossible. Hope this can help someone. Enjoy the Breeze...👍🏻🍻👊🏻

  • @zero-voltzfpv5715
    @zero-voltzfpv5715 Рік тому +3

    I have a build I could not get to tune due to a huge resonace at 70hz. I'm convinced it is the frame design. It has a large hoop on the front to accommodate a insta360, kind of the same situation where it just flops all around

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +2

      So frustrating! I so wish I would have found out sooner. Hopefully this video will help people like us from having to go through all that aggravation..

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Рік тому +3

    Yeah, those arms didn't have nearly enough carbon. Pawel Spychalski uses to fly 7 inchers and he said you need at least 6mm carbon arms. And probably a bit more thickness as well.
    Anyway, I'm happy you fixed it! 😃
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      Hey MC's.. Hope all is good.. Yeah, back when I built my first 7incher, I went with the Iflight XL8. It's a nice frame but discontinued...

  • @andrebalsa203
    @andrebalsa203 Рік тому +2

    Clearly a resonance issue caused by a lack of rigidity of the carbon frame, as your excellent investigation shows. And indeed this will have a complex interaction with the gyro. Excellent video, thanks for sharing !

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      I can only hope this video will save someone the many hours, I (embarrassingly) put into this one, Lol.. I appreciate your feedback...👍🏻🍻👊🏻

  • @nicoloevangelista1881
    @nicoloevangelista1881 Рік тому +2

    Love your old school Drone :D Pretty clean ! :D

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому

      Appreciate your feedback Nicolo...🍻

  • @flyingdutchmanfpv
    @flyingdutchmanfpv Рік тому +2

    Very informative, thank you. Not something you would expect from a decent frame design. Would have drove me mad. This is one going on my 'check 1st list' for sure 👍

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      Absolutely, and yes, it drove me crazy and I really began to dislike the whole idea of it; However, I'm super happy to report it flew amazingly yesterday! I finally got to FPV maiden this ripper. The CNCmadness V3 with 7mm arms has little to no vibes, Hooray!

  • @KingFPV
    @KingFPV Рік тому +2

    ive been having problems with my 7" Super G+ for over a year. I have such violent vibrations the footage is just not worth even reviewing. It is especially bad in the FPV feed & I have done everything I can think of to get rid of the oscillations. Therefore, I have installed it in the storage unit. Boy has that old school build chopped some weeds. Thumbs up!

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      I appreciate a thumbs up. Thank you and Enjoy the Breeze...👍🏻🍻👊🏻

  • @airfriedquadsbw
    @airfriedquadsbw Рік тому +1

    I came up with a way to put the frame under tension without cables. It even reduces weight by a little. Tension reduces vibration, or raises the frequency of the frame, thus reducing problematic noise. Flights are so smooth and stable and cool to cold motors. 🥶

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому

      That sounds cool. Do you have a video? I don't allow links in comments but you could describe were to see it...🍻

  • @raffyturc
    @raffyturc Рік тому +2

    nice investigation! I have a 6" H-frame(mark IV clone). recently, it "howls" at certain rpm while in flight. ill check frame if it also wobbles when motor runs. cheers!

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +2

      I appreciate your feedback. I wish I would have been more suspicious of the frame earlier. Would have saved me some time..

  • @amirkhan-fd3mv
    @amirkhan-fd3mv Рік тому +1

    thanks for this great video was going to same issue with another frame hskrc x328 after looking at your video i am thinking to drop that frame.

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому

      My pleasure.. I spent so much time wasted trying to figure out the PIDs, never will tune that out...

  • @bugsy742
    @bugsy742 Рік тому +1

    I’m having serious Jello issues with my Foxeer Aura frame so I’m SO glad you made this video as I’m at my whits end with it 😔
    Off to the bench I go! 🤞😅🤝

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      Let me know what you find. I was pulling my hair out 4shO!

    • @bugsy742
      @bugsy742 Рік тому +1

      @@propsoff I bet mate 😱😅
      I’ll let ya know 🤞🙏

  • @MatthewTaylor3
    @MatthewTaylor3 Рік тому +1

    I can attest that what this man says here is the truth. I got the SAME issue with my V4 version of this frame too. It burnt up an ESC, and heat up my motors. When it flies, it sounds like a motor with bad bearings the moment I reduce throttle.

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      It was embarrassing how much time I spent and the time of others. Unfortunately... But its flying like a dream now...🍻

  • @mfrfpv9079
    @mfrfpv9079 Рік тому +1

    X class FTW nice video 📹 👌 👏 now I gotta do a bigger kwad

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      🤣 Going to need ya a 10incher...

    • @mfrfpv9079
      @mfrfpv9079 Рік тому +1

      @@propsoff Thats what she said you whoopin tonight?

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому

      @@mfrfpv9079
      Yes

  • @nerdCopter
    @nerdCopter Рік тому +1

    +1👍 💪 i recently 3d printed a crossarm (thick) for a similar problem, worked pretty fair. carbon crossarm would be better than 3d print; however, give it a try. the only way to get a thick crossarm in my opinion is to integrate a skid.

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      Interesting, I didn't think about it at the time. Like swaybars links.. Yeah, I got a full refund and then got a CNCMaddness frame...🍻

    • @xfire4420
      @xfire4420 Місяць тому +1

      @@propsoff yea I just fabricated aluminum bars that go in-between and it finally fly's stable without crazy vibrations heating the motors up.

