Joe Rogan - Mathematician on Trying to Measure Consciousness

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  • Опубліковано 17 гру 2018
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  • @Codeeez
    @Codeeez 5 років тому +14908

    The internet is amazing for the fact that these people spend their whole lives working on something and I get a beautiful summarized version while eating a McMuffin

  • @IllumTheMessage
    @IllumTheMessage 5 років тому +6069

    Give such credit to Joe for not cutting him off and just letting him explain. Brilliant.

    • @monsterhuntervideos4446
      @monsterhuntervideos4446 5 років тому +33

      Zod
      Joe should have asked more thought provoking questions regarding what the guy actually thinks consciousness is. The guy didn’t really go that deep on the possibilities. Consciousness is one of the most interesting philosophical subjects you can talk about. This moment was wasted. Joe could have got him thinking. The guy was just as clueless about consciousness as anyone else. LOL! It’s general Zod!

    • @monsterhuntervideos4446
      @monsterhuntervideos4446 5 років тому +6

      Anon Anonymous
      No dip shit.

    • @GlacialScion
      @GlacialScion 5 років тому +26

      @@monsterhuntervideos4446
      Did you watch the whole interview or just this clip from it?

    • @monsterhuntervideos4446
      @monsterhuntervideos4446 5 років тому +6

      Ezeckel Reichert
      I think I watched 3 clips. When I saw the one on consciousness I watched it last and thought it would be insightful, but it wasn’t. My personal opinion is that science cannot touch or measure consciousness and that’s why the discussion was boring. Only philosophy and logic can touch upon what consciousness is. If I’m wrong I’ll be proven wrong in the future if science actually identifies what consciousness is. I just don’t think that will ever happen.

    • @GlacialScion
      @GlacialScion 5 років тому +56

      @@monsterhuntervideos4446
      It really sounds like you're saying that since it wasn't what you personally believe, you didn't like what was said.

  • @MagicMandril
    @MagicMandril 3 роки тому +3216

    Dude I'm high as hell and it feels like I'm talking to an actual wizard.

    • @jamespoff8632
      @jamespoff8632 3 роки тому +22

      hell to the yea but i think he could take a wizard too school

    • @beyblader305
      @beyblader305 3 роки тому +7

      😂😂😂😂

    • @harshly2155
      @harshly2155 3 роки тому

      What on?

    • @hamzasyed5671
      @hamzasyed5671 3 роки тому +43

      Bro i couldnt comprehend what was going on after a certain point so i said fuck it n went to sleep😂😂

    • @78pt23
      @78pt23 3 роки тому +6

      talking?

  • @donthetrader
    @donthetrader 3 роки тому +2032

    Sir Roger Penrose just won the 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics. Great guest Joe

    • @marcospizarro7890
      @marcospizarro7890 3 роки тому +2

      Wait when was this?

    • @vaahtobileet
      @vaahtobileet 3 роки тому +23

      @@marcospizarro7890 6 October 2020

    • @mwhassan999
      @mwhassan999 2 роки тому +25

      It was well overdue though.

    • @oryxchannel
      @oryxchannel 2 роки тому +13

      agree or disagree with his prize...it was awarded for all the side-science you can harvest from his path(ology) in the near future. take room-temperature MASER science for instance. (not LASER)

    • @ulollolmao8631
      @ulollolmao8631 Рік тому +16

      @@oryxchannel agree or disagree ? There's an objective method by which nobel prize is awarded you can agree with reality or not agree with it

  • @OJohnnywhadO
    @OJohnnywhadO 5 років тому +4246

    Guest like these is what makes the JRE Podcast absolutely revolutionary compared to mainstream media/interviews.

    • @psgarcha92
      @psgarcha92 5 років тому +301

      @Armoured Rat put experts together and they talk in expert lingo; with joe they are forced to simplify.

    • @michaelparker9435
      @michaelparker9435 5 років тому +18

      this and the other top comments are straight up, good comments lol.

    • @ClosedEyeVisualisations
      @ClosedEyeVisualisations 5 років тому +79

      @Armoured Rat You are the definition of a hater. So much content out there but you are here and spreading negativity.

    • @iheartlreoy8134
      @iheartlreoy8134 5 років тому +17

      Armoured Rat well maybe you’re wrong about all of that bc Rogans podcast is one of the most successful so maybe people do connect like that in that way

    • @darkcoeficient
      @darkcoeficient 5 років тому +14

      @Armoured Rat you say that, but I wouldn't have known this person existed if it didn't shown up on my feed. So I guess you are lost.

  • @bmerlett1290
    @bmerlett1290 5 років тому +6521

    Joe”I know when to be quiet“ Rogan

  • @GuanTones
    @GuanTones 3 роки тому +2503

    this man calculated his way into spirituality

  • @estherbeanflower9361
    @estherbeanflower9361 Рік тому +126

    They don't get any more prestigious than this guy. He's a legend.

    • @stgeorge5862
      @stgeorge5862 Рік тому

      Hes a nerd and im an alpha. I would do upon him a wedgie as 80s movies instruct athletes do to nerds

  • @kobiromano6115
    @kobiromano6115 4 роки тому +2184

    3:06 "I used to have a colleague"... English Mathematician version of "A buddy of mine..."

    • @traceriley7836
      @traceriley7836 4 роки тому +52

      True lol. It is possible that the person died given his age, which makes it sad.

    • @AviChetriArtwork
      @AviChetriArtwork 3 роки тому +10

      I tend to say peer.

    • @jamieleach7341
      @jamieleach7341 3 роки тому +26

      A colleague is different to a buddy

    • @angusmcmungachuck3667
      @angusmcmungachuck3667 3 роки тому +5

      @@RupertUtley eloquently spoken sir

    • @lred1383
      @lred1383 3 роки тому +3

      @@RupertUtley You had a point there.... Until you spelled "appalling" with one p

  • @kaComposer
    @kaComposer 3 роки тому +193

    One thing that makes Rogan an innovative interviewer is his ability to let his guest speak uninterrupted for over ten minutes without getting anxious himself. Seriously great.

    • @wademichalski768
      @wademichalski768 Рік тому +2

      agree. It's like hes the most interested person to his guest out of all of us.

    • @assassinaria
      @assassinaria Рік тому +7

      He's very socially intelligent. He can tell whether or not the person would want to just speak without input. On top of that, he can read whether or not WE would want that. His older interviews from 2013-2014ish, he did cut people off, but he's mastered his craft now.

