There are a few things I need to address in this video. First, what I was attempting to illustrate about “The Ugly Truth” of modern fashion trends is that simply under the current model there is no such thing as enough. I also think that a lot of people use fashion to feel as though they are better than others and to act snobby. This is also a very ugly truth of the matter in my opinion. Last, my captions thought I said ‘fashion nymph’ and ‘johns enthusiast’ haha kind a funny to type that out. I meant ‘Fashion mf’ and Jawnz enthusiast’ which are two terms used as slang to describe someone who is just really into fashion. I am curious to see what everyone thinks of this video.
I agree with the idea tbh that people use fashion to feel better than others. As u said, back in the day, the rich were the ones who dressed well/participate in fashion and to some extent that is still going on since better quality garments are not affordable to the majority of people.
With regards to building a unique style, the problem is that we are too focused on aesthetics and on fitting inside a certain "box" of aesthetic that we get caught up within a particular niche, instead of being able to piece together parts of different aesthetics in the unique puzzle that represents each unique character. You are fed with products and well put outfits so much, that you try to look like the best stylist of that particular aesthetic, not like yourself
honestly my whole rule for getting dressed everyday is what makes ME special, whats makes ME different. why am I special?? why am I different?? the rzn we stand out is bc we dress to set ourselves apart. so, next time you get dressed remember what makes u different from the rest.
feels like today's the first time you see so many people dressed identically and yet each believes he/she's wearing something groundbreaking and unique
Yup, and they are brainwashed into thinking they like it, my problem is with adidas sambas, i can swear that 90% of these people don‘t even like it, and thats what bothers me the most, you can see its not „their style“…nevermind, i‘ll stick to my white air forces 😅
i think that the ugly truth is that with trends moving so fast and having such short lifetimes, people who genuinely enjoy some trends will have nowhere to go. Be it parachute pants or ties, people will be accused of copying trends when an item is in style but once these trends fall out, they will be seen as "out of style" and "not with the times". Basically, I'm saying that no matter if you wear "trendy" or "not trendy" clothing, you will still be perceived negatively by many, just in different ways.
I often find the best dressed folks don’t care what people think so whatever they put on, they pull off..being comfortable with yourself is the ultimate swag.
the worst feeling is when the style i’ve loved for years becomes popular.. silly i knowww but the problem is people are now gonna think i am ‘untrendy’ and ‘behind the times’ when in reality im just wearing what i like
for me the worst was when all the clothes i like are lacking,,, i feel like my wardrobe is gone and boring because i cant find good variation in mainstram fashion anymore. i feel like i have nothing else to buy and wear, and i cant find the same affordability in clothes i like anymore if id want to buy new. i feel like there are no more clothes for me in shops anymore and i feel like that sucks 🥲
I get this feeling too. I'm Gen X and I've reverted back to what my younger self thought was the coolest stuff to wear/be seen in. Basically Chuck Taylors, old DM's, thrifted finds, DIY jackets and punk band tees. I'm an older woman and now have the privilege of mostly being invisible, so I dress to please my college-age punk kid self and ignore trends. :)
when i hear the idea of "finding your style" like there's an end goal, i don't think that can ever be the case. as you grow and change your idea of your style changes with you. the ugly truth is that companies will take advantage of that. but the beautiful truth is that life will be filled with new ways to express yourself thru your fashion
I completely agree. A few years ago I had a sweater vest phase and it’s what made me happy to wear at the time. Now I realized that I grew out of sweater vests and I donated them since I’m not going to wear them anymore. I feel like some people put too much emphasis on ‘finding your style’ when there probably isn’t going to be one style that we’ll fit into for the rest of our lives. As we get older, our tastes and what we want in the clothes we wear will change. That’s not a bad thing, just means we’re changing as we get older.
Yeah I agree, for me I try really hard to ignore micro trends and focus on the bigger overall picture. I try to stick to things that I actually really like in a vacuum without factoring in the current thing on social media. I also think it's important to ask whether something will age well. I.e. "should I buy 10 pairs of vintage t shirts?" Probably not unless that's genuinely what you like and like to wear
Fashion has always been a game of “how dare these people dress in MY niche trend that makes me more unique and therefore superior to them? I’m gonna start dressing in a new way.” We as consumers have enabled this at every socioeconomic level. I think it’s happening faster now because trends move into the mainstream rather quickly because of social media. Fashions early adopters (and snobs) rely on the exclusivity of the trend they dress in, so they need to cycle through more rapidly to set themselves apart.
to build on the niche trend thing, it's as though people who want to dress uniquely use the trend cycle as a crutch instead of putting in the effort to cultivate a personal style that reflects them and their tastes. kinda like a symptom of instant gratification
Wearing what you like and what fits you well will always be better than trends! But mixing in something “of the moment” is always a nice accent to your personal style.
The big issue I believe is that too many people want to look a certain way in order to feel validated. Instead of branching out and doing their own thing people just copy what the most influential people are doing.
I find it weird because I live in a huge city [Sydney] yet I rarely to NEVER actually see anyone wearing things that are "viral trendy" and online it's only a handful of people actually wearing them. [for specific items, things like loafers and sweater vests are always going to be around]. all of this stuff is very online-only
I agree though, ppl think what they see online is trendy or not trendy even though you see very few ppl wearing it irl. Which probably is why trend cycles go so fast now. Things are ”out” before ppl irl even have time to wear them
I live in NY and you are 💯💯💯🤌🏽 right!!!! I never see people even at the mall buying or wearing the clothes I see online! I literally get stared at for dressing “fashionable” AT THE MALL😂 I’m like I got these clothes from HERE guys not MARS!
@@DemureDarlingslol agreed. Everywhere I go I get a lot of attention for dressing remotely cute (sometimes even low key out of style things lol). I think the real world is a lot less fashionable than people think it is
i feel like today so many people are hyper fixated on aesthetics and looking like a “walking” aesthetic. i was a culprit of this, i tried to fit into one aesthetic or the next cool or popular looking one and i was miserable because i felt like i couldn’t find clothes that really expressed all of me. Then i realized that i’m an individual, one style of clothing wouldn’t work because my personality was too big for that. so i started mixing styles and genres that defined my identity. i feel like a log of people don’t realize that though, and that’s why trends move so fast
I think one big reason trends are so consumed nowadays is because they are promoted as "jump on this train before others do". They are made to seem like these things are unique and new, but eventually they just become oversaturated and we get "bored" of the trend, leading to overconsumption. Fashion enthusiasts constantly wanting to be "unique" is what usually drives these trends forward... I think the correct way to look at fashion isn't to "be unique", but more so take whatever you like personally, regardless of popularity.
I was actually speaking to a friend about this several weeks ago. We both agreed that fashion trends are moving extremely fast as well. We have been into fashion for years ourselves and have been settling into one of the "trends" we found best for ourselves years ago while building up on it instead of hopping from trend to trend so quickly. We find the current trend pace entertaining yet tiring.
I honestly use trends to find new cool things I might like. This year I didn’t like any of the actual clothes such as the vampcore or the ironic tees but I loved the footwear such as sambas and salomon a lot. I also like that bell bottoms came back but that’s not really a trend
@@zerois2801 I don't hate the style but it think it takes way from what its intended for and dumbs down styles made by other designers such as rick owens, old raf simons, and the punk fashion scene like undercover and number nine.
The most important thing right now is not getting caught up in one style/trend. I think we can all profit off this overflow of fashion trends going on right now, picking things up from trends we like and leave the stuff we don't, without getting influenced too much by the "public consensus" on a style aka whatever is trending on tiktok, and making it work in our own wardrobe
I know you said that saying “it’s tik tok” is a cop out but i definitely think it is. Style TikTokers have a direct financial incentive to lean into new style trends, trends that won’t last, and absurdist fashion. They’re paid by fast fashion companies to essentially be their mouth pieces and continue pushing new and changing trends. They also push more flashy and crazy fashion that clearly isn’t timeless or going to last in an effort to get more views. Style isn’t driven by individualism anymore. It’s driven by $ and status to fit in with influencers who were told by companies what they want to be trendy
This video is amazing (I even sent it to my anthropology professor). I think the ugly truth about fashion trends is that they will always prioritize certain groups of individuals - almost always skinny and rich people -, like the rise of y2k recently in fashion shows. Also, the fact that we, as social human beings, are always trying to fit in a group even when we tell we're not, so we try so hard to fit in a certain aesthetic or niche or whatever, and that ""demands"" buying new things because you are never satisfied with the way you look, because you are constantly bombarded with new items or new micro trends within the niche.
