1966 Pontiac GTO vs 1968 Hurst Olds 455 PURE STOCK DRAG RACE - no commentary

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  • 1966 Pontiac GTO 389 Tri-Power drag racing 1968 Hurst Olds.
    First car is a 1966 Pontiac GTO. The other a 1968 Hurst Olds. The Pontiac GTO has a 389 V8, and the Hurst Olds a 455 V8. The GTO was rated 360 horsepower. The Hurst Olds was rated 390 horsepower. The Hurst Olds only came with a TH400 3-speed automatic transmission. The featured Pontiac GTO has a 4-speed manual transmission. The GTO has a 4.33 rear gear while the Hurst Olds has its factory 3.91 gears. With driver, the GTO weighs 3695 pounds. The Hurst Olds is coming in at 3924 pounds. There were 19,045 1966 Pontiac GTOs produced with tri-power. There were 515 1968 Hurst Olds produced. Car and Driver ran a 1966 GTO to 14.0 seconds @ 105 mph. The Hurst Olds ran a blistering 0-60 of 5.4 seconds and the quarter mile in 13.9 seconds @ 103 mph.
    Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race. FAST factory appearing stock tire factory stock.
    Remember, both cars participate in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race series, so please check out their website: www.psmcdr.com
    Also make sure you find them out on Facebook.
    The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:
    For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
    Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
    Any convertible running faster than 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
    Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
    All Engines - 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
    The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
    The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
    The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
    The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
    Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
    The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
    The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
    The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
    The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
    Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
    Factory wheels only.
    Disclaimer: The Cars And Zebras UA-cam channel is a news channel bringing results/news of drag racing with added history of automobiles. All footage/pictures used were either captured by the Cars And Zebras channel, or used for critique purposes under Fair Use.
    #oldsmobile #pontiac #musclecar
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  • @Mr100asd
    @Mr100asd 3 роки тому +20

    389 against 455 VERY respectable ! I still have a 66 GTO convertible since new weighs in @ 3990 lbs NO PASSENGER, running a 66 421 HO with headers 433 gears, best time 12.42 @ 111 mph. I have the time slips too prove !!

    • @tomcomiskey6350
      @tomcomiskey6350 3 роки тому +8

      I bought the 66 GTO when I got out of Nam , wish I still had it!!!

    • @sergeantmasson3669
      @sergeantmasson3669 Рік тому +4

      @@tomcomiskey6350 When I returned home (second tour) from Vietnam in 1969 (medevac duty), I built a '57 Ford Custom 2 dr sedan street legal NHRA E/G, E/MP, D/G drag car that set two records and won 3 class championships. I also bought a new all options yellow 1969 Boss 302 Mustang from TASCA Ford in RI. I still have both cars today and both are registered and driven quite often.

    • @jenkemjones68
      @jenkemjones68 Рік тому +1

      Love it

    • @user-sx7qh3zx1t
      @user-sx7qh3zx1t 4 місяці тому

      Stock hurst olds 4 speed was faster than that low 12s high 11s if you knew how to drive it

  • @gary9426
    @gary9426 3 роки тому +27

    How can you not love both of these classics?! Olds was heavier, while the Goat was giving up a lot of cubes, but had steeper gearing and the 4 speed...awesome race! The '66 GTO was the best looking Goat Pontiac ever built, imo...beautiful car.

    • @gregblack3860
      @gregblack3860 3 роки тому +2

      Yes I had a 65 . The little changes from the 64 made it look really good .

    • @tleav61
      @tleav61 3 роки тому +4

      I agree with you on the “66”. There was nothing like it, and never will be. I was an Oldsmobile (4-4-2) man myself, but I did own a “66” for a short time.

    • @gary9426
      @gary9426 3 роки тому +1

      @@tleav61 Love those 4-4-2's from the '60s!

    • @sergeantmasson3669
      @sergeantmasson3669 2 роки тому +1

      @@gary9426 Non A/C '68 Hurst 442's came with 3:91 gears posi rear differentials. '68 Hurst 442's always had traction problems. I know that from experience because I had one.

    • @gary9426
      @gary9426 2 роки тому

      @@sergeantmasson3669 I love the Hurst Olds...and the '68s are my favorite...more subtle, lol. Those 455s were torque monsters...too much power for those old school tires to handle! Glad you had the chance to own one...gotta love those '68s!

  • @jakeorenzo1009
    @jakeorenzo1009 3 роки тому +25

    LOVE the GTO!!!!!!!!

  • @lilibethdoherty295
    @lilibethdoherty295 3 роки тому +13

    The 4:33 rear gear was the big difference in the GTO. The cutlass has the 455 Torque Monster!

    • @a.k.a.A.E.
      @a.k.a.A.E. 3 роки тому +3

      And the gto is 300 pound lighter !