    • @a.s.clifton544
      @a.s.clifton544 Рік тому +3

      And at the end of that 10 minutes to ask a series of cogent questions that are similar to what I want to ask. Brilliant indeed.

    • @DonBean-ej4ou
      @DonBean-ej4ou 4 місяці тому

      Yes. He reminds me of Piers Morgan.

  • @alinice82
    @alinice82 2 роки тому +266

    As a mathematician, I never expected Joe to have such interview.

    • @BKGclan4LIFE
      @BKGclan4LIFE 2 роки тому +34

      Joe is so open to so many different ideas, big reason why he has such a wide spread fan base.

    • @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069
      @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 Рік тому +6

      I didn't either and he really acted and held himself correctly for the occasion during this episode, I was quite impressed by it!

    • @justink2101
      @justink2101 Рік тому

      @Jesus Christ Birth, disease, old age, death, repeated for millennia until renunciation of the material world.

    • @aanakrukavi
      @aanakrukavi Рік тому

      Do you believe in Allah, Heaven, Hell, Dajjal

    • @olatunbosunsuccess962
      @olatunbosunsuccess962 Рік тому +1

      What was the probability of this event

  • @Jezee213
    @Jezee213 Рік тому +233

    Thank you Joe, this man deserves so much respect and you treated him such. It's an honor to watch him speak and not be cut off or rushed.

    • @ragnaroksangel
      @ragnaroksangel Рік тому +1

      An*
      Honor*

    • @Jezee213
      @Jezee213 Рік тому

      @@ragnaroksangel oops typo. thanks.

    • @quinnparker6111
      @quinnparker6111 6 місяців тому +1

      Joe had no idea what tf he was talking about

    • @Jezee213
      @Jezee213 6 місяців тому

      @@quinnparker6111 Haha yea I'm sure he had no clue.

    • @ronaldkerekes3989
      @ronaldkerekes3989 5 місяців тому

      Exactly...Joe knows not to interupt him...respect to both

  • @cheyennealvis7899
    @cheyennealvis7899 5 років тому +2976

    yes but... have you tried DMT? Jaime pull that up for me.

    • @killasin303
      @killasin303 5 років тому +59

      Lol i read that in his voice

    • @christopher6290
      @christopher6290 5 років тому +7

      Same 😂☠️

    • @killasin303
      @killasin303 5 років тому +13

      @Guybrush Threepwood good job ... that was so witty "Your mommas voice" you must be a comedic genius...wow...you win! Im not worthy

    • @brandonhill4197
      @brandonhill4197 5 років тому +1

      I think joe realizes at this guys age it would prob kill him.

    • @Parallelwurlds
      @Parallelwurlds 5 років тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @adammillington5053
    @adammillington5053 4 роки тому +2296

    Watching Joe rogan is like farming life XP

  • @JG_1998
    @JG_1998 Рік тому +94

    The fact that someone who took lectures from Dirac is able to do interviews on Rogan is mindblowing. I use the dirac delta function almost every day in my course work as an engineer. Dirac is one of the most important physicists of all time.

    • @justindreyer7334
      @justindreyer7334 Рік тому +2

      The world we live in is amazing

    • @DipayanPyne94
      @DipayanPyne94 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@justindreyer7334 Not really. NeoLiberalism is destroying it.

    • @influentia1patterns
      @influentia1patterns 5 місяців тому

      Dirac was a madman!! Sometimes in a good way

  • @n0rbakn0rbak38
    @n0rbakn0rbak38 2 роки тому +442

    This guy is a genius !! He has made more contributions to physics than Stephen Hawkins. Nice to see a noble prize winner in physics explaining physics to Joe Rogan

    • @organicfarm5524
      @organicfarm5524 2 роки тому +22

      He's truly an underrated polymath of his time.

    • @shaswatadutta4451
      @shaswatadutta4451 2 роки тому +18

      @@organicfarm5524 I don't think Dr. Penrose was ever underrated. Maybe many people don't know about him beyond the scientific community. But within his community, he's definitely one of the greatest figures of the 20th century (at least).

    • @ulollolmao8631
      @ulollolmao8631 Рік тому +8

      @@shaswatadutta4451 cool so he's underrated especially in this context compared to Hawking who is very well known to general population

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto Рік тому +1

      How do you know he has made more? Hawking made contributions both to singularities and black holes.

    • @n0rbakn0rbak38
      @n0rbakn0rbak38 Рік тому +18

      @@innosanto If making contributions in singularity and black holes is the key for your argument, I believe that you will find fascinating that Dr. Penrose won the Noble price in physics for the discovery that black hole formation is a robust prediction of the general theory of relativity, While Einstein's general theory of relativity predicts the existence of black holes, Einstein didn't himself believe they really existed. Hawking singularity theorem is based on Penrose singularity theorem.

  • @jsmiles176
    @jsmiles176 4 роки тому +766

    This man's voice so pleasing to the ear, I could listen to him tell a story of the biggest shit he's ever taken, and still be fascinated

    • @saaw8344
      @saaw8344 3 роки тому +19

      True. He sounds like a man that could narrate a Disney movie lol

    • @shadowfax743
      @shadowfax743 3 роки тому +3

      This guy could read anything and I would listen.

    • @jaytheyungan1665
      @jaytheyungan1665 3 роки тому +2

      Lmao

    • @laska907
      @laska907 3 роки тому +4

      Typical Rick.

    • @jeannedarcstone
      @jeannedarcstone 3 роки тому +5

      But to be fair Those kind of shit stories are always fascinating i think

  • @kalewintermute28
    @kalewintermute28 5 років тому +980

    Roger Penrose's doubt and willingness to say he doesn't know the answer with certainty is so reassuring. The bullshit level with him is close to zero, and thats SO rare.

    • @vincent10kd
      @vincent10kd 5 років тому +88

      mark of a real scientist

    • @i3e5l4
      @i3e5l4 5 років тому +30

      @@vincent10kd humble man..

    • @emmanuelkant9579
      @emmanuelkant9579 4 роки тому +6

      I don't think that at all, I think that made him look rather poorly knowledgable on the topic here wrote a book on.

