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The rise of a state to dominance cedes such an advantage to the ruling class that wealth inequality explodes. Members of the elite exploit the created class tension to seize power with the coerced support of lower classes, leading to consolidation of political power. Examplesss - late Roman Republic / Jewel Seizer + Modern US / God Emperor Trump + perhaps soon all of us, big sad, RIP. PS love ya Stoney
I'm a pretty big history buff, and overall my rule is "nothing is too insane" in real life history people did shit 10× more impressive and 10× dumber than you could ever write. From one man holding a trench line, to a revolutionary dying from eating weeds in his backyard, people do some things.
A good example of being more dumb than you could write is the children's crusade. Where European Christian armed forces had lost, some Europeans decided that children, due to their innocence, would have divine protection. The children were mostly sold into slavery.
@@gradipadia9800 Tf u mean some guy that calls himself the brother of jesus christ had the 10 strongest empires in the world join together to put down his stupid rebellion in a several hundred year old dynasty?? Is this a joke?? Nobody will take this seriously dude you should remove this horrible joke from your worldbuilding😑
Here is an archetype you may not have A hero in a great conflict loses a lover and starts wiping out the enemy. they tend to be mostly undefeatable until something special hits them in battle. at the end of the battle they fall. They tend to fall at the last battle. the battle tends to wipe out the enemy. The historical/mythological example is Achilles in the Trojan War. A fictional example is the Elder Scrolls character Pelinal Whitestrake from the Alessian Slave Rebellion. i hope this is helpful towards filling out you list
That's generally the basis for one of my characters, who is actually a legend/myth in my fantasy world General premise is that he is an elf, doesn't like how slow the elves do things so he becomes a warrior, and he fights and wins wars and shit, causing some good and some bad along his way, and dies when the god of war, fearing he may be surpassed, duels him. That's an oversimplification but generally what you need to know.
An event suggestion to add to the sheet. If a political entity exists for a long and continuous time, its idea become a legitimatizer for potential claimants and unifiers. Example: China and Rome.
An ancient technology resurfaces as a solution to an energy crisis, turning a small city-state into a world superpower. While this technology had been vaguely understood for almost two millennia, the original inventor had no ambition for greatness and the only working prototype was lost in a major disaster, so history turned its attention elsewhere. (Based very loosely on the Industrial Revolution and the burning of the library of alexandria). Not totally original, but what if ancient Egypt had steam engines?
tbh you kinda just gotta start with *something*. Don't get too caught up in the first initial things, you can always circle back to it later. Maybe I should've said that in the video lmao
I actually have a background empire which "fixed" (aka, perpetually delayed) that problem at 20:50! It's a multi-multiversal empire who has been in a golden age for a couple millenia. The reasons why it's so successful? It's still run by the same dude who started the whole thing, ~40% of the population is (technically) that same dude, the ruler somehow manages to balance every single thing so that it doesn't spontaneously combust, and ultimately most citizens realise that living in this near-utopic empire is better than whatever would replace it. It's like holding together a bunch of repelling magnets together with magnets in hopes of creating a spider-tank, but somehow, like the immortal words of Todd Howard: "It just works.".
I wonder what would happen if we invented nitroglycerin before we invented gunpowder, wars would probably be very brutal. just coat the fields around the fortress with nitroglycerin, you got your own primitive mine field, probably.
Some examples to add to the cheat sheet: • Bernadotte’s wild story of how he ended up being the king of Sweden. • Pol Pot’s Kampuchean extreme ruralization experiment. • Japanese imperialism being fueled by lack of land and resources coupled with the need to fit into a cultural and societal mold imposed on them by colonialists. • How Napoleon’s armies were sent to arrest him and instead came back to him when he escaped exile. • A scientific golden age being fueled by a mandate from God to know and study (Islamic Golden Age). • Countercultural movements becoming so mainstream they become the norm and status quo and henceforth the traditional ways become revolutionary, and the cycle turns again... • The parallels between China and Rome, a unitarian civilizatory ‘eternal’state.
My favourite part of history was when a person called Samuel Kinnyee (S. Kinnyee) set out a fleet of lone warriors with the help of a military commander called Blake Erdwin (B. Erd) to attack an ancient Kingdom of Santonia. S. Kinnyee was able to conquer the Kingdom with ease because B. Erd brought all of his well known skilled warriors from the Russian Kingdom of OldFang, S. Kinnyee then set up his own colonial Empire by the name of Vanakunia which later went on to conquer massive parts of the region and became a quite well respected example of how skilful warriors beat the quantity of warriors in history.
My favourite part of history was when a person called Adolf Hitler (A. Hitler) set out his army of German soldiers who believed they were the ultimate race to attack the nation of the Soviet Union. A. Hitler was unable to conquer the Soviets because Joseph Stalin (J. Stalin) had a shit ton more soldiers than A. Hitler. And that became a quite well respected example of how an insane amount of good-enough soldiers and weapons beat the so-called best soldiers in history.
Love worldbuilding. Your videos have been helpful to me! I have a world i buuld with my siblings and its super amazing discovering what they have nade at the same time
Ey! I love that you world build with your siblings, that sounds super fun. I'm glad these videos have helped you out, I'll try to get more out just for you guys.
