I just realized that when he heard the word "Pond", he took the glasses off, not for emphasis or out of surprise, but to look at them. To look at Amy's glasses!
+Chad “Badl1fe” Klusman except, she did know, somewhere deep in her brain, because she was a fragment of the Clara that travelled with the Doctor after this, and she would have heard about Amy at some point. Did this Clara consciously know? Nah, but the whole getting into the Doctors time stream to save him over and over wouldn't work if some tiny part of her subconscious didn't remember that time.
I love that one episode where strax to Clara is like "may I take your coat?" "I'm not wearing a coat." "Then what is all of that?" "Clothes." "Then may o take your clothes?"
The meaning of life is our relationship with God. These four steps are the key to getting a Divine Revelation directly from him. They are something you'd eventually do if you took God seriously enough to read the Bible, while implementing its teachings. They are, forgive your parents, break down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read three books of the Bible. Step four requires the first book of each testament, and one you chose yourself. The order is actually important. The steps build on each other. Each one primes your soul for the next. To be forgiven we must forgive. Mathew 6: 14-15. That's why forgiving others has to come before asking for forgiveness. Jesus will not forgive you until you've at least done the bare minimum, our parents. They're supposed to be easiest to forgive, because they've fed, housed, loved us to some degree. Our problems with them are supposed to represent our problems with God. This is why the bare minimum to receive the revelation is our parents. You'll still have to forgive everyone though, but that comes much easier after meeting God. I'm extremely serious and very literal. I'm not talking about signs, nor feelings, nor prayer. It's an actual literal pulled out of your body direct one on one conversation, nothing you can miss. nor misinterpretae. The vast majority of christans never bother to do what God wants seriously, so most never get this revelation. To most outside church their Bible is a paper weight, or at best a virtue signal. Their religion is in what other people think about them, not their relationship with God. Please do those steps I mentioned, there really is a Divine Revelation waiting for all of us. There's extraordinarlly important information we all desperately need in this revelation, but those who get it are forbidden to share it. The Truth that Jesus Christ is Lord is written on every human heart. We all have that knowledge inside us, but we bury it under mountains of pain and anger. Those steps clear away that garbage inside you, letting God heal you, so that his words boom clearly inside your soul. The entire point of our existence here is to Trust God enough that we pay him this mustard seed of Faith, so his Grace can remove the stain sin has left on our souls. Everyone that does not get this Grace is not forgiven of any of their sins, even if they turned around and we're the best person from 25 to death. Without Grace those first sins are still counted against you, tying you to the devil's punishment. It's not about being a good person, It's about being forgiven for when you weren't. The Bible is Truth. Please do those steps and see for yourself. Please take your salvation seriously"
@@jamesmayle4712 your truth, not the truth. There is no way to prove it and what cannot be proven cannot be considered universal truth. It is your truth because it is what you believe in but it isn't everyone's case and their truth has as much validity as yours and you should be respectful of it instead of trying to impose your truth to others
Superhoop2 In he book that Amy wrote, one of her version of Clara met Amy and Rory (or just Amy), so she would know, the Doctor called her "Amelia", while Clara may of not known her name was Amelia and thought her name was Amy Pond.
Winny Obee The new danger of snow was because her position as a governess had previously belonged to a woman drowned in the estate's garden pond - the pond remained frozen when the rest of the snow had melted, tipping Clara off that it was a threat.
Ho Yan Law dalek clara was to smart and wouldve been unsustainable to the plot in the long run, like the Doctor-Donna. But yeah, Mod-Clara-should have more to do....
***** actually, Clara saved the doctor many times, indirectly saving whole of reality, she has so much potential, but Moffat just wrote her really flat and weak
@@Volkaer Amy Pond and Rory were the Doctor's last companions who he just lost. This loss is the source of his pain and isolation here. Clara literally meant a physical pond, but to the Doctor the name reinvoked all the emotions of his past self and his adventures with his recent companions - painful, yes, but just feeling again was the first step.
I LOVE VASTRA. So many writers think that in order to make a female character fierce and tough, they have to throw away class and manors. Vaster encompasses so much refinement and sophistication, but also so much ferocity, fury.
+Michael Stokes Actually there doesn't seem to have ever been any gender division in the Silurian community(although I've yet to see the classic Silurian episodes. +MadameTamma Yes, she has definitely didn't throw away her manor! ;)
Am I the only one that noticed the very slight change in Cara's expression from curious to shocked and amazed to sympathy and or pitty, like it's the most minuscule and gradual change you could possibly make in those short seconds but unless I'm crazy, you can see her face shift. Honestly, Jenna Coleman is such an amazing actor
@@scottfreckle237 apparently common sense isn't so common. Seeing a scene and noticing a subtle detail within the scene are two different things. That's like saying because you're hearing someone you're listening to them. That's not how that works.
And what happened, then? Well, in Whoville they say - that the Doctor's small hearts grew three sizes that day. And then - the true meaning of Christmas came through, and the Doctor found the strength of *ten* Gallifreyans , plus two!
The meaning of life is our relationship with God. These four steps are the key to getting a Divine Revelation directly from him. They are something you'd eventually do if you took God seriously enough to read the Bible, while implementing its teachings. They are, forgive your parents, break down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read three books of the Bible. Step four requires the first book of each testament, and one you chose yourself. The order is actually important. The steps build on each other. Each one primes your soul for the next. To be forgiven we must forgive. Mathew 6: 14-15. That's why forgiving others has to come before asking for forgiveness. Jesus will not forgive you until you've at least done the bare minimum, our parents. They're supposed to be easiest to forgive, because they've fed, housed, loved us to some degree. Our problems with them are supposed to represent our problems with God. This is why the bare minimum to receive the revelation is our parents. You'll still have to forgive everyone though, but that comes much easier after meeting God. I'm extremely serious and very literal. I'm not talking about signs, nor feelings, nor prayer. It's an actual literal pulled out of your body direct one on one conversation, nothing you can miss. nor misinterpretae. The vast majority of christans never bother to do what God wants seriously, so most never get this revelation. To most outside church their Bible is a paper weight, or at best a virtue signal. Their religion is in what other people think about them, not their relationship with God. Please do those steps I mentioned, there really is a Divine Revelation waiting for all of us. There's extraordinarlly important information we all desperately need in this revelation, but those who get it are forbidden to share it. The Truth that Jesus Christ is Lord is written on every human heart. We all have that knowledge inside us, but we bury it under mountains of pain and anger. Those steps clear away that garbage inside you, letting God heal you, so that his words boom clearly inside your soul. The entire point of our existence here is to Trust God enough that we pay him this mustard seed of Faith, so his Grace can remove the stain sin has left on our souls. Everyone that does not get this Grace is not forgiven of any of their sins, even if they turned around and we're the best person from 25 to death. Without Grace those first sins are still counted against you, tying you to the devil's punishment. It's not about being a good person, It's about being forgiven for when you weren't. The Bible is Truth. Please do those steps and see for yourself. Please take your salvation seriously"
Paternoster Gang indeed. This was a brilliant scene and we got to see how very intuitive and intelligent Clara was. Her interaction with the three of them is priceless (smile).