    • @thiocarbamoyl
      @thiocarbamoyl 4 роки тому +50

      @@emmanuelkant9579 Science makes you realize very quickly that we have to be very careful about what we claim to really know, and what we actually just intuit, understand vaguely or flat out think of incorrectly. Any good scientist knows their job isn't describing reality, but making predictions about it.

    • @emmanuelkant9579
      @emmanuelkant9579 4 роки тому +24

      @@thiocarbamoyl Hey man, to be honest I was very high when I wrote that comment. I have this thing about me that I very much like playing devils advocate. Thus at this time I am not sure if this comment was meant as devils advocate or it was actually my own thinking. Now I am sitting in the couch of my student apartment, feeling depressed as always, contemplating what is there to even desire to continue. As a fellow human, I hope you have a better peace of mind. I give up.bye

  • @FirstnameLastname-fd9cp
    @FirstnameLastname-fd9cp 3 роки тому +40

    This is why the Joe Rogan podcast is the best. He is like "today I will talk to Mike Tyson next week Rodger Penrose."

  • @bogdanalindaragiu1314
    @bogdanalindaragiu1314 2 роки тому +76

    What a podcast to have, people will still watch these in 50 years time. Legendary!

    • @eddiejohnston1853
      @eddiejohnston1853 Рік тому +4

      Assuming UA-cam servers aren't destroyed

    • @janmajer4662
      @janmajer4662 Рік тому

      ​@@eddiejohnston1853 We must protect YT servers at *all* costs!!!

    • @toskybeaston
      @toskybeaston 9 місяців тому +1

      the world will be gone brother, live vast

  • @justinarias88
    @justinarias88 4 роки тому +151

    The greatest gift a host can give is silence

  • @dpedd12
    @dpedd12 5 років тому +443

    Thank you Joe for not cutting him off. Smoked a big joint and listened to this while cooking bacon and that made life pretty great hahaha

    • @medlvr5215
      @medlvr5215 5 років тому +7

      I'm doing the exact same, absolutely fascinated

    • @jonasdamion1627
      @jonasdamion1627 5 років тому +6

      I listen to jre so often when making breakfast, fuckin vibes

    • @Cheesusrice69222
      @Cheesusrice69222 4 роки тому +4

      Fat doinks in Amish

    • @GrimoraHistoryTV
      @GrimoraHistoryTV 4 роки тому +16

      Wait a minute I have weed, papers, and bacon...the brief wiggling of your fingers 4 months ago has directly altered my reality today. And I thank you

    • @ezrae5450
      @ezrae5450 4 роки тому +4

      @@GrimoraHistoryTV im at work. Gonna wait til i get home so i can have bacon and get to baking

  • @bobodwyer1016
    @bobodwyer1016 3 роки тому +73

    he's remembering really specifically lectures he went to 50 or so years ago, i think I forgot what they said in lectures as soon as I walked out

    • @CharlieTooHuman
      @CharlieTooHuman 3 роки тому +3

      True, but I think being the mathematician that he is, these lectures are like attending an extremely memorable stage play. Science and math is his passion, so any memories/information related to that will be easily recalled.

    • @movin3148
      @movin3148 2 роки тому +7

      dude, he got to go to a lecture from PAUL DIRAC! who wouldnt want to not forget it??

    • @cardinality1975
      @cardinality1975 2 роки тому +2

      @@movin3148 this is what I was thinking, imagine sitting in with THE Paul Dirac? That’s like attending a lecture with Einstein or Newton. What an extremely memorable experience!

  • @The_Primary_Axiom
    @The_Primary_Axiom Рік тому +23

    JRE needs to bring more scientists and physicists back.

  • @MemesOfProduction69
    @MemesOfProduction69 5 років тому +277

    14.55 before Joe asks his second question. Phenomenal job letting the man speak and explain without constant interruption. its what we all love about JRE

    • @timfondiggle2582
      @timfondiggle2582 4 роки тому +1

      @Stephanie S Nope, but I need no therapy. All i need to make my life right is a small man with a big bald head to live with me and let me lick his head whenever I want

    • @blindeyesurgeon6576
      @blindeyesurgeon6576 3 роки тому +2

      @Stephanie S this brief interaction between you and that guy, Without any context is the most random and funniest shit ive seen all day lmao

  • @ashkrikorian5753
    @ashkrikorian5753 4 роки тому +357

    The fact that this guy can say I don't know to a question is one of the reasons why he is a true scientist. I have seen others, insert their opinion and thats bs

    • @blikedat
      @blikedat 4 роки тому +6

      Facts

    • @based_convention
      @based_convention 4 роки тому +11

      Because he’s very objective

    • @zachluntsford
      @zachluntsford 4 роки тому +25

      Intellectual humility is so important

    • @yaboi3445
      @yaboi3445 3 роки тому +7

      A lot of scientists are kind of taught not to say you don’t know, you are to make educated guesses half the time. I think a lot of them take that out with their education and think they can guess the answer to any question.

    • @arpitthakur45
      @arpitthakur45 3 роки тому

      @@zachluntsford why

  • @999a0s
    @999a0s 2 роки тому +45

    Just for the record this is as close as you’re going to get to an interview with Einstein. Penrose is a HUGE name in math and physics. This is like bringing Grothendieck or Hilbert on the show.

  • @davidgretlein9384
    @davidgretlein9384 3 роки тому +79

    I love and respect Joe Rogan to the nth degree. He is by far the best interviewer I’ve ever watched. Especially if it is a topic he is genuinely interested in. Joe didn’t speak for a full 15 minutes, and understands enough to ask appropriate questions. I’m also imagining Joe asking the Professor wants “shrooms” to explore this further.

  • @omahabibblemaddox2181
    @omahabibblemaddox2181 5 років тому +604

    How did Joe get this guy? He's brilliant and a joy to listen to. He articulates his thoughts and ideas perfectly.

    • @brianhickey666
      @brianhickey666 5 років тому +22

      Joe has many guest that meet that criteria

    • @kalewintermute28
      @kalewintermute28 5 років тому +25

      He's written lots of books aimed at the general public so probably thought alot about how best to communicate this stuff in a palatable way.

    • @emmashalliker6862
      @emmashalliker6862 5 років тому +51

      It's Sir Roger Penrose, you been living in a cave?

    • @LetsGoGetThem
      @LetsGoGetThem 5 років тому +10

      Hmm, it might have something to do with having the largest podcast in the world... Naaaah...