Watching this makes me want to make/simulate a persistent world for myself with permadeath, random events/ kingdoms etc in rpg maker, would be pretty fun to do. :D
If you're interested in what causes dark ages and golden ages, you should check out the work of the historian Peter Turchin. Crudely simplified: times are good -> general population expands -> price of labour goes down -> population paid less -> population is poorer -> social unrest. This goes in tandem with another process: times are good -> elite population expands -> too many elite aspirants for not enough positions of power in the state -> elite competition for power intensifies -> counter-elites rise to challenge system -> social instability. Revolutionary situations often arise when counter-elites ally with poor members of population to overthrown old elites, often resulting in purges. These epochs last roughly fifty years.
This is actualy the thing I have been strugling to do right. Thank you so much! Very helpful 👍 Also, that sneacky Dagot Ur cameo made me chuckle. Great video, keep it up ❤
Good video! It highlights many of the challenges I face in my own worldbuilding. However, there's one aspect you didn't touch on: the point of divergence OR the art of taking our contemporary world and veering it toward a future (or another reality) that aligns with our vision for our fictional world. Or more precisely, how to create a future historical narrative starting from a specific point in our own timeline (kind of a "What If?" scenario). More concretely, I'm grappling with the challenge of creating a historical framework for my universe that spans from the present day to the year 2300. Normally, I would use an excuse like "There was a terrible war, and many records from that period no longer exist." Unfortunately, I have to consider another faction (or a second humanity, if you will) whose origin I need to explain. So, I'm forced to conceptualize a timeline that explains how this split occurred and their individual evolution. It's not as easy as it sounds... That's why I think a follow-up video on this very topic would be just as welcome. Thank you, Alain.
Try doing something with literal splits? For example, there was once a land bridge from russia to the americas, allowing their history to diverge. On the other hand, you could use ocean currents, or some sort of travel difficulty (mountains) that makes it so hard for them to interact that their history literally splits.
The fact that history is so dark is why I’m struggling with creating one. Real life history already makes me cry sometimes, I don’t want to have to cry while writing. I like it when things get really bad but then everything works out in the end and that just isn’t how history works.
Looking at the list at 4:50 I can tell that we watch a lot of the same channels. In case you don't know them already, allow me to propose three other additions to that list: M. Laser, History Hustle and Sir Manatee. I think you'll like them.
When talknig about world building history. One thing ive thought about that makes it work well is everyones got their own idea on what happened. Which makes it fun to see how everyone interprets things and how that can effect the future.
came to the video for the dnd worldbuilding and history advice, but liked it for the bionicle example - the great spirit robot world-type is one i have yet to run, but really want to
Event: A small citystate focuses on trade, this creates a powerful merchant class that turns the government into a republic. Suggested Context: The city needs coastal access, the region needs to be rather disunited because strong empires are such a threat to citystates that the leader will enjoy a rally around the flag effect. Inspiration: Venice and the other Italian sea-republics, Athens and the other Greek cities, Cartage and the other Phoenician citystates.
Event: A nations conquests are administered in a way that benefits the elites who turn the state ultra-militaristic as a result. Suggested Context: This also works without actual conquest if the elites profit from raids during wars or profit from the arms industry or profit from the increased power of the military as a result of wars. There has to be a way to create Casu Belli though. Inspiration: Ancient Rome (agriculturally and through provincial bureaucracy titles, conquests boosting the general`s political career), several medieval kingdoms (extra crownland or colonies strengthening the position of the king), Dictators who`s power depends on the relevancy of the military, United States of America where corporations of the military-industrial-complex give the congress good financial incentives to go to war.
Event: After a political, religious or cultural split the different factions are each others arch nemesis because they consider each other the biggest threat to their identity or legitimacy, after a few decades or centuries when the dust settles they recognize their shared values/heritage and become "best buddies". Suggested Context: The split needs to be accepted as permanent, i. e. not like the Koreas. Contact with third parties has to exist to bring the old enemies together again. Inspiration: West Rome & East Rome, Catholicism and Orthodoxy, Catholicism and Protestantism (at least in Europe), even Christianity & Judaism, Britain and the USA, German Empire and Austria-Hungary, all member-states of the EU with each other (France and Germany for example), and potentially Iran and Saudi-Arabia in the future.
Event: A federal state without strong central control loses unity and their geopolitical opponents abuses this by allying with some factions inside the federation with when prevents/vetoes unified action against this opponent. This may lead to the dissolution of the federation after a military or diplomatic defeat. Suggested Context: There need to exist strong and distinct factions inside the federal state. Inspiration: Holy Roman Empire (mainly France under Luis XIV., to some extend Sweden), Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Maratha Confederation (British East India Company)
Event: Racist oppression is overthrown, but counter-racism flourishes. Suggested Context: The regime-change has to be hard-fought in a bloody war, radicalizing the oppressed. Inspiration: Haitian revolution, Zimbabwe, civil wars in Ruanda and Burundi.
