Crimewatch UK February 1989
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- Sue Cook and Nick Ross present. Cases include an abduction in Derby, the murder of Lorraine Benson in South London and a Jewellery shop raid in Northampton carried out by a distinctive bike that was stolen in Norfolk.
Sorry for the missing titles.
Thank you redcard74, you never let us Crimewatcher’s down.
I love our little Crimewatch family, seeing the same people pop up every evening.
Hey everyone!! 👋🕵🏻♀️
Evening all
Couldn’t agree more - some great discussion and always civil which can’t always be said for the comments on YT videos.
I have no idea what we are gonna do when there are no more 😩😩
Dean Mobley start a rewatch from the beginning!
Absolutely, rewatch them all again, and again. The Crimewatch gang will never end! 🙂
Lorraine Benson did everything right bless her. It's never wrong place, wrong time. It's right place, right time and nobody has got the right to touch you. RIP Lorraine
Maybe David Malchuly? One of the railway killers
Thats why they call them crimes
@@Purewood357 possibly him. Although armed wasn't usually his style (although I wouldn't put it past him) Mulcahy was taller as well I think?
Amatuer ,lol
@@Purewood357John Dunne killed her
I’m watching this in December 2019 on the election night… Needed some light relief so turn to crime watch… It’s great program thank you for sharing it with us
Elections are also crimewatch in a different way 🤣
Order order
Nick Ross should have ended last year's election. The Tories may have an 80-seat majority but please don't have nightmares, do sleep well!
And?
This has aged like fine wine
Absolutely excellent all of these are. Goldmine for research and I have already given you a shoutout on the podcast for your efforts
Lorraine Benson's killer was John Dunne, who was 19 at the time, and already convicted of the rape of a mother whom he battered with an iron. He served three years for that as young offender before attacking Lorraine. Police matched DNA from bite marks on Lorraine's arm. Dunne was sentenced to life but I found an article that a parole hearing was planned in 2005 to move him to an open prison age 47. I cannot find the outcome to this but Lorraine's father Michael protested stating, 'The police described Dunne as ''clever and devious.'' When he was arrested for Lorraine’s murder his reaction was, ‘'Oh, back to those four square walls again, '' then he smiled. I remember every minute of the days after my daughter’s murder. I was told Dunne would sit through days of questioning like butter wouldn’t melt, he is downright evil.'
19-Dec-20 today - I remember Lorraine every year. I am SO sorry for your loss. I didn't know Lorraine but would have worked with her and I lived close by to that alley. Colleagues and my cousin knew her.
It really bothered a lot of us. My neighbour's young lad cycled through the alley in the morning (to his paper 'round) and was very deeply traumatised when he later learned about what happened. A few years before, we had a murder in Cambridge Road, a bit further along from the allotments, opposite Cambridge Close. I witnessed that: it was murder, not manslaughter, no question. The murderer was Dean Harris. He received only six years for that murder. It's all just depressing. If you google "Dean Harris murder", you find his namesake's killing of a child. Words just escape me.
In principle, I oppose capital punishment. But every time I hear John Dunne's name and think of Rachel Nickell and Richard Baker's murders, amongst so very many, I think these specimens should simply be terminated. Just get rid of the rubbish. At the VERY, ABSOLUTE, least, "life" should mean life imprisonment. We've not had a single government who've meant it when they claim they'll get tough on crime.
It destroyed her dad mick
Sounds like he was a full on psychopath
Thanks for the info Mate😉👍
@@trebor9711 I've seen it on a Netflix series. John Dunne had a heavy cold at the time and they had a DNA profile from the snot rag he left at the scene
Redcard74 you are a legend. Look forward to my crimewatch fix every night. It’s like being 5 all over again!!
you should have been in bed! :)
Lol called him a tramp . I love old crimewatch
The guy in the first clip is my fav criminal, a comedy genius. “Yeah it looks alright, I’ll give you the full amount”. “There are a few things I should let you know about”. “It’s ok, I only need it for one job” 😆
Brilliant. Made me chuckle, as well.
