NEW Rocna 55kg anchor installation & chain re-painting on our Nordhavn 43 trawler!
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- After being anchored in place for 36 hours, we are now set to get FREEDOM back on the water!
After several months spent mostly at anchor, we decided it was time to bite the bullet and invest in a new Rocna 55kg anchor. We have heard nothing but good reviews, and know several other boaters with this model who swear by its reliability and consistency holding bottom in all types of anchorages.
The installation was the easy part, but the re-painting of the anchor chain depth markers was the hardest of the project. Overall not too difficult, but time consuming watching the paint dry.
Enjoy!
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As much as I enjoy watching your voyages and the various destinations, I think what I appreciate the most is the dynamic of your relationship.
The teasing seems equal.
Would much rather watch this than the news. Have a blessed Sunday. Can’t wait for more.
I agree completely! A Fortress would be the way to go for something different. I just didn't want you to get rid of the big Bruce in the mean time because it's better than nothing if you lose the Rocna for some reason.
We are based out of SE Florida and spend a lot of time amchoring here and in the Bahamas, so mostly sandy bottoms. We use a genuine Bruce 150 kg (because a Rocna will not fit my pulpit) and a Fortress FX-125 as backup.
Fair winds and calm seas Captain Don & crew!
Hi, we mark the anchor chain a bit different, we paint one shackle for 25 feet, two shackles for 50 feet, 3 shackles for 75 feet, you get the idea. We only use one color of paint, makes the job easier. With regards to how you used only one D shackle before the 360 degree rotating swivel. You are better off using two D shackles. This way when the boat swings around the anchor, you never have a side load on the rotating pin, which can bend the part that turns and prevent it from rotating. I have seen this several times. I work for neptunus yachts for more than 30 years and several times i have seen a bend rotator. Also make sure you use a lock s/s wire for the D shackles.
Definitely the cleanest and most robust anchor locker ever. Hose that chain down on every retrieval and she'll last forever.
We enjoy your adventures!! just a real simple way of marking your chain is to use colored zip ties, leave the tails long, they are easy to see and go through the winch with no problem. Enjoy your new Rocna, we love ours!
On N55-24, and on our N47 prior, we installed Rocnas and never drug anchor, once set. As for marking the chain, I’ve given up on painting. The course sand of the Bahamas and Florida wear the paint off in a matter of weeks. We now use zip ties at 25 foot increments. They last several months and are super easy to replace as needed. The 25 foot lengths allow us to think in terms of number of links, eg, if we’re in 20 feet of water, we’ll put out “3,” plus the 25 foot snubber which leads from a bow eye at water level. Simple!
We’re already thinking that a non paint option is best. Thanks!
I too have found paint doesn't last long but zip ties seem to just get eaten by the windlass in short order. Plus I usually paint about a 2' segment so it's easy to spot as it goes over the pulpit compared to a few zip ties. I've yet to find a perfect solution other than a chain counter and even those I've had some issues with.
Hi Sean and Elizabeth there's a little product that you may love it's called corrosion block this stuff works and it lasts a long long time not cheap about $20 a spray can spray it on anything that could rust or does rust .it will not rust agin
I LOVE your videos. I know nothing about boats and find the anchor, and maintenance videos as interesting as the travel and adventuring videos. Keep ‘me coming. Thanks for explaining things so that a less-than-novice can understand.
Good thing your there Elizabeth, to make sure things are done right. Good job folks.
After over 75+ years of boating from FL, MA, CA, WA, and BC, that Rochna is the last anchor you'll ever need to buy. I slept very soundly whenever using our Rochna - not necessarily so with a CQR, Bruce, Danforth, etc.
That stretch by Mr. Sully was enough for everyone! Weeeeelp, back to work.
The "Blue Brush Delivery Montage" was outstanding...lol. Good video folks.
Lucky Shawn is a hands on kinda bloke n1
To answer your question my top tip for anchor chain painting is.... to not do it! Instead install a chain counter!
