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Thank you for the review and great job in keeping to key points across the board. The one thing about the Giant Loop bag is a continuos bag that you can fill in in the "shoulder" area of the bag instead of the gap that you find with MM and Tusk bags. What I can think of that would make this review better would have taken video from the front of the bike, back of the bike and top as well as with you sitting on the bike, even perhaps with a pillion so we could have gotten a visual of the width of the bags. The other thing that I think would have been relevant is having a test kit, in other words, same things you would have for a weekend camping trip going in each bag, the way you would pack each bag and weight of each bag loaded and unloaded. Reviews of the larger bags would be great for people like me that intend to travel internationally on their bike. Thank you for the review, appreciated!!
My vote is more comparison videos. Add in the Rhinowalk and any other cheaper brands as well. I have Great Basin, Sedici and the Rhinowalk have been the sweet spot for price and space motocamping for me
I have Rhinowalk panniers too, they have stood up to abuse, over thousands of miles, and I remain very happy with them. Great value for the money spent
I ran the Tusk on a 2 month trip. The keys was using the Gnoblin from Msoko to mount it. Works great ! The reality is you really just need a smaller bag.. Sorry!
I used the tusk Olympus rack type set ups for a trip to Baja and then to Copper Canyon. They are heavy but very tough, I went down 3 times in Copper Canyon and 2 times in Baja there was no damage to the bags. I did break one of the plastic D rings on the bag but I just replaced it with a carabiner it was easier than dealing with Rocky Mountain ATV . They have good customer service but sometimes it’s a pain because of the process. The plastic buckles and D rings are the only week points on the tusk bags.
I have the Mosko 80L Rackless setup. My biggest beef is that the holsters or the waterproof bags are not sized properly. If I were at the design meeting I would have lobbied for slightly larger diameter holsters so the dry bags would fit within when stuffed and still be called 80L system. The alternative to that would be a smaller diameter waterproof bag. The problem may not be so bad for camping but for motel use they are a PITA because you will need to put the empty waterproof bag in the holster then start stuffing in your items one at a time for each side. You can't slide a moderately stuffed waterproof bag in a holster no matter how hard you tug on the hand hold sewn onto the waterproof bag. In fact you may roll the bike off the side stand as my buddy did trying to get the right side put in. As mentioned about the 40L system they are heavy. Other than that the system is robust.
@@coarsegoldkid agreed with my Mosko 80 as well. It is much better when they are dusty and sandy because it makes them slide in easier, but even then it’s entirely possible to stuff the bags too full to fit in. When I do pack off the bike I’ll leave the top open or just rolled down once, it lets things shift around when inserting into the holsters.
Do you loosen the side straps on the holster before inserting the full dry bag? I’ve never had this problem but I loosen the holsters insert the full dry bag and tighten the holsters back up around the dry bags.
Have the Mosko Reckless 10 & 40 and the inner bag material gage is too thick to conform to the bottom when inserted. I just swap out the Mosko inner bag for a thinner gage Sea to Summit dry bag when I need to maximize storage volume.
I recently converted from Giant Loop to a Mosko Moto Reckless 80, and absolutely glad I did. I don't find it the least bit "complicated", and it is so much more stable ie less floppy, than the GL, there's no comparison. For rough terrain, it's just a better design. Pretty easy to pack once you have a system that works for you. I do cook gear/food on one side, clothes/tools on the other, and tent/sleeping bag up top. If you're hoteling it, pop the whole works off the Knoblin and go. I love it.
I have the Reckless 80 as well. I would say there's not much point in the R40 because it is only slight cheaper and my R80 fits my small CRF300 as well as my big bike.
Great video and comparison. I rode the COBDR on a FE350 with the tusk set up and I was nicknamed "floppy bags" for most of the trip. They worked, got me out into the mountains and I had a great time but a big, loaded drybag up high was not stable or helpful for aggressive riding. A year later, I then rode the AZBDR on the same FE350 with the Giantloop set up and had a much smooth experience. More gear in the legs = less weight up high. I even rode some proper marked single track with full camping gear and had no problems. I used the smaller GL dry bag for my sleeping bag only under the beaver tail, really happy with the set up. I considered the mosko bags but for the money, they seemed not worth it. The large legs of the GL Coyote, and the corners you get where the legs and the top meet make it super easy to pack and hold a ton of bulky gear!
Thank you for a very thorough and informative video. The choice of luggage bags really depends on the type of journey you are undertaking. Personally I use a rack configuration using the Kreiga 42 litre bags and a Touratek top box. My motorcycle is a KTM 790 Adventure R (2019). In terms of my experience I have ridden from Sydney (Australia) to London (2019) and from LA to Santiago Chile (2023) unsupported and on my own. So, why choose this setup? 1) when travelling solo you need to have what I call a safe to store electronic equipment and vital documents. The top box is perfect in my experience. Yes, the top box raises the centre of gravity but it’s worth it. 2) anti theft - the Keiga soft panniers are waterproof and extremely resilient. I use lockable straps which fit around the bags. Again when you are travelling solo and you choose to stop to eat, hike or visit attractions you are assured that your possessions are secure as possible. One other must have is an alarmable disc lock. During my travels I have always, if possible, avoided street parking. I trust this comment is useful.
