As part of a days driven game shooting the price of the cartridge is all but irrelevant. The £ difference between steel and lead for a days shooting would be less than a round of beers afterwards
@@K80Ed 32g #4 standard on the pheasant and 34g #3 for duck then? Not sure I’ll be making a full switch this season but will be definitely giving them a try. Great film too- cheers
@@shanebutcher9158 that’s why steel is the main offering. Bismuth is a rare metal so obviously the cost is well up but there is a steel option to cover all bases so you don’t have to use Bismuth unless you want to. Plenty still choose to shoot it despite the cost
Great film, but not one mention on price point.... the reason why people are not migrating to non-lead is simple, PRICE! If Hull Cart. really want to push this new replacement for lead then they need to drop the price to match the lead counterpart (or lower), then they will see a SIGNIFICANT increase in sales.....SIMPLES
They are a business at the end of the day and need to operate at a profit. The £ that goes into the development of these products is incredible, and all has to be factored in. Combined with steel shot shortages and costs of everything going up sadly there is a limit to how cheap they can be. The cartridge bill is the cheapest part of a day out game shooting by a long shot
I am yet to grasp why the new trend of wildfowl loads (32 34Grm) loads are being used on normal partridge. What is that all about. Do we now have to use large load steel cartridges in this application ? Normally I would use Hull three Crown or Imperial Game. It all seems a bit Macho and mucho??🤔 🤔
It very much depends where you are shooting. Partridge over flat ground I happily shoot with 21g 7.5 through a 20g with no problem (lead) but wouldn’t dream of this on a higher bird shoot. The objective is a clean kill, so higher birds require bigger loads. Steel is less dense than lead so you need proportionally bigger shot to hold the required energy, and with bigger shot sizes you will need a higher grammage to keep pattern density. Pick the load for the correct application and no problem.
do the actual wads meet CE EN13432? as just because the material they are made from does is not necessarily the case that the item made from the material will. Also is CE EN13432 an industrial composting standard so how long do the wads take to degrade in the English country side?
I run a game shoot. These wads mimic plastic wads in appearance and do not look good on the ground or present a good impression of shooting irrespective of them being biodegradable. I will ask people not to use them on my shoot.
The quality and tone of this production is very much coalescent to the premium product that Hull is presenting. Love it
Coalescent is a Science Fiction Movie which where we are currently with ''high birds'' and steel.😈Yes it is a quaiity production.
Wonderful film fantastic product so proud to be a small part of the team!
I am from Iran and I love your hunting styles and I hope to be able to attend in one of those great hunting Events
Can we ever expect to see Hull coming to the US?
You'd think steel was some sort of rare metal with the price of the cartridges . Except it isn't ☹️
All well and good, they don't talk about the price, but of course these guys aren't paying for them!!!!!
As part of a days driven game shooting the price of the cartridge is all but irrelevant. The £ difference between steel and lead for a days shooting would be less than a round of beers afterwards
@@K80Ed 32g #4 standard on the pheasant and 34g #3 for duck then?
Not sure I’ll be making a full switch this season but will be definitely giving them a try. Great film too- cheers
@@K80Ed those Bismuth are £1500/1000 definitely relevant. 😂
@@danp6755 4s partridge and lowland phez, 3s decent pheasant and duck. Hope to have a larger option shot size wise in due course testing dependant
@@shanebutcher9158 that’s why steel is the main offering. Bismuth is a rare metal so obviously the cost is well up but there is a steel option to cover all bases so you don’t have to use Bismuth unless you want to. Plenty still choose to shoot it despite the cost
What is happening with small bore range.
I wish we could get hull in Canada.
Bismuth 3s on pheasant ? Any pictures of the biowad after being fired be interesting to see its performance.
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Nice jolly
Great film, but not one mention on price point.... the reason why people are not migrating to non-lead is simple, PRICE!
If Hull Cart. really want to push this new replacement for lead then they need to drop the price to match the lead counterpart (or lower), then they will see a SIGNIFICANT increase in sales.....SIMPLES
I've seen 12 and 20ga steel in the US, with current exchange rate, priced as low as £11-22 per 25 (before tax).
@@NWer-c5u defo.... if they would drop the price to initiate the conversion to lead they would see a much better turnover.
They are a business at the end of the day and need to operate at a profit. The £ that goes into the development of these products is incredible, and all has to be factored in. Combined with steel shot shortages and costs of everything going up sadly there is a limit to how cheap they can be.
The cartridge bill is the cheapest part of a day out game shooting by a long shot
It would be nice to be able to purchase Hull cartridges in Canada. Is there a reason they aren't available?
I am yet to grasp why the new trend of wildfowl loads (32 34Grm) loads are being used on normal partridge. What is that all about.
Do we now have to use large load steel cartridges in this application ?
Normally I would use Hull three Crown or Imperial Game.
It all seems a bit Macho and mucho??🤔
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It very much depends where you are shooting. Partridge over flat ground I happily shoot with 21g 7.5 through a 20g with no problem (lead) but wouldn’t dream of this on a higher bird shoot. The objective is a clean kill, so higher birds require bigger loads.
Steel is less dense than lead so you need proportionally bigger shot to hold the required energy, and with bigger shot sizes you will need a higher grammage to keep pattern density.
Pick the load for the correct application and no problem.
noticed James Bradley day wasn't shooting his normal gun. Pretty sure he shoots a DT11?
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@@K80Ed that's the one! 😅 shoots at my local ground a fair bit.
do the actual wads meet CE EN13432? as just because the material they are made from does is not necessarily the case that the item made from the material will.
Also is CE EN13432 an industrial composting standard so how long do the wads take to degrade in the English country side?
When will a steel 20 bore be produced?
How much do you pay your beaters ?
Good production. but the witch hunt on lead is nonsense
The annoying backing music screwed up the whole show. I could not watch it. How about a version without the music.
Why so expensive ? It’s mad really
Available in 16 bore?.
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Need to be a bank manager to use bismuth
Bank robber, I suppose there very similar.
Those Bismuth are only £1500/1000 😂😂 jokers!!
Bismuth is expensive, it's never going to be cheap because it's not an abundant element.
For willie wagglers who should stick to shooting clays.
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No puedo escribir nada porque siempre todo en ingles y como no se nada ni me interesa no digo nada simplemente miro el video nada mas
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I run a game shoot. These wads mimic plastic wads in appearance and do not look good on the ground or present a good impression of shooting irrespective of them being biodegradable. I will ask people not to use them on my shoot.
Not impressed with steel.
bunch of clowns
Ban ALL Blood Sports !!!!
I shoot clays .but will not shoot live stuff
Were you born ignorant or did you have to work at it?