Excellent line of questioning “should we have just bought a new swivel”
Thanks for another great video! I never would have thought of foil and wax paper. Don't let the trolls get to you. Everyone I know who has a successful blog has trolls coming out of the woodwork. Keep up the great work! It is, by the way, nice to see a northwest-centered boating blog!
Tony & Susan here, Looking forward to your critique of the anchor down the rd.
You two so funny over tooth brush. That was such a good Idea to mark the chain lengths like that and it works. I like watching you both keep having fun and stay safe.
You'll love the Rocna in the NW. As you start anchoring further north, you find most people have 3-400 feet of floating line on a reel for stern ties. It's often the only way to keep an anchor set in a steep bottom close to shore. Next time you pull all the chain to paint it, you might consider swapping it end-for-end to get more life out of it.
I’ve seen people paint their anchor chain by placing the portion of chain that you wish to paint in a bag. Shoot the paint all over the chain inside of the bag. Then droop it over some 2x4’s laid on their edges to let it dry. The bag contains all of the spray so you don’t need to lay down as much drop cloth material. I’ve not tried it myself, but it seems like an interesting idea. Good luck.
Cleaning out the anchor locker, painting the chain, great now I have another task to do! Great video guys.
Seems like parchment paper would have been the only other thing left in the kitchen cupboard to have tried... Looking forward to the anchor test results!
Great choice on a Rocna, and what a great channel you have! Keep up the good work. You are fortunate enough to have a pulpit capable of two anchors, so do not get rid of that big Bruce. Hoist it up there as your secondary. BADASS!!!!
I'd probably go with something very different than the Rocna for a second anchor to give more options for if the first won't hold. Instead of something in the plow style, maybe a more of a danforth style that works well in soft bottoms? In my area we typically deal with mud and danforth (Guardian, Fortress, etc) types that hold based on sq footage of the fluke size work well and are lighter to handle. They won't do so well in rock or coral though. Having two very different styles ready to deploy would give more options should they find one won't set well.
If only we hadn’t sold it already, but we do have a small backup on board in case of an emergency.
When I did mine I used zip ties to mark it, seemed to work nicely, an no paint to miss with.
Good job, Shawn, looks very nice ...
We got the 55kg ROCNA Vulcan for our N5028 Les Voguer
I have gotten about 2 seasons on the paint. Same method as you, but not as cautious about masking. I put cardboard down to keep from painting dock. The first 100 feet is pretty bad after 2 seasons, the second hundred better, the 3rd good for another 2 years. I found white not to be a great choice. Now using blue at anchor and at 100 foot intervals, red at the 25’s and now green at 50 foot intervals. Spray chain with salt away as a clean up prior to paint. Great video.
Aluminum foil AND wax paper...you two make a great team. Nice job!
I really appreciate this video. Shows a small bit of the nuts and bolts of boat ownership. Not very sexy, but essential. Dragging anchor in the middle of the night brings a certain disquiet with it. Thumbs up!
Love the boat projects video especially when someone else is doing the boat project
You will LOVE this anchor! We have the Vulcan version. One and done. Haven’t been through small craft or gale at anchor but gusts to 30 no problem. Sleep soundly!
Nice video. Big boat, big anchor. We use a regular old Danforth anchor on our 25' CC. Lots of sticky mud down here in the deep south.
Changed my 30kg Bruce out to a Rocna Vulcan 33kg.......day and night....love it!
How has the setting and resetting been
How has the setting and resetting been
I use ultra anchor . Very happy with it , it sets in very quickly , digs in in weed very well . If the boat moves aroud it re-digs immediately . Recommend
I could see you guys doing the Great Loop.....you’d probably need to truck the boat to Fairhope Alabama to begin the loop counterclockwise there in the late fall so that you could be in the Trent Severn Waterway and Great Lakes by the following summer.
Everyone takes the loop at a different pace. They have to plan how long they want to do it.
