Gortex or any other fabric will condensate or even soak through after hours of rain. I tend to use a tarp for extra shelter. I also use a lightweight bivvy bag over my sleeping bag as well.(Double up) I also use a synthetic bag as a down bag will get damp and fail during multi days out. Bivvies are warmer than tents, but are restricted to space. On long hikes tents are best. Bivvies are more fun especially in tight spots. I like using a tarp so the vented mesh doors can be open all night, reducing condensation. Star watching and breathing in fresh air is the best medicine. Just enjoy the adventure. Thanks for taking the time to make videos. It gets us motivated to get out there!
I would easily use that as an emergency shelter if I was in a situation I couldn't pitch a tent or lost it . But to be honest , at 57 , it would take me 30 minutes to get in , and after being set up , 30 seconds later I would have to go out for a pee 😅 . Thanks for the review !
Hi Dave, I think people need to realise UA-cam is not your main source of income, and with or without freebies you are doing it for the passion of helping others and the enjoyment you get from the outdoors, just like when you work with your scout troop, it’s all unpaid. What also makes a difference is you cover the good and the bad of what you get sent, there is no Sponsored by advert halfway through your video, and there is no pushing of Patreon or heavy pushing of affiliate links. Keep up what you are doing it is spot on, you can never please everyone but you by far please the majority👍. I am not Dave’s Wife nor do I work for Nortent😂
The issue is that for the weight, you can take a tent. Reasons I can think to have a bivy: 1. climbing and camping on ledges. 2. Soldiering. 3.Maybe as a tent backup, in a situation where a tent failure might be really dangerous, it is clear going to be fine in almost any wind.
Thanks Dave for another gear review and taking the time to give us your first thoughts on the new Nortent bivi. I love gear and gear reviews and your style of presentation and humour. If others don’t like this type of content they can choose not to watch it! I love Nortent gear and thanks for giving us your take on their stuff. Best regards and I look forward to more of your reviews in the future. J
Looks pretty nice, though not as light as you'd expect for a bivy vs a tent. I have an OR bivy made of AscentShell or whatever OR calls its breathable fabric, and it is amazingly breathable -- so breathable that you can squeeze the air out through the fabric when packing it up, yet it's waterproof. IMO the most pleasant way to enjoy a bivy is to combine it with a pair of light tarps, like a 1.5x1 meter size. That makes for a good size to make a giant vestibule yet weighs very little. But the main benefit you get from that approach is flexibility, since you can pick a bivy spot pretty much anywhere, then just rig the tarps around it however you want when it's raining. That said, I think it would be very cool see if Nortent will be ambitious enough to make a tent using that breathable fabric to make a lightweight version of the the PC Verne. :)
Great video David. Head entrance is a preference for me. Bivvys are discreet and I have used mine in places you wouldn't dare pitch a tent for the risk of being spotted and confronted. Excellent in hot environments especially when midges/mosquito are a problem. I've used mine in cites across the globe and saved a fortune on accommodation. I think my bivvy is called 'The Fox Hole'. Not a consideration for most, but I am proud my bivvy was British made. Sadly, most of my gear is old technology as I struggle to come to grips with purchasing stuff 'Designed in Britain made in .....'.Keep up the great work and looking forward to bivvying with you should you decide it's for you. Final point, a bivvy comes into it's own if you're like me, wanting a drink in a village pub and don't drink and drive.