Event: Punishment becomes so widespread that protesting against it will be punished, as result people abuse this punishment against their enemies. Suggested Context: The political and religious system needs to be very authoritarian and dogmatic. If the belongings of the executed go to the state this can also really motivate more murder (like some roman emperors). Inspiration: Witch hunting, Stalin's Purges, Auto-genocide under Pol Pot, Holocaust, French revolution under Robespierre, Zhu Yuanzhang's Purges
A bunch of elites start buying once good farmland that's being sold cheaply due to neighboring kingdoms invading and destroying it, but after central authority is restored they become lucratively wealthy on their now massive estates -- Byzantine history, and specifically how the Komnemos dynasty rose to power (they were some of the estate owners).
no one's commented any archetypes as far as i can see yet so i will contribute the best i can A structure that supports the livelihood of a large population collapses, or another tragic event causes many inhabitants to migrate, often turning to nomadic life or joining entirely different cultures (collapse of the great dam of marib) A diverse entity struggles with rising tensions between internal factions that eventually boil over entirely into a complex civil war from a potentially minor event (Yugoslavian civil war, Lebanese civil war) these could be described better idk. go do something silly stoney. great basin
I think writing a subjective secreat history is good and then make a few subjective versions of it that you use in the story. after all history can be a bit confusing. fictional history is often to clear.
I like to consider my worldbuilding to be more or less realistic, like for instance I have one project where I'm trying to go into detail with the how and why of nearly everything, down to the economics and political systems! But, in that world, there is a massive outlier. An empire, which calls itself the White Stone. It is impossibly large, Reaching nearly to the north pole all the way past the eqyator, from coast to coast to coast. Even reaching to other continents. The White Stone wasn't always so massive, but it has existed for well over a thousand years, slowly expanding through the eras. Just to be clear, it is entirely unrealistic. But hey, I have a fantasy world, I might as well do something unrealistic and silly! (Plus there are some other reasons why it still exists, but i can only infudump so much in the yt comment section)
I also enjoy worlds primarily driven by human existence and behavior, with other races in the background, as flavor rather than essential to the shaping of history. I've dabbled with many other ideas, Tolkien's Elves being the central force for thousands of years is fascinating, Azeroth and Tamriel are far too complex to write a detailed chronology about (in my opinion), but they work well as settings for video games. I've settled on 4 ft tall humans-not dwarves or hobbits-who are proportionately weaker for their size, with the same anatomy and mental capability.
Oooo crowd sourced history -the Baltic Crusades and how the idea of a holy land can be a fallacy if your religion's goal is conversion -Gobekli Tepe and how nomadic people sometimes have settlements(?) where they converge for religious practice or trade or who truly knows rn what GT was used for. -Alexander the Great and the wars of the Diodochi after his death. Massive empires being torn asunder due to the death of the unifier and how that creates ripples through modernity. -the rise of Islam. A new powerhouse religion appears in a region that doesn't agree with that faith and also has a nearby powerhouse faith to contend with
Here's an example. A minor political figure takes an existing technology and pushes it to its logical endpoint, and ends up winning conflicts so convincingly that everyone around him begins copying his technique. This technique ends up defining an entire era of political development, long after the original popularizer's family has died out. + Fulk the Black, the guy who made castles a vital part of European geopolitics for 500 years. + Shang Yang, whose reforms in the state of Qin allowed it to conquer China and become the blueprint for all future dynasties to work from. + The 1st chanyu of the Xiongnu, who created the first example of the _khaganate,_ a political system that would dominate the Eurasian steppes for 1500 years.
There is a general understanding that they were people who ended up migrating towards the Bronze Age powers which were already struggling for the same reason pushing the migrating people to move.
I personally, in fact, am a big fan of historical materialism. However, it seems that your communism has already eaten itself en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930%E2%80%931933 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_famine
@@Stoneworks 8 million starve in the capitalist world... every year. And notice that the first two were the last famines in those states? Imagine that, where famine had been a common thing, for hundreds of years, again and again, then one socialist reform of agriculture later, boom, the famines just ended, amazing that.
@@PowersOfDarkness Capitalism has its problems definitely as the incentives it creates economically do cause hunger, yet at the same time generally speaking communism when implemented creates much higher chance of people starving to death due to radical policies which in the desire to control agriculture lead to millions dying when it wouldn't have occurred under a more moderate free market where growing food is incentivised by the farmers gaining more money by growing more food. Meanwhile both capitalist and communist countries will just suffer roughly equally from natural disasters and more. Communism necessitates an extractive agricultural system where the state controls the means of food production, while a free market economy is inclusive through having both the people, farmers and states all benefit from a system that rewards creating enough food.
@@StoneworksThank you very much! Perhaps such a bloodthirsty idea should be replaced with something less destructive. The nordic countries are doing well in this regard.
I usually just start from the beginning of the universe and plan basic dates for the appearance of life on planets then i elvolve empires, cultures, religions, and make basic events that change the history that also gives me writing prompts at the same time and i usually continue this for the entire history of the species (roughly 400,000 years)... I. Uhhh. I have zero pages of lore so far.......
