Palladium From Catalytic Converters In 6 Minutes
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2021
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I bought those cats on eBay back in 2011 to make this video. I started the video once but had to stop because I failed miserably - lack of experience. I got ripped off because a few of them had already been leached and the platinum metals removed while they were still in the case - then they sold them to me. This was well before the “cat thief” craze of late was in full swing. I treat every drop of waste before disposal. Recovering precious metals from cats is definitely not for the hobbyist. If that red liquid gets on you then you’ll develope platinosis - symptoms may take months or even years to show up. It’s like leprosy except it’s incurable. - Наука та технологія
Amazing colour changes. Pour in rust coloured liquid to filter, brilliant green comes out. Then rust orange turns to deep sapphire blue and bright yellow salt comes out. Love it.
Magical: not only the chemical transformation but also the compression of two semesters of inorganic chemistry in 5:38 minutes with mostly household material. Thank you.
I say Monoatomic gold. (ORMES) 👽
LOL commies stealing catalytic converters - do this lol 😂 It's okay to do it in the kitchen 😂!
I am sure the FBI is going to raid your house after they have found something at Trump.
Give me some
Is that all he got out of all those cats ?
Wow that was so much more work then what I thought it would be. Dude really knows his stuff!!
well... its really easy all things considered... paladium is around 60-80us$ per gram and he got 6grams there, from what? looks like 3-4 catalic converters. now theres also platinum and rhodium in those converters (he didnt show how to extract those in this video tho) ... platinum i think is around 30-40us$ per gram and rhodium is like 500-700us$ per gram...
those catalic converters sell on the streets (and or internet) for like 100-1000each depending on the models and they usually contain if my memory is correct, somewhere between 2-8gram of platinum 1-5gram paladium and 0.5-3gram rhodium... something like that so if you do the maths... even if you do very conservative estimate and say that you have to pay atleast 300 for the cheapest//least metal rich converters (wich isnt the case, like i said if you know where to look, theres lowlife criminals who steals them and resell them for even less than 150-200 each lol) so lets say u pay 300 atleast and they contain only lets say 2gram of platinum 2 gram paladium and 1gram rhodium, thats 2x35+2x70+1x600= 810$ of metals...
I have a friend who buy some specific models of those from lowlifes, only the models with the highest concentration of platinum group metals in them, from specific cars (ive heard the ford-f series pickup trucks and the dodge rams series converters are the ones with like 4-5+gram of platinum and paladium and 2+gram rhodium in them...)
if my memories serves me right he pays something like 600-800 each for those and he told me that just the rhodium pays for that and then some... the platinum and paladium is the profit... it was something stupid like 600-800price he pays and 1500-2000+ is what he gets out of it... lol he says his bottleneck is finding more sellers hahaha
@@carmenmorissette3591 Lol they dont contain a gram of rhodium. It takes 200 converters to get 1 ounce of rhodium. The majority of the metal in a converter is Palladium. It takes about 7 mid grade converters to get an ounce of Palladium. So each converter should have 3-5 grams of palladium. The reason he had such a low yield was because the converters that he was using were all low grade garbage. Some converters have close to an ounce of Palladium in them alone. the converters that I saw in this video were mostly aftermarket and early 90s stuff.
@@carmenmorissette3591 your "friend" (or are talking about yourself) is a POS who is contributing to the vandalism and theft from hard working people. SMH
"I have a friend who buy some specific models of those from lowlifes, only the models with the highest concentration of platinum group metals in them, from specific cars "
I found a cat converter off a volvo sitting by the dumpster of a racing shop in my city.. its been rolling around in the bed of my truck ever since..
I want to make a ring out of the platinum and maybe sell the other metals.
Think its worth doing?
@@frankthewrench340
1 cat? Probably not enough.
That is an amazing process! I'm pretty sure I watched the full series but I definitely appreciate it more seeing the whole thing summarized like that! Amazing work (both video editing and refining)!
The chemical reactions where absolutely beautiful! Thanks for sharing!
Especially that blue... 🤪🤣😊
The palladium reactions from red to blue to yellow were fantastic to watch.
That was beautiful! It's amazing how that hydrochloric acid/oxidising agent dissolves not only gold but also a lot of its close relatives.
These "compressed" versions are AWESOME! It's like an instruction manual at high speed. Ignore the naysayers, I like these!
