Wow I never knew that Jozi looked this beautiful back then, it's almost unbelievable. It really breaks my heart to it at this state now. always hear my grandmom say that this place used to be one of the best places in the world.
Yes i did live there between. 1979 to 1987 a walk back though nightmare dream. Wish that could show dunkeld Greenside. Rosebank. In the 1960. Worthwhile to see. Thanks for posting
That brought back some memories! I used to live in the Trinity Hall Flats, in Highlands St., that you showed in the video. Very different place now, sadly...
What is glory for you is pain for others - how can such glory be blissful when its so painful for others? Only a cruel, self absorbed individual can take joy here.
Me and my father lived in Highpoint flats in Hillbrow in the early 80s then moved to Ponte after that.Those were considered the luxury apartments in those days and if you lived there you were doing well.Now it's sadly all a mess.
@@walterjrwhite7352 Not. They had their homelands (where the different tribes settled when they arrived here from Central Africa) which their traditional leaders DEMANDED and got, when THEY insisted on SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT. Some of them even declared their homelands independent republics. And then there was white South Africa (where the Europeans settled when they arrived here), the Powerhouse of Africa, of which NOTHING is left today. Get educated. It's the right thing to do.
@@wouterswanepoel5753 yes. The oppression and discrimination of the majority by the minority is the good thing to do. Yes yes yes. As for your "Education" I'm good thank you. I don't need something that will teach me to be an ignorant lapdog. Or Kafere as white people love saying. You can keep ur education I'm good
@@walterjrwhite7352 No oppression whatsoever ... in WHITE South Africa. NO black tribe EVER had any claim to WHITE South Africa, as much as the Zulus don't have a claim to Venda land, the Sothos to Xhosa land, etcetera. Get educated, it's the right thing to do. Russian propaganda certainly bent your mind well.
@@wouterswanepoel5753 let me guess... Not allowing people to move freely and using dumb passes to identify your right to exist was good? black leaders can make their claim as much as they like. We just don't want pale skinned people in our natural habitats telling us how to eat, drink sleep or where to live. The results of oppression are showing now after 27 years since apartheid. The fact of the matter is black didn't colonize other Blacks.
Good ol Bez Park. I lived in Cyrildene around the corner. Was 7 years old and in my first year of school when this was filmed. Amazing how clean and orderly everything looked even back then. Cut grass and no litter
Interesting video, i then lived in south africa for another 6 years, id walk around lots on sundays, from the city centre up to the east Rand shopping centre
To be fair, that area was already going downhill long before 1994. People were moving out of Berea and Hillbrow even in the 80s/early 90s because of crime. I would agree the ANC has done nothing to improve these old suburbs and things have only gone from bad to worse, but it's not like things were perfect in 1994 either.
Amazing video! Sights include Windybrow (1:11), Nugget Hill (1:30) facing Cathedral of Christ the King and Doornfontein, Pullinger Kop (1:41), up Primrose Terrace in Berea (2:19) with Ridge Plaza on the right, Ponte tower seen from Berea Park (3:00). What's the park around the 10:00 mark...the Wilds? I love the inner city architecture. Sad that the area has decayed so much. Those parks should be a treasure for everyone in Joburg but instead have been left to rot.
1989 was the beginning of the end....though we didn't quite know it yet. The chaos that has since developed was just beginning to be felt in Joburg even though it was nothing compared to today.
Not good. Many of the buildings are actually in pretty good shape but some are either highjacked or left to rot and the streets are mostly dirty and unkempt. I was in Berea Park last year and there were a lot of dodgy characters mulling about. Certainly not a place I'd find peaceful and relaxing. The Windybrow center is still in use. I'm pretty adventurous but I'd only walk around Berea during the day and in a group.
To be fair, most of the high rise buildings were an architectural cancer even back then, the only sensible thing left to do now is to level the whole Hillbrow area and rebuild it completely.
@@christobosman5710 Nope. The native african are happy living in minimal and poor conditions. They don't care to improve, so long as other people maintain it for them. They will waller in the squaller.
@@walterjrwhite7352 yes the dark ones will be waving mandela's jog strap in your faces , enjoy the dirty stink , idiot , we whites will enjoying the beuatifull old clean one .
What is glory for you is pain for others - how can such glory be blissful when its so painful for others? Only a cruel, self absorbed individual can take joy here.