There is a country with two economically distinct regions which have recently fought a war. The autocratic ruler dies while their heirs are still children. Their sibling-supported by the population in one of the regions-takes over the throne, imprisoning the previous ruler's spouse. Can you tell I recently finished The Princes in the Tower?
Historical archetype: Some peasant are sick and tired of their taxes and refuse to bend to feudalism. They fight their lord for freedom abolishing nobiltity in their territory. Altought outnumbered and poorly equip they manage to win and gain independance by using their environment. The republic survive because they played their neighbour rivalry against each other and by working with the merchant republic. This is based. This is base on the peasant republic of Dirthmanschen.
The January 6th example was a pretty poor way of describing different perspectives. All of your perspectives painted the same general picture, just from different angles. The importance of different perspectives is that the whole picture of what happened (peaceful protest, riot, insurrection) can change depending on the angle you are viewing it from (protestor, politican, spectator).
Lemme add something to the chart. A giant boulder falls down into a well and blows up the entire town's water supply. This leads to a single individual, know as "Marky Marcus Aurelicoos" to use his well in order to corner the town's water market and become rich, he declares himself the "Markos Aurelickuz, Throat King, Destroyer of Beds". Markos Aurelickuz then goes into the next town over and tries to get everyone else involved in his plan, but it doesn't work because they ALREADY have a Throat King, Destroyer of Beds, nammed Danny. Danny and Markos Aurelickuz then get into a water balloon fight, which Markos obviously wins (because Danny's a little jack off) and he claims the town as his own. He then digs a tunnel singlehandedly mind you, meaning he used one hand while he was playing Minecraft PE on his ipad in the other, from his home town to this neighboring town, which he then has drug traffickers pay to use so they can fraffick drugs into the town he owns. This secures his legacy as a really well liked guy, and someone who will be admired and read about in school books and comic books for years. This is based off the 2016 presidential El
So we don’t just look at what happened, but the factors that drove events, why did the rebels start fighting the empire? How did they gain so much support? How did everyday people or institutions feel about them?😊
Good video as always! Though your Putin comment is a bit hypocritical. I don’t think war is good, nor that Putin is a great man or anything, but Europe isn’t a saint either. Whatever you can accuse Putin of, NATO has done it too and longe since before Putin ever started doing shit. So yeah, accusing Putin of breaking the “diplomacy” of Europe is short sighted. NATO has been the main warmongering force in the planet in the last 30 years, Putin’s invasion does not undo anything NATO has done and is doing.
If u want to learn how to write histories as stories just read Orlando Figgis. Now I will say however that when theirs 900 pages you will wish he was more to the point lol
I appreciate and agree with you on this, although I will admit I think I ham-fisted it and didn't make a cogent point about it. My next Minecraft video will hopefully be more thorough and appropriate to reflect upon January 6
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The rise of a state to dominance cedes such an advantage to the ruling class that wealth inequality explodes. Members of the elite exploit the created class tension to seize power with the coerced support of lower classes, leading to consolidation of political power.
Examplesss - late Roman Republic / Jewel Seizer + Modern US / God Emperor Trump + perhaps soon all of us, big sad, RIP.
PS love ya Stoney
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I'm a pretty big history buff, and overall my rule is "nothing is too insane" in real life history people did shit 10× more impressive and 10× dumber than you could ever write.
From one man holding a trench line, to a revolutionary dying from eating weeds in his backyard, people do some things.
And the fact that two guys caused tens of millions of death because one didn't pass an exam while the other one wasn't accepted to a certain school.
A good example of being more dumb than you could write is the children's crusade. Where European Christian armed forces had lost, some Europeans decided that children, due to their innocence, would have divine protection. The children were mostly sold into slavery.
“The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.” -Mark Twain.
@@gradipadia9800 Tf u mean some guy that calls himself the brother of jesus christ had the 10 strongest empires in the world join together to put down his stupid rebellion in a several hundred year old dynasty??
Is this a joke?? Nobody will take this seriously dude you should remove this horrible joke from your worldbuilding😑
@@dulguunjargal1199the great powers joined in on the BOXER rebellion, not the taiping. The taiping was defeated by the qing dynasty themselves
Here is an archetype you may not have
A hero in a great conflict loses a lover and starts wiping out the enemy. they tend to be mostly undefeatable until something special hits them in battle. at the end of the battle they fall. They tend to fall at the last battle. the battle tends to wipe out the enemy.
The historical/mythological example is Achilles in the Trojan War.
A fictional example is the Elder Scrolls character Pelinal Whitestrake from the Alessian Slave Rebellion.
i hope this is helpful towards filling out you list
That's generally the basis for one of my characters, who is actually a legend/myth in my fantasy world
General premise is that he is an elf, doesn't like how slow the elves do things so he becomes a warrior, and he fights and wins wars and shit, causing some good and some bad along his way, and dies when the god of war, fearing he may be surpassed, duels him.
That's an oversimplification but generally what you need to know.
@@wooblydooblygod3857cool, show the internet someday
An event suggestion to add to the sheet. If a political entity exists for a long and continuous time, its idea become a legitimatizer for potential claimants and unifiers. Example: China and Rome.