Yes, more comparisons! Well done, Ben. I appreciate you giving your overall review with a non biased stance. Your time with G. Loop seemed insignificant when it came down to your downright honesty of these three product's functionality. Your aim to give a well-rounded shakedown for all different types of riding and moto camper's skill and experience levels shines through. Your honesty is appreciated and apparent... regardless of your affiliations with all of these fine companies and those who run them. I run a Reckless 40 with the stinger 22. It's bulletproof and tight on the bike but it has honed what I pack down to a minimalist set up. Forcing me to keep the weight down....which works out on my very lightweight crf230f converted adventure machine. Great review!
The Coyote is my favorite 40l bag by far it packs amazing. the only improvement it needs is optional straps on the back of the back for strapping it to the rear of the tail rack... that would prevent it from pulling forward on your epic adventures. Great review as always ✌️
Mosko Moto got a customer for life from me - after the Colorado BDR my Reckless 80 side and top bag were stolen. I called Mosko kind of heartbroken and asked if I could order just the dry bags and told her what happened. They made a warranty check for me and sold me the replacements for basically half price.
I love the comparison on the luggage options. I am definitely biased, I have used both the Mosko Moto panniers and the rackless system and I love both. I tried Tusk once and I just couldn't enjoy it. At first the Mosko bags were a little confusing and frustrating with the buckles and sinching everything down but I have been using them reguarly for the past 2 years and I can do it in my sleep. They definitely cost a arm and a leg but rightfully so, you can definitely see the quality in the product.
you're a freakin' mind reader, sir. I was just looking at what I was going to get myself in Jan, after recovering from the holidays. Tusk it is. I really appreciate these gear reviews! Thank you!
I used the giant loop coyote on a Vic High country trip and a Cape York trip in Australia 🇦🇺. Bag was mounted to my SWM rs500. I was able to carry all camping and cooking gear for several days off road. An absolute dream to ride with this set-up. Distributed the heavy weight well and was hardly noticeable. Very robust and compact on the bike.
Two years ago, I bought a motocamping luggage setup and managed to score a Mosko R40 system on sale for about $480. I had also been considering the Kriega OS Base with two 18L side bags, but ultimately chose the Mosko R40. Before that, I had been using a single 40L Osah dry duffel bag strapped to the rear rack, which worked fine for the time but wasn't ideal. As for my experience with the Mosko setup: since I already had a fairly compact kit, the R40 has worked well for me. My sleeping bag isn't the smallest-it’s a 15-degree bag, mostly down, from Cabela’s. In the two side bags, I can fit the sleeping bag, a 1-person backpacking tent, a Helinox chair, sleeping pad, collapsable table (travel bird), pillow, and a few extras like a pump. The non-detachable auxiliary pockets on my model are perfect for my tool roll, spare tube, and camp shoes. Between the top bag and my backpack, I can squeeze in clothes, my CPAP and battery, cookware (like a collapsible X-Pot and cup), food, a speaker, tiny pump, and even 4 beers. I DID eventually get the 22L singer top bag to expand the setup, and i think it is prob required for anything longer than a 1 or 2 day trip. Honestly, I’m not sure I’d be able to afford the Mosko R40 setup now-it’s pretty expensive. But I do love it, even though there’s definitely a bit of a learning curve when it comes to strapping everything down properly. It’s a little complicated, but once you figure out the right order of operations, everything stays secure. I haven’t used Giant Loop horseshoe bags, but I run the new V3 Mojavis on all my day rides, and those are by far the best setup I’ve used. Thats my 3 cents!
I used the Great Basin v1 for about 8 years. I'm a Mosko convert. I've run the Reckless 80 for a couple years. The nice thing about the Mosko is the flexibility if you want to hotel it, you don't have a lot of extra flappy bag like the Great Basin. You can push the bags in the holsters down and use no top bag. And of course the features are nice like the pods. I also attach a large water bottle holster to the molle straps where I can get to it easily. I just bought the small Nelson Rigg bags for dual sport day trips and I'm happy with that so far, too. It is really cheap and solid if you need a light dual sport setup.
Rhinowalk rear 40-60 liter bag and their 44 liter saddle bags have been solid. They’re both around 100$ and are great budget option. I’m also an Oregonian and new to the hobby. These bags are more in my price range (I’m 22 just getting into the hobby and wanted to keep a low budget). They match perfectly with my used DRZ400s, and I’m really happy with them. I daily my bike. Would love to see a review! P.S. I bought the Rocky Mountain gear when I saw you posted them on sale and they have been absolutely phenomenal in this rainy weather, thank you! Cheers from lake Oswego
I have done 12K street miles with the Amazon copy, Wild Heart, 55 L dry bag as my "all things camping" bag with no issues. As a 95% street guy, most of my bikes have hard panier so my mix is different but nice to have one bag to carry into (often) the campsite and all I have to go back to the bike for is the growler of beer until morning.
@@Rigatonispaghettioly Wow, you carry a lot of stuff! I have the Rhinowalk 27 liter saddle bags, along with a small top case (it's actually an inexpensive plastic toolbox) - together, they provide just enough space for all my camping gear, tools, clothing, etc. Groceries are a bit of a challenge, but whenever possible I buy food for one day at a time and strap that down to the rear seat. I find the bike is so much easier to ride offroad when keeping the weight to a minimum.