He’s an actor that read it from a script nothing genius about him
@@Thenorthsaceok troll
Wonder if they caught him
Lorraine was my cousin, my father was selfish and ignorant as he couldn't get thru his head why his brother mick was so bad from then on, and he felt mick should just get over it, but shows the difference between brothers , remember all the camera crews at the funeral, then confused when we got back to micks afterwards and he was in the kitchen talking to people but was on the tele at the same time, i was 7 years old, i feel this is why i had so much 'respect women' while i was growing up,
Thanku redcard for these Gems .. i look forward every evening to ur up loads of crime watch...
Evening crime watchers 😊😊
22:35 That detective has a REALLY strange quality to his voice; he's like a creepy version of John Le Mesurier...
Camp
Thank you. I've never seen any of this one before - or any of the 1989 episodes, I think.
I may have seen them when they were originally transmitted, but if I did I can't remember any of these cases from 1989 thus far. Same with 1990, 1991 & 1992.
I thought that from May ‘88 until deep into the 90s I hadn’t missed an episode but I don’t have any memory of anything from this episode or the January one. I definitely remember the Michael Fahy reconstruction which is coming up later in ‘89.
Evening Crimewatchers! I'm still playing catch up (I like to watch them in order), so should get to this one tomorrow night. Redcard pulls it out of the bag again, and never lets us down :)
Wow, that would be bank robber is totally inept-did he seriously think a bank could get all the money together in four minutes & dump it in a running car? Did he honestly not think to kidnap him & her in the night? Problem is he was obviously working on his own-there was no gunman up the lane, no accomplices & he had no brains.
I reckon you know who did it. 0800 811 8055
She should not have opened the door. She was not expecting anyone, so don't let him in.
I like the way Sue said "and THAT tramp" in the Benson case even though that person was probably not one
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Because people with houses that have heating in them stand outside next to fires all the time don’t they 👍
At 11.10 Nick says they caught a couple who stole £65,000 cos it was reported by a woman who saw them on Crimewatch. This crime may never have been solved otherwise. Another reason why it should not have been discontinued. I realise figures were only a quarter of the originals, but it still served a purpose.
it ought to be a public service like the police. it would pay for itself.
It's been back on in the mornings now for many years but it's very different because crime is very different now. The official Office of National Statistics (ONS) 2023 stats showed that crime was actually at its lowest ever levels. Violent crime in particular has really declined since its peak in 1995 and the crime that there is has tended to move online - meaning that witness appeals like Crimewatch are not of much use. So many of the crimes featured in these 1980s Crimewatch episodes either don't really happen today (like the securicor hold ups, or child abductions off the street) or would be solved very quickly and easily these days with things like CCTV, DNA and mobile phone records.
Thanks Redcard!
Evening all!
“We’d certainly like to eliminate her yes”
Translation:we’d certainly like to arrest and interrogate her yes
Yeah, as they say now, 'we believe this man may have vital information...'
Thanks again this is superb and great to watch in fantastic q .
People were still smoking cigarettes on trains in 1989! 😯
Sadly yes - I was a student about nine years later and travelled by train from Edinburgh to Truro. Due to some administrative arse-up my reserved seat was in the smoking carriage and the train was standing room only. I felt I’ll for days with all the cigarettes I passively smokes during that eight hours or so.
AAron Thom Just did a bit of research (as I’m a sad sack) and smoking on trains wasn’t banned until 2005. However it was banned on tube trains in 1987 following the Kings Cross disaster.
Helen Compton That's shocking!
Yes To think The Health Act 2006 Royal assent was July 19 2006 which banned smoking in public places came into affect Chapter 1 - Smoke-free premises, places and vehicles in Scotland on March 26 2007 in Northern Ireland on April 30 2007. Wales on April 2 2007 and England July 1 2007. And October 1 2007 Chapter 2 - Age of sale for tobacco etc Section 13 granted the Secretary of State the power to increase the age for purchasing tobacco from 16 to 18, which came into force on 1 October 2007. And a new legislation came into effect From 1 October 2015, the new legislation in England and Wales makes it illegal to smoke in a vehicle carrying someone who is under 18. It is now also against the law for a driver not to stop someone smoking in these circumstances. The fine for both offences is £50. How times have rightly changed.
haha, funny; and on aeroplanes, as I well recall. Smoking ban came in well into the 2000s, did it not ?
