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How Every Member of Organization XIII Was A TRAITOR | Kingdom Hearts Theory (Part 1 of 2)

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  • Опубліковано 2 бер 2023
  • #organizationxiii #kingdomhearts #kh4
    Going down the list of organization members and laying out how all of them have committed an act of betrayal at one point or another throughout the Kingdom Hearts series and timeline.
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  • @ser2ser123
    @ser2ser123 Рік тому +33

    Yo, it is absolutely insane that every single member can be traced to a betrayal with all of them bearing the "X" sigil. The foresight in the narrative is incredible. Great Video Landi!

  • @bellharper1889
    @bellharper1889 Рік тому +29

    Awesome video. Maybe everyone is a traitor in a good way to seek their own future. Like how MoM said to Luxu,"May your heart be your guiding key. Your thoughts, your feelings, your actions-you are the key to the future. I'm counting on you, traitor Luxu."

  • @TheLandiLodge
    @TheLandiLodge  Рік тому +33

    EDIT: I forgot to include Vanitas!! Maybe I'll do a seperate video on his 'betrayal'
    I honestly think its so cool that every member of the Organization either was a traitor or has a history of betrayal leading up to their inclusion. Now that we know what we know about the Sigil "X" it makes it all the more interesting.
    Also...did I say Lexaeus right?🤣

    • @ultiementgmr6029
      @ultiementgmr6029 Рік тому +3

      Well to be fair it was an easy mistake to make when he's still called Dark Riku In Kingdom Hearts 3 even though he's just past Riku Replica calling himself that over a hissy fit LOL

  • @vjgak389
    @vjgak389 Рік тому +17

    Xemnas also was created via the same betrayal as ansem

  • @smh4960
    @smh4960 Рік тому +12

    I think you missed Vanitas
    From my understanding he actively pushed Sora to use thw power of waking on Ventus.
    I think this because he sure took his sweet time on what was suppised to be a killing blow on Aqua. And before that he even let them monologue, he was just waiting for the reaction he wanted from them. Then left as soon as Ventus was up and running.
    But I might also be reading too much into it

    • @TheLandiLodge
      @TheLandiLodge  Рік тому +3

      I could not shake the feeling i forgot someone. However the irony is that I dont think Vanitas ever 'betrayed' anyone.
      I cant imagine a time he acted against MX whom recruited him.
      I think this may need its own video...

    • @Fragmentsinfractals488
      @Fragmentsinfractals488 Рік тому +2

      @@TheLandiLodge Because Vanitas is the physical form of an Ancient Darkness, He is a Dark Vessel, one who for the X was made. Also, Master Xehanort threatens Vanitas in Dark Road, and when you fight Vanitas in the Badlands as Ventus, He tries to kill Ventus despite "the Master's orders". It is that Darkness Envy.
      Alo, in the manga, Vanitas doesn't actually like Xehanort.

    • @smh4960
      @smh4960 Рік тому

      @@TheLandiLodge He did try to kill Ventus against Xehanort's wishes. He only didnt succeed because Mickey was in the right place at the right time

  • @thegummiphone
    @thegummiphone Рік тому +6

    How did I live
    In a Kingdom of thieves
    And people who say
    Things they don’t really mean

  • @gracekim25
    @gracekim25 Рік тому +8

    Ah yes it makes you wonder why Xehanort even kept some of these guys around 😂

    • @Fragmentsinfractals488
      @Fragmentsinfractals488 Рік тому +9

      Because Xehanort sees them as tools. Also Betrayal breeds Darkness. And Xehanort whole thing is controlling Darkness for the Light. Also Luxu/Xigbar is in Xemnas/ Master Xehanort's ear. And Luxu has felt out Xehanort's Role and is insuring it comes to pass.

  • @notproductiveproductions3504
    @notproductiveproductions3504 Рік тому +2

    Vanitus was the darkness in Ven’s heart that compelled him to assassinate Strelitzia, making him the cause of an ancient betrayal.
    As for Young Xehanort, the best I can find is him contradicting his own intentions in his BBS optional fight by using the Doom spell. But it’s very unlikely that’s canon so…

  • @maykupi4147
    @maykupi4147 Рік тому +6

    Amazing Video :) Enjoyable :) Great Job :) Always Think That There Will Be A New Group Like Organization XIII In The Near Future Of KH :)

  • @figga645
    @figga645 Рік тому +1

    Guuuuuuuuuuuuud tidings ladies and gentlemen of the lodge ! Hope y’all have a great day.

