Whenever I hear of a young person losing their lives, I just feel so heartbroken. Yes there are very good kids out there, unfortunately some very badly raised ones also making horrible life changing choices.
It was not because of the chain, they were part of a gang that would just randomly assault people, they just happened to take the chain after the assault in this instance.
@johnwick1883 some do. Maybe not all. Maybe not even most. But out of the few billions I'd say atleast a few really believe and live and follow the teachings.
parents let the schools raise their children the problem is the laws and tools arent there for the school to raise them well. I'm still saying the parents need to raise their kids but they arent and the schools cant.
birds of a feather flock together. Im sure they were potheads, drug addicts and majority of these boys have single moms with no male dominance in the home
@@GodhandPhemto gangster can be from rich families too I see, hear and read it all the time. In fact they are among the educated and easy access to get the information they need so that they build their own little empire of drugs and illegal activities.
@jasonvoorhees5640 his friend was selling drugs got jumped he try to help his druggy friend....dont take my word i might be wrong but that doesnt mean he deserve to get killed.
those "kids" that were evolved need to be tried as adults. This is what's wrong with our society, if they want to act big and grown they can get treated big and grown. Good job Justice System.
@jasonvoorhees5640 because they did an adult act..committed murder. They’re not 5yrs old, they’re literally 1yr away from being an adult so they should know better !!!
Let's not forget that the Town of Gilbert was equally culpable for Preston's death. Gilbert PD knew about the strings of violent incidents prior to his murder and either chose to do nothing or were totally incompetent in not connecting the incidents. It wasn't until an independent journalist put it all out there and the resulting public backlash that they finally started to care. Disgraceful.
Wolf pack descended upon a kid and beat him to death, their parents must be so proud to have raised "such fine young men." I hope they're all convicted and sent to prison. My condolences to the family of Preston Lord.
@jasonvoorhees5640 felony murder is basically when you are doing a *dangerous* crime, like assault, robbery (its usually robbery), whatever.. and then *someone dies* and you might *not* have necessarily *planned it* nor been *directly involved, but you're still guilty of their death... A drives B to a house thinking they're doing a robbery, B murders the homeowner, A and B both just did a murder.* A and B break into a building and when they break a window an AC unit falls on someone's head and it killed them, A and B just did a murder. A and B beat this guy up in the street and leave him there and he gets run over by a car that couldn't see him, and he dies from the car injuries, again, A and B just did a murder. it could definitely be implemented here, because beating up Preston was the felony and anyone there regardless of how much damage they actually inflicted could be charged like that. what's so good about this rule is that it counts as 1st degree murder, regardless of intention, much harsher than manslaughter.
Who cares if he turned himself in. Kids think they are adults put them in prison with adults. The parents need to be held accountable for their kids actions with jail, prison and restitution.
The parents of these kids also need to be charged with the same crime. When parents across America see this happening, then perhaps they'll start taking care of business at home.
Most of these kids are being tried as adults. I'm sorry but once your 17 and older you are an adult and you can't go blindly blaming the parents. They made their bed that they now get to lie in.
The way The attorney said the kid turned himself in, 🙄like it was such a good thing, he turned himself in after a warrant was issued,not when they found out Preston died, not before witnesses were tampered with. He turned himself in so his parents house wasn’t destroyed
Standing with his feet spread, chest out, and his hands in his pockets. Complete "gangstar" defiance. I wonder how long that'll hold up in big-boy prison. Hope his parents keep him in lots of commissary...
Zero remorse! In the 70's they would have called them latch key kids. It meant the parents weren't around for their kids after school and they became hoodlums. Do parents these days just let their kids run all over doing whatever they want? I think these parents need to be looked at to see if they knew what these kids were doing. And did they turn a blind eye?
I think you need to look up what defines a latch key kid. Not all of them were hoodlums, many like every kid in my neighborhood had two parents that worked. At my house if we got home from school and it had or was snowing you cleared the walk and drive. Then you would do your normal chores.
the 20 year old has to be the leader, give him the maximum. I remember when i was in highschool, this 20 year old that already graduated would come to our hang out at our spot almost everyday during lunch. I always thought at the time, what a f’n loser lol. but the few guys that were my age looked up to him. So there is definitely a huge influence that should be considered.
you'd be surprised a lot of times these younger guys are more hotheaded and initiate this sort of thing. I've seen it a million times when the older guys get put away for sum the younger ones got into
Poor Little Billy turned himself in...... NO he hid like a Coward hoping to get away with it until he was Caught. All of these Animals should go to Jail for life. The minute anyone of them gets out, we are simply prey. Jackles
This Arizona and the community came together, demanded and pressured. Stupid bullies abused their entitlement against the community until Preston’s death.