I love that Twelve's arc was about proving Vastra entirely wrong about him. She describes him like a force of nature, cold and unknowable, and his first season ends with him deciding he's just "an idiot," and we see River speak of him similarly when he meets her and it breaks his hearts to realise he's allowed River to think he loves her so little and decides to make it up to her. It's entirely about demythologising the Doctor, after three series of treating Eleven like a god.
Eleven was called out hardcore by River on a number of occasions, culminating in the whole War Doctor speech and how Doctor means Warrior in the language of the forest that raised her when she was kidnapped as a baby. His companion Amy’s greatest, most heartbreaking loss- the loss of her baby and getting to raise her own child- is directly attributed to 11’s curmudgeonly and bitter inner disposition that lurks beneath his facade of whimsy.
@@triplejazzmusicisall1883 I think the "he is not kind" thing was just a thinly-veiled ruse to test how well Clara trusted the Doctor, which she evidently passed with her persistence - hence the "words" answer to Vastra's question of if Clara understood what she was saying
@@h0lly_blueFrom the way Vastra’s tone subtly shifts during “He stands above this world” I get the feeling that she was quoting something The Doctor actually told her. His excuse to be left alone. Vastra saw through it. In quoting it, she was testing to see if Clara saw through it as well, The Doctors “words”. The next part, her explanation on how The Doctor USED to be, was her own personal test of Clara’s motives. She IS The Doctor’s friend, she’s not going to bother him while he’s grieving if the person trying to find him sees him as some immovable, emotionless, mythical force of nature. Something they can use like a tool to get what they want. By answering with “man”, she shows not only compassion towards the Doctor for his loss and suffering, but that she understands he is a living, breathing, imperfect person. Not a figure carved out of marble. Or maybe I’ve just watched this episode waaaay too many times and I m reading into it deeper than I should.
I love how confident Clara is in all of her answers, she’s so brilliant and clever and kind, and amazing ugh she’s my favorite I miss my impossible girl
Someday I would love for Vastra and Clara's confrontation in "Deep Breath" to be uploaded. Not the "I think you still do understand the Doctor deep down inside," but the "I took off my veil when you started to understand" interaction.
Skarne Canius No...the point is that Vastra was wearing her veil at the beginning (even we can see it), but while Clara is caught up in her angry diatribe Vastra takes it off (and Clara is so distracted in her annoyance that she doesn't notice it happen).
@@barence321 At the beginning of the scene Vastra tells Clara she wears a veil to hide what people call her “disfigurement”, and that she doesn’t wear it to conceal her face, but as a judgment on the quality of the hearts of those around her. It’s a literal veil, and once she was satisfied Clara was not a “stranger” she removed it. Everyone can see the veil too, Jenny sees it and asks if Vastra is expecting strangers to come by. Vastra turns her gaze to Clara and tells her that it seems like a stranger has already arrived or something close to that.
I can't recall a better scene in sci-fi where three women dominate the scene and the analysis and the serious and playful tension. superb writing and performances by these three actors.
And, ontop of that, it passes the Bechdel Test because The Doctor isn't technically a man. He is in *this* form, but 2 regeneration later, he isn't. They're discussing a *protector,* nothing more. Which is so interesting to me!
@@BerzerkVideos Bechdel Test: "a way of evaluating whether or not a film or other work of fiction portrays women in a way that is sexist or characterized by gender stereotyping. To pass the Bechdel test a work must feature at least two women, these women must talk to each other, *and their conversation must concern something other than a man."* Their conversation was literally _only_ over a man.
"Truth is singular. Lies are words words words." So true. I was surprised there are so few comments about this line. It's the root of the whole thing. Love it when Clara turns it on Vestra, "Words." I liked Clara a lot but Victorian Clara was awesome. Snowmen is one of my favorites.
That makes no sense. If anything, people tend to be sketchy when they lie. They say as little as possible. If someone is being honest, they know details. Sigh.
I was just wondering, and I know there's a slim chance this might be true, but what if, in all these lives that Clara has lived, she remembers EVERYTHING. It's all just locked away, and only to be brought out in times of need. So maybe, that panic in Clara's eyes wasn't because she couldn't think of a word, but she's overwhelmed by the new information that is suddenly entering her head, and she can't say anything because that would mean she would've failed Vastra's test and she would be sent away. So maybe in that one moment, she was deciding whether she should blow her cover or not. So, she decided to say the word 'Pond', both to tell the Doctor the origin of the problem, but also to gain his trust, much in the way River told 10 his name so that he would trust her.
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I know it's been said a million times, but I would've loved if Victorian Clara became a proper companian. Watching her react to modern day technology would've been hilarious and delightful.
This is present day Clara. Not really of course. Different backstory and circumstances, but the way she acts, responds, and thinks is based off of the present day Clara.
Agreed! Victorian Clara was very special. She took the "entering a time machine that is also a spaceship" like a champ. She also did a first by saying: "it's smaler on the outside". Hinting how special she was.
I think "pond" is the only word in the universe that would've got the doctor to help... Clara is a genius! :D When I first watched this bit it made me smile. :)
The logic is that Clara gave the Doctor the location, hoping he would go there. To the Doctor, Pond is more than just the location. If we deduct the significance of the word Pond (which relates to Amy and Rory), it would have had the best chance of getting the Doctor to investigate, due to his own curiosity anyway.
@Manuel Sacha She doesn't happen to, she's the Clara who entered the time stream she's been travelling with the doctor for years., she knows about the Ponds. There are a number of words she could have used for the location but because she got those memories subconsciously she chose Pond.
@Manuel Sacha Actually watch the episode Clara and the Tardis again, Clara knows about Amy Pond she just doesn't know the name Amelia. She even comments that she's the leggiest woman ever.
@Manuel Sacha It's fairly early in the time she knows the doctor, she probably ended up asking about his previous companions. Also again all you have is that she doesn't know the name Amelia, which proves exactly that, that she didn't know the name Amelia.
@Manuel Sacha You're forgetting that this is an echo of her created while she was being merged into the Doctor's time stream (or whatever remnant of him that was in his grave). There's pretty much no limit on pulling knowledge of the Doctor out of their behinds, plotwise.
It's such a small detail, but that smirk at 1:27 (I'd go to 1:25 to see the difference) is such a small tiny thing, but it conveys so much. Like right then, you see Clara understand and she either starts thinking on what to say, or is just waiting her turn.
JWolfeAotI If you consider the time period that this is to have taken place, I doubt that fruit punch was an option. Also Lady Vastra is as stated a meat eater and I believe the intention was a reference to blood and nothing else.
Never got around to watching past the tenth Doctor, so as someone who has no context for this...this scene is really fascinating. Like I'm so interested in all of these characters and I want to get to know more of them. The tension and intrigue is really great here too. What a cool setup
you should definitely check out Eleventh era, there are some great stuff in it. This episode is my personal favourite. 12th also had some cool eps here and there and I got bored during 13th, not Jodie's fault, the writing just got boring..
