Episode 1 of ITV2's new show The Big Reunion focuses on the rise and fall of 5ive and Liberty X. No copyright infringement intended. All copyright goes to ITV2.
@@abdulmumin6251 Look at what happened to N'Sync in The Boy Band Con Documentary that Lance Bass did. N'Sync are finally enjoying the fruits of their labours after three years and are finally given their Royalty Check. It was only $10,000.00 US which was a joke. They sued Lou Pearlman got out of the Contract but alot of Groups got shafted. TLC sells a 10 Million Copy Album and still declare bankruptcy and The Bay City Rollers to this day never got paid.
No matter how many times I watch this ep (it’s been a few brings me comfort) all I take from it is that Sean disliked everyone, and then jsut complained throughout. He lied about what happened with Jay (who confirmed it when he filmed his own episode) and then during the reunion he didn’t like anything and was always yelling. Everyone was so professional except for him
I remember watching this at the time, I didn't know how revolutionary it was because I wasn't born in the 90s, but now looking back I'm realising how rare and unprecedented it was
@@Vixenbeach123 At least These Groups did it. In The US it would never happen. For some of them, their relationship is so hostile they won't even be in the same Room together. Eden's Crush (US Popstars), O-Town, 3LW (Three Little Women), Dream, Play. Did you see the Documentary about Lou Pearlman, that sicko perv who did his Acts dirty. Can you imagine working for Three Years then finally getting the Fruits of your labors and getting a Check for only $10,000.00 (US) when you sold millions and finding out that you had one of the Worst Contracts known to Mankind.
So Scott was the reason the band broke up and then was complaining that he'd been trying to bring it back unsuccessfully and blames it on J, what a nice dude!
I'm an American that knows very little of these once famous Pop Bands. I recall seeing their band names on teeny bopper magazines back in the day but would only read a bit. Also I do recall hearing 5ive and BWitched on American pop radio back in 1999 2001 I think
Honestly such an amazing show. There are a lot of songs from these pop bands I listened to as a kid. It makes you wonder... "What happened to those pop bands?" Something I have asked myself. What happened to the A*teens? They were huge back in the early 2000s and late 1990s.
A*teens disbanded in 2005. Since then the members of A*teens has been doing well for themselves. Maria was a judge on the x factor sweden and now she is a mother. Sara has shun the spotlight in order to be a mother but she had said that she is open for a reunion, the boys i cant remember their names but i do know that one of them is a DJ and one of them is a music producer.
When five were Interviewed by Carson Daly they had no idea that they were meeting one of America's Top Music Hosts. Besides doing Total Request Live (A Segment On MTV New York) where The Backstreet Boys acknowledged that AJ McLean was in Rehab he also introduced TLC at The MTV Awards after the the death of Lisa Left Eye Lopes who now is a successful Morning Anchor at Today on NBC (National Broadcasting Company) and the Host of The Voice (US).
This is a great show. I was born in the mid nighties so have limited memory of these acts, but it's interesting hearing what life is like post-stardom for those who left the music industry. It's actually pretty poignant in places.
Absolutely! Look at what happened with Jon Knight of New Kids On The Block. When they Broke up, he woke up and looked around the Family house and saw how quiet it was. No Groupies, Hangers On, etc. He got depressed haed to take meds, and go to therapy. He didn't come out at the time, and that may have affected him. He's done very well for himself as a House Flipper and is married to a Man named Harley.
Popstars back in the 90s had short life spans because they were signed on by record label based on novelty and good looks which was marketed for the music videos and teenagers. Not saying they are not talented, Im just saying artistry is the one thing they really lacked. The one reason why The Beatles, Michael Jackson, Maddonna et al. are still selling records and appealing to todays generation is because they are true artists. People who can make music that withstands the test of time.
You are so right on! When Eden's Crush (US Popstars 2001), were created it was during the Latin Music Invasion with Mark Anthony (Jennifer Lopez's Ex Husband), Jennifer Lopez herself, Ricky Martin, Shakira (Who Record For Gloria & Emilio Estafan's) Label as well as Enrique Iglesias. Three of Them are Latin (Ana-Maria, Rosanna, & Ivette) while Maile Misajon (Pronounced Mylee Misahon the E is Silent) who is part Irish & Hawaiian, and Nicole Scherzinger who is Russian, Filipino, Hawaiian & Chinese. She was public enemy Number One because like Nadine Coyle in Girls Aloud (UK Popstars), she got alot of leads. She didn't make any Bank off of this group nor The Pussycat Dolls who were called a Prostitution Ring.
I heard that after this episode finished recording, Sean sat outside the studio on the steps and sobbed his heart out. :'( I really wanna give him a massive hug!
Aww, how sad. It kind of reminds me of Jamie Kelly who missed out on being part of New Kids On The Block because he didn't pay attention and listen to what he was told. In the late 1980's and early 1990's he worked as a Truck Driver Shoveling Snow for The City, got his wages and squandered them at the Bars, and had nothing by Monday. Eldridge "Al" Bryant was in The Temptations who got fired in 1963, then the Group goes on to superstardom without him, and in 1968 he sees Otis Williams the only surviving member of the Group and he's a Mess. HIs Clothes are a mess, so is his hair, and he's an alcoholic. He died of Liver disease but in reality he died of a Broken Heart. I would have loved for US Self Help Guru Dr. Phil McGraw or Spiritual Guru Iyanla Vanzant to talk to him. Iyanla "Read" The Girlfriend of Tito Jackson's Son saying "You want to live the Life of Being A Jackson with the Money but it's not there."
