My Bike got knocked over at Elephant and Castle where it was parked in t bike bay at Southbank Uni of which I was a student. I asked the security to look at them to find out who had knocked my bike over and they refused point blank to even look. That was in 2010 I realised that the cameras were not for our benefit.
Sympathy right at ya. Some wax knocked my CBR 600 over when i parked it in a multi-storey to get it out the sunshine (the one day we had that year) Huge puddle of Petrol on the floor making lifting it up without slipping on the painted petrol soaked floor and causing a spark quite exhilarating for someone whos got two blown discs in their back. Car park security did nothing as the office was locked up and in darkness. I think actually, That was the last day i rode the bike, That moment showed me i shouldnt be riding heavy bikes in my condition. Its now being rebuilt as a Turbo charged 90's Street fighter/Bloodrunners type thing. Ill probably never finish it as ive got no goal, I cant ride it.
who did you ask --- i have no idea who owns, operates them or where the data is stored. If you ask the Police they will say nothing to do with them and they dont have any access to film or data, so no you want get anywhere.
Where I used to live a shop trader asked to see CCTV footage of damage to her shop front. Turns out the cameras didn’t work and never had as there was no one to monitor them and yet she had been charged for years by the local council for coverage.
Hi Funk the cameras were highly likely covered by a legal clause that only the operator or police were permitted to view recorded footage. It’s even tighter to get footage now with commercial outfits and certain domestic systems needing ICO registration (Information Commissioner’s Office) who are pretty much a wealth drain organisation.
Geoff you are 100% correct. Incidentally, during the first year of the toilet roll crisis, I worked as an agency nurse around the north of England, covering various stretches of the A1 and A1M. Loads of cameras went up during that first year on the entrances and exits of the A! in the North East of England and they were absolutely facial recognition. I tried to warn people and no one would believe what they thought was a crazy idea. So..... imagine when every town, village, service station, port and motorway entrances and exits all have facial recognition cameras.... then imagine how they'll enforce future lockdowns and travel limitations to save the planet or other globalist guff? This has long been the plan and whilst we are all speculating and debating what the f is going on, there really is no need: it is all in black and white in the United Nations and WEF's Agenda documents but sadly very few take the time away from football and love island to see for themselves.
Well said I still can't believe the laziness in people to not look up these things for themselves like you said they are telling us but people aren't listening.
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They're trying to say it's to get EV owners to pay, what's the betting they don't remove the fuel duty and make anyone with ICE vehicles pay per mile and fuel duty
@@michaellewis5934 Anything [They] say will be a lie of some sort. 'Make Someone else pay' is Divide & Conquer in action. Don't believe a word of it. It's for whomever they arbitrarily decide it's for.
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I've just subscribed. Your videos have kept popping up on my feed for a while. I wondered why cos I'm not really that bothered about cars :) but then I listened to you and realised.. i'm a conspiracy realist too, and i have to say you're the type of person who makes me proud to be English :) this year and last year i drove around for a few months without tax or insurance not meaning to with the tax and due to an error with the insurance, it took them months to send me any correspondence and when they did it was letters telling me to just sort it out please. I believe you are right there are more nefarious plans at work
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I had a customer drop off a brand new tow truck to my auto electrical shop to fix a couple of things that had failed at the pit inspection (New South Wales Australia) at the Roads And Traffic Authority. We did the repairs and I was driving it back to the owner, I had a highway car following me and he pulled me over. He was going to book me for no registration and no third party (mandatory insurance), he had my licence and was about to start writing the ticket, when I made the comment that he could not book me for uninsured as my workshop policy covered us as we are not to know if a vehicle is insured. He said well" I'll book you for unregistered ",but I then stated a vehicle can be driven to and from a workshop for repairs if it failed the inspection. By this time I could see he was starting to seeth. But the icing on the cake was the vehicle was sign written and belonged to a person this copper hated.
I accidentally drove around for 3 months with no insurance when the insurance company cancelled the wrong policy.... I only found out as I broke down in a bad spot and a lovely police lady told me... I explained the situation and luckily had two other cars that were insured that she checked on. She used her amazing thought to realise it was simply an oversight and had me buying insurance at the side of the road whilst the RAC turned up... And when the guy came over to me he asked "are you doing a bit of online shopping" and I said yes.... For insurance 😮
Snap.... I drrive many vehicles that don't have tax or mot nor insurance for my customers. I am insured not the vehicles, providing the vehicle is in roadworthy enough conditions my policy allows me to drive anything The cameras are to monitor people's movements
@@evelghostrider YUP !!! Only for monitoring ........ I've traded 19 years or 2 decades next year and have trade plates since year one, I use them just over once per month but do 20,000 miles per annum. All the trade cars get driven in day hours back towards my trading premises ( booked into MOT on paper - obviously not , not troubling the MOT man, but that makes them legally travelling to an MOT station untaxed 'legally' and all that )..... I never get letters of no tax nor stopped, and are not on MID database for 14 days and untaxed and no trade plates in window. Where got a letter no tax would confirm broke down getting MOT station on date , never got there. NO letters so never display plates.... If I go central London I'd prob use plates. I don't.. So I dont ( take the plates )
I don't believe anything in this video is evidence they aren't ANPR cameras. The offence of driving without insurance is the DRIVERS offense. Not the owners. Doesn't matter if they are ANPR cameras or not, if they are fixed cameras (on a gantry or bridge etc) they are unable to prove who was driving when it pinged, so they can't issue a fine. As for the road tax, as long as it isnt sorn (which I assume you hadn't done when driving around) they won't fine unless it's been over a month. For example, my tax runs out end of June, if I drive it in July without taxing or sorning the vehicle, then tax it before 1st Aug, i have actually paid for the full month of July. If you have SORN the vehicle it's a different matter and you can be fined as either the driver or owner.666ur I'll
Hi Geoff , a few years ago I received a letter from the dvla about driving without road tax . My number plate was picked up on my journey from bedfordshire to east Yorkshire . The car was on the back of a transporter 😂
I had a similar letter in 1996 for not displaying a valid disk (it was in the sunshade area of the windscreen, so visible, but you had to look carefully). Drove to the local DVLA office (remember them?) where the fine was recinded and I was advised to shift it so that it was more visable.
@@redsidebiker Some years ago (1980s) I was based in RAF Germany and came back to see my parents over Christmas. I parked my British Forces Germany registered car in my hometown, in a parking space opposite a main post office. When I came back a traffic warden was standing in front of the car, writing out a ticket. I asked if it was for my car and if so, what for? She said it was because it wasn’t displaying a tax disc. I explained that it wasn’t registered in U.K. but in Germany, hence the different number plate (black plate with white printed numbers). She was having none of it and said as far as she was concerned it needed to be taxed to be driven in U.K. roads and she continued to write and stuck the ticket on the windscreen. I was really annoyed and I drove straight round to the local police station and asked them for advice. After I explained the situation the duty sergeant pointed to the waste paper bin and suggested I made use of it. He told me that the traffic warden was so keen to issue tickets to car owners not displaying a tax disc that at the end of every month she waited for them to take the old disc into the post office (as drivers needed to do) to buy a new one……then she’d nip over and ticket them!
i would say 80% are ringers, so many of them are sold on facebook...almost not worth buying genuine...also dont forget the trade plate in the window = invincibility to the law
I got scammed by a fake insurance website pretending to be a well known website. When I did the road tax a page flashed up about insurance and then skipped to the next bit of the process and it taxed.. 9 months later I bought a brand new car and tried to cancel the remaining insurance to find it didn’t exist… I had been all over the uk, all along the M4 into Wales, to Bournemouth during Tory conference , Heathrow… my local roundabouts have ANPR as the data was used in local planning applications This was 4 years ago… absolutely no detection
I'm glad [They] in America are behind schedule. Actually, we have the constitutional right to travel. A 'driver' is someone engaged in commerce. Sooner or later, we Americans will all put a stop to all this vehicle registration, driver's license, tag nonsense. Some have already legally sorted themselves out. Their plate # is "EXEMPT". It all boils down to the fraud that we live under common law, not the admiralty law that is actually enforced. It's extortion for money, plain and simple.
This is what happens with computerized "paperless systems"! If you have a piece of paper in your hand confirming date of payment etc of your car insurance or Road Tax, like we used to have, there would be no confusion. Great video, Geoff - thoroughly enjoyed it.
We have ANPR cameras locally ,The daughter in law was driving around for 4 months completely oblivious to the fact she had no MOT.never heard anything about it & that was several years ago.
I tried to report several cars too the DVLA for being used with no valid MOT. The DVLA said "Report it to the Police", so I contacted Essex Police, and they said "Report it to Essex County Council". So I contacted Essex County Council, and guess what they said, "Report it to the Police". This is the Gods honest truth. This goes to prove that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
I have a friend who has driven in Sweden in the most criminal areas of Stockholm for 15 years with no license, no tax, no MOT and he is yet to be stopped a single time.