@@alozborne just because I have all the capacity doesn’t mean I load it down, but having the option is nice. I daily my bike so the extra storage has been clutch. I’ll get Groceries n stuff on the bike too. But for Moto camping I use my backpacking kit plus some tools n motorcycle stuff. My backpacking bag is 55liter and fits my kit pretty good so tbh I could probably just use the top case for motocamping. Backpacking kit weighs about 20-24lbs all in w food and water.
This is helpful and interesting for me personally. Obviously it is most useful when I’m searching for the items being reviewed. I did my digging and got the Tusk setup and added a separate dry bag on top - that was almost necessary for function. The leg bags are quite tight, same choke point you described. It’s on a ‘22 KLR and I’ve only put ~2000 miles on them (some NEBDR, mostly on road) and they’re been great and totally dry with the bags. Finally, props on the previous video responding to comments! Your honesty is always appreciated and as a result of your mindset (let’s give it a try & I’m not a racer) I’ve taken a lot of comfort in my abilities and desires. It’s fine if I only do a section of the BDR at a time. Just go, do it. Stop watching videos and go!
This was great. I'm setting up my first DRZ and would love a comparison of the bigger bags too. Really appreciate that you use your stuff, the "review" isn't just a feature overview, but real experience in riding conditions.
Great timing, I was looking at reckless set up. I’ve always used metal panniers and decided to go reckless on my new bike. I was looking at the Tusk set up but after this video I’m going with the Great Basin. Lots of good info. I like basic and easy to pack. Looks like giant loop is the was to go. I’ve had their tank bag on for many years. The map pocket has deteriorated, but the bad is still functional. Thanks for the comparison 🎉
One thing that might have been added regarding the "Some Assembly Required" statement. I have currently have the Mosko R40. The assembly required lets you adjust how wide the side bags will be apart are depending on what model of bike (dual sport or adventure) you are mounting your luggage to. A dual sport bike is much narrower than an adventure bike. The R40 and would guess the Tusk bags have a narrow and a wide set of holes that you use for the best fit to the bike. Thanks Dork, nice comparison and always enjoy your vids. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, Ben for comparing both three set ups. I have the Tusk bags on my Honda CRF 250 L. I do not go camping, but I do use them for day trips and they take everything I need and yes, please add some more luggage videos as they come out with new gear all the time, thank you. Looking forward to your next video.
Chewie!!!! Thanks for the video, I’ve got the Mosko Reckless 80 and GL Coyote. To me the GL is easier to pack and feels like it holds more than the numbers say. The Mosko with multiple places to stash stuff is just harder to pack and feels less efficient. The Mosko is also really heavy. Mosko feels a bit sturdier but I haven’t been able to hurt my GL stuff, so I don’t know that one or the other is tougher.
I just bought a 23 leftover Triumph Tiger GT Explorer. I always look at your videos for helpful information. I've put my Tusk setup from my Himalayan I traded in on to my new Bike. They fit well, look good and have more than enough room for me to travel . I don't camp unless it has cabins. No room for tent and sleeping bags. That said, I would camp if I had panier setups. Comparing the soft paniers to the factory Givi Paniers. I'm looking at the Trekker setup for the durability. I'm glad I got the Tusk setup and I just bought a SW MOTOTECH City WP tank bag . It's actually bigger than I thought. I was sent the type you have to drill 4 holes and install the bracket on the fuel filler without the magnetic brackets. It was easy to put together if you have a good set of tools
I like your categorization of which bags fit with riding approaches/experience/budget - I ran Tusk Excursion on 500 with a super ultralight approach on pretty demanding (harder than BDR) trails and it worked fine. I now have an 890 with 80L Mosko set up and absolutely love it - like you mentioned - the 40L is not "really" enough for multi-day moto camping with any sort of "luxury" - Thanks for the great run down!
I have tried a couple bag setups. One was a cheap amazon setup 24 + 24 +40 top bag to do as you said to try it out. The second was the GL Great basin. The GL was better built and I think I could get more in because of how they wrap around. The great basin not great to get in and out unless you know what you might want and pack to the back which is what I did. I did this a a 2020 CRF250L, yea it was overloaded but never complained (that gets fixed soon!). The problem I have with this bike is that the muffler stick way the heck out and I thing the coyote would be better . You have stated the coyote points more forward like the other two in this review and might work better on this CRF250. That being said I hit Mosko's dirty bird sale and picked up their 80L paniers and a rack. The Mosko Moto stuff is probably the most rugged but it is heavy and regular price is really high. Love to ride with you sometime maybe some day, you seem to be the most fun guy out there lol. Thanks for the reviews! Chuck
Thanks, good comparison. I've been using ENDURISTAN Blizzard XL saddle bags and Tornado M top bag for the last few years for long traveling (all Africa and South America). I can fit camping gear on the side, and my stuff in the top bag. All waterproof.
I like the comparison content. Even though I don't plan to shell out that kind of money on gear anytime soon, it is good to know what to look for, what works and what doesn't, and all the little bits of insight you throw into your videos. Riding and camping in Texas is vastly different from the pacific northwest, but it is nice to see the differences.