I agree, It's a very good scene, I liked it. However that "pond" thing is a tenuous link, what if it wasn't a pond. what if the Ice woman was being resurrected down a toilet. Clara : "I got a word for you, toilet." Vastra: "She said Toilet" Doctor: "Not interested" (Few Hours Later) Doctor: "Oh bloddy hell, the world's just got obliterated and I missed it".
I remember watching this moment the first time and thinking that Clara got lucky, but knowing this is a piece of Clara scattered through time and space... it's no coincidence and I love that. I hate Moffat's plots sometimes but this moment works.
I have never watched Dr. Who. I have nothing against it I have just never watched it. This is such fantastic writing! That scene was magic and wonderful! "Words"! that blow landed visibly! Brilliant! Even in that heavy makeup the actor's eyes and facial expressions talk to me. Such great writing and such great acting. It seems I have really been missing out by not watching the Doctor all these years!
I love Vastra's expression at that one word. "You little tick! How dare you turn my words on me." I think she got caught up in her ruse- Clara's expression shows she's not just listening to the words but the tone they're said with. She catches fast that the tone makes the words a lie.
I'm guessing she said pond because the problem that she needs solving involved that lady in the "pond" which is weird because usually if you are having trouble, like if you are falling off your bike, the first thing you're going to do is explain to someone why you need help, instead of telling them "oh I scraped my knee." But Clara felt that telling him "pond" which is what she needs help with was more important than saying WHY he needed to help her with it. Which it turns out it was because coincidently, that was the word that sprung up memories of an old, kind, Doctor and his pass with Rory and Amy. Now he is willing to help her.
One of the best Doctor Who scenes ever. The interactions between Lady Vastra, Jenny and Clara are simply excuisite, inspired and truly great acting. I note that this scene is three Women in the main, plot-crucial scene of the episode and they carry it splendidly. The photography of it is Artful, making good use of what seems to be natural sunlight seeping in through the window as well as highlighting that Claras Beauty is quite similar to Jennys and we even see Vastra finds her beautiful too for this very reason (Jenny is her Wife after all not the maid she dresses up to look like). She apparently has a Type, though she doesn't go easy on Clara for it. The best moment is when Clara uses Vastras words against her, using just one: "Words" to convey that Vastra is wrong, or even lying about the Doctor being unhelpful and aloof. Vastra loses some of her composture in chargrin and we see Jenny smirking, finding it hilarious, then Vastra concedes the Doctor was indeed once kind and a Hero even just as Clara sees him.
"Pond." I think she remembers all her past lives and meeting Amy Pond and Rory, which is why she said that word. She wasn't just saying that the pond in front of the manor was strange, she was also saying that Amy wouldn't want him to do this.
What is interesting is the exchange of looks between the two women (very well done by the way) which shows how much they both realize that Clara is not just any girl.
When Clara's true identity was revealed, at first I thought that it took away the meaning of this scene. She had known the doctor through his many lives, and so I assumed that True Clara knew about Amelia Pond and that Echo Clara must have been subconsciously aware of Amy. I.e. this scene could then be simply attributed to future/past/timey wimey knowledge. However, in the TOTD (post-jumping into Doctor's timeline), we saw that she didn't know who Amy was. So Clara really just was perceptive enough to know what to say.
actually each echo only knew the doctor from the point they were supposed to meet him but clara never helped the doctor in his 11th incarnation when amy and rory were there so both the echos and the final clara would never of known.
I kinda want to see their reactions when Clara says "Pond." I'd imagine Vastra to basically maintain most of a poker face. Jenny probably looked alarmed for a moment, because that word is more than just a word to them. And they don't yet understand, anymore than the viewer, how she could know yet may somehow.
Even after all of these years, the Doctor still talks about all his past companions and adventures with him. This seen, even with as few of words that it uses does actually explain the doctor’s life. Pond is a good way of explaining the doctor.
This is where I would have failed to become a companion. "Only one word." "Why?" "Truth is singular, lies are words, words, words..." "Yeah, no, this is stupid.
Well its true to certain extent lies are half truths covered by words and complications in an emotional aspect. Trying to consciously lie using one word is pretty difficult.
In emotional aspect yeah truth in singular because people consciously when they lie they bury it in details. While someone trying to be sincere understands concept of their message which at its core is singular. In this case my single would be "core"
Vastra : "I gave her the one word test." Doctor : "It's always pointless." I agree with the Doc. As if people can't lie in single words, or explain what they're all about in 10, 20 or another arbitrairy word limit if they are kindly asked to keep it short. Vastra is snooty, luckily they gave Clara a snappy reply to the pointlesness.
this encapsulates why clara was my favourite companion. she just had this doctor-like cleverness and it was the best, and made her a character able to stand on her own. of course she and the doctor complemented each other wonderfully, and without the doctor we wouldn't have been able to see her intergalactic adventures, but i honestly would have watched a spin-off season of her and ashieldr if it was as cleverly written as this clip. or even just by herself. i think clara is also so compelling because i was always fascinated by teacher lore. i've had quite a few teachers who would drop the wildest tidbits about their lives outside of school, and imagine if your teacher was CLARA OSWALD
12 would later give a whole speech about why he does what he does. "I do what I do because it's right, because it's decent! And above all, it's kind. Just that, just kind."
Sketching Music Most likely just a build up of all that pain. Think about what happened after he lost Clara, he almost became a villain. He might potentially just get worse as time goes on. Also, companions are normally friends, they were his family (literally, they were his mother and father in law ha ha).
To the people who doesn't understand what hapoened at 1:40, Clara basically said words because Vastra told lies are words. Clara is telling Vastra that it is a lie
@@scottfreckle237 I never said I was superior. My and my friends were confused, so when I realized while watching, I decided to comment on it. I was trying to help as I'm sure that many people may haven't understood.
1:41 The look on Vastra's and Jenny's faces. They might have finally found exactly who they need to bring the Doctor out of his isolation when they heard her call out the lie.
"words" god clara is brilliant, isn't she. loved seeing jenny react to the impossible girl, eleven's impossible girl's genius. (sidenote: all the zoom ins,,, her eyes. she's enchanting.)
This scene is powerful. Clara had to earn the test first. Her intuitive and clever responses gainer her that. The test itself was virtually impossible. Vastras observation about "the gods" was on point. The one word that clara chose to andwer with - "Pond" - meant entirely different things to her versus what it meant to the doctor, and it was impossible for her to know that. For her, "pond" was a word of desperstion (or inspiration) - whereas for The Doctor, the same word was a word of salvation. The "Gods" (and fate and time itself) were truly with Clara in that momemt, and she couldnt have succeeded otherwise. Subtle, and brilliantly done - all of it.
I just realized that when he heard the word "Pond", he took the glasses off, not for emphasis or out of surprise, but to look at them. To look at Amy's glasses!
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How did Clara know about Amy?
+W.D. Gaster She didn't know how much the word pond meant to the doctor. She was talking about the frozen pond.