  • @Antleredangelbun
    @Antleredangelbun 3 місяці тому

    IS YOUR INTRO A REMIX OF CALLING??!!?!?!?!??? CALLING IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE SONGS EVER ON EARTH!!!!!

  • @johnathonwilliams6489
    @johnathonwilliams6489 Рік тому +6

    Dark Riku is Riku replica from the past, not real Riku. That wouldn't make him a traitor as he's essentially his own character. Unless you have an example when Riku replica betrayed a certain party? Also I think I'm right about the Dark Riku being a time displaced Repliku. Maybe not though, as it is Kingdom Hearts after all. Respond if you got something.

    • @TheLandiLodge
      @TheLandiLodge  Рік тому +2

      There's actually a whole comment thread in this section discussing this. I believe PhantomStar laid it out the best so I've quoted them below, let me know what you think
      "If you wanna get technical tho, "Riku Replica" is modeled to be the same as Riku from KH1 who sided with the Darkness/Maleficent hence the name "Dark Riku." But they most likely call him "Dark Riku" because we have the dead Riku Replica with the real Riku already, so it won't be confusing to the player calling both Riku Replica lol"

    • @axinhedgelion8417
      @axinhedgelion8417 3 місяці тому

      @@TheLandiLodgethe “dead” Riku replica even said that the dark Riku that the real Riku was fighting, was the replica just like Repliku.

  • @kofxeno1657
    @kofxeno1657 Рік тому +2

    If Master Xehanort knew some of them would betray the Organization, then the reforging the X-blade would been failed?

    • @TheLandiLodge
      @TheLandiLodge  Рік тому

      The forging of the Keyblade didnt require them to be loyal to Xehanort, only for their darkness to clash with the light.
      All the battles between the Organization and The Guardians in the Keyblade Graveyard are what forged the X-Blade. Characters like Saix, has their own reasons for fighting and taking part in the clash.

  • @punkDTH
    @punkDTH 2 місяці тому

    micky let aqua in realm of darkness, donald n goofy left sora when riku got hold of the keyblade....

  • @CrissAN160
    @CrissAN160 3 місяці тому +1

    Notice how some of the traitors has an X in there name?

  • @shiloh2735
    @shiloh2735 2 місяці тому

    TECHNICALLY, Ienzo didnt know what he was doing when he initially bterayed ansem.

  • @lizbaughman5684
    @lizbaughman5684 4 місяці тому

    No dark riku is actually the riku replica seeing in castle oblivion

  • @HikaruCh.
    @HikaruCh. Рік тому

    I absolutely love this Organization and every character that has been built for their own purposes; so mysterious, deep and 'caring' for Roxas in 358/2 Days (something I'd like to add is the Sea-Salt Ice Cream Trio is my favorites of the 'OG Trio' ngl) and boy, not to mention Larxene is a cutie LMAO
    Out of all, Zexion, Axel, Marluxia, Xion and Saïx are my top favorites; Saïx for being the 'big boss around' type, Axel for the 'friend we need in real life', Marluxia just because he's a scythe user and has flower-theme to him, Zexion for the Riku-resemblance but darker and wizard-like person and Xion for being the cute girl who's shown a fragile yet strong character, as well as resembling Kairi and their friendship with Roxas and Axel .. y'know, I dunno if this is already a thing (currently playing 358 days and Re: Coded) but I'd love to see a combo/special with Sora, Roxas and Ventus/Vanitas, Kairi, Xion and Naminé would be awesome but Axel, Riku and Terra COULD BE MASSIVE DESTRUCTION XD

  • @Nebula_Protogen752
    @Nebula_Protogen752 25 днів тому

    Is there part 2 anywhere?

  • @DemiTrusdale3
    @DemiTrusdale3 Рік тому +1

    Do you suppose that… the person with the master of masters… is the 14th incarnation of Xehanort?
    I know that Luxu is the most likely candidate. But there are too many open ended questions ..
    I mean… apprentice Xehanort was aware of quadratum long before Ansem and co. even thought of such a thing existing.

  • @riamu94
    @riamu94 Рік тому +2

    What is the music that plays at the begining of this video? I love it!