Seems old Jeremy Clarkson was years ahead of us all ? Remember the bullet train race ? Bill Oddie face mask 😉 . I suggest Sadik Khan or kier Starmer might be very popular choice 😅😂😅😂
I always laughed at idiots wearing covid masks when driving in a car on their own. Seems like it will be standard procedure now, but its now an anti-recognition mask...
Reminds me of when I was walking through my local car park in 2021 a woman wearing a mask and on her own was driving her car up and down looking for a space."She's not taking any chances with her health" I thought to myself (Sarc). Soon she pulled into a space a little ahead of me and as I was passing she ripped off the mask and lit a cigarette!
@@MrDavil43 I’ve seen that a guy two masks on buy tool station lifting his mask up too have a drag of his fag 😂I just burst out laughing my words were you F-ing idiot
The dvsa absolutely use those cameras for enforcement on hgv’s, a very friendly officer was able to tell me my journey times from the port I entered in to where I was stopped and even where I had my break
I get my MOTs done in Glasgow which is 100 miles away. In 2016 it failed due to floorpan corrosion. When Fred got it retested I went to collect but I decided to drive home without road tax as it was near the end of the month and my intention was to tax it from the next month. About a week later I received a £290 for driving an untaxed sorned car I think it was flagged by a mobile ANPR camera near the Balloch roundabout. The good news is I pointed out to the DVLA that an untaxed car can be driven to and from an MOT and got the fine canceled.
Glad I looked this up before trying to call you a numpty! Had no idea you could drive an untaxed car to a pre-arranged appointment at a test centre, I thought that rule only applied to cars with an expired MOT. If plod or the DVLA desk jockeys could be arsed they would try and get you with the time/date and travel direction as in your case it would be driving back after the car eventually passed, hopefully you managed to sneak out of it!
@@sarcastixx74 The rules are reasonably clear driving directly to and from an MOT even driving from (Thurso to Newquay), and driving to a garage to get the repairs done. I also think common sense should be used I wouldn't expect to get away with 4 baldy tyres in that case I think removing the wheels and dropping them off would be correct.
They have them in Australia as well. The idea is to ‘see inside’ peoples cars. There are a number of ways you can do this thermal vision is obviously pretty common but not too useful as the engine and metal body causes interference. You can use infrared red to see through plastic and other oil based products (as Sony accidentally released a camera once that could see through synthetic clothes). You can also use radio waves to see through cars but not great for people’s health which is why they don’t make you go through the baggage machine at airports. You can also use radiation but that’s even more worse. And there is a couple other ways. Mostly you find the better something is at ‘seeing through’ something the worse it is for living things
They are for ANPR, when theres a detection police are sent not letters home. This is particularly useful for if there's a stolen vehicle or vehicle related to a crime they don't really send out many for insurance or road tax readings unless its a slow day.
Mate your bang on, where i live there are so many cameras it's a joke, yet i drove my car about without mot for over 6 months, no comebacks, it was only when my tax ran out, i see my mot had run out too. Thanks for the content.
Big Brother will be watching you ! 15 min. cities ! Bow your head when the loaded elite come along ! That is why the roads are in such bad way , in their armour plated Sad Utility Vehicles [ SUV's ] their chaffeur can whizz over them , avoiding the great unwashed ! [ the average person ] ! Oh well they know what's best [ is the attitude most people will take ! I am glad i am not any younger as we seem to be heading back to the time before mount Tambora went up ! KEEP UP THE GREAT VIDS. .
The ANPR cameras will trigger police post up in the area to scan for no insurance in the following days, if not a few hours later when you ping for no insurance. It happened to me! I had temp insurance that ran out while I was in Leicester and they were looking for me on the way out.
I drove for six months without road tax, totally oblivious to that fact. I only found out when the DVLA clamped my van on the front, it's usually on the drive, my Son parked there whilst I was out. Road tax is purely a DVLA thing now, Police not involved at all (Told this by a Copper) so unless you park on a road, and just keep moving, you are very unlikely to be bothered by it all.
Yes. All police can do is report you to the dvla for no tax - by the time they've done that you can get it taxed (new car you're driving home for example)
Police used cctv to recover stolen bikes. About 10 years ago (in North Yorkshire) a friend had his garage emptied of expensive mountain bikes. He'd been to an mtb event the day before. He told the police this & they looked at cctv footage of his van (interesting jdm van, as it goes: Toyota Granvia 4x4 3.0td auto) leaving the event (around 60mls from his home) a Silver Zafira was behind him. They then looked at cctv at various points on his route home to see the Zafira still behind him. The car was traced & although not all the bikes were recovered. It was very encouraging how hard the police tried. I'm with you on the camera theory btw. But, credit where credit is due! 😅
Dec 23, i realised that i had been trundling around with no road tax on my campervan for four months. My vehicles have always been insured and taxed in my 50 years of driving. I never recived a remined form through the post as we normally get, and of course no tax disc in my windscreen to remind me either. Not that I would have been believed had I'd been stopped by police.
Facial recognition would explain those huge infrared floodligths, when used in flash mode for photos those LED lights are bright as the sun. Exactly what's needed for sharp images and moving objects that need very short shutter times.
Someone who is me (anytime you read a forum post that starts with "someone who isn't me/SWIM") Once drove a car without road tax for a year It was a £20 a year road tax bracket Went through many places with ANPR.
I think there could be a claim against the government for being sexist. After all it seems facial recognition will unfairly target men. Women wear make up and to be honest it won't be the first time that I woke up and did not recognise the woman next to me, so how will the facial recognition software be able to. Lol
They're also racist. Been proven that they have limited ability to discern the differences in people of darker skin. There are SO MANY reasons why this scheme is flawed and unethical but, they're going to push ahead anyway.
A few years ago had a letter from the local constabulary enquiring as to why my car was driven with no insurance on a specific day. The car had no insurance as it had been off the road for a while awaiting repair. I was able to inform the local constabulary that on said day the car would have been driven from a specific Garage to a specific MOT Station by the Garage repair mechanic. I received a reply stating that said information tied in with their report and all was well. There are cameras on the given route and that`s what I assumed it had to be.
greetings from Wales m8. just watched a couple of ur vids on another device ( I dont wont u t think I'm a fly-by-night). I drove an old derv Punto mk 2 for nearly 12 months with no road tax cos of a blunder by DVLA (and a bit of of one from me too) and only got pulled when a jam butty followed me back from a hospital appointmnt. I paid th fine and th lovely copper didn't seize our crusty old Fiat. there are good coppers out there. those things flashing green on yer ffon are pollution checkers I bet cos they face th tail pipes. keep on trucking.
The reason that there are so many untaxed and uninsured drivers on the road is because insurance is a scam. Go and sign Mark McCann's petition against the illegal practices of the insurance industry in their sales and pricing.
@@Revup1 already done. My insurance was £800 last year and it went up to £1800 this year. Just like that and after shopping around cheapest I could get was £1600. 40y old with clean licence and over 20y NCB.
I knew someone whose car was insured, but not taxed for about 4 years. They just forgot about it, thinking it was auto renewed every year. Never stopped, never paid it. Sold the car eventually. Nothing happened.
Fun fact: a constable does not require insurance; and a person _acting under the direction of a constable_ does not require insurance. If the police catch you without insurance they can tell you to drive home and you are legal to do it.
Kamala Harris's newly-proclaimed running mate Tim Walz, while governor of Minnesota, brought in legislation to GIVE driving licences to ALL illegal immigrants. I kid you not - go and search.
@@AnnieRed66 You've driven in Bradford then. Just pulled up behind a car at roundabout, it was in right hand lane, with left indicator on... guess what, she turned right round the roundabout.
@Macwy1 Haven't been to Bradford in years, but Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire are no better...and the M1, well I think the M stands for mayhem!
I drove for a full year length & breadth of the Country with an insurance policy with one letter wrong on registration..completely by accident didn’t notice until renewal…didn’t get pulled over once when surely car should of pinged with police cars with ANPR as no insurance 🤷♂️
As I commented on your other video, the cameras are very high quality, but pretty much universal as to what they can be used for. It all depends on what software is used to process the images, and there is a lot more stuff in them than just a camera, so they can be used for way more than the older models.
Sydney..the tunnels in and out of the city are fitted with a system for the toll charges..Every vehicle is charged the fee automatically using a digital system ..its direct debited ....im assuming its the same in London with Ulez?. Its definitely facial recognition..
The ANPR camera around are NOT for tax/insurance monitoring. They're also not fully monitored. It's a system set up so they can search for a suspect vehicle by checking the reg on the ANPR system and it will tell them what area it was last flagged through the system. They can also input a concern registration into the ANPR and it will instantly alert them when it goes through a camera so they can send police units to intercept.