Dork in the Road I think you and Ian of BRM have the best reviews by far. Enjoyed the review even though I have been using the Rhinowalks on my Norden 901 and I think they work great at a fraction of the cost. I am a weight weanie and try to avoid placing weight on the rear rack of the bike, I like to keep the weight close to the center of gravity. That is doable if I am hoteling it in Baja but not when camping. When I am doing a lot of off road travel I don't like all the camping weight/gear, it compromises my enjoyment of riding the motorcycle too much. That extra weight is not a problem when on pavement and otherwise I like camping. I hope you continue to review gear and luggage options. I appreciate your sense of humor.
yes i liked the comparison video. I would like to see more of this kind of video. Often people who are not in the gear retail industry, have no way to get out and see the different products. It would also be great to see the Wolfman, and the Green Chile setup in action
I have the Mosko Reckless 80 and your review is spot on . They are the Gold standard but easy access is not happening, a bigger top bag is necessary for long trips. These bags have proven to be almost bomb proof
Great comparison on luggage. I myself am using Giant Loop Mojave bags, bar bag, and just picked up there larger tank bag (to try out this coming spring for carrying camera gear). They have done well for me for day use for the last two years (sans the new tank bag that I have yet to try). On a slightly different topic I would love to see some comparisons of backpacks for us larger girth individuals that ride. To include hydro backpacks or just storage variety for driving too and from work.
Thanks for the luggage reviews. As a recently retired mid-sixties guy just getting into motorcycle riding, and specifically ADV, all of your reviews are priceless. Confucius says that of the ways to attain wisdom, experience is the bitterest. So, much better for me to learn from yours. I’m turning a CRF 300L into a light adventure bike for fun and to escape the wife occasionally, and these three systems are all in the running. I was wondering about your opinion on soft luggage side racks, specifically offerings from PMR, Adventure Spec or Tusk. They would seem to add to bike protection and bag stability, but I do not see them used often. Not asking about pannier racks. Again, really enjoy your reviews, they are helpful.
I was very interested in what you had to say about the Tusk Excursion side bags as I used them this past summer on a 3 month moto camping trip in Europe. I’m glad you mentioned the restrictive webbing collar near the top of the bags as that was my main gripe with these bags. The dry bag liners that come with the bags are slightly tapered from top to bottom which is a great idea to help get them into and out of the panniers but because of the restrictive top webbing, you have to under-stuff the liners to get them to go down into the bags so you are left with wasted space between the two bag layers. You can basically fit half a baguette into the wasted space so I would save a couple of waterproof items to stuff into the voids after the dry bags went in. Of course when you want to pull the liners out again you have to pull the additional loose items out first so please TUSK, if you’re reading this, make that top webbing longer so the opening is wider which would match the shape of the liners and that would be awesome. I did like the beaver tail which I found to be well designed with lots of strapping options and it also has a small storage pouch for a First Aid kit or what have you. One other small gripe is that the strap locks for the bag lower anchor points slip a bit and have to be periodically re-tightened. Interestingly the strap locks for the TUSK tank bags have the same problem. In answer to your question at the end, yes please to do more reviews on luggage especially the soft luggage.
I went in the inside of the bag and used a razor to take some of the stitch out that is a part of the restrictive webbing collar. It did make a difference but if Tusk was listening it would be a huge improvement if they added some length or better yet an elastic collar.
First off, thank you for doing this video. For sure do the comparison videos, with a shot of all the gear that is to go in. This kind of content is important as most of us have no place to go physically compare these options. I’ve been in analysis paralysis for a while now when it comes to what will be my (ahem) second luggage purchase. I’m looking forward to your next camping adventure video as well, I think maybe it’s been awhile since y’all have cut up around a fire. 😊
Giant Loop Moto has done a great job of building simple and reliable moto luggage. We use their bags here in Patagonia year after year of hard riding and have had minimal failures. Its solid for sure.
Bought a 21 Bros product a few years ago based on Pavlin's (Motorcycle Adventures channel) recommendation. It was significantly less expensive than the coyote and genuinely waterproof. Shipping took a while, but it was well worth it.
I have the Mosko Reckless 80 that I bought during the previous Black Friday sale and I love it. It is indeed a bit of a process to setup and it didn't seem to hold as much as I thought it would but I loved how secure it was. 4,500 mile trip this summer from Calgary Canada down through Portland, northern California, Crater Lake, etc and I barely could tell it was there. It never swayed or moved and the only way I could tell it was there is that I had a bit of a backrest. I am a fan of Mosko Moto and have a number of their products and I've been very happy with all of them and to me they are worth the price. That said I've never tried the Giant Loop, Tusk, or any other rackless bags so I appreciate the comparison. I did look at the Tusk and Giant Loop stuff before buying the Mosko stuff but with the sale the price differential wasn't as much as normal and I just found the Giant Loop to be way too ugly to seriously consider
I have used about a dozen different setups over the years, I now have both the Coyote and Great Basin from Giant Loop and that's all I have used for ADV in the last couple years. Weight and capacity are the primary reasons.
Any advice on best gear for a Fly & Ride? Looking for something that will work well as a carry-on and personal bag for a 12 day trip. Will not be checking any luggage.
Just added the Mosko Moto Reckless 80 for my 790 Adventure! I have an ultralight camping setup that weighs around 5lbs (tent,sleeping pad,pillow, chair). And packs real small!
I went with the Tusk bags based on the price point and accessories. I only take a few rides every year but they are rough and mostly off road. I'm more than happy. I've hit the ground a few times and the bags hold up.
Great video. I wish you had done this last year before I purchased my Mosko system. I think I would have gone with the Giant Loop. I find, as you did, that the Mosko system is a bit fiddley, and too complicated. It is a good system, but pricey. I also appreciate that your videos are succinct, and presented well, as good english teacher should.