I'm heavily for Criminal Defense and criminal justice reform but in this particular case i hope justice is truly served to the most culpable parties in this crime. I don't know all the facts and i must keep and open mind but that doesn't take away the anger i feel after what happened to Preston Lord. Bullying, both physical and verbal is s very serious problem in this country and we are not doing enough to solve that problem.
@@blueabattoir it's well known murder is unacceptable for society's standards. The bullying issue in this particular case led to death. Bullying is a very serious issue that needs national attention.
Animals!!! Who are raising these kids? I remember when kids just fought and went home. Now they beat people in mobs like that's the thing to do. Parents need to be held accountable for raising these animals
"kids just fought and went home" that's the problem you freaks started having kids and never acknowledge that fighting is a bad thing that can lead to death.
Do you even know what a Hate Crime is? 5 out of the 7 are 100% white and the other 2 are half white..... lmfao so desperate to try and cry hate crime, pathetic.
@marysmith7596 0 seconds ago Our only HOPE is JESUS CHRIST who many have rejected in this DARK world. PLEASE REPENT, GET SAVED and LIVE for JESUS CHRIST this is happening a lot people are destroying and KILLING. Read the BIBLE we are in the LAST DAYS and satan and his demons roam this earth seeking whom he may devour and many people will be a prey because they have rejected the SAVING GRACE OF JESUS CHRIST BECAUSE THEY ENOY LIVING IN SIN AND LEADING LIFESTYLES THAT ARE NOT PLEASING TO GOD/JESUS CHRIST. IF YOU SAVED YOU GO TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR LAST BREATH ON THIS EARTH BUT IF YOU NOT SAVED YOU WILL GO TO HELL.
So what he turn himself in,too beat someone too death over a piece of jewelry. Big men gang up on one person. And then run like cowards.Why didn't he come forward sooner even if he was involved. He knew they was looking at who had help do this.He thought he got away with it. It does not matter if they were juveniles at the time ,they done a mans crime try them as adults.Let them do real time. They are so tough.
It’s scary especially if you live in only 30 minutes for that place it disgusts me that the Gilbert goons did this. It was a 10 dollar gold chain we know that the Gilbert goons were just there to fight.
William Hines and Treston Billey both look like buff football linebackers. Take a look at Preston Lord's photo. It wouldn't take much to beat him to death. Add the others to that fight and Preston didn't stand a chance. I suspect this isn't the first time he was bullied.
They had even released a rap song about doing this to this young man !!!!!! It was all over Snapchat ! They have no guilt and thought they would get away with it!
thank God no cells phone camera in the 80s I would be in prison even up to this point in my life at age 51 from all the beatings I unleash on bullies be careful who you mess with someone may look like a punk, but you will be supersized word of wisdom!
Thanks for providing such “valuable insight“ to the UA-cam community. I’ve not heard such profound views since talking to my neighbor Who is required to ride the short bus. 🤤
It's ridiculous when punk kids are beating up and killing other kids for relatively low value items this time it's a gold chain or something that look like one used to be tennis shoes or a coat
The kids who gave Preston CPR and brought him back is a silver lining in all of this garbage. Good people still exist
Whenever I hear of a young person losing their lives, I just feel so heartbroken. Yes there are very good kids out there, unfortunately some very badly raised ones also making horrible life changing choices.
Add extortion charges to those who threatened witnesses.
Murder because of a stupid gold chain....
Not going to say they were just waiting to beat someone to death ,but they sure did take advantage of the opportunity when it arose.
Wealth Revenge..deadly sort ...
@@finddeniroapparently these kids all came from well to do families. I think they were just trying to emulate their heroes.
It was not because of the chain, they were part of a gang that would just randomly assault people, they just happened to take the chain after the assault in this instance.
I bet it was from amazon for $20
Every single one of those young MEN just signed their first class ticket to prison!
And hopefully a lot of unwanted sexual experiences in prison.