I do like his voice commentary style. It’s like his biometric signature which is in some ways addictive to listen to.
@@johnh8615 I'm one of those people that don't like watching long instructional videos. These are great!
I agree! Could use some sound tho
I agree, I'd just like to add that a voiceover would be better than the subs but probably more work I'm sure
Id say he just needs to combine the two a little. The long videos contain too much fluff and are frustratingly long and drawn out but these could do with being a it more detailed.
These are fun! I often go back and watch a whole series just to find one thing, like the low-karat gold constants. Now I can see the whole week worth of work in a couples minutes!
I love the long in-depth versions but I watch these too to kinda keep it all fresh and potent in my mind
More mileage from some older videos
You are the best Alchemist I have EVER seen. I had to watch this 4 times, to write all the processes down! Absolute Magic Gunny! Very Nice!
Wade
I bet you could watch it 40 times mire and still miss the "how not to be killed" part
such beautiful colours, I found a love of chemistry the first time i saw that process with a copper sulphate in school
This was an amazingly beautiful reaction
I've been lurking around the GRF for some time now. It's helped me with all kinds of great info. Your contributions to the forum have been incredible.
I'd like to thank you for this video and all of the videos you've posted. Recently, I mistakenly threw some "bad metals" in a batch to be inquarted. I think Probably brass and tin. A refiners nemesis. Boy did I have issues with filtration and fine gold powder. I feel I must re-inquart to get better results. An acid test of my dirty buttons shows a resistance at 22k but I'm not sure of the purity and I don't want to skew my calcs on the re-inquartation. I'd like to play it more on the safe side. If you could offer some advice It would be very much appreciated. Kind regards. Jeff
I get the chucks crumbling too powder when I do the jewelers scrap. If it’s too bad then I filter the gold powder, melt into a button, test the karat with acid and inquart from there. Usually solves it.
@@sreetips Thanks Sreetips.
Wow I must have missed the long version of this, looks awesome!
in think its about 2 years old
Hola a todos los que comenta si alguien me ayuda en español soy Paraguayo umilde joyero me gustaría recuperar de mi taller ago uno 10%anual y platino también tengo de mi Pulido espero respuesta gracias
Naysayers? I certainly hope there are no "Naysayers"! If there are, not worth your time explaining anything too them! This is true GOLD, to your followers! Just saying! I appreciate everything that you do!
Wade
How crazy cool was that! I used to think that chemistry was lame but it's actually really awesome and it just blows my mind how you know the steps to get to a certain result. I feel really stupid right now.
Don’t feel like that! I still can’t believe that I was able to pull it off. I just used the next logical step in the sequence based on my experience.
For those wondering, 1g of palladium can fetch anywhere between $60-70.
Loved the video, really clean cuts and no waffle! Subbed
Dam. So that little pebble is my weeks salary? 😵
my new catalytic converter was $4k wtf
It’s $32/gram right now, so about $200
@@ZhmiKnopa
$180. minus your chemicals, labware and labor.
It would be nice if you did a video on common mistakes made by the beginning refiners. And how to fix it. Like if I add too much nitric to my aqua Rega. And how to fix this. If I have to much free nitric in my cement silver solution. If my vacuum is too high on my pump. I'm sure you can think of many more. And I know you've covered lots of these in your videos. It would be nice to have a video dedicated to this topic. Thanks. And I absolutely love any content you put out. And would love to donate to you. Can you set a link for donations or let me know where the link is. Thanks again !
Best thing to do to avoid that is mix your chemicals properly. Use only known concentration chemicals, use proper graduated cylinders. If no graduated cylinders, use weight. Look up the density online. If you have a unknown volume of 2 acids mixed, theres no real good way to determine the concentration of each. Do it right the first time and avoid mistakes. If your vacuum is too high, then get a valve and a gauge to regulate the vacuum. Going to the extra expense to use the proper equipment and supplies saves not only time and money but is much safer overall. Your dealing with some pretty nasty chemicals, so if you dont know what your doing, might I suggest you either go to school or find something else to do. Your life and health could be in serious jeopardy otherwise. And please remember to dispose of your waste properly. This crap is all very toxic to the environment. Dont go pouring it down the drain or dumping it in the woods, stream or someones back yard.