She didn't. In the episode there was a woman frozen in a pong ans a child had a dream that she was going to kill people. So hence "pond".
+Chad “Badl1fe” Klusman except, she did know, somewhere deep in her brain, because she was a fragment of the Clara that travelled with the Doctor after this, and she would have heard about Amy at some point. Did this Clara consciously know? Nah, but the whole getting into the Doctors time stream to save him over and over wouldn't work if some tiny part of her subconscious didn't remember that time.
Favorite line of this episode: "DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ESCAPE OR YOU WILL BE OBLITERATED! May I take your coat?"
Strax needs more screentime.
"Madam Vastra was wondering if you would be needing any grenades?" "Grenades?" "She may have said 'help.'"
I love strax, he's always funny, like that thing: "A grenade"
Shame that through his character the Sontarans were made into comedic foil rather than a good threat.
I love that one episode where strax to Clara is like "may I take your coat?" "I'm not wearing a coat." "Then what is all of that?" "Clothes." "Then may o take your clothes?"
honestly there are enough 'threats' already
"There are two refreshments on your world the colour of red wine. This is not red wine"
OH MY GOD SHE'S DRINKING RIBENA
Namuun Batkhishig Doen't sound very Victorian or ancient reptilian
Hamir Thapar what are you talking about Ribena was the pinnacle of the ancient reptilian Victorian era
Namuun Batkhishig She's drinking fruit punch.
Cole Hotel do you think it's blackcurrant flavour or wild berry?
Namuun Batkhishig When she said that I was like 'Hey, no hate if you like Ribena.' xD
Do you understand what I'm saying to you?
"Words."
This is such a brilliant scene.
+1!
What did Clara mean by “man” though? Like “man, that’s a lot”? Or
The meaning of life is our relationship with God. These four steps are the key to getting a Divine Revelation directly from him. They are something you'd eventually do if you took God seriously enough to read the Bible, while implementing its teachings. They are, forgive your parents, break down before Jesus, ask for forgiveness, and read three books of the Bible. Step four requires the first book of each testament, and one you chose yourself. The order is actually important. The steps build on each other. Each one primes your soul for the next. To be forgiven we must forgive. Mathew 6: 14-15. That's why forgiving others has to come before asking for forgiveness. Jesus will not forgive you until you've at least done the bare minimum, our parents. They're supposed to be easiest to forgive, because they've fed, housed, loved us to some degree. Our problems with them are supposed to represent our problems with God. This is why the bare minimum to receive the revelation is our parents. You'll still have to forgive everyone though, but that comes much easier after meeting God. I'm extremely serious and very literal. I'm not talking about signs, nor feelings, nor prayer. It's an actual literal pulled out of your body direct one on one conversation, nothing you can miss. nor misinterpretae. The vast majority of christans never bother to do what God wants seriously, so most never get this revelation. To most outside church their Bible is a paper weight, or at best a virtue signal. Their religion is in what other people think about them, not their relationship with God. Please do those steps I mentioned, there really is a Divine Revelation waiting for all of us. There's extraordinarlly important information we all desperately need in this revelation, but those who get it are forbidden to share it. The Truth that Jesus Christ is Lord is written on every human heart. We all have that knowledge inside us, but we bury it under mountains of pain and anger. Those steps clear away that garbage inside you, letting God heal you, so that his words boom clearly inside your soul. The entire point of our existence here is to Trust God enough that we pay him this mustard seed of Faith, so his Grace can remove the stain sin has left on our souls. Everyone that does not get this Grace is not forgiven of any of their sins, even if they turned around and we're the best person from 25 to death. Without Grace those first sins are still counted against you, tying you to the devil's punishment. It's not about being a good person, It's about being forgiven for when you weren't. The Bible is Truth. Please do those steps and see for yourself. Please take your salvation seriously"
@@jamesmayle4712 your truth, not the truth. There is no way to prove it and what cannot be proven cannot be considered universal truth. It is your truth because it is what you believe in but it isn't everyone's case and their truth has as much validity as yours and you should be respectful of it instead of trying to impose your truth to others
Yes.
Vastra: "Do it only in one word"
Any dutch people: "Meervoudigepersoonlijkheidsstoornissen "
Hahahaha
lol
What does it mean?
@@DarxusC Multiple personality disorders
i find this brilliant as for the Doctors Regenerations cause for Different Personalities.
Oh, this was Clara's most brilliant scene. Pond. I know she and the Doctor were thinking two different things with that word, but still. Brilliant.
Superhoop2 In he book that Amy wrote, one of her version of Clara met Amy and Rory (or just Amy), so she would know, the Doctor called her "Amelia", while Clara may of not known her name was Amelia and thought her name was Amy Pond.
Winny Obee The new danger of snow was because her position as a governess had previously belonged to a woman drowned in the estate's garden pond - the pond remained frozen when the rest of the snow had melted, tipping Clara off that it was a threat.
Victorian Clara is the best, Dalek Clara (Oswin) was cool too, modern Clara is just "meh" and alike to Amy in so many ways
Ho Yan Law
dalek clara was to smart and wouldve been unsustainable to the plot in the long run, like the Doctor-Donna. But yeah, Mod-Clara-should have more to do....
***** actually, Clara saved the doctor many times, indirectly saving whole of reality, she has so much potential, but Moffat just wrote her really flat and weak
"He is not your salvation, nor your protector, do you understand what I am saying to you?"
"Words..."
Well played, Clara, well played indeed...
When she said words, I think she meant explain.
Wasn't she referencing the earlier comment that lies are words, the truth is singular? Suggesting that what, um, the green lady said is untrue
Tori Lee BURN!
That's how I'm interpreting it
Actually, she didn't believe her statement and used the bit about lies being words to call her bluff.
Doctor: "Well, what did she say? Well?"
Vastra: "Pond"
Doctor to himself:"Son of a...now I have to go do something."
I HAVE TO CHANGE MY PASSWORD AGAIN!!!!
Can anyone explain the relevance of that word? I admit I'm a pleb who missed a lot of episodes (including this one)
What's the relevance of pond despite it being Amy's second name
@@Volkaer Amy Pond and Rory were the Doctor's last companions who he just lost. This loss is the source of his pain and isolation here. Clara literally meant a physical pond, but to the Doctor the name reinvoked all the emotions of his past self and his adventures with his recent companions - painful, yes, but just feeling again was the first step.
That look on the doctor's face told me that he gave in to Clara.
I still wish we would have gotten victorian Clara as a companion.
Hand squeezed cranberry juice? Awesome!
Actually, Cranberry Juice is not squeezed. Its boiled.
+Waltham1892 she really is dedicated to cranberry juice, isn't she?
WhiteWolf Yes, she must.
And have a lot of them too...
My favourite was the one inside the dalek. She would have rocked as a companion
"He is not your salvation nor your protector. Do you understand what I am saying to you?" "Words." I LOVE THIS SCENE SO MUCH!
Burn
What does "words" mean in this scene?