From my experience, as a young lad who does spirited drives, you are completely correct, these cameras do nothing, I know a plethora of individuals who attend car meets, do spirited/dangerous driving, and drive on the daily, with vehicles that are not insured, taxed, and or have a valid MOT, who rarely ever get caught out, unless spotted directly by police, it's amazing to me that our tax money, is being used on camera's that are not beneficial in any sense. My personal opinion is that while these are ANPR camera's, they do not directly communicate with any police force that a vehicle is uninsured, un-taxed, does not have a valid mot, and in some cases I've witnessed individuals driving vehicles that are not even registered, or are SORN, with no punishment, driving past these "ANPR" cameras with no consequences. I have contemplated at times if its worth the risk, of course I haven't taken this risk personally, but its quite worrying to think that these cameras are not doing anything, let alone the local police forces. These cameras also don't track speed or the use of a mobile phone, as I've witnessed this being demonstrated by other drivers. From personal account, the only use these cameras appear to have is to essentially track a vehicles whereabouts, again this is useful if someone is actively evading the police, but other than that, they have been used, in the event of a report, to prosecute against dangerous driving, all in all these are essentially anpr cameras, that are also cctv cameras, that are close to useless, aside from specific use cases, which are rarely ever met.
They are but not linked to DVLA, only police. I got caught doing 48 on a variable speed limit on the M27. Got a fine, which I didn't pay, but no mention of no tax.
@@spaceskipster4412 I ignore everything. Haven't paid council tax since January 23 and energy bills since April 22. Everything goes in the shredder. I can afford to pay but it's the principle. When I see billions spent on wars and other things that have no benefit for ordinary working people, then I'm making a stand. Everyone should do it rather than wrecking cities. Oh, I always forget about TV licence as haven't paid that for years but then I stopped watching TV altogether.
It may be that with the road tax that the previous owner hadn't yet applied for their refund on the tax they will have paid, up until then it will still show on the database that tax is held for that vehicle hence why no letters. When you get your next renewal notice you could leave it and wait for the tax to expire then drive up and down to London and see what happens.
@@Lostmy10mm They are just standard ANPR cameras. What they do with them is up to the software. Currently they are usually used to track cars with no tax/MOT/Insurance/used in crime/markers for drugs/organised crime, etc.
A number of people have testimony from their own experience. They’re not doing what you say. I don’t doubt there are many ANPR devices. But those aren’t recognised as ANPR by several people who’ve a professional reason to know.
Came across this on Howdens insurance website: “Again, it’s important to remember that Police Automatic Number Plate Recognition cameras will provide evidence that could result in fines, whereas the Highways Agency ANPR Cameras are just used to manage traffic flow.” This would on the surface make sense, as in order for computers to judge traffic, each car needs to be identifiable within the computer algorithm. Using number plates and existing ANPR would also make sense as the easiest solution. That doesn’t mean all the conspiracy theories are wrong though. Because the technology could easily be used for all the other reasons suggested. Cornwall Council also has a great Highway CCTV and ANPR privacy notice page. This answers a lot of questions. But again it comes down to whether we trust they don’t share that data and that they will continue not to share that data.
Please dont link the camera to the software and databases that sit behind it. Any camera can read a number plate or take a picture of a face. Thats what they do. If the camera operator is the police they have access to the dvla, pnc data etc so can check shit like tax or mot. If the camera is operated by the local council then they dont have access to the same info as the police and cant do the same things police can. If the camera is operated by a 3rd party like a car park camera then they can only get very little data from paying the dvla for the registered keepers details. Context of who runs the camera is important to understand its capability
i went around for about 4 months in and around london even went to the Ace Cafe without insurance! (due to a computer error on the insurance company) nothing happend i only found out cause i wanted to change vehicles on my policy and found that i could not access it and it was not shoing up on the insurance data bace. i decided to switch insurance companys after the year ended
I got pulled 2:30am this morning as the car’s registered to Grantham and I was in Nottingham 40 miles away. Was just leaving work after dropped my mate off. Knew the car was okay even recorded it just annoying. Said to them people do commute for work and work night shift 🤦🏾
LEZ cameras on the A3 into London work. I was working in SW London in 2019 and commuting weekly. On one occasion, I took my 2001 camper there. Sure enough, £500 fine.
In NL they use all the camera's to spot traffic jams, accidents, objects on the road, etc. They also use license plate recognition but they get so many hits that they only go after the big guys... But the real big guys use the tactics you mentioned.
Those 4 square lower lights are powerful infrared lighting to enable cameras to take high quality images of every driver and vehicle. The reason they don’t sit in a line is because they light up a large area. It won’t be long before everybody will use a mask when they drive, as they already do in Japan.
The road tax thing you mention. If you buy a car that was taxed at the point of sale, even if the change of ownership is done on line; the tax status does not change immediately. Neither will you be asked to tax the car until the month has expired. I bought a car and drove it, the vehicle was taxed at the point of sale. Ownership was changed on line. I had a very long journey home and three and a half hours later the vehicle broke down. I used a well known motoring organisation to get me home. The woman on the phone said when I reported the breakdown, asked me to wait whilst she checked if the vehicle was taxed, it came back as taxed and I got home; even though I didn’t tax it when I bought it. It was not until the end of the month, did I get a tax reminder. So maybe even though the tax isn’t transferred any more, the vehicle must still show as taxed for the remaining part of the month. True story. So that is why you didn’t get reported for driving without tax, because the system still had the vehicle as being currently taxed.
Yellow tends to be for speeding and average speed ANPR. Black or silver cased (MAV Systems Ltd) are council and Department of Transport data collection. Temporary ANPR mounted on a antenna mast are census by private companies. All camera upload data to a server with base64 images of the full car in colour and numberplate in black / white due to having a IR filter on the camera.
@@simonshee5155 when considering new developments, housing maybe or a new attraction, something requiring permission and technical amendments to road layout for a new junction....thst sort of thing, a traffic survey of volumes speeds, etc may be required. Useful to then take parameters for design of junctions, roundabout capacity, right turn lane necessity...etc
In lockdown we only used 1 car our 14 plate DS3 I put my 09 Saab 93 Sportwagon on SORN as it was outside.on a private cul-de-sac I left it insured on the off chance it was nicked etc as I've had 2 cars stolen previously Anyway 1 day after giving it a clean I went to the garage & supermarket in it. Within a month or so I got a letter from the DVLA saying I had no tax I etc, as it was sorn etc but as a 1 off I just back taxed to the start of the month rather than risk DVLA turning up & clamping it So the ANPR cameras that are mounted allover do work not just all attached to 330d,s on Police traffic car's.
My amusing police story. I bought an ex Audi car (S3) that was 6 months old. B4 I bought it I realised it had been used on Car Wow and a few other UA-cam chans. One day I'd picked up my eldest son from school in St.Albans and was on my way to pick up my youngest son from his school just outside Harpenden. On the way 2 interceptor police cars (Jag & BMW) flashed passed in the opposite direction and I commented to son 1 that they looked like they were on a mission. A few minutes later I spotted them closing up on me at a rate of knots. Like Geoff, my spidey senses told me I was about to get pulled. I was just about to take a short cut by the golf club. I indicated right and they both followed..as the blue lights came on I indicated left and the first car flashed past and cut in front of me whilst the car behind half pulled out to lock me in. 3 policemen ran out of each car as I wound the window down with a mystified look on my face. The first policeman to get to my car said "Your car's just been used in a robbery!"..they quickly realised I was innocent and we pulled into the golf club car park whilst they 'moddified' my number plates. They were very nice cops and we had a good chat. Nothing happened for about 18 months until I started getting summons for using a bus lane in a part of London I'd never been to and not paying for a Dartford crossing. After this I decided to get a cheap private plate..not had any hassle since. 👍🏻😎
@@itchyscratch3829 Yes...luckily the fake car(s) didn't have the black pack or roof rails. After 3 I thought changing the plate for £300 would be the easier option. 👍🏻😎
Funny you mention this because about 9 years back I drove one of my vehicles around for pretty close to a year and 20k miles with no tax or mot. It was insured because that auto-renewed but the rest was due while I was in hospital and it got forgotten about until the next reminder came through the year after. Not a thing. No letter, summons - nothing.
@@siraff4461 it's common sense lol Google it if you don't believe me. You can be done for no insurance even if you have it also for example a delivery driver delivering without business insurance
@@siraff4461 I hate UA-cam deleting comments!! Just google it if you don't believe me 👍 you can be done for no insurance for alot of things even if you have it. For example delivery drivers delivering without business insurance
Gotta agree geoff I picked up a car I'd bought about a two weeks before had the v5 in my name no tax no insurance just not went through numerous anpr cameras. Heard nothing wierd.
An auditor (Reggie) was walking around the city (cant recall where) and was stopped by police and told to remove his face covering or be arrested! The cops quoted section 60.
I'm not a lawyer but ......... From reading the legislation, I'm guessing the face covering was of a scarey appearance, otherwise I don't see how just having a face-covering would fall under the section 60 legislation.