  • @hardwurk2012
    @hardwurk2012 3 роки тому +42

    Two of my favorite branches of gm! Why gm? Just why? The car world isnt the same without olds and pontiac.

    • @reaperthemad8731
      @reaperthemad8731 3 роки тому +11

      Decades of bad management. We're not selling enough coupes? Well forget making them better just let Nissan have all the sales. Now we're not selling enough sedans? Let the sales go to Hyundai, Kia, and Toyota. We don't have time to make cars people want.
      I also blame auto mags that spent forever pooping on anything American. Not to mention them constantly comparing say, a $25k American car vs a $50k foreign car and then saying the American car was cheap.

    • @originalpunkSxE
      @originalpunkSxE 3 роки тому +4

      @@reaperthemad8731 I'm a Pontiac guy myself. The mismanagement of Pontiac started as far back as the 1970's. GM wanted to increase sales so they tried to make them more like Chevy. They didn't realize that people bought Pontiacs precisely because they WEREN'T Chevy. It takes a special kind of stupid to let brands with as much charisma as Pontiac and Olds fall by the wayside.
      But yeah, you're right. GM didn't even care until Toyota passed them in sales. By then it was too late.

    • @billyhndrsn4542
      @billyhndrsn4542 3 роки тому +3

      GM had the opportunity to sell Pontiac, Saturn into private hands, Olds would of maybe followed the same way. But GM decided to let them die out instead. Penske wanted Pontiac, I would of loved to see their modern interpretation of the GTO, or a Olds 442. These brands are instead g o n e . GM is to blame.

    • @originalpunkSxE
      @originalpunkSxE 3 роки тому +2

      @@billyhndrsn4542 That's correct as well. I heard that Penske wanted Saturn, but who would have given up an opportunity to own Pontiac too?! My opinion is that GM at least knew that, in the right hands, a correctly run Pontiac/Olds/Saturn brand would have sent original GM running to the hills, so they let them die out instead.

    • @thekingsilverado9004
      @thekingsilverado9004 3 роки тому +1

      That is 4 sure. My Lemans with the Pontiac 350 and 2-4bbls used to clean house where I grew up.

  • @jayreezy6733
    @jayreezy6733 Рік тому +1

    The Hurst Olds 442 W30 is my all time favorite vintage muscle car! My father owned one, and I've been in love with them ever since! My dream is to own one one day

  • @dantegmo
    @dantegmo 3 роки тому +10

    Come on C&Z, my wife has given me less silent treatment 😂 That Hurst 455 was sweeeeeet!

  • @viper771
    @viper771 3 роки тому +7

    Love them both but my first old muscle car was a 68 442.. and I love the ultra rare 68 hurst olds! Rocket power!! :)

    • @danalarose846
      @danalarose846 3 роки тому

      Have a 75 jet boat with a 455 rocket. 😏

  • @slyane7320
    @slyane7320 3 роки тому +44

    Not the same without the voice commentary...the passion just isn't there...
    Hope you're well brother...please comment on the videos...

    • @bbgcars
      @bbgcars 3 роки тому

      YUP! I HOPE HES OK..wonder whos posting his videos?

    • @dirtbike9003
      @dirtbike9003 3 роки тому

      Bubba from county.... Lol. I think UA-cam stepped on his style, IMO.

    • @bbgcars
      @bbgcars 3 роки тому

      @@dirtbike9003 I HOPE NOT! Jack Vale films does farting and indecent shit all the time! lmao..but hope this dude comes back real soon, as iw as saying in previous post this channel is not better than the original FAST racing series channel..Boooorrriinnng..

    • @therealhonestabe7839
      @therealhonestabe7839 3 роки тому

      @@dirtbike9003 I just don't understand that stupid opinion. UA-cam doesn't give a flying F what channels do. You seriously think they even know a channel with under 30K subs is making fart jokes? Dumb.

    • @jameshswor
      @jameshswor 3 роки тому

      @@therealhonestabe7839 what's dumb is thinking any of us isn't being watched...

  • @ronfoley5683
    @ronfoley5683 3 роки тому +7

    Two gorgeous vehicles and two lucky owners.

  • @imstandingrightbehindyou9185
    @imstandingrightbehindyou9185 3 роки тому +3

    Now that’s a close race!

  • @markwhitton8230
    @markwhitton8230 3 роки тому +10

    I knew it was going to be a toss up, considering the weight, hp, and gearing.

    • @tomm9860
      @tomm9860 9 місяців тому

      yea me 2

  • @charlesdalton985
    @charlesdalton985 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the race, darn close! Based on times, these are both very close to stock. Take care, stay safe 👍

  • @roseheart7227
    @roseheart7227 3 роки тому +3

    LOVE them BOTH!

  • @bruceallen6016
    @bruceallen6016 3 роки тому +5

    Great race! I certainly hope the bean counters at GM lost their jobs for cutting these two lines.