Vastra earlier said “the truth is singular. Lies are words.” In essence, Clara is calling her bluff
@@krishemard7840 ahhh ok, thanks! What about "man" ?
@@GavinsBazaar313 man as in a mortal being with mortal feeling and like alot of people closing others off rather than feeling pain again
"Words"
Jenny's little smirk when Clara calls Vastra out is priceless...
"I love you and everything Vastra, but she got you with that one!"
Honestly it has to be one of my favourite parts of this scene.
Right after "but do it in one word".
They must be Very Close Friends
@@MegaZetahistorians call them roommates
I LOVE VASTRA. So many writers think that in order to make a female character fierce and tough, they have to throw away class and manors. Vaster encompasses so much refinement and sophistication, but also so much ferocity, fury.
"She's a man hater?" Considering her thoughts on the Doctor, that is highly questionable.
*****
"Her comments on men *of the Victorian Age* are very bitter."
fixed for you
+Michael Stokes Actually there doesn't seem to have ever been any gender division in the Silurian community(although I've yet to see the classic Silurian episodes.
+MadameTamma Yes, she has definitely didn't throw away her manor! ;)
Daniel Body
All the modern Silurian warriors were female
Now that I have seen Doctor Who and the Silurans, all the Silurans that were in it appeared to be male. But it's to be expected in the '70s.
Am I the only one that noticed the very slight change in Cara's expression from curious to shocked and amazed to sympathy and or pitty, like it's the most minuscule and gradual change you could possibly make in those short seconds but unless I'm crazy, you can see her face shift. Honestly, Jenna Coleman is such an amazing actor
No, literally everyone saw it, we were all watching the same scenes as you
@@scottfreckle237 apparently common sense isn't so common. Seeing a scene and noticing a subtle detail within the scene are two different things. That's like saying because you're hearing someone you're listening to them. That's not how that works.
She was incredible in "The Cry". Damn, that was a great mini-series.
"There are two refreshments in your world the colour of red wine. This is not red wine."
I knew it. Madam Vastra drinks Ribena
2 in addition to red wine or including? Because there is always cranberry juice.
Duh, it's fruit punch guys! She likes Kool-Aid!
+The Practical Spinster hand boiled cranberry juice? Sweet!
Pom Wonderful is the other, of course.
still_guns you have taken my laugh out loud of the day 😂😂😂😂😂😂
omg wow 1:42 i love jenny's face to clara's response about the doctor as if to say "damn girl she got you good"
This is basically what online application forms for law firms are like.
Vastra, Jenny and Strax should have their own show
@@markflitcroft8967 Yes!
The more words a lawyer uses when communicating with you the more contempt they have.
Oh, you have my sincere condolences.
I wish other applications were like that, I'm much better at expressing myself in writing than verbally.
Clara is so unbelievably pretty.
and short and bossy
And can't stay dead
@@soygato2722 😂😂
@wearealltubes why so mad virgin
She’s got a great profile.
And what happened, then? Well, in Whoville they say - that the Doctor's small hearts grew three sizes that day. And then - the true meaning of Christmas came through, and the Doctor found the strength of *ten* Gallifreyans , plus two!
You should have wrote "ten Time Lords, plus two" so that it would fit the metre of the original.
But can you describe it in one word?
Doctor.
Doctor? Doctor Who?
geronimo
"What did she say?"
"Pond"
*me fangirling*
"Dang! She knows my password!"
My answer: Geronimo!
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@@jamesmayle4712 shut up
"may i take your coat" he should have his own show..
I would definitely watch a Commander Strax spin-off.
LordofFullmetal Nonono, Butler Strax
TheBlockTeam on DOWNTOWN ABBEY!!!! AHAHHAHAHAHA
I'd watch it if it were the whole Paternoster Gang (less The Doctor, of course), but I don't think Strax would be a great standalone character.
wow, a year and a half later it still racking up likes :)
Paternoster Gang indeed. This was a brilliant scene and we got to see how very intuitive and intelligent Clara was. Her interaction with the three of them is priceless (smile).
BBC could have had an incredible spin off of the Paternoster Gang. I would have loved to see the adventures of Mme. Vastra, Jenny, and Strax.
If it had been the tenth Doctor, the word would no doubt had been "Rose"
+The Ravenclaw Girl It would have been a two word test and the answer as always would be..."Bad Wolf".
+Stephen Pike its 2 word!
just wolf is fine
Ninth too, Yeah?
The Ravenclaw Girl Wolf
I love that Twelve's arc was about proving Vastra entirely wrong about him. She describes him like a force of nature, cold and unknowable, and his first season ends with him deciding he's just "an idiot," and we see River speak of him similarly when he meets her and it breaks his hearts to realise he's allowed River to think he loves her so little and decides to make it up to her. It's entirely about demythologising the Doctor, after three series of treating Eleven like a god.
I hate that the last seasons have been garbage in every way. THIS is writing. Even acting.
Eleven was called out hardcore by River on a number of occasions, culminating in the whole War Doctor speech and how Doctor means Warrior in the language of the forest that raised her when she was kidnapped as a baby. His companion Amy’s greatest, most heartbreaking loss- the loss of her baby and getting to raise her own child- is directly attributed to 11’s curmudgeonly and bitter inner disposition that lurks beneath his facade of whimsy.
@@triplejazzmusicisall1883 I think the "he is not kind" thing was just a thinly-veiled ruse to test how well Clara trusted the Doctor, which she evidently passed with her persistence - hence the "words" answer to Vastra's question of if Clara understood what she was saying
@@h0lly_blueFrom the way Vastra’s tone subtly shifts during “He stands above this world” I get the feeling that she was quoting something The Doctor actually told her. His excuse to be left alone.
Vastra saw through it. In quoting it, she was testing to see if Clara saw through it as well, The Doctors “words”.
The next part, her explanation on how The Doctor USED to be, was her own personal test of Clara’s motives. She IS The Doctor’s friend, she’s not going to bother him while he’s grieving if the person trying to find him sees him as some immovable, emotionless, mythical force of nature. Something they can use like a tool to get what they want.
By answering with “man”, she shows not only compassion towards the Doctor for his loss and suffering, but that she understands he is a living, breathing, imperfect person. Not a figure carved out of marble.
Or maybe I’ve just watched this episode waaaay too many times and I m reading into it deeper than I should.
This is a brilliant scene. Well written and well acted.
I pity the translators who had to work on this scene.
Still better than Hold the door - Hodor...
@@EnigmaAleks halte die tür, die tür.. Hodor
Better than "dür" I suppose.
@@EnigmaAleks+ lou mertens:
Czech - Podrž dveře... Dveře... Hodor 😁
In french they made it "Retenez les au dehors"
" Keep them outside " (basically)
Then he repeats "au dehors" until it makes Hodor.
I love how confident Clara is in all of her answers, she’s so brilliant and clever and kind, and amazing ugh she’s my favorite I miss my impossible girl
Someday I would love for Vastra and Clara's confrontation in "Deep Breath" to be uploaded. Not the "I think you still do understand the Doctor deep down inside," but the "I took off my veil when you started to understand" interaction.
thats just it. the idea is she was never wearing the veil. clara simply PERCEIVED IT.
