Finally someone talking from a pro printer perspective, just what I need. And yes! You didn't talk about speed because we dont really care, reliability and ease of use is SO SO SO much more important from a pro perspective. ❤
Wow and I just started looking into getting my first resin printer about 2 days ago, researching and all that and this one was high on my list. Great video!
Internal filter circulation is more important than you think. A single pass through a carbon filter is simply not enough to remove a lot of VOCs. By re-circulating it you are keeping the VOCs in the printer and you can run the chamber fan post-print for a while to ensure most VOCs are filtered out of the air first. I don't plan on getting into resin yet, FDM is doing fine for my purposes, but for me to ever do so the printer is going to have to have an internally circulating carbon and hepa filter for me to trust it with my health, that stuff is nasty even when the smells are removed.
I don't like resin printers either. I typically avoid resin printing videos. Yours was well done and well though out, like your other videos. I'm glad I watched it and I'm staying with filament.
Thank you very much! I’m definitely a filament guy as well. Hence why I have too many filament printers to count and only 2 (working) resin printers 😅😁
I have had the exact opposite experience with resin printing. I have had just the one anycubic photon mono 4k and it has lasted me about 2.5 years now, I always get WAY better print quality on resin prints compared to fdm. FDM is good for printing quickly and prototyping but resin makes the part 1000% better.
Me too! On exactly the same model of printer. For a pro with a print shop, I honestly think he just took a dislike to it early on and never put in the work to get on top of his issues.
I dont understand why everyone loves unfirmation gktwo like there exist stuff like anycubic m7 and even if that dint exist yet nobody is talking about it now even when its better then this printer, aswell as the m5
6K Mono here. Never had a failed print. Never. Not even a partially failed one. Far far better quality than any of my FDM printers. I used 6 paper towels, 1 set of nitrile gloves, and a little IPA for each print. It's so easy and quick to clean up that I'm ready to start the next print job before the current one is out of the cleaner. I'm 8 seconds in and this guy is complaining about mess... my brother in Christ, how the heck did you get resin on the outside of the reservoir? Of course it's a messy experience if you have no workflow or skill! Doesn't smell worse than my FDM printing, but maybe the resins I use don't make much? (mostly eSun Hard Rough ABS like).
I print in my small DIY spray paint booth (uses two 300mm 550 watt extraction fans with commercial filters),which is setup in my garage. It works great in removing all smells/fumes outside. Highly recommend for keeping you and your family healthy.
I feel exactly like you do. I use my resin printer when I have a figurative gun to my head and no choice but to use it. The results are amazing but it's still not worth the hassle unless I can't print the part any other way. I don't own the gk2 but am tempted to upgrade to it. But I don't love that build plate much. If I got this I would remove the carbon filter and just cap that off, and use an exhaust system to outdoors and stay out of the room while printing. I wear a mask with 60926 filters when cleaning and curing, or when I have to be in the room with the printer. Resin printing is dangerous and has to be treated with respect, or you chance getting really bad news from your doctors some years down the road.
I have a resin printer and have found it very messy and wasteful to use the alcohol solution for cleaning the biggest drawback in my opinion as the alcohol vat gets dirty quite quickly and you have to set it aside for a long time for the plastic to cure in the alcohol before you can reuse the alcohol and dispose of the resin. My garage is now full of toxic chemicals and stinks whenever I print anything, all this to still have failed prints. You need to print an awful lot of stuff to make back the cost of buying the printer. Debugging can be difficult to as, after months of failed prints, I finally realized it always failed when the outdoor temperature dropped below 10'C in overnight prints and I had to buy a heater.
I placed a glass screen protector on my photon mono X and sealed it in place with kapton tape. I learned this from using a smaller photon first. I level before each print, clean the vat and spray it with ptfe. You have to be serious about the prints if your going this route.
I agree with most of the points here. The main thing that gets me with resin is that it offers super-fine detail but it doesn't offer super-fine _accuracy_. So for making non-functional things that look nice it's good but for making functional parts it's generally worse than FDM. Due to the way UV curing works there is ALWAYS a bit of distortion. I like the heat resistance of resin. The consumables are considerably more wasteful than FDM. Resin sticks to everything so there is always some left behind when switching resins or whatever. It drips and spills here or there, it's all wasted resin. Then you have alcohol, bags, towels, gloves, FEP sheets, taking time to UV cure messy areas, etc. these are added expenses. I hate that you can't tell if a print is working because you can't see the print as it starts, this is more waste (time, resin, and other consumables) when a print fails. It's just terrible compared to FDM unless you're just printing miniatures.
What resins do you use that stink? Health aside, I've noticed most new technology resins have very low odor, especially when paired with a carbon filter. But yeah I agree with you, and Ross, this machine is a TANK and needs to be the go to option for consumers. Like me, purchasing a cheap resin printer will just make a hobbyist hate the craft.
Health aside? No, you're breathing toxic chemicals and need to stop lmfao. Carbon filters also remove the smell, but get a VOC meter, you're probably in a >10.