People don’t like to be realistic anymore and don’t think about their wardrobe in a daily wear sense. Either they like to have more and more or they don’t think about what they truly like to wear/what’s realistic for them to wear on a daily basis. Ty drew for the content very informative 😎
I recently got into fashion maybe last year and i’ve been experimenting with lots of clothes and finally finding my style but left with lots of clothes i don’t wear anymore. Although going to donate them to charity shops i still feel somewhat guilty of my waste, “the bigger picture” section of the video made me feel less guilty and more comfortable with my fashion journey. Great and informative video
It makes so much sense that you and Laini are friends. I love watching both of your channels!! For fav animated movie, it would have to be "Up" it's such a classic.
I barely got into fashion in the beginning of 2021. Still learning and understanding of the concept of fashion. How I see it as the “bad” is the amount of trends come and go like shoooo. For me it’s way to much to try to catch up, but shoutout to anyone that can catch up more power to yall. 👏🏾👏🏾 Also it can be over saturated. Ugly truth is no matter what style you have on, be happy about it. Don’t need to get approval or some sort of recognition in front of you, let it happen on its own and own it like a runway. Also if someone hates on your style is because they don’t want to see you smile and enjoy what you wear they’re called haters for a reason.
My problem with the fashion industry is just my problem with consumerism overall which is just that we engage in it with such disregard for the process or the importance of accumulating or procuring new goods. We are so numb to receiving new things that we cycle through trends monthly giving old clothes to charity, selling them or letting them sit in our closet. We’re filling up our homes with things that don’t matter to us. I realised I have so many clothes that mean nothing to me, I started to forget my sense of personal style (which I was desperately trying to buy. Then when each new item came it felt like wasn’t enough, didn’t capture me enough), I had so much stuff that felt like it wasn’t how I wanted to dress. I considered how I wanted to dress too expensive and inaccessible. Actually the amount I was spending on trendy items here and there could add up to one meaningful, lasting, well made and ethically sourced piece every two months or so. The hardest for me is seeing what others are wearing and wanting to participate in trends. Feeling left behind. I’m enjoying using the clothes I have and saving up each month to buy an item on my wishlist. I finally bought a hysteric glamour jumper a few months ago on my wishlist at a good price and it was really rewarding. I forgot that clothes used to be bought as presents or as a treat. I haven’t bought anything in a few months and Im looking forward to my next purchase, and im also enjoying wanting things, not buying them straight away, and then accepting it’s ok not to have them. I will never have every item I want and I can’t try to solve that by buying lots of fast fashion items to fill the void. It’s extremely hard and unknown to us but I think more people are coming around to it. really enjoyed this video :)
It’s almost like fashion is an art and art is subjective 🤔. Great video! So so tired of everyone trying to be different. I like what I like and dress accordingly. The things I like used to be and kinda still are seen as weird. It’s only a matter of time before they’re a new microtrend. I’ve accepted it.
i really appreciate the video! As a matter of fact, i’ve been thinking about buying a whole expensive outfit that i thought might be “trendy and fashionable” lately but your words made me reconsider my purchase. thank u!
To me maybe the ugly would be that the creative people rarely get the recognition they deserve. It's usually big brands stealing indie designers' projects, celebrities bringing niche trends to wider audience being credited for coming up with new things, etc. The flip side of the turbocharged speed of trends is that we're forced to curate our own outlook. I honestly love that, this gives me more creative freedom than I had 20 years ago in junior high. And the favorite animated movie? My childhood classics: Mulan, Lion King, Pocahontas. Haven't watched them in awhile, maybe I will :) this starts to be my favorite fashion YT channel, I love fashion videoessays/commentaries and yours are especially good. Chef's kiss 👌
For me Ratatouille is in another level of animated movies, it's like top tear. I must have watched it more than 10 times already and I enjoy every second of the movie, it just makes me happy idk exactly why, but I love it
For a very long time, I was not interested in fashion. I thought fashion was all about consumption and feeling uncomfortable to be pretty (that tends to be expected for women). Now, I feel very interested. I'm learning silhouettes that I like, fabrics that work for weather where I live, colors that are good for my skin, and ways to balance feminity and masculinity. My goal is to have a capsule wardrobe in the future, once I've learned enough.
You’re absolutely right about this topic. There is too many trends and too much clothing being produced. We clearly don’t need that much clothes. I mean...I have ten sneakers four dress shoes and a lot of socks. And I wear my favourite sneakers 98% of the time.
Also, the production of clothes ramped up because of social media, in my opinion. Because people started seeing themselves more, they became more self-conscious. And we broke the rule of comparing ourselves to other people. With that, people started consuming more for the 👍s. And fashion brands, particularly fast-fashion brands, met and meet our shallow demands.
I think personal style comes from rewearing clothes and making them pieces that are characteristic for oneself! I think its scary that people feel the constant need to hop onto every trend and overconsume. I hope that in the future the majority of people will find out which trends they truly like and try to be more conscious about their consumer decisions. That doesnt mean no one should ever buy or try out a new style or trend, but it means investing in staples and consciously thinking about the wear they would get out of that item and how to corporate it into their wardrobe :)
Trends got me spending money pretty blind on most of the time low quality/un-styleable pieces that did not fit my body well. But in doing so made me actually pay attention to fashion because I asked myself why did these things not look as good on me, and slowly began learning about body types and aesthetics and eventually used all that to developed my own personal style. Which is something that will look great on you and remain looking great on you whether on trend or off trend, expresses yourself confidently, and won't bend to any influences beside your own. (Funny how refusing the influence of trends will actually make you stand out and be memorable too) A lot of people are still in the earlier phase of discovery and it's much easier to copy what looks good on other people or the newest and the hottest rather than experiment themselves. So even if they do look everyday or played out it's very understandable since most people just wanna go outside looking put together rather than spending all this time developing their own personal expression.
Fashion has never been in a better place than rn, it's just so accessible to all price points. I love the focus on versatility among wardrobes and how there's not just one 'aesthetic'. The rise of vintage/pre owned pieces is also great to see. #PVV the OG Pokémon movie all day
Hyper-consumerism is really the end goal of these companies and why we are going through trends so fast and purchasing so many things we don't need. There's a reason advertising spots cost A LOT of money now, why Netflix is incorporating ads into their streaming service, and why UA-cam is only going to keep adding more ads to every video. (we'll long for the day of just two skippable ads very soon). Also part of the reason that even though cost of living has gone up, people aren't cutting back as much as predicted and we are still spending on luxury products. I've made a concentrated effort to only buy versatile basic articles of clothing lately if I am going to make a clothing purchase. I've dabbled in a few trends such as New Balance, but everything else I take a look, appreciate the look, and then just move on. It doesn't make sense to try and keep up with every new trend because as soon as you get that item it'll be old news by the end of the year, or sometimes by the end of the month. #pvv - Shrek 2 is the most hilarious movie and I still like to watch it sometimes lol. Besides that, Finding Nemo, Land Before Time, Iron Giant are all classics for me. On the more grownup sideI loved Princess Mononoke which I randomly saw on streaming recently.
Working a bit in the e-commerce business, the the question I always think about even when I saw a lot of garments a day. Where are peoples authenticity? An « individual » is something that can subjectivity be viewed in a way of that one person dressing but if you look at those micro trend communities damn near everybody dresses in codes. Attitude towards hyper expressionism or trying to be different for no reason makes no sense because at the end of the day it’s just clothes. It’s the impact that makes the impression on people. What you represent and what truth you want to show to the world. Not to conform into something your not.