This is fun to watch as a history student in uni whose first proper history lecture/lesson is next monday :D
best of luck!
As a history student with 5 years of experience, I mostly wanna say have fun
An ancient technology resurfaces as a solution to an energy crisis, turning a small city-state into a world superpower. While this technology had been vaguely understood for almost two millennia, the original inventor had no ambition for greatness and the only working prototype was lost in a major disaster, so history turned its attention elsewhere. (Based very loosely on the Industrial Revolution and the burning of the library of alexandria). Not totally original, but what if ancient Egypt had steam engines?
Very cool, I would read the hell out of that
Me stuck writing cause a prerequisite event needed to be establish.
Stoneworks: So anyway History.
tbh you kinda just gotta start with *something*. Don't get too caught up in the first initial things, you can always circle back to it later.
Maybe I should've said that in the video lmao
I actually have a background empire which "fixed" (aka, perpetually delayed) that problem at 20:50! It's a multi-multiversal empire who has been in a golden age for a couple millenia. The reasons why it's so successful? It's still run by the same dude who started the whole thing, ~40% of the population is (technically) that same dude, the ruler somehow manages to balance every single thing so that it doesn't spontaneously combust, and ultimately most citizens realise that living in this near-utopic empire is better than whatever would replace it. It's like holding together a bunch of repelling magnets together with magnets in hopes of creating a spider-tank, but somehow, like the immortal words of Todd Howard: "It just works.".
I wonder what would happen if we invented nitroglycerin before we invented gunpowder, wars would probably be very brutal. just coat the fields around the fortress with nitroglycerin, you got your own primitive mine field, probably.
Some examples to add to the cheat sheet:
• Bernadotte’s wild story of how he ended up being the king of Sweden.
• Pol Pot’s Kampuchean extreme ruralization experiment.
• Japanese imperialism being fueled by lack of land and resources coupled with the need to fit into a cultural and societal mold imposed on them by colonialists.
• How Napoleon’s armies were sent to arrest him and instead came back to him when he escaped exile.
• A scientific golden age being fueled by a mandate from God to know and study (Islamic Golden Age).
• Countercultural movements becoming so mainstream they become the norm and status quo and henceforth the traditional ways become revolutionary, and the cycle turns again...
• The parallels between China and Rome, a unitarian civilizatory ‘eternal’state.
1:39 I think you forgot to close a tab of yours.. XD
My favourite part of history was when a person called Samuel Kinnyee (S. Kinnyee) set out a fleet of lone warriors with the help of a military commander called Blake Erdwin (B. Erd) to attack an ancient Kingdom of Santonia. S. Kinnyee was able to conquer the Kingdom with ease because B. Erd brought all of his well known skilled warriors from the Russian Kingdom of OldFang, S. Kinnyee then set up his own colonial Empire by the name of Vanakunia which later went on to conquer massive parts of the region and became a quite well respected example of how skilful warriors beat the quantity of warriors in history.
My favourite part of history was when a person called Adolf Hitler (A. Hitler) set out his army of German soldiers who believed they were the ultimate race to attack the nation of the Soviet Union. A. Hitler was unable to conquer the Soviets because Joseph Stalin (J. Stalin) had a shit ton more soldiers than A. Hitler. And that became a quite well respected example of how an insane amount of good-enough soldiers and weapons beat the so-called best soldiers in history.
Love worldbuilding. Your videos have been helpful to me! I have a world i buuld with my siblings and its super amazing discovering what they have nade at the same time
Ey! I love that you world build with your siblings, that sounds super fun. I'm glad these videos have helped you out, I'll try to get more out just for you guys.
your lucky my siblings don't wanna worldbuild i prefer to do it on the minecraft server anyway
My sibling and most of my friends have absolutely no interest in worldbuilding and history
Watching this makes me want to make/simulate a persistent world for myself with permadeath, random events/ kingdoms etc in rpg maker, would be pretty fun to do. :D
always a good day when stoney uploads (its midnight and i need to go to bed)
go to bed Karambitbee.
@@Stoneworks not until i finish the video
I CANT be the only one that sees those tabs
If you're interested in what causes dark ages and golden ages, you should check out the work of the historian Peter Turchin. Crudely simplified: times are good -> general population expands -> price of labour goes down -> population paid less -> population is poorer -> social unrest. This goes in tandem with another process: times are good -> elite population expands -> too many elite aspirants for not enough positions of power in the state -> elite competition for power intensifies -> counter-elites rise to challenge system -> social instability. Revolutionary situations often arise when counter-elites ally with poor members of population to overthrown old elites, often resulting in purges. These epochs last roughly fifty years.
This is actualy the thing I have been strugling to do right. Thank you so much! Very helpful 👍
Also, that sneacky Dagot Ur cameo made me chuckle. Great video, keep it up ❤
I noticed in your history channels you didn’t have the Fall of Civilizations Podcast, which I would really recommend
You could also document the January 6 as a journey through American history via the artifacts and places in the capitol building.
Good video! It highlights many of the challenges I face in my own worldbuilding. However, there's one aspect you didn't touch on: the point of divergence OR the art of taking our contemporary world and veering it toward a future (or another reality) that aligns with our vision for our fictional world.