@@Lovelaughter790 lol. O please! Since when do Christians care about what's in their Bible?
@johnwick1883 some do. Maybe not all. Maybe not even most. But out of the few billions I'd say atleast a few really believe and live and follow the teachings.
@@discjunky1266Less intelligent people need an official book to tell them not to commit crimes. It's a fear thing for dum-dums
@@discjunky1266 Tell that to the Christians that say that loot and murder WITHOUT the Bible telling them not too! Look it up coward.
7 families and not one of them could raise a decent young man.
parents let the schools raise their children the problem is the laws and tools arent there for the school to raise them well. I'm still saying the parents need to raise their kids but they arent and the schools cant.
You are speaking on the greater issue here, weak familiy values
Perfectly said !
birds of a feather flock together. Im sure they were potheads, drug addicts and majority of these boys have single moms with no male dominance in the home
It's not always the parents fault, let's be real here.
Gangsters All dressed up in nice clothes they’d never ever wear otherwise won’t fool anybody .
Actually their families are VERY rich, look it up.
@@GodhandPhemto gangster can be from rich families too I see, hear and read it all the time. In fact they are among the educated and easy access to get the information they need so that they build their own little empire of drugs and illegal activities.
Exactly. The parents dedicated themselves more to making money than raising decent human beings.
@jasonvoorhees5640Because Free chain, rich people steal all the time. Plus they get the benefit of humiliating their victim.
Gangsters? Nah, this is what half of our children have learned to become.
Throw away the key!
All this over a freaking gold chain. What a world, eh?
Drugs..
Drugs and wannabe thugs. I bet most cry at night knowing their life is over.
@@ChiefsWin316 Don't forget the booty bandits..
My heart aches for Preston’s family and friends. He was just trying to help a friend.😢justice for Preston!🙏🏻💔
@jasonvoorhees5640 his friend was selling drugs got jumped he try to help his druggy friend....dont take my word i might be wrong but that doesnt mean he deserve to get killed.
This Poor young man. I'm sorry for your loss. My condolences to his family and friends. 🙏🙏🙏
those "kids" that were evolved need to be tried as adults. This is what's wrong with our society, if they want to act big and grown they can get treated big and grown. Good job Justice System.
@jasonvoorhees5640 because they did an adult act..committed murder. They’re not 5yrs old, they’re literally 1yr away from being an adult so they should know better !!!
Let's not forget that the Town of Gilbert was equally culpable for Preston's death. Gilbert PD knew about the strings of violent incidents prior to his murder and either chose to do nothing or were totally incompetent in not connecting the incidents. It wasn't until an independent journalist put it all out there and the resulting public backlash that they finally started to care. Disgraceful.
I agree.
Agree
bullies
Cowards
Murderers! Not bullies.
Enjoy your stay and don’t forget to turn off the lights😂😂😂
A gang is a gang
yep people think it is like hollywoond with colors but this is what a gang looks like
Wolf pack descended upon a kid and beat him to death, their parents must be so proud to have raised "such fine young men." I hope they're all convicted and sent to prison. My condolences to the family of Preston Lord.
Kids that act bad are likely to have divorce parents and the mom having full custody
parents need to charged, like the shooters parents, the mom is already in jail and the dad is next
@goji059 you can't just blindly blame the parents, the parents didn't give them guns to go out and kill people like the kid shooters parents did.
They will be popular young prisoners...
They all look a bit light in the loafers!
So he very nobly surrendered with his defense atty after he was indicted for murder. LOL. This case begs for invoking the felony murder rule.
I think they’re charged with 1st degree because it’s felony murder (during the commission of another felony …kidnapping and robbery)
@jasonvoorhees5640 felony murder is basically when you are doing a *dangerous* crime, like assault, robbery (its usually robbery), whatever.. and then *someone dies* and you might *not* have necessarily *planned it* nor been *directly involved, but you're still guilty of their death... A drives B to a house thinking they're doing a robbery, B murders the homeowner, A and B both just did a murder.* A and B break into a building and when they break a window an AC unit falls on someone's head and it killed them, A and B just did a murder. A and B beat this guy up in the street and leave him there and he gets run over by a car that couldn't see him, and he dies from the car injuries, again, A and B just did a murder. it could definitely be implemented here, because beating up Preston was the felony and anyone there regardless of how much damage they actually inflicted could be charged like that. what's so good about this rule is that it counts as 1st degree murder, regardless of intention, much harsher than manslaughter.