Beginners shouldn't be trying this at home. Period.
@@joshua.snyder All beginners use drain cleaners at home. Your advise should be to get proper tools equipment and safety practises before attempting these experiments
@@toomuchdebt5669 Most won't use a fume hood, nor understand just how dangerous these acids, reagents, etc are, especially when they start mixing them, either. AR is nasty stuff.
Thanks for the the very thoughtful replies. All the information I was referring to is already in sreetips videos. Fyi. I was just giving him an idea for new content. Content that I think he could put together in a very informative and entertaining way.
Chemistry is so Fkn cool! I wish I had the mental capacity to utilize it. It’s so complex but so important. Well done !
The fantastic changes of color is spectacular this is definitely on of my favorites
I thought you were going for every colour available, every stage produced a beautiful vibrant colour.
Lots of pretty colors and solutions, but in the end, shiny palladium! (And Pt eventually) Chemistry is fascinating.
👍
yes! every colour of the rainbow on this one :D
Especially precious metals chemistry.😁
Awesome video. So much work for tiny piece of palladium from CAT.
If only it took 5 minutes to produce pure Palladium...lol. I watched the full version of this video. Another great watch!! Thank you.
it wasnt pure palladium... its mixed with platinum and rhodium... total value is maybe $400 at todays value. He probably spent more on chemicals and man hours than what he got out
Hope the thieves aren’t smart enough to do this themselves
Using their meth lab?
@@user-bu3zz2po6nlooks like the theives are smarter then you lmao their meth lab smh if they were cooking meth they wouldn’t be stealing cats that’s how their customers make their money🤣
I highly doubt they are plus is it worth all that effort for £150 worth of palladium 😂
@@Matt-ff3ck I can promise you they’re smarter then you lmao read that again and think this time😂
I Like the compressed clips but slow the video progression down just a little between steps so we can read your text and absorb your progress. Love your videos because there so detailed. As always good job
I noticed that during editing. The original videos are listed in the description block. Two parts and nearly 2.5 hours long.
did my comment from the last video about platinum inspire this masterpiece?? you’re the man
Short version remake of an older set of videos
@@sreetips crap! you’re the still the 🐐 though
I love anything from you !! But longer ones are better.
And 6 grams of palladium at .999 purity is $345.53 USD as of 9/29/2001
Nice job Sreetips!
Was that from 4 converters? No wonder my '99 jeep Cherokee lost it's the other night.
@@markcummins6571 man i hate thieves! Ugh….You know, I didn’t remember the count on how many he started with… good question actually. Maybe he’ll chime in.
About 10 or 12 plus some beads
This is why hardfacing welding rods are so expensive. I hunt catalytic converter thieves. Bounty isn't much but they make great fertilizer. Buzzards got to eat. Same with worms.
@@sreetips That was from 10 or 12 catalytic converters? So, at the spot price, roughly $30 from each cat? I guess there are other metals in there too, so the combination of metals makes it worthwhile for junkies to damage vehicles.
Great. The color changes in the solutions were interesting.
A lot of work for the value of the bead.
Thanks for sharing.
Getting High purity palladium is never quick and easy.
@@sreetips didn't mean to be critical, just observational.
You do incredible refining. 👍
No foul
The hardest part is getting away with the catalytic converter without getting caught.
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Chemistry is so AWESOME !
Thank you for this amazing video, bro !
I like the full length videos more, I don’t watch these to learn the chemistry behind it as I already know the chemistry behind it. I watch it as for cathartic/entertainment purposes. Don’t get me wrong still a cool video, but I like the full length ones. It’s just not the same without your narration. Keep it up sreetips, long time fan
I plan to continue my regular length videos and post these abbreviated versions also.
@@sreetips nice. Thanks for the reply sreetips, I know you’re a busy man these days. Keep it up.
Can you do a video showing how you got the catalytic converters out of your neighbors cars without waking them?
I mow my neighbor’s lawns. Why would I take converters from their cars? That don’t make sense.
@@sreetips joke
I was being facetious
@@sreetips mow my lawn for a catalytic converter
@@davidscollectibles8397 so the moral of the story is cut converters while the lawn mower is going?
Beautiful chemistry:)
These chemical reactions sure are fascinating to see. 👍🏻
to those who are wondering why he didnt crush the cat in order to speed up the process: its because theres no need to do so. the PGM only exist at the surface of the cat.