Loved the video! We used to have a galvanized Danforth-style anchor on Gusto, our 79 Mainship 1. All steel starts to rust eventually and this anchor was leaving a lot of stains on the deck, so we replaced it with a Fortress anchor which is made of an aluminum allow. They're not cheap, but nice thing about them is they don't rust. They are also much lighter, which is nice since Gusto does not have an anchor winch.
This project actually looks fun and rewarding.
Learned something today. Had to shake the cobwebs out of my head on how we did it in the Navy. The colors do help identifying how much chain is let out. Great videos Thanks
I love how you show the reality of how a project can go. I like your simple approach to marking the length of the chain. I had to chuckle thinking, way back when, I helped my dad mark his 350' of chain on his GB36 that was moored at Shilshole. We laid out the chain just like you did. Similar experience with what "drop cloth" to use under the chain while spraying. Wax paper or a fabric drop cloth work well. Just be sure to lay plastic on the dock, in case any paint soaks through.
Rub Your Ball With Grease (Red, Yellow, blue, White, green). Easy Way to remember 🤟
Perhaps consider painting the crown of the anchor so that you can easily spot it when you dive to inspect its setting ( yellow works well ). Grey on Greg rock or sand is tough to find sometimes. Cheers guys __/))
Can't believe that was so enjoyable to watch! Watched the entire video. Great job guys.
Thanks for the video. Very instructive. You like what you do and you convey it with passion.
Hey! I remembered this. I had them on my boats, (Go2Marine)
Chain Markers, Nylon, Come in Red White, Blue, Green, & Yellow. Range from $14.00 to $17.50 for a pack of 4 or more. "No more painting!", and every time you retrieve & wash the chain, your cleaning them too. Check them out. Just FYI to the Captain.
You guys are great! Always learn something from your experiences watching the videos. Please...keep ‘em coming! Cheers :)
Looking good Elizabeth!
Sean is doing a very incredible job as alway,s on the freedom thank you guys I appreciate the videos.
Great video lots of information, thanks. Be well, stay safe.
Nicely done...always enjoy the vessel maintenance...remain safe.
Nicely done... it's probably not feasible for you guys, but plywood underneath the chain would stop it from sticking and might allow better penetration of the paint. Keep creating awesome content, you guys rock!
Nice and clean and the Rocna is gonna be a huge improvement. We got rid of our old Delta plow and put a Vulcan on last summer. When that thing sets...you KNOW it. I sleep so much better now. Love that your boat has as Portuguese bridge, too.
Good job Shawn and Elizabeth. Given your space to work a tarp or paint drop cloth would be the another choice for dock protection, I worked in shipyards. Usually they lay the chain out on the dry dock deck with a tarp. Or send it to the paint shop and send it through a paint booth hanging on hooks.
Nice Teamwork too btw 👍🏻
Over The Clouds I think her name is Elizabeth
Okay Hill Your right! Thank god she’s not my lady I’d never hear the end of it. Sorry! I’ll fix it.
Over The Clouds @ The very least you would need to buy a really really comfortable couch to sleep on 🙋♂️🖖👏😷🇳🇴🇬🇧=🇺🇸⛵️
Life revolves around anchoring somewhere!
I sew on 1/4” nylon webbing flags in a color pattern like one red at 25’, two reds at 50’, three at 75’, etc switching to a new color for each 100. The flags go through the gypsy, are easy to see, and last years. Red, white, blue is easy to remember and gets to 300’.
Who knew watching paint dry could so entertaining :) Keep up the fine work you guys! Although I am going to miss your visit to Tofino this year.
R.G. Bronson we are going to miss Tofino and BC too 😥
I've done a lot of research on anchors, seems to be the Rocna that sets the best followed by the Mantis. Rocna all the way for me.
I love watching yalls videos I always learn something new thank you for sharing
Good vid ya'll, great job, anchor and chain looks great.