Skarne Canius No...the point is that Vastra was wearing her veil at the beginning (even we can see it), but while Clara is caught up in her angry diatribe Vastra takes it off (and Clara is so distracted in her annoyance that she doesn't notice it happen).
@@taylorb9484 Do we see Vastra taking it of?
Clara asked when Madame Vastra stopped wearing her veil. Vastra replied, "When you stopped seeing it." The veil was a perception filter.
@@barence321 At the beginning of the scene Vastra tells Clara she wears a veil to hide what people call her “disfigurement”, and that she doesn’t wear it to conceal her face, but as a judgment on the quality of the hearts of those around her. It’s a literal veil, and once she was satisfied Clara was not a “stranger” she removed it.
Everyone can see the veil too, Jenny sees it and asks if Vastra is expecting strangers to come by. Vastra turns her gaze to Clara and tells her that it seems like a stranger has already arrived or something close to that.
I can't recall a better scene in sci-fi where three women dominate the scene and the analysis and the serious and playful tension. superb writing and performances by these three actors.
And, ontop of that, it passes the Bechdel Test because The Doctor isn't technically a man. He is in *this* form, but 2 regeneration later, he isn't. They're discussing a *protector,* nothing more. Which is so interesting to me!
@@BerzerkVideos Clara said "Man" though
@@BerzerkVideos Bechdel Test:
"a way of evaluating whether or not a film or other work of fiction portrays women in a way that is sexist or characterized by gender stereotyping. To pass the Bechdel test a work must feature at least two women, these women must talk to each other, *and their conversation must concern something other than a man."* Their conversation was literally _only_ over a man.
I can't decide if it was more fun to write or act
@@BerzerkVideos Nice try.
I didn't know madam vastra enjoyed the refreshing taste of fruit punch flavored Kool aid!
That's ribena you uncultured swine
Why would she have a crap American drink?
CMOT101 it was a joke. God you Brit’s are dense
@@alexsantoro597 ribena is not a fucking joke
Maybe it’s cranberry juice
Vastra: "...but do it in one word."
All germans: "Kinderspiel"
Indeed.
Ah, German, one of the few languages that will take a full sentence, cut out the spaces, and call it a single "word".
Yeah, as I watched this I thought "It's a good thing this isn't in German or it would have taken all the challenge out of it."
Reminds me of the Barbarbara video.
Childs play?
I could look at Clara all day.
Same. My favourite actress too
IKR? Just yes.
Man of Reason please stop posting this on every vid with her in it Jenna Coleman was not in doctor who for sex appeal
ghjk plok (raspberry blow)
@@theoledicktwist6247 who said anything about sex?
Feel really bad for the doctor hes lost his mother in law father in law and his wife all at once.
They were friends before River
+Connor Kingston they're his family :( They're so much more...
I whos he got left now.
I don't want to know what happens to tiver but In what episode does it happen?
Season 4 episode 9 tbh if you watched the newer episodes you'd know what happens to her they hint it enough some even say what happens.
"There are two refreshments on your world the colour of red wine. This is not red wine"
*Wall breaks down*
"OH YEAH!!!!!"
"Truth is singular. Lies are words words words." So true. I was surprised there are so few comments about this line. It's the root of the whole thing. Love it when Clara turns it on Vestra, "Words." I liked Clara a lot but Victorian Clara was awesome. Snowmen is one of my favorites.
That makes no sense. If anything, people tend to be sketchy when they lie. They say as little as possible. If someone is being honest, they know details. Sigh.
The irony is, that it was an answer to a single word Question: Why?
It's so untrue though. If it's a yes or no question, a lie is just as brief as the truth. Many times, lies are simple
It is pretentious and makes no actual sense. A very cool scene, regardless.
Love this scene ... I do this test with my kids when they get in trouble.... The one word test works....
I will have to show this to my sister when SHE has kids 0-0
I will try this when I have kids, it'd be funny.
Good idea
it was a good scene but the idea of trying to use it as a
"fair" way to find out about a situation seems ridiculous to me.
Ah, reptilians from the beginning of earth. They know a few parenting tricks.
For whoever watched season 10 finale:
"Why would he help you?"
"Kindness."
Clara knew who the real Doctor was all along
I was just wondering, and I know there's a slim chance this might be true, but what if, in all these lives that Clara has lived, she remembers EVERYTHING. It's all just locked away, and only to be brought out in times of need. So maybe, that panic in Clara's eyes wasn't because she couldn't think of a word, but she's overwhelmed by the new information that is suddenly entering her head, and she can't say anything because that would mean she would've failed Vastra's test and she would be sent away. So maybe in that one moment, she was deciding whether she should blow her cover or not. So, she decided to say the word 'Pond', both to tell the Doctor the origin of the problem, but also to gain his trust, much in the way River told 10 his name so that he would trust her.
Namuun Batkhishig You have A+ Doctor Who commentary on here
mara.iara *boes*
(get it?)
Namuun Batkhishig lol whyyyyyyy
Pls have a DW blog
Cole Hotel Yes in fact I am an endangered sub-species of Unicorn - I am a moonicorn. I am nocturnal due to my lack of sleep in the night due to a magical place called Tumblr. No one is sure of the moonicorns eating pattern, as it seems to consist entirely on Nutella. However, scientists have proven that moonicorns take special delight in Doctor Who, Sherlock, Supernatural, Harry Potter, UA-camrs and many more areas of interest.
Moon Batkhishig she drinking blood
I know it's been said a million times, but I would've loved if Victorian Clara became a proper companian. Watching her react to modern day technology would've been hilarious and delightful.
"Do not attempt to escape or you will be obliterated. May I take your coat?"
You gotta love Strax.
I remember wishing that this Clara, the one living in the Victorian era, became the companion. I liked her better than present-day Clara.
This is present day Clara. Not really of course. Different backstory and circumstances, but the way she acts, responds, and thinks is based off of the present day Clara.
@@jmmproductions6741 I know bit I found the idea of having a companion from the past being more fascinating than having a companion from the present
Also, Victorian Clara means no dull Danny Pink .. so there's that ! 😜
Yeah, I’ve always preferred this Clara
Agreed!
Victorian Clara was very special. She took the "entering a time machine that is also a spaceship" like a champ.
She also did a first by saying: "it's smaler on the outside". Hinting how special she was.
I think "pond" is the only word in the universe that would've got the doctor to help... Clara is a genius! :D When I first watched this bit it made me smile. :)
what about rose
@@MalachiFostermurphy it wouldn't explain the danger she was in. The test was to challenge all of that
The logic is that Clara gave the Doctor the location, hoping he would go there. To the Doctor, Pond is more than just the location. If we deduct the significance of the word Pond (which relates to Amy and Rory), it would have had the best chance of getting the Doctor to investigate, due to his own curiosity anyway.