Yeah but I guess if you do it gets you high
Thanks for putting out a how to video to help out the thieves out there. It's an epidemic out here in Seattle and several other areas as well. I manage a storage facility with RV parking, and I've had three customers lose catalytic converter. Several other managers tell me the same. Thanks for helping out the thieves. I'm sure they appreciate it. No more taking the risk in being busted in the scrapyard when they haul in 80 converters.
Cats contain rhodium - $900 per gram. I don’t blame you for being upset. I would be too.
@@sreetips average cost to replace a catalytic converter is $1400 on a passenger car or truck. Insurance does not cover it. On a big motorhome, it can be up to $4000. Muffler shops out here are inscribing the cats with numbers and holding the records for police if they get stolen again. Other shops are building cages around them so they can't get stolen. It's a real mess.
Agree, the world is a dangerous and costly place to live.
Shoot the thieves
@@donnielemaster3667 they're to smart fro that. In this case they came in after hours after dark. Plus, it takes them about a minute, two minutes per cat. Never even heard of any of them getting caught.
I love this compressed version, I can watch the full project real quick without feeling like I missed anything
Thank you for all your hard work and showing the beauty along with the dangers of chemistry…
I do miss your commentary
I was just going to say the exact same thing. Sreetips does very good voice overs and I miss it from the video.
Links to full video in the description
Cool, look at that giant stack of stolen cat converters! You can always tell when palladium goes up because they suddenly disappear all over town.
When I originally did this video, catalytic converter theft wasn’t heard of much. It’s the rhodium ($600 per gram) that has influenced the increase in thefts.
I love how colorful chemistry can be. Filter out red precipitate and get a green solution. Precipitate out a blue solution and get yellow solids. Melt a black powder and get a silver button. I never knew 2hy people thought chemistry was boring!!
Wow man, this was cool as hell to watch.
Thanks for making the cliff's notes version.
Is it just me, or does anyone else still hear sreetips voice reading the captions even with no sound?
what do you recommend if too much peroxide is added? saturated ammonium chloride solution percipitates platinum but it instantly re dissolves into solution... i have started adding the AC directly to solution... should I possibly boil out excess water/peroxide?
I’ve been taught that one gram of metal dissolved in 20ml of solution is critical. The metal won’t precipitate with ammonium chloride properly unless this concentration is maintained. Platinum likes to precipitate from a concentrated solution. But too concentrated can cause problems also.
hello sir. after getting a black precipitate from ion exchange with zinc. next, do you wash the hcl, sir. and how much is the percentage of hcl, sir, thank you sir
I think 10% HCl
Amazing to watch. You are a modern day Alchemist. Thanks for your videos. Best wishes.
Luvin the speed vids, gonn6have to start watching earlier in day before I get lazy.
What was dry weight you started with if possible sir.
I can’t remember
What about Rhodium? Is there a way to tell if certain catalytic converters contain this specific precious catalyst?
I think they all do
Quite a process...any idea of ROA after total costs?
What an amazing process. Not for the faint hearted
If the addition of the palladium sponge that I have obtained from the HCL solution by adding potassium hydroxide(KOH) and inserting the sponge into ammonia, will it work like you did the solution sir? What about traces of nickel in the solution, does the ammonia just form the palladium sponge or does it go into the palladium sponge sir? I think it's easy to do and doesn't take time. Thanks sir, I am waiting for your answer. I really like all your videos,
I’ve never used potassium hydroxide.
I love your videos i hope to do this some day
Mr. Sreetips makes it look easy.
How do you extract the rhodium though? Or which part is this usually done in the extraction process for converters that do have them?
I’m not familiar with rhodium yet. I know that it’s in my stock pots. But I don’t know how to get it.
A brilliant and informative wee video.
hello
What is meant by reducing flame in the case of palladium melting?
Oxygen-hydrogen or oxygenoxygen-acetylene
It has several meaning. But what I’m referring to is pointing a flame at the graphite mold and keeping it there as I pour in the molten metal. This shield the metal from outside air coming in contact with the metal as it freezes in the mold.
This was a very colorful process lol.