The Mosko Moto bags are great for people with a system. I don’t like jamming everything in one bag, I like everything in its place for easy access, which is the valuable on long trips. The harness is in pieces so it’s easy to pack into a duffle for plane trips. But as you put it, not everyone needs all of the features. It’s great to have other options because I have other friends who like to pack all in one bag.
Great comparison. I went with the Tusk and broke a strap as well. Just learned not to "muscle" it. Great setup for me as I don't put in a lot of over night excursions. Easy to mount and dismount.
I have a set of Tusk bags I used for my old Royal Enfield Himalayan. I just installed them on my brand new 23 Triumph 1200 Tiger GT Explorer I bought on a clearance sale for $16900. Yes, a $24k+ manufacturing retail price bike for less than $17k. I want a tank bag since I need a fuel cap lock type and looking at a SW Mototech. I'm trying to go through your channel. I do this often. Love the channel
Great comparison info! I have the MM Revolver 80L with the 2 AuxPox. Got it for its reputation of bulletproof durability and the beaver tail. The beaver tail is super useful. Ben is spot on regarding actual capacity being limited in these multi bag set ups. You will travel light -even with an 80L kit. The MM value proposition is based on quality and durability. Case materials, Buckles and straps are heavy duty. And outrageously expensive. Regardless of what kit you use I encourage you to zip tie rolled up straps into the keeper that comes with the kit. An unraveled strap can cause big problems.
I ran the tusk on the ORBDR this last summer and it worked great. All of my camp went into the 22l top bag and hung my water and fuel off each side. The luggage worked good and is priced fairly. Mosko moto is just crazy when it comes to price and I personally won’t buy their products. I do own a giant loop tank bag and really like it and I would consider their luggage. Thank you for the comparison. 👍🏻
Hey Ben, definitely more comparison videos! Also in this video, it was a little hard to hear you when your pitch tapered off, then bam a new sentence was loud again lol.. just a note...love all your stuff! I have mostly used excellent mosko items.. amazing quality but I too feel I need to pack exactly the same way.. and my big sleeping bag struggles in the side panniers as well as the large 40 litre duffle .. strange.. if you have bulk items, a bit tough agreed... recently sold the nomax tank bag, I prefer a open style tank bag.. I recent.y purchased a few possible pouches from GL love these.. and obsessed with the most underrated tank pockets from GL..love those too. I also purchased super cheap crash bar bags from Amazon they are excellent for the price..
Cool. Now do a video with a detachable system with a base like the kriega OS-base or Green Chilie soft racks. I have the Mosko R80 kit and love it. You busting the buckle on camera here (and good on you for not hiding that) reinforces that Mosko is a solid kit for me. Mine has been bomb proof for big bike ADV and road touring. I think you undersell the difference in "beaver tail" features here. I think the panel on the Mosko kit is really useful. Makes getting at smaller items much easier but is still flexible enough to hold large items too. The beaver tail sold the Mosko kit for me. At the same time the beaver tail is the biggest drawback. Mostly in that while I can detach the tail and run with just the legs, that isn't how I want to ride. I want the opposite; to ride to camp, drop the side legs and ride with just the tail with or without a top-bag for a day ride or grocery run. You can drop the side bags, but the holsters are permanently part of the kit. Same story with the 40's. This has me looking at something like the Kriega or Green Chilie next time around.
I run the Kriega setup and love it. You get a great quality set of luggage and bags that can be swapped on the OS-Base, giving you the most flexibility for any trip with a good amount of bag configurations. You can use any one of the OS bag sizes you'd like - they come in 18, 12 and 6 liters sizes, which you can mix and match as needed and strap onto the base and/or crashbars - you can also complement with the expandable 28-40 liters rackpack if you need extra space. It is solid too, I've dropped and dragged the bike multiple times and for multiple seasons on them, and the only damage I've had is one cracked buckle tab, the buckle still works as it should. They are also completely waterproof and easy to mount/dismount for hotel stops, I highly recommend!
I have one kislux bag I got in 2019, it's the LV white catogram speedy. It's counter quality and it has a nice honey patina now, so the leather is real. I think whatever makes you happy go for it. I've seen LV with plastic leather and blood red glaze...
yes, the buckle system on the Mosko is a bit daunting at first. I have the Back country 35L and the Rackless 40. I regretted the purchase at first because it was so involved getting in them. After using them it is now a non issue. I am a minimalist and the rackless 40 was just perfect for my UTBDR trip this year. I was thinking about the Coyote, but I will hit up a hotel and getting them on and off is way more involved than Mosko. Mosko is very pricey, buy once cry once is spot on for me in the luggage catagory. I have also used SW Motech and the semi hard bags. Now those are awesome and If i sell my mosko that's what I'm getting next. The quick connect/disconnect is very solid and the racks are more eye pleasing than the normal tubular racks. Great vid, thanks for the different perspective and sharing your knowledge.
I have the Tusk Excursion with the larger top bag mounted to my BETA 500RS,works great for me. Built great, has the waterproof inner bags,and priced right. I would recommend it.
If anyone is looking at or likes the Giant Loop please checkout the AltRider Hemisphere Rackless set up. I LOVE LOVE LOVE that luggage system. It worked very well for me on my UTBDR and COBDR trip. I also just let the holster system live on the bike year around so I never have to fuss with it!