    • @TheTokoUate
      @TheTokoUate 5 років тому

      He’s very meek

  • @DC-wp6oj
    @DC-wp6oj 4 роки тому +616

    There’s something about old school English Professors having a somewhat deeper understanding of their subject matter. Vintage quality.

    • @fishfire_2999
      @fishfire_2999 3 роки тому +52

      Reminds me of a 1962 Volvo.

    • @stonhs
      @stonhs 3 роки тому +15

      @@fishfire_2999 lmfao that’s a great comment man

    • @FromThe3021
      @FromThe3021 3 роки тому +10

      According to Wiki, he's from the 18th century, after making many correct calculations, he's lived a multidimensional meaningful life, spending much of it in the future-to-date.
      You can tell he has because of all the knowledge he brings plus the truth, logic and common sense in his accent.

    • @garystevens3184
      @garystevens3184 2 роки тому +3

      I know right, wait till you watch this video witha mathematician in it.

    • @alkintugsal7563
      @alkintugsal7563 2 роки тому +3

      Yes pure quality and class…

  • @TJDelaney420
    @TJDelaney420 3 роки тому +29

    "My mind sort of wandered at that point, I dont know what I was thinking about" such a deeply real and true statement about uni lectures lol

  • @thegreatboppilini9006
    @thegreatboppilini9006 3 роки тому +48

    "Jamie pull up that video with the ostrich and the balls."

    • @BeatMattt
      @BeatMattt 2 роки тому +2

      Ha regular show joke

  • @SaltyBuildersCry
    @SaltyBuildersCry 5 років тому +576

    I have NEVER heard Joe be so quiet for so long!!!!!

    • @mastermill79
      @mastermill79 5 років тому +17

      But did you notice Joe's jaw drop?

    • @younggrasshopper3531
      @younggrasshopper3531 5 років тому +23

      He was probably spacing out hella hard lol

    • @bitcoinbuffalo8771
      @bitcoinbuffalo8771 4 роки тому +11

      You need to tune in to his new Edward Snowden Podcast. He is as quiet as a mouse in that one lol...

    • @georgegraham6069
      @georgegraham6069 4 роки тому +17

      Joe doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

    • @everready2903
      @everready2903 4 роки тому +1

      He nodded off.....

  • @quantummath
    @quantummath 5 років тому +586

    This brilliant man is consciously reducing the complexity level of his points to the level that engages the audience from start till the end. Fantastic Interview indeed.

  • @justinbr4288
    @justinbr4288 2 роки тому +19

    Theres a difference between trying to act smart like some of the guest and actually being smart. This guy was very interesting. I'd watch if u had him back.

  • @redcapphony
    @redcapphony 3 роки тому +72

    "I've read much of your work" = I read some articles about your work.

    • @hamster2880
      @hamster2880 3 роки тому

      Maybe you lol

    • @yaboi3445
      @yaboi3445 3 роки тому +15

      @@hamster2880 there’s absolutely no way that joe could read his published papers and understand them. More accurately “I have scanned a few of your papers and didn’t understand anything, can you explain in laymen’s terms?”😂

    • @AnthonyShuker
      @AnthonyShuker 2 роки тому

      @@yaboi3445 he said read, not understood his work

  • @Dumppump
    @Dumppump 5 років тому +1610

    Way too high for this level of chat...

    • @patrickshaw8538
      @patrickshaw8538 5 років тому +25

      same here

    • @albertoxFTW
      @albertoxFTW 5 років тому +11

      LMAO

    • @NewWorldStoner
      @NewWorldStoner 5 років тому +7

      Yep haha

    • @kaptainkool408
      @kaptainkool408 5 років тому +38

      Even if you werent youre to dumb to get it.

    • @ylracci
      @ylracci 5 років тому +5

      Just killed mine..and now lit my cig..my mind is buzzin..all over like a ping pong ball back and forth

  • @melissachenoweth6296
    @melissachenoweth6296 3 роки тому +504

    This made me realize I’m only smart in relation the people I surround myself with!

    • @sambarratt1349
      @sambarratt1349 3 роки тому +93

      Sounds like a backhanded compliment for yourself and a knuckle sandwich for your associates.

    • @funnycrow4462
      @funnycrow4462 3 роки тому +7

      @@sambarratt1349 🤣

    • @VicInvades
      @VicInvades 3 роки тому +2

      @@sambarratt1349 get em

    • @MarsLonsen
      @MarsLonsen 3 роки тому +1

      @@sambarratt1349 whats "a knuckle sandwich"?English is not my mother tongue)

    • @yashpatel402
      @yashpatel402 3 роки тому +5

      @@MarsLonsen a punch I guess

  • @just-in-spacetime6674
    @just-in-spacetime6674 3 роки тому +13

    Listening is an underrated skill.

  • @juliangulian1032
    @juliangulian1032 3 роки тому +25

    Bring this guy back for a whole month

  • @Earthgazer
    @Earthgazer 5 років тому +1422

    Why is Penrose's name not in the title? Seems a bit like having Stephen Hawking on the show and just calling it Physicist Explains Black Holes. Surely more people are going to click if they see that kind of name.

    • @dr.palsonp.h.d815
      @dr.palsonp.h.d815 5 років тому +90

      UnderATallTree Youd be shocked to know that having vague titles is actually for views

    • @Broken_robot1986
      @Broken_robot1986 5 років тому +115

      At least they should have put his name in the description.

    • @nicholastrice8750
      @nicholastrice8750 5 років тому +7

      Didn't you write the same comment under an Eyes Wide Shut YT review?
      I think you did.

    • @groboclone
      @groboclone 5 років тому +55

      Try asking random people in the street who Roger Penrose is, it's nowhere near as much of a household name as Stephen Hawking

    • @bobbysanchez6308
      @bobbysanchez6308 5 років тому +9

      I think it’s kind of poetic that he just considers them how they are: scientists/mathematicians-as if they all have equal potential to make meaningful contributions to society.