Not to bad different I do like your video this will take some getting used to thank you two thumbs
I’ll continue with regular length videos. These are shorts from previous videos
It was pretty cool I don't know what you just did but I'm really impressed keep up the awesome work thank you I'm passing this on to some other mechanics we strip a lot of cars we got a lot of catalytic converters I don't think I can figure it out they might be able to Greg's pretty smart peace out
Terima kasih, ilmu yang sangat berguna untuk saya. Indonesia.👍👍👍🇮🇩
What to do w left over chemical waste? Can it be separated into it's original forms after it sits? What kind of setup for this?
Waste treatment
I really appreciate how you put all together so convenient for us. But sir... without all your usual explanations is not the same. I'd rather long version because your voice is the voice of the science. Thank you
Not to worry, I’m making a full length video right now. These shorts are from long past videos.
@@sreetips i knew it cuz I did watched that whole video! And I really appreciate your answer! You gave me hours and hours of entertaining Haha. By the way if I could ask... do you think is possible to refine sterling silver with hidrocloric acid or hidrocloric acid with hydrogen peroxide instead nitric?
No, hydrochloric forms a passive layer of silver chloride that acts like armor to protect the remaining metal from the acid.
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there's gotta be a way to do this in batches of a hundred or more for the start up scrap metal guys to counter act against the endless fuel expenses that seem to leave us with nothing at the end of the year. especially when metal yards drop the daller per ton to a low that pretty wipes us out
Most "scrap metal guys" would use this sort of knowledge to cook crystal meth so.....
I love the format! Anything you want to throw at us is well received mr. sreetips!
Nice work 👏
Ecxelente video amigo, disculpa tu sabes refinar Iridio ???
Platinum and palladium, no problem. The other four are a mystery to me.
Dude, you are good.
I been after the chemistry of rocks for a while, but I have some cats I want to do this with. How much were all the metal you got out of them? How many cats were used?
Allen, it’s was time consuming and I sold the metals. I can’t remember. These are not safe for the back yard refiner, especially someone new to refining.
@@sreetips I know you are right but I have been watching you and other and my lab is coming along. I have a large water tank of plastic that the farmers use to make a hood out of it and I have the beakers and most of the equipment I see you using. I have been in industry manufacturing of machines and homes every aspect chemicals have always been a part of it. I have full suits from the military for chemical biological warfare. Smelting, cupeling. I see the danger and wish you would explain more about setting up a lab but what can I say you are an inspiring teacher. Anything you do that I attempt I watched it many times and others before I do it. I had lab in school but it Biology. My Dad was in labs much of his life, kinda in the blood. I have found small amounts PGM I need to refine them from rocks. It is a very long and difficult process to separate them all out. If I can just concentrate them together I think for now will be enough and just get one of the more prominent out to pay for it. I you had a way I would show you pictures.
Besides power arc reactors, what does one even DO with palladium?
More than half the supply of palladium and its congener platinum is used in catalytic converters, which convert as much as 90% of the harmful gases in automobile exhaust (hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, and nitrogen dioxide) into less noxious substances (nitrogen, carbon dioxide and water vapor). Palladium is also used in electronics, dentistry, medicine, hydrogen purification, chemical applications, groundwater treatment, and jewelry. Palladium is a key component of fuel cells, which react hydrogen with oxygen to produce electricity, heat, and water. - source: Wikipedia.
I was curious why so much theft happening, on catalyst converters. I still don’t understand. Then to go through this process what do you do with the platinum once extracted? What’s the process used for? Shine some reason why this is even happening.
Raquel, the metals used in catalytic converters are rare and highly valuable. Extracting them is difficult and dangerous. Purifying to get high purity platinum group metals even more so. I did this strictly for the video. Only a hand full of people can do it. I did it with no formal training in chemistry or refining. I guess I did it to be a show-off. Sorry.
So what about recovery from class rings? I have both precium rings and polara plus.
Palladium is soluble in nitric acid. The only one of the six sister metals in the platinum group that is. So it can be recovered from class rings easily.
What is the best thing to use to cut the memory cards and electronic boards.
Probably a band saw
Catalytic converter thieves will become chemist's with these easy to follow instructions!
That’s doubtful
Wow. That was awesome. Very colourful and sophisticated! Keep em coming sreetips
How many catalytic converters did you have to process to get this 6 grams? I tried to count them but couldn’t get a good number.