TomcatLilly Pascal Plewa Manuel Sacha @PuppahNugget Tejan Cummings
@Manuel Sacha She doesn't happen to, she's the Clara who entered the time stream she's been travelling with the doctor for years., she knows about the Ponds. There are a number of words she could have used for the location but because she got those memories subconsciously she chose Pond.
@Manuel Sacha Actually watch the episode Clara and the Tardis again, Clara knows about Amy Pond she just doesn't know the name Amelia.
She even comments that she's the leggiest woman ever.
@Manuel Sacha It's fairly early in the time she knows the doctor, she probably ended up asking about his previous companions. Also again all you have is that she doesn't know the name Amelia, which proves exactly that, that she didn't know the name Amelia.
@Manuel Sacha You're forgetting that this is an echo of her created while she was being merged into the Doctor's time stream (or whatever remnant of him that was in his grave). There's pretty much no limit on pulling knowledge of the Doctor out of their behinds, plotwise.
I can't believe this was uploaded in 2013. It doesn't feel like it should be that old!
It's such a small detail, but that smirk at 1:27 (I'd go to 1:25 to see the difference) is such a small tiny thing, but it conveys so much. Like right then, you see Clara understand and she either starts thinking on what to say, or is just waiting her turn.
"There are two drinks on this planet that are the color of red wine. This is not red wine." Duh, cuz it's obviously fruit punch. XD
Wrong.....what is Vastra? She is a lizard woman...they eat meat....RAW meat! Hence....the drink is BLOOD!
drakonisfire you're so smart
JWolfeAotI If you consider the time period that this is to have taken place, I doubt that fruit punch was an option. Also Lady Vastra is as stated a meat eater and I believe the intention was a reference to blood and nothing else.
JWolfeAotI Does claret count as other than wine?
John Straub You are so dumb aren't you? It's a joke man.
I loved this Clara. the episode that made me fall for the character. she was witty and smart. not to mention the banter on the roof with the umbrella
Never got around to watching past the tenth Doctor, so as someone who has no context for this...this scene is really fascinating. Like I'm so interested in all of these characters and I want to get to know more of them. The tension and intrigue is really great here too. What a cool setup
you should definitely check out Eleventh era, there are some great stuff in it. This episode is my personal favourite. 12th also had some cool eps here and there and I got bored during 13th, not Jodie's fault, the writing just got boring..
"One word,one word only". "Pond".
NO!! NOT MY PASSWORD!
"do not attempt to escape or you will be obliterated!"
"may I take your coat?"
Clara: "Pond"
Doctor with voice changer: "Why did you say that name?!"
I just love this scene.
I agree, It's a very good scene, I liked it. However that "pond" thing is a tenuous link, what if it wasn't a pond. what if the Ice woman was being resurrected down a toilet.
Clara : "I got a word for you, toilet."
Vastra: "She said Toilet"
Doctor: "Not interested"
(Few Hours Later)
Doctor: "Oh bloddy hell, the world's just got obliterated and I missed it".
DAN44100 well i think the whole clara story line did want to make a point about coincidences.
Orko Also, it's more than just a coincidence. We found out why in "The Name of the Doctor."
***** I know =)
Orko Cute
I love at 1:18 Clara doesn't answer, she asks a question and tricks Vastra into totally blowing the whole thing open.
I remember watching this moment the first time and thinking that Clara got lucky, but knowing this is a piece of Clara scattered through time and space... it's no coincidence and I love that. I hate Moffat's plots sometimes but this moment works.
I loved Victorian Clara. As a governess, she would have been well-versed in language and lexicon. This scene is a brilliant example of her knowledge.
I have never watched Dr. Who. I have nothing against it I have just never watched it. This is such fantastic writing! That scene was magic and wonderful! "Words"! that blow landed visibly! Brilliant! Even in that heavy makeup the actor's eyes and facial expressions talk to me. Such great writing and such great acting. It seems I have really been missing out by not watching the Doctor all these years!
Have you fixed this ?
I love Vastra's expression at that one word.
"You little tick! How dare you turn my words on me."
I think she got caught up in her ruse- Clara's expression shows she's not just listening to the words but the tone they're said with. She catches fast that the tone makes the words a lie.
If you want to start your Dr Who odyssey I suggest "Blink".
You do not understand how much I freaked out while watching this for the first time.
I love those three; Strax, Vastra and Jenny
I'm guessing she said pond because the problem that she needs solving involved that lady in the "pond" which is weird because usually if you are having trouble, like if you are falling off your bike, the first thing you're going to do is explain to someone why you need help, instead of telling them "oh I scraped my knee." But Clara felt that telling him "pond" which is what she needs help with was more important than saying WHY he needed to help her with it. Which it turns out it was because coincidently, that was the word that sprung up memories of an old, kind, Doctor and his pass with Rory and Amy. Now he is willing to help her.
Victoria Chisolm what does pond have to do with Roy and Amy? Did I miss any episodes?
"Amy Pond"
"Rory Pond"
It's their last name. Well, since they're married Rory's last name sort of changed to Pond as well
This is definetley one of the most legandary moments of doctor who, this is GOLD!
One of the best Doctor Who scenes ever.
The interactions between Lady Vastra, Jenny and Clara are simply excuisite, inspired and truly great acting. I note that this scene is three Women in the main, plot-crucial scene of the episode and they carry it splendidly.
The photography of it is Artful, making good use of what seems to be natural sunlight seeping in through the window as well as highlighting that Claras Beauty is quite similar to Jennys and we even see Vastra finds her beautiful too for this very reason (Jenny is her Wife after all not the maid she dresses up to look like). She apparently has a Type, though she doesn't go easy on Clara for it.
The best moment is when Clara uses Vastras words against her, using just one: "Words" to convey that Vastra is wrong, or even lying about the Doctor being unhelpful and aloof. Vastra loses some of her composture in chargrin and we see Jenny smirking, finding it hilarious, then Vastra concedes the Doctor was indeed once kind and a Hero even just as Clara sees him.
My favourite part is when strax says
“DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ESCAPE OR YOU WILL BE OBLITERATED...may I take your coat”
"Pond." I think she remembers all her past lives and meeting Amy Pond and Rory, which is why she said that word. She wasn't just saying that the pond in front of the manor was strange, she was also saying that Amy wouldn't want him to do this.
@3:32-3:38
The precise moment the Doctor realizes that the Call must once again be answered.
What is interesting is the exchange of looks between the two women (very well done by the way) which shows how much they both realize that Clara is not just any girl.
I miss Rory and Amy so much ;___;
***** Um.. didn't 9 say that? Or am I missing something?
***** Everybody Lives was spoken once per Doctor. 9 said it, and River said it in her monologue at the end of the Library episode.
I love Clara she is like the perfect partner for 11 but Rory and Amy will always occupy a special place.
80811B she worked with 12 way better than she did 11.
@@kirakiryu1020 i love Rose!