Also, stop using paper towels on your fep and go easy with the spatula. Keeping your fep in good condition is how you go a very long time without failed prints. I use a soft silicone spatula and gently wipe and stir vat between prints. For cleaing, I use a silicone brush and have long since stopped with the paper towels. A bit of alcohol and some use of the brush is enough to get the vat clean - without scratching the fep at all.
Nice Video. I waiting for my Tktwo. I can't say i like resin printing, messy and worklow is everything. In contrast to printing, I am more than convinced by the printing results. I have a P1S and I like the practical components. But for high detail like models resin are much better. And "anything that resin make sucks less" are welcome. And i ask the support if the wifi stick included and there say yes.
Thank you! You’re absolutely right. Resin has its drawbacks but there’s some things it can do that filament printers just can’t. Good to know about the WiFi dongle. Thanks for clarifying!
Your frustrations sound like my experience with my original Anycubic Photon. But when i switches to my Photon Mono SE, everything just *worked*. In about a year, I've had maybe a half dozen failed prints, and had to relevel my build plate maybe twice. I also use Elegoo ABS-like Fast Gray, which prints beautifully and is very resilient to impact when cured.
I purchased a GK Two recently for my first resin printer. The mess was way worse than I expected. Resin drips, alcohol baths, slimy residue on everything. I’d like to find a better resin than what I started with. Now it’s back to the learning curve.
Resin printers need a dedicated workspace and SOP to deal with the toxic fumes and chemicals and it’s very messy. I gave mine away and print w/ an X1E and mk4. A 5T XL is on the way.
@@eriklundqvist4221 It prints great out of the box, probably similar to the X1C from what I've read about that printer. The heated chamber is there when I need it; although it is slow to heat up and the improved air filtration over the X1C is a bonus although I don't have an X1C to compare to. The biggest downside I've found is that X1E spare parts were scarce for several months (possibly due to the printer being new) and need to be ordered through a reseller although I haven't checked on their availability in the last few weeks. Many parts are interchangeable w/ the X1C, but the extruder / hot end is not and needs to be ordered through a reseller. You can also purchase a service contract on the X1E through a reseller which will give you much quicker response than directly from BambuLab from what I've heard on the forums, but you're paying for it. For most people the X1C is good enough and prints probably very similar to the X1E, but if you want the added perks, the intranet security and don't mind paying for them then the X1E is the right choice.
Hi guys. While printing, an error message pops up that says 'print error' and the printing is being interrupted. Any ideas? The strange thing is that up to the printed layer, everything looks great and then it just stops printing with this message. I have tried cleaning up everything, using new resin (or even no resin at all with the same file) and leveling again, but still the problem remains. Any ideas?
I too have always avoided resin printers and have backed away from jobs that required resin printing. But recently I have been wondering why, thanks for reminding me.
For me thisnis the best part of the process since it's the easiest to optimize, it just requires a small room to entirely be dedicated to processing a 3d print and double the printers cost in excessories and supplies... But if you want life like detail it's the route to go.
I used the Einscan Pro 2X Plus for this. I was also quite impressed with how it turned out. I figured that rocking chair would be a challenge but it did a nice job.
im about to get an upgrade from Mars 4 Ultra, jeez... that was a pain in the backside, leveling was made so stressful as 1 side NEVER is leveled no matter how much you relevel it. temperature problems, as its always cold where i am. fep/acf problem which also brings from the levelling being a problem, the single wobbly Z bar it has. When it worked it works but mars 4 ultra was the first printer i had, i learnt a lot from it though which is good but having the inconveniences it gave me... hoping the GKtwo can fix and tick those boxes for me 🙃
I've not used an FDM printer yet, but Resin printing is not that hard. The biggest hurdle is correct setup and calibration. After that, yes, clean up can be a chore, but if you work neat to start, you have less to clean after. I run a Mono X, Mono X 6K, M5s, and a couple DLP's. I recently printed 160 minis from Loot Studios with matching bases in a handful of days. 2 failed due to condition of the vat. I would like to get into FDM to print larger scene pieces and objects.
The lack of auto-leveling in most resin printers is horrible; the odor is not the worst part of the resin, so a carbon filter is not enough. Adding and removing resin from the vats is just a horrible, lazy design. I rarely run my four resin printers, but my FDM printers run almost constantly.
Resin is fine. Problem is there are not enough large scale printers. As this is what I want. Otherwise for small prints we already have ton of great options
Hello I just bought this printer at a really good price because the seller has no time for it but it’s stuck in customs. Does anybody know the exact weight and dimensions of the original box? Thanks allot
Thank you! I used the Einscan pro 2X plus in the clip in this video. It does a great job but it’s pricey. The Einstar is another good option that is considerably less expensive.
Resin printing has its niche, for high dimensional accuracy and fine details in complex geometries that are inconvenient for FDM. It's also extraordinarily fast, especially for many small things or something flat. But yes, FDM is definitely still the go-to workhorse of printing.
My last employer had two Form Labs 2 machines.. I wasn't impressed by them at all.. though I think that could in part be due to how many people were using them.. or misusing them 🤔 I've got a CR-30, Kobra Max, I Mega and a Delta Kossel.. the Mega is my most reliable machine and that form lab experience is what has put me off adding resin to the list.. but I think this printer and its reviews have swayed me to buy...