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Місяць тому

      @@xfire4420
      I appreciate your feedback!
      If you find yourself having some extra time, I would like to see 2 pictures of your modifications...🍻
      Propsoffohio@gmail.com

  • @paulmillard1130
    @paulmillard1130 Рік тому +1

    A number of 7 inch frames with narrow arms get lateral shakes such as Tyro 129 but don't get handling issues . I would look at filtering or perhaps too much motor run out before blaming the frame. Does look dodgy though.

  • @AgroAaronFpv
    @AgroAaronFpv Рік тому +1

    Have you tried the Banggod 7" frame? I have two of them with 2810 1500kv motors and they absolutely rip. Flies like my 5" quads.
    Good luck man!

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      I'm good, I got the V3 in there and she's going to be a ripper...

  • @MatthewTaylor3
    @MatthewTaylor3 Рік тому +1

    The V3 version had more sturdy arms in my opinon.

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      I agree, they are made for individual ESCs too...🍻

  • @PIXLPUSHRFPV
    @PIXLPUSHRFPV Рік тому +1

    The source one v3 is where it's at. Got a great emuflight tune if you want it

    • @PIXLPUSHRFPV
      @PIXLPUSHRFPV Рік тому +1

      The deadcat 7" v3 I mean*... Get that one

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      The V3 has been a good frame for me, sort of a go to frame when in doubt. Personally, I know zero of Emuflight...

    • @PIXLPUSHRFPV
      @PIXLPUSHRFPV Рік тому +1

      It's the same as beta before sliders. Better native filtering IMO. I have the same ecos but 1500kv. You could always try emu before you disassemble but the chassis on the 4 sucks. Too flimsy

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому

      @@PIXLPUSHRFPV
      I may have to check it out then. Yeah, that V4 was a massive time waster.. I have the 1500kv 2807 Emax...🍻

  • @Mupshot
    @Mupshot Рік тому +2

    do you think its the V4 that is poorly designed, or is the carbon not cut properly? I have the 7inch V3 in my cart perpetually

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому

      I don't think it's the design, however, I wouldn't put 2807 motors on it. For me, the quality of the carbon was bad. The V3 provides more protection from the beating I'm going serve too, I do like the V3 design.

  • @michaelwilson3946
    @michaelwilson3946 Рік тому +1

    I see the same amount of flex on the mark5 frame. Right after building it, i was looking for a different frame. Not a lot of options for the hdzero freestyle vtx

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому

      That VTX looks chunky. I just wonder how anyone tuned that frame...🤷🏻

    • @michaelwilson3946
      @michaelwilson3946 Рік тому +1

      PropsOff right now I have the hdzero in the quadmula siren. Flying that and the volador. Both seemed easy to tune. I have yet to venture in the rabbits black box

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому

      @@michaelwilson3946
      Haven't seen those frames..

    • @michaelwilson3946
      @michaelwilson3946 8 місяців тому

      Update* cnc madness is awesome. Just finished designing a frame with their help. Skelter5 v2 available on printables. Should be on cncdrones soon. 5.5 props and super clean blackbox

  • @chubbyfpv5477
    @chubbyfpv5477 Рік тому +2

    designers just stretching 5inch arms and not designing for the larger stresses?

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +2

      I'm not sure what to think about the design. I was really going after a lite build and the design may be fine. The carbon was not. Still, I don't think I would put 2807 motors on that frame. Maybe some pancakes for endurance.

  • @airfriedquadsbw
    @airfriedquadsbw Рік тому +1

    I'm in Cleveland. Who flies around here? I have never seen anyone ever flying fpv but me.

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому

      There's a strong racing crew up there. Not much Freestyle from what I know. Look up Multigp.com and find chapters, you'll see 3 of them and they are all related basically...🍻

  • @apachesmokemachining6487
    @apachesmokemachining6487 Рік тому +1

    Looks like rubber arms, the new frame makes a big difference

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      I still haven't got to FPV the new frame, but the Blackbox and LOS was most excellent. I sort of feel exonerated. I just finished filming the install and effects of motor insulation pads. It was a little surprising of how it changed little to nothing, Lol. But maybe someone will enjoy me wasting my time and find it interesting too. Enjoy the Breeze...👍🏻🍻👊🏻

  • @benargee
    @benargee Рік тому +2

    Props off or fingers off 🤷‍♂️

  • @BOTGRINDER
    @BOTGRINDER Рік тому +2

    I would not say my fame has caused many issues no.
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    jk i make spelling mistakes all day.

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +3

      Lol.. A mistake made unnoticed is left to be a mistake; However, a mistake recognized for what it is, adds character.
      How do you spell dessert again... 🍦
      By the way, couldn't agree more about analog and FPV Exchange...👍🏻🍻👊🏻

    • @BOTGRINDER
      @BOTGRINDER Рік тому +3

      @@propsoff haha, i personally hate being corrected on spelling but i thought this one was funny.

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +2

      @@BOTGRINDER
      I stand corrected, I only now realized how famously funny it is because sometimes my mind is a little slow on the uptake...🤣
      Also, I hope Caddx will send you 10 VTXs - I would like to see more.. You also bring up a good point, about future gear availabilities. I tend to really dislike anything proprietary.

  • @FlyturboKwad
    @FlyturboKwad Рік тому +2

    That frame needs 4 braces all around.

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      It needed something 4shO...👍🏻🍻👊🏻

  • @MatthewTaylor3
    @MatthewTaylor3 Рік тому +1

    Be a MAN, leave the props ON. lol

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому

      NO WAY!
      I also pre-arm...🤣

    • @MatthewTaylor3
      @MatthewTaylor3 Рік тому +1

      @@propsoff Pre-arm, is for sissies. lol

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff  Рік тому +1

      @@MatthewTaylor3
      Saved me a few times in jacket weather 4shO!