+laminage the American music industry can get very lonesome. these dreamers with broken hearts need to understand life isn't all about success, fame and fortune. I live in Southeast Asia, and people here are content on the little things that keep them alive and happy.
You are lucky. The Folks of Asia and India are very spiritual and you live by "Less Is More". Also remember alot of these kids come from Low Income Familes, chances are their Father ran out on them, most don't even finish school so to be told you can go from having nothing to having it all, who'se going to say no to that. Yet nobody teaches them to have a Plan B, be self sufficient and self reliant and when things go bad, they don't know why.
I would actually say everybody in this world is just fortunate to breathe air. Plenty of circumstances define our character, career, etc. but I've always believed that life occupies a greater faculty in between these "defining" moments, such as the basic yet essential acts of walking and eating. This line of thought allows me to cope all the bad stuff.
I've noticed also that a lot of Boy Bands and even Nadine Coyle have owned or run Restaurants. It's nice to know they could have a life outside of Show Business.
Liberty X should have won popstars. I mean i dont know a lot of Hear'say songs all i know is that one of the Hear'say members married Lisa Scott from steps.
When you are a Young Lad from A Council Environment and you're told that you're going to be the next big thing and of course you're going to believe it. Lou Pearlman did the same thing with his Proteges as well putting them in a house.
Looking back Liberty X was so lucky especially when you saw that Phixx (The Popstars: The Rivals) Rejects, didn't make it and the same thing happened with LMNT which consisted of a Former Boy Band Member of O-Town and a couple of other "Rejects". Ikika who left O-Town admitted that Lou Pearlman (That Perv) wanted him to be his "Boy". In a Vanity Fair Interview, many young men admitted they went into his Room thinking he would make them superstars and of course he didn't.
You could tell that Liberty X was struggling even though they were big and it just makes my heart happy that they stayed in touch with each other even after the band broke up.
What I wouldn't have given for someone from a Past Boy Band to sit their Butts down and tell them "This isn't going to last forever." The Jackson Five & Osmonds found that out the hard way.
They were also very lucky because even though they weren't initially "chosen" they got a second chance. In The US alot of folks tried to form another Boy Band and it never went far. LMNT consisted of Bryan Chan, Mike Miller who were Two Rejects from O-Town and Ikika Kaohano who chose not to be in O Town at the last Minute and Matthew Morrison who also was on The Soap Opera As The World Turns, did Glee and of course worked with Cheryl Ann Tweedy and Oti Mabuse on The Greatest Dancer.
thanks for the upload man - I didn't know about the show until I just happened to see the opening credits of episode 5 when channel surging :-) time to play catch up
Looking back they were lucky to do what they did. They got closure, they healed they look back on the past and found out through some humiliating experiences that "Pop Music Giveth, Pop Music Take Away". Also, did any of them come out with anything. I look at The US Pop Groups from O-Town, Eden's Crush, Scene 23 and LMNT (Pronounced Element) which consisted of Two O-Town Rejects and a Young Man named Ikika who was Part White/Part Hawaiian, who although was in O-Town quit and was replaced by a Man named Dan Miller and would never do what these guys did. O-Town got screwed over much worse by Lou Pearlman who launched the Careers of Backstreet Boys & N'Sync and US5. None of them made Bank, in fact one Former O-Town Member Ashley Angel once had a Bank Balance of Negative 25.00 who would later star in Wild Things 4.
What Liberty X were trying to do were "Reinvent" themselves and sadly it doesn't always work out. New Kids On The Block Found that out the hard way. They went from Singing "The Right Stuff" to "Dirty Dawg", they were trying to cash in on The New Jack Swing Movement created by Guy, with Blackstreet (Teddy Riley's Other Group), R. Kelly, Keith Sweat & Bell Biv Devoe and nobody was buying it. In The African American Press, they were vilified along with George Michael (RIP) and Sheena Easton as White Acts who did R & B Influenced Music and having more fame than The Actual Black Singers themselves. In future years they would "diss" Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, and The Backstreet Boys.
Two of 5s members was praised by Simon Cowell for going to jail because of a brawl which led to front page news....😑 that's not a great way to manage and support a group, especially as young as them, if they are to have a long career
Just showing how much they aren't people to record moguls. Just commodities. He wasn't at all concerned with their welfare. Made his millions then when they crash from mental breakdowns or rehab just move on to the next thing. 😡
I've also noticed that Liverpool and Newcastle/Geordie have had alot of Girl Group Icons. Nicola Roberts and Kerry Katona (Girls Aloud & Atomic Kitten) and Cheryl Ann Tweedy Of Girls Aloud.
+Aimee Whelan I love BSB and they were more famous than 5ive just because BSB is an american boyband,I really think Five is the most original boyband ever :D
+Aimee Whelan your opinion but 5ive has hit charts in 90's with one the biggest hit that they made. they are more talented than any other boy bands out there. they had made millions with two of their albums before splitting up.
+Aimee Whelan if u want know who was first boy band it was kid on the block late 80 to early 90 bet u didn't know that! they were singing before bsb band js. I'm 80 baby I should know
@@BettyMareeHOHCountry I don't think he did Westlife. Louis Walsh who was a Judge on Popstars The Rivals with Pete Waterman who Simon pestered to get his foot in the door. Kerry Katona's problems and Daniella Westbrook had the worst downfall as far as I'm concerned.