Hey, we resemble that project! LOL Love the toothbrush approach. 😂😂
If you use a large cardboard box or two then the chain hangs in the air and the box catches overspray. Easy-peasy:)
Hey Guys love your boat and the videos. Just a suggestion as I did a lot of painting over the years. The next time try a painters tarp with a plastic backing to lay under the chain. The canvas may be more forgiving when trying to remove the chain and the plastic on the underside will ensure no bleed through. Just a thought. Good Luck God Bless and happy sailing. And please keep those videos coming.
Interesting comments I think every anchor has its benefits depending on multiple factors like bottom consistency, grass and weed, rock (size of rock will affect things) chain/rode scope, I carry a couple different kinds. After anchoring for 30 years the one constant I have seen is ANY anchor will drag or not reset. The Excel and Rocna seem to be the best but... Don’t worry about the Diet Coke my habit is diet Mountain Dew!
Said it perfectly.
Painting a chain is never fun, but it's probably easier to do when you need to get hauled out for something else. Shipyards usually have some scaffolding racks you can use to hang the chain so you can get all sides at once and the paint doesn't stick to anything. I used rust oleum primer and their industrial paint which was supposed to be the best. It was applied to new chain and even with all that it is already flaking off and doesn't look very good. I think I'll just stick with my chain counter.
i have a vulcan 4kg and it works awesome. try a double grapnel with rocna for rocks and mud. the rocnas support doubles. i use gorilla tape on mine instead of paint. dont use swivels with rocnas. swivels work against resets. the little hole in the front mounts the grapnel and chain.
Great job on the chain
I got a rocna 33kg on my westerly oceanlord uk yacht it is well overstated but it really is vital on the west coast of scotland in gales they are good anchors hope you find same👍
Looks fantastic!!!
I did the same change years ago. The Rocna is awesome! I’m sure you are loving it. I never got a hat though. LOL.
Yes we love it, so far we’ve held like a champ every time! And about the hat, our boat neighbor did some work with Rocna and had an extra one for marketing purposes 👍
I'd look to use thick paint that will form a thick skin on the links. Spray paint only coats the links with a thin layer of paint. Try laying the chain links between wooden trestles with a tarp under the trestles. It also gives 360 degree drying.
Use coloured cable ties instead of paint. They will easily fit through rollers and such and are very visible. Use several at each 50ft, e.g. 8 or 10. Hope that makes sense! Way better than getting paint everywhere too :)
I've found they get chewed up by the windlass. Maybe they last longer on a vertical vs a horizontal gypsy?
Hi guys might be easier next time if you can find the space to hang the chain in sections process might be longer slightly but would be alot less hassle love the vid guys keep them coming stay safe
Although a tooth brush can be used to clean all the chain links, a more thorough job can be accomplished with a tooth pick, then all carefully flossed.
Hi, nice job painting your chain. I never was so diligent, so when I installed a Maxwell RC-12 anchor winch a couple of years ago I also installed a Maxwell Auto Anchor 560 V2 counter The counter works great. I recently ran all 600 feet of my chain out to clean the chain locker & fresh water wash the chain and the counter showed 606 feet. So, did they sell me 606 feet of chain? Or is the counter off by 6 feet? (1%) I will never know!
I think all of the Maxwell vertical winches are drilled for the magnetic sensor, making retrofitting the counter relatively easy. I sure like having the readout in the pilot house way better than trying remember a paint scheme.
Have you thought about using something like jack stands to keep it all suspended while you paint?
After this time yes, or even protected dock carts we’ve seen work well.
That's right I was watching "What yacht to do" and they were doing it in cardboard boxes.