  • @zxtenn
    @zxtenn 3 роки тому +4

    WOW, BOTH beautiful examples, seems the Olds was WAY down on MPH though, respectable times and the drivers knew how to make the best of the traction available

  • @bw3506
    @bw3506 3 роки тому +19

    Did anyone else hear 4th gear tire chirp?

    • @Fresh-tw7ev
      @Fresh-tw7ev 3 роки тому +3

      Yep I heard it

    • @jakeorenzo1009
      @jakeorenzo1009 3 роки тому +1

      I heard it!!!

    • @thekingsilverado9004
      @thekingsilverado9004 3 роки тому +1

      My neighbor has an odd ball 68 Frog Shit green and black stripe Judge with the Tri Power set up. Ignites alotta arguments as to when the Judge actually came out and it was unusual with the stripe package. The car was allegedly a special order for some mucky mucky at IBM computers. There is a build sheet with the car and the original owners name attached to the owners manual. It was sold at Caralise car show to my neighbor summer of 1997. The car had a Calif title originally. The only thing not original on the car is the radio speakers and tires. I believe the shocks and exhaust are also not OEM it has some kind of funky rear resonators like the Bonnevilles had and glass pack mufflers which were not OEM stuff.

    • @bw3506
      @bw3506 3 роки тому

      @@thekingsilverado9004 bet that FSG color on the order form couldn't be passed up! Literally made me laugh out loud on that one.

    • @thekingsilverado9004
      @thekingsilverado9004 3 роки тому

      @@bw3506 u AIN'T KIDDING BUT THE BUILD SHEET IS AGES OLD SO IT AIN'T MADE UP. THERE IS ANOTHER FREAK RUNNING AROUND COOPERSBURG pa. SAME M.O. NOT A KNOWN SPECIES OF GTO BLUE AND WHITE STRIPES. GM MADE A FEW CUSTOM FREAKS... THEY R DOING WITH THE NEW SILVERADOS WITH THAT 2-TONE 70'S PAINT SCEME THING COOKED UP.SAME SHIT DIFF DAY... MAKES ME WONDER NOT LAUGH. THE BLUE AND WHITE GOAT IT'S NOT AN KNOWN GM BLUE COLOR CODE THAT I SAY FOR SURE... IS IT MADE UP A FAKE??? WHO THE HELL KNOWS AFTER ALMOST 50 YEARS.

  • @unclebob7937
    @unclebob7937 3 роки тому +8

    Over the years I've owned 389s and 455s
    Both are bullit proof torque monsters from
    When GM was great.

    • @OpenRoader
      @OpenRoader 3 роки тому

      Hey Bob, what kind of gas mileage do these cars get?

    • @unclebob7937
      @unclebob7937 3 роки тому +2

      @@OpenRoader Howdy partner!
      Back in the day, had a 59 Starchief Pontiac with the 389/ hydramatic 4 speed auto. With a good tune up this old heavy girl avg around 15 mpg. Now the GTO i had was 389 3 duces 4 speed ,safety trac posi
      Lumpy cam closer to 11 mpg.
      70 Cutlass had 360 hp 455 with 400 turbo hydramatic (3 sp) 3.73 posi
      Got bout 15 mpg... unless leadfoot occurs lol. A lot of us used the later overdrive automatics to get better mpg. But hey ya don't drive old big blocks for mileage. I call it smiles per gallon.👍😎🏁

    • @OpenRoader
      @OpenRoader 3 роки тому +1

      @@unclebob7937 15 mpg isn't bad really. That's still a useable daily driver. I could see a six pack drinking the fuel. An over drive might bring you 17mpg? Maybe? Thanks for the reply. Big block fun for sure

    • @unclebob7937
      @unclebob7937 3 роки тому +1

      @@OpenRoader Another comment. Those old pre smog big blocks don't need mods to make a great cruiser/hot rod. Where small ohc engines like to rev high, the old motors were all about torque witch came on 1500 thru 3500 rpm. No reason to rev these over 4500.

    • @OpenRoader
      @OpenRoader 3 роки тому +1

      @@unclebob7937 Thanks for the additional info!

  • @taylorpinkney7253
    @taylorpinkney7253 3 роки тому +5

    I love that 66 GTO

  • @plymouthdie-castreplicas
    @plymouthdie-castreplicas 3 роки тому +4

    Nice battle of GM brothers;-)

  • @gregkistner1955
    @gregkistner1955 3 роки тому +3

    Both cars! Awesome!

  • @romanduque2204
    @romanduque2204 3 роки тому +2

    I have a 455 Olds Modifiedm Dual Exhaust with H Pipe. All the way Back. Silent But Deadly. Ate alot ofMustangs, Vets and even the first Porche V8. Pontiacs have the Same silent Treatment.