@@jeniestra. I am from Holland. They were HUGE here. A quick Google search will reveal that they were huge in Australia, Europe, Asia... Also, they made and wrote their own music and did not have a marketing force behind them like 5ive did. Teenage boys openly liked them so they were not like Take That for example, they were pretty unique in that sense
@@jeniestra. Actually East 17 had the more global audience. A quick bit of investigation and you will see that's true. 5ive did not make it in the US. They had one single that reached number 10 ("When the Lights Go Out") and nothing after that. Simon Cowell said on more than one occasion that he wanted "Slam dunk da funk" to remind people of East 17. 5ive were very popular indeed, but in my original comment I was merely commenting on what you said about their ability to capture different types of audiences, that's all. Not doubting their popularity in general.
I went to the tour and yea, it sucked that it wasn't Jenny. She had just had twins when they were doing the big reunion which is why they brought back Kerry.
And fives decline is the reason that every band Richard griffiths has managed since (he’s part of modest management) have a lot more time off like for every month worked they get a week or two off, which still isn’t great but it’s better than what previous bands had
You know what's so quirky. In her Book Kimberley Walsh talked about how she was in The Lineup to audition and Nicola was ahead of her by Two Folks. Menudo The Latin Boy Band was also signed to RCA who had a deal worth 30 Million Dollars which was the biggest deal at that time. However Menudo went through various Group Changes (By Rule) and one of them Miguel Cancel ended up as a Fry Cook at Burger King.
What happened with Liberty X and Hear'Say kind of paralleled The Backstreet Boys and N'Sync. When N'Sync first started out , they were thought of as a ripoff of the Backstreet Boys. Yet look what happened. N'Sync was just as big and when "Gone" came out, it was The Coronation of Justin Timberlake as a Superstar. The UK always had a Market for Boy Bands/Girl Groups but if there was one thing that they had in common with their US Counterparts. They didn't know how to handle their lives after the Fame ended. They were very brave because their US Counterparts would never do a Reunion like that. Eden's Crush, (US Popstars), 3LW, O-Town, Play, Dream, would never share a stage the way these guys did.
I remember watching The Sins Of Archie Mitchell and Janine Butcher (Played By Charlie Brooks) was singing The Liberty X Song and I didn't get it at first. I live in Canada so none of these groups made it in North America, I fell out laughing.
Dear God! These Kids had too much excess too soon and too quick. It seems to me that nobody smacked their hands if need be and say "No!". Better yet, tell them that New Kids On The Block, were once very big they are not now, nor are The Osmonds and if could happen to them, it can happen to you. Each Group averaged around Nine Million Records each. I'm sure for some of them, they were able to get closure while others hoped that this would be a "Comeback".
This Documentary is amazing because it shows that there's no such thing as an overnight success. Simon Cowell would follow Pete Waterman (SAW) like a B@tch trying to get his foot in the Door.
If Liberty X felt bad think about how Pete Best felt when he got fired from The Beatles, or a Lady named Crystal who created her Group 2nd Nature who got fired on the day of The Contract Signing who became TLC. Also, how do you think she felt that Tionne "T-Boz" Watkins felt when she and Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes didn't fight for her.
The biggest problem Five had is that started acting like "Pop Stars" before they became "Pop Stars". Also they believed their own hype. I remember when Debarge was featured in Right On (America's First African American Teen Magazine) and they were so adorable, Black Girls put them on their Walls and lockers at School. They were Big from 1982-1985 but when they stopped coming to rehearsal on time, not to mention James's and Bunny's Drug Addiction (Illegal & Prescription) they slowly went downhill. In Vibe a HIp Hop Magazine, their lives were H@ll, abuse, domestic violence. Older Brother Bobby who was Bisexual ended up in Prison got out and died of AIDS, Brothers Chico & El did time in Prison and El was so desperate for Drugs, he sold his Music Catalogue. Now whenever a Hip Hop Group samples his Music he doesn't get paid.
WHY WASNT JENNY FROST APART OF THIS FOR ATOMIC KITTEN??? SHE WAS THERE FOR ALL THERE ACTUAL SUCCESS?? thanks for tha upload btw, im in oz and was gutted about missin out!!!
aww i feel bad for sean, i guess he was suffering from some sort of mental illness. but they all should've realized that record execs / simon cowell didn't care about them as people. only about how much money they could make of them.
My sister and i have known abs through our step brother, they use to hang out alot and aleays said hi now and then. Cant say a bad word about him, but it is sad to see five went the way they did
hi i'm from the philippines, and i really want to watch this big reunion. i'm asking a favor please, kindly make the episode 2 available for the philippines, please please..
I never thought she looked fat. She always looked alright to me. I was a Liberty X fan back in the day but I never realised there was a lot of dark stuff going on behind the scenes. They always seemed so happy on TV from what I remember and I watched nearly everything they were on. I wonder if they all knew how serious Michelle's diet pill addiction was? Jessica said on the show she didn't realise but what did the others think?
Yes. Karen Carpenter who died 35 Years Ago this Month thought she was Fat. She had it as a Little Girl but she outgrew it. At Sixteen she did an audition where she sang Looking For Love that sounded like a Burt Bacharach Song. Jim Bettis who owned Magic Wand Records said "This Chubby Girl Can Sing", I don't think he realized the damaging effect he did on her. Also, Karen's Parents were a Pain in The @ss. They felt she and Richard owed them since they moved from Connecticut, to Los Angeles to help them make it. Instead of being proud of their kids, they were needy of their time, attention and money and Mrs. Carpenter was jealous of her daughter the way Cissy Houston was jealous of Whitney Houston's (RIP) success.