@@slimplynth I’ve never worked with a Formlabs printer first hand but often times more expensive doesn’t mean better so what you’re saying makes sense. The GkTwo is on clearance right now because they’re coming out with the GkThree soon. The scanner I used was the Einscan Pro 2X Plus.
hey man did you get paid for this review? if so you need to be honest and have that communicated in the vid and description. you have obvious kkickback links in the description
One point you mentioned is that it could be better that the air filtration is not a closed loop system, that is wrong, you want to have multiple passes on the carbon, maybe designing a custom tray to hold carbon pellets could have a better result.
Carbon doesn't remove anything but the scent. Run it through as many times as you want. You're just making a localized collection of the chemicals in a cheap carbon brick. If you do "use" those, at least have it outside the workplace.
anycubic are not bad , but if you a problem , that when you become your own tech, cause that won't help. all they do is ask for videos and if they don't like it they say sorry, thats it , even if its from the first day like the one i have in the back room received it and set it up and it did not work , it started and then a burning smell ,,,stopped working ,,,,,and have been fighting with them ever since, all i wanted was a printer that worked ...lol if this printer is worth it , they can have my money , and it looks great. and you video was good,,,,,,,,thank you i will look into there printers'
Interesting video as always 👍 Im no fan of rasin printing. The epoxy resin is in my opinion only for industrial purpose, or on a highly temperature and toxin controlled environment. And not being able to smell the rasin, is not the same as it is safe! Try to measure the toxic molecules in the air, and you will be scared. I still thing the industry havent made the resin/uv process mature enough for hobby usage.
Thanks Asger! I appreciate your viewership as always. Resin definitely requires some special considerations for safety. Good point about no smell not being the same as safe. Just think of carbon monoxide. No odour but it will kill you 😬
Elegoo is a great budget friendly option. I had the original Saturn at one point. Resin printers have come a long way since then, despite not being that long ago. I haven’t tested any of their newer offerings but they seem quite refined.
@@ygk3dI have a couple of OG Saturn's. I've recently upgraded to their 12k Saturn 3s and I took the plunge on a Saturn 3 ultra. Saturn 3 ultra wasn't worth the extra, but the Saturn 3s are worth a lot more than they're asking. I have the mono m3 Max and they don't even touch the Saturn's. For the price, they just work.
It's entirely not the printers fault, unless those Anycubics are duds. Hate to say it, but I've had so few failures in resin it's not even comparable to my years with FDM. I've burned out one screen so far and sometimes the linear rail gets sticky and needs cleaning, but overall, I've had a much, much easier time with resin.
Resin printers are fantastic and have been for a long time. They have got slightly more user friendly yes but all of the issues you mentioned are problems caused by you or your settings. Even the old machines have been extremely competent (I have ran an Etsy shop printing miniatures for years with multiple different printers) Even the original Photons I had printing consistently with no issues, I would run a print. Clear the bed, run another print. It's extremely rare with resin printers that a failure is the printers fault.There isn't many variables to fail outside of your settings. That being said they're very different to FDM and I don't feel the experience translates well for either. I think as long as you're willing to take a look at the issue, realise what's going wrong and why and rectify it. You'll have a strong workflow in no time and understand quickly why you're not getting the results you desire.
Great insights. I’m sure you’re right. Even the cheapest of resin printers can produce great results. The same is true of filament printers. The quality of life features of higher end models are just an added benefit that tends to make the technology more accessible to those that are less knowledgeable.
Well, their biggest weak point, their blocking point for many of us, are not the printers in themselves, but the resin (its toxic smell). If that was not an issue, everything else would be OK.
you seriously need to get ur PPE sorted for resin, its highly carcinogenic. put it in a weed tent tent that fully enclosed with air vents, and add an extractor fan to blow it out of the house or room
This is a great relatable video and I'm finding it at the perfect time. Recently upgraded my FDM machines to a couple Bambus and it's been such a game changer that I've been looking at my resin machines trying to figure out which one I should buy to feel like a comparable upgrade. Was considering the Sonic Mega 8k for this ability to do huge batches, but reliability and consistency is ultimately what matters most to me, so I can focus less of my time on maintenance, downtime, and failures. It's the perfect time because I also just had a Halot Mage's UV light die (flickering) I'm going to buy a couple of these bad boys with your ref link right now. Your channel really deserves to pop off in this space.
It not only sucks less, it has many advantages over fdm and has for years now, except no one on UA-cam cared because they lack the capacity to think outside what anyone on UA-cam has already done. There are a lot more interesting and functional things to print than worthless figurines.
