How to tie a Palomar Knot for Fishing (and avoid mistakes most anglers make!)

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • With the double strand through the eye, learning how to tie a Palomar knot properly creates one of the strongest knots in fishing.
    Tying it properly also helps that legendary strength stand up to more punishment than knots that only have a single strand of leader or fishing line passing through the eye.
    So why don't more anglers tie on their flies using a Palomar knot? After all, it isn't much harder to tie than an overhand knot...
    Probably a major reason is that the various diagrams and demos often miss out the important little moves that stop things getting tangled up with the fur and feathers of a fly. Also, as with any knot, knowing how to properly tighten down the Palomar knot without spoiling the construction of the knot - or damaging the line - are important details.
    John Pearson uses this knot almost exclusively to attach the flies to his tippet and leaders. He also uses it in many other branches of fishing too.
    It's an essential tool to have in your armoury - whatever brand of fishing you enjoy. Here, he demonstrates how to make sure you can even included it in your fly fishing.
    Paul

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  • @deniseandmarkfirestine7443
    @deniseandmarkfirestine7443 Рік тому +2

    The Palomar knot is the absolute best and strongest knot! I’ve fished all over and caught some big fish and never has the palomar knot failed me. I would never bet against the palomar knot!!

  • @neilmcghee1016
    @neilmcghee1016 3 роки тому +3

    Well, I will definitely practice this over Christmas!

  • @AlawiAlAlawi
    @AlawiAlAlawi 9 місяців тому +1

    I beg to differ with you because I wish for all of us to learn, picked up a suffix hard mono 0.35mm and did a test where I purposely made sure not to cut through the mono when tying the knot and dressed it beautifully like you did and it snapped 4/5 times against having the loop go over the hook and the whole knot making a fliiped figure 8, then slowly pulling down each line alone, first the mainline then pulling the tag end then moistening the knot before cinching it down.
    I appreciate your effort from 1 angler to another, but I am putting a prize of 100$ publically here for someone to prove to me that your way of having the loop between the knot and the hook is better than the gauranteed take it to the bank Palamor knot with the loop going over the hook and the knot then cinching it down.

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  8 місяців тому +2

      That's really interesting and puzzling - because over half the time when John (in the video) deliberately pulls for a break in his palomar - tied as in the demo - the line actually snaps somewhere else than at the knot itself. Thanks for contributing to the discussion and sharing your findings (and for the prize money offer!). Paul

  • @jamescooper2618
    @jamescooper2618 2 роки тому

    Palomar is a great knot. Try the Pitzen with doubled line. You may be surprised.

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  2 роки тому

      Cool - I'll have to give it a go (a regular Pitzen is already one of my favourites!). Paul

  • @russellevans5726
    @russellevans5726 2 місяці тому +1

    Great segment on knots as I have been away from fishing for over 12yrs this has brought me and refreshed my memory of knots back to me and give me confidence in my own knots

  • @traumatose6003
    @traumatose6003 2 роки тому

    That's not a Palomar knot. Why do folks try and overcomplicate things? Not sure what that mess was he ended up with. But it wasn't a Palomar knot.

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  2 роки тому +3

      I'm sorry to fact check the comment - but if your Palomar knot doesn't end up like the one in the video... it's not a Palomar knot. I'm also curious as to what is complex about tying an overhand knot in a loop of line and then putting the hook through the loop?

    • @bluesetter4204
      @bluesetter4204 2 роки тому

      Sure is

    • @thedon9670
      @thedon9670 Рік тому +1

      There's always some clown.

    • @Day12My
      @Day12My Рік тому

      yea it is

  • @AfzaalWardag
    @AfzaalWardag 27 днів тому

    I just started fishing
    Thanks for guide 👍

  • @johnarcher9480
    @johnarcher9480 Рік тому +1

    I’ve always been shown to let the loop slide DOWN the line, with the loop stopping at the top, not the bottom.
    Interesting.

  • @ShorrockPaul
    @ShorrockPaul 11 місяців тому

    I am so confused about this simple knot.. a lot of people say under no circumstances pull it like you did, but rather after pulling hook through let the big loop come all the way over the TOP of the overhand knot. Ie let the loop lay along the main standing line above the overhand and then cinch it down so the big loop tightens down on top of the overhand.. then I see others cinch it up from below the overhand knots as you have done here...

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  11 місяців тому +1

      All I can say is, doing it this way in tippet means that (as often as not) when you pull for a break, the tippet will snap somewhere else than the knot (in other words, the knot is no longer the weakest part of the line)

  • @120booker
    @120booker 3 роки тому +2

    I love this knot. I lost a big fish when a "blood knot" failed on me, this one never has. Thanks for showing me a better way to do it

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  3 роки тому

      You're very welcome Andy and cheers for the positive feedback :) Paul

  • @dannow6674
    @dannow6674 Рік тому

    The improved Palomar knot and the double uni knot are stronger. Another good one is the double pitzen.

  • @jelenagirdauskiene2300
    @jelenagirdauskiene2300 Рік тому

    double uni knot is just sligtly stronger but it is very bulky knot ant only for thin lines

  • @vernongilmore4632
    @vernongilmore4632 2 роки тому +1

    Double san diagonal jamm knot

  • @markjoyce1720
    @markjoyce1720 Рік тому

    just fantastic you present things very well and clearly thanks for taking the time and trouble to do these uploads.Much appreciated.

  • @steverpcb
    @steverpcb Рік тому

    This is a great tip as when using it as part of a Rufus knot, it is the most difficult part to get right !