  • @loadur9651
    @loadur9651 4 роки тому +316

    3:03 imagine talking about advanced mathematics while staring at Joe just sitting there the way he does 😂😂

    • @xxgoldmoney
      @xxgoldmoney 4 роки тому +37

      “Wtf is this guy talking about i wonder?! Eh i dont want to sound stupid- i’ll just sit here like a stoned ape and pretend i get it”

    • @breathlight5024
      @breathlight5024 4 роки тому +13

      Just like the stars its deep and all the meaning is there, yet i cant completely comprehend it

    • @KaninTuzi
      @KaninTuzi 4 роки тому +26

      The marvel and intricacies of the universe can be glimpsed in the sheen on Joe's bald head

    • @giwrgoshmm9430
      @giwrgoshmm9430 4 роки тому +1

      Best coment .thnx bro

    • @beaudweiser
      @beaudweiser 3 роки тому +18

      Joe's thinking about how to ask him about DMT

  • @Jay-xh9dl
    @Jay-xh9dl 3 роки тому +27

    This is so good I would pay 100 dollars for it. Joe's interviewing skills shine so bright here. His genuine interest in everything really fuels the dialogue...

    • @tedseb7726
      @tedseb7726 7 місяців тому

      I don’t have any money, but I’d pay at least 6 or 7 cool rocks I find about for it. Hell of a deal too.

    • @influentia1patterns
      @influentia1patterns 5 місяців тому

      @@tedseb7726since you guys can see it for free I will accept your money.😂
      Oh wait you mean rocks… I couldn’t see anything but green for a second there.

  • @somerandomguy000
    @somerandomguy000 2 роки тому +5

    “There’s something non-computable, something beyond computation…”
    How profound is that!

  • @alphabetroyal
    @alphabetroyal 4 роки тому +175

    I love the era we live in, so much information out there. Thank you Joe Rogan for these wonderful guests.

  • @zachmatuszak
    @zachmatuszak 4 роки тому +297

    This man is the most well-spoken, articulate person I have ever listened to. His understanding of how to frame complex ideas and build understanding from scratch is unprecedented

    • @fishfire_2999
      @fishfire_2999 3 роки тому +1

      My thoughts exactly being that i can relate /process the bulk of his verbage could never relay on this level .

    • @rosedragon108
      @rosedragon108 3 роки тому +2

      look up david bohm. he has several talks. bohm was a colleague of einstein's.

    • @lucawade379
      @lucawade379 3 роки тому

      yes

    • @codefree369
      @codefree369 2 роки тому +2

      So ur high too bro?😆

    • @smkxodnwbwkdns8369
      @smkxodnwbwkdns8369 2 роки тому

      You must be one sheltered idiot, then

  • @sacchitsreenivasan3487
    @sacchitsreenivasan3487 3 роки тому +8

    Man I love Joe's curiosity! His attentive face throughout th interview says it all

  • @taptapdig5487
    @taptapdig5487 3 роки тому +6

    Knowledge talks, wisdom listens.

  • @briansolly
    @briansolly 5 років тому +445

    joe gets silent when its time to discuss quantum mechanics...

    • @m35926
      @m35926 5 років тому +55

      Which is a pity because he's an expert from his experience on DMT

    • @MarshallLore
      @MarshallLore 5 років тому +29

      ook at his face. he cant even remember what question he asked the guy

    • @Tetarkall
      @Tetarkall 5 років тому +13

      Of course he does do you fully understand it? The worlds best people are only scratching the surface lol

    • @nathanlucca1515
      @nathanlucca1515 5 років тому +67

      Yeah Joe Rogan is so dumb for not being able to fully understand these advanced concepts that he doesn’t even study fuck Joe Rogan

    • @jonasdamion1627
      @jonasdamion1627 5 років тому +1

      @@nathanlucca1515 love u

  • @michaellesser8043
    @michaellesser8043 5 років тому +78

    The dude is a genius when it comes to communicating with a broad variety of guests

    • @thetedmang
      @thetedmang 5 років тому +5

      If by communicating, you mean remaining silent, then yeah, he's great at it.

    • @mbtisocialclub
      @mbtisocialclub 4 роки тому +17

      thetedmang you should try it then

    • @matthewrickard5050
      @matthewrickard5050 3 роки тому

      @@mbtisocialclub legend

    • @rosedragon108
      @rosedragon108 3 роки тому

      i'm beginning to 'hear' that lol. jre has been recommended to me for yrs.

  • @got2kittys
    @got2kittys 3 роки тому +1

    Of all the really great JRE interviews, this has to be my personal favorite.

  • @wlodell
    @wlodell 3 роки тому +24

    This is one of the better and well done Joe Rogan podcast interviews.
    Always been intrigued by ‘consciousness’ and how it fits in terms of existentialism. No MD’s in psychiatry can actually define or say. Yet, the common man will tell you that there is a connection between consciousness and the soul. Lot’s of luck getting a scientific explanation on that!

    • @justinlloyd6475
      @justinlloyd6475 Рік тому

      The soul could be completely explained scientifically.. like he explains in this interview, that understanding of what consciousness is, is beyond the scope of current mathematical, macro or quantum physics and it needs more research. Don't be ignorant

    • @MalikTheMessenger
      @MalikTheMessenger 5 місяців тому

      Even in the show breaking bad Walt and his Colleague could get it down to a mathematical number but could not say exactly what it was. If Hollywood looks at it that way I doubt mainstream science sees it no different.

  • @MoonGables
    @MoonGables 5 років тому +208

    Unintentional ASMR: Mathman Trying to Measure Consciousness

  • @SpliefDaGrief
    @SpliefDaGrief 4 роки тому +270

    Imagine knowing as much about mathematics, physics, biology and neuroscience as this guy. Incredible

    • @Ray2311us
      @Ray2311us 4 роки тому +3

      PizzaBert_ I’d be the next Elon Musk

    • @jacklawpants7944
      @jacklawpants7944 2 роки тому +4

      @@Ray2311us penrose is older than musk, so if anything Elon musk is the next penrose.

    • @ekay4495
      @ekay4495 2 роки тому +22

      @@jacklawpants7944 Not even close, Elon thinks of stuff, doesn't mean he's a scientist of this caliber or even close

    • @oommcc
      @oommcc 2 роки тому +2

      Well, I can tell you, from memory, the main 11 of both Real Madrid and Barcelona since 1991 to now...

    • @MICKEYISLOWD
      @MICKEYISLOWD 2 роки тому +10

      @@jacklawpants7944 Must is only an engineer. Penrose is one of the smartest guys on Earth...Geez!

  • @user-bp4ly2qm6o
    @user-bp4ly2qm6o 2 роки тому +10

    Math was always so hard for me in school , good study habits helped me pass other than that I never wanna see high level math problems again.