Nice video! I will say resin printing still feels like too much for me in general, even if it can produce cool results. I don't have the space for all the tools, cleaning, and fume extraction. If I had one piece of advice for your channel, it would be to work on your intonation. Right now it sounds too much like you are reading off a slideshow in front of class. I mean this solely as constructive feedback. I would feel more engaged and less distracted if you sounded a bit more comfortable and excited. Act like you are reading the script to a friend or a younger relative you are hoping will get interested in 3D printing. Hope this helps. :)
@@ygk3d Too... Flat? I hate to use potentially insulting terms. It's basically the difference between just reading a script and "speaking" a script. Or think of it like the difference between reading a play out loud versus memorizing it and performing. Watch a few political speeches online and see what makes one good and one bad. You have to have a conversation with your audience, not just say the words to them. Just to be clear, you're already doing a good job, I just think this is an area you could improve in to keep the audience more engaged. It's a skill most people gain over time doing content creation or public speaking. Maybe look up some videos on practicing intonation. I actually just watched one called "How to Practice Your Intonation For Expression" and I learned some things hahaha. Just listen to how she speaks. It's almost sing songy. Don't do that necessarily, don't be over the top, just treat the camera like a friend. Right now you are mostly using a very neutral tone. You should ideally sound interested in what you are saying. I used to have a problem where in my informational videos I would raise my tone at the end of sentences which made it sound like I was questioning everything I said. I still do that sometimes. Otherwise I speak too fast or slur words together. Your annunciation and clarity are actually fantastic, so it's just the tonality I notice. Again, totally no offense intended, your video quality is very high. I wouldn't mention anything if I thought you weren't serious about making good content. I've done a lot of public speaking so I enjoy sharing.
@@802Garage thank you very much for taking the time to write this all out. I’m all for constructive, actionable feedback. I reckon that’s what the other commenter was trying to say too what they wrote “nice informercial”, but that just leaves me feeling dejected rather than giving me something I can work with. I’ll definitely work on this in the future.
@@ygk3d I've just been lecturing other commenters about poorly given feedback and negativity just for the sake of it on Practical Prints' channel, so I feel responsibility to at least give helpful feedback hahaha. I think your best lines in this video are the opening like "I hate resin 3D printing." and "I strongly dislike it. It's messy, resin stinks, and my track record with 3D printers has been incredibly poor." Your tone gets a little too flat at the end of that second sentence and in between those lines. After that it starts to get more into the reading a script tone, but the "... better resin, better settings, or maybe a better operator." section picks up again too. I think it's the parts of the script you feel the most attached to and remember best that feel the most natural. Hopefully that personalizes it a bit. To be fair, a lot of people in nerdy spaces talk in a kind of dry way, like Aurora Tech for example. You can tell she really puts effort into emphasizing and giving energy though, and I think it helps. Anyways I think you totally get my point. Sometimes I like to talk through it to practice myself. Keep up the great work!
@@802Garage thank you for your service to the 3D printing community, honestly. I was just watching an older 3D Printing Nerd video about the Elegoo Giga and saw your contributions in the comment section there as well. It really means a lot to us creators to have an engaged audience. Especially those that help us grow without tearing us down. Kudos my friend.
Can't wait for more people to harm their health with "new user friendly resin" units lmao. But but but the carbon filter, I can't *smell* the VOCs, surely they're gone.
Seeing you holding a wet miniature above the sink makes me wonder if you really dispose of your waste water in a proper way. Remember that Resin is extremely toxic for the environment.
That’s totally fair. If you don’t need it, I wouldn’t advise getting into it. But there are many applications where it excels. Maybe we’ll see some non-toxic resins in the future… but until then, it’s important to follow all of the safety precautions.
nah, you wrong, it's the best tool for jewelry and boardgame miniatures there is, sure you need to wear gloves, respirator have hepa filtered air intake and be overall careful, but that's a right tool for a job
Finally someone talking from a pro printer perspective, just what I need. And yes! You didn't talk about speed because we dont really care, reliability and ease of use is SO SO SO much more important from a pro perspective. ❤
Wow and I just started looking into getting my first resin printer about 2 days ago, researching and all that and this one was high on my list. Great video!
Thank you very much!
I recently bought this printer, it's amazing. I use water washable resin, practically odorless and so easy to clean.
Internal filter circulation is more important than you think. A single pass through a carbon filter is simply not enough to remove a lot of VOCs. By re-circulating it you are keeping the VOCs in the printer and you can run the chamber fan post-print for a while to ensure most VOCs are filtered out of the air first. I don't plan on getting into resin yet, FDM is doing fine for my purposes, but for me to ever do so the printer is going to have to have an internally circulating carbon and hepa filter for me to trust it with my health, that stuff is nasty even when the smells are removed.
I don't like resin printers either. I typically avoid resin printing videos. Yours was well done and well though out, like your other videos. I'm glad I watched it and I'm staying with filament.
Thank you very much! I’m definitely a filament guy as well. Hence why I have too many filament printers to count and only 2 (working) resin printers 😅😁
I have had the exact opposite experience with resin printing. I have had just the one anycubic photon mono 4k and it has lasted me about 2.5 years now, I always get WAY better print quality on resin prints compared to fdm. FDM is good for printing quickly and prototyping but resin makes the part 1000% better.
Me too! On exactly the same model of printer. For a pro with a print shop, I honestly think he just took a dislike to it early on and never put in the work to get on top of his issues.