The ugly true: ‘trends’ are not ‘styles’; trends will usually rip/remix from a previous era’s trend that was most likely controversial or polarizing in some form… where styles signify you’re apart of a certain group, walk the walk, play the part, etc. What happens through social media or ‘Fashion MFs’ and others, is a virtual audience to the spectacle but at a rapid rate due to expected short form content; quickly commodifying a signifier, alienating it from its original source for the sake of monetizing and marketing a personal brand that solely signifies over consumption masked as having the lead on ‘cool’ or ‘unique’ in hopes of garnering a true audience to rinse and repeat and feed the hungry ghost of validation and self indulgence. Great video, fun to watch! 😄
Unrelated but I’ve been a fan for more than a year now and also seeing your style progression is crazy. your editing has become much more refine and I’m really liking it. Intro was rlly good.
Really fascinating video Drew. I think fashion as a whole is in a weird space. While I like your point about there just being more references to choose from. I am worried that with trends moving so fast that people will be forced to resort to consuming more and more
Honestly if you just wear what you like, the trends will just find their way back to you lol. I've always liked sambas and 2 years ago I would buy them at the adidas outlet for $30. Now they're apparently trending and impossible to find. There's no winning
I think the breakdown of the stigma and uniformity present in clothing through previous generations along with social media and the rise in the general wealth of households has allowed this new era of consumer culture to arise within the new generations…. Opposed to previous generations diversity In style is praised instead of looked down upon and ideas can spread rapidly through social media.
No need to apologise Drew for spreading the truth, Drew you do you! Sometimes telling people the truth for the greater good is another way to spread peace love and positivity. Your delivery was appropriate and tempered. There are too many self conceited people nowadays with objects of status often being the reason why. Bravo.
I think in regards to the speed in which fashion trends blow by every day is in relation to how accessible and quick social media changes. Humanities plight is that no matter how much we have it will never suffice.
I kinda just stopped caring about fashion, I realized in hindsight, clothes really do not matter and people who are so concerned about their clothes and what’s in style all the time tend to be the most miserable people. It’s all just one big dopamine rush of consumerism/materialism. You will never truly be happy buying new clothes all the damn time
It can still be fun, though! I don't care about keeping up with trends and I don't shop nearly as much as I used to, but I do really enjoy talking about fashion and watching videos like this online.
@@paygej8710 I agree. Fashion only makes people miserable when they’re into it for the wrong reasons. I only dress to impress myself and feel good in the mirror, and that’s turned out to be such a healthy thing. My confidence is 10x what it used to be and it’s started a snowball effect of me improving other areas of my life as well.
I don’t think all fashion is that case. Obviously recently there’s been a big boom of that, but fashion is the whole point of some people’s jobs, expression, and outlet.
@@ithinkiwoulddie9196 I disagree to a certain extent, style is more of an expression because style is the way you walk, talk and carry yourself which in short translates to the way you dress. That is the same reason why you can travel to a 3rd world country and see some very unique individuals expressing themselves beyond clothes. Fashion is more or less chasing a trend and has been oversaturated chasing the next best thing. I stopped caring about fashion the moment I started seeing more of the world and realized that it's all pretentious. I just would rather dress normal now and leave fashion for the younger generation
@@mon3ylounge fashion is also a certain way of seeing the world, and also exploring cultures, so no I don’t think all fashion is just “chasing trends”. I also think this way because not all fashion subcultures or styles are trending or even relevant to today. Like cult party kei, it is long forgotten but there is still a small potion of people who love this subculture, and that is not chasing a trend.
I agree with a lot of the points made, especially with the overconsumption. I often find myself interested in another piece after just acquiring a piece, and it hit me that there really is no need for the overconsumption of similar products. If you already have one tee that has a similar graphic to another shirt, the composition of the fit would articulate the same ethos, regardless of the graphic or art found on the shirt. The one area I've started to personally look into more is pieces I don't incorporate or even simply just taking breaks from the entirety of hunting for new pieces. What I've found more enjoyable personally is going out and stumbling across random shops that have vintage wears or jewelry and genuinely one of a kind wears you wouldn't find on tiktok or social media, or on someone's mood board. There is so much opportunity for finding more unique pieces without the aid of a tiktok brand, and it's hard to realize that with the forefront of gen-z being social media influence. And I'm not saying I'm perfect myself, I often still will fall back into the bad habit of continuous searching and looking, but I've realized more and more when you've got enough jawnz, there is no need to keep searching.
Great vid Drew, your final point was a hard one to put into words so don’t worry about the delivery too much. I share your interest surrounding the anthropology of consumers, including myself, and I often find it difficult to not over consume. Love your insight and your positivity in general 😊
Contemporary fashion trends are probably based in human mass psychology: Some kind of complicated combination of wanting to be special (staying on top of trends), not being excluded from the pack (keeping up with some of the trends). All in order to attract potential mates. That would be my guess.
The environmental and human costs that have accompanied the greater democratization of fashion far outweigh amy good that a passing trend could ever provide. It is insane to think that rapid increases in the speed that trends come and go is anything more than a massive misallocation of resources that could have been better spent on food, housing, environmental stewardship, etc
Sorry I’m late on this one Drew, this one was a heater🔥getting philosophical on us. Honestly thanks for being real about not feeling “on” in the explain and being brave and still posting this. I really appreciate your authenticity. #pvv my fav animated movie definitely Ratatouille. That movie is a banger.
7:34 First is, what you already said, overproduction, fast fashion and so on. But I think its also the hate that "fashion-groups" have against each other like hating on their style, the way they look/ dress etc
Sooo true. Enough only feels like enough for a fleeting moment until its not anymore. It’s tiring & costs a small fortune. Sometimes I enjoy it other times Im sick of it & just want it to stop. If only for a few months. Really I just wanna stick it to the fashion gods & wear whatever I want without judgement
One thing that is kinda cool to think about is fashion in 2016/17/18 when people were wearing hypebeast things and just that. They weren't changing their style every week/month
Mulan! Eternally love that film. I feel like I have my set items in my wardrobe. I get the best quality I can and just rotate HEAVILY. I take note of runway trends I like and incorporate them into my style but I don't follow trends SPECIFICALLY for the reasons in this video. I feel like my style is personal, evolves, but is outside trends. Trends, to me, are expensive and wasteful. Thanks for your video, love your artistic choices and review of your effectiveness. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@DrewJoiner Let's get down to business! To defeat! The Huns! Who is that girl I see? Staring straight, back at me. Think of instead! A girl worth fighting for! Dishonour! Dishonour on you! Dishonour on your cow! I love that movie!
As someone who is a Fashion Design student and working in the industry, I've had this constant feeling of too much. It feels like everything is too much, too fast, and too wasteful. Not to mention lux just isn't what it used to be. Price no longer is a signifier of quality so it's like a guessing game on what is a worthy investment which worsens the wastefulness
i think this was all facts man, is the fact that self aggrandizing brings an ego that you shouldn't have in the fashion industry and that's one of the reasons that fashion industry is toxic about i, but Drew that was a dope video man keep it up and i hope everyone is having and amazing day!
Nice vid man, you are one of a few in the space who do these type of video essays which many of us appreciate. You bring a unique perspective and I think you nailed it here. No doubt our world is getting faster in all aspects... Brands are trying to sell us the kool-aid of seasonal fast fashion so it's nice to see someone call out the BS
imo the ugly truth of the fashion industry is that trends haven't really existed for a very long time. The fact we can predict trends in general means that its not us making the decisions and its not the designers either, nothing is water drops making rings if its predetermined. The whole reason that we had trends in the 1800s (to use your example) is because the extreme wealthy people (royalty) had a talented tailor that was tasked with creating somthign FOR THAT PERSON, it was that influencual person that started the drips to their friends and their friends and their friends and it became a 'trend', nowadays nearly all fashion and style is not made for the individual, it's made for the masses, so instead of a trend growing, it's forced on us. I think the real start to this was Dior's new look or maybe Chanel's suit that were both so pervasive in their respected times that it forced the industry to work a little faster, which then indirectly catalysed ready-to-wear which worked faster and eventually catalysed a more fashionable high street which caused luxury to work faster again to create a world where everything is so quick and forced that it's no longer able to sustain the growth time frame that a 'trend' really needs to have cultural significance
what that girl said at the start is something i’ve been thinking for a while now, but i think it’s a good thing i think people are finding their own style more
With building your quote on quote “own style” is mostly trending items like I personally pick stuff out of trending items and mash it up with stuff thats my own expression. Our society is so focused on being the same, screw being the same I wanna be different. Personally trending styles aren’t your style it’s a way for someone to be “hey I’m staying up to date with everyone else” build your own style, create styles out of your mind not social media, yea you can look at them but don’t get caught up on it.