    • @mattstankes-jb9os
      @mattstankes-jb9os 5 місяців тому

      Nice job out there on the race 5.0 is quite fast but it could not hang with a modded.buick grand national

  • @burningblue1254
    @burningblue1254 3 роки тому +4

    I thought the Hurst might outrun the Goat by more than that. But it looks like the 4 speed gave it the extra legs just before the traps. Love the simple and straightforward nature of these 2 cars. Not a lot of crazy colors, spoilers, air dams etc that just add weight.

  • @Spunky-iq8jm
    @Spunky-iq8jm 2 роки тому

    I had a dark green Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme with green vinyl roof in 1973. It had a 350 4 barrel with 2 speed automatic.
    The speedometer went up to 120 mph. I had the speedometer at the 6 o'clock position. Probably around 130 mph.
    The 68's had nice tail lights. A nice car and it would lay rubber without any problem.

  • @68dart
    @68dart 3 роки тому

    Awesome , Thanks

  • @maxkarahalios5445
    @maxkarahalios5445 3 роки тому +1

    This is my dream race.

  • @dirtbike9003
    @dirtbike9003 3 роки тому +18

    Hope C&Z ain’t takin it up the tailpipe in prison.... Miss the humor!!

    • @theangrydragon182
      @theangrydragon182 3 роки тому +2

      That's a very strange fantasy you have.

    • @dirtbike9003
      @dirtbike9003 3 роки тому +2

      Just trying to fill in. No fartstho

    • @DeanMk1
      @DeanMk1 3 роки тому

      I always preferred the earlier "silent" videos. Gave me more of a feeling of "being there". Nice to see that format return. Thanks you C's & Z's.

    • @NoPrivateProperty
      @NoPrivateProperty 3 роки тому

      white guys get to liking it up the tailpipe right quick. like a duck to water

    • @therobert9521
      @therobert9521 3 роки тому

      @@NoPrivateProperty only liberal men. But that's the only way thier woman will give them any.

  • @y161
    @y161 3 роки тому +6

    DeLorean made a monster!

  • @policeofficer94
    @policeofficer94 3 роки тому +12

    THIS IS BULLSHIT C&Z!! NO C&Z COMMENTARY AND QUIPS!? You know, I sent Jay Leno hate mail because I love your channel and videos so much. WTF DUDE!? COME BACK!!

  • @davidbattaglia2336
    @davidbattaglia2336 3 роки тому +14

    Hoping the narration and silly humor returns to the videos. It is missed.

    • @therealhonestabe7839
      @therealhonestabe7839 3 роки тому +4

      It won’t return. He’s obviously gone back to his original video style. And David, if you haven’t noticed, I’m right again.

  • @craigm2484
    @craigm2484 3 роки тому

    Both wicked nice cars we got nothing but snow on the ground here so No shenanigans for another few months.

  • @adama739
    @adama739 2 роки тому +1

    There is a stock 68 Hurst Olds (with patina) on UA-cam that runs a 12.91 against a 454HO Trans Am. This one is running quite right...timing, carb...something.

  • @morganbrantley9058
    @morganbrantley9058 3 роки тому +1

    What do you call that tuning device the 66 gto has hanging in it ?

  • @fd797
    @fd797 3 роки тому +6

    How does that 4-speed GTO keep its nose up in the air the whole track? I kept waiting to see the nose drop on a shift. None.

    • @billdicicco
      @billdicicco 3 роки тому +3

      The old 90/10 drag shocks. Go up easy, stiff coming down.

    • @74beeper97
      @74beeper97 3 роки тому

      @@billdicicco That's what she said

  • @chrishill1286
    @chrishill1286 3 роки тому +7

    Sorry for whatever is happening brother. I enjoy these blasts from my days. Take care now, we miss you.

    • @benkrom2737
      @benkrom2737 3 роки тому +2

      He's social distancing ! Just in case you can spread covid-19 over the Interweb !

    • @therealhonestabe7839
      @therealhonestabe7839 3 роки тому

      Why are you assuming something is wrong? This is how all of his original videos were.

    • @chrishill1286
      @chrishill1286 3 роки тому

      @@therealhonestabe7839 SO? THats not what we have seen and HEARD over the last two years. If it continues well, they channel will have attrition. Is that clear enough Abe?

    • @therealhonestabe7839
      @therealhonestabe7839 3 роки тому

      @@chrishill1286 Clear enough for everyone to realize what a crybaby simp you are. FYI, he didn't do the voice over for 2 years. Is that clear enough Chris?

    • @brianmaynard7320
      @brianmaynard7320 3 роки тому

      @@therealhonestabe7839 you know? You're a real DICK!!! Get a life.. People just aren't fans of the NO Commentary, they've come to love..
      Just SHUT THE FEK UP ALREADY!! JESUS!!

  • @jameshswor
    @jameshswor 3 роки тому +2

    For those of us that are reading impaired, can you leave the captions up a bit longer?