Individual urns would keep them separated and unable to talk to one another...
d*mn right
Who cares if he turned himself in. Kids think they are adults put them in prison with adults. The parents need to be held accountable for their kids actions with jail, prison and restitution.
Evil people
Hopefully these thugs will be locked up for a long time. Justice for Preston. Prayers for Preston’s family and friends. So horrible.
he is a psychopath for beating anything alive to death. He needs to be locked away, never to be seen again.
@jasonvoorhees5640it was all of them, pack mentality, wannabe gangsters, they gonna get some cold hard lessons soon enough in prison. Sad all around.
@jasonvoorhees5640 they beat him because he was gonna record the gang jumping another person, so they turned on him.
@jasonvoorhees5640 you are in gang mindset…take it back to the civilian mindset and that’s where we are. Preston did not gang bang.
@jasonvoorhees5640no not all 7 attacked Preston
@jasonvoorhees5640 I’m just trying to set the record straight that Taylor is innocent in all this.
they should be in prison for those haircuts
😂
They'll be assured a long line of boyfriends.
georgeworthmore
I hear it’s all the rage for prison brides.
Taylor Sherman def gonna make a nice female in prison lol. Hope he can grow some facial hair.
The parents of these kids also need to be charged with the same crime. When parents across America see this happening, then perhaps they'll start taking care of business at home.
Most of these kids are being tried as adults. I'm sorry but once your 17 and older you are an adult and you can't go blindly blaming the parents. They made their bed that they now get to lie in.
The Goons
The way The attorney said the kid turned himself in, 🙄like it was such a good thing, he turned himself in after a warrant was issued,not when they found out Preston died, not before witnesses were tampered with. He turned himself in so his parents house wasn’t destroyed
Exactly
MCSO deputy played Valet, WTF!?
0:20 More like his lawyer ( Daddy paid for ) told him he could have a warrant out for his arrest if he doesn't surrender immediately.
Kid wore his prom suit.
Standing with his feet spread, chest out, and his hands in his pockets. Complete "gangstar" defiance. I wonder how long that'll hold up in big-boy prison. Hope his parents keep him in lots of commissary...
🤣
So sad this happened to Preston 😢
@jasonvoorhees5640he wasn't and didn't even know of these gangsters until that night. Wrong place, wrong time, wrong party.
@jasonvoorhees5640 I've studied this case alot, he didn't know the perps.
@jasonvoorhees5640 ironic how they were mad about snitching and now they'll spend life in jail cuz of it
@jasonvoorhees5640 maybe lol idk anybody involved but its funny how bad they messed their lives up over nothing
Zero remorse! In the 70's they would have called them latch key kids. It meant the parents weren't around for their kids after school and they became hoodlums. Do parents these days just let their kids run all over doing whatever they want? I think these parents need to be looked at to see if they knew what these kids were doing. And did they turn a blind eye?
Of course they did. You see all the materialist nonsense.
Parents need to be sued.
I think you need to look up what defines a latch key kid. Not all of them were hoodlums, many like every kid in my neighborhood had two parents that worked. At my house if we got home from school and it had or was snowing you cleared the walk and drive. Then you would do your normal chores.
That is NOT what latch key kid means. Holy fuck, use Google before looking so stupid.
Yeah, just some idiot kid talking out her ass, like most of them. @@ronbrock6153
the 20 year old has to be the leader, give him the maximum. I remember when i was in highschool, this 20 year old that already graduated would come to our hang out at our spot almost everyday during lunch. I always thought at the time, what a f’n loser lol. but the few guys that were my age looked up to him. So there is definitely a huge influence that should be considered.
yea I remember they came during lunch to jump me but they didnt because they realize i would snitch on them like dam right I would go get a job
you'd be surprised a lot of times these younger guys are more hotheaded and initiate this sort of thing. I've seen it a million times when the older guys get put away for sum the younger ones got into
Poor Little Billy turned himself in...... NO he hid like a Coward hoping to get away with it until he was Caught. All of these Animals should go to Jail for life. The minute anyone of them gets out, we are simply prey. Jackles
Keep up the great coverage until Preston Lord gets Justice!