  • @crypticscrutiny1153
    @crypticscrutiny1153 3 роки тому +4

    Still watching this and sometimes I think he's lost the original question in his explanations but he always brings it back. Sharp mind. Am half his age and his is far sharper than mine will ever be.

  • @EzziiG
    @EzziiG 5 років тому +156

    I have no idea what he's talking about but I will watch this video anyway

    • @janetesantos5143
      @janetesantos5143 4 роки тому +1

      Sneintzville same 😩😅

    • @timfondiggle2582
      @timfondiggle2582 4 роки тому +4

      Gay sex, him and Joe are flirting hardcore they're just being super low-key about it.

  • @PaulSteenOriginal
    @PaulSteenOriginal 5 років тому +309

    Holy shit, this guy went GODMODE on the maths of existence .

    • @johnd.2803
      @johnd.2803 5 років тому +6

      Paul Steenhuisen he basically said he has no idea.

    • @PaulSteenOriginal
      @PaulSteenOriginal 5 років тому +17

      John Demchuk Basically, but I also feel like he touches up on the programming/philosophy aspect of decision making skills and processing evolution of the human brain and how adapting it to systems seems hard AF because programs are usually back and forth based on a pre-determined function/algorithm. He’s big smart 👌🏻

    • @PaulSteenOriginal
      @PaulSteenOriginal 5 років тому +4

      jdisco1 hahah true, i was just a bit excited.

    • @bindaredundat-uv6wz
      @bindaredundat-uv6wz 5 років тому +6

      80% OF US DONT UNDERSTAND MATH !! THE OTHER 30 % KNOW A LITTLE !!!

    • @PaulSteenOriginal
      @PaulSteenOriginal 5 років тому +2

      bindare dundat hahahah good one! Math is easy if you practice it from trigonometric functions/unit circle and sprout from there

  • @nichhodge8503
    @nichhodge8503 Рік тому +30

    I studied quantum physics at Cambridge University and I remember when hearing about quantum entanglement and also particles acting differently when being observed for the first time it blew my mind at what goes on at the quantum level. And even to this day quantum physics can always end up mesmerising me

    • @zach3096
      @zach3096 11 місяців тому +3

      Sure ya did😂

    • @GM-fn3ku
      @GM-fn3ku 9 місяців тому

      Cambridge grad with the grammar of a wooden spoon

    • @ryuunosuk3
      @ryuunosuk3 4 місяці тому

      I always thought that quantum particles acted differently when being observed because the very act of "observing" modifies the system, like shooting a light wave in the system and wait for the light to come back to know what is going on there, by the time the light is back the system was modified by said light.

  • @hamzailarzeg
    @hamzailarzeg Рік тому +12

    It's amazing to me how precise about his use of terminology.
    His personality has been shaped with mathematical logic

  • @jackderaway
    @jackderaway 4 роки тому +326

    Guy gets three words out...
    Me: Yep this dude knows what’s up.

    • @memegazer
      @memegazer 4 роки тому +3

      Either consciousness is a decidable or consciousness is undecidable.
      If consciousness is decidable there is an algorithm for it.
      If consciousness is undecidable then we can never know if we are actually conscious.

    • @ts4gv
      @ts4gv 2 роки тому +1

      @@memegazer i like this comment... but hypothetically, we could learn everything there is to know about consciousness & still not be able to generate or manufacture it. One can imagine a few scenarios in which that might be the case (many of which don't rely on the presence of gods/spirits/the supernatural)

    • @memegazer
      @memegazer 2 роки тому +2

      @@ts4gv
      That depends on what is meant by the term consciousness.
      Indeed it is easy to imagine a case where thinking machines would never be classified as consciousness...but that does not change the fact that we are still left with only two options.
      Either consciousness is computable...in which case there is an algorithm for it.
      Or we define consciousness as not computable...which will mean we will never be able to define and quantify the difference between biological intelligence and machine intelligence.
      It is really just a matter of preference.

    • @ts4gv
      @ts4gv 2 роки тому

      @@memegazer One can imagine scenarios in which we could understand everything there is to know about consciousness, know that it cannot be generated from an algorithm on any machine, never have the tools to generate it ourselves (other than advanced cloning), and to be able to fully classify machine intelligence from biological intelligence.
      Think along the lines of “consciousness juice” in the brain, or weird quantum level stuff-anything in which physical reality is essential to generating consciousness.
      Unlikely, but a fun thought experiment. That’s my only point.

  • @Lukken
    @Lukken 5 років тому +76

    Joe Rogan introduced him and literally said nothing for 15 minutes lol Gold!

    • @stormtraders
      @stormtraders 3 роки тому +2

      He prob thought the same as we all do. “Damn i feel dumb and I can’t see any opening on whatever i may ask” 🤣

  • @ericmiller5231
    @ericmiller5231 Рік тому +4

    I feel like he'd be such a good person to take lectures from because he explains everything in a way you can understand and clearly instead of trying to sound like the smartest and be the smartest especially when he acknowledges alot of other people's theory's that could all play a role in understanding conciousness

  • @VLAD-THE-IMPALOR
    @VLAD-THE-IMPALOR Рік тому +4

    First line
    "Everyone should hv an opinion because we are all conscious "
    💯% agree with him

  • @raphexe
    @raphexe 4 роки тому +16

    why I love Joe's podcast ? no bullshit, no background music, just interesting people and good honest conversations.

  • @BoManton
    @BoManton 4 роки тому +39

    This is such a great example of when someone is very smart and has a lot of experience with a subject that there is a lot doubt in truly knowing something and there is humility and integrity in saying he’s not sure.

    • @wademichalski768
      @wademichalski768 Рік тому +2

      absolute pursuit of truth requires no ego! i agree

  • @JessieReyez
    @JessieReyez 3 роки тому +79

    the similarities between creation and lattices and the golden ratio are so interesting

    • @tonypollock9900
      @tonypollock9900 3 роки тому +7

      Stop playing

    • @oneidea1121
      @oneidea1121 3 роки тому +2

      @@tonypollock9900 Hahah

    • @davomccranko
      @davomccranko 2 роки тому

      Hmm. K I gotta look up lattices now. An interesting exercise is to ponder how the golden ratio and consciousness are 'related'...