Thank you for the competent review! I would love to see a review of the larger versions from these brands. Tbh i think the 40L is a size that's neither here nor there, overkill for daytrips and not enough for any extended trip.
I want the Mosko. About to get Tusk for the Honda dual sports. Gonna get Mosko for the ADV bike when I have more time to take off and motocamp more. Nice job Dork! And YES we do care about luggage BUT I am literally about to buy my first after just using the ones that came with my Norden Expedition and honestly you told me about all I need to know comparing these sizes. That being said I’d still watch any others you make.👍🏼 😆 🏍️💨
I wish I could have seen this video about a year ago before I bought a mosko moto 40L bag set. I have a slightly smaller packed sleeping bag than you show here, but I am still not really able to fit it in the mosko bags. Luckily I have a rolltop duffel that fits on the top replacing the smaller mosko top bag that I can fit my sleeping bag and tarp, but then the total packed size of my gear is larger than I had wanted. I do still like the bag set up, and it was nice to be able to configure it small when I had my DR350 and now slightly wider now that I have a KTM390 Adventure (in the mentioned assembly step there are two sets of holes for the "legs" of the bag bases to allow it to fit dual sports and adventure bike seat widths equally well), so it fits the bikes well and looks cool doing it. But its got me looking for smaller sleeping setups or needing to add additional storage in a way that the giant loop bag might not have. So I ended up with a more expensive option that is also encouraging me to spend more money replacing gear that's still perfectly functional.
I'd like to see more, but I'd also like to see you branch out from the big three and look at Rhino, Shad and other options. I know the Shads are Giant Loop priced, but the Rhinos are a budget option.
@GregLanz I have a tail bag that's 30L and I like it so far.... but it's the first bag I've used that has a lining for waterproofing. IDK how it compares to the others like Krieger or Seidi.
Thanks for the comparison Dork! I have two Mosko systems. Love them both. BTW… that sleeping bag looks more like a car camping bag… not a true backpacking bag 👈🏼😁
The Green Chili Hardcore Enduro set up for me. I got one of the older ones that have the tire irons with it. I can run whatever bag I want depending on the ride.
Hey! So the Tusk bags are pretty decent in my experience. I agree with you on them being an entry level bag, however..... I use the Tusk Traverse bags for my EDC essentials (tool kit, repair kit, spare tube, TP, and a chair). Those bags are I think 8L each. I have roughly 9000kms with them on my bike (maybe 6000 offroad). They have taken a few spills too. Back to the Excursion bags. I have not busted any buckles, but I've also devised a method where it actually bolts to my tail rack, the normal side straps go to my footpegs. It mounts rock solid. Everything else is true. I hate the way the roll top and the base of the bags are connected, it makes it very restrictive on what can actually be placed into the bag. I find that the stiffness also hinders the packability. They were roughly $600 CAD (not quite). They were what I purchased for my first motorcycle (DRZ 400S) 2 years ago. So a total newb, both to motorcycles and everything that goes with it. That is all. Merry Christmas!
I have the Tusk set up. I ended up getting a Medium top bag so I have plenty of room. I have been very happy with the quality and performance. The side bags are a challenge getting my sleeping bag and tent in but it works fine. I think the Tusk is a good value to get started with. I have always wanted the Giant Loop set up and may go with that next time.
Great video. Yes, more comparisons please, especially throw over type. I have a set of the original wolfman enduro throw over bags. They have been used and abused and are still good. But they will die at some point, so it would be nice to have some options to replace them.
Great video as always! I’ve been using the GL Great Basin on my DRZ for a few years now and it’s great. Truly cavernous. Durable. A little bit of a pain if you want a particular item easily accessible while out riding. I can see how the Mosko and RM setups could be better for this.
thanks Ben; really good review. I ride Giant Loop's bags on both my TDub and my Himalayan, and find them to be excellent. The put-put's also got a Mojave bag on most of the time, as well as a fender bag for tools, and since it's a TW, an armadillo bag for spare gas. I went with Giant Loop over Mosko simply due to the cost, but if GL had bags in that OD color, I'd have gone for that in a heartbeat! Great bags, including their tank bags, which we also run, and I'm very happy with them.
Really enjoy your product review videos. You do an excellent job explaining the pros and cons. Would like to see the large/small review. You mentioned the Mojavi, it fits great on a Tenere 700, nice and snug to the sides allowing you to keep the daytrip/emergency gear you have off of your back. Haven't had a chance to try the Coyote yet, will test it on the top half COBDR bottom of WYBDR this summer.
I think that! Mosko is simply the best!! I've got both ! For my long and shorts trips! I tried others and actually I now wouldn't chage them! Mosko is awesome!
Thank you for this comparison. It is at a great time for me as I recently purchased my first motorcycle (used dual sport, thanks for the advice on that as well) and hope to get enough seat time to try overnights in early spring.
I had a giant loop Great Basin bag on a Honda xr650r for years . Only complaint was getting into the bag after it was packed . Hard to find things . I welded some oval chain links to 3/4” strap iron to make tie on points . Made it faster to get the bag off and on.
I looked at the price difference between the coyote and the greatbasin. I spent the money and bought the greatbasin. It holds way more than I want to ride with on my bike. That said, if I get a larger bike and want to go on a week trip it will be perfect. Thanks Ben.