No, Rule of Law means that people are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. You can't lump people together in your mind & accuse them without evidence. The sovereignty of the individual means each one can feel & think freely for themselves, thank you.
The joy is that the country was run properly and is was clean and safe. Now your ANC buddies have wrecked the entire country. I miss those days when we were safe. I don't miss the old government though.
@@tfmkhonza5084 What an utterly stupid statement. The EFF will destroy the country even faster and more thoroughly than the ANC. They CANNOT and won't be able to run a country. Don't reply. Just remember what I have stated here and see that they will destroy it so fast that you will be starving and probably won't survive the coming war.
Wow I never knew that Jozi looked this beautiful back then, it's almost unbelievable. It really breaks my heart to it at this state now. always hear my grandmom say that this place used to be one of the best places in the world.
Stunning city views back then, if you could ignore the minor detail of ::checks notes:: oh my god
Weil da waren weiße heute schwarze die Herren und diese Leute können gar nichts
Brought back a flood of special memories. I don’t live in SA anymore but my heart is always tugged when I see such footage 😢
Yes i did live there between. 1979 to 1987 a walk back though nightmare dream. Wish that could show dunkeld Greenside. Rosebank. In the 1960. Worthwhile to see. Thanks for posting
That brought back some memories! I used to live in the Trinity Hall Flats, in Highlands St., that you showed in the video. Very different place now, sadly...
What is glory for you is pain for others - how can such glory be blissful when its so painful for others? Only a cruel, self absorbed individual can take joy here.
@@ajitjain8223 LOL
@@ajitjain8223 Can't we just live and enjoy tge scenary? Must it always be woe is me?
Well wasn't good for us black people we was pressured in our home lands by apartheid so, what you mean brought back some memories, it's our own land
@@evanswaby6785 Sorry I DON"T care about Apartheid.
I moved to Jozi in 1992, and it was an awesome place for 10 years. Going back in late 2009, it was sad to see the decay and rot.
Our family flats were Woodlands, the first flats at the bottom of Stewart Drive, so the whole garden went back up the koppie. Thanks for the memories.
Me and my father lived in Highpoint flats in Hillbrow in the early 80s then moved to Ponte after that.Those were considered the luxury apartments in those days and if you lived there you were doing well.Now it's sadly all a mess.
They kept it so clean
SO CLEAN
When South Africa was still an advanced civilisation and the Powerhouse of Africa (and the entire Southern Hemisphere).
And a black man's nightmare
@@walterjrwhite7352 Not. They had their homelands (where the different tribes settled when they arrived here from Central Africa) which their traditional leaders DEMANDED and got, when THEY insisted on SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT. Some of them even declared their homelands independent republics. And then there was white South Africa (where the Europeans settled when they arrived here), the Powerhouse of Africa, of which NOTHING is left today. Get educated. It's the right thing to do.
@@wouterswanepoel5753 yes. The oppression and discrimination of the majority by the minority is the good thing to do. Yes yes yes. As for your "Education" I'm good thank you. I don't need something that will teach me to be an ignorant lapdog. Or Kafere as white people love saying. You can keep ur education I'm good
@@walterjrwhite7352 No oppression whatsoever ... in WHITE South Africa. NO black tribe EVER had any claim to WHITE South Africa, as much as the Zulus don't have a claim to Venda land, the Sothos to Xhosa land, etcetera. Get educated, it's the right thing to do. Russian propaganda certainly bent your mind well.
@@wouterswanepoel5753 let me guess... Not allowing people to move freely and using dumb passes to identify your right to exist was good?
black leaders can make their claim as much as they like.
We just don't want pale skinned people in our natural habitats telling us how to eat, drink sleep or where to live.
The results of oppression are showing now after 27 years since apartheid.
The fact of the matter is black didn't colonize other Blacks.
Cannot believe how they destroyed it since then!!!!!!!
Wow what a difference from then to present. I used to go around these places as I used to live at Eselen street at Guildhall.
O I miss joburg bring back best memories 🤗😘👍💕💕💕💕
Thank you graham this is great content to see what where i Stay used to look like
I was two weeks old when this was recorded.
Good ol Bez Park. I lived in Cyrildene around the corner. Was 7 years old and in my first year of school when this was filmed. Amazing how clean and orderly everything looked even back then. Cut grass and no litter
Interesting video, i then lived in south africa for another 6 years, id walk around lots on sundays, from the city centre up to the east Rand shopping centre
Bezuidenhout Park, wonder what it looks like today, Cyrildene has meanwhile taken over by the chinese
Very interesting, thanks for uploading!