Or more precisely, how to create a future historical narrative starting from a specific point in our own timeline (kind of a "What If?" scenario). More concretely, I'm grappling with the challenge of creating a historical framework for my universe that spans from the present day to the year 2300. Normally, I would use an excuse like "There was a terrible war, and many records from that period no longer exist." Unfortunately, I have to consider another faction (or a second humanity, if you will) whose origin I need to explain. So, I'm forced to conceptualize a timeline that explains how this split occurred and their individual evolution.
It's not as easy as it sounds... That's why I think a follow-up video on this very topic would be just as welcome.
Thank you,
Alain.
Try doing something with literal splits? For example, there was once a land bridge from russia to the americas, allowing their history to diverge. On the other hand, you could use ocean currents, or some sort of travel difficulty (mountains) that makes it so hard for them to interact that their history literally splits.
8:10 I had to rewatch this part because the first time I was distracted with whatever the fuck was going on in the background lmao
wtf is that tabs
You can have one true narrative that you keep to yourself, and then everything else is interpreted… and history is always told by the victor.
Clear your tabs bruh
The fact that history is so dark is why I’m struggling with creating one. Real life history already makes me cry sometimes, I don’t want to have to cry while writing. I like it when things get really bad but then everything works out in the end and that just isn’t how history works.
you can make it so that's how your history works. You're the god of your world, it should be how you want it.
I like realism no matter how much it crushes my heart
OMG... The picture Kissinger when you mention people acting in their own self interest... Perfect.
Looking at the list at 4:50 I can tell that we watch a lot of the same channels. In case you don't know them already, allow me to propose three other additions to that list: M. Laser, History Hustle and Sir Manatee. I think you'll like them.
Stoneworks video? Instant priority.
The only slight issue is when you start including beings that live longer than humans into it. And then things kinda start to unravel at the edges
When talknig about world building history. One thing ive thought about that makes it work well is everyones got their own idea on what happened. Which makes it fun to see how everyone interprets things and how that can effect the future.
Epik, worldbuilding is one of my favorite things to do, and help out with!
4:25 I pray to you, that you don't get cancelled when you do.
came to the video for the dnd worldbuilding and history advice, but liked it for the bionicle example - the great spirit robot world-type is one i have yet to run, but really want to
Event:
A small citystate focuses on trade, this creates a powerful merchant class that turns the government into a republic.
Suggested Context:
The city needs coastal access, the region needs to be rather disunited because strong empires are such a threat to citystates that the leader will enjoy a rally around the flag effect.
Inspiration:
Venice and the other Italian sea-republics, Athens and the other Greek cities, Cartage and the other Phoenician citystates.
Event:
A nations conquests are administered in a way that benefits the elites who turn the state ultra-militaristic as a result.
Suggested Context:
This also works without actual conquest if the elites profit from raids during wars or profit from the arms industry or profit from the increased power of the military as a result of wars. There has to be a way to create Casu Belli though.
Inspiration:
Ancient Rome (agriculturally and through provincial bureaucracy titles, conquests boosting the general`s political career), several medieval kingdoms (extra crownland or colonies strengthening the position of the king), Dictators who`s power depends on the relevancy of the military, United States of America where corporations of the military-industrial-complex give the congress good financial incentives to go to war.
Event:
After a political, religious or cultural split the different factions are each others arch nemesis because they consider each other the biggest threat to their identity or legitimacy, after a few decades or centuries when the dust settles they recognize their shared values/heritage and become "best buddies".
Suggested Context:
The split needs to be accepted as permanent, i. e. not like the Koreas. Contact with third parties has to exist to bring the old enemies together again.
Inspiration:
West Rome & East Rome, Catholicism and Orthodoxy, Catholicism and Protestantism (at least in Europe), even Christianity & Judaism, Britain and the USA, German Empire and Austria-Hungary, all member-states of the EU with each other (France and Germany for example), and potentially Iran and Saudi-Arabia in the future.
Event:
A federal state without strong central control loses unity and their geopolitical opponents abuses this by allying with some factions inside the federation with when prevents/vetoes unified action against this opponent. This may lead to the dissolution of the federation after a military or diplomatic defeat.
Suggested Context:
There need to exist strong and distinct factions inside the federal state.
Inspiration:
Holy Roman Empire (mainly France under Luis XIV., to some extend Sweden), Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Maratha Confederation (British East India Company)
Event:
Racist oppression is overthrown, but counter-racism flourishes.
Suggested Context:
The regime-change has to be hard-fought in a bloody war, radicalizing the oppressed.
Inspiration:
Haitian revolution, Zimbabwe, civil wars in Ruanda and Burundi.
Event:
Punishment becomes so widespread that protesting against it will be punished, as result people abuse this punishment against their enemies.
Suggested Context:
The political and religious system needs to be very authoritarian and dogmatic. If the belongings of the executed go to the state this can also really motivate more murder (like some roman emperors).