Good comparison video! Always appreciated. I’m kind of a Nelson Rig fan, their hurricane line at least. Giant loop feels a little more rugged but I haven’t put either through much. The Hurricane designs just suit me better.
I would like to see how the Rhinowalk saddle bags compare to the Tusk. There are a few members on the TW200 forum who really like them and claim that they are quite durable. At the current price of $140, they seem like a great option for the rider considering moto camping. I have been eyeballing them for a little while hoping to catch a side by side comparison with other brands. One thing I do like is that once mounted, there is room enough across the back for a slightly larger duffel or tail bag, similar to the Tusk set up. Thanks for another great video, and looking forward to more comparison videos.
I have used Gaint Loop, Wolfman, and Mosko bags. Wolfman was my first, very crash resistant, and they worked well until the arthritis in my hands made it difficult to buckle. Gaint Loop was second, and I can not say anything good about their bags. They worked decent in hot weather but in cold, nada. I really don't have any good memories with those bags. I run Mosko now. The 35L on the AT and T7, and the R80 on the CRF300. They work well with my near useless fibers, strong as hell, easy to pack, and the support is awesome. Let's see a tank bag comparison
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Yes more luggage comparison video's. Larger, smaller, tank bags, etc.
Yes -- definitely!
I'd like to see 80 to 100 liter modular luggage.
Thank you for the review and great job in keeping to key points across the board. The one thing about the Giant Loop bag is a continuos bag that you can fill in in the "shoulder" area of the bag instead of the gap that you find with MM and Tusk bags. What I can think of that would make this review better would have taken video from the front of the bike, back of the bike and top as well as with you sitting on the bike, even perhaps with a pillion so we could have gotten a visual of the width of the bags. The other thing that I think would have been relevant is having a test kit, in other words, same things you would have for a weekend camping trip going in each bag, the way you would pack each bag and weight of each bag loaded and unloaded. Reviews of the larger bags would be great for people like me that intend to travel internationally on their bike. Thank you for the review, appreciated!!
My vote is more comparison videos. Add in the Rhinowalk and any other cheaper brands as well. I have Great Basin, Sedici and the Rhinowalk have been the sweet spot for price and space motocamping for me
I have Rhinowalk panniers too, they have stood up to abuse, over thousands of miles, and I remain very happy with them. Great value for the money spent
I have the Rhinowalk as well. They are not made out of thick nylon like those but plastic. I have a feeling they wouldn't take a fall very well.
@@rvsmairspace6742 Not my experience with them, as I have dropped my bike many times and they are still fine
I ran the Tusk on a 2 month trip. The keys was using the Gnoblin from Msoko to mount it. Works great ! The reality is you really just need a smaller bag.. Sorry!
I used the tusk Olympus rack type set ups for a trip to Baja and then to Copper Canyon. They are heavy but very tough, I went down 3 times in Copper Canyon and 2 times in Baja there was no damage to the bags. I did break one of the plastic D rings on the bag but I just replaced it with a carabiner it was easier than dealing with Rocky Mountain ATV . They have good customer service but sometimes it’s a pain because of the process. The plastic buckles and D rings are the only week points on the tusk bags.
Yes! More luggage info is appreciated!
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I have the Mosko 80L Rackless setup. My biggest beef is that the holsters or the waterproof bags are not sized properly. If I were at the design meeting I would have lobbied for slightly larger diameter holsters so the dry bags would fit within when stuffed and still be called 80L system. The alternative to that would be a smaller diameter waterproof bag. The problem may not be so bad for camping but for motel use they are a PITA because you will need to put the empty waterproof bag in the holster then start stuffing in your items one at a time for each side. You can't slide a moderately stuffed waterproof bag in a holster no matter how hard you tug on the hand hold sewn onto the waterproof bag. In fact you may roll the bike off the side stand as my buddy did trying to get the right side put in. As mentioned about the 40L system they are heavy. Other than that the system is robust.
@@coarsegoldkid agreed with my Mosko 80 as well. It is much better when they are dusty and sandy because it makes them slide in easier, but even then it’s entirely possible to stuff the bags too full to fit in. When I do pack off the bike I’ll leave the top open or just rolled down once, it lets things shift around when inserting into the holsters.
Do you loosen the side straps on the holster before inserting the full dry bag? I’ve never had this problem but I loosen the holsters insert the full dry bag and tighten the holsters back up around the dry bags.
Yes. I also emailed my concern to MM and the response was put the dry bag in e 0:11 mpty then fill it.
@@apiazza63 I do, and it is still possible to pack the bags in a way that they won't slide in with things loose.
Have the Mosko Reckless 10 & 40 and the inner bag material gage is too thick to conform to the bottom when inserted. I just swap out the Mosko inner bag for a thinner gage Sea to Summit dry bag when I need to maximize storage volume.
I recently converted from Giant Loop to a Mosko Moto Reckless 80, and absolutely glad I did. I don't find it the least bit "complicated", and it is so much more stable ie less floppy, than the GL, there's no comparison. For rough terrain, it's just a better design. Pretty easy to pack once you have a system that works for you. I do cook gear/food on one side, clothes/tools on the other, and tent/sleeping bag up top. If you're hoteling it, pop the whole works off the Knoblin and go. I love it.
I have the Reckless 80 as well. I would say there's not much point in the R40 because it is only slight cheaper and my R80 fits my small CRF300 as well as my big bike.