I dont understand why everyone loves unfirmation gktwo like there exist stuff like anycubic m7 and even if that dint exist yet nobody is talking about it now even when its better then this printer, aswell as the m5
6K Mono here. Never had a failed print. Never. Not even a partially failed one. Far far better quality than any of my FDM printers. I used 6 paper towels, 1 set of nitrile gloves, and a little IPA for each print. It's so easy and quick to clean up that I'm ready to start the next print job before the current one is out of the cleaner. I'm 8 seconds in and this guy is complaining about mess... my brother in Christ, how the heck did you get resin on the outside of the reservoir? Of course it's a messy experience if you have no workflow or skill! Doesn't smell worse than my FDM printing, but maybe the resins I use don't make much? (mostly eSun Hard Rough ABS like).
I print in my small DIY spray paint booth (uses two 300mm 550 watt extraction fans with commercial filters),which is setup in my garage. It works great in removing all smells/fumes outside. Highly recommend for keeping you and your family healthy.
I feel exactly like you do. I use my resin printer when I have a figurative gun to my head and no choice but to use it. The results are amazing but it's still not worth the hassle unless I can't print the part any other way. I don't own the gk2 but am tempted to upgrade to it. But I don't love that build plate much. If I got this I would remove the carbon filter and just cap that off, and use an exhaust system to outdoors and stay out of the room while printing. I wear a mask with 60926 filters when cleaning and curing, or when I have to be in the room with the printer. Resin printing is dangerous and has to be treated with respect, or you chance getting really bad news from your doctors some years down the road.
I have a resin printer and have found it very messy and wasteful to use the alcohol solution for cleaning the biggest drawback in my opinion as the alcohol vat gets dirty quite quickly and you have to set it aside for a long time for the plastic to cure in the alcohol before you can reuse the alcohol and dispose of the resin. My garage is now full of toxic chemicals and stinks whenever I print anything, all this to still have failed prints. You need to print an awful lot of stuff to make back the cost of buying the printer. Debugging can be difficult to as, after months of failed prints, I finally realized it always failed when the outdoor temperature dropped below 10'C in overnight prints and I had to buy a heater.
That pretty much summarizes my experience as well.
I placed a glass screen protector on my photon mono X and sealed it in place with kapton tape. I learned this from using a smaller photon first. I level before each print, clean the vat and spray it with ptfe. You have to be serious about the prints if your going this route.
I agree with most of the points here. The main thing that gets me with resin is that it offers super-fine detail but it doesn't offer super-fine _accuracy_. So for making non-functional things that look nice it's good but for making functional parts it's generally worse than FDM. Due to the way UV curing works there is ALWAYS a bit of distortion. I like the heat resistance of resin. The consumables are considerably more wasteful than FDM. Resin sticks to everything so there is always some left behind when switching resins or whatever. It drips and spills here or there, it's all wasted resin. Then you have alcohol, bags, towels, gloves, FEP sheets, taking time to UV cure messy areas, etc. these are added expenses. I hate that you can't tell if a print is working because you can't see the print as it starts, this is more waste (time, resin, and other consumables) when a print fails. It's just terrible compared to FDM unless you're just printing miniatures.
At minute 5.56 i see a vacuform machine. Can you please indicate where I can faind that machine? Thanks!!
@@PietroMalaguti it’s the Mayku Formbox.
What resins do you use that stink? Health aside, I've noticed most new technology resins have very low odor, especially when paired with a carbon filter.
But yeah I agree with you, and Ross, this machine is a TANK and needs to be the go to option for consumers. Like me, purchasing a cheap resin printer will just make a hobbyist hate the craft.
The one that really smelled was Siraya Tech Blu.
Health aside? No, you're breathing toxic chemicals and need to stop lmfao. Carbon filters also remove the smell, but get a VOC meter, you're probably in a >10.
Also, stop using paper towels on your fep and go easy with the spatula. Keeping your fep in good condition is how you go a very long time without failed prints.
I use a soft silicone spatula and gently wipe and stir vat between prints. For cleaing, I use a silicone brush and have long since stopped with the paper towels. A bit of alcohol and some use of the brush is enough to get the vat clean - without scratching the fep at all.
Thanks for the tip!
Nice Video. I waiting for my Tktwo. I can't say i like resin printing, messy and worklow is everything.
In contrast to printing, I am more than convinced by the printing results. I have a P1S and I like the practical components. But for high detail like models resin are much better. And "anything that resin make sucks less" are welcome.
And i ask the support if the wifi stick included and there say yes.
Thank you! You’re absolutely right. Resin has its drawbacks but there’s some things it can do that filament printers just can’t.
Good to know about the WiFi dongle. Thanks for clarifying!
Your frustrations sound like my experience with my original Anycubic Photon. But when i switches to my Photon Mono SE, everything just *worked*. In about a year, I've had maybe a half dozen failed prints, and had to relevel my build plate maybe twice. I also use Elegoo ABS-like Fast Gray, which prints beautifully and is very resilient to impact when cured.
Nice. Glad to hear your issues got resolved.
I purchased a GK Two recently for my first resin printer. The mess was way worse than I expected. Resin drips, alcohol baths, slimy residue on everything.
I’d like to find a better resin than what I started with. Now it’s back to the learning curve.
Yeah… unfortunately the mess is unavoidable. It’s my least favourite thing about resin.