By the thumbnail, i was almost expecting an episode of "One foot in the grave"
Mark Bartlett . 😂😂😂
I don’t believe it
or Midsomer Murders! lol
@@BossySwan margret killed victor 😮😮😮
Such a shame that George didn’t wait for Lorraine to make her phone call and then either walk with her or wait with her for her friend to meet her. Still hindsight is a wonderful thing.
It was a “friend” that murdered her
@@Thenorthsaceno troll, it wasn't. It was a 19 year old who'd recently been released from a young offender's institute for a previous rape.
The gravesend quarry rape/attempted murder was committed by the bloke who went on to kill clare tiltman in 1993
Colin Ash Smith.
Could the attempted bank robber be an early attempt by Michael Sams who went on to kidnap the estate agent Stephanie Slater?. Seems to be similar in the fact both a car and a motorbike were used in the crime. Also he told the police when caught he was not working alone but refused to name the other man when in fact he was working alone. He also phoned the police and Stephanie's parents a number of times with his ransom demands . This is how he was eventually caught when i think it was his ex wife phoned in after a recording of his voice was played on crimewatch and she recognized it.
I think he had a definite limp. This wasn't mentioned on his description.
Buffalo Stance.
stfitness old-skool banger!
So don’t. You get fresh with me!
Gigalo
I want to know if Sarah went out with him 🤷♂️
I imagine he didn't stick around too long after Lorraine was murdered.
And if Sarah (or "Sarah" - that name could be being assumed for any number of reasons) _did_ hear of the murder, I wouldn't be surprised if she put two and two together, and declined the offer for obvious reasons.
Yeah I'm almost certain she did, after all women just love being approached & followed down an empty street late at night by some random man......
3:20 a giant in the background
This made me laugh way too much 😂😂
BFG on his way to McDonald’s
Haha, well spotted!
Giants were very common in the 80s but have declined in population in recent years. 🇬🇧👍
Lorraine Benson case such a sad situation lots of people seeing strange stuff and not helping :( wonder if she could have been saved ..
Its strange to me because if he was harassing her she could have banged on a door or shouted at passing traffic to gain attention. May be she knew him
Kirsty Moore if she’d done that it would only have angered him and possibly made him more violent.
Sarah Sea I’m wondering if the girlfriend/ wife of the guy she wanted to come and meet her hired someone to kill her? In a fit of rage and jealousy? Xx
Katie McDevitt you should write books for a living!! 🙂🙂
Kate McDevitt That was Peter’s mother.
Nick always keeps telling us the crimes are 'unusual'. Rapes, abductions, murders etc - yeah! This programme is full of such crimes, and half of them are still unsolved thirty years later ............
They were the worse ones all brought together from months of investigation that was going no where so they turn to crimewatch for help… if you’re such an expert why don’t you solve them sherlock.
@@Thenorthsace Yes, I know they were crimes the police needed extra help with. The point is: EVERY MONTH there were crimes they couldn't solve, enough to fill a programme, for YEARS!!!!!! NOT SO RARE, IS IT?????
Britain had the highest level of violent crime in Europe in the 1980s. Much more violent era than people care to remember. Still, worth remembering that the population was over 50 million back then, so still pretty rare.
Good old Derby in the first crime. Alvaston has changed alot since 1989. The natwest bank isn't in Alvaston anymore. Think it's still a bank but definitely not Natwest.
I have fond memories of Alvaston, not least because it's the only British town to have been mentioned in the title of a Glen Campbell song. Or was that Ulverston?
ua-cam.com/video/ZTbTHlTmDX8/v-deo.html
Oh, well - it was close :-)
and banks dont have any money
Good seeing good old Derby. Miss those days.