@nearlypastit2385 . The 1700 riot act was repealed 1974 Legislation introduced to replace it.. Includes such a requirement to remove face covering IF REQUIRED by police officer. Of course I guess you need to be in such a position for that to apply. ..of course if behind the wheel..you can wear anything you like such that it doesn't interfere with your vision. Of course if copper asks.. just comply
You can purchase replacement modules that fit in remotes, these are very cheap and run at 1.5 volt and are on the same wavelength as the cameras so if you put 8 of them round your numberplate, hook up to 12 volt battery then they would make your numberplate shine so brightly as to stop it being photographed successfully.
It's not just the roads that are turning into a Big Brother dystopia. Shopping for groceries is too! Went into a Tesco Local last weekend and they were in the process of putting up FR cameras as part of their attempt to tackle shoplifting. Had a good discussion with some of the staff about it and why TESCO have to treat everyone like criminals instead of just hiring more security staff, where is the data stored, with whom, and how long for, who can access it etc. FRT is well known to have it's flaws and to have racial biases as well, but is that stopping it from being rolled out EVERYWHERE at every opportunity by any party that so wishes...? Apparently not! Tesco is not the only offender, numerous other retailers in the UK are using it in their stores. As is often the case, regulation is several years behind the tech and FRT (and ANPR) clearly have insufficient regulation around their usage and are rapidly becoming a very serious problem. These tools should be regulated and ideally only legal to use in very selected situations by the police but instead it seems to be a free for all. SCARY times we are living in!
My hubby complained about cameras in Asda when they first came out and they always default to shop lifting. In my local Waitrose it says 2hrs parking but when I queried it they don’t monitor because the staff park there as well. In fact the person I asked didn’t realise there were any signs. When you are on the road you get to know the best cafes and toilets.
As mentioned before Geoff, I’m sure they’re the infrared enhancers are whatever they might be called. Looks like they’re added after if they weren’t getting visibility needed. Also, if you point an IR remote car key at your non iPhone smart phone camera (something to do with a filter on iPhones that stops it but maybe those camera things are emitting more?) and press lock/unlock you’ll see if flash in a similar way to what you filmed. We use that trick to see if key is sending signal or car isn’t receiving it.
I think you are 100% correct, All CBDC will do is drive any illegal activity underground where goods will be used as 'currency'. Shoplifting will become even more of a problem than it already is.
My daughter got done for no insurance when it had not long been taken out. Unfortunately the insurance cover had been revoked without her knowing. They say they sent her a letter not received. Car was confiscated . She was in a terrible state. Parents to the rescue service was activated.. first thing get the car back which costs money. We got that back after it was definitely insured. Then she had a summons. That involves a solicitor. Well a fantastic solicitor was found and said he specialised in this type off case. Again Costs money, but for £600 the case was eventually dropped after many hurdles. Daughter was over the moon. Reason why, she had not long passed her driving test . Law states she would loose her licence and retake driving test. Total costs to us was £900 for an innocent incident. A Cruel world. . Police officer who stopped her was not cooperative as she offered to contact insurance and get it sorted on the spot, but he refused that to happen. Don't think he liked woman drivers. Also the solicitor said you must fight this. It's totally unfair. He did as well.
Yes. Police can only report it to dvla if they find you driving untaxed. By which time you can get it done and will pay tax for the whole month you're in onwards, so you're back-paying up to a month anyway. Dvla lose nothing in short-term cases like that.
Someone in my street. An alcoholic. Constantly drunk day and night. Dosses in a derelict caravan on a bit of wasteland. No insurance or tax but drives his van every day. Been reported to both the police and DVLA numerous times for years. Nothing ever been done. Never stopped, never wheel clamped for no tax. Nothing.
Watched all these videos now and i am guessing its for what we all think its for which is pay by mile. Already seen articles mentioning Kier Starmers £12 pay by mile tax. Also noticed that they are altering the tax band on motorhomes. This is all pointing to the 15 minute cities idea's they want us to live in.
My Bike got knocked over at Elephant and Castle where it was parked in t bike bay at Southbank Uni of which I was a student. I asked the security to look at them to find out who had knocked my bike over and they refused point blank to even look. That was in 2010 I realised that the cameras were not for our benefit.
By LAW you are entitled to look at the footage (you may have to ask by letter) but they CANNOT refuse ! The max they can charge is £10 too.
Sympathy right at ya. Some wax knocked my CBR 600 over when i parked it in a multi-storey to get it out the sunshine (the one day we had that year) Huge puddle of Petrol on the floor making lifting it up without slipping on the painted petrol soaked floor and causing a spark quite exhilarating for someone whos got two blown discs in their back. Car park security did nothing as the office was locked up and in darkness. I think actually, That was the last day i rode the bike, That moment showed me i shouldnt be riding heavy bikes in my condition. Its now being rebuilt as a Turbo charged 90's Street fighter/Bloodrunners type thing. Ill probably never finish it as ive got no goal, I cant ride it.
who did you ask --- i have no idea who owns, operates them or where the data is stored. If you ask the Police they will say nothing to do with them and they dont have any access to film or data, so no you want get anywhere.
Where I used to live a shop trader asked to see CCTV footage of damage to her shop front. Turns out the cameras didn’t work and never had as there was no one to monitor them and yet she had been charged for years by the local council for coverage.
Hi Funk the cameras were highly likely covered by a legal clause that only the operator or police were permitted to view recorded footage.
It’s even tighter to get footage now with commercial outfits and certain domestic systems needing ICO registration (Information Commissioner’s Office) who are pretty much a wealth drain organisation.
Geoff you are 100% correct. Incidentally, during the first year of the toilet roll crisis, I worked as an agency nurse around the north of England, covering various stretches of the A1 and A1M. Loads of cameras went up during that first year on the entrances and exits of the A! in the North East of England and they were absolutely facial recognition. I tried to warn people and no one would believe what they thought was a crazy idea. So..... imagine when every town, village, service station, port and motorway entrances and exits all have facial recognition cameras.... then imagine how they'll enforce future lockdowns and travel limitations to save the planet or other globalist guff? This has long been the plan and whilst we are all speculating and debating what the f is going on, there really is no need: it is all in black and white in the United Nations and WEF's Agenda documents but sadly very few take the time away from football and love island to see for themselves.
Where can i find this information?
Well said I still can't believe the laziness in people to not look up these things for themselves like you said they are telling us but people aren't listening.
I call them the wilfully blind they sort of know but don't want to know it's easier to gaslight us
Won't really work if you're wearing a burkha!
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Here's an idea, why don't we all wear Starmer masks when we're out in public. That should get him a few years behind bars.
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God knows THAT slimy Isl*mist lusting cu^t deserves it
History WILL look back on that Isl*m lusting slimeball
There isn't a stomach pump made in history that'll empty HIS guts
Makes Marc Almond look like a rank amatuer in the cum-guzzling stakes
No wonder the Crescent Moon brigade always get a FREE PASS
They’ll ban masks, and in any case they’ll consider them attempting to pervert the course of justice…
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Those mystery cameras are to catch far right motorists
Who will, of course, be driving on the left !!!!!!
@@nicholasroberts6954 Unless overtaking or under the influence.
far right racist grannieeezzz Elderly Dinner Ladieeeezzz lol
We're gonna turn into China, there will be cameras EVERYWHERE
@@nicholasroberts6954😂
They are very active about stopping thought crime Geoff, welcome to the denounceables
you are going to get charged per mile and the public will eat it up with a spoon. They are sheep.
Already pay per mile. Its called fuel.
@@andrewwaller5913yeah…so we will be paying TWICE!….🤬
They're trying to say it's to get EV owners to pay, what's the betting they don't remove the fuel duty and make anyone with ICE vehicles pay per mile and fuel duty
@@michaellewis5934 Anything [They] say will be a lie of some sort. 'Make Someone else pay' is Divide & Conquer in action. Don't believe a word of it. It's for whomever they arbitrarily decide it's for.
Agenda 21 un wef all pepole will be poor
Relieing 100% on goverment hand outs
No cars,no house /land owership,live in a matchbox new apartments being built in center of southampton
Live in 1 room shere kicthen with 40 other pepole CCTV24/7
Ricky dicky sunak said this will start in Oxford
I've just subscribed. Your videos have kept popping up on my feed for a while. I wondered why cos I'm not really that bothered about cars :) but then I listened to you and realised.. i'm a conspiracy realist too, and i have to say you're the type of person who makes me proud to be English :) this year and last year i drove around for a few months without tax or insurance not meaning to with the tax and due to an error with the insurance, it took them months to send me any correspondence and when they did it was letters telling me to just sort it out please. I believe you are right there are more nefarious plans at work
Welcome to the channel!
@@GeoffBuysCars thankyou, keep up the good work
@@hisbannerovermewaslove2967please don't forget to look up. All that's being said you d💬 is just a little thing . Big things are going to happen. Thinking outside the box will prepare you. Big love. 🙏🃏🍞🎪❤️
Welcome to Geoffs investigative reality ! Others like him do the hard work so we learn the facts !
and don't forget to subscribe to his other channel, Adventures With Geoff also brilliant!!!!