Inspiration:
Witch hunting, Stalin's Purges, Auto-genocide under Pol Pot, Holocaust, French revolution under Robespierre, Zhu Yuanzhang's Purges
A bunch of elites start buying once good farmland that's being sold cheaply due to neighboring kingdoms invading and destroying it, but after central authority is restored they become lucratively wealthy on their now massive estates -- Byzantine history, and specifically how the Komnemos dynasty rose to power (they were some of the estate owners).
Only name I hadn't recognised was Odd Compass. Where do I get my UA-cam history vid veteran's discount?
Wow it's been a while since I've been so impressed by someone's worldbuilding guide videos. Seriously, incredible work
no one's commented any archetypes as far as i can see yet so i will contribute the best i can
A structure that supports the livelihood of a large population collapses, or another tragic event causes many inhabitants to migrate, often turning to nomadic life or joining entirely different cultures (collapse of the great dam of marib)
A diverse entity struggles with rising tensions between internal factions that eventually boil over entirely into a complex civil war from a potentially minor event (Yugoslavian civil war, Lebanese civil war)
these could be described better idk. go do something silly stoney. great basin
Is the chart at the end of the video available in any form? I found it almost the best part of the video - which was very good anyway.
Historian here, I want to give to the community in terms of lore...is there a group of Stoneworks historians? Not a player but I'm really interested.
I think writing a subjective secreat history is good and then make a few subjective versions of it that you use in the story. after all history can be a bit confusing. fictional history is often to clear.
Can you do a video where you explain how to install the texture packs?
I like to consider my worldbuilding to be more or less realistic, like for instance I have one project where I'm trying to go into detail with the how and why of nearly everything, down to the economics and political systems!
But, in that world, there is a massive outlier. An empire, which calls itself the White Stone. It is impossibly large, Reaching nearly to the north pole all the way past the eqyator, from coast to coast to coast. Even reaching to other continents. The White Stone wasn't always so massive, but it has existed for well over a thousand years, slowly expanding through the eras.
Just to be clear, it is entirely unrealistic. But hey, I have a fantasy world, I might as well do something unrealistic and silly!
(Plus there are some other reasons why it still exists, but i can only infudump so much in the yt comment section)
Came for the worldbuilding. Stayed for the Bionicle!
Didnt even watch it yet but already liked
I'm very happy to be a Christian.
9:42
I dare you to read the translations of the Samarian tablets.
I also enjoy worlds primarily driven by human existence and behavior, with other races in the background, as flavor rather than essential to the shaping of history. I've dabbled with many other ideas, Tolkien's Elves being the central force for thousands of years is fascinating, Azeroth and Tamriel are far too complex to write a detailed chronology about (in my opinion), but they work well as settings for video games. I've settled on 4 ft tall humans-not dwarves or hobbits-who are proportionately weaker for their size, with the same anatomy and mental capability.
Hey man I'm not sure if it's a joke or not but you might want to check your open tabs at 1:39
My uncle says Australia isn't real.
truth
Oooo crowd sourced history
-the Baltic Crusades and how the idea of a holy land can be a fallacy if your religion's goal is conversion
-Gobekli Tepe and how nomadic people sometimes have settlements(?) where they converge for religious practice or trade or who truly knows rn what GT was used for.
-Alexander the Great and the wars of the Diodochi after his death. Massive empires being torn asunder due to the death of the unifier and how that creates ripples through modernity.
-the rise of Islam. A new powerhouse religion appears in a region that doesn't agree with that faith and also has a nearby powerhouse faith to contend with
Stoneworks: Mythology vs History
My brain: wait are you gonna talk about bi-
Stone works: (uses Bionicle as an example)
Me: (unintelligible joy)
i like the video except for the bad parts
New world building video yay
More Kota lore finally!
Here's an example.
A minor political figure takes an existing technology and pushes it to its logical endpoint, and ends up winning conflicts so convincingly that everyone around him begins copying his technique. This technique ends up defining an entire era of political development, long after the original popularizer's family has died out.
+ Fulk the Black, the guy who made castles a vital part of European geopolitics for 500 years.
+ Shang Yang, whose reforms in the state of Qin allowed it to conquer China and become the blueprint for all future dynasties to work from.
+ The 1st chanyu of the Xiongnu, who created the first example of the _khaganate,_ a political system that would dominate the Eurasian steppes for 1500 years.
"history is easy"
Historians trying to understand who tf are the ocean people
There is a general understanding that they were people who ended up migrating towards the Bronze Age powers which were already struggling for the same reason pushing the migrating people to move.
Historical Materialism is an objectively better framework for understanding history.
Your anti-communism will eat itself.
I personally, in fact, am a big fan of historical materialism.
However, it seems that your communism has already eaten itself
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930%E2%80%931933
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_famine
@@Stoneworks 8 million starve in the capitalist world... every year.
And notice that the first two were the last famines in those states? Imagine that, where famine had been a common thing, for hundreds of years, again and again, then one socialist reform of agriculture later, boom, the famines just ended, amazing that.
@@PowersOfDarkness Capitalism has its problems definitely as the incentives it creates economically do cause hunger, yet at the same time generally speaking communism when implemented creates much higher chance of people starving to death due to radical policies which in the desire to control agriculture lead to millions dying when it wouldn't have occurred under a more moderate free market where growing food is incentivised by the farmers gaining more money by growing more food. Meanwhile both capitalist and communist countries will just suffer roughly equally from natural disasters and more.