I meant to say from TLC. In the US There's a program called Behind The Music and when she talked about how they got screwed over big time bad with their contracts, I cringed. Can you imagine selling a Fifteen Million Copy Album and end up broke?
B*witched I went to see them once in concert at the height of their fame. Out of a 3 hour concert we had 2 hours of support acts and 1 hour of B*witched. I think they had about 8 or 9 support acts and after about the 6th support act fans were not happy
I always hated Sean when 5ive was popular. Always found him annoying. After watching this docuseries, I hate him even more. He was all fine saying he hated everyone but when Jay "hated" him, it's all suddenly so awful??? Also, he auditioned for The Voice and got rejected, ha!
Did you know that in the 1980's Menudo The Latin World's Biggest Boy Band that Ricky Martin started out in signed a 30 Million Dollar US Deal with RCA's Latin Division. Many of them came out of their celebrity with "Nothing" which is kind of sad considering that Old School Albums and Memorabellia were still being sold.
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Jason "J" Brown is the best singer in 90's, it is a huge pity what happened. 😥
If I had a wish it would be to have 5 never have problems and always work well together to keep making music I miss them so much!
Simon cowell bled five dry. Seriously. 1D Made about 20million each. Five i dont think they even got 1 million each.
@@abdulmumin6251 Look at what happened to N'Sync in The Boy Band Con Documentary that Lance Bass did. N'Sync are finally enjoying the fruits of their labours after three years and are finally given their Royalty Check. It was only $10,000.00 US which was a joke. They sued Lou Pearlman got out of the Contract but alot of Groups got shafted. TLC sells a 10 Million Copy Album and still declare bankruptcy and The Bay City Rollers to this day never got paid.
@Skunky Stinkerson What happened to Abz Love? Will it be mentioned in this ep? Lol
No matter how many times I watch this ep (it’s been a few brings me comfort) all I take from it is that Sean disliked everyone, and then jsut complained throughout. He lied about what happened with Jay (who confirmed it when he filmed his own episode) and then during the reunion he didn’t like anything and was always yelling. Everyone was so professional except for him
Unpopular opinion; Five are not Five without Jay. Bringing back Sean instead of Jay was a HUGE mistake. You will never change my mind
J didn't want to take part, but Sean did
I remember watching this at the time, I didn't know how revolutionary it was because I wasn't born in the 90s, but now looking back I'm realising how rare and unprecedented it was
Richie's impression of Simon Cowell is spot on. Lol.
Now this is the reality worth watching. Thanks to these super stars.for sharing apart of there lives we would never get to hear about.
JUST SEEN MYSELF .......7.32 mins into this programme about TO GO INTO 5ive audition.
Far right hand side with a skin head hahaha THATS ME!!
Green cardigan behind Sean at 7:34?
You should talk about that experience! So interesting
Simon Cowell was there and I just thought he was a random odd guy with a bad hair cut and a high waist line 🤣🤷♂️
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The next show needs to have:
1-SUGABABES (original members)
2-MYSTEEQ
3-HEARSAY
4-S CLUB 7
5-JLS
6-CLEOPATRA
PRINCESS DeeDee it would be a good show but dont see it happening
@@Vixenbeach123 At least These Groups did it. In The US it would never happen. For some of them, their relationship is so hostile they won't even be in the same Room together. Eden's Crush (US Popstars), O-Town, 3LW (Three Little Women), Dream, Play. Did you see the Documentary about Lou Pearlman, that sicko perv who did his Acts dirty. Can you imagine working for Three Years then finally getting the Fruits of your labors and getting a Check for only $10,000.00 (US) when you sold millions and finding out that you had one of the Worst Contracts known to Mankind.
I think Five Star would be a good one too.
laminage yup
The original Sugababes are back together and supposed to release new music next year
So Scott was the reason the band broke up and then was complaining that he'd been trying to bring it back unsuccessfully and blames it on J, what a nice dude!
Right!!?
not surprised.
I love how Abz is a countryside guy. Abz on the farm was an awesome show.
I'm an American that knows very little of these once famous Pop Bands. I recall seeing their band names on teeny bopper magazines back in the day but would only read a bit. Also I do recall hearing 5ive and BWitched on American pop radio back in 1999 2001 I think
So I'm gonna check out this special mainly for the tea and shade
Never used to like Ritchie back then, but today's Ritchie looks really, really hot!
I think it was the 90s hair style?
Shocked by all the "poor Sean" comments. He seems bitter and unhinged.
Honestly such an amazing show. There are a lot of songs from these pop bands I listened to as a kid. It makes you wonder... "What happened to those pop bands?" Something I have asked myself. What happened to the A*teens? They were huge back in the early 2000s and late 1990s.
A*teens disbanded in 2005. Since then the members of A*teens has been doing well for themselves. Maria was a judge on the x factor sweden and now she is a mother. Sara has shun the spotlight in order to be a mother but she had said that she is open for a reunion, the boys i cant remember their names but i do know that one of them is a DJ and one of them is a music producer.
When five were Interviewed by Carson Daly they had no idea that they were meeting one of America's Top Music Hosts. Besides doing Total Request Live (A Segment On MTV New York) where The Backstreet Boys acknowledged that AJ McLean was in Rehab he also introduced TLC at The MTV Awards after the the death of Lisa Left Eye Lopes who now is a successful Morning Anchor at Today on NBC (National Broadcasting Company) and the Host of The Voice (US).