    • @TheLandiLodge
      @TheLandiLodge  Рік тому +4

      Calling - The World Ends With You Soundtrack

    • @riamu94
      @riamu94 Рік тому

      I knew it sounded familiar! 😅 Thanks Landi! 👍🏽

  • @keeganguyer5237
    @keeganguyer5237 Рік тому +2

    Hooded Mother__ers stole my heart
    Can’t trust shi_!
    Stole some of my letters t__!
    Can’t have ____!

  • @mamelandro3972
    @mamelandro3972 Рік тому

    Luxu is so much a traitor that have an X even in his real name

  • @jacobweatherford4696
    @jacobweatherford4696 11 місяців тому

    I think the only person who was loyal to the organization was siax which only because he was a stick in the mud

  • @user-xd7lq8sq4m
    @user-xd7lq8sq4m 2 місяці тому

    Another interesting fact is that. Nobody in true organization cared about getting kingdom hearts other then master xehenort (not even his other versions care)
    Dark riku, hard to say but i think he never cared about kingdom hearts but only wanted to hurt riku and sora and was along for the ride
    Marluxia, doesn't give a fuck
    Laxrene, doesn't give a fuck
    Xigbar, do i need to say?
    Luxord, was already question shit midway kh3
    Xion,brainwashed
    Saix, a double agent
    Vanitas, only cares about ven
    Terranort, funnyly enough, i think this version is the only one who cares because he didn't exist long enough to not care
    Ansem, was already feed up with shit after learning he lost to 14 old, didn't care after others betrayels
    Xamnes, was along for the ride because he got nothing better to do
    Young xehenort, he do cares but weirdly never mentions it
    Master xehenort, wants that sweet kingdom hearts

  • @ultiementgmr6029
    @ultiementgmr6029 Рік тому +2

    wait isn't Dark Riku, Riku Replica?

    • @TheLandiLodge
      @TheLandiLodge  Рік тому +2

      Riku Replika is who Riku was communicating with in KH3 and asked him to save Namine

    • @ultiementgmr6029
      @ultiementgmr6029 Рік тому +2

      @@TheLandiLodge Yeah, But I thought the point of that scene with Dark Riku constantly saying "I'm the real one " and then Riku asking isn't Dark Riku him when Anesm Possised him then Riku Replica explaining that Dark Riku was not Riku but that Dark Riku was him [him being Riku Replica] I always thought that Dark Riku was Riku Replica just before or after his final showdown in Chain of Memory's and the Riku Replica that was helping Riku out was the Riku Replica who as he mentioned was the one who was lost in the Realm of Darkness after his defeat. so I thought there were too Riku Replicas.......damn it Kingdom Hearts never change LOL. Still a great video Landi.

    • @TheLandiLodge
      @TheLandiLodge  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for the Clarification fellas! This clears it up for me, I'll add a note to the pinned comment!

    • @TheLandiLodge
      @TheLandiLodge  Рік тому

      @phantomstar12345 - what do you make of this? - www.khwiki.com/Dark_Riku | The way I understand it "Dark Riku" and the Real Org 13's "Riku Replica" are seemingly the same.

    • @zephon6745
      @zephon6745 Рік тому +1

      Dark Riku/Past Riku Replica didn't betray Sora in Kh1.
      He betrayed Zexion in Chain of Memories by absorbing him and his powers. Vexen, Axel, Marluxia, and Larxane betrayed Riku Replica by having his memories changed.

  • @kevinpalmer4137
    @kevinpalmer4137 Рік тому

    Dark riku wasn't from kh1

  • @Star-vw2qf
    @Star-vw2qf Рік тому +1

    Wow

  • @smiley4249
    @smiley4249 3 місяці тому

    Xenahort?
    Another X
    One more traitor to the batch.

  • @SaltedMallows
    @SaltedMallows Рік тому +1

    Fix that title bro what is this?
    "Was Every member of organization XIII Was a traitor?" What does this mean

    • @TheLandiLodge
      @TheLandiLodge  Рік тому

      This video was up for 2 months and not 1 Person brought this up lol. It was supposed to be "HOW Every Organization XIII Member Was A Traitor" It has since been fixed. Thank you 😂

  • @samadwan
    @samadwan 6 місяців тому

    How are they all traitors lol yo lol