  • @louiskats5116
    @louiskats5116 3 роки тому

    Godday C & Z,
    That is a top race, considering the ET on the Poncho it should of got in the 13's for sure, & such smooth shifting you would of thought it was a auto box.
    Those bad ass Hurst Old's, the first original BB GM A Bodies, before Yenko & Nicky & the likes.
    So underrated & unappreciated because it isn’t a Chev.
    Dr Old's build a lean & mean machine & @ 500 ft lbs of torque it was more torque than a Hemi.
    If only Oldsmobile went NASCAR racing with it then it would be considered a legend.
    Great race, beautiful Poncho there interior design is so beautiful with the chrome.
    Keep the great videos coming 👍
    Your number 1 Fan in Australia
    Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤

  • @heysailorreedy6651
    @heysailorreedy6651 2 місяці тому

    love seeing factory stock muscle car running the strip

  • @paramounttechnicalconsulti5219

    Love the Red Walls!

  • @NOLL72
    @NOLL72 3 роки тому

    My 1/2-brother had a '66 GTO like this and took me for a ride in it. That ride made me a gear-head. I later built 'sleepers' that would put his GTO into the weeds. [Wink.] JMO.

  • @netrioter
    @netrioter 2 роки тому

    Digging the no dialogue videos

  • @archiebunker6059
    @archiebunker6059 3 роки тому +4

    I think that the Olds had a plug wire fall off or the Goat is passing a 421 off as a 389. 😐

  • @bigthunder2860
    @bigthunder2860 3 роки тому +1

    My bro had a 66GTO with 400 tri power it sang along,I never was a oldsmobile lover

    • @tleav61
      @tleav61 3 роки тому

      I liked them both, but I was partial to the 4-4-2 because there wasn’t as many around. I think I was the only kid in high school with a 4-4-2. Everyone else was running around in Chevelle’s ,GTO’s & Camaro’s.

  • @Gilbert440
    @Gilbert440 3 роки тому +5

    Sad, back in the days, even about 10-15 years ago, those stands would have been filled with enthusiasts and spectators. Now everyone is too busy on their stupid phones and nobody knows how to do shit, least of all work on cars.

    • @seefooddiet4437
      @seefooddiet4437 3 роки тому +2

      They arent full because people with attitudes like yours scared them off.

    • @bk14nyc
      @bk14nyc 3 роки тому

      I’m afraid Gilbert is 100 % CORRECT!

    • @seefooddiet4437
      @seefooddiet4437 3 роки тому +1

      @@bk14nyc Gilbert is a condescending a-hole and exactly the reason why young people don't want to associate with the older population. When I was a kid the old guys were great... very welcoming and fun to talk to. Now old men are insecure jerks.

  • @sergeantmasson3669
    @sergeantmasson3669 2 роки тому +1

    '68 Hurst Olds 442 always had a traction problem. I know that from experience because I had one.

  • @henerygreen578
    @henerygreen578 Рік тому

    whats with the red fender wells ??????

  • @paulcondie2520
    @paulcondie2520 3 роки тому +1

    Growing up I was fortunate to experience first hand a 1969 442. My best friend had one. Actually his parents but we had it more than not. And theirs was just the 400 from what I remember at 390hp? Correct me if I'm wrong. Some serious torque just from my butt dyno! Lol. Edit, after watching video maybe it was a 455? I remember same rear at those numbers

  • @cherrylove3656
    @cherrylove3656 Рік тому

    nice listen to that mechanical heart beating in that Olds the cam makes it sound so sweet like it has soul cars today don't sound like this

  • @bobwallace9814
    @bobwallace9814 3 роки тому +4

    Back when GM built excitement.

  • @zoltanliszkai2162
    @zoltanliszkai2162 Рік тому +1

    Who remembers a 65 or 66 GTO that had a SOHC 6cylinder with either a 4bbl or dual 2bbl carbs

  • @toddburgess6792
    @toddburgess6792 2 місяці тому

    That 1966 GTO's MSRP was $.86/lb.
    A 2006 GTO's MSRP was $8.89/lb.

  • @BladeRunner25463c
    @BladeRunner25463c Рік тому +1

    Drooling 😍

  • @johnwilkerson2195
    @johnwilkerson2195 Рік тому

    I'd love to have both cars

  • @a.k.a.A.E.
    @a.k.a.A.E. 3 роки тому

    What for an muffler use the olds !???

  • @sometimesieatcake4156
    @sometimesieatcake4156 3 роки тому +1

    That Hurst Olds is downright nasty.

  • @Wireman134
    @Wireman134 3 роки тому +1

    Cheap stripped GTO build for racing vs a luxury Old's torque monster. That drives way nicer...

  • @howabouthetruth2157
    @howabouthetruth2157 2 роки тому +1

    That's funny: the cars actually ran slower than original testing decades ago.