The "it will never be enough" really hits home. I'd like to think that I don't give into consumerism as much because I don't follow trends, I just like what I like. But does it really matter in the grand scheme of things when I find something new that I like every. single. day. just due to the sheer amount of fashion news and content that I consume? As for the question at the end: As someone who works in Animation, I highly recommend Turning Red, Arcane, and Primal: Tales of Savagery :)
I think the reason there’s so many different trends and cores and genres and so on is bc when a certain trend try to get you in this “box” someone may realize that that can’t obtain that trend or genre of clothing so it will spark another trend that may be a little more affordable.Or maybe a little easier to get your hands on.But since from a lifestyle standpoint everyone can’t afford everything that other people buy it just keeps getting added on to.If that makes much sense.And favorite animated movie gotta be lion king(goat movie)
COVID’s hitting on me for the 3rd time in 11 months, is there a best time to enjoy a Drew Joiner video? I don’t think so 😷 stay safe y’all, have a nice day 🇮🇹
At this point a lot of situations can be true and false at the same time depending on which side you research and build more of a subconscious affinity toward
in terms of fast fashion I think there is a threshold that the speed of trends can take where the fast fashion brands can recognize and reproduce a trend. If a trend is going too fast it's not going to speed up the production of new clothing because it is already too fast for fast fashion to keep up. If anything these microtrends make it so that fast fashion brands aren't recreating as many styles. That's not to say less clothes are made, just that not all trends get picked up on and mass produced.
I've been actively trying to find my style since the middle of last year. I've found that I dress up as a mix of things: cowboy lolita, emo jehova's witness, and SE Asian streetwear. Like I can be all nice with a mini skirt and platforms one day, and the next with oversized sweater and sweatpants. I'm finding that it's not the certain aesthetics that I like, rather I take the colors and certain textures and silhouettes. It's easier for me that way than trying to fit a certain aesthetic. Also most of my wardrobe is thrifted, so I financially and realistically cannot just buy outfits to fit the trending aesthetic. But I like it this way because every piece is more special and unique to me.
I think trends are really just ideas that capture the current zeitgeist. That’s why you can love something and how it looks and then hate it two years later. It’s not based on objective “good” qualities but on the type of person the trend makes you. But I think that’s why we’re headed into an era of personal style more than ever. People are thinking collectively but expressing on an individual level and adapting trends to their own closets. At least that’s true for people who are into fashion imo
i don't know if the idea of "there are WAY TOO MANY clothes produced" and "everybody should have a unique and individual style" are really compatible. in the west we focus too much on our individual identity, responsibility, position in society, resonsibility for climate change etc. etc. not as groups, classes, families, etc. . Fashion is driving this western individualism that is a direct result of capitalism and the exploitation of the working class and third world. i think for humanity to be able to exist on this planet, the hyper individualism of the west needs to end. I think you have a relatively positive view on this topic with regards to durable clothing and also with regards to the cause of this problem: the fact is that this is a problem of overproduction not overconsumption. advertisements and instagram models are driving our consumption but they are a direct result of the violent advertisement campaigns by fashion firms to make you feel inadequate with what you have and want more and more and be your own unique self at all times and follow trends and never have enough. we shouldnt feel this way. its not really natural to want to be 100% uniquely styled and buy new clothes everyday eventhough it makes you feel better about yourself and you think its art or whatever. its just not sustainable for a long time. In conclusion just go naked for the sake of the betterment of all of humanity (revolution is the only solution)
Really good video and i'd say even philosophy talk lol. That thing about always wanting more, the dog eating analogy was very real, i feel like that example will live in my mind for quite some time while shopping clothes lol
My favorite animated film is one that not many people have seen. Lupin: III the castle of cagliostro. It's Hayao Myazaki's first feature film and has an incredible retro charm to it. If you want to see some gorgeous retro animation look up the car chase scene.
I love how there are subtitles in the video, the subtitle that yt provide on the phone version come with a black background and the font is too big and blocks a part of the video. it's so nice when videos have their own subtitles ^_^
the best advice i’ve ever gotten in my life is kiss: keep it simple stupid the best thing i’ve ever done to help me develop my “style” is my extremely basic mental checklist before i buy an item; Will I be sad if someone buys this/can I leave without it? and am I excited to wear it? Don’t overthink your purchase. “Is this who I am/Will be?” “Does it match what I wear?“ “What if my style drives me somewhere else?” If you love an item, and can’t be without it, just get it. You might not be able to put your style into words yet, but your body knows what you love before your mind does. as long as you wear what attracts you, 9/10 the pieces will come together.
I fell into following fashion trends for a bit. Now I've been able to flourish my own style and take different parts of different aesthetics to build an outfit. I actually have fun making outfits again.
Thanks for the subtitles! I dunno why, but I just like having them for some reason. They also come in handy when you mishear something, then you can just look down. | #PVV | I don't think I actually have an animated movie that I'd call my favorite, but two animated movies that I watched recent were that super hero dragon ball movie, and jujutsu kaisen zero. Both of which were pretty good in my opinion
My favorites since a kid were disney hercules and tarzan. Wanted to be built like them. Probably the reason I studied sports and fell in love with working out 😂 love the pvv concept! Love ✌🏼
As a 34 year old , I wish I had never gotten rid of ANYTHING, it all comes back around . I been so into fashion my whole life , but with major injuries and stuff to slow me down at times , I’ve really just come to love investing in pieces I’ll love forever . I often get compliments on pieces that are many many seasons old jus sayin , where what you truly think is cool , easier said than done I know … Edit : by “get rid of “ I never mean throw in thr garbage btw
Agree big time- I was gonna comment this and you kinda went into it, but I think some of it is contentment, not being happy with what you got already (although inevitable if you’re interested in fashion you’re gonna dip into the market for new stuff). Another thing which not necessarily the case for everyone but I think for some it’s being comfortable with themselves, some think if they hop on the latest trends they will be accepted more or look more important than they are whereas not enough develop their own style and then take inspiration from different bits. But then not being afraid to rock old trends too
Like sometimes I have the biggest respect for random people in the streets who wear the most random stuff what would be considered as “not good” but it’s what they like and they’re happy with that and I think that’s great in a sense haha even though they couldn’t care less
There are a few things I need to address in this video. First, what I was attempting to illustrate about “The Ugly Truth” of modern fashion trends is that simply under the current model there is no such thing as enough. I also think that a lot of people use fashion to feel as though they are better than others and to act snobby. This is also a very ugly truth of the matter in my opinion. Last, my captions thought I said ‘fashion nymph’ and ‘johns enthusiast’ haha kind a funny to type that out. I meant ‘Fashion mf’ and Jawnz enthusiast’ which are two terms used as slang to describe someone who is just really into fashion. I am curious to see what everyone thinks of this video.
I believe one of those terms is just from the Throwing fits page. Jawnz jawnz jawnz
I agree with the idea tbh that people use fashion to feel better than others. As u said, back in the day, the rich were the ones who dressed well/participate in fashion and to some extent that is still going on since better quality garments are not affordable to the majority of people.
I don't think it's fair to say that ALL people use fashion as a means to feel better than others. For many, it's just a creative thing.
With regards to building a unique style, the problem is that we are too focused on aesthetics and on fitting inside a certain "box" of aesthetic that we get caught up within a particular niche, instead of being able to piece together parts of different aesthetics in the unique puzzle that represents each unique character. You are fed with products and well put outfits so much, that you try to look like the best stylist of that particular aesthetic, not like yourself
honestly my whole rule for getting dressed everyday is what makes ME special, whats makes ME different. why am I special?? why am I different?? the rzn we stand out is bc we dress to set ourselves apart. so, next time you get dressed remember what makes u different from the rest.