Rich didn't age.at.all! And I just fell in love with Abs all over again haha!
I feel for Michelle. It’s a hard decision. She might have been extra in her time, but I would never wish bad things on her.
This is a great show. I was born in the mid nighties so have limited memory of these acts, but it's interesting hearing what life is like post-stardom for those who left the music industry. It's actually pretty poignant in places.
Absolutely! Look at what happened with Jon Knight of New Kids On The Block. When they Broke up, he woke up and looked around the Family house and saw how quiet it was. No Groupies, Hangers On, etc. He got depressed haed to take meds, and go to therapy. He didn't come out at the time, and that may have affected him. He's done very well for himself as a House Flipper and is married to a Man named Harley.
i was born in 1999 and i love the music from the late 90s -early 2000s. i know all of these bands execpt for Honeyz
@@BettyMareeHOHCountry Only band that never had a number 1
I was born in 1995 and I remember them all except 911 and the Honeyz. 911 were too early for me and I guess Honeyz just passed me by.
Popstars back in the 90s had short life spans because they were signed on by record label based on novelty and good looks which was marketed for the music videos and teenagers. Not saying they are not talented, Im just saying artistry is the one thing they really lacked. The one reason why The Beatles, Michael Jackson, Maddonna et al. are still selling records and appealing to todays generation is because they are true artists. People who can make music that withstands the test of time.
You are so right on! When Eden's Crush (US Popstars 2001), were created it was during the Latin Music Invasion with Mark Anthony (Jennifer Lopez's Ex Husband), Jennifer Lopez herself, Ricky Martin, Shakira (Who Record For Gloria & Emilio Estafan's) Label as well as Enrique Iglesias. Three of Them are Latin (Ana-Maria, Rosanna, & Ivette) while Maile Misajon (Pronounced Mylee Misahon the E is Silent) who is part Irish & Hawaiian, and Nicole Scherzinger who is Russian, Filipino, Hawaiian & Chinese. She was public enemy Number One because like Nadine Coyle in Girls Aloud (UK Popstars), she got alot of leads. She didn't make any Bank off of this group nor The Pussycat Dolls who were called a Prostitution Ring.
Five had terrible people around them. Where was their duty of care. Not 1, but 2 boys wanted out
Yep, J and Abz left, so that means Sean, Ritch and Scott were the ones left as of this year.
I heard that after this episode finished recording, Sean sat outside the studio on the steps and sobbed his heart out. :'( I really wanna give him a massive hug!
Aww, how sad. It kind of reminds me of Jamie Kelly who missed out on being part of New Kids On The Block because he didn't pay attention and listen to what he was told. In the late 1980's and early 1990's he worked as a Truck Driver Shoveling Snow for The City, got his wages and squandered them at the Bars, and had nothing by Monday. Eldridge "Al" Bryant was in The Temptations who got fired in 1963, then the Group goes on to superstardom without him, and in 1968 he sees Otis Williams the only surviving member of the Group and he's a Mess. HIs Clothes are a mess, so is his hair, and he's an alcoholic. He died of Liver disease but in reality he died of a Broken Heart. I would have loved for US Self Help Guru Dr. Phil McGraw or Spiritual Guru Iyanla Vanzant to talk to him. Iyanla "Read" The Girlfriend of Tito Jackson's Son saying "You want to live the Life of Being A Jackson with the Money but it's not there."
+laminage the American music industry can get very lonesome. these dreamers with broken hearts need to understand life isn't all about success, fame and fortune. I live in Southeast Asia, and people here are content on the little things that keep them alive and happy.
You are lucky. The Folks of Asia and India are very spiritual and you live by "Less Is More". Also remember alot of these kids come from Low Income Familes, chances are their Father ran out on them, most don't even finish school so to be told you can go from having nothing to having it all, who'se going to say no to that. Yet nobody teaches them to have a Plan B, be self sufficient and self reliant and when things go bad, they don't know why.
I would actually say everybody in this world is just fortunate to breathe air. Plenty of circumstances define our character, career, etc. but I've always believed that life occupies a greater faculty in between these "defining" moments, such as the basic yet essential acts of walking and eating. This line of thought allows me to cope all the bad stuff.
I've noticed also that a lot of Boy Bands and even Nadine Coyle have owned or run Restaurants. It's nice to know they could have a life outside of Show Business.
Liberty X were better than Hearsay
They had "Better" Songs.
100%
Liberty X should have won popstars. I mean i dont know a lot of Hear'say songs all i know is that one of the Hear'say members married Lisa Scott from steps.
Truth
They certainly were!
When you are a Young Lad from A Council Environment and you're told that you're going to be the next big thing and of course you're going to believe it. Lou Pearlman did the same thing with his Proteges as well putting them in a house.
Looking back Liberty X was so lucky especially when you saw that Phixx (The Popstars: The Rivals) Rejects, didn't make it and the same thing happened with LMNT which consisted of a Former Boy Band Member of O-Town and a couple of other "Rejects". Ikika who left O-Town admitted that Lou Pearlman (That Perv) wanted him to be his "Boy". In a Vanity Fair Interview, many young men admitted they went into his Room thinking he would make them superstars and of course he didn't.
You could tell that Liberty X was struggling even though they were big and it just makes my heart happy that they stayed in touch with each other even after the band broke up.
AWESOME !! i discovered the prog searching 3T band (MJ nephews) videos and found The Big Reunion second season...