That robbery was so amateur. No wonder he got nothing 😂 😂
Thank you thank you thank you Xx
Bedford Van the classic getaway vehicle for most of these crimes!
I loved watching Crimewatch as a kid. I always thought Aladinns Cave was a waste of time. However, times change
I hated aladdins cave. Loved Crimewatch as a kid, we'd all talk about it next day at school. Crimewatch solved was quality too, Rough Justice as well.
It's not so much the crimes which at paramount, I do find myself googling if they've been caught! Stepping back in time, the clobber, cars, peoples attitude plus the bizzies were old school then. The world's changed so quickly, at least the most horrific crimes can be solved now through DNA, one positive.
Paul Would thhtth.How d'you know!😉
ha ha yeah I do the googling as well. And like you I love seeing the old footage of how everything used to look.
Indeed. If you're a decent soul...we can live our lives and should so happily, we only get one, I'm not giving mine up through fear, I'm not scared, I'm scared of what will happen in future generations. Needs to be stopped, NOW!
Thanks again!
Am I imagining it or was the actress who played Lorraine Benson in Grange Hill?
16:29 the man who appears at this point is very creepy.
Everyone was so much more alert to their surroundings even in the 90s! People seem to remember people walking past and all sorts helping solve crimes on these older shows with cracking descriptions and details, now days if you ain’t got a ring door bell people can’t remember seeing anything, everyone is so busy with their minds full I guess relying on technology
Don't think that's true at all. Eye witness accounts have always been absolutely notorious for being wrong.
Half the country now walks around the big cities with music playing in their ears.
It has to be said though that eye witness accounts have always been notoriously unreliable. Lots of evidence over the years about how badly people remember things. It's therefore a million times better that so many things can be caught on camera, or on mobile phones rather than eye witness.
Trouble is they might think your a interfering person but best to check!
Oh George why did you leave Lorraine alone at that time of night?
Thanks a lot !!
RedCard, andy have you Got any CrImewatCh UK from SeP, OCt 2002?
Someone gave a name and address for David Evans. Wouldn’t be David Evans would it?? 🤣🤣
10:41 it’s the farmer off Babe
What a criminal mastermind that armed bank robber is, he wore a mask during the robbery, but 30 mins earlier walked into a business & took their letter headed paper for his robbery note, all on camera. We won't need Sherlock Holmes for this case...
A substantial reward, but we are keeping the amount a secret.
That armed robber was a simpleton.
There's another video on UA-cam talking to a gangster from that time. He said by the late 80s, only idiots tended to do armed robbery like that. The security was starting to get tighter and other gangsters realised they could make much more money from drugs.
Around 3:45 it says the news on wed 30th nov.. the 30th nov 1989 was on a thursday
Err, the reconstruction and the crime happened on Wednesday 30th November 1988! 🙄
Does anyone know the name of the song at 2 46
Think it's INXS - need you tonight
4mins is he for real
It's better than 1 minute 😂
I must say that robber was a real amateur who had absolutely no idea of what to do... Luckily Pauline got out.
He didn't have a clue what he was doing. 🇬🇧👍
What bike was that
Right on cue.
20:25, this is a really attentive guy; most English people are not like him!
jewel robbery at the end was a bit strange. who goes to a house in the middle of nowhere to steal a bike. sounds like someone is lying.
Someone local? Has to be, you don't just stumble across a motorbike in a conservatory on a quiet lane. His mate?
39:04 sorry i laughed "this passer-by try to have a go at them" ???!! Wot,running in that shirt...?
That two hundred thousand is four hundred and forty two thousand now. 🇬🇧👍
People were extremely evil back in the 80’s
can anyone find the crimwatch reconstution of the lin and megan murders
8:09 Almost looks like Christopher Strauli.
6:49 is it me or dose he remind you of mr bean a bit.
He didn't do much plumbing
He cleared her out of her house didn't he...
Morning all 👋, who’s up for making a WhatsApp group for crime watch?
Call the group ‘Don’t Have Nightmares’
Did this go ahead??