Buy something like a anycubic its like the gk two but better idk why people say gktwo is so good even tho it almost has nothing
Resin printers need a dedicated workspace and SOP to deal with the toxic fumes and chemicals and it’s very messy. I gave mine away and print w/ an X1E and mk4. A 5T XL is on the way.
What is a 5t xl? I googled it but couldn't find anything
@@fabianluethi03 5 tool head Prusa XL
How do you like the X1E?
@@eriklundqvist4221 It prints great out of the box, probably similar to the X1C from what I've read about that printer. The heated chamber is there when I need it; although it is slow to heat up and the improved air filtration over the X1C is a bonus although I don't have an X1C to compare to. The biggest downside I've found is that X1E spare parts were scarce for several months (possibly due to the printer being new) and need to be ordered through a reseller although I haven't checked on their availability in the last few weeks. Many parts are interchangeable w/ the X1C, but the extruder / hot end is not and needs to be ordered through a reseller. You can also purchase a service contract on the X1E through a reseller which will give you much quicker response than directly from BambuLab from what I've heard on the forums, but you're paying for it. For most people the X1C is good enough and prints probably very similar to the X1E, but if you want the added perks, the intranet security and don't mind paying for them then the X1E is the right choice.
Hi guys. While printing, an error message pops up that says 'print error' and the printing is being interrupted. Any ideas? The strange thing is that up to the printed layer, everything looks great and then it just stops printing with this message. I have tried cleaning up everything, using new resin (or even no resin at all with the same file) and leveling again, but still the problem remains. Any ideas?
@@alexioshamilton8284 no, sorry. You’d be best to reach out to their customer support to see if they can help.
I too have always avoided resin printers and have backed away from jobs that required resin printing. But recently I have been wondering why, thanks for reminding me.
For me thisnis the best part of the process since it's the easiest to optimize, it just requires a small room to entirely be dedicated to processing a 3d print and double the printers cost in excessories and supplies... But if you want life like detail it's the route to go.
Which 3d scanner do you use 😮, scan came out pretty good!
I used the Einscan Pro 2X Plus for this. I was also quite impressed with how it turned out. I figured that rocking chair would be a challenge but it did a nice job.
im about to get an upgrade from Mars 4 Ultra, jeez... that was a pain in the backside, leveling was made so stressful as 1 side NEVER is leveled no matter how much you relevel it. temperature problems, as its always cold where i am. fep/acf problem which also brings from the levelling being a problem, the single wobbly Z bar it has.
When it worked it works but mars 4 ultra was the first printer i had, i learnt a lot from it though which is good but having the inconveniences it gave me... hoping the GKtwo can fix and tick those boxes for me 🙃
I've not used an FDM printer yet, but Resin printing is not that hard. The biggest hurdle is correct setup and calibration. After that, yes, clean up can be a chore, but if you work neat to start, you have less to clean after. I run a Mono X, Mono X 6K, M5s, and a couple DLP's. I recently printed 160 minis from Loot Studios with matching bases in a handful of days. 2 failed due to condition of the vat.
I would like to get into FDM to print larger scene pieces and objects.
The lack of auto-leveling in most resin printers is horrible; the odor is not the worst part of the resin, so a carbon filter is not enough. Adding and removing resin from the vats is just a horrible, lazy design. I rarely run my four resin printers, but my FDM printers run almost constantly.
Same here. I was so pissed off having to clean everything after each print I only used it twice!
I was looking at getting a resin printer for miniatures. But everything you just said was the reason I didn't bother with it.
Can you link the scanner you used for the chair ? Maybe a review video?
It's the Einscan Pro 2X Plus. It's an older model at this point but still works really well.
Ok like your video and subscribed. Like the no-frills direct delivery without the cat memes and guff.
Thanks :)
thanks buddy! your desktop looks just like mine!
The man himself. Welcome sir. Love your videos!
Resin is fine. Problem is there are not enough large scale printers. As this is what I want. Otherwise for small prints we already have ton of great options
There are a variety of large format resin printers on the market from the likes of Peopoly and Phrozen.
Hello I just bought this printer at a really good price because the seller has no time for it but it’s stuck in customs. Does anybody know the exact weight and dimensions of the original box? Thanks allot
Great review! What 3d scanner do you use? And do you recommend it?
Thank you! I used the Einscan pro 2X plus in the clip in this video. It does a great job but it’s pricey. The Einstar is another good option that is considerably less expensive.
Great Video! Which Software do you use for adding supports etc.?
Thank you! I use Lychee Slicer
What 3d scanner do you use?
@@JasonIdkau-pw8hi I used the Einscan Pro 2X Plus for the rocking chair. Lately I’ve been using the Creality Raptor.
@@ygk3d awesome. Thanks
Resin printing has its niche, for high dimensional accuracy and fine details in complex geometries that are inconvenient for FDM. It's also extraordinarily fast, especially for many small things or something flat. But yes, FDM is definitely still the go-to workhorse of printing.
Absolutely! The resin time equation is totally different. It's great for batch producing small parts.
My last employer had two Form Labs 2 machines.. I wasn't impressed by them at all.. though I think that could in part be due to how many people were using them.. or misusing them 🤔 I've got a CR-30, Kobra Max, I Mega and a Delta Kossel.. the Mega is my most reliable machine and that form lab experience is what has put me off adding resin to the list.. but I think this printer and its reviews have swayed me to buy...