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"I can't afford my style" if that makes sense
Omg this 100%
feels like today's the first time you see so many people dressed identically and yet each believes he/she's wearing something groundbreaking and unique
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exactly there’s a huge lack of individuality
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Yup, and they are brainwashed into thinking they like it, my problem is with adidas sambas, i can swear that 90% of these people don‘t even like it, and thats what bothers me the most, you can see its not „their style“…nevermind, i‘ll stick to my white air forces 😅
i think that the ugly truth is that with trends moving so fast and having such short lifetimes, people who genuinely enjoy some trends will have nowhere to go. Be it parachute pants or ties, people will be accused of copying trends when an item is in style but once these trends fall out, they will be seen as "out of style" and "not with the times". Basically, I'm saying that no matter if you wear "trendy" or "not trendy" clothing, you will still be perceived negatively by many, just in different ways.
Fr at the end it depends of what connects with you
The realest way to put it just worry about what you like and you’ll be good
I often find the best dressed folks don’t care what people think so whatever they put on, they pull off..being comfortable with yourself is the ultimate swag.
Can’t win out here 😭
This is reality, you’re either too far ahead or too far behind. Might as well just do you
the worst feeling is when the style i’ve loved for years becomes popular.. silly i knowww but the problem is people are now gonna think i am ‘untrendy’ and ‘behind the times’ when in reality im just wearing what i like
yea but who cares what ppl think? dress for urself not ithers
for me the worst was when all the clothes i like are lacking,,, i feel like my wardrobe is gone and boring because i cant find good variation in mainstram fashion anymore. i feel like i have nothing else to buy and wear, and i cant find the same affordability in clothes i like anymore if id want to buy new. i feel like there are no more clothes for me in shops anymore and i feel like that sucks 🥲
I relate so much when shoe shopping. God why do most shoes look all the same and ugly!!
Haha, I agree, it feels like ppl will think you only wear it bc it’s trendy
I get this feeling too. I'm Gen X and I've reverted back to what my younger self thought was the coolest stuff to wear/be seen in. Basically Chuck Taylors, old DM's, thrifted finds, DIY jackets and punk band tees. I'm an older woman and now have the privilege of mostly being invisible, so I dress to please my college-age punk kid self and ignore trends. :)
when i hear the idea of "finding your style" like there's an end goal, i don't think that can ever be the case. as you grow and change your idea of your style changes with you. the ugly truth is that companies will take advantage of that. but the beautiful truth is that life will be filled with new ways to express yourself thru your fashion
Thank you we should be allowed to grow and change.
I completely agree. A few years ago I had a sweater vest phase and it’s what made me happy to wear at the time. Now I realized that I grew out of sweater vests and I donated them since I’m not going to wear them anymore. I feel like some people put too much emphasis on ‘finding your style’ when there probably isn’t going to be one style that we’ll fit into for the rest of our lives. As we get older, our tastes and what we want in the clothes we wear will change. That’s not a bad thing, just means we’re changing as we get older.
Yeah I agree, for me I try really hard to ignore micro trends and focus on the bigger overall picture. I try to stick to things that I actually really like in a vacuum without factoring in the current thing on social media. I also think it's important to ask whether something will age well. I.e. "should I buy 10 pairs of vintage t shirts?" Probably not unless that's genuinely what you like and like to wear
Fashion has always been a game of “how dare these people dress in MY niche trend that makes me more unique and therefore superior to them? I’m gonna start dressing in a new way.” We as consumers have enabled this at every socioeconomic level.
I think it’s happening faster now because trends move into the mainstream rather quickly because of social media. Fashions early adopters (and snobs) rely on the exclusivity of the trend they dress in, so they need to cycle through more rapidly to set themselves apart.
to build on the niche trend thing, it's as though people who want to dress uniquely use the trend cycle as a crutch instead of putting in the effort to cultivate a personal style that reflects them and their tastes. kinda like a symptom of instant gratification
@@xo_oblivion very true! They wanna be ‘first’ instead of creative lol
Wearing what you like and what fits you well will always be better than trends! But mixing in something “of the moment” is always a nice accent to your personal style.
that is a great way of putting it i think!
The big issue I believe is that too many people want to look a certain way in order to feel validated. Instead of branching out and doing their own thing people just copy what the most influential people are doing.
This is exactly it!
I find it weird because I live in a huge city [Sydney] yet I rarely to NEVER actually see anyone wearing things that are "viral trendy" and online it's only a handful of people actually wearing them. [for specific items, things like loafers and sweater vests are always going to be around]. all of this stuff is very online-only
I thought Melbourne was the more fashiony city in Australia
I agree though, ppl think what they see online is trendy or not trendy even though you see very few ppl wearing it irl. Which probably is why trend cycles go so fast now. Things are ”out” before ppl irl even have time to wear them
I live in NY and you are 💯💯💯🤌🏽 right!!!! I never see people even at the mall buying or wearing the clothes I see online! I literally get stared at for dressing “fashionable” AT THE MALL😂 I’m like I got these clothes from HERE guys not MARS!
@@DrewJoiner different suburbs of melbourne have their own styles, but i don’t really see any huge “trends” like i do online…
@@DemureDarlingslol agreed. Everywhere I go I get a lot of attention for dressing remotely cute (sometimes even low key out of style things lol). I think the real world is a lot less fashionable than people think it is
i feel like today so many people are hyper fixated on aesthetics and looking like a “walking” aesthetic. i was a culprit of this, i tried to fit into one aesthetic or the next cool or popular looking one and i was miserable because i felt like i couldn’t find clothes that really expressed all of me. Then i realized that i’m an individual, one style of clothing wouldn’t work because my personality was too big for that. so i started mixing styles and genres that defined my identity. i feel like a log of people don’t realize that though, and that’s why trends move so fast
I think one big reason trends are so consumed nowadays is because they are promoted as "jump on this train before others do". They are made to seem like these things are unique and new, but eventually they just become oversaturated and we get "bored" of the trend, leading to overconsumption. Fashion enthusiasts constantly wanting to be "unique" is what usually drives these trends forward... I think the correct way to look at fashion isn't to "be unique", but more so take whatever you like personally, regardless of popularity.
I was actually speaking to a friend about this several weeks ago. We both agreed that fashion trends are moving extremely fast as well. We have been into fashion for years ourselves and have been settling into one of the "trends" we found best for ourselves years ago while building up on it instead of hopping from trend to trend so quickly. We find the current trend pace entertaining yet tiring.
I honestly use trends to find new cool things I might like. This year I didn’t like any of the actual clothes such as the vampcore or the ironic tees but I loved the footwear such as sambas and salomon a lot. I also like that bell bottoms came back but that’s not really a trend
What is vampcore?
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Vampcore is interest to use as a reference but I don’t really want to partake in the exact style too much good ideas to take from tho
@@zerois2801 I don't hate the style but it think it takes way from what its intended for and dumbs down styles made by other designers such as rick owens, old raf simons, and the punk fashion scene like undercover and number nine.
@@user-ut1ip2xs1s yes but also means more acessible
The most important thing right now is not getting caught up in one style/trend. I think we can all profit off this overflow of fashion trends going on right now, picking things up from trends we like and leave the stuff we don't, without getting influenced too much by the "public consensus" on a style aka whatever is trending on tiktok, and making it work in our own wardrobe
I know you said that saying “it’s tik tok” is a cop out but i definitely think it is. Style TikTokers have a direct financial incentive to lean into new style trends, trends that won’t last, and absurdist fashion. They’re paid by fast fashion companies to essentially be their mouth pieces and continue pushing new and changing trends. They also push more flashy and crazy fashion that clearly isn’t timeless or going to last in an effort to get more views. Style isn’t driven by individualism anymore. It’s driven by $ and status to fit in with influencers who were told by companies what they want to be trendy
This video is amazing (I even sent it to my anthropology professor). I think the ugly truth about fashion trends is that they will always prioritize certain groups of individuals - almost always skinny and rich people -, like the rise of y2k recently in fashion shows. Also, the fact that we, as social human beings, are always trying to fit in a group even when we tell we're not, so we try so hard to fit in a certain aesthetic or niche or whatever, and that ""demands"" buying new things because you are never satisfied with the way you look, because you are constantly bombarded with new items or new micro trends within the niche.