As per Top Gear in Japan, everyone gets hold of Bill Oddie masks.
Oh goody goody 😂.
Keir Starmwer masks.
The refuse to look at the photo cameras
They say these cameras just read plates
I asked when my van was cloned
@@trevoradams3350 maybe now, but they just need to change a program on a computer...
Grouch Marx disguise?
I had a customer drop off a brand new tow truck to my auto electrical shop to fix a couple of things that had failed at the pit inspection (New South Wales Australia) at the Roads And Traffic Authority. We did the repairs and I was driving it back to the owner, I had a highway car following me and he pulled me over. He was going to book me for no registration and no third party (mandatory insurance), he had my licence and was about to start writing the ticket, when I made the comment that he could not book me for uninsured as my workshop policy covered us as we are not to know if a vehicle is insured. He said well" I'll book you for unregistered ",but I then stated a vehicle can be driven to and from a workshop for repairs if it failed the inspection. By this time I could see he was starting to seeth. But the icing on the cake was the vehicle was sign written and belonged to a person this copper hated.
15min Swab City Cameras
I accidentally drove around for 3 months with no insurance when the insurance company cancelled the wrong policy.... I only found out as I broke down in a bad spot and a lovely police lady told me... I explained the situation and luckily had two other cars that were insured that she checked on. She used her amazing thought to realise it was simply an oversight and had me buying insurance at the side of the road whilst the RAC turned up... And when the guy came over to me he asked "are you doing a bit of online shopping" and I said yes.... For insurance 😮
As a car trader. Cameras aren't for tax / insurance
Snap....
I drrive many vehicles that don't have tax or mot nor insurance for my customers.
I am insured not the vehicles, providing the vehicle is in roadworthy enough conditions my policy allows me to drive anything
The cameras are to monitor people's movements
@@evelghostrider YUP !!! Only for monitoring ........ I've traded 19 years or 2 decades next year and have trade plates since year one, I use them just over once per month but do 20,000 miles per annum. All the trade cars get driven in day hours back towards my trading premises ( booked into MOT on paper - obviously not , not troubling the MOT man, but that makes them legally travelling to an MOT station untaxed 'legally' and all that )..... I never get letters of no tax nor stopped, and are not on MID database for 14 days and untaxed and no trade plates in window. Where got a letter no tax would confirm broke down getting MOT station on date , never got there. NO letters so never display plates.... If I go central London I'd prob use plates. I don't.. So I dont ( take the plates )
Or being on the telephone 😉
I don't believe anything in this video is evidence they aren't ANPR cameras. The offence of driving without insurance is the DRIVERS offense. Not the owners. Doesn't matter if they are ANPR cameras or not, if they are fixed cameras (on a gantry or bridge etc) they are unable to prove who was driving when it pinged, so they can't issue a fine. As for the road tax, as long as it isnt sorn (which I assume you hadn't done when driving around) they won't fine unless it's been over a month. For example, my tax runs out end of June, if I drive it in July without taxing or sorning the vehicle, then tax it before 1st Aug, i have actually paid for the full month of July. If you have SORN the vehicle it's a different matter and you can be fined as either the driver or owner.666ur I'll
@@pugpete1 they made it a offence to have a car not sorn registered to be insured. That's how they tried me.
Hi Geoff , a few years ago I received a letter from the dvla about driving without road tax . My number plate was picked up on my journey from bedfordshire to east Yorkshire . The car was on the back of a transporter 😂
This imaginary Road tax doesnt exist
Hilarious 😂👌🏻🇬🇧 !
This is why I tape over car registration plates while they are being moved on a trailer.
I had a similar letter in 1996 for not displaying a valid disk (it was in the sunshade area of the windscreen, so visible, but you had to look carefully). Drove to the local DVLA office (remember them?) where the fine was recinded and I was advised to shift it so that it was more visable.
@@redsidebiker Some years ago (1980s) I was based in RAF Germany and came back to see my parents over Christmas. I parked my British Forces Germany registered car in my hometown, in a parking space opposite a main post office. When I came back a traffic warden was standing in front of the car, writing out a ticket. I asked if it was for my car and if so, what for? She said it was because it wasn’t displaying a tax disc. I explained that it wasn’t registered in U.K. but in Germany, hence the different number plate (black plate with white printed numbers). She was having none of it and said as far as she was concerned it needed to be taxed to be driven in U.K. roads and she continued to write and stuck the ticket on the windscreen. I was really annoyed and I drove straight round to the local police station and asked them for advice. After I explained the situation the duty sergeant pointed to the waste paper bin and suggested I made use of it. He told me that the traffic warden was so keen to issue tickets to car owners not displaying a tax disc that at the end of every month she waited for them to take the old disc into the post office (as drivers needed to do) to buy a new one……then she’d nip over and ticket them!
Lots of those Audis and BMWs in Birmingham the other night didn't have tax or MOTs.....
i would say 80% are ringers, so many of them are sold on facebook...almost not worth buying genuine...also dont forget the trade plate in the window = invincibility to the law
The use the same insurance policy under the same name Mohammed they usually have it pinned up in the mosque for all to use.
You know this how? what is your evidence? I call bullsh*t on your claim!
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DVLA reg check
@thehobo54 you only need the registration, dead easy to check.
Keep up the great work Geoff.
1984. Coming to a place near you!
Brother....
coming? It's been here for a while
And nobody seems to care…
It`s already here!
I got scammed by a fake insurance website pretending to be a well known website. When I did the road tax a page flashed up about insurance and then skipped to the next bit of the process and it taxed..
9 months later I bought a brand new car and tried to cancel the remaining insurance to find it didn’t exist…
I had been all over the uk, all along the M4 into Wales, to Bournemouth during Tory conference , Heathrow… my local roundabouts have ANPR as the data was used in local planning applications
This was 4 years ago… absolutely no detection
I'm glad [They] in America are behind schedule. Actually, we have the constitutional right to travel. A 'driver' is someone engaged in commerce. Sooner or later, we Americans will all put a stop to all this vehicle registration, driver's license, tag nonsense. Some have already legally sorted themselves out. Their plate # is "EXEMPT". It all boils down to the fraud that we live under common law, not the admiralty law that is actually enforced. It's extortion for money, plain and simple.
I thought a fine was automatic if a car is not continuously insured or SORNed. Maybe the DVLA's printers ran out of paper!
This is what happens with computerized "paperless systems"! If you have a piece of paper in your hand confirming date of payment etc of your car insurance or Road Tax, like we used to have, there would be no confusion. Great video, Geoff - thoroughly enjoyed it.
Yes, they are on top of police vans during the protests.
We have ANPR cameras locally ,The daughter in law was driving around for 4 months completely oblivious to the fact she had no MOT.never heard anything about it & that was several years ago.
I tried to report several cars too the DVLA for being used with no valid MOT. The DVLA said "Report it to the Police", so I contacted Essex Police, and they said "Report it to Essex County Council". So I contacted Essex County Council, and guess what they said, "Report it to the Police". This is the Gods honest truth. This goes to prove that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
Yup I had the same thing happen to me but never heard anything
We should all get Sir Kneel masks.
Interesting that UA-cam won't let me put his real name 🤔
Just call him Keith, that’s what they did at school and he would get very upset. 8:45
2-Tier Stalin
Do you mean Keir Starmer?
Just testing to see if they delete me too.
I always misread it as Sir Stammer.
I have a friend who has driven in Sweden in the most criminal areas of Stockholm for 15 years with no license, no tax, no MOT and he is yet to be stopped a single time.
Seems old Jeremy Clarkson was years ahead of us all ? Remember the bullet train race ? Bill Oddie face mask 😉 . I suggest Sadik Khan or kier Starmer might be very popular choice 😅😂😅😂
I always laughed at idiots wearing covid masks when driving in a car on their own.
Seems like it will be standard procedure now, but its now an anti-recognition mask...
Reminds me of when I was walking through my local car park in 2021 a woman wearing a mask and on her own was driving her car up and down looking for a space."She's not taking any chances with her health" I thought to myself (Sarc). Soon she pulled into a space a little ahead of me and as I was passing she ripped off the mask and lit a cigarette!
I prefer to wear my metal Crusader knight helmet when I drive around 😲
The irony is during the riots the police have been calling for the wearing of masks to be made illegal.
@@MrDavil43 I’ve seen that a guy two masks on buy tool station lifting his mask up too have a drag of his fag 😂I just burst out laughing my words were you F-ing idiot
The dvsa absolutely use those cameras for enforcement on hgv’s, a very friendly officer was able to tell me my journey times from the port I entered in to where I was stopped and even where I had my break
I get my MOTs done in Glasgow which is 100 miles away. In 2016 it failed due to floorpan corrosion.