Ps. Which 3d scanner were you using for that chair? I need to do the same, cheers.
@@slimplynth I’ve never worked with a Formlabs printer first hand but often times more expensive doesn’t mean better so what you’re saying makes sense. The GkTwo is on clearance right now because they’re coming out with the GkThree soon. The scanner I used was the Einscan Pro 2X Plus.
hey man did you get paid for this review? if so you need to be honest and have that communicated in the vid and description. you have obvious kkickback links in the description
One point you mentioned is that it could be better that the air filtration is not a closed loop system, that is wrong, you want to have multiple passes on the carbon, maybe designing a custom tray to hold carbon pellets could have a better result.
Mhh.. good point. Thanks for your insights!
Carbon doesn't remove anything but the scent. Run it through as many times as you want. You're just making a localized collection of the chemicals in a cheap carbon brick. If you do "use" those, at least have it outside the workplace.
anycubic are not bad , but if you a problem , that when you become your own tech, cause that won't help. all they do is ask for videos and if they don't like it they say sorry, thats it , even if its from the first day like the one i have in the back room received it and set it up and it did not work , it started and then a burning smell ,,,stopped working ,,,,,and have been fighting with them ever since, all i wanted was a printer that worked ...lol if this printer is worth it , they can have my money , and it looks great. and you video was good,,,,,,,,thank you
i will look into there printers'
Thanks for watching!
What 3d scanner do you have?
EinScan Pro 2X Plus
Interesting video as always 👍
Im no fan of rasin printing.
The epoxy resin is in my opinion only for industrial purpose, or on a highly temperature and toxin controlled environment.
And not being able to smell the rasin, is not the same as it is safe!
Try to measure the toxic molecules in the air, and you will be scared.
I still thing the industry havent made the resin/uv process mature enough for hobby usage.
Thanks Asger! I appreciate your viewership as always. Resin definitely requires some special considerations for safety. Good point about no smell not being the same as safe. Just think of carbon monoxide. No odour but it will kill you 😬
Ive had $2000+ zortrax printers before, and i still have to say elegoo are the best!
Elegoo is a great budget friendly option. I had the original Saturn at one point. Resin printers have come a long way since then, despite not being that long ago. I haven’t tested any of their newer offerings but they seem quite refined.
@@ygk3dI have a couple of OG Saturn's. I've recently upgraded to their 12k Saturn 3s and I took the plunge on a Saturn 3 ultra. Saturn 3 ultra wasn't worth the extra, but the Saturn 3s are worth a lot more than they're asking. I have the mono m3 Max and they don't even touch the Saturn's. For the price, they just work.
It's entirely not the printers fault, unless those Anycubics are duds. Hate to say it, but I've had so few failures in resin it's not even comparable to my years with FDM. I've burned out one screen so far and sometimes the linear rail gets sticky and needs cleaning, but overall, I've had a much, much easier time with resin.
Just found your channel. Excellent content - Another sub for you sir!
A smoother surface would create more suction
is gk2 better than saturn 4 ultra?
You get for what you pay, but I say get gkthree for size and if you have lots of money or get Saturn 4 ultra for budget
Fume cupboard neeeded
Resin printers are fantastic and have been for a long time. They have got slightly more user friendly yes but all of the issues you mentioned are problems caused by you or your settings.
Even the old machines have been extremely competent (I have ran an Etsy shop printing miniatures for years with multiple different printers)
Even the original Photons I had printing consistently with no issues, I would run a print. Clear the bed, run another print. It's extremely rare with resin printers that a failure is the printers fault.There isn't many variables to fail outside of your settings. That being said they're very different to FDM and I don't feel the experience translates well for either.
I think as long as you're willing to take a look at the issue, realise what's going wrong and why and rectify it. You'll have a strong workflow in no time and understand quickly why you're not getting the results you desire.
Great insights. I’m sure you’re right. Even the cheapest of resin printers can produce great results. The same is true of filament printers. The quality of life features of higher end models are just an added benefit that tends to make the technology more accessible to those that are less knowledgeable.
Well, their biggest weak point, their blocking point for many of us, are not the printers in themselves, but the resin (its toxic smell). If that was not an issue, everything else would be OK.
you seriously need to get ur PPE sorted for resin, its highly carcinogenic. put it in a weed tent tent that fully enclosed with air vents, and add an extractor fan to blow it out of the house or room
This doesn't look like it's worth the huge price premium... at least when you pay $1k for a Bambu printer you know you're getting what you paid for.
This is a great relatable video and I'm finding it at the perfect time. Recently upgraded my FDM machines to a couple Bambus and it's been such a game changer that I've been looking at my resin machines trying to figure out which one I should buy to feel like a comparable upgrade. Was considering the Sonic Mega 8k for this ability to do huge batches, but reliability and consistency is ultimately what matters most to me, so I can focus less of my time on maintenance, downtime, and failures. It's the perfect time because I also just had a Halot Mage's UV light die (flickering) I'm going to buy a couple of these bad boys with your ref link right now. Your channel really deserves to pop off in this space.