Thanks for the review and your channel ! For my part I'm using both tent, hammock and bivy. Tent for when you want security / cosy atmosphere / privacy, hammock for comfort (yes I have a Warbonnet), but I like bivy for simplicity, star gazing, and when either you don't have enough place or... you should not camp there (bivy is so easy and fast to roll... and it's not really camping). I am using an Outdoor Research Alpine Ascentshell bivy which weights only 590g size 210 x 71 cm and 31 x 9 cm packed so way lighter then the Nortent's (to me a bivy makes sense if it's lighter than a tent). It has also a side entrance, mesh, and breathable fabric. It only lacks a vent at the foot end (like the MIllet DryEdge), consequently condensation can appears depending on the weather. Regarding entrance under the rain... yes it's the big, big weak point, a tarp or a poncho can help. Regarding backpack and shoes, I let them outside with their own protection. More place inside :)
@@Fellmandave1 Thank you, you. By the way, I forgot to tell, Bivy is the only way to be in, to be with nature. I think being in a tent is a huge paradox when you go outside, walk sometime quite long, to finish in somehow a large plastic bag, with no contact with nature ! In a bivy you can see the surroundings, feel the air (and the cold !), smell. There's nothing comparable to wake-up directly in nature. When I am in my tent, it's frustrating to wake-up without being instantly outside. You know... You're not totally awake, you have to sit, then open the door, bend to look..... Well in a bivy just open your eyes and you're in :)
@@Fellmandave1 Exactly... I must say when it's freezing it's all but natural to go inside a bivy... Just looking at it in the cold and imagine yourself inside sounds crazy. BUT once inside with a good sleeping bag or quilt, you can warm-up quickly and then the magic happens : it's cold outside, but you're perfectly fine and warm (don't forget a good beanie / cap !). The stars are there. And later the wake-up : same magic, you're warm inside, and outside it's all white... There is no better wake-up :)
Hi Dave, using a gortex bivi in winter I experienced a lot of condensation my guess is the temperature differential between inside and outside. I now use a lightweight summer bivi over the top of the gortex one to prevent a single skin sleep system. It reduces condensation I discovered but I also use a synthetic quilt on top of the down quilt underneath in winter. I use a tarp if it's raining to sit under and keep everything dry. Atb Taff 👊
With the nature of modern ultralight silnylon one could argue that apart from niche applications that the bivvy has had its day. My regular solo tent is only 100 g heavier. I tried using a tarp for several trips over the course of a year, I sent the bivvy I had back after half a night of use. I didn't think I was claustrophobic until I tried sleeping in one. I found an altogether better option for ultralight trips and getting a 'connection'. All that said, I loved your video and was really pleased to see someone addressing the generally un-asked question - how do you get it and out in the rain.
Hi Dave, I reckon my creaking knees and hips can just about manage a tent. The fact you can’t sit up in a bivvy would be a deal breaker for me. Thanks for posting.
I'm really interested to see how you get on Dave. Like you I've never really got on with Bivi tents. I've really struggled with condensation in the past, so I'll be interested to see how the SKJUL fairs in that department. Really thorough video as always mate.
Unless it’s goretex or similar, you will get wet from condensation. I’ve have I think it was terra nova double hooped bivi which I love, works well. Point to note, you need an inflatable mattress to go inside. If it goes outside it has to be completely covered by the bivi, or you have a waterbed! Use an orange survival bag for your rucksack etc. I think you were lied to about the opening. With an end opening with covering flap, means you can open the end in the rain and use a gas stove, and stay dry!😊 You have complete peace of mind camping with a tent, or bothying in winter, as you can put your down bag (which can’t get wet) inside, if your tent/tarp leaks your good, apart from adding a layer of air & warmth. 😊It seems this is breathable so apart from no end opening, good.
I used to bivy all the time, mainly for the relative cost and weight savings. Today, I do not see the pt, unless you love them. As you say, there are so many light weight options, including tarp camping that the bivy option is now redundant. Mind you, I seem to have gained in claustrophobia; as I watched you I said nope. But in the past, loved it. I do see the appeal, but the practicality isn't there anymore. Bivys remain a cool option but not a necessary one.
I looked at things like the snugpac and vaude bivi as I do like the idea of a bivi but they were heavier than my tarptent notch. So couldn't really see any advantage in the use of them.
+1 for the Notch. Excellent piece of kit, and if you're a trecking pole user it's a no brainer in my view (lighter than these hooped bivvis (mine's under 800g all in) and plenty of space and 2 vestibules!
Looking forward to look at the comments later .I am on the fence too but I will give any thing a second chance great video . look forward to the next video to see how you’ve got on .sorry but I left a message back to that Greg you may have seen my comment but people like him make my blood boil. I don’t understand why people leave comments like that .Great review again.can I ask is there straps underneath for a mat? Or roll mat?
I'm sure those things have their place. However, it would be a horrible thing to get in there in the pouring rain. Now... at that point shelter is shelter... but wow. My thinking is that these products shine in a kinder sort of element. Thanks for the share, I still want one... go figure?
Great review Dave I might have to order one I really like the look of it. I’ve got a Rab Ridge Raider and love it but it’s a bit awkward to crawl inside it from the front. Luckily I’m only small 😂I only really use mine in the summer so I can sit outside and enjoy the views. Take no notice of the negative comments mate it’s people like you that make the videos why I buy all my camping gear ATB Paul 👍
Cheers paul, I had a great night in it on saturday. I have limited experience of Bivys but this one seems to be everything you might need. Video out 15:30 today! Cheers and thanks for commenting.