What I wouldn't have given for someone from a Past Boy Band to sit their Butts down and tell them "This isn't going to last forever." The Jackson Five & Osmonds found that out the hard way.
how did i not know about this??? honeyz' end of the line was my jam back then. and b*witched and 5ive were so much fun.
and ritchie seemed to be the level-headed person in 5ive
Liberty X seem like a nice bunch of people
Haya Glamazon who cares
I think liberty x 911 n blue were the nicest bunch out of big reunion series 1 five atomic kitten honezy n bwitched nasty xxxx
They were also very lucky because even though they weren't initially "chosen" they got a second chance. In The US alot of folks tried to form another Boy Band and it never went far. LMNT consisted of Bryan Chan, Mike Miller who were Two Rejects from O-Town and Ikika Kaohano who chose not to be in O Town at the last Minute and Matthew Morrison who also was on The Soap Opera As The World Turns, did Glee and of course worked with Cheryl Ann Tweedy and Oti Mabuse on The Greatest Dancer.
Adam Deacon and Abz make me laugh both in their 30's and still speak street lol
thanks for the upload man - I didn't know about the show until I just happened to see the opening credits of episode 5 when channel surging :-) time to play catch up
Looking back they were lucky to do what they did. They got closure, they healed they look back on the past and found out through some humiliating experiences that "Pop Music Giveth, Pop Music Take Away". Also, did any of them come out with anything. I look at The US Pop Groups from O-Town, Eden's Crush, Scene 23 and LMNT (Pronounced Element) which consisted of Two O-Town Rejects and a Young Man named Ikika who was Part White/Part Hawaiian, who although was in O-Town quit and was replaced by a Man named Dan Miller and would never do what these guys did. O-Town got screwed over much worse by Lou Pearlman who launched the Careers of Backstreet Boys & N'Sync and US5. None of them made Bank, in fact one Former O-Town Member Ashley Angel once had a Bank Balance of Negative 25.00 who would later star in Wild Things 4.
What Liberty X were trying to do were "Reinvent" themselves and sadly it doesn't always work out. New Kids On The Block Found that out the hard way. They went from Singing "The Right Stuff" to "Dirty Dawg", they were trying to cash in on The New Jack Swing Movement created by Guy, with Blackstreet (Teddy Riley's Other Group), R. Kelly, Keith Sweat & Bell Biv Devoe and nobody was buying it. In The African American Press, they were vilified along with George Michael (RIP) and Sheena Easton as White Acts who did R & B Influenced Music and having more fame than The Actual Black Singers themselves. In future years they would "diss" Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, and The Backstreet Boys.
Two of 5s members was praised by Simon Cowell for going to jail because of a brawl which led to front page news....😑 that's not a great way to manage and support a group, especially as young as them, if they are to have a long career
Just showing how much they aren't people to record moguls. Just commodities. He wasn't at all concerned with their welfare. Made his millions then when they crash from mental breakdowns or rehab just move on to the next thing. 😡
I've also noticed that Liverpool and Newcastle/Geordie have had alot of Girl Group Icons. Nicola Roberts and Kerry Katona (Girls Aloud & Atomic Kitten) and Cheryl Ann Tweedy Of Girls Aloud.
I thought michelle actually looked beautiful and not fat at all during the Just a Little era
I think everyone thought that
So true
ますます、カッコよくなっている♡Five♡
Before there was One Direction; there was 5ive!
+Aimee Whelan I love BSB and they were more famous than 5ive just because BSB is an american boyband,I really think Five is the most original boyband ever :D
+Aimee Whelan your opinion but 5ive has hit charts in 90's with one the biggest hit that they made. they are more talented than any other boy bands out there. they had made millions with two of their albums before splitting up.
Ya so what 5ive is good too
+Aimee Whelan if u want know who was first boy band it was kid on the block late 80 to early 90 bet u didn't know that! they were singing before bsb band js. I'm 80 baby I should know
+Aimee Whelan Jackson 5 were the next before any boy band out there way before I was born which is Michael Jackson and his sibs were Jackson 5
Simon Cowell has had like 10 lives.
5ive, Leona Lewis, Girl Thing, One Direction
This is why I still feel that Simon Cowell is like that villain in Daft Punk Discovery video clips (One More Time, Aerodynamic, Veridis Quo etc)
dont forget about Westlife.
@@BettyMareeHOHCountry I don't think he did Westlife. Louis Walsh who was a Judge on Popstars The Rivals with Pete Waterman who Simon pestered to get his foot in the door. Kerry Katona's problems and Daniella Westbrook had the worst downfall as far as I'm concerned.
@@laminage He did westlife. that band was his first band to make it big . look it up
Gosh, I miss 5ive. To me they were the only boyband with great music that was appealing to a broader audience.
They weren't as appealing to wider audiences as East 17. Teenage boys liked East 17
@@MVK123 There's no comparison. East 17 was only famous in the UK.
@@jeniestra. I am from Holland. They were HUGE here. A quick Google search will reveal that they were huge in Australia, Europe, Asia... Also, they made and wrote their own music and did not have a marketing force behind them like 5ive did. Teenage boys openly liked them so they were not like Take That for example, they were pretty unique in that sense
@@MVK123 they didn't have the global reach that Five had. Five made it in the US, Latin America and all those markets you mention.
@@jeniestra. Actually East 17 had the more global audience. A quick bit of investigation and you will see that's true. 5ive did not make it in the US. They had one single that reached number 10 ("When the Lights Go Out") and nothing after that. Simon Cowell said on more than one occasion that he wanted "Slam dunk da funk" to remind people of East 17. 5ive were very popular indeed, but in my original comment I was merely commenting on what you said about their ability to capture different types of audiences, that's all. Not doubting their popularity in general.