Thank you very much!
It not only sucks less, it has many advantages over fdm and has for years now, except no one on UA-cam cared because they lack the capacity to think outside what anyone on UA-cam has already done. There are a lot more interesting and functional things to print than worthless figurines.
Nice video! I will say resin printing still feels like too much for me in general, even if it can produce cool results. I don't have the space for all the tools, cleaning, and fume extraction. If I had one piece of advice for your channel, it would be to work on your intonation. Right now it sounds too much like you are reading off a slideshow in front of class. I mean this solely as constructive feedback. I would feel more engaged and less distracted if you sounded a bit more comfortable and excited. Act like you are reading the script to a friend or a younger relative you are hoping will get interested in 3D printing. Hope this helps. :)
Thanks for the feedback! If I’m understanding correctly: I sound too formal and not casual enough?
@@ygk3d Too... Flat? I hate to use potentially insulting terms. It's basically the difference between just reading a script and "speaking" a script. Or think of it like the difference between reading a play out loud versus memorizing it and performing. Watch a few political speeches online and see what makes one good and one bad. You have to have a conversation with your audience, not just say the words to them. Just to be clear, you're already doing a good job, I just think this is an area you could improve in to keep the audience more engaged. It's a skill most people gain over time doing content creation or public speaking. Maybe look up some videos on practicing intonation. I actually just watched one called "How to Practice Your Intonation For Expression" and I learned some things hahaha. Just listen to how she speaks. It's almost sing songy. Don't do that necessarily, don't be over the top, just treat the camera like a friend. Right now you are mostly using a very neutral tone. You should ideally sound interested in what you are saying. I used to have a problem where in my informational videos I would raise my tone at the end of sentences which made it sound like I was questioning everything I said. I still do that sometimes. Otherwise I speak too fast or slur words together. Your annunciation and clarity are actually fantastic, so it's just the tonality I notice. Again, totally no offense intended, your video quality is very high. I wouldn't mention anything if I thought you weren't serious about making good content. I've done a lot of public speaking so I enjoy sharing.
@@802Garage thank you very much for taking the time to write this all out. I’m all for constructive, actionable feedback. I reckon that’s what the other commenter was trying to say too what they wrote “nice informercial”, but that just leaves me feeling dejected rather than giving me something I can work with. I’ll definitely work on this in the future.
@@ygk3d I've just been lecturing other commenters about poorly given feedback and negativity just for the sake of it on Practical Prints' channel, so I feel responsibility to at least give helpful feedback hahaha. I think your best lines in this video are the opening like "I hate resin 3D printing." and "I strongly dislike it. It's messy, resin stinks, and my track record with 3D printers has been incredibly poor." Your tone gets a little too flat at the end of that second sentence and in between those lines. After that it starts to get more into the reading a script tone, but the "... better resin, better settings, or maybe a better operator." section picks up again too. I think it's the parts of the script you feel the most attached to and remember best that feel the most natural. Hopefully that personalizes it a bit. To be fair, a lot of people in nerdy spaces talk in a kind of dry way, like Aurora Tech for example. You can tell she really puts effort into emphasizing and giving energy though, and I think it helps. Anyways I think you totally get my point. Sometimes I like to talk through it to practice myself. Keep up the great work!
@@802Garage thank you for your service to the 3D printing community, honestly. I was just watching an older 3D Printing Nerd video about the Elegoo Giga and saw your contributions in the comment section there as well. It really means a lot to us creators to have an engaged audience. Especially those that help us grow without tearing us down. Kudos my friend.
Wen Vivedino Marathon? :D
Haha I asked politely for them to send me one! Hoping they make good on it so I can show it off here 😄
@@ygk3d Well ou are the reason I bought a troodon and I'm sure there are more :D
Nice infomercial
I’m not sure what makes this an infomercial... this is my honest experience. I had both good and bad things to say.
I've heard that wargamer resin is less smelly
This has paid for by uniformation written all over it
Can't wait for more people to harm their health with "new user friendly resin" units lmao. But but but the carbon filter, I can't *smell* the VOCs, surely they're gone.
Do you think carbon filters only work on the VOC you can smell? How would that work, exactly?
Seeing you holding a wet miniature above the sink makes me wonder if you really dispose of your waste water in a proper way. Remember that Resin is extremely toxic for the environment.
I was rinsing the IPA off. They had already been cleaned by this point. But good point about the importance of proper disposal!
Good to hear
You put fake progerss bars on your video and I"m not watching. Only falling for that once.
He didn’t add that UA-cam did
Resin is just not worth it…way too toxic and messy…maybe a future innovation will solve it but right now is just too dangerous
That’s totally fair. If you don’t need it, I wouldn’t advise getting into it. But there are many applications where it excels. Maybe we’ll see some non-toxic resins in the future… but until then, it’s important to follow all of the safety precautions.
nah, you wrong, it's the best tool for jewelry and boardgame miniatures there is, sure you need to wear gloves, respirator have hepa filtered air intake and be overall careful, but that's a right tool for a job
The longer people think this, the more money I make 😂 keep up with that mindset!
No.
@nickxx9729 it's not even close to being too dangerous honestly, but it is very annoying
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