When Fred got it retested I went to collect but I decided to drive home without road tax as it was near the end of the month and my intention was to tax it from the next month. About a week later I received a £290 for driving an untaxed sorned car I think it was flagged by a mobile ANPR camera near the Balloch roundabout. The good news is I pointed out to the DVLA that an untaxed car can be driven to and from an MOT
and got the fine canceled.
Glad I looked this up before trying to call you a numpty! Had no idea you could drive an untaxed car to a pre-arranged appointment at a test centre, I thought that rule only applied to cars with an expired MOT. If plod or the DVLA desk jockeys could be arsed they would try and get you with the time/date and travel direction as in your case it would be driving back after the car eventually passed, hopefully you managed to sneak out of it!
@@sarcastixx74 The rules are reasonably clear driving directly to and from an MOT even driving from (Thurso to Newquay), and driving to a garage to get the repairs done. I also think common sense should be used I wouldn't expect to get away with 4 baldy tyres in that case I think removing the wheels and dropping them off would be correct.
They have them in Australia as well. The idea is to ‘see inside’ peoples cars. There are a number of ways you can do this thermal vision is obviously pretty common but not too useful as the engine and metal body causes interference. You can use infrared red to see through plastic and other oil based products (as Sony accidentally released a camera once that could see through synthetic clothes). You can also use radio waves to see through cars but not great for people’s health which is why they don’t make you go through the baggage machine at airports. You can also use radiation but that’s even more worse. And there is a couple other ways.
Mostly you find the better something is at ‘seeing through’ something the worse it is for living things
They are for ANPR, when theres a detection police are sent not letters home. This is particularly useful for if there's a stolen vehicle or vehicle related to a crime they don't really send out many for insurance or road tax readings unless its a slow day.
All very good points Geoff.
Mate your bang on, where i live there are so many cameras it's a joke, yet i drove my car about without mot for over 6 months, no comebacks, it was only when my tax ran out, i see my mot had run out too. Thanks for the content.
Big brother watching you all the time to get off the road 😢
Big Brother will be watching you ! 15 min. cities ! Bow your head when the loaded elite come along ! That is why the roads are in such bad way , in their armour plated Sad Utility Vehicles [ SUV's ] their chaffeur can whizz over them , avoiding the great unwashed ! [ the average person ] ! Oh well they know what's best [ is the attitude most people will take ! I am glad i am not any younger as we seem to be heading back to the time before mount Tambora went up ! KEEP UP THE GREAT VIDS. .
What a rebel we're going to have to call you the Bandit 😂
I am so glad that you are not suggesting people drive with no insurance 🙂
No need to -plenty around already.
@@tridentmusic5570 great I hope you do not get hit in your car by one
@fred flinstone why would he want to do that bit of a brain dead comment dude !!
@@fredflintstone1 Thank you. Neither do I...........
In Bradford that's the norm
Over here in Australia noticed alot of new cameras lately.
Does my head in.
Thanks for the conspiratorial realism,appreciated mate.
The ANPR cameras will trigger police post up in the area to scan for no insurance in the following days, if not a few hours later when you ping for no insurance.
It happened to me! I had temp insurance that ran out while I was in Leicester and they were looking for me on the way out.
Hi from the North east 😊. Not only cameras, but what if they're emitting something? Certain types of frequencies? Maybe not.
Contact Ringway Manchester. He can probably tell you exactly what they are OR he will find out. Pretty sharp guy and very informative.
yep, get more people in on it and find out. Maybe an FOI is possible too?
I drove for six months without road tax, totally oblivious to that fact. I only found out when the DVLA clamped my van on the front, it's usually on the drive, my Son parked there whilst I was out. Road tax is purely a DVLA thing now, Police not involved at all (Told this by a Copper) so unless you park on a road, and just keep moving, you are very unlikely to be bothered by it all.
Yes. All police can do is report you to the dvla for no tax - by the time they've done that you can get it taxed (new car you're driving home for example)
Police used cctv to recover stolen bikes. About 10 years ago (in North Yorkshire) a friend had his garage emptied of expensive mountain bikes. He'd been to an mtb event the day before. He told the police this & they looked at cctv footage of his van (interesting jdm van, as it goes: Toyota Granvia 4x4 3.0td auto) leaving the event (around 60mls from his home) a Silver Zafira was behind him. They then looked at cctv at various points on his route home to see the Zafira still behind him. The car was traced & although not all the bikes were recovered. It was very encouraging how hard the police tried. I'm with you on the camera theory btw. But, credit where credit is due! 😅
fair enough I had my 5k mtb robbed and police are telling me they can't do nothing with the cctv footage and their faces and their tattoos ....
@@FF-pq2ex That sucks. Sorry to hear that. Probably an element of luck involved. Need a policeman who actually wants to (do his job) help 😬
Dec 23, i realised that i had been trundling around with no road tax on my campervan for four months.
My vehicles have always been insured and taxed in my 50 years of driving.
I never recived a remined form through the post as we normally get, and of course no tax disc in my windscreen to remind me either.
Not that I would have been believed had I'd been stopped by police.
Facial recognition would explain those huge infrared floodligths, when used in flash mode for photos those LED lights are bright as the sun. Exactly what's needed for sharp images and moving objects that need very short shutter times.
Except they are from behind not in front.
Just subscribed. At last a none bullshitting tuber cheers mate
Someone who is me (anytime you read a forum post that starts with "someone who isn't me/SWIM")
Once drove a car without road tax for a year
It was a £20 a year road tax bracket
Went through many places with ANPR.
I agree with you Geoff about facial recognition cameras but those four cameras facing the rear of the car are very odd 🤔🤔🤔👍
I think there could be a claim against the government for being sexist. After all it seems facial recognition will unfairly target men. Women wear make up and to be honest it won't be the first time that I woke up and did not recognise the woman next to me, so how will the facial recognition software be able to. Lol
I think facial recognition cameras work by measuring the dimensions of facial features. So make up will not alter that.
They're also racist. Been proven that they have limited ability to discern the differences in people of darker skin. There are SO MANY reasons why this scheme is flawed and unethical but, they're going to push ahead anyway.
Men will start wearing make-up, perhaps to scatter IR light on weird ways which would not be visible to the naked eye.
@@musicbruvIt does, but detecting where a facial feature is and how big it is is going to be difficult with no depth perception.
@@musicbruv That's going to work well for females in a Buqa... ... ...
Thank you for update ..
A few years ago had a letter from the local constabulary enquiring as to why my car was driven with no insurance on a specific day. The car had no insurance as it had been off the road for a while awaiting repair. I was able to inform the local constabulary that on said day the car would have been driven from a specific Garage to a specific MOT Station by the Garage repair mechanic. I received a reply stating that said information tied in with their report and all was well. There are cameras on the given route and that`s what I assumed it had to be.
greetings from Wales m8. just watched a couple of ur vids on another device ( I dont wont u t think I'm a fly-by-night). I drove an old derv Punto mk 2 for nearly 12 months with no road tax cos of a blunder by DVLA (and a bit of of one from me too) and only got pulled when a jam butty followed me back from a hospital appointmnt. I paid th fine and th lovely copper didn't seize our crusty old Fiat. there are good coppers out there. those things flashing green on yer ffon are pollution checkers I bet cos they face th tail pipes. keep on trucking.
If those cameras were for cars then would our insurance be so high? Would there be so many uninsured and untaxed vehicles on road? Don’t think so.
The reason that there are so many untaxed and uninsured drivers on the road is because insurance is a scam. Go and sign Mark McCann's petition against the illegal practices of the insurance industry in their sales and pricing.
@@Revup1 already done. My insurance was £800 last year and it went up to £1800 this year. Just like that and after shopping around cheapest I could get was £1600. 40y old with clean licence and over 20y NCB.
@@Dalbayob69Brexit has increased policy pressures. Parts are harder to source and take longer to deliver. No similar rises in EU
We all need a Jimmy Saville Mask as he was apparently "Hiding in Plain Sight" for decades!
I knew someone whose car was insured, but not taxed for about 4 years. They just forgot about it, thinking it was auto renewed every year. Never stopped, never paid it. Sold the car eventually. Nothing happened.
Fun fact: a constable does not require insurance; and a person _acting under the direction of a constable_ does not require insurance. If the police catch you without insurance they can tell you to drive home and you are legal to do it.
Let’s not pretend that all the young lads coming across the channel are never going to drive, and it won’t be legally.
Kamala Harris's newly-proclaimed running mate Tim Walz, while governor of Minnesota, brought in legislation to GIVE driving licences to ALL illegal immigrants. I kid you not - go and search.
And that's part of the reason that driving standards have plummeted...
@@AnnieRed66 You've driven in Bradford then. Just pulled up behind a car at roundabout, it was in right hand lane, with left indicator on... guess what, she turned right round the roundabout.
@Macwy1 Haven't been to Bradford in years, but Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire are no better...and the M1, well I think the M stands for mayhem!