Hi Folks, Great video that could be called “One of the many things you have to do on a periodic basis when cruising full time”, for the viewers learning from you about the cruising life. You probably did a ton of research on which anchor to buy but for the cruising dreamers here’s a few more thoughts. 1. Practical Sailor Magazine used to recommend the Rocna and the Spade. After some bad experiences from users of the Rocna with the roll bar getting caught in rocks, they recommend only the Spade. And, Rocna brought out the Vulcan to address this problem AND, as they claim, to have an anchor for boats that did not accommodate the roll bar on their bow roller configuration. Whatever...The user community has found the Rocna, Spade, Ultra, and Mantus(sp?) ALL to be very dependable and superior to the old favorites Bruce and CQR that are commonly being replaced now. The Rocna got hot in the Nordhavn Owners world and is the most popular for good reason, it works. It’s just not the only brand that works. 2. Swivels are noir without controversy. A NOG Expert Advisor states that the number one source of ground tackle failure that he has seen is the swivel. It’s a much more complicated (and expensive) solution to a problem (anchor coming out of water misaligned with the bow roller) that either a) doesn’t happen often at all, or b) is easily corrected when it happens. 3. There are as many paint schemes as anchor choice opinions. Here’s a simple one recommended to me: RED = 100’, WHITE = 200’, BLUE = 300’, RED=400’ (the end). Guessing at 50’ increments in between the colors is “good enough” for most anchoring situations, or just let out more to be on the safe side. 4. Another paint method. Get a 5 gallon plastic bucket. Spray the chain as you feed the chain into the bucket. Spray a bunch more paint on the chain as it sits in the bottom of the bucket. Let it dry. Lift chain out and spray it as you drop it back in bucket and repeat as many times as you need. Dry in bucket overnight. Then, repeat with the next color the next day or get more buckets to do it all on one day. Saves using and throwing away all that plastic and alu foil.
As with many things on cruising boats there is no one-best-way and there is an over abundance of free advice! Safe Travels.
Eric Bescoby hey Eric and thanks for the tips!
Good Job!
We use silk ribbons to mark our anchor rode. Super easy to install, replace, and much more environmentally friendly :) DM me on Instagram if you want details, @benzbrad.
We have those too (and paint!)
What other brand of anchors did you consider if any? Mantus makes an incredible product as well.
Michael Samuel Rocna was really the only serious candidate because we’ve heard from tons of folks that this is hands down the most reliable.
Nice job guys.
Love your videos, thank you.
Another well-done and informative video. Good job!
Absolutely love you guys and your vlog.
Woodrow Winters that’s awesome! We love you too ❤️😁⚓️
Nice Job, no easy way to do that job. I think it came out pretty damn good. GREAT ANCHOR, GREAT BOAT‼️👍👍🛥⛴. Vinny🇺🇸
Hello from Cincy! Happy 4th, hope you’re both well and safe! Are you going to get another Labrador?
Happy 4th to you as well! We probably won’t get another lab but are looking for a little sister for Sully (another 10 pounder).
Hey, Elizabeth and Shawn, I saw your video again and I'm surprised that after the big job of pulling out the whole chain, changing the anchor, painting the chain and cleaning the anchor shaft, you didn't paint the anchor shaft. Why? You had it so easy!
You have opened up the devil's cauldron discussing what anchor you purchased. If you hang out in forums such as the trawler's forum, you quickly learn that asking what anchor to purchase or why you bought what you bought is akin to Republicans and Democrats discussing gun control. I first tried to purchase a Rocna anchor in 2004 but they were made in Australia back then and getting one into Canada was difficult. I actually emailed the builder, blanked out on his name, and suggested he have part of the anchor put together in North American, thus garnishing the coveted "assembled in America" designation. I just googled and they are manufactured in China but quality control is done through the now current head office in Vancouver. Swivels: the stand on swivels seems to be slowly changing but I was surprised when I just went to the Rocna site, they now discussing adding a swivel, their original stand was - don't use one. Drew Frye published a book in 2018 that most have never heard of called "Rigging Modern Anchors." In this book, his stand on swivels is against them: "DITCH THE SWIVEL After fixing this on three boats .., I felt I must share something so plainly obvious that it is commonly overlooked.... The anchor is coming up backwards most of the time, and twisting it around to come over the roller is a battle. The easy, or at least obvious solution, is to add a swivel: it don't solve the backwards anchor problem, it only makes rotating the anchor on the the roller easier. ,,, If the wind or tide created a twist in the anchor chain, it will untwist as soon as it clears the bottom because it can't turn in the windlass. In fact, the only way a twist can remain between the anchor and the windlass is if you install a swivel and the swivel has allowed a rotation...... If you can't resist the urge to install a swivel, at the very least include a shackle between the swivel and the anchor." Full disclosure: I have a Rocna and a swivel without a shackle, so far no problems. I almost forgot to add, the way to paint your chain is go dumpster diving for a box roughly the size of one a lawn mower would come in. Then put notches in either side so that the chain can set in with out sliding into the box. You should be able to get a couple of rows of chain in the box, hung up side to side. You then cover with plastic the chain not to be painted and spray paint the area desired. Then just leave the chain to dry while hanging in the box. Now there is no surface to stick to any other surface.