When Clara's true identity was revealed, at first I thought that it took away the meaning of this scene. She had known the doctor through his many lives, and so I assumed that True Clara knew about Amelia Pond and that Echo Clara must have been subconsciously aware of Amy. I.e. this scene could then be simply attributed to future/past/timey wimey knowledge. However, in the TOTD (post-jumping into Doctor's timeline), we saw that she didn't know who Amy was. So Clara really just was perceptive enough to know what to say.
actually each echo only knew the doctor from the point they were supposed to meet him but clara never helped the doctor in his 11th incarnation when amy and rory were there so both the echos and the final clara would never of known.
I know trueClara didn't intercede. I thought that maybe the Doctor had told her about Amy (he talks sometimes about previous companions). :)
@@ubiveritasetamor Clara and The TARDIS.
The tardis showed Clara all previous companions to tell her she wasn't special at one point.
@@Soraking007 Oswin the Dalek ?
She did have a point. “Truth is singular, lies are words, words, words.”
One of the best written scenes! One of the several gems nestled in Series 7.
I kinda want to see their reactions when Clara says "Pond."
I'd imagine Vastra to basically maintain most of a poker face. Jenny probably looked alarmed for a moment, because that word is more than just a word to them. And they don't yet understand, anymore than the viewer, how she could know yet may somehow.
Even after all of these years, the Doctor still talks about all his past companions and adventures with him. This seen, even with as few of words that it uses does actually explain the doctor’s life. Pond is a good way of explaining the doctor.
This is where I would have failed to become a companion.
"Only one word."
"Why?"
"Truth is singular, lies are words, words, words..."
"Yeah, no, this is stupid.
Well its true to certain extent lies are half truths covered by words and complications in an emotional aspect. Trying to consciously lie using one word is pretty difficult.
In emotional aspect yeah truth in singular because people consciously when they lie they bury it in details. While someone trying to be sincere understands concept of their message which at its core is singular. In this case my single would be "core"
No this is knowing the doctor.
One word to explain why that is bollocks:
“Nuance”
"Only one word."
"Why?"
"Truth is singular, lies are words, words, words..."
"...Annoying."
I always liked the measure of elegance Clara managed to project.
I just can't get enough of Strax.
I can
pretty much the most kickass fucking maid ever, he is of a powerful race and the have him doing menial fucking tasks lol
Amber Mercado Strax is the Sontaran (The potato guy). Madame Vastra's wife is Jenny flint. The other girl with the birthmark near her mouth. :)
no, but i mean they treat strax like a little bitch haha
TheUtanium Because he was sentenced to be a nurse/servant. To a sontaran, that's the equivalent of a human being sentenced to life in prison.
I have watched this episode so many times, and only on my most recent binge, have I noticed those are amy's glasses.
I've watched this back so many times now I can practically quote it. It's such a good scene.
I wish they had created a spinoff with Madam Vastra, Jenny and Strax.
A bit like Victorian Torchwood
@@TheSuperdog2010 But better, bar Jack harkness.
There are some Big Finish audio of them.
Vastra : "I gave her the one word test."
Doctor : "It's always pointless."
I agree with the Doc. As if people can't lie in single words, or explain what they're all about in 10, 20 or another arbitrairy word limit if they are kindly asked to keep it short. Vastra is snooty, luckily they gave Clara a snappy reply to the pointlesness.
This "Pond" answer always brings me to tears. And the Doctor's reaction... 😭
Can I just say.
This scene is beautifully filmed and lighted? Like omg the stained glass is AMAZING!!
this encapsulates why clara was my favourite companion. she just had this doctor-like cleverness and it was the best, and made her a character able to stand on her own. of course she and the doctor complemented each other wonderfully, and without the doctor we wouldn't have been able to see her intergalactic adventures, but i honestly would have watched a spin-off season of her and ashieldr if it was as cleverly written as this clip. or even just by herself. i think clara is also so compelling because i was always fascinated by teacher lore. i've had quite a few teachers who would drop the wildest tidbits about their lives outside of school, and imagine if your teacher was CLARA OSWALD
12 would later give a whole speech about why he does what he does. "I do what I do because it's right, because it's decent! And above all, it's kind. Just that, just kind."
Why is it after losing Amy and Rory he becomes isolated even though he's lost so many other companions
The more companions he loses, the more it hurts.
But he never went into isolation after losing previous companions.
Why only after Amy and Rory?
Sketching Music Most likely just a build up of all that pain. Think about what happened after he lost Clara, he almost became a villain. He might potentially just get worse as time goes on. Also, companions are normally friends, they were his family (literally, they were his mother and father in law ha ha).
Oh right. Makes sense
Or things might improve when Moffat leaves ;)
To the people who doesn't understand what hapoened at 1:40, Clara basically said words because Vastra told lies are words. Clara is telling Vastra that it is a lie
And Vastra was *not* happy being called a liar, much less having her own reasoning turned on her!
yes, we're adults, we know, what makes you think you're superior and that others must not know this?
@@scottfreckle237 I never said I was superior. My and my friends were confused, so when I realized while watching, I decided to comment on it. I was trying to help as I'm sure that many people may haven't understood.
@@scottfreckle237 Besides, you are not everyone, there will surely be people who don't understand.
1:41 The look on Vastra's and Jenny's faces. They might have finally found exactly who they need to bring the Doctor out of his isolation when they heard her call out the lie.
"words"
god clara is brilliant, isn't she. loved seeing jenny react to the impossible girl, eleven's impossible girl's genius.
(sidenote: all the zoom ins,,, her eyes. she's enchanting.)
This scene is powerful. Clara had to earn the test first. Her intuitive and clever responses gainer her that. The test itself was virtually impossible. Vastras observation about "the gods" was on point. The one word that clara chose to andwer with - "Pond" - meant entirely different things to her versus what it meant to the doctor, and it was impossible for her to know that. For her, "pond" was a word of desperstion (or inspiration) - whereas for The Doctor, the same word was a word of salvation. The "Gods" (and fate and time itself) were truly with Clara in that momemt, and she couldnt have succeeded otherwise. Subtle, and brilliantly done - all of it.
such a powerful word!!!
I think this could easily be my favourite single scene in all of NewWho. It's just so, so damn clever.
Vastra is honestly badass!! She was such an amazing character. I wish we got to see more of her and Jenny. And Clara is so brilliant in this scene.
"Pond" - goosebumps every time
Strax: (threatening) Do not attempt to escape or you'll be obliterated.
(Softly and politely) May I take your coat?
😂😂😂
Good Greif, I so want to go off and watch this again...I think I will! Merry Christmas everyone, and have a fantastic 2014! Geronimo!
Can remember seeing this for the first time, yelling with triumph at the tellie when Vastra says "Pond".
"words"
That one bit was so good that I can repeat that dozens of time now.
Thematically and conceptually, this scene is cool. Practically, it's utterly ridiculous and eye-rolling.
''Why would the Doctor help you?"
"Doctor."
This would be so strange for people that have not seen the show
This scene is so very well written! Dear gosh...
I rewatch Dr. Who ever now and then, but I rewatch this scene at least 5 times a year.
"There are two refreshments in your world the colour of red wine. This is not red wine". So... grape juice