Yeh know what you mean I do M1 and M62 daily@metannica1
I drove for a full year length & breadth of the Country with an insurance policy with one letter wrong on registration..completely by accident didn’t notice until renewal…didn’t get pulled over once when surely car should of pinged with police cars with ANPR as no insurance 🤷♂️
Data is the new gold.
oh yes I've been saying that for many many years...
As I commented on your other video, the cameras are very high quality, but pretty much universal as to what they can be used for.
It all depends on what software is used to process the images, and there is a lot more stuff in them than just a camera, so they can be used for way more than the older models.
Bring back the old days ….. I used to intentionally tax my car for 6 months then drive it untaxed for 6 months effectively halving what I had to pay
Back dated cover notes
Did you 'tap' the pay phones too? We did, used to spend hours chatting away foc!!
@@phubblewubbphubblewubb yes yes …… sure did 😂
Spot on 👍
Beware... many letters coming in one batch! Don't wake up the sleeping dragon!😵💫🤪🥴🤣🤣🤣
Sydney..the tunnels in and out of the city are fitted with a system for the toll charges..Every vehicle is charged the fee automatically using a digital system ..its direct debited ....im assuming its the same in London with Ulez?. Its definitely facial recognition..
If you do it in Leicester I suspect nothing will happen...
And Birmingham
The centre of Bradford but not up where ALL the speed cameras are up in the hills where the indigenous live
@therealunclevanya
Jokes on Starmer, those lot are more right-wing than he can possibly imagine.
@@paulie-Gualtieri. The wokeness is very aggressive and the implications of what it wants to do is extreme.
Depending on your ethnicity 😞🖕
The ANPR camera around are NOT for tax/insurance monitoring.
They're also not fully monitored.
It's a system set up so they can search for a suspect vehicle by checking the reg on the ANPR system and it will tell them what area it was last flagged through the system.
They can also input a concern registration into the ANPR and it will instantly alert them when it goes through a camera so they can send police units to intercept.
The sale of false noses and false beards are going to sky rocket.. 😂
I wear my Tony Blair mask.
@@wheater5 😳 Isn't it dangerous to look like Bliar out and about in the UK..?
@@BasketCase No worries, I’ll get my wife to wear a Cherie Blair mask. That will scare anyone away.
From my experience, as a young lad who does spirited drives, you are completely correct, these cameras do nothing, I know a plethora of individuals who attend car meets, do spirited/dangerous driving, and drive on the daily, with vehicles that are not insured, taxed, and or have a valid MOT, who rarely ever get caught out, unless spotted directly by police, it's amazing to me that our tax money, is being used on camera's that are not beneficial in any sense. My personal opinion is that while these are ANPR camera's, they do not directly communicate with any police force that a vehicle is uninsured, un-taxed, does not have a valid mot, and in some cases I've witnessed individuals driving vehicles that are not even registered, or are SORN, with no punishment, driving past these "ANPR" cameras with no consequences. I have contemplated at times if its worth the risk, of course I haven't taken this risk personally, but its quite worrying to think that these cameras are not doing anything, let alone the local police forces. These cameras also don't track speed or the use of a mobile phone, as I've witnessed this being demonstrated by other drivers. From personal account, the only use these cameras appear to have is to essentially track a vehicles whereabouts, again this is useful if someone is actively evading the police, but other than that, they have been used, in the event of a report, to prosecute against dangerous driving, all in all these are essentially anpr cameras, that are also cctv cameras, that are close to useless, aside from specific use cases, which are rarely ever met.
Can guarantee the bus lane cameras work perfectly.
@@JI7NKJ only ones that do something
The ones on a yellow pole are average speed cameras and the 4 boxes below are infra red lights to illuminate the plates.
Im coming up on infra red , i can see in the dark..Placebo.
Lol
Exactly because the one thing missing from them is a crucial element called a lens!!
They are but not linked to DVLA, only police. I got caught doing 48 on a variable speed limit on the M27. Got a fine, which I didn't pay, but no mention of no tax.
@@paul756uk2 you didn't pay? Did you appeal, or ignore it? 🤔
@@spaceskipster4412 I ignore everything. Haven't paid council tax since January 23 and energy bills since April 22. Everything goes in the shredder. I can afford to pay but it's the principle. When I see billions spent on wars and other things that have no benefit for ordinary working people, then I'm making a stand. Everyone should do it rather than wrecking cities. Oh, I always forget about TV licence as haven't paid that for years but then I stopped watching TV altogether.
It may be that with the road tax that the previous owner hadn't yet applied for their refund on the tax they will have paid, up until then it will still show on the database that tax is held for that vehicle hence why no letters. When you get your next renewal notice you could leave it and wait for the tax to expire then drive up and down to London and see what happens.
It's a Vector type ANPR camera. I've repaired them in the past.
can you elaborate on their functions?
@@Lostmy10mm They are just standard ANPR cameras. What they do with them is up to the software. Currently they are usually used to track cars with no tax/MOT/Insurance/used in crime/markers for drugs/organised crime, etc.
A number of people have testimony from their own experience. They’re not doing what you say.
I don’t doubt there are many ANPR devices. But those aren’t recognised as ANPR by several people who’ve a professional reason to know.
@@GT380man I think they will be multi functional when software is fully switched on in the coming months Mike.
@@GT380man They're obviously not very "professional" then. That's what they are. The rest is just conspiracy theory nonsense.
Came across this on Howdens insurance website:
“Again, it’s important to remember that Police Automatic Number Plate Recognition cameras will provide evidence that could result in fines, whereas the Highways Agency ANPR Cameras are just used to manage traffic flow.”
This would on the surface make sense, as in order for computers to judge traffic, each car needs to be identifiable within the computer algorithm. Using number plates and existing ANPR would also make sense as the easiest solution.
That doesn’t mean all the conspiracy theories are wrong though. Because the technology could easily be used for all the other reasons suggested.
Cornwall Council also has a great Highway CCTV and ANPR privacy notice page. This answers a lot of questions. But again it comes down to whether we trust they don’t share that data and that they will continue not to share that data.
Please dont link the camera to the software and databases that sit behind it. Any camera can read a number plate or take a picture of a face. Thats what they do. If the camera operator is the police they have access to the dvla, pnc data etc so can check shit like tax or mot. If the camera is operated by the local council then they dont have access to the same info as the police and cant do the same things police can. If the camera is operated by a 3rd party like a car park camera then they can only get very little data from paying the dvla for the registered keepers details. Context of who runs the camera is important to understand its capability
i went around for about 4 months in and around london even went to the Ace Cafe without insurance! (due to a computer error on the insurance company) nothing happend i only found out cause i wanted to change vehicles on my policy and found that i could not access it and it was not shoing up on the insurance data bace. i decided to switch insurance companys after the year ended
I got pulled 2:30am this morning as the car’s registered to Grantham and I was in Nottingham 40 miles away. Was just leaving work after dropped my mate off. Knew the car was okay even recorded it just annoying. Said to them people do commute for work and work night shift 🤦🏾
LEZ cameras on the A3 into London work. I was working in SW London in 2019 and commuting weekly. On one occasion, I took my 2001 camper there. Sure enough, £500 fine.
In NL they use all the camera's to spot traffic jams, accidents, objects on the road, etc. They also use license plate recognition but they get so many hits that they only go after the big guys... But the real big guys use the tactics you mentioned.
The UK would not dream of using cameras to actually help the public
Those 4 square lower lights are powerful infrared lighting to enable cameras to take high quality images of every driver and vehicle. The reason they don’t sit in a line is because they light up a large area. It won’t be long before everybody will use a mask when they drive, as they already do in Japan.
Bet there arent any in Dover ?
The road tax thing you mention. If you buy a car that was taxed at the point of sale, even if the change of ownership is done on line; the tax status does not change immediately. Neither will you be asked to tax the car until the month has expired. I bought a car and drove it, the vehicle was taxed at the point of sale. Ownership was changed on line. I had a very long journey home and three and a half hours later the vehicle broke down. I used a well known motoring organisation to get me home. The woman on the phone said when I reported the breakdown, asked me to wait whilst she checked if the vehicle was taxed, it came back as taxed and I got home; even though I didn’t tax it when I bought it. It was not until the end of the month, did I get a tax reminder. So maybe even though the tax isn’t transferred any more, the vehicle must still show as taxed for the remaining part of the month. True story. So that is why you didn’t get reported for driving without tax, because the system still had the vehicle as being currently taxed.
Yellow tends to be for speeding and average speed ANPR. Black or silver cased (MAV Systems Ltd) are council and Department of Transport data collection. Temporary ANPR mounted on a antenna mast are census by private companies. All camera upload data to a server with base64 images of the full car in colour and numberplate in black / white due to having a IR filter on the camera.
What do you mean by census by private companies?
Are you in the police, is that why you know so much about the cameras?