Communism necessitates an extractive agricultural system where the state controls the means of food production, while a free market economy is inclusive through having both the people, farmers and states all benefit from a system that rewards creating enough food.
@@StoneworksThank you very much! Perhaps such a bloodthirsty idea should be replaced with something less destructive. The nordic countries are doing well in this regard.
@@Stoneworksit is kinda cringe to bring up in the video if it isn't relevant tbf
I usually just start from the beginning of the universe and plan basic dates for the appearance of life on planets then i elvolve empires, cultures, religions, and make basic events that change the history that also gives me writing prompts at the same time and i usually continue this for the entire history of the species (roughly 400,000 years)... I. Uhhh. I have zero pages of lore so far.......
There is a country with two economically distinct regions which have recently fought a war. The autocratic ruler dies while their heirs are still children. Their sibling-supported by the population in one of the regions-takes over the throne, imprisoning the previous ruler's spouse.
Can you tell I recently finished The Princes in the Tower?
I love þe kota world you created
BIONICLE LETS GOOOO
Historical archetype:
Some peasant are sick and tired of their taxes and refuse to bend to feudalism. They fight their lord for freedom abolishing nobiltity in their territory. Altought outnumbered and poorly equip they manage to win and gain independance by using their environment. The republic survive because they played their neighbour rivalry against each other and by working with the merchant republic.
This is based. This is base on the peasant republic of Dirthmanschen.
I love these kind of videos, keep it up big man! ❤
History building!?
Wish it wasn't written from the individual.
It undermines the tale told by civilizations.
man got balls of steel
The January 6th example was a pretty poor way of describing different perspectives. All of your perspectives painted the same general picture, just from different angles. The importance of different perspectives is that the whole picture of what happened (peaceful protest, riot, insurrection) can change depending on the angle you are viewing it from (protestor, politican, spectator).
This too shall pass.
My guy just explained life
Love the ph tab
Slime?
Your voice changed, it caught me by surprise.
3:55 BIONICLEEEE33W
Loved that video
Can you still add to the cheat sheet document?
Lemme add something to the chart.
A giant boulder falls down into a well and blows up the entire town's water supply. This leads to a single individual, know as "Marky Marcus Aurelicoos" to use his well in order to corner the town's water market and become rich, he declares himself the "Markos Aurelickuz, Throat King, Destroyer of Beds". Markos Aurelickuz then goes into the next town over and tries to get everyone else involved in his plan, but it doesn't work because they ALREADY have a Throat King, Destroyer of Beds, nammed Danny. Danny and Markos Aurelickuz then get into a water balloon fight, which Markos obviously wins (because Danny's a little jack off) and he claims the town as his own. He then digs a tunnel singlehandedly mind you, meaning he used one hand while he was playing Minecraft PE on his ipad in the other, from his home town to this neighboring town, which he then has drug traffickers pay to use so they can fraffick drugs into the town he owns. This secures his legacy as a really well liked guy, and someone who will be admired and read about in school books and comic books for years.
This is based off the 2016 presidential El
1:48 I didn’t come here to use vocabulary
My guy I appreciate you a lot brotha. Respect your work!!
16:20 Good soldiers follow orders.
So we don’t just look at what happened, but the factors that drove events, why did the rebels start fighting the empire? How did they gain so much support? How did everyday people or institutions feel about them?😊
As a proud Tengalan, I have to say Alang Lejbe Eda Tengalii Ejzen Kajzerryk!
Good video as always!
Though your Putin comment is a bit hypocritical. I don’t think war is good, nor that Putin is a great man or anything, but Europe isn’t a saint either. Whatever you can accuse Putin of, NATO has done it too and longe since before Putin ever started doing shit. So yeah, accusing Putin of breaking the “diplomacy” of Europe is short sighted. NATO has been the main warmongering force in the planet in the last 30 years, Putin’s invasion does not undo anything NATO has done and is doing.
Mfer put fitmc as a historian right next to invicta
the statue that look like kali were is it from
Amazing vid
Mouse Empires.
Skaven origin story mayhaps? 🐭
i must become the throat lord
If u want to learn how to write histories as stories just read Orlando Figgis. Now I will say however that when theirs 900 pages you will wish he was more to the point lol
He watches alot of the history youtubers I watch haha that's cool
Nice vid!
5:00 king who?
Cool video
i saw about 4 seconds in the 2nd to last history scene…
Form me when I world build I most forces on military, politics, and economics. With a little bit of religion.
Why did you show smile dog in the intermission?
Because I'm evil
You said non-controversial and then you said Jesus and it felt like I got kicked in the gut
Graham Hancock isn't a historian, he claims so himself
What an absolute chad using the insurrection to discuss worldbuilding.
I appreciate and agree with you on this, although I will admit I think I ham-fisted it and didn't make a cogent point about it. My next Minecraft video will hopefully be more thorough and appropriate to reflect upon January 6
Amazing
Stoneworks fans eating good tonight 🗣️🗣️