I don’t remember. It was a long time ago.
what is done with the waste chemicals do you have a use or needs special disposal ?
Waste treatment
Amazing, does it worth in the end? So many chemicals and time for 6grs? Thabks
Yes!
Good Job!!!!
I just cannot believe how easy this was for you fella. Could you please tell me what is the average ratio of metals"Platinum, Palladium and other reactive metals" that are coated on the ceramic maytex ??? Thanks a bunch Sir.
Please understand, it wasn’t easy. I watch the full length version and still can’t believe that I was able to pull it off. The substrates have platinum, palladium and rhodium. Not sure of the portions
@@sreetips I will tell you fella. You pulled off a rabbit trick for sure. I know plenty of people who have tried and got nothing, period. You were able to recover metal. Do you think there is other recoverable metal left ?? What I do now is Mercedes and BMW converters supposedly have way more precious metals. The converters bring three times the scrap price over other converters. The junk yards always pest you for those brand converters. If you think of anything pertinent please respond Sir. Thanks for the info. You made my day fella making this happen. vf
I did this one time to make the video. I have not done it again for a good reason - it’s too dangerous. Refining platinum group metals is not something for the back-yard refiner, in my opinion. It’s nothing like gold and silver refining. Those are like a cookie recipe compared to platinum. There’s really no way to make a go of it unless you have the special equipment and knowledge required.
@@sreetips I will definitely heed the warning. I do not want to get platiosis poisoning. Will be cheaper and safer to just pass on the process. I tip my hat off to you for making this video happen for us all to learn from. Thanks again for your honesty and sincerity. Something that is way to uncommon theses days. Peace vf
Great Vid Kevin… 👍🇦🇺
Your out of your mind bro!! That's insane
sreetips = not normal!
Sreetips this is the first refining I have seen you do that the solution looks like pure death.
Good job
Okadar malzemeden 6 gr mi cikti yoksa fazlami cikiyor
Would this be the best way to avoid having a non ferrous metal permit/taking it to a scrap yard and having the government know every detail about how you obtained said catalytic converters? I don't need my cats for my car anymore but you have to give the scrap yard the vin along with an order of repair stating the cats have been replaced. I have two perfectly good cats that are taking up space that I can't get rid of. Would this method help me avoid the nonsense I would have to go through just to get some extra cash? Would it yield more of a profit having the product be a pure ingot?
Probably not. Getting the metals is difficult and dangerous. I did it this one time just to make the video.
What about recovery of the rhodium (if there was any to recover)?
It’s in there. But I don’t know how to get it.
How does one refine a palladium alloy containing 20% Selenium, 45% silver and the rest Pd?
Good one - I’d guess I’d try nitric and DMG
Thanks for the video's warning.
I've pasted the below:-
'Platinosis is a disease caused, not by metallic platinum, but usually by its complex salts, mainly chloroplatinates. The cutaneous and respiratory allergic manifestations elicited by these salts affect mainly workmen in platinum refining workshops'.
At the time of writing that is 385 dollars worth of palladium. How much did the chemicals cost and how many hours would you say this took?
I don’t know. I don’t track expenses for each batch. This is my hobby
About how much cost is in the chemicals you need for this? How about disposal of the used chemicals?
It’s not worth it. Too dangerous
Hello, I have 300 catalysts, if a study is done, how much will the amount of palladium, rhodium be?
I’m not too sure. I’ve only done it this one time.
This is a badass video 👌
How do you discard all the used chemicals after using it?
Waste treatment
How do you know when all PGM: s are dissolved in those 5 gallon buckets?
Stannous test
The catalyst component of a catalytic converter is usually platinum (Pt), along with palladium (Pd), and rhodium (Rh). All three of these platinum group metals, or PGMs, are extremely rare but have a broad range of applications in addition to catalytic converters.
6 grams of Palladium, what sreetips extracted in the video, @ max purity is roughly $210-220 at current rates according to WolframAlpha. Doesn't seem worth it (trying to empathize with catcon thieves and their buyers' logic) unless you've got a SERIOUS operation churning out tons of Palladium.
Thanks
And after all that work, how much does that palladium sell for and who do you sell it to?
I can’t remember the price. And I think I sold it on my eBay site.
What do you do with the used chemical slurry?
Waste treatment
Alot more yield than I expected