Fitting in a tight spot or stealth camping are the only plus points, you need a tarp then your the same weight as tent. If you're bringing tarp then use a normal bivvy bag to save the weight of poles. Nice to see the test in the garden pre testing too🤣
Dave firstly I've followed you and your fantastic channel for a year or so now and i find the content extremely enjoyable and informative, But i just don't get the idea of the bivvy, let's be honest it's more of a fair weather thing, the idea of sleeping out under the stars is the Only positive i can see, the fact to get the full benefit out the bivvy its best used with a tarp is defeating the object, by the time you have your bivvy poles,pegs, guide ropes Tarp and more rope its going to weigh the same if not more than a good 1man tent, not to mention the time putting it all together, Tent All Day and Night for me 👍 id just like to finish by saying Top Shout for mentioning Prostrate Test to one of your follower's, Hopefully by bringing the subject up it might ring a bell to more people, and save more lives 👍
I get you totally on the tarp and bivi. I guess I pitched in the rain and tried it to 'train hard, fight easy'. Interesting about the prostate, as urinary frequency has propped up several times in the comments. I might do a piece on that, bring on the rubber gloves! Dont worry, no graphic video of that.... thanks for the support.
@@Fellmandave1😂😂😂 oh Davey that reply tickled me am still chuckling writing this 😅 but yeah I think it would be really beneficial if you did a section about Awareness of getting checked out and Especially if your going toilet frequently, oh by the way I forgot to wish you and your Family a very Happy and Healthy New Year, All the Best buddy 👍
Tried a hooped bivvy once, hated it. In good weather its not too bad bht how often do we get that 😂 i preffered the aplkit hunka xl. Less claustrophobic but obviously more exposed.
As someone that's fairly claustrophobic, theres no chance I could use an bivvy as adventurous as it sounds. The TN Laser compact is about as small as I can manage and even then it was a push in winds when it's slapping you in the face haha.
I’ve gone through the rabbit hole of Bivy tents many many times thinking it’s a good way to simplify. But then I get ready to go for it and chicken out. Just don’t think it carries the comfort I’m looking for when out. I think I’d prefer to just be under a tarp.
I've always wanted to like bivi camping but it never works out. It's cramped, condensation is always a problem and in bad weather it's very impractical unless you're a contortionist or you pair it with a tarp. At that point you might just add well invest in a decent tent. That being said i enjoyed your review but not for me 👍
Hi Dave Interesting bivy, lots of nice features for sure, but two hoops and a guy line, too much like a small tent, still like it as a bivy but not for me, I think I will do a video on pros and cons of the different bivy’s, I have and use, As always a great review with good constructive moments on features etc Cheers from the bivy
@ thank you - I’m also large at 6’5” / 19stone. I have yet to find any bivi that can work for me and the pooch and instead have settled on using a DCF tarp and polycro groundsheet. For me, I must have my dog out of the weather and to be able to heat water, feed the hound and have enough space to use a pee-bottle and change into dry clothes. I really struggle to understand bivi camping ……… but there must be merits as I see folk using them.
I like the idea of the bivvys, for emergencies, packing away small, I would prefer them a bit wider and higher, and easier to get in, have some room to wriggle, and get out.. I just can't bring myself to ever take anything out with me smaller than a 2 man.
Well, "emergency" might be wrong to say , but they're good for long-distance hikes, if you're out for a few days or a week or whatever, you don't want to carry something big, and just need something to simply to sleep in and pack away quickly and continue hiking on.. And I've only ever owned Vango and OEX tents, that is all I've been able to afford. I hope to be able to buy the Ly 1 someday, that looks like the tent for me.
14:53 Quite a few cases of people using stoves inside bivis, it never ends well, even experienced outdoors people who should know better have perished through carbon monoxide poisoning.
Well i think this is about as good as it gets in the bivvy world ? If you run out of tents give it a go ? If you roof the thing with a 3×3 tarpaulin you might convince yourself it's a Palace? Which is kind of defeating the purpose? Some will like it others won't?
"compact" ? Its a bigger packed size than many tents 😂 For me, bivvy bags only make sense if they are smaller and lighter than a tent, although with some of the ultralight tents these days I guess their use case begins to decline. I've had a goretex bivvy bag for over 30 years but very rarely used it, would only consider it now on a guaranteed dry night or with some head area cover such as bus shelter, etc.
@Fellmandave1 no mate. Nortent kit does look good 👌 some of their sleeping bags look very innovative but for me a bivvy bag is just that, a bag. Lightweight, ridiculously packable. I use the sierra designs back country bivvy and the hunka xl. For me if I'm carrying something that heavy I'd go for a lightweight tent
Jesus another sponsored video with free gear, Paul Messner was right and glad he stopped that nonsense and reviews. I cannot be bother watching any of that because whats the point, of course you gonna like it. Most Uk youtubers went downhill past year, only few are true and real good ones.
@gregoryoutdoors If you watch my video Gregory, it is descriptive, not full of praise. Plus I only accept gear that I think I will use and enjoy. Thanks for your perspective.
why bother leaving comments like this if you don’t like it turn it off ??Greg why the hate go get a life you ✊✊ people like sit behind the keyboard.if I doesn’t interest me I don’t watch it but I don’t know this bloke from Adam.. the man done a video what have you done?
@@iainbickerstaff7099 Because its truth and hes been using (and many many other youtubers) and posting Nortents and other free or sponsored gear like for a long time now and im sick of that and many people too. It need to end. They should only review for what they actually pay for. Not spamming outdoor community with all that nonsense and bought thought by those companies if you know what I mean. He as a person he is a lovely guy and very good teacher also etc I know that too, so wish him all the best. Im just kinda feed up.
That’s really unfair. If you watched the video, you’d see that Dave hasn’t just pitched the bivi and said it’s great. He’s gone into detail about the specs, setup process, water resistance, and even tested getting in to see how it works in practice. Plus, Dave isn’t an avid bivi camper, so it’ll be interesting to follow his future videos to see if it wins him over. I also don’t understand the frustration with UA-camrs receiving free gear. It’s an opportunity for them to test and share their honest thoughts on products while creating new content for their audience. As long as the reviews are genuine, it’s a win-win. Sure, some creators may not fully test the gear they review, but if you’ve watched Dave’s content, you’ll know he puts effort into thorough and honest assessments.
It looks great, I just ordered one to try out !! Thank you for sharing good information!
@@MicaelKling Great. Let me know how you get on Michael.
Gortex or any other fabric will condensate or even soak through after hours of rain. I tend to use a tarp for extra shelter. I also use a lightweight bivvy bag over my sleeping bag as well.(Double up) I also use a synthetic bag as a down bag will get damp and fail during multi days out. Bivvies are warmer than tents, but are restricted to space. On long hikes tents are best. Bivvies are more fun especially in tight spots.
I like using a tarp so the vented mesh doors can be open all night, reducing condensation. Star watching and breathing in fresh air is the best medicine.
Just enjoy the adventure.
Thanks for taking the time to make videos. It gets us motivated to get out there!
All great tips, thanks Andrew! I have a lightweight breathable bivi I intend to try with a tarp. Cheers
Testing mine in snow soon 😬
@StephenJReid look forward to it. Much better than the back garden!
I would easily use that as an emergency shelter if I was in a situation I couldn't pitch a tent or lost it . But to be honest , at 57 , it would take me 30 minutes to get in , and after being set up , 30 seconds later I would have to go out for a pee 😅 . Thanks for the review !
there's a lot of older bladders appearing in these comments! 😬😬
@Fellmandave1 😅
Embrace the pee bottle gentlemen! But make sure the lid's on tight before you actually embrace it 😂
@richardbest6588 not in a bivy, a tent no problem 😉
You can try to use a pocho when getting inside, to cover the entry with the pocho and slide into the bivvy.
I always take a small tarp when bivvy camping ,I use my walking poles or a ridge line to make a small shelter for the bivvy
@@welshfireoutdoors That's the way to go. Cheers.
Hi Dave, I think people need to realise UA-cam is not your main source of income, and with or without freebies you are doing it for the passion of helping others and the enjoyment you get from the outdoors, just like when you work with your scout troop, it’s all unpaid. What also makes a difference is you cover the good and the bad of what you get sent, there is no Sponsored by advert halfway through your video, and there is no pushing of Patreon or heavy pushing of affiliate links. Keep up what you are doing it is spot on, you can never please everyone but you by far please the majority👍. I am not Dave’s Wife nor do I work for Nortent😂
hahahaha. No way the wife would comment of hear, she thinks it's all nuts!
The issue is that for the weight, you can take a tent. Reasons I can think to have a bivy: 1. climbing and camping on ledges. 2. Soldiering. 3.Maybe as a tent backup, in a situation where a tent failure might be really dangerous, it is clear going to be fine in almost any wind.
Im making notes here for my next video and bivi outing, thanks!
You don't bivvy because you are trying to save weight, you bivvy because you want to bivvy.
As a Bivvy Camper i like this. The fact it doesn't lay on my feet is a winner. Nice piece of kit.😊
Thanks Dave for another gear review and taking the time to give us your first thoughts on the new Nortent bivi. I love gear and gear reviews and your style of presentation and humour. If others don’t like this type of content they can choose not to watch it! I love Nortent gear and thanks for giving us your take on their stuff. Best regards and I look forward to more of your reviews in the future. J
Thanks for the encouragement Jason, it's really appreciated.
Looks pretty nice, though not as light as you'd expect for a bivy vs a tent.
I have an OR bivy made of AscentShell or whatever OR calls its breathable fabric, and it is amazingly breathable -- so breathable that you can squeeze the air out through the fabric when packing it up, yet it's waterproof.
IMO the most pleasant way to enjoy a bivy is to combine it with a pair of light tarps, like a 1.5x1 meter size. That makes for a good size to make a giant vestibule yet weighs very little.
But the main benefit you get from that approach is flexibility, since you can pick a bivy spot pretty much anywhere, then just rig the tarps around it however you want when it's raining.
That said, I think it would be very cool see if Nortent will be ambitious enough to make a tent using that breathable fabric to make a lightweight version of the the PC Verne. :)
@rakeshmalik5385 Great comment and that lightweight vern single skin is a brilliant suggestion, Sigma S15 style.
Great video David. Head entrance is a preference for me. Bivvys are discreet and I have used mine in places you wouldn't dare pitch a tent for the risk of being spotted and confronted. Excellent in hot environments especially when midges/mosquito are a problem. I've used mine in cites across the globe and saved a fortune on accommodation. I think my bivvy is called 'The Fox Hole'. Not a consideration for most, but I am proud my bivvy was British made. Sadly, most of my gear is old technology as I struggle to come to grips with purchasing stuff 'Designed in Britain made in .....'.Keep up the great work and looking forward to bivvying with you should you decide it's for you. Final point, a bivvy comes into it's own if you're like me, wanting a drink in a village pub and don't drink and drive.
Well, the last part is an interesting take on bivvying!
Thanks for the review and your channel ! For my part I'm using both tent, hammock and bivy. Tent for when you want security / cosy atmosphere / privacy, hammock for comfort (yes I have a Warbonnet), but I like bivy for simplicity, star gazing, and when either you don't have enough place or... you should not camp there (bivy is so easy and fast to roll... and it's not really camping). I am using an Outdoor Research Alpine Ascentshell bivy which weights only 590g size 210 x 71 cm and 31 x 9 cm packed so way lighter then the Nortent's (to me a bivy makes sense if it's lighter than a tent). It has also a side entrance, mesh, and breathable fabric. It only lacks a vent at the foot end (like the MIllet DryEdge), consequently condensation can appears depending on the weather. Regarding entrance under the rain... yes it's the big, big weak point, a tarp or a poncho can help. Regarding backpack and shoes, I let them outside with their own protection. More place inside :)
@@EmmanuelDinh Thanks. Great info!
@@Fellmandave1 Thank you, you. By the way, I forgot to tell, Bivy is the only way to be in, to be with nature. I think being in a tent is a huge paradox when you go outside, walk sometime quite long, to finish in somehow a large plastic bag, with no contact with nature ! In a bivy you can see the surroundings, feel the air (and the cold !), smell. There's nothing comparable to wake-up directly in nature. When I am in my tent, it's frustrating to wake-up without being instantly outside. You know... You're not totally awake, you have to sit, then open the door, bend to look..... Well in a bivy just open your eyes and you're in :)
@EmmanuelDinh It's a good point and excellent explanation of the benefits. Just if you can get over feeling so exposed.
@@Fellmandave1 Exactly... I must say when it's freezing it's all but natural to go inside a bivy... Just looking at it in the cold and imagine yourself inside sounds crazy. BUT once inside with a good sleeping bag or quilt, you can warm-up quickly and then the magic happens : it's cold outside, but you're perfectly fine and warm (don't forget a good beanie / cap !). The stars are there. And later the wake-up : same magic, you're warm inside, and outside it's all white... There is no better wake-up :)
Hi Dave, using a gortex bivi in winter I experienced a lot of condensation my guess is the temperature differential between inside and outside.
I now use a lightweight summer bivi over the top of the gortex one to prevent a single skin sleep system. It reduces condensation I discovered but I also use a synthetic quilt on top of the down quilt underneath in winter.
I use a tarp if it's raining to sit under and keep everything dry.
Atb Taff 👊
Sounds like a great system taff, i am contemplating using a silnylon cover over my sleeping bag inside. Cheers D
With the nature of modern ultralight silnylon one could argue that apart from niche applications that the bivvy has had its day. My regular solo tent is only 100 g heavier. I tried using a tarp for several trips over the course of a year, I sent the bivvy I had back after half a night of use. I didn't think I was claustrophobic until I tried sleeping in one. I found an altogether better option for ultralight trips and getting a 'connection'. All that said, I loved your video and was really pleased to see someone addressing the generally un-asked question - how do you get it and out in the rain.
Thanks for watching, even my one legged wobbly antics. i get your point about the UL tent though.
Looks great 👍🙂
Hi Dave, I reckon my creaking knees and hips can just about manage a tent. The fact you can’t sit up in a bivvy would be a deal breaker for me. Thanks for posting.
With this one you can take the lid off if its dry. But still not entirely convinced myself!
that bivi looks great , finally a bivi with room !
Non bivvyers always compare them to tents 😂 Totally different experience and are brilliant in the right conditions.
I'm really interested to see how you get on Dave. Like you I've never really got on with Bivi tents. I've really struggled with condensation in the past, so I'll be interested to see how the SKJUL fairs in that department. Really thorough video as always mate.
Oh no, a lot of people are saying that. I am going to have to go through with it now! Thanks for your support. 😎
Unless it’s goretex or similar, you will get wet from condensation. I’ve have I think it was terra nova double hooped bivi which I love, works well. Point to note, you need an inflatable mattress to go inside. If it goes outside it has to be completely covered by the bivi, or you have a waterbed! Use an orange survival bag for your rucksack etc. I think you were lied to about the opening. With an end opening with covering flap, means you can open the end in the rain and use a gas stove, and stay dry!😊 You have complete peace of mind camping with a tent, or bothying in winter, as you can put your down bag (which can’t get wet) inside, if your tent/tarp leaks your good, apart from adding a layer of air & warmth. 😊It seems this is breathable so apart from no end opening, good.
Cheers. Good point about the end opening. I thought about the mat underneath, but that would take up the same interior space.
I used to bivy all the time, mainly for the relative cost and weight savings. Today, I do not see the pt, unless you love them. As you say, there are so many light weight options, including tarp camping that the bivy option is now redundant. Mind you, I seem to have gained in claustrophobia; as I watched you I said nope. But in the past, loved it. I do see the appeal, but the practicality isn't there anymore. Bivys remain a cool option but not a necessary one.
At least you've been there and understood. Thanks for commenting.
I looked at things like the snugpac and vaude bivi as I do like the idea of a bivi but they were heavier than my tarptent notch. So couldn't really see any advantage in the use of them.
Night sky views I am going for Andrew. Do fancy a notch though!
+1 for the Notch. Excellent piece of kit, and if you're a trecking pole user it's a no brainer in my view (lighter than these hooped bivvis (mine's under 800g all in) and plenty of space and 2 vestibules!
Looking forward to look at the comments later .I am on the fence too but I will give any thing a second chance great video . look forward to the next video to see how you’ve got on .sorry but I left a message back to that Greg you may have seen my comment but people like him make my blood boil. I don’t understand why people leave comments like that .Great review again.can I ask is there straps underneath for a mat? Or roll mat?
Hi Iain, no strapps underneath. I figured you would always just put it inside, good point htough. Thanks for you support.
I'm sure those things have their place. However, it would be a horrible thing to get in there in the pouring rain. Now... at that point shelter is shelter... but wow. My thinking is that these products shine in a kinder sort of element. Thanks for the share, I still want one... go figure?
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Great review Dave I might have to order one I really like the look of it. I’ve got a Rab Ridge Raider and love it but it’s a bit awkward to crawl inside it from the front. Luckily I’m only small 😂I only really use mine in the summer so I can sit outside and enjoy the views. Take no notice of the negative comments mate it’s people like you that make the videos why I buy all my camping gear ATB Paul 👍
Cheers paul, I had a great night in it on saturday. I have limited experience of Bivys but this one seems to be everything you might need. Video out 15:30 today! Cheers and thanks for commenting.
@ Great thanks Dave looking forward to watching it
Fitting in a tight spot or stealth camping are the only plus points, you need a tarp then your the same weight as tent. If you're bringing tarp then use a normal bivvy bag to save the weight of poles. Nice to see the test in the garden pre testing too🤣
I think with this one, mesh protected star gazing is going to be the winner.
Looks great quality. Not for me but if I wanted a bivvy this would be it.
Cheers Hedley.
Dave firstly I've followed you and your fantastic channel for a year or so now and i find the content extremely enjoyable and informative, But i just don't get the idea of the bivvy, let's be honest it's more of a fair weather thing, the idea of sleeping out under the stars is the Only positive i can see, the fact to get the full benefit out the bivvy its best used with a tarp is defeating the object, by the time you have your bivvy poles,pegs, guide ropes Tarp and more rope its going to weigh the same if not more than a good 1man tent, not to mention the time putting it all together, Tent All Day and Night for me 👍 id just like to finish by saying Top Shout for mentioning Prostrate Test to one of your follower's, Hopefully by bringing the subject up it might ring a bell to more people, and save more lives 👍
I get you totally on the tarp and bivi. I guess I pitched in the rain and tried it to 'train hard, fight easy'. Interesting about the prostate, as urinary frequency has propped up several times in the comments. I might do a piece on that, bring on the rubber gloves! Dont worry, no graphic video of that.... thanks for the support.
@@Fellmandave1😂😂😂 oh Davey that reply tickled me am still chuckling writing this 😅 but yeah I think it would be really beneficial if you did a section about Awareness of getting checked out and Especially if your going toilet frequently, oh by the way I forgot to wish you and your Family a very Happy and Healthy New Year, All the Best buddy 👍
@@barbelking3517 And to you and yours my friend.
Tried a hooped bivvy once, hated it. In good weather its not too bad bht how often do we get that 😂 i preffered the aplkit hunka xl. Less claustrophobic but obviously more exposed.
It's a niche activity Mike. I am laughing thinking of someone your height in it. Possible though!
This reminds me of the time that I tried to make an omelette without breaking any eggs.
I failed.
Sounds like boiled eggs for you
As someone that's fairly claustrophobic, theres no chance I could use an bivvy as adventurous as it sounds.
The TN Laser compact is about as small as I can manage and even then it was a push in winds when it's slapping you in the face haha.
Marmite definitly
Cheers Dave. How much did you pay? On their website it retails at only £163.37 which is a bargain.
Nortent sent it to me FOC. I think its a good price too, though carriage is high.
I’ve gone through the rabbit hole of Bivy tents many many times thinking it’s a good way to simplify. But then I get ready to go for it and chicken out. Just don’t think it carries the comfort I’m looking for when out. I think I’d prefer to just be under a tarp.
Well , I have said I am going to do it now, so no chickening out! Its the tarps that give me the fear- all of my stuff blowing away, nightmare!
I've always wanted to like bivi camping but it never works out. It's cramped, condensation is always a problem and in bad weather it's very impractical unless you're a contortionist or you pair it with a tarp. At that point you might just add well invest in a decent tent. That being said i enjoyed your review but not for me 👍
I understand. I am on the same fence.
No, not for me, Dave. Thanks for the show. How long after getting into the bivvy and bag did you want a wee?😊
Dis'nt, but now you've placed that thought. ps, get your prostate checked Marty!
All good😊@@Fellmandave1
Hi Dave
Interesting bivy, lots of nice features for sure, but two hoops and a guy line, too much like a small tent, still like it as a bivy but not for me,
I think I will do a video on pros and cons of the different bivy’s, I have and use,
As always a great review with good constructive moments on features etc
Cheers from the bivy
Hi Mate, that will make a great video of yours and I look forward to seeing it. Enjoy your night. ATB
Impossible to download into a bottle - so not for me, plus my 50kg hound always hikes / camps with me. Where would he sleep? Also my pack?
Definitely not big doggy space Chris!
@ thank you - I’m also large at 6’5” / 19stone. I have yet to find any bivi that can work for me and the pooch and instead have settled on using a DCF tarp and polycro groundsheet. For me, I must have my dog out of the weather and to be able to heat water, feed the hound and have enough space to use a pee-bottle and change into dry clothes. I really struggle to understand bivi camping ……… but there must be merits as I see folk using them.
I like the idea of the bivvys, for emergencies, packing away small, I would prefer them a bit wider and higher, and easier to get in, have some room to wriggle, and get out..
I just can't bring myself to ever take anything out with me smaller than a 2 man.
Never thoight of it as an emergency shelter on hikes etc. Good idea! Whats your best two man?
Well, "emergency" might be wrong to say , but they're good for long-distance hikes, if you're out for a few days or a week or whatever, you don't want to carry something big, and just need something to simply to sleep in and pack away quickly and continue hiking on..
And I've only ever owned Vango and OEX tents, that is all I've been able to afford. I hope to be able to buy the Ly 1 someday, that looks like the tent for me.
Did you say 150 grams over and then remove it from the bag?
Yes. So that included all bags and velcro strap.
14:53 Quite a few cases of people using stoves inside bivis, it never ends well, even experienced outdoors people who should know better have perished through carbon monoxide poisoning.
Important tip here.
Well i think this is about as good as it gets in the bivvy world ?
If you run out of tents give it a go ?
If you roof the thing with a 3×3 tarpaulin you might convince yourself it's a Palace?
Which is kind of defeating the purpose?
Some will like it others won't?
@@robduncan599 Definitely Marmite Rob.
"compact" ? Its a bigger packed size than many tents 😂
For me, bivvy bags only make sense if they are smaller and lighter than a tent, although with some of the ultralight tents these days I guess their use case begins to decline.
I've had a goretex bivvy bag for over 30 years but very rarely used it, would only consider it now on a guaranteed dry night or with some head area cover such as bus shelter, etc.
It's a good point, but this will come into its own when you can star gaze.
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Thanks Mandy. Rare female comment!
No thanks I’m not into sleeping in coffins just yet 😂I’ll stick to a tent.
That's not a bivvy bag it's a single skinned coffin tent. Weighs more than a lanshan, 2 poles and a load of pegs.........
cheers Steve, not for you then!
@Fellmandave1 no mate. Nortent kit does look good 👌 some of their sleeping bags look very innovative but for me a bivvy bag is just that, a bag. Lightweight, ridiculously packable. I use the sierra designs back country bivvy and the hunka xl. For me if I'm carrying something that heavy I'd go for a lightweight tent
fair
Jesus another sponsored video with free gear, Paul Messner was right and glad he stopped that nonsense and reviews. I cannot be bother watching any of that because whats the point, of course you gonna like it. Most Uk youtubers went downhill past year, only few are true and real good ones.
@gregoryoutdoors If you watch my video Gregory, it is descriptive, not full of praise. Plus I only accept gear that I think I will use and enjoy. Thanks for your perspective.
why bother leaving comments like this if you don’t like it turn it off ??Greg why the hate go get a life you ✊✊ people like sit behind the keyboard.if I doesn’t interest me I don’t watch it but I don’t know this bloke from Adam.. the man done a video what have you done?
@@iainbickerstaff7099 Because its truth and hes been using (and many many other youtubers) and posting Nortents and other free or sponsored gear like for a long time now and im sick of that and many people too. It need to end. They should only review for what they actually pay for. Not spamming outdoor community with all that nonsense and bought thought by those companies if you know what I mean. He as a person he is a lovely guy and very good teacher also etc I know that too, so wish him all the best. Im just kinda feed up.
@gregoryoutdoors Calm down Gregory, nobody's forcing you to watch.
If it's triggering you watching sponsored videos, just don't click on them marra.
That’s really unfair. If you watched the video, you’d see that Dave hasn’t just pitched the bivi and said it’s great. He’s gone into detail about the specs, setup process, water resistance, and even tested getting in to see how it works in practice. Plus, Dave isn’t an avid bivi camper, so it’ll be interesting to follow his future videos to see if it wins him over.
I also don’t understand the frustration with UA-camrs receiving free gear. It’s an opportunity for them to test and share their honest thoughts on products while creating new content for their audience. As long as the reviews are genuine, it’s a win-win. Sure, some creators may not fully test the gear they review, but if you’ve watched Dave’s content, you’ll know he puts effort into thorough and honest assessments.
I'll spend eternity in a coffin ⚰️, I don't want to spend my lifetime in one. Never been a fan of a bivvy as a form of shelter.
Cremated and scattered on the hills personally, so dodging that eternal bullit!