  • @alphabob12000
    @alphabob12000 3 місяці тому

    just do the knots

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  3 місяці тому

      @@alphabob12000 And they say TikTok is ruining attention span 🤪😂

  • @patrickoleary6607
    @patrickoleary6607 Рік тому

    The "Double Uni" real good knot.

  • @dylansago7020
    @dylansago7020 4 місяці тому

    I was dragging logs in with this knot yesterday, line will break first for sure

  • @hereusethis
    @hereusethis Рік тому

    Just started watching your videos. I'm loving them and loving your teaching vibe. Thanks!

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  Рік тому

      Really glad you're finding them useful and thank you for letting me know that we're doing something right for you. Paul.

  • @theowenssailingdiary5239
    @theowenssailingdiary5239 Рік тому

    I've done the test and double uni beats it.. On this planet anyway..

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  Рік тому +1

      Fascinating. Just out of interest, when you tie just a Palomar and pull for a break, whereabouts is the line breaking?

  • @paula.2422
    @paula.2422 3 роки тому +1

    great detail 👏 thank you 😊

  • @Day12My
    @Day12My Рік тому

    5:25....Double Pitzen is stronger. This test has been done! How much money have you lost in 2 years?

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  Рік тому

      None so far, but would be very glad to in exchange for a stronger knot 😊

    • @Day12My
      @Day12My Рік тому

      @@FishingDiscoveries ua-cam.com/video/OafzD5XjPGc/v-deo.html

  • @burtonedwards2120
    @burtonedwards2120 Рік тому

    Your explaining it far more complicated than necessarily.
    Put a loop through the eye of the hook, tie an overhand knot, snug the knot to the eye, slip the hook through the loop and draw it tight. Simple.

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  Рік тому +1

      If you tighten a Palomar knot as you describe (especially using fine tippet) you're almost certain to damage the line and lose a massive amount of the breaking strain. People experiencing knot failure as a result of following the steps you describe are the exact reason for making this video. If the line you're using is thick enough to not suffer any noticeable weakness, then keep doing what you're doing; for everyone else, the detail in the video might help diagnose the problem and give a solution.

    • @burtonedwards2120
      @burtonedwards2120 Рік тому +1

      @@FishingDiscoveries
      Unfortunately, I don’t fly fish, I could never get the back of it. I am in the deep deep south of Louisiana and do a lot of catfishing and bass. So I don’t use a tippet, whatever that is?

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  Рік тому

      @@burtonedwards2120 You're good to go then 😃

  • @johnlieu
    @johnlieu 2 роки тому

    Perfect tip! Thanks for the share.

  • @AmyWinehouse.914
    @AmyWinehouse.914 2 роки тому

    No so easy on a size 16.

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  2 роки тому

      I'm curious as to how so AW? Unless you are using tippet that is so thick you can't thread it twice through the hook-eye...but then again, because you preserve more of the breaking strain of the tippet, so you can use thinner line for the same strength. Once threaded, it's actually easier to stroke all the parts of the knot forward over the hook when that hook is small - compared to a big hook (perhaps with a big fly dressed on it too). Paul

  • @Simoncorse
    @Simoncorse 2 роки тому

    Super ! Merci

  • @basshunter8206
    @basshunter8206 Рік тому +1

    Stop yaking and show the dang knot. I got tired of trying to understand half the stuff he said that didn't matter. Just tie the knot.

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  Рік тому

      The point of the video is to help make informed choices on which knot (and how to avoid pitfalls). There's a clue to that content where the thumbnail says "in depth analysis". Shorter vids of ours would probably include words like "fast demo" or similar for the quick-hit versions.
      On that theme, there are probably hundreds of "quick demo" videos for Palomar knots on UA-cam, so if you need to know how the basics of tying it (whether or not you know/think you should use it) - then one of those videos would probably help you out right now.
      On the other hand, if your Palomar fails on you, it might be worth digging in to some of those small details to see whether it's the knot itself or how you're tying it.
      Tight lines,
      Paul

  • @barut0ff474
    @barut0ff474 2 роки тому +2

    Great knot but the Uni Knot is stronger

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  2 роки тому

      ...not in my tests (by a long way) but that's why it's good to have different options to suit everyone's tying style.

    • @bluesetter4204
      @bluesetter4204 2 роки тому

      Palomar is stronger by a long shot. That said, I tie uni knots most of the time and always double uni for attaching mono leaders to braid.

    • @thedon9670
      @thedon9670 Рік тому

      @@bluesetter4204 palomar and fg are both better options.

    • @johnarcher9480
      @johnarcher9480 Рік тому

      Double Uni is competitive, not so much a single uni.
      The Palomar will often NOT be the break point.
      No knot is stronger than that (though another may equal that).

    • @andreipetrescu603
      @andreipetrescu603 Рік тому

      ​@@bluesetter4204Double Uni trough the eye beats Palomar by a long shot in my test.

  • @keithevans6631
    @keithevans6631 Рік тому

    You tied the same loop that u said wasn't right...smh

    • @FishingDiscoveries
      @FishingDiscoveries  Рік тому

      I'm struggling to understand why you're shaking your head Keith - Of course he tied the same loop (it's the same knot after all). The point is how to avoid spoiling your Palomar by tightening it incorrectly (and how stroking everything forward in front of the fly/hook solves that). Paul

    • @keithevans6631
      @keithevans6631 Рік тому

      @@FishingDiscoveries o ok