People don’t like to be realistic anymore and don’t think about their wardrobe in a daily wear sense. Either they like to have more and more or they don’t think about what they truly like to wear/what’s realistic for them to wear on a daily basis. Ty drew for the content very informative 😎
I recently got into fashion maybe last year and i’ve been experimenting with lots of clothes and finally finding my style but left with lots of clothes i don’t wear anymore. Although going to donate them to charity shops i still feel somewhat guilty of my waste, “the bigger picture” section of the video made me feel less guilty and more comfortable with my fashion journey. Great and informative video
It makes so much sense that you and Laini are friends. I love watching both of your channels!! For fav animated movie, it would have to be "Up" it's such a classic.
I barely got into fashion in the beginning of 2021. Still learning and understanding of the concept of fashion. How I see it as the “bad” is the amount of trends come and go like shoooo. For me it’s way to much to try to catch up, but shoutout to anyone that can catch up more power to yall. 👏🏾👏🏾 Also it can be over saturated. Ugly truth is no matter what style you have on, be happy about it. Don’t need to get approval or some sort of recognition in front of you, let it happen on its own and own it like a runway.
Also if someone hates on your style is because they don’t want to see you smile and enjoy what you wear they’re called haters for a reason.
My problem with the fashion industry is just my problem with consumerism overall which is just that we engage in it with such disregard for the process or the importance of accumulating or procuring new goods. We are so numb to receiving new things that we cycle through trends monthly giving old clothes to charity, selling them or letting them sit in our closet. We’re filling up our homes with things that don’t matter to us. I realised I have so many clothes that mean nothing to me, I started to forget my sense of personal style (which I was desperately trying to buy. Then when each new item came it felt like wasn’t enough, didn’t capture me enough), I had so much stuff that felt like it wasn’t how I wanted to dress. I considered how I wanted to dress too expensive and inaccessible. Actually the amount I was spending on trendy items here and there could add up to one meaningful, lasting, well made and ethically sourced piece every two months or so. The hardest for me is seeing what others are wearing and wanting to participate in trends. Feeling left behind. I’m enjoying using the clothes I have and saving up each month to buy an item on my wishlist. I finally bought a hysteric glamour jumper a few months ago on my wishlist at a good price and it was really rewarding. I forgot that clothes used to be bought as presents or as a treat. I haven’t bought anything in a few months and Im looking forward to my next purchase, and im also enjoying wanting things, not buying them straight away, and then accepting it’s ok not to have them. I will never have every item I want and I can’t try to solve that by buying lots of fast fashion items to fill the void. It’s extremely hard and unknown to us but I think more people are coming around to it. really enjoyed this video :)
It’s almost like fashion is an art and art is subjective 🤔. Great video! So so tired of everyone trying to be different. I like what I like and dress accordingly. The things I like used to be and kinda still are seen as weird. It’s only a matter of time before they’re a new microtrend. I’ve accepted it.
i really appreciate the video! As a matter of fact, i’ve been thinking about buying a whole expensive outfit that i thought might be “trendy and fashionable” lately but your words made me reconsider my purchase. thank u!
To me maybe the ugly would be that the creative people rarely get the recognition they deserve. It's usually big brands stealing indie designers' projects, celebrities bringing niche trends to wider audience being credited for coming up with new things, etc.
The flip side of the turbocharged speed of trends is that we're forced to curate our own outlook. I honestly love that, this gives me more creative freedom than I had 20 years ago in junior high.
And the favorite animated movie? My childhood classics: Mulan, Lion King, Pocahontas. Haven't watched them in awhile, maybe I will :) this starts to be my favorite fashion YT channel, I love fashion videoessays/commentaries and yours are especially good. Chef's kiss 👌
For me Ratatouille is in another level of animated movies, it's like top tear. I must have watched it more than 10 times already and I enjoy every second of the movie, it just makes me happy idk exactly why, but I love it
Can't wait for everyone to focus on their own individual character and character outfits. This "everything trending" is a step towards that
For a very long time, I was not interested in fashion. I thought fashion was all about consumption and feeling uncomfortable to be pretty (that tends to be expected for women). Now, I feel very interested. I'm learning silhouettes that I like, fabrics that work for weather where I live, colors that are good for my skin, and ways to balance feminity and masculinity. My goal is to have a capsule wardrobe in the future, once I've learned enough.
You’re absolutely right about this topic. There is too many trends and too much clothing being produced. We clearly don’t need that much clothes. I mean...I have ten sneakers four dress shoes and a lot of socks. And I wear my favourite sneakers 98% of the time.
Also, the production of clothes ramped up because of social media, in my opinion. Because people started seeing themselves more, they became more self-conscious. And we broke the rule of comparing ourselves to other people. With that, people started consuming more for the 👍s. And fashion brands, particularly fast-fashion brands, met and meet our shallow demands.
I think personal style comes from rewearing clothes and making them pieces that are characteristic for oneself! I think its scary that people feel the constant need to hop onto every trend and overconsume. I hope that in the future the majority of people will find out which trends they truly like and try to be more conscious about their consumer decisions. That doesnt mean no one should ever buy or try out a new style or trend, but it means investing in staples and consciously thinking about the wear they would get out of that item and how to corporate it into their wardrobe :)
Trends got me spending money pretty blind on most of the time low quality/un-styleable pieces that did not fit my body well. But in doing so made me actually pay attention to fashion because I asked myself why did these things not look as good on me, and slowly began learning about body types and aesthetics and eventually used all that to developed my own personal style. Which is something that will look great on you and remain looking great on you whether on trend or off trend, expresses yourself confidently, and won't bend to any influences beside your own. (Funny how refusing the influence of trends will actually make you stand out and be memorable too)
A lot of people are still in the earlier phase of discovery and it's much easier to copy what looks good on other people or the newest and the hottest rather than experiment themselves. So even if they do look everyday or played out it's very understandable since most people just wanna go outside looking put together rather than spending all this time developing their own personal expression.
Fashion has never been in a better place than rn, it's just so accessible to all price points. I love the focus on versatility among wardrobes and how there's not just one 'aesthetic'. The rise of vintage/pre owned pieces is also great to see. #PVV the OG Pokémon movie all day
Hyper-consumerism is really the end goal of these companies and why we are going through trends so fast and purchasing so many things we don't need. There's a reason advertising spots cost A LOT of money now, why Netflix is incorporating ads into their streaming service, and why UA-cam is only going to keep adding more ads to every video. (we'll long for the day of just two skippable ads very soon).
Also part of the reason that even though cost of living has gone up, people aren't cutting back as much as predicted and we are still spending on luxury products. I've made a concentrated effort to only buy versatile basic articles of clothing lately if I am going to make a clothing purchase. I've dabbled in a few trends such as New Balance, but everything else I take a look, appreciate the look, and then just move on. It doesn't make sense to try and keep up with every new trend because as soon as you get that item it'll be old news by the end of the year, or sometimes by the end of the month.
#pvv - Shrek 2 is the most hilarious movie and I still like to watch it sometimes lol. Besides that, Finding Nemo, Land Before Time, Iron Giant are all classics for me. On the more grownup sideI loved Princess Mononoke which I randomly saw on streaming recently.
You don’t need to apologize love, you’re perspective is very relevant and needed. Thank you! 🫶🏾
Working a bit in the e-commerce business, the the question I always think about even when I saw a lot of garments a day. Where are peoples authenticity? An « individual » is something that can subjectivity be viewed in a way of that one person dressing but if you look at those micro trend communities damn near everybody dresses in codes. Attitude towards hyper expressionism or trying to be different for no reason makes no sense because at the end of the day it’s just clothes. It’s the impact that makes the impression on people. What you represent and what truth you want to show to the world. Not to conform into something your not.
The ugly true: ‘trends’ are not ‘styles’; trends will usually rip/remix from a previous era’s trend that was most likely controversial or polarizing in some form… where styles signify you’re apart of a certain group, walk the walk, play the part, etc.
What happens through social media or ‘Fashion MFs’ and others, is a virtual audience to the spectacle but at a rapid rate due to expected short form content; quickly commodifying a signifier, alienating it from its original source for the sake of monetizing and marketing a personal brand that solely signifies over consumption masked as having the lead on ‘cool’ or ‘unique’ in hopes of garnering a true audience to rinse and repeat and feed the hungry ghost of validation and self indulgence.
Great video, fun to watch! 😄
Unrelated but I’ve been a fan for more than a year now and also seeing your style progression is crazy. your editing has become much more refine and I’m really liking it. Intro was rlly good.