  • @CarefulWithThatAxeEugene
    @CarefulWithThatAxeEugene 3 роки тому

    Where's the commentary?? That was my second favorite thing about the videos, the cars come fitst lol. Except a FoRd...

  • @DeanMk1
    @DeanMk1 3 роки тому

    Interesting result.
    Pontiac red lights, but it also gets the win light at the other end.
    Watch when the times come up on the board. The little white "win" light lights up on the Pontiac side....could be a malfunction at the drag strip.

    • @aphil4581
      @aphil4581 Рік тому

      The 442 had a very low MPH too and he didn't let off either.

    • @DeanMk1
      @DeanMk1 Рік тому

      @@aphil4581 Carb might need a little tuning.

  • @James-qz2ny
    @James-qz2ny Місяць тому

    Lots of power no brakes ya baby ya

  • @jerrycraig6522
    @jerrycraig6522 3 роки тому +2

    That goat is badass!!!

  • @frog6202
    @frog6202 3 роки тому

    14.01et with 400 335hp /400turbo with minor carb remetering '67 GTO convt on 14" whitewalls

  • @davehotz5169
    @davehotz5169 3 роки тому +1

    Man them 60 s GM cars bad ass and look good

  • @gregorybarnes3526
    @gregorybarnes3526 3 роки тому +2

    The 390 hp 455 should be racing a 69 Grand Prix 390hp 428 4speed

  • @robertwright5487
    @robertwright5487 3 роки тому

    What happened to the commentary? Haven't heard any for a while.

  • @VG-iq8xq
    @VG-iq8xq 3 роки тому +2

    You would think these two sweet cars could get 13.50 easily with some tweaks.

  • @BradLeeJokes
    @BradLeeJokes 3 роки тому +3

    dude where’s the voice?

  • @user-sx7qh3zx1t
    @user-sx7qh3zx1t 5 місяців тому +1

    A real hurst olds in 68 was a 4 speed manual

  • @nealcausey9395
    @nealcausey9395 3 роки тому

    Did I see a little puff of smoke from the right tailpipe of the Olds?

  • @robertmetzger1753
    @robertmetzger1753 3 роки тому

    Ok !! Without finishing ( paused ) Video Iam gonna go with the GTO ! BUT It'll probably be the HURST !! HERE GOES ( continuing on )

  • @badgerbait8351
    @badgerbait8351 3 роки тому

    As I recall, in PSMCD, cars can have a 2.5" exhaust pipe. However, looking at the video at 4:45, the Olds clearly doesn't have 2.5" pipes?! That would make a huge difference in power! Anyhoo, two absolutely amazing cars!

    • @wildrosegarage4208
      @wildrosegarage4208 3 роки тому +1

      Wouldn't make a difference because the high performance olds manifolds have only 2 1/4'' outlets. I run a olds.

    • @badgerbait8351
      @badgerbait8351 3 роки тому

      @@wildrosegarage4208 What a horrible thing to do to a big cube muscle car!

    • @wildrosegarage4208
      @wildrosegarage4208 3 роки тому

      @@badgerbait8351 The olds W Z manifolds are are a good design they have individual runners cast into them like a shorty header but the collector outlet is to small being only 2 1/4''. I have been told that a strong high performance street and strip olds 455 will pick up 40-50h.p. with long tubes and 3'' . I run a 488 stroker olds powered G body that is pretty mild and I am running the manifolds still because headers cost 1500 and american racing is the only company making them now. I might upgrade to a thorton shorty header with a 2 1/2'' collector but won't gain like long tubes. Ran 12.7 @107 through manifolds but there is still a lot left to gain. You should see the manifolds on non high performance 455's there are a log manifold and the drivers side connects to the passenger side then goes out. Passenger manifold has a inlet and a outlet. There is a lot to gain on the exhaust side of these motors starting at the head exhaust ports they flow poorly and with smog J heads they are even worse. I played with a junk yard 1976 8:1 smog 455 with J heads in my G body for a bit, It was only rated at 190h.p. I put on the better WZ manifolds a performer intake added a bunch of timing and had it tuned perfect and pulled off 13.8 @96.7 which is quicker than the hurst just did with a junk yard 455 smog motor with unknown miles and pure stock internals shifted at 4700rpm. The heads have the exhaust ports joined in two parts in the center cylinders. The worst thing about Olds big blocks are the exhaust side of things and having a tiny bore and long stroke they are hard to get to flow because of small valves and horrible exhaust port design. They also have these air bumps cast into the head I could go on
      all day about.

    • @badgerbait8351
      @badgerbait8351 3 роки тому

      @@wildrosegarage4208 They really do look like a good flowing manifold! BTW, I just finished installing a mildly built 455 (C heads w/oversized valves, 9.5:1 cr, .226/.230 @ .050 cam, etc.) and purchased a set of Mondello Performance Products headers, and I was pleasantly surprised with the quality and fit! I think they were just over $700.00.