@@simonshee5155 when considering new developments, housing maybe or a new attraction, something requiring permission and technical amendments to road layout for a new junction....thst sort of thing, a traffic survey of volumes speeds, etc may be required. Useful to then take parameters for design of junctions, roundabout capacity, right turn lane necessity...etc
OP I wish they'd be labelled as such. Otherwise it is easy to see them as nefarious, or dystopian
In lockdown we only used 1 car our 14 plate DS3 I put my 09 Saab 93 Sportwagon on SORN as it was outside.on a private cul-de-sac I left it insured on the off chance it was nicked etc as I've had 2 cars stolen previously
Anyway 1 day after giving it a clean I went to the garage & supermarket in it. Within a month or so I got a letter from the DVLA saying I had no tax I etc, as it was sorn etc but as a 1 off I just back taxed to the start of the month rather than risk DVLA turning up & clamping it
So the ANPR cameras that are mounted allover do work not just all attached to 330d,s on Police traffic car's.
My amusing police story.
I bought an ex Audi car (S3) that was 6 months old. B4 I bought it I realised it had been used on Car Wow and a few other UA-cam chans.
One day I'd picked up my eldest son from school in St.Albans and was on my way to pick up my youngest son from his school just outside Harpenden. On the way 2 interceptor police cars (Jag & BMW) flashed passed in the opposite direction and I commented to son 1 that they looked like they were on a mission. A few minutes later I spotted them closing up on me at a rate of knots.
Like Geoff, my spidey senses told me I was about to get pulled. I was just about to take a short cut by the golf club. I indicated right and they both followed..as the blue lights came on I indicated left and the first car flashed past and cut in front of me whilst the car behind half pulled out to lock me in. 3 policemen ran out of each car as I wound the window down with a mystified look on my face. The first policeman to get to my car said "Your car's just been used in a robbery!"..they quickly realised I was innocent and we pulled into the golf club car park whilst they 'moddified' my number plates. They were very nice cops and we had a good chat. Nothing happened for about 18 months until I started getting summons for using a bus lane in a part of London I'd never been to and not paying for a Dartford crossing. After this I decided to get a cheap private plate..not had any hassle since.
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Nightmare! Presumably you were able to prove your innocence for the other stuff in London, too?
@@itchyscratch3829
Yes...luckily the fake car(s) didn't have the black pack or roof rails. After 3 I thought changing the plate for £300 would be the easier option. 👍🏻😎
Cordless saws/grinders should be in everyone’s car 😁👍🏻🇬🇧
Funny you mention this because about 9 years back I drove one of my vehicles around for pretty close to a year and 20k miles with no tax or mot.
It was insured because that auto-renewed but the rest was due while I was in hospital and it got forgotten about until the next reminder came through the year after.
Not a thing. No letter, summons - nothing.
No mot or tax means no insurance even if your paying it
@@anonymous-jt8du Interesting. I would love to know where you got that from.
@@siraff4461 it's common sense lol Google it if you don't believe me. You can be done for no insurance even if you have it also for example a delivery driver delivering without business insurance
@@siraff4461 I hate UA-cam deleting comments!! Just google it if you don't believe me 👍 you can be done for no insurance for alot of things even if you have it. For example delivery drivers delivering without business insurance
@@siraff4461 your own insurance company terms and conditions ., but who ever reads all that small print.
Gotta agree geoff I picked up a car I'd bought about a two weeks before had the v5 in my name no tax no insurance just not went through numerous anpr cameras. Heard nothing wierd.
An auditor (Reggie) was walking around the city (cant recall where) and was stopped by police and told to remove his face covering or be arrested! The cops quoted section 60.
If asked you are required to remove.
But I bet that won't be happening to a burka.
@@jasonudall8614 Exactly!
I'm not a lawyer but ......... From reading the legislation, I'm guessing the face covering was of a scarey appearance, otherwise I don't see how just having a face-covering would fall under the section 60 legislation.
@nearlypastit2385 .
The 1700 riot act was repealed 1974
Legislation introduced to replace it..
Includes such a requirement to remove face covering IF REQUIRED by police officer.
Of course I guess you need to be in such a position for that to apply.
..of course if behind the wheel..you can wear anything you like such that it doesn't interfere with your vision.
Of course if copper asks.. just comply
Is a beard considered a face covering?
You can purchase replacement modules that fit in remotes, these are very cheap and run at 1.5 volt and are on the same wavelength as the cameras so if you put 8 of them round your numberplate, hook up to 12 volt battery then they would make your numberplate shine so brightly as to stop it being photographed successfully.
It's not just the roads that are turning into a Big Brother dystopia. Shopping for groceries is too!
Went into a Tesco Local last weekend and they were in the process of putting up FR cameras as part of their attempt to tackle shoplifting.
Had a good discussion with some of the staff about it and why TESCO have to treat everyone like criminals instead of just hiring more security staff, where is the data stored, with whom, and how long for, who can access it etc.
FRT is well known to have it's flaws and to have racial biases as well, but is that stopping it from being rolled out EVERYWHERE at every opportunity by any party that so wishes...? Apparently not! Tesco is not the only offender, numerous other retailers in the UK are using it in their stores.
As is often the case, regulation is several years behind the tech and FRT (and ANPR) clearly have insufficient regulation around their usage and are rapidly becoming a very serious problem. These tools should be regulated and ideally only legal to use in very selected situations by the police but instead it seems to be a free for all. SCARY times we are living in!
My hubby complained about cameras in Asda when they first came out and they always default to shop lifting. In my local Waitrose it says 2hrs parking but when I queried it they don’t monitor because the staff park there as well. In fact the person I asked didn’t realise there were any signs. When you are on the road you get to know the best cafes and toilets.
They're optional, don't have to go in
@@areyoutryingtosay In the same way driving is optional and we can just walk / take the bus everywhere....?
@@soundseeker63 not exactly comparable but yes you got it 😉
@@areyoutryingtosay Ah well, I guess everythings fine then...
As mentioned before Geoff, I’m sure they’re the infrared enhancers are whatever they might be called. Looks like they’re added after if they weren’t getting visibility needed.
Also, if you point an IR remote car key at your non iPhone smart phone camera (something to do with a filter on iPhones that stops it but maybe those camera things are emitting more?) and press lock/unlock you’ll see if flash in a similar way to what you filmed. We use that trick to see if key is sending signal or car isn’t receiving it.
If you put a 'Free Plastering' flag on your bumper, you'll NEVER get a pull 😂😢😅
🚗 🇵🇸 👀 🙈 🚨 🚔 👮♂️
A nice bright IR led strip across ones dash should do the trick.
PS . There WONT be any drug dealing with money as it'll be CBDC ! It will be done by trading stolen gear !
I think you are 100% correct, All CBDC will do is drive any illegal activity underground where goods will be used as 'currency'. Shoplifting will become even more of a problem than it already is.
My daughter got done for no insurance when it had not long been taken out. Unfortunately the insurance cover had been revoked without her knowing. They say they sent her a letter not received. Car was confiscated . She was in a terrible state. Parents to the rescue service was activated.. first thing get the car back which costs money. We got that back after it was definitely insured. Then she had a summons. That involves a solicitor. Well a fantastic solicitor was found and said he specialised in this type off case. Again Costs money, but for £600 the case was eventually dropped after many hurdles. Daughter was over the moon. Reason why, she had not long passed her driving test . Law states she would loose her licence and retake driving test. Total costs to us was £900 for an innocent incident. A Cruel world. . Police officer who stopped her was not cooperative as she offered to contact insurance and get it sorted on the spot, but he refused that to happen. Don't think he liked woman drivers. Also the solicitor said you must fight this. It's totally unfair. He did as well.
Wow, no insurance. You're such a rebel
URSUCHADIK .
Wow, you can't listen, you're such a .........
Mid often takes days to update. when it comes to road tax, nothing can be done until your road tax has become more than a month overdue.
Yes. Police can only report it to dvla if they find you driving untaxed. By which time you can get it done and will pay tax for the whole month you're in onwards, so you're back-paying up to a month anyway. Dvla lose nothing in short-term cases like that.
I did that for 9 months without knowing.
Hubby drive for over a year no tax, by all accounts there was a problem at the office sending out the form. Hubby does a lot of mileage, never pulled.
Please share with us the videos of police stops.... Seeing your attitude with the cops would be interesting 😂
Someone in my street. An alcoholic. Constantly drunk day and night. Dosses in a derelict caravan on a bit of wasteland. No insurance or tax but drives his van every day. Been reported to both the police and DVLA numerous times for years. Nothing ever been done. Never stopped, never wheel clamped for no tax. Nothing.
Watched all these videos now and i am guessing its for what we all think its for which is pay by mile. Already seen articles mentioning Kier Starmers £12 pay by mile tax. Also noticed that they are altering the tax band on motorhomes. This is all pointing to the 15 minute cities idea's they want us to live in.
Please post a link to this policy. It’s fake
@nicks4934 UA-cam doesn't allow you to post links. But I remember it was from one of those local news companies
Toxic gas detection cameras . AKA fart cameras . Making sure you don't fart while you're driving .