Thanks I feel exhausted by fashion and it’s tiring. I used to love fashion and sketching but hate the industry.
This is the first video of yours that I'm seeing and you got a new sub, so don't worry you delivered your opinions very well, thank you!
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Really fascinating video Drew. I think fashion as a whole is in a weird space. While I like your point about there just being more references to choose from. I am worried that with trends moving so fast that people will be forced to resort to consuming more and more
Honestly if you just wear what you like, the trends will just find their way back to you lol. I've always liked sambas and 2 years ago I would buy them at the adidas outlet for $30. Now they're apparently trending and impossible to find. There's no winning
I think the breakdown of the stigma and uniformity present in clothing through previous generations along with social media and the rise in the general wealth of households has allowed this new era of consumer culture to arise within the new generations…. Opposed to previous generations diversity In style is praised instead of looked down upon and ideas can spread rapidly through social media.
No need to apologise Drew for spreading the truth, Drew you do you! Sometimes telling people the truth for the greater good is another way to spread peace love and positivity. Your delivery was appropriate and tempered. There are too many self conceited people nowadays with objects of status often being the reason why. Bravo.
I think in regards to the speed in which fashion trends blow by every day is in relation to how accessible and quick social media changes. Humanities plight is that no matter how much we have it will never suffice.
I kinda just stopped caring about fashion, I realized in hindsight, clothes really do not matter and people who are so concerned about their clothes and what’s in style all the time tend to be the most miserable people. It’s all just one big dopamine rush of consumerism/materialism. You will never truly be happy buying new clothes all the damn time
It can still be fun, though! I don't care about keeping up with trends and I don't shop nearly as much as I used to, but I do really enjoy talking about fashion and watching videos like this online.
@@paygej8710 I agree. Fashion only makes people miserable when they’re into it for the wrong reasons. I only dress to impress myself and feel good in the mirror, and that’s turned out to be such a healthy thing. My confidence is 10x what it used to be and it’s started a snowball effect of me improving other areas of my life as well.
I don’t think all fashion is that case. Obviously recently there’s been a big boom of that, but fashion is the whole point of some people’s jobs, expression, and outlet.
@@ithinkiwoulddie9196 I disagree to a certain extent, style is more of an expression because style is the way you walk, talk and carry yourself which in short translates to the way you dress. That is the same reason why you can travel to a 3rd world country and see some very unique individuals expressing themselves beyond clothes. Fashion is more or less chasing a trend and has been oversaturated chasing the next best thing. I stopped caring about fashion the moment I started seeing more of the world and realized that it's all pretentious. I just would rather dress normal now and leave fashion for the younger generation
@@mon3ylounge fashion is also a certain way of seeing the world, and also exploring cultures, so no I don’t think all fashion is just “chasing trends”. I also think this way because not all fashion subcultures or styles are trending or even relevant to today. Like cult party kei, it is long forgotten but there is still a small potion of people who love this subculture, and that is not chasing a trend.
I agree with a lot of the points made, especially with the overconsumption. I often find myself interested in another piece after just acquiring a piece, and it hit me that there really is no need for the overconsumption of similar products. If you already have one tee that has a similar graphic to another shirt, the composition of the fit would articulate the same ethos, regardless of the graphic or art found on the shirt. The one area I've started to personally look into more is pieces I don't incorporate or even simply just taking breaks from the entirety of hunting for new pieces. What I've found more enjoyable personally is going out and stumbling across random shops that have vintage wears or jewelry and genuinely one of a kind wears you wouldn't find on tiktok or social media, or on someone's mood board. There is so much opportunity for finding more unique pieces without the aid of a tiktok brand, and it's hard to realize that with the forefront of gen-z being social media influence. And I'm not saying I'm perfect myself, I often still will fall back into the bad habit of continuous searching and looking, but I've realized more and more when you've got enough jawnz, there is no need to keep searching.
Great vid Drew, your final point was a hard one to put into words so don’t worry about the delivery too much. I share your interest surrounding the anthropology of consumers, including myself, and I often find it difficult to not over consume. Love your insight and your positivity in general 😊
Contemporary fashion trends are probably based in human mass psychology: Some kind of complicated combination of wanting to be special (staying on top of trends), not being excluded from the pack (keeping up with some of the trends). All in order to attract potential mates. That would be my guess.
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The environmental and human costs that have accompanied the greater democratization of fashion far outweigh amy good that a passing trend could ever provide. It is insane to think that rapid increases in the speed that trends come and go is anything more than a massive misallocation of resources that could have been better spent on food, housing, environmental stewardship, etc
Sorry I’m late on this one Drew, this one was a heater🔥getting philosophical on us.
Honestly thanks for being real about not feeling “on” in the explain and being brave and still posting this. I really appreciate your authenticity. #pvv my fav animated movie definitely Ratatouille. That movie is a banger.
awesome vid dude! i love the emperors new groove, funniest disney movie by far
this was very eye opening! i'm so mind blown. the ideas that were mentioned are so good.
Love Represent! Just picked up a vintage spirit hoodie, Reptor lows, and some 247 pants. Awesome how you got them as a sponsor!
7:34 First is, what you already said, overproduction, fast fashion and so on. But I think its also the hate that "fashion-groups" have against each other like hating on their style, the way they look/ dress etc
Sooo true. Enough only feels like enough for a fleeting moment until its not anymore. It’s tiring & costs a small fortune. Sometimes I enjoy it other times Im sick of it & just want it to stop. If only for a few months. Really I just wanna stick it to the fashion gods & wear whatever I want without judgement
One thing that is kinda cool to think about is fashion in 2016/17/18
when people were wearing hypebeast things and just that. They weren't changing their style every week/month
Mulan! Eternally love that film.
I feel like I have my set items in my wardrobe. I get the best quality I can and just rotate HEAVILY. I take note of runway trends I like and incorporate them into my style but I don't follow trends SPECIFICALLY for the reasons in this video.
I feel like my style is personal, evolves, but is outside trends. Trends, to me, are expensive and wasteful.
Thanks for your video, love your artistic choices and review of your effectiveness. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Mulan really that movie!
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Let's get down to business! To defeat! The Huns!
Who is that girl I see?
Staring straight, back at me.
Think of instead!
A girl worth fighting for!
Dishonour! Dishonour on you! Dishonour on your cow!
I love that movie!
@@DeborahWalkerXOXO haha!! literally going to be stuck in my head the rest of the night
As someone who is a Fashion Design student and working in the industry, I've had this constant feeling of too much. It feels like everything is too much, too fast, and too wasteful. Not to mention lux just isn't what it used to be. Price no longer is a signifier of quality so it's like a guessing game on what is a worthy investment which worsens the wastefulness
This video was so necessary ❤👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
There's nothing better than a Drew Joiner video on Sunday
i think this was all facts man, is the fact that self aggrandizing brings an ego that you shouldn't have in the fashion industry and that's one of the reasons that fashion industry is toxic about i, but Drew that was a dope video man keep it up and i hope everyone is having and amazing day!
Nice vid man, you are one of a few in the space who do these type of video essays which many of us appreciate. You bring a unique perspective and I think you nailed it here. No doubt our world is getting faster in all aspects... Brands are trying to sell us the kool-aid of seasonal fast fashion so it's nice to see someone call out the BS
imo the ugly truth of the fashion industry is that trends haven't really existed for a very long time. The fact we can predict trends in general means that its not us making the decisions and its not the designers either, nothing is water drops making rings if its predetermined. The whole reason that we had trends in the 1800s (to use your example) is because the extreme wealthy people (royalty) had a talented tailor that was tasked with creating somthign FOR THAT PERSON, it was that influencual person that started the drips to their friends and their friends and their friends and it became a 'trend', nowadays nearly all fashion and style is not made for the individual, it's made for the masses, so instead of a trend growing, it's forced on us. I think the real start to this was Dior's new look or maybe Chanel's suit that were both so pervasive in their respected times that it forced the industry to work a little faster, which then indirectly catalysed ready-to-wear which worked faster and eventually catalysed a more fashionable high street which caused luxury to work faster again to create a world where everything is so quick and forced that it's no longer able to sustain the growth time frame that a 'trend' really needs to have cultural significance
tl;dr fashion is a victim of its own creation
Thank you sm for the captions
what that girl said at the start is something i’ve been thinking for a while now, but i think it’s a good thing i think people are finding their own style more
With building your quote on quote “own style” is mostly trending items like I personally pick stuff out of trending items and mash it up with stuff thats my own expression. Our society is so focused on being the same, screw being the same I wanna be different. Personally trending styles aren’t your style it’s a way for someone to be “hey I’m staying up to date with everyone else” build your own style, create styles out of your mind not social media, yea you can look at them but don’t get caught up on it.