Ritchie is still cute in the 90s baby tour.. Scott has a dad bod now.. And the bald guy seemed high
Sean
Those days were actually pretty
Love was sincere in those days
Love 5ive still do wish they got back together ❤❤
U can tell Sean just wanted jay to accept him and put him arm round him
love 5ive too bad they not all together they are amazing and most talented guys. love all their music
Abz turned out to be a serious addict, still struggling. Was it worth it?
Thank you for uploading this .. 3 3 3
“Don’t care what it costs! Bring back Jenny Frost! Get rid of that troll again!”
I went to the tour and yea, it sucked that it wasn't Jenny. She had just had twins when they were doing the big reunion which is why they brought back Kerry.
Whatever, but there's no doubt that Whole Again isn't as good as it is with Kerry.
So glad that this is on youtube :)
it appears 'notavailable on your country' but the i already watch the other episodes, thank you so much.. you helped me a lot.. lol
And fives decline is the reason that every band Richard griffiths has managed since (he’s part of modest management) have a lot more time off like for every month worked they get a week or two off, which still isn’t great but it’s better than what previous bands had
Even at age 34; Ritchie is STILL hot!!!! :D still love him!
Michelle never look fat to me sad seeing her self that way so sad bless her hard what she ent through hugsxxx
outsized the Spice Girls with 4 debut number 1??? The Spice Girls had SEVEN consecutive number ones! plus the other hits like goodbye & holler.
Mel Robyn yup
I can’t stop thinking about how the guy from Five has a wife called Kerry with a can I speak to the manager haircut and has a son called Cavern
3/5 members had a mental breakdown and Abs wanted to continue? He would've had an overdose had they continued.
You know what's so quirky. In her Book Kimberley Walsh talked about how she was in The Lineup to audition and Nicola was ahead of her by Two Folks. Menudo The Latin Boy Band was also signed to RCA who had a deal worth 30 Million Dollars which was the biggest deal at that time. However Menudo went through various Group Changes (By Rule) and one of them Miguel Cancel ended up as a Fry Cook at Burger King.
What happened with Liberty X and Hear'Say kind of paralleled The Backstreet Boys and N'Sync. When N'Sync first started out , they were thought of as a ripoff of the Backstreet Boys. Yet look what happened. N'Sync was just as big and when "Gone" came out, it was The Coronation of Justin Timberlake as a Superstar. The UK always had a Market for Boy Bands/Girl Groups but if there was one thing that they had in common with their US Counterparts. They didn't know how to handle their lives after the Fame ended. They were very brave because their US Counterparts would never do a Reunion like that. Eden's Crush, (US Popstars), 3LW, O-Town, Play, Dream, would never share a stage the way these guys did.
laminage yup
The first series was a lot better than series 2.. Better bands
they should do a series 3 and do bands like S club 7, Sugababes, Chipz, A*teens, JLS and Play
I remember watching The Sins Of Archie Mitchell and Janine Butcher (Played By Charlie Brooks) was singing The Liberty X Song and I didn't get it at first. I live in Canada so none of these groups made it in North America, I fell out laughing.
Dear God! These Kids had too much excess too soon and too quick. It seems to me that nobody smacked their hands if need be and say "No!". Better yet, tell them that New Kids On The Block, were once very big they are not now, nor are The Osmonds and if could happen to them, it can happen to you. Each Group averaged around Nine Million Records each. I'm sure for some of them, they were able to get closure while others hoped that this would be a "Comeback".
Poor Sean.. Bullying is no joke
Daisy Flower no*
Hello Bye lol thanks.. its only youtube
Aye, no need.👎. Sure he wasn't perfect himself, but that Jay was 'the hard man' after all. (Took his 'persona' too far by the sound of it)
This Documentary is amazing because it shows that there's no such thing as an overnight success. Simon Cowell would follow Pete Waterman (SAW) like a B@tch trying to get his foot in the Door.
Actually STEPS's Successful Reunion in 2011 have inspired this whole thing...
Unofficial Steps yup
And Take That's Reunion in 2005 inspired Steps
@@matt6582 exactly
Take That's '05 reunion, then Steps Reunion leads to this...
If Liberty X felt bad think about how Pete Best felt when he got fired from The Beatles, or a Lady named Crystal who created her Group 2nd Nature who got fired on the day of The Contract Signing who became TLC. Also, how do you think she felt that Tionne "T-Boz" Watkins felt when she and Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes didn't fight for her.
Abz is Petter Andre lol
It's now been revealed that J didn't bully Sean at all.
Sean sounded like a knob.
I knew sean was lying n scott a twat too xxxx
@@mlpp3621 The way he refers to himself in the third person about finding himself. Its a giveaway sign of a narcissist.
The biggest problem Five had is that started acting like "Pop Stars" before they became "Pop Stars". Also they believed their own hype. I remember when Debarge was featured in Right On (America's First African American Teen Magazine) and they were so adorable, Black Girls put them on their Walls and lockers at School. They were Big from 1982-1985 but when they stopped coming to rehearsal on time, not to mention James's and Bunny's Drug Addiction (Illegal & Prescription) they slowly went downhill. In Vibe a HIp Hop Magazine, their lives were H@ll, abuse, domestic violence. Older Brother Bobby who was Bisexual ended up in Prison got out and died of AIDS, Brothers Chico & El did time in Prison and El was so desperate for Drugs, he sold his Music Catalogue. Now whenever a Hip Hop Group samples his Music he doesn't get paid.