Rancho high Las Vegas 16-1 minority vs Caucasian and not one was charged with a hate crime. The white teen died.
This Arizona and the community came together, demanded and pressured. Stupid bullies abused their entitlement against the community until Preston’s death.
I was racially motivated too.
Half of the suspects in this case were white lmao. Are you stupid?
Minority? These dudes look Caucasian. This is YT on yt crime 😂
they look white to me what in the blue hell you talking about?
No excuses those are very dangerous young man
Only dangerous if they act as a group feeding off each others hate. Otherwise, they are nothing but roly-poly teenage cowards.
Taylor isn’t dangerous in the slightest that is crazy! He didn’t attack Preston.
They all have the psychopath stare.
Taylor definitely doesn’t have that stare.
You can have anyone stabbed in prison for 2 bags of coffee……..
FBI this one
@@dataphoenix8004 bot comment
Dominic looks like something from the Adam's family
Is there death penalty in Arizona?
Are the whole gang going to jail?
My deceased brother told me weyy back growing up in the 60s never b a follower never
This is so horrible
I'm heavily for Criminal Defense and criminal justice reform but in this particular case i hope justice is truly served to the most culpable parties in this crime. I don't know all the facts and i must keep and open mind but that doesn't take away the anger i feel after what happened to Preston Lord. Bullying, both physical and verbal is s very serious problem in this country and we are not doing enough to solve that problem.
Murder is also a problem.
@@blueabattoir it's well known murder is unacceptable for society's standards. The bullying issue in this particular case led to death. Bullying is a very serious issue that needs national attention.
@@Sub-Zero-392I agree.
Animals!!! Who are raising these kids? I remember when kids just fought and went home. Now they beat people in mobs like that's the thing to do. Parents need to be held accountable for raising these animals
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"kids just fought and went home" that's the problem you freaks started having kids and never acknowledge that fighting is a bad thing that can lead to death.
Some were raised very well with loving parents and good morals! Don’t be so quick to judge.
They killed a teen over a gold chain?😡
How about a hate crime charge?
Do you even know what a Hate Crime is? 5 out of the 7 are 100% white and the other 2 are half white..... lmfao so desperate to try and cry hate crime, pathetic.
How is it a hate crime when 5 of the 7 perps are white?? 🤦♂️
Ugh half the kids are white though.
What is wrong with people?
@marysmith7596
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Our only HOPE is JESUS CHRIST who many have rejected in this DARK world. PLEASE REPENT, GET SAVED and LIVE for JESUS CHRIST this is happening a lot people are destroying and KILLING. Read the BIBLE we are in the LAST DAYS and satan and his demons roam this earth seeking whom he may devour and many people will be a prey because they have rejected the SAVING GRACE OF JESUS CHRIST BECAUSE THEY ENOY LIVING IN SIN AND LEADING LIFESTYLES THAT ARE NOT PLEASING TO GOD/JESUS CHRIST. IF YOU SAVED YOU GO TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR LAST BREATH ON THIS EARTH BUT IF YOU NOT SAVED YOU WILL GO TO HELL.
Wheres the men fighting for this boys justice i just see women suport. I hope that boys family gets justice
Lord, Pray for these Individuals
REALITY CHECK BOYS 😂
Does he want an award?
Wow, this case is tragic. Their life will be taken for the life they took. Prayers to Lord's family.
If you can’t do the time… don’t do the crime
MCSO Valet his parents car at the court! THAT'S WHY this took so long, it's the Parents.
What the hell. God bless him
thank God these people are behind bars
Justice for Preston Lord.
disgusting. Over a gold chain.
God bless those kids that gave him CPR. All 7 of them need to be in prison for a long long time. Why did this have to happen? It shouldn’t have
"detail what led up to..."?
It’s sad the DA, prosecutors and Judge will fail the victim and either let these murderers off or just give them probation.
you should see DUI victims the murder only gets 6 to 10 years.
If this was the opposite it would be on CNN and MSNBC 24/7 And the trail would be televised
Why aren't Meisner and Renner pictured too??
This is disgusting!!
The aggravated robbery bunch will snitch!
These young fellas won't have to worry, there will be many inmates who WILL have their back.
What a mess.
This society is only going to get worse!
Thank God im moving to Japan this year.
I'm never looking back .