That little girl must be in her late 40s now… probably living in Perth.
Thanks for sharing.
"Where is the world that I recognise"
In Europe
@@tfmkhonza5084 Very sad your comment.
It was safe to walk around then /LOL! I bet everyone thought those days would never end?
very good. used to live in bez valley
You simply can't do this anymore. It's just far too dangerous. It's all gone with the wind.
So nice back then
Thanks for sharing
If only we could have the 1994 elections again !!!
To be fair, that area was already going downhill long before 1994. People were moving out of Berea and Hillbrow even in the 80s/early 90s because of crime. I would agree the ANC has done nothing to improve these old suburbs and things have only gone from bad to worse, but it's not like things were perfect in 1994 either.
Memories..! ❤
Amazing video! Sights include Windybrow (1:11), Nugget Hill (1:30) facing Cathedral of Christ the King and Doornfontein, Pullinger Kop (1:41), up Primrose Terrace in Berea (2:19) with Ridge Plaza on the right, Ponte tower seen from Berea Park (3:00). What's the park around the 10:00 mark...the Wilds? I love the inner city architecture. Sad that the area has decayed so much. Those parks should be a treasure for everyone in Joburg but instead have been left to rot.
10:43 no Electric fencing
1989 was the beginning of the end....though we didn't quite know it yet. The chaos that has since developed was just beginning to be felt in Joburg even though it was nothing compared to today.
I wonder how this area looks like today!
Disastrous
Not good. Many of the buildings are actually in pretty good shape but some are either highjacked or left to rot and the streets are mostly dirty and unkempt. I was in Berea Park last year and there were a lot of dodgy characters mulling about. Certainly not a place I'd find peaceful and relaxing. The Windybrow center is still in use. I'm pretty adventurous but I'd only walk around Berea during the day and in a group.
the good old days...
What apartheid is the good old days u racist fuck
To be fair, most of the high rise buildings were an architectural cancer even back then, the only sensible thing left to do now is to level the whole Hillbrow area and rebuild it completely.
That would probably go for the whole country.
It doesn't matter it had LIFE as in NY only safer then.
When I think how much I loved going to flee market on weekends
So what does it look like now?
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It is one big rubbish bin and is too dangerous to go there.
it is more livelier with amazing nightlife
@@aungmyintoo4635 You must be on drugs
@@christobosman5710 Nope. The native african are happy living in minimal and poor conditions. They don't care to improve, so long as other people maintain it for them. They will waller in the squaller.
This is Johannesburg before foreigners came
We didn't lose Johannesburg: we have it away!!!
Why!?...what right did we have to hand it over to evil!?
Good to see the old flag
Wipe your arse with that flag.
@@motosashi6971 no the old flag is not a jogstrap the new Mandela one is ,it's got Shi..on it from the start , so piss off idiot
And it's good to know the pale ones won't be waving that kak in our faces
@@walterjrwhite7352 yes the dark ones will be waving mandela's jog strap in your faces , enjoy the dirty stink , idiot , we whites will enjoying the beuatifull old clean one .
@@christobosman5710 yes yes😂😂😂 by all means please... Keep on waving it. Where nobody can see it. In the dark 😂 where it belongs 😂 *Ignant*
so clean jo,burg that time and look now haha groet van holland aan alle afrikaners.
A beautiful perfect first world country! Now, sadly a filthy, dirty, corrupt third world country. 😪
It wasn't as beautiful as people say it was.
And then all the chocolate-faced orcs came in and turned it into a living hell.
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What is glory for you is pain for others - how can such glory be blissful when its so painful for others? Only a cruel, self absorbed individual can take joy here.
No, Rule of Law means that people are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. You can't lump people together in your mind & accuse them without evidence. The sovereignty of the individual means each one can feel & think freely for themselves, thank you.
The joy is that the country was run properly and is was clean and safe. Now your ANC buddies have wrecked the entire country. I miss those days when we were safe. I don't miss the old government though.
@@guytero8812 i wish EFF can rule this country.
@@tfmkhonza5084 What an utterly stupid statement. The EFF will destroy the country even faster and more thoroughly than the ANC. They CANNOT and won't be able to run a country. Don't reply. Just remember what I have stated here and see that they will destroy it so fast that you will be starving and probably won't survive the coming war.
Miss you johannesburg