Five always had a problem with each other even in this show you can still see that some of the members still have grudges against each other.
WHY WASNT JENNY FROST APART OF THIS FOR ATOMIC KITTEN??? SHE WAS THERE FOR ALL THERE ACTUAL SUCCESS??
thanks for tha upload btw, im in oz and was gutted about missin out!!!
They don’t really give the Liberty X story much justice. They ignore the success of Song 4 Lovers and what really happened with V2.
I love you Abz ❤️
aww i feel bad for sean, i guess he was suffering from some sort of mental illness. but they all should've realized that record execs / simon cowell didn't care about them as people. only about how much money they could make of them.
My sister and i have known abs through our step brother, they use to hang out alot and aleays said hi now and then. Cant say a bad word about him, but it is sad to see five went the way they did
Sounds like 5 had bad management. Why would you let young boys run amuck like that and have so much conflict. Oh yeh - they wanted the drama
Simon Cowell called to congratulate them on the mess they did. That should tell you the kind of man he is.
Pat Butcher from Eastenders was in Atomic Kitten ? Wow !
Abz love você é tudo de bom!!
My faves were Tash and Ritchie! Glad they are together!
me too I am biggest fan of 5ive ever since I was 10
Shannon Lawler shame Tash & Ritchie split up!
Michelle Heaton never talks about her bandmates. Always about herself.
Typical self-centered annoying attitude of the untalented ones in every pop group (particularly girl groups).
As far as I remember she was always like that. I was a huge fan of Liberty X but for some reason never liked Michelle. She used to really annoy me
hi i'm from the philippines, and i really want to watch this big reunion. i'm asking a favor please, kindly make the episode 2 available for the philippines, please please..
Michelle wasn't even fat though 😐
I know pisses me off when skinny girls say they are fat.
I never thought she looked fat. She always looked alright to me. I was a Liberty X fan back in the day but I never realised there was a lot of dark stuff going on behind the scenes. They always seemed so happy on TV from what I remember and I watched nearly everything they were on. I wonder if they all knew how serious Michelle's diet pill addiction was? Jessica said on the show she didn't realise but what did the others think?
Yes. Karen Carpenter who died 35 Years Ago this Month thought she was Fat. She had it as a Little Girl but she outgrew it. At Sixteen she did an audition where she sang Looking For Love that sounded like a Burt Bacharach Song. Jim Bettis who owned Magic Wand Records said "This Chubby Girl Can Sing", I don't think he realized the damaging effect he did on her. Also, Karen's Parents were a Pain in The @ss. They felt she and Richard owed them since they moved from Connecticut, to Los Angeles to help them make it. Instead of being proud of their kids, they were needy of their time, attention and money and Mrs. Carpenter was jealous of her daughter the way Cissy Houston was jealous of Whitney Houston's (RIP) success.
Surah Online Michelle dukes of a goat 🐐 did you hear 👂😂😂👍
An amazing Documentary
i preferred liberty x over the group that made it.
The main theme song. No title known, but it's by the Audio Freaks.
I had no idea that Atomic Kitten were from Liverpool and that's where Nicola Roberts of Girls Aloud is also from Liverpool.
She's from Runcorn
5IVE & BEWITCHED!!!!!
How's episode 2 not available there? I'll try re-uploading it and tell me if it's still not OK, all right?
I wish that someone from Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes (RIP) could have talked to these kids. They weren't ready for it. It was too much.
What? Someone from Lisa Lopes?
I meant to say from TLC. In the US There's a program called Behind The Music and when she talked about how they got screwed over big time bad with their contracts, I cringed. Can you imagine selling a Fifteen Million Copy Album and end up broke?
B*witched I went to see them once in concert at the height of their fame. Out of a 3 hour concert we had 2 hours of support acts and 1 hour of B*witched. I think they had about 8 or 9 support acts and after about the 6th support act fans were not happy
They are rumoured to take part in the next series actually I have read on Wikipedia.
Sad to see Jay putting Sean down with snide remarks.
I always hated Sean when 5ive was popular. Always found him annoying. After watching this docuseries, I hate him even more. He was all fine saying he hated everyone but when Jay "hated" him, it's all suddenly so awful??? Also, he auditioned for The Voice and got rejected, ha!
I'll have the second episode up today as well
Johnny Mac best thing ever loading these episodes many thanks xxx
@@tay_h3873 Belated Thanks Johnny Mac. With The Exception of B*Witched I didn't know any of these Groups.
This was my childhood i liked the honeyz
Been back for a while as S Club Party - just Bradley, Paul and Jo.
Not the most talented and sharpest bunch in the industry but this show looks entertaining for the drama.
I used to have the hugest crush on J back then. I remember collecting stickers that had J's face on 'em.
love sean dan love jay so much , love love love sean so kind of guys , and jay get back together jay i love u both guys :) pls back
Did you know that in the 1980's Menudo The Latin World's Biggest Boy Band that Ricky Martin started out in signed a 30 Million Dollar US Deal with RCA's Latin Division. Many of them came out of their celebrity with "Nothing" which is kind of sad considering that Old School Albums and Memorabellia were still being sold.
laminage No one gives a shit!
Maybe you don't but it shows Pop Music give
and take away
Abs from five needs to lay off the drugs he looks awful
Agree. He looked way better back then.
Five i love them