😂😂😅🤣 You will be here this time next year 😅😅😅😅
@@LeRoy-wb7vu I'm gone. One way plane ticket. But, you can enjoy your life here.
@cristianhcm1914 Sure you are. 😂🤣😅🤣 Probably don't even have a job 😂🤣🤣. Thing you don't understand is America runs Japan too. 😂😂😅😅🤣
@@LeRoy-wb7vu My goodness. Listen to yourself.
@LeRoy-wb7vu Good luck buddy. Worthless
Sounds like Preston died a hero at the hands of affluent savages. They should have remembered Frozen and “Let It Go.”
This why kids should be trained to defend themselves. Always thugs out here like this that will outnumber and jump a victim
Wtf no one is defending themselves from 7 on 1.... unless you have a gun.
What up gang, let’s throw our lives in the crap for a fake gold chain. 🤦🤦🤦
A precious life lost and all these young lives ruined. For nothing
So what he turn himself in,too beat someone too death over a piece of jewelry. Big men gang up on one person. And then run like cowards.Why didn't he come forward sooner even if he was involved. He knew they was looking at who had help do this.He thought he got away with it. It does not matter if they were juveniles at the time ,they done a mans crime try them as adults.Let them do real time. They are so tough.
So they stole a chain first, then beat up Preston Lord’s friend?
They seem to have been escalating their behavior, if that’s the case.
7!?
When will this poisonous culture of being cool and violent end?
7 on 1? Yep, that's a fair fight...poor kid.
you can die in a 1 on 1 fight you freak
Nope, not all 7 attacked Preston.
Say no to thugs…
why were there no photos of Talan remmer? his dad travis remmer and Adam Kifer work partner should also rot in hell for trying to cover this up
Juice don't believe in hell so, there's that...
Life in prison
All the suspects are so much bigger than Preston. This is sickening.
Yep, cowards. Cowards always run in packs, they are followers, never leaders.
Seven on one? Really?
I’m surprised they have a bail bond…
May the little cowards receive justice every single day in prison!
Lock them up wtf who raises kids like this wtf kind of parents do they have
Some of them were raise in loving households and taught morals. It’s hurtful that you’d bad mouth without knowing them! They’re hurting too.
It’s scary especially if you live in only 30 minutes for that place it disgusts me that the Gilbert goons did this. It was a 10 dollar gold chain we know that the Gilbert goons were just there to fight.
that makes them murderous thieves then
Which parents are wealthy? I’m just trying to get I for I’ve been seeing snippets here and there. Latest something about paying for special treatment
They don’t even mention 5% of what they actually did too the victims corpse *rich people are evil with wat they get away with*
William Hines and Treston Billey both look like buff football linebackers. Take a look at Preston Lord's photo. It wouldn't take much to beat him to death. Add the others to that fight and Preston didn't stand a chance. I suspect this isn't the first time he was bullied.
They had even released a rap song about doing this to this young man !!!!!! It was all over Snapchat ! They have no guilt and thought they would get away with it!
For real?!? If that's true omg...that's heartless.
these kids are emulating their heroes.
BRING BACK SHERIFF ARPAIO!!👍👍👍👍👍
For what😂
@@strnglhld, for you! 😂
Who still wears a mask in 2024?
Immunocompromised people?
High risk self or family member. I am higg risk b95 doc says for now.
Cool people or criminals
Too much sunshine?
Animals
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Dominic look like that one kid from Hannah Montana that had a lot of attitude
THUGS!!!!!!
thank God no cells phone camera in the 80s I would be in prison even up to this point in my life at age 51 from all the beatings I unleash on bullies be careful who you mess with someone may look like a punk, but you will be supersized word of wisdom!
Over a gold chain….😪😪😪💔💔💔💔
Deport
To where? Dudes Native
Deport a Native dude? His family should say the same about you😂😂😂
@@AR-ZONA, is Billie really Native? He looks half at best.
Thanks for providing such “valuable insight“ to the UA-cam community. I’ve not heard such profound views since talking to my neighbor Who is required to ride the short bus. 🤤
@@RSKLove if your born in U.S your a native american …. If you disagree that means were all african
Preston and Treston
It's ridiculous when punk kids are beating up and killing other kids for relatively low value items this time it's a gold chain or something that look like one used to be tennis shoes or a coat