Great video and comparison. I rode the COBDR on a FE350 with the tusk set up and I was nicknamed "floppy bags" for most of the trip. They worked, got me out into the mountains and I had a great time but a big, loaded drybag up high was not stable or helpful for aggressive riding. A year later, I then rode the AZBDR on the same FE350 with the Giantloop set up and had a much smooth experience. More gear in the legs = less weight up high. I even rode some proper marked single track with full camping gear and had no problems. I used the smaller GL dry bag for my sleeping bag only under the beaver tail, really happy with the set up. I considered the mosko bags but for the money, they seemed not worth it. The large legs of the GL Coyote, and the corners you get where the legs and the top meet make it super easy to pack and hold a ton of bulky gear!
Awesome! Would love to see your review of the Green Chile setup
Thank you for a very thorough and informative video. The choice of luggage bags really depends on the type of journey you are
undertaking.
Personally I use a rack configuration using the Kreiga 42 litre bags and a Touratek top box. My motorcycle is a KTM 790 Adventure R (2019).
In terms of my experience I have ridden from Sydney (Australia) to London (2019) and from LA to Santiago Chile (2023) unsupported and on my own.
So, why choose this setup?
1) when travelling solo you need
to have what I call a safe to store electronic equipment and vital documents. The top box is perfect in my experience. Yes, the top box raises the centre of gravity but it’s worth it.
2) anti theft - the Keiga soft panniers are waterproof and extremely resilient. I use lockable straps which fit around the bags. Again when you are travelling solo and you choose to stop to eat, hike or visit attractions you are assured that your possessions are secure as possible.
One other must have is an alarmable disc lock.
During my travels I have always, if possible, avoided street parking.
I trust this comment is useful.
Yes, more comparisons!
Well done, Ben. I appreciate you giving your overall review with a non biased stance. Your time with G. Loop seemed insignificant when it came down to your downright honesty of these three product's functionality. Your aim to give a well-rounded shakedown for all different types of riding and moto camper's skill and experience levels shines through. Your honesty is appreciated and apparent... regardless of your affiliations with all of these fine companies and those who run them.
I run a Reckless 40 with the stinger 22. It's bulletproof and tight on the bike but it has honed what I pack down to a minimalist set up. Forcing me to keep the weight down....which works out on my very lightweight crf230f converted adventure machine.
Great review!
The Coyote is my favorite 40l bag by far it packs amazing.
the only improvement it needs is optional straps on the back of the back for strapping it to the rear of the tail rack... that would prevent it from pulling forward on your epic adventures.
Great review as always ✌️
I went with Giant Loop as my first luggage.
The discount available for BDR supporters, was a no-brainer.
And YES! More comparison videos!
Mosko Moto got a customer for life from me - after the Colorado BDR my Reckless 80 side and top bag were stolen. I called Mosko kind of heartbroken and asked if I could order just the dry bags and told her what happened. They made a warranty check for me and sold me the replacements for basically half price.
I love the comparison on the luggage options. I am definitely biased, I have used both the Mosko Moto panniers and the rackless system and I love both. I tried Tusk once and I just couldn't enjoy it. At first the Mosko bags were a little confusing and frustrating with the buckles and sinching everything down but I have been using them reguarly for the past 2 years and I can do it in my sleep. They definitely cost a arm and a leg but rightfully so, you can definitely see the quality in the product.
you're a freakin' mind reader, sir. I was just looking at what I was going to get myself in Jan, after recovering from the holidays. Tusk it is. I really appreciate these gear reviews! Thank you!
I used the giant loop coyote on a Vic High country trip and a Cape York trip in Australia 🇦🇺. Bag was mounted to my SWM rs500. I was able to carry all camping and cooking gear for several days off road. An absolute dream to ride with this set-up. Distributed the heavy weight well and was hardly noticeable. Very robust and compact on the bike.
I would absolutely buy my Mosko Moto Reckless 80 again. It's a bombproof system.
For my KTM 1290, I used the big coyote bag, and it has great storage that keeps all your gear dry. It's great for long trips!
+1 Inspiration Point for saying "Bag of Holding."
Two years ago, I bought a motocamping luggage setup and managed to score a Mosko R40 system on sale for about $480. I had also been considering the Kriega OS Base with two 18L side bags, but ultimately chose the Mosko R40. Before that, I had been using a single 40L Osah dry duffel bag strapped to the rear rack, which worked fine for the time but wasn't ideal.
As for my experience with the Mosko setup: since I already had a fairly compact kit, the R40 has worked well for me. My sleeping bag isn't the smallest-it’s a 15-degree bag, mostly down, from Cabela’s. In the two side bags, I can fit the sleeping bag, a 1-person backpacking tent, a Helinox chair, sleeping pad, collapsable table (travel bird), pillow, and a few extras like a pump. The non-detachable auxiliary pockets on my model are perfect for my tool roll, spare tube, and camp shoes.
Between the top bag and my backpack, I can squeeze in clothes, my CPAP and battery, cookware (like a collapsible X-Pot and cup), food, a speaker, tiny pump, and even 4 beers. I DID eventually get the 22L singer top bag to expand the setup, and i think it is prob required for anything longer than a 1 or 2 day trip.
Honestly, I’m not sure I’d be able to afford the Mosko R40 setup now-it’s pretty expensive. But I do love it, even though there’s definitