Is the sound quality good in the 10b? Is there a difference between 20b in this matter? Is there any other compatible solution for an F70 other then these 2?
Looks good! But i hope the audio quality is also good?! Normally its is only high frequency andso you dont hear normal voice good enough and you have to set the volume so high that it is painfull for your ears. :-(
Considering the 10B is based off of Sena SMH5 specs, we'd expect their audio performance to be on a similar level. Though we haven't had a chance to test the 10B or 20B just yet, considering past tests with Sena speakers we'd expect the speakers to have a good level of volume output though the Sena speakers we've tested are normally skewed towards higher frequencies and sometimes have trouble producing a clear bass. Nonetheles, the 10B will be more of an entry system, so we'd expect improved audio quality in the HJC 20B, which is based on the Sena 20S. Though not the 10B, you can check out our test of a set of Sena speakers here: ua-cam.com/video/jZox7xdabuY/v-deo.html Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the Smart HJC systems?
Can you cut off the included speakers & splice in better ones (like JBL)? Wanna put a 10b on my RPHA 90S but have been reading the speakers are junk. I really just want it for music.
The HJC smart 20B is not certified as waterproof, but it is water resistant. This means it should stand up to some tougher conditions, though the safest option would be a fully waterproof system like a Cardo. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the HJC system?
@@Championhelmets Thanks for the info. I am this close to buy a HJC helmet but I'm having doubts about this device... I do think the cardo Pactalk Slim has better specifications though... and I have the impression that the new HJC helmets prepared for the 20B aren't compatible with the Packtalk Slim, right?
While the Cardo Packtalk Slim does come with more advanced all around specs, the only issue is that the HJC Smart prepared helmets make it very difficult to fit the Packtalk Slim's battery pack. The reason for this is that the space at the back of the helmet where the battery usually sits is now taken up by the slot for the Smart HJC's battery. Though it may be possible to find a work around for this, it may be a challenge. Though another alternative would be the Cardo Packtalk Bold, which does not have the battery issue. If you find you have any further questions, we're always happy to help
I bought the hjc rpha 11 venom 2 helmet, and I noticed that it does not have that support but supposedly if it is compatible with rpha 11, what do I do?
The main reason would be the direct integration. This would ensure that the profile of the helmet is better preserved (which also has a positive impact on safety) and that the speakers will fit as comfortably as possible into the pockets on either side. If you're looking for FM radio, this is also a feature included in the 20B communication system, though it will still be coming above the SMH 5 in price. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the Smart HJC system?
@@Championhelmets Thank you for your answer. HJC smart is obviously going to be bought exclusively by the owners of HJC helmets, so instead of making it a good-priced bonus feature if you choose HJC, they make it overpriced. I would consider 10B if it had FM Radio (which is possible for a version of SMH5, so I don't see why it isn't for 10B), but if I compare it too f.e. Cardo Freecom 2+ which at the similar price is waterproof, has an FM Radio, better battery and other options, the winner is clear to me. Btw. I am looking for a dual intercom for two HJC F70 helmets for pillion riding.
@@yoco93cro The FM radio is definitely a sticking point on the 10B, especially considering the range of other communicators offering other high end features such as the Cardo. The Freecom 2+ is offered in a dual intercom package, and since it is bringing those strong features, that would probably be the best option given what you're hoping to use it for. Alternatively, if you're looking to just communicate with your pillion, then the Freecom 1+ Duo also offers a similar set of features. Thanks for the reply! If you have any further questions, we're always happy to help
@@yoco93cro Our pleasure! Unfortunately, since we don't currently stock Midland intercom systems, we are unable to get our hands on them for review, though they do seem to offer a solid set of starter specs.
Unfortunately, the HJC 10B does not seem to support Google Assistant or Siri voice commands, since this is a feature often found in more advanced communicators like the Sena 50R or 50S. However, the 20B does allow you to give voice commands to the system, so you may be able to access Google assistant through this. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the 10 / 20B?
@@Championhelmets But according to HJC and SENA it's based on the SNH5 which does start google assistant when you press the red read button 1 time. Have you actually checked it or is it a guess?
@@lowspeed2000 The function was a bit too well hidden by Sena in this case, but we've gone back and tested it out again. To use your Google Assistant, you need to hold the center button for 3 seconds until you hear a tone, after which you can give your command. Before you do this though, you also need to make sure that the relevant permissions for Google Assistant in your phone are also enabled.
The HJC Smart compatibility feature is currently restricted to HJC's new models. So, since the RPHA 70 Carbon is the only new entry into the RPHA touring line, the carbon version received the Smart compatibility. This also allows for greater flexibility for riders since the RPHA 70 allows riders to install their Cardo Packtalk Slims much more easily than the Smart HJC prepared helmets. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the HJC system?
The HJC RPHA 11 has been built to be compatible with the Cardo Packtalk Slim system. You can learn more about the Cardo here: ua-cam.com/video/njDowy7b_mU/v-deo.html Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the HJC helmet?
@@cas8595 No problem! HJC do an excellent job in offering excellent prices alongside great quality. Thanks for the reply! If you find you have any further questions, we're always happy to help
I think it's important to mention, this set does not work with Siri. Doesn't listen to "Hi Siri ..." commands. I'm quite disappointed. Apart from that it's good for phone calls and music if button-operated.
Yes, you should be able to install the Freecom system in HJC's 2020 releases. The speaker pockets of the helmets are large, the clamp will be able to sit comfortably, and the Freecom's construction means you don't have to worry about the battery slot at the back of the helmet. Thanks for the question! What do you think of the new Smart HJC system?
To fit the Cardo Packtalk Slim in the normal HJC RPHA 70, you can check out our guide here: ua-cam.com/video/njDowy7b_mU/v-deo.html. If you're looking to fit the Packtalk Slim in the RPHA 70 Carbon, then you may run into issues because of the battery placement. In that case, it may be better to go for the Cardo Packtalk Bold instead. Thanks for the question!
Unfortunately, due to the reserved battery slot in the back of the RPHA 70 Carbon, it will be much more difficult to fit the Packtalk Slim. So, it may be a better option to either look at the standard RPHA 70 or to mount the Cardo Packtalk Bold, which does not have an external battery pack. Thanks for the question!
I have an HJC 10B (a Sena made product) that failed after a yeah of use. Sena & HJC both refuses to honor their warranty on the produce. Find another manufacturer to buy from because Sena obviously refuses to stand by their products.
This is terrible... the hjc helmet, 190, CANNOT use the 10b, even though all paperwork says it can. There are no channels for the mic... and the i90 has a modular lifting front piece, which would clearly messup the wiring of the mic. Of course no ones video shows it being installed into a i90
OK, found the video that actualy does a good job of showing this install for the i90 or any hjc modular face helmet... ua-cam.com/video/P4Yxi2HV-C0/v-deo.html So much better of a video, slower, shows all the angles, no fast forward crap and shows there is a HUGE difference between the i90 and all other non-modular helmets.
This system is TERRIBLE on the i10 robust fyi…it will hurt your ears so badly and make your helmet so uncomfortable you won’t even be able to stand it. Would return but to much hassle but a pos
Not impressed, imagine going over fine details inside a black helmet from 5 feet away. And if that wasn't enough, his hands were in the way 90% of the time and they didn't take ANY opportunities to pause and point at anything. Just rolled right along like he's installed this thing 1000 times. The only thing this video did for me was to show me that my liner comes out in 3 pieces.
never again!!!! App - nothing, pairing - disaster, sound - disaster, intercom - no one hears anything, update - failed even after 3 hours. I don't understand how this can be a recommended brand. If it was an off-brand piece of shit, I wouldn't say a word, but this?????? Absolute nonsense all this. And I'm not saying that some idiot invented this USB power supply
How does the intercom initiate after pairing and connecting with others in a group, do I have to go through the menu and select intercom or how does that work?
Once paired with another system, you can enter intercom mode by tapping the center button once. If you have more than one intercom friend paired, then you can switch between them by double tapping for the second friend, triple tapping for the third, and so on. To turn off the intercom, you then tap the center button once more. You can also learn more in the Smart HJC 10B manual. Thanks for the question! How have you found the HJC system so far?
@@Championhelmets Thank you! I'm just trying to figure if I want to use the integrated Bluetooth, Smart HJC 20B system designed for my new HJC i90 helmet or a different Bluetooth system for better features.. I'm strongly leaning towards the HJC 20B though. Thank again, I really appreciate your help
Excellent video...I could not have installed the unit without your help. Thank you!
Is the sound quality good in the 10b? Is there a difference between 20b in this matter?
Is there any other compatible solution for an F70 other then these 2?
Looks good! But i hope the audio quality is also good?! Normally its is only high frequency andso you dont hear normal voice good enough and you have to set the volume so high that it is painfull for your ears. :-(
Considering the 10B is based off of Sena SMH5 specs, we'd expect their audio performance to be on a similar level. Though we haven't had a chance to test the 10B or 20B just yet, considering past tests with Sena speakers we'd expect the speakers to have a good level of volume output though the Sena speakers we've tested are normally skewed towards higher frequencies and sometimes have trouble producing a clear bass. Nonetheles, the 10B will be more of an entry system, so we'd expect improved audio quality in the HJC 20B, which is based on the Sena 20S.
Though not the 10B, you can check out our test of a set of Sena speakers here: ua-cam.com/video/jZox7xdabuY/v-deo.html
Thanks for the question!
What are your thoughts on the Smart HJC systems?
Can you cut off the included speakers & splice in better ones (like JBL)? Wanna put a 10b on my RPHA 90S but have been reading the speakers are junk. I really just want it for music.
Are the 20B waterproof?
I may need to ride in the rain for a long time sometimes, will this be good for my case?
The HJC smart 20B is not certified as waterproof, but it is water resistant. This means it should stand up to some tougher conditions, though the safest option would be a fully waterproof system like a Cardo.
Thanks for the question!
What are your thoughts on the HJC system?
@@Championhelmets Thanks for the info. I am this close to buy a HJC helmet but I'm having doubts about this device... I do think the cardo Pactalk Slim has better specifications though... and I have the impression that the new HJC helmets prepared for the 20B aren't compatible with the Packtalk Slim, right?
While the Cardo Packtalk Slim does come with more advanced all around specs, the only issue is that the HJC Smart prepared helmets make it very difficult to fit the Packtalk Slim's battery pack. The reason for this is that the space at the back of the helmet where the battery usually sits is now taken up by the slot for the Smart HJC's battery. Though it may be possible to find a work around for this, it may be a challenge. Though another alternative would be the Cardo Packtalk Bold, which does not have the battery issue.
If you find you have any further questions, we're always happy to help
@@Championhelmets Thanks! I will sleep on this and make a decision soon.
How do you pair the headsets to talk to eachother?
Thank You Very Much for your explanation of the 10B HJC Helmet BT operation.
Glad it was helpful!
Intresting! Does the 10B come with FM radio?
Unfortunately, the 10B does not come with FM radio. That feature is only included in the Smart HJC 20B. Thanks for the question!
I bought the hjc rpha 11 venom 2 helmet, and I noticed that it does not have that support but supposedly if it is compatible with rpha 11, what do I do?
Okay, why shoud I pick this instead of SMH5 FM, which is cheaper and also has FM radio? Are the estetics worth that?
The main reason would be the direct integration. This would ensure that the profile of the helmet is better preserved (which also has a positive impact on safety) and that the speakers will fit as comfortably as possible into the pockets on either side. If you're looking for FM radio, this is also a feature included in the 20B communication system, though it will still be coming above the SMH 5 in price.
Thanks for the question!
What are your thoughts on the Smart HJC system?
@@Championhelmets Thank you for your answer. HJC smart is obviously going to be bought exclusively by the owners of HJC helmets, so instead of making it a good-priced bonus feature if you choose HJC, they make it overpriced. I would consider 10B if it had FM Radio (which is possible for a version of SMH5, so I don't see why it isn't for 10B), but if I compare it too f.e. Cardo Freecom 2+ which at the similar price is waterproof, has an FM Radio, better battery and other options, the winner is clear to me. Btw. I am looking for a dual intercom for two HJC F70 helmets for pillion riding.
@@yoco93cro The FM radio is definitely a sticking point on the 10B, especially considering the range of other communicators offering other high end features such as the Cardo. The Freecom 2+ is offered in a dual intercom package, and since it is bringing those strong features, that would probably be the best option given what you're hoping to use it for. Alternatively, if you're looking to just communicate with your pillion, then the Freecom 1+ Duo also offers a similar set of features.
Thanks for the reply!
If you have any further questions, we're always happy to help
@@Championhelmets Thank you very much for your help. Just one question: are you planning to review midland intercoms any time soon (f.e. BTX1)?
@@yoco93cro Our pleasure! Unfortunately, since we don't currently stock Midland intercom systems, we are unable to get our hands on them for review, though they do seem to offer a solid set of starter specs.
Does it protrude out or sit flush in the hole?
Say, does it start Google assistant when you press the middle button (or any button...) Thanks.
Unfortunately, the HJC 10B does not seem to support Google Assistant or Siri voice commands, since this is a feature often found in more advanced communicators like the Sena 50R or 50S. However, the 20B does allow you to give voice commands to the system, so you may be able to access Google assistant through this. Thanks for the question!
What are your thoughts on the 10 / 20B?
@@Championhelmets But according to HJC and SENA it's based on the SNH5 which does start google assistant when you press the red read button 1 time. Have you actually checked it or is it a guess?
@@lowspeed2000 The function was a bit too well hidden by Sena in this case, but we've gone back and tested it out again. To use your Google Assistant, you need to hold the center button for 3 seconds until you hear a tone, after which you can give your command. Before you do this though, you also need to make sure that the relevant permissions for Google Assistant in your phone are also enabled.
@@Championhelmets Nice. Thank you for verifying!
@@lowspeed2000 No problem! If you have any further questions, we're always happy to help!
How is the audio quality in the 10b???
I've been running it for about 6 months. It's ok. It's not a set of Beats, but for what it is it functions great. Decent battery life.
do not understand why they didnt make the standard rpha70 fit these
The HJC Smart compatibility feature is currently restricted to HJC's new models. So, since the RPHA 70 Carbon is the only new entry into the RPHA touring line, the carbon version received the Smart compatibility. This also allows for greater flexibility for riders since the RPHA 70 allows riders to install their Cardo Packtalk Slims much more easily than the Smart HJC prepared helmets.
Thanks for the question!
What are your thoughts on the HJC system?
@@Championhelmets I like it. And my partner has shoei slr sena. Hence wanted a nice sena fitting system
@@jeremykronk7069 Thanks for the reply, we appreciate it! If you find you have any further questions, we're happy to help
hi great vid, which system does fit on the normal RPHA 11 helmet
The HJC RPHA 11 has been built to be compatible with the Cardo Packtalk Slim system.
You can learn more about the Cardo here: ua-cam.com/video/njDowy7b_mU/v-deo.html
Thanks for the question!
What are your thoughts on the HJC helmet?
@@Championhelmets thanks for your response, i have for many years HJC helmets, they are fit nice on my head, price quality is fine to me.
@@cas8595 No problem! HJC do an excellent job in offering excellent prices alongside great quality.
Thanks for the reply!
If you find you have any further questions, we're always happy to help
I think it's important to mention, this set does not work with Siri. Doesn't listen to "Hi Siri ..." commands. I'm quite disappointed. Apart from that it's good for phone calls and music if button-operated.
Can I install cardo freecom units in this new hjc helmets?
Yes, you should be able to install the Freecom system in HJC's 2020 releases. The speaker pockets of the helmets are large, the clamp will be able to sit comfortably, and the Freecom's construction means you don't have to worry about the battery slot at the back of the helmet. Thanks for the question!
What do you think of the new Smart HJC system?
How do I pair this unit with my Navigator and tft on BMW? Thanks
How can I fit the packtalk slim in the rpha70?
To fit the Cardo Packtalk Slim in the normal HJC RPHA 70, you can check out our guide here: ua-cam.com/video/njDowy7b_mU/v-deo.html.
If you're looking to fit the Packtalk Slim in the RPHA 70 Carbon, then you may run into issues because of the battery placement. In that case, it may be better to go for the Cardo Packtalk Bold instead. Thanks for the question!
Is it water resistant?
Can the hjcs communicate to people using a sena? Ik sena made these but just curious
You should be able to communicate with each other. You can always double check with sena for specific systems
Can i fit the Packtalk Slim in the RPHA 70 Carbon still,
Unfortunately, due to the reserved battery slot in the back of the RPHA 70 Carbon, it will be much more difficult to fit the Packtalk Slim. So, it may be a better option to either look at the standard RPHA 70 or to mount the Cardo Packtalk Bold, which does not have an external battery pack. Thanks for the question!
Does it work with BMW TFT?
Can you use it while charging?
No, the charging lead would go into your head/neck.
@@AndyWWW What about if you use a lead in 90 degrees?
Does it pair with iPhones? For some reason mine won’t connect.
I ones could make a connection with my iPhone SE. Then I was lost on translation.
How do you skip songs?
This thing was a MASSIVE pain in the ass to install in the i10 helmet
Great overview!
I have an HJC 10B (a Sena made product) that failed after a yeah of use. Sena & HJC both refuses to honor their warranty on the produce. Find another manufacturer to buy from because Sena obviously refuses to stand by their products.
Grrr just brought 10b and it won’t play music off my android phone.
There is no need to remove the top head!
This is terrible... the hjc helmet, 190, CANNOT use the 10b, even though all paperwork says it can. There are no channels for the mic... and the i90 has a modular lifting front piece, which would clearly messup the wiring of the mic. Of course no ones video shows it being installed into a i90
OK, found the video that actualy does a good job of showing this install for the i90 or any hjc modular face helmet...
ua-cam.com/video/P4Yxi2HV-C0/v-deo.html
So much better of a video, slower, shows all the angles, no fast forward crap and shows there is a HUGE difference between the i90 and all other non-modular helmets.
Not compatible with TomTom Rider navigation, buyer be ware.
You skip too many steps man!!! And the cable is horrible to put inside the helmet!!! I don't recommend SENA!!!!! HORRIBLE!!!!
This system is TERRIBLE on the i10 robust fyi…it will hurt your ears so badly and make your helmet so uncomfortable you won’t even be able to stand it. Would return but to much hassle but a pos
Not impressed, imagine going over fine details inside a black helmet from 5 feet away. And if that wasn't enough, his hands were in the way 90% of the time and they didn't take ANY opportunities to pause and point at anything. Just rolled right along like he's installed this thing 1000 times. The only thing this video did for me was to show me that my liner comes out in 3 pieces.
It was not our goal to impress but to have an explanation. Good to see that you at least learned about the 3 piece liner. Good day to you too
never again!!!! App - nothing, pairing - disaster, sound - disaster, intercom - no one hears anything, update - failed even after 3 hours. I don't understand how this can be a recommended brand. If it was an off-brand piece of shit, I wouldn't say a word, but this?????? Absolute nonsense all this. And I'm not saying that some idiot invented this USB power supply
How does the intercom initiate after pairing and connecting with others in a group, do I have to go through the menu and select intercom or how does that work?
Once paired with another system, you can enter intercom mode by tapping the center button once. If you have more than one intercom friend paired, then you can switch between them by double tapping for the second friend, triple tapping for the third, and so on. To turn off the intercom, you then tap the center button once more. You can also learn more in the Smart HJC 10B manual.
Thanks for the question!
How have you found the HJC system so far?
@@Championhelmets Thank you! I'm just trying to figure if I want to use the integrated Bluetooth, Smart HJC 20B system designed for my new HJC i90 helmet or a different Bluetooth system for better features.. I'm strongly leaning towards the HJC 20B though. Thank again, I really appreciate your help
Our pleasure! If you find you have any further questions, we're always happy to help