    • @freedoobies5757
      @freedoobies5757 2 роки тому +1

      @@davomccranko if you think about it, it’s all related

    • @fukemnukem1525
      @fukemnukem1525 2 роки тому

      @@freedoobies5757 Agreed. If the big bang is correct....then everything in our universe shared the same location at one point.

  • @raghul2k
    @raghul2k 3 роки тому +17

    He wins the Nobel Prize and I wanted to hear him talking to JR, again.

  • @williamf9992
    @williamf9992 4 роки тому +31

    This man has glimpsed something profound and deep about reality.

    • @SuperWush
      @SuperWush 4 роки тому +1

      A visceral experience through and through.

  • @jonchicoine
    @jonchicoine 5 років тому +30

    Props to joe for letting his guest speak and not interrupting...

    • @georgegraham6069
      @georgegraham6069 4 роки тому +1

      Joe couldn't interrupt as he didn't know wtf Penrose was talking about.

  • @gabagool3161
    @gabagool3161 2 роки тому +8

    "I don't want to make a statement I don't really know" I respect these guys so much for this as much as I do for their brilliance

  • @areyouswerious
    @areyouswerious Рік тому +19

    We pretend to understand by accepting what we are told, or we decide that the explanation is not the explanation. We exist and function by adopting various forms of faith. This hit home. Brilliant.

  • @e.1220
    @e.1220 4 роки тому +88

    Joe's face looks so stunned as if someone is explaining what a cellphone is to someone in Ancient Egypt.

    • @jacobhoover1654
      @jacobhoover1654 4 роки тому +1

      Egyptians had wireless charging & electricity so not sure what's ur point

    • @Sean-yr4se
      @Sean-yr4se 4 роки тому +6

      @@jacobhoover1654 he said ANCIENT Egypt

    • @jacobhoover1654
      @jacobhoover1654 4 роки тому +2

      @@Sean-yr4se pyramids generated electricity, granite ionized the air & the dolomite increases conductivity.

    • @Sean-yr4se
      @Sean-yr4se 4 роки тому

      @@jacobhoover1654 are you talking about an ANCIENT STONE PYRAMID?

    • @jacobhoover1654
      @jacobhoover1654 4 роки тому +2

      @@Sean-yr4se slightly radioactive granite ionized air, internal dolomite plating is conductive & shields from cosmic Ray's while hiding background radiation from the granite.

  • @endlessvoid7952
    @endlessvoid7952 4 роки тому +6

    This is absolutely fascinating. I'm immediately turning to the full podcast after the clip finishes

  • @meonline2549
    @meonline2549 3 місяці тому +3

    Roger Penrose's List of Contributions
    1. Moore-Penrose inverse
    2. Twistor theory
    3. Spin network
    4. Abstract index notation
    5. Black hole bomb
    6. Geometry of spacetime
    7. Cosmic censorship
    8. Illumination problem
    9. Weyl curvature hypothesis
    10. Penrose inequalities
    11. Penrose interpretation of quantum mechanics
    12. Diósi-Penrose model
    13. Newman-Penrose formalism
    14. GHP formalism
    15. Penrose diagram
    16. Penrose inequality
    17. Penrose process
    18. Penrose tiling
    19. Penrose triangle
    20. Penrose stairs
    21. Penrose-Hawking singularity theorems
    22. Penrose graphical notation
    23. Penrose transform
    24. Penrose-Terrell effect
    pp-wave spacetime
    25. Schrödinger-Newton equations
    26. Orch-OR/Penrose-Lucas argument
    27. FELIX experiment
    28. Trapped surface
    29. Andromeda paradox
    30. Conformal cyclic cosmology
    List of awards
    1. Adams Prize (1966)
    2. Heineman Prize (1971)
    3. Fellow of the Royal Society (1972)
    4. Eddington Medal (1975)
    5. Royal Medal (1985)
    6. Wolf Prize (1988)
    7. Dirac Medal (IOP) (1989)
    8. Albert Einstein Medal (1990)
    9. Naylor Prize and Lectureship (1991)
    10. Knight Bachelor (1994)
    11. James Scott Prize Lectureship (1997-2000)
    12. Karl Schwarzschild Medal (2000)
    13. De Morgan Medal (2004)
    14. Dalton Medal (2005)
    15. Copley Medal (2008)
    16. Fonseca Prize (2011)
    17. Nobel Prize in Physics (2020)

  • @george-rq8uy
    @george-rq8uy 3 роки тому +9

    "I'm a big fan of your work. I've read much of your work." - Joe Rogan, nicest guy in all of GR.

  • @mrmunson5423
    @mrmunson5423 4 роки тому +23

    Joe is awesome, he lets his guests actually talk and he is genuinely interested in what his guests have to say. He often gives his most intelligent guests new ways of thinking.

  • @jimmygillard
    @jimmygillard 5 років тому +4

    Oh my word, can't wait to listen to the podcast tomorrow. This should be a fascinating one.

  • @kashyappatel3458
    @kashyappatel3458 2 роки тому +9

    Very interesting theory. It does sound very reasonable to think micro tubules play a role in consciousness given that they allow the cell to restructure itself, move key molecules within itself, and even move around in its environment. It would be very interesting to see whether the actions of a micro tubule (the way it grows and restructures itself) are a consequence of some underlying consciousness software program of the cell or whether its actions are driven completely by physical laws and through that consciousness arises.

    • @ZT_Performance
      @ZT_Performance Рік тому

      I would imagine it's a software program derived/evolved from physical law. Within the confines. Is there something we are missing or I am missing. I can't see how there's an outside or radical cause we can't or don't understand.

  • @pauladam2853
    @pauladam2853 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you so much Joe Rogan. Sir Roger Penrose is an amazing free mind. So brilliant. Regarding Joe Rogan, he never ceases to surprise us with the most eclectic guests and subjects.
    I think Joe Rogan is blessed by a very sharp and curious mind.
    The best by far.
    Paul

  • @NewWorldStoner
    @NewWorldStoner 5 років тому +136

    Will need to listen to this again a few times to comprehend it lol

    • @alanbolton7803
      @alanbolton7803 5 років тому +6

      He didn't explain it. Don't waste your time

    • @NewWorldStoner
      @NewWorldStoner 5 років тому +11

      What I got from this is basically Microtubials are responsible for consciousness, but we can never recreate consciousness with mathematics and we lack much of an understanding of what consciousness actually is, but we see Fibonacci sequences in the Microtubials which we think has something to do with where our conscious experience originates

    • @nkondrashov
      @nkondrashov 5 років тому

      did you?