    • @shanemitchell477
      @shanemitchell477 Рік тому +1

      Are the GTO tri-power setup allowed to be all linkage instead of vacuum in that class? That makes a HUGE difference in how the 389 tri runs.

  • @ricomartinez2869
    @ricomartinez2869 3 роки тому

    No more voice over???

  • @TheLucasthatyouknow
    @TheLucasthatyouknow 3 роки тому +1

    Where is the commentator? He makes these videos.

  • @williamrare
    @williamrare 3 роки тому

    The 68 Hurst Olds wow black/gray only, it says 390hp but for insurance cost down I bet it was about 450hp

  • @wdfaws8124
    @wdfaws8124 3 роки тому

    Looks like the Olds shut down just a little early.

  • @ztwntyn8
    @ztwntyn8 3 роки тому +12

    Too much gear in the goat. 3.90 is ideal for drag Pontiac with Stock heads.

    • @mocarpenter8836
      @mocarpenter8836 3 роки тому +1

      Even 4.10s would be better than damn 4.33s !! But I agree 3.90s or even 3.73s IMO would go down better!!

    • @benkrom2737
      @benkrom2737 3 роки тому +2

      Mph says different, maybe because GTO had a 4spd manual and 66 less cubes had something to do with it. Also was last year for tri-power cause of the difficulty to tune.

    • @nealcausey9395
      @nealcausey9395 3 роки тому +1

      Figuring 28 inch tall tires, which on 14 inch rims and 70 profile tires, which is probably about what they are, that puts the GTO at about 5200 rpms at the finish. Its top speed probably wouldn't be but a few mph higher, but I figure that's about perfect for that 389 to still be pulling at the traps but almost topped out. The engineers who designed these cars knew what they were doing. Sure you could get a 3.23 gear if you wanted a top speed monster or probably 4.88 or lower if you were doing 1/8 miles drags, but optimum 1/4 runs was what they were going for.

    • @benkrom2737
      @benkrom2737 3 роки тому +1

      @@nealcausey9395 The MPH difference supports your thoughts.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 3 роки тому +2

      My buds ol 67 rocked with 3.90s.
      It was 400 (supposedly)set up to ram air 4 spec and the good 670 heads.
      Th-400 trans though.
      The guy he got it from had a few 12.3-12.4 timeslips.
      It was enough to make us kids shit our pants , was definitely the fastest car in the school lot even if he bought it that way.

  • @ethegreat_
    @ethegreat_ 10 місяців тому

    Oldsmobile is the underdog 💪

  • @mocarpenter8836
    @mocarpenter8836 3 роки тому +2

    ?? For someone smarter than me... The Badge on the side of the GTO said 6.5 liter. Now I owned a Mayfair Maze 68 400ci Ram Air, & it wore the same Badge... My ? is.. Is the 389ci & the 400ci both considered 6.5 Liter?? I have been a PMD fan most my 53yrs, but never noticed that before. Or maybe I did and just forgot !! Lmao I did smoke alot of pot back in the day !!! Lmao

    • @jasonescott
      @jasonescott 3 роки тому +4

      1 cubic liter = 61.024 cubic inches, so 389 cu in = 6.375 cubic liters while 400 cu in = 6.555 cubic liters. So it seems that Pontiac rounded up a little for the 389 and down a little for the 400 ... which they later labeled as 6.6L on T/As.

    • @robertbeirne9813
      @robertbeirne9813 3 роки тому +3

      @@jasonescott T/A’s labeled 6.6L, were Olds 403’s, ironically enough.

    • @jasonescott
      @jasonescott 3 роки тому +2

      @@robertbeirne9813 Excellent point! I forgot the 400's had "400" decals on the shaker, not 6.6L. Thanks for reminding me and clarifying that for others!

    • @mocarpenter8836
      @mocarpenter8836 3 роки тому

      @@jasonescott Thnx for the 411

    • @Dayandcounting
      @Dayandcounting 3 роки тому

      @@robertbeirne9813 The 6.6L decal was used on Pontiac 400's from 77 on. It's was a result of Smoke in the Bandit movie car which effectively became the 77 proto type.

  • @Greaseland
    @Greaseland 3 роки тому

    Let's take a survey. Who would you like to be the replacement commenter. I'd like Uncle Tony of Utg or Daryl from Vice grip.

  • @tomconner5067
    @tomconner5067 3 роки тому

    Weight with driver 3,695lbs. less than my ex's late 06-2007 Lexus ES350 with my 225+ pounds, the Olds weighed 3,924 with driver, curb weight without any fluids, on the Lexus was 3,842 in that option package still quite a bit less than an economy executive platform car that gets you no where in a rush with a 3.5L V6, that's short on the thrills

  • @danhillman4523
    @danhillman4523 3 роки тому

    HA HA! Fade to black. Love it.