I'm so glad that I found your channel! I genuinely love all the content you put out!! Much love
drew the editing style is crazy i love it
This video is such a good take on the whole conversation on trends
You’re getting better and better dawg. Love the editing in this one
The "it will never be enough" really hits home.
I'd like to think that I don't give into consumerism as much because I don't follow trends, I just like what I like. But does it really matter in the grand scheme of things when I find something new that I like every. single. day. just due to the sheer amount of fashion news and content that I consume?
As for the question at the end: As someone who works in Animation, I highly recommend Turning Red, Arcane, and Primal: Tales of Savagery :)
the ugly truth is that all these trends die one day and people saying certain items are “ugly” knowing that it will trend again and they will wear it
Lowkey haha
I think the reason there’s so many different trends and cores and genres and so on is bc when a certain trend try to get you in this “box” someone may realize that that can’t obtain that trend or genre of clothing so it will spark another trend that may be a little more affordable.Or maybe a little easier to get your hands on.But since from a lifestyle standpoint everyone can’t afford everything that other people buy it just keeps getting added on to.If that makes much sense.And favorite animated movie gotta be lion king(goat movie)
COVID’s hitting on me for the 3rd time in 11 months, is there a best time to enjoy a Drew Joiner video? I don’t think so 😷 stay safe y’all, have a nice day 🇮🇹
allora c’è qualche italiano che guarda drew❤🇮🇹
drew uno di noi🙏🏾🙏🏾
godspeed
Get well soon 🤝
At this point a lot of situations can be true and false at the same time depending on which side you research and build more of a subconscious affinity toward
man these videos are just crisp
in terms of fast fashion I think there is a threshold that the speed of trends can take where the fast fashion brands can recognize and reproduce a trend. If a trend is going too fast it's not going to speed up the production of new clothing because it is already too fast for fast fashion to keep up. If anything these microtrends make it so that fast fashion brands aren't recreating as many styles. That's not to say less clothes are made, just that not all trends get picked up on and mass produced.
I've been actively trying to find my style since the middle of last year. I've found that I dress up as a mix of things: cowboy lolita, emo jehova's witness, and SE Asian streetwear. Like I can be all nice with a mini skirt and platforms one day, and the next with oversized sweater and sweatpants. I'm finding that it's not the certain aesthetics that I like, rather I take the colors and certain textures and silhouettes. It's easier for me that way than trying to fit a certain aesthetic. Also most of my wardrobe is thrifted, so I financially and realistically cannot just buy outfits to fit the trending aesthetic. But I like it this way because every piece is more special and unique to me.
Lovin the cardigan drew!
I fear that even personality traits would be trends 💀 “you’re so 2022”
I think trends are really just ideas that capture the current zeitgeist. That’s why you can love something and how it looks and then hate it two years later. It’s not based on objective “good” qualities but on the type of person the trend makes you. But I think that’s why we’re headed into an era of personal style more than ever. People are thinking collectively but expressing on an individual level and adapting trends to their own closets. At least that’s true for people who are into fashion imo
i don't know if the idea of "there are WAY TOO MANY clothes produced" and "everybody should have a unique and individual style" are really compatible. in the west we focus too much on our individual identity, responsibility, position in society, resonsibility for climate change etc. etc. not as groups, classes, families, etc. . Fashion is driving this western individualism that is a direct result of capitalism and the exploitation of the working class and third world. i think for humanity to be able to exist on this planet, the hyper individualism of the west needs to end. I think you have a relatively positive view on this topic with regards to durable clothing and also with regards to the cause of this problem: the fact is that this is a problem of overproduction not overconsumption. advertisements and instagram models are driving our consumption but they are a direct result of the violent advertisement campaigns by fashion firms to make you feel inadequate with what you have and want more and more and be your own unique self at all times and follow trends and never have enough. we shouldnt feel this way. its not really natural to want to be 100% uniquely styled and buy new clothes everyday eventhough it makes you feel better about yourself and you think its art or whatever. its just not sustainable for a long time. In conclusion just go naked for the sake of the betterment of all of humanity (revolution is the only solution)
This is why I've just stuck with a minimalist Japanese inspired look for the last like 4 years. Easier just stick to a uniform
Really good video and i'd say even philosophy talk lol. That thing about always wanting more, the dog eating analogy was very real, i feel like that example will live in my mind for quite some time while shopping clothes lol
My favorite animated film is one that not many people have seen. Lupin: III the castle of cagliostro. It's Hayao Myazaki's first feature film and has an incredible retro charm to it. If you want to see some gorgeous retro animation look up the car chase scene.
I love how there are subtitles in the video, the subtitle that yt provide on the phone version come with a black background and the font is too big and blocks a part of the video. it's so nice when videos have their own subtitles ^_^
the best advice i’ve ever gotten in my life is kiss: keep it simple stupid
the best thing i’ve ever done to help me develop my “style” is my extremely basic mental checklist before i buy an item; Will I be sad if someone buys this/can I leave without it? and am I excited to wear it?
Don’t overthink your purchase. “Is this who I am/Will be?” “Does it match what I wear?“ “What if my style drives me somewhere else?”
If you love an item, and can’t be without it, just get it. You might not be able to put your style into words yet, but your body knows what you love before your mind does. as long as you wear what attracts you, 9/10 the pieces will come together.
You did very well! We did not notice any mistakes 😊
I fell into following fashion trends for a bit. Now I've been able to flourish my own style and take different parts of different aesthetics to build an outfit. I actually have fun making outfits again.
same the worst mistake i did was download clothing apps..
Thanks for the subtitles! I dunno why, but I just like having them for some reason. They also come in handy when you mishear something, then you can just look down. | #PVV | I don't think I actually have an animated movie that I'd call my favorite, but two animated movies that I watched recent were that super hero dragon ball movie, and jujutsu kaisen zero. Both of which were pretty good in my opinion
My favorites since a kid were disney hercules and tarzan. Wanted to be built like them. Probably the reason I studied sports and fell in love with working out 😂 love the pvv concept! Love ✌🏼
Drew, Lainy, Mark, fashionlover4, Frugal, Mina, Reggie, etc etc, should have a video together discussing this exact topic. It would be epic.
The avengers
I believe that the problem of many aspects is responsible consumption and production
Exactly, did I need another pair of shoes? No, but the jjjound Asics are beautiful 😭😭😭
As a 34 year old , I wish I had never gotten rid of ANYTHING, it all comes back around . I been so into fashion my whole life , but with major injuries and stuff to slow me down at times , I’ve really just come to love investing in pieces I’ll love forever . I often get compliments on pieces that are many many seasons old jus sayin , where what you truly think is cool , easier said than done I know …
Edit : by “get rid of “ I never mean throw in thr garbage btw
Does anyone know what's this background music that plays during the first minute?
Yes I do,
They are from a platform called epidemic sound the songs are…
“Award” Pro Reese
“Abracadabra” Arvid svenungsson
I'm interested in fashion, but I barely buy new things often. I just use what I have in my wardrobe
I love being so early to a new drew joiner video
Agree big time- I was gonna comment this and you kinda went into it, but I think some of it is contentment, not being happy with what you got already (although inevitable if you’re interested in fashion you’re gonna dip into the market for new stuff). Another thing which not necessarily the case for everyone but I think for some it’s being comfortable with themselves, some think if they hop on the latest trends they will be accepted more or look more important than they are whereas not enough develop their own style and then take inspiration from different bits. But then not being afraid to rock old trends too
Like sometimes I have the biggest respect for random people in the streets who wear the most random stuff what would be considered as “not good” but it’s what they like and they’re happy with that and I think that’s great in a sense haha even though they couldn’t care less