    • @zimbabwe_twinnedwithanfield
      @zimbabwe_twinnedwithanfield 5 років тому

      basically he just kicks the can down the road, when you deny god its impossible to explain conscionus... ps: I DONt WANT an argument but a god debate with facts please.....

    • @wrcz
      @wrcz 5 років тому

      @@NewWorldStoner microtubules

  • @brodybaird9118
    @brodybaird9118 4 роки тому +7

    Joe’s face starting at 10:23 is golden. Anybody who’s tried to understand and explain consciousness to somebody in this type of way will understand.

  • @JamesBermingham
    @JamesBermingham 2 роки тому +5

    The depth of thought in this mans amazing brain... is Astonishing!!. Sir Roger Penrose. Sometimes you need to make a short story long. His level of consciousness is off the scale. ✊

  • @koolankush6300
    @koolankush6300 3 роки тому +36

    He won the Nobel Prize

  • @royce1040
    @royce1040 3 роки тому +3

    I learn so much information from your interviews, don’t ever stop

  • @interzone2010
    @interzone2010 4 роки тому +8

    Success! This morning I finally managed to get both my shoe laces the same length before tying them together. Bliss!

  • @hayleyelizabeth7895
    @hayleyelizabeth7895 Рік тому +2

    When the video pans back to Joe i’m finding myself sitting just like he is. Just completely hanging on to every word this man is saying. This whole thing is just so interesting. I’ve been on this conciousness and history of said for a while and this is just such a great video. Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @ephadrinee1514
    @ephadrinee1514 2 роки тому +5

    That went straight over my head. My brain is hurting trying to understand that. Now im going to listen to the podcast.

  • @chiefkief2579
    @chiefkief2579 3 роки тому +5

    Man we need more of these podcasts just amazing 👏 and humbled

  • @tytorubio3271
    @tytorubio3271 3 роки тому +17

    I think the answer on consciousness should be searched via meditation and relaxation.
    I once was relaxed so much that all i was left was a tiny spot of consciousness somewhere inside my brain. If you go that far weird stuff can happen.i had an out of body experience, probably stepped into another layer of this reality. My consciousness 100% for sure didnt fall asleep.
    Opened my "eyes", somebody was already waiting for me, i was brought somewhere, was tested to see how i could hold myself when bombarded telephatically i think. Things work different there, more instantaneous, i failed and was brought back.
    When i opened my eyes in this reality, i felt i hadnt slept, that this did happen and i was mentally soo drained i just broke down..
    It was the toughest experience i ever had. We need to explore that place/state of being. I feel its important.

    • @PoopyPolice
      @PoopyPolice Рік тому +2

      Hi! I know it’s been a long time since you commented, I’m just really curious about this subject :) do you believe where you went was real? Or do you think it was just an aspect of the brain?

    • @justinlloyd6475
      @justinlloyd6475 Рік тому +2

      ​@Hank do you believe where you go when you dream is real?
      I think it's good to know that when dreaming, one's brain releases a few different chemicals to keep the body from moving and also to numb the mind so it can re-energize during sleep. I think when meditating, one isn't flooded with those chemicals and has a much clearer and imaginative view on their dream state, during the meditation. My point being that the clarity of meditative dreams might be so convincingly real feeling that it can be overwhelming. Compared to your sleepy drugged up dream state in sleep.
      Bare in mind; I am a Christian, 7th day Adventist, so I believe consciousness to be extremely complex and completely reliant on the soul. I mean the visions that people speak of in the Bible are extremely representative of some meditative experiences.
      Anyways, I hope that my words can help you with some new interpretation of what is maybe happening- or that I can invoke a new idea in your head that may lead you to a satisfactory conclusion 😊

    • @Cradle_of_Bodom
      @Cradle_of_Bodom Рік тому +1

      Keep trying! Never stop trying! One day you’ll make it to the other side and be able to stay there for good! I’ve had very many similar experiences but not quite that far deep. 😊

    • @jakenav5280
      @jakenav5280 11 місяців тому +1

      Jaw dropped. I've experienced something eerily similar at a young age. If this is real, if you are still there, reply to me. If I could compare your experience with mine I might get closer to understanding just what it was.

  • @shuddupeyaface
    @shuddupeyaface 3 роки тому +15

    They spent 7 years trying to teach a dolphin to read. He just smiled, laughed and went about his way. The little snail in the corner of the tank, is now poised to take over the world.

  • @johns1625
    @johns1625 2 роки тому +18

    Joe you gotta interview him again! You must hear him talk about his model of Conformal Cyclic Cosmology, which claims there is evidence of supermassive black hole collisions in the cosmic microwave background radiation in the form of concentric circles from a previous universe. The theory says the absolute end of the universe (all black holes evaporate and nothing of mass exists) is conformally identical to the big bang. So the entire known cosmos from big bang to end is nothing but a series of infinite universes occurring one after another. Super interesting and IT MAKES SENSE!

    • @leor7870
      @leor7870 10 місяців тому

      The latest Webb telescope images point to the fact that there is some merit to his theory.

  • @Ziplock9000
    @Ziplock9000 4 роки тому +6

    Penrose is amazing. Thanks Joe for this and many other fantastic podcasts.

  • @jonnyrock1580
    @jonnyrock1580 5 років тому +11

    The amount of topics he covers is awesome. Unreal.

  • @Tussinette
    @Tussinette 2 роки тому +4

    This is an amazing interview. 👏

  • @MrMattBarks
    @MrMattBarks 3 роки тому

    I listened to this two nights in row and fell asleep both times before finishing. He has a very calming voice.

  • @SuperToughnut
    @SuperToughnut 4 роки тому +5

    These interviews with smart, sciency people are the best interviews!

  • @mikec9156
    @mikec9156 4 роки тому +3

    Took the words right out of my mouth!! Well said.

  • @ericmiller5231
    @ericmiller5231 Рік тому +7

    He explained that in such a way for everybody to understand instead of trying to be the smartest person in the room very well Sao

  • @albus_g6148
    @albus_g6148 3 роки тому +1

    I do miss seeing Joe rogan full interviews on UA-cam.