  • @ghostpepper69
    @ghostpepper69 3 роки тому

    I won't be watching anymore if he can't even say why he doesn't do the commentary anymore. Good luck!

    • @turboturd5289
      @turboturd5289 3 роки тому

      So you think you are entitled to his personal business?

  • @mr.toobigformypants8145
    @mr.toobigformypants8145 3 роки тому

    There is no replacement for displacement.

  • @sergeantmasson3669
    @sergeantmasson3669 Рік тому

    4:33 rear gears NOT stock for that GTO. Equal gearing, the W30 Hurst Olds wins every time

  • @mikeyerke3920
    @mikeyerke3920 3 роки тому

    Even more hilarious without the commentary... just read the comments for a laugh. 👀

  • @brucebryan4081
    @brucebryan4081 2 роки тому

    Could Cars and Zebras record a race between a 69 LeMans 350 HO vs a 69 Cutlass 350 ???

  • @warobipowell9678
    @warobipowell9678 3 роки тому

    Not a 66 Got but a 67. 66 GTO did not have hood scoope and tail lights were not louvered.

    • @imstandingrightbehindyou9185
      @imstandingrightbehindyou9185 3 роки тому +5

      That’s a ‘66. The louvered taillights are a dead give away. And there was a hood scoop in 1966. Try using Google next time.

  • @ckryses3962
    @ckryses3962 3 роки тому

    Yippeeeeeee, yeahhhhh babbyyy!! My fav cars close to heart here shown face off with each other!! Always I used to get mad about decent 68 Hurst! I used to correct people 68 Hurst is much gorgeous than your Chevelle! More manly and handsome!!
    ❤️❤️❤️❤️68 Hurst ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Litauen-yg9ut
    @Litauen-yg9ut 2 роки тому

    I thought the 455 didn't come out until 1970

    • @markg7030
      @markg7030 9 місяців тому

      True, but the Hurst/Olds is prepped by an outside company and the rules were bent by this process. Look at the window stickers. The 68 and 69 H/O were the only cars that circumvented the G.M. rules until 1970.

  • @DL-dj9mn
    @DL-dj9mn 3 роки тому

    I think there’s something wrong with your inflation calculator

    • @therealhonestabe7839
      @therealhonestabe7839 3 роки тому

      I think you don’t understand inflation

    • @DL-dj9mn
      @DL-dj9mn 3 роки тому +1

      @@therealhonestabe7839 please explain. Cause I can’t find a vehicle now days with the kind of performance that car had in it’s time in comparison to today’s cars in that price range for I think it was 25grand that today would not get you a Honda without nowhere near the performance

  • @jonathanolsen7254
    @jonathanolsen7254 3 роки тому

    Both cars say a statement this is the U.S.A.

  • @m.pietro9087
    @m.pietro9087 3 роки тому +4

    Just as a suggestion, regarding the price you should not say the cost “today”. I think it should be mentioned like in 2021. You keep in mind your videos is going to be seen for years.

    • @robertmetzger1753
      @robertmetzger1753 3 роки тому +4

      SHAD AP !!

    • @dhart8451
      @dhart8451 3 роки тому +1

      All the person has to do is look when the video was posted. Too hard to do ???

    • @m.pietro9087
      @m.pietro9087 3 роки тому

      @@dhart8451 pretty easy to do. It would be more accurate though.

    • @theangrydragon182
      @theangrydragon182 3 роки тому +1

      @@m.pietro9087 And you're probably the reason he has completely distanced himself from this channel.

    • @robb1165
      @robb1165 3 роки тому +1

      Figuring it was just generic inflation numbers. For those prices all you would get are the bottom end cars needing a total restoration. If you could even find either of those models in poor condition.

  • @christopherjackson2690
    @christopherjackson2690 3 роки тому

    ICH SEETH IT LOOK LIKE GTO WENT AHED OF THAT OLDS ACROSS FINISH LINE:
    GTO SEEM TO CATCH UP IN CLOSE RACE SOON AFTER STARTING LINE:

  • @karlsracing8422
    @karlsracing8422 3 роки тому +1

    Yes! H/O !

  • @waynetraube4853
    @waynetraube4853 10 місяців тому

    If it would’ve been a 421 it would’ve won.

  • @AaBb-zj2ld
    @AaBb-zj2ld 3 роки тому

    just not the same without the funny stuff.

  • @lunchsack6861
    @lunchsack6861 3 роки тому +2

    Looks like a bunch of Pontiac crybabies in the comments. Nothing unexpected there.

  • @gunguru7020
    @gunguru7020 3 роки тому

    Hope COVID didn't get ya

  • @xelphinx
    @xelphinx Рік тому

    . huh .

  • @kenriccorbett5369
    @kenriccorbett5369 3 роки тому +2

    Lol the gto won LOL