I believe the Bruce anchor is more sand and mud. Does one more scope on glacial till bottoms?
Bruce anchors set well but don't hold very well. They are good for a short stay but for over nighting, I would not want a bruce.
Nice vid
Love all your videos, very informative and really appreciate the technical aspects and products reviews as well 👍🏻. What anchor bridle system do you use? Thanks!
I had Danny the Danforth, with an “Armstrong “ windlass...
A cheap tarp on the dock might do the trick next time.
I watched a sailboat vid. on youtube and the poster whose name eludes me now put colored spongy-rubbery pieces in the chain-link (designed for that purpose ) and he was claiming that was far better than paint which didn't last.Might have been a "Sailing Fairisle "vid.but not sure on the name.
We’ve heard of those chain pieces and might have to go that route next!
Why not an Ultra Anchor ? As for me and my nautical house we will do what Tony Fleming does ! Great video as always ! Give mr Sully a stack too. Anchor swivel yes ? Would a small pressure washer be nice to have ? Excellent explanation and painting.
Mr. Fleming is certainly a respectable source of information and I do like the Ultra, but I haven't used it myself. I have used the Rocna (in the PNW no less, so MV Freedom's home waters) and I've had great luck with it. I'm sure the Ultra would be a good choice but if I'm buying tomorrow it's a Rocna. I don't think I've ever heard anybody speak poorly of it.
I love my Ultra. I have the 45kg on my Sirena 58
Always vacuum the chain locker before you washdown.
We wonder how many folks would have cranked up their engines just to move up into the slip... I mean, hey that boat weighs as much as a herd of elephants.... and yet you two just gave her a tug on the rope and away she went... I know, what does a boat weigh? its anchor.... LoL be safe, Tim and Cat
Tim Harrison 32 tons!
interesting video thank you for sharing
That’s a nice anchor it should do well for you. Have you heard about MV Aurora 120 I guess that boat has been a real nightmare with needing millions of dollars worth of refit and repairs. I saw scathing review of the work they did building the boat in China. 🙋♂️🖖👏😷🇳🇴🇬🇧=🇺🇸⛵️
Yes we know about Aurora and its past, but it seems to be enjoying a good life on the water these days according to IG 😉
MV Freedom that’s good because that is such a beautiful boat it was a shame to see the shotty workmanship and materials and things.
There are two sides to that story. I trust the Nordhavn builders, Pacific Asia Enterprises, side.
Eric Bescoby PAE was is the problem for MV Aurora. When you spend 13 1/2 million dollars you should expect better quality. I’m sure it hasn’t been that way on every boat MV freedom turned out really good and others.
Good choice. I was wondering what size chain you are using?
Derick Clack it’s 3/8” chain 👍
I thought nordhavn had cable counters....? It's nice to have visual markings....(Canadian Navy we do shackles which is 90 feet) but it's much nicer to sit in the pilot house and have a cable counter doing it in feet.....😁
Oh my, are we really that way? Now saying I Micky Moused it, is rat racist and Jerry rigged is German racist? This stuff is getting out of hand. Love your vids and yes I am jealous that boat is just awesome. Take care and keep up the good work.