Gay.
Proper sad 🤣🤣🤣
@@nathaniliescu4597 You are, indeed, VERY gay.
My partner will not watch these on her own 😁
Just in time thanks
lmao the jewellers in Northampton is still there and still gets robbed... think the most recent one happened last year. good video
Think this has to be the most memorable one! www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1356155/Supergran-Ann-Timson-foiled-armed-gang-handbag-says-shes-just-mad.html
brilliant :)
lin and megan Russell murders
Why don't they refer to the man as a homless guy instead of a tramp
Because homelessness isn't Intrinsically linked with being a rough sleeper.
Being "homeless" can apply to those staying in shelters or temporary accommodation.
A "tramp" is somebody with only the streets as their place of residence.
Tramps as a term are acknowledged as being in a difficult place in life, and are therefore given less reason to be disturbed for merely sleeping on the street when they can't avoid the need.
They are given status, whereas "homeless " people are given none.
Lorraine Benson, as well as the actress playing her, looked far older than 22.
Here is a recent article talking to her parents, in one of the photos/ she looks like an old granny.
www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5845757/parents-blast-decision-to-free-taxi-rapist-jon-worboys-after-their-daughter-was-sexually-assaulted-and-murdered-by-convicted-teen-rapist
It'll be the clothes of the time. A lot of people looked older than they actually were then
@@dominewimbury2039 not just the clothes tho isit... she looks much older in her face...
Smoking and drinking alcohol, all I have to say
@@aaronmonette7849 i smoke and drink now and then i’m in my 30s and look like i’m 20 so yeah you’re wrong
With Lorriane Benson’s murder it did seem strange she wanted that guy to meet her? ( a part from safety) and why was she going to see him off at the airport the next day? But it’s very sad for her loved ones even though the culprit was eventually caught rip Xx
She was only 22... Still really young and a bit immature at that age. I know I was.
@@weaponofmassconstruction1940 Yeah just didn’t understand why she was going to see that guy off? Xx
@@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt I guess in those days, such long distance travel was unusual. Who knows?
Are you deaf ? It stated she was going to the airport to see a friend off that was going to AUS
@@Thenorthsace keep ur knickers on love 😂
February 89 now
I know who that Jeff is … he’s called Jeff.
24:35 the tramp
A stolen motorcycle made Crimewatch?
Because it was used in the armed robbery later
Good motor
Mo Slater from eastenders 😁
33:15 Don't those religious types take a vow of poverty, no? 🤔
I imagine they did if they joined before October 1958.
John Paul II really ruined the Catholic church altogether.
Local men
Lottie?
13.12 we had one at our school lol
Did they ever catch the bank robbers / kidnappers ?
Bob is a horrible actor.
What comedy genious you coudnt make it up lol
Did they ever catch Lorraine Benson's killer?
yep ..www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/devastated-dad-murdered-photographer-warns-8528418
Psycho18C Yes, John Dunne was sentenced to life in April 1989. He served 3 years in a treatment centre prior to murdering Lorraine for the rape of another woman. He became eligible for parole in 2006 but still remains in prison (but was moved to an open prison in 2017).
Helen Compton Bad idea moving him to an open prison. He is still a danger to people.
Psycho18C He is still in prison at the moment but I believe the move to an open prison is to ‘prepare him for life outside’. Whether parole will ever be granted remains to be seen.
Not sure if you saw my post above but her parents still have her pet tortoise, George (or at least they did as of two years ago).
The first robbery of the Building Society gave a good picture of the thief.We were given his description with everything except his ethnicity.Now he looks mixed race on the video ,but are we supposed to infer that for ourselves or just rely on his dimensions which fit about one hundred thousand men,white ,black and all skin colour.Is it against the law to point out an alleged thief's obvious ethnicity only when the thief is white,which seems to be always pointed out!
I don't mean to speak ill of the dead but Lorraine was one rough looking 22 year old. Yikes
It was common for British women in the 80s to look older than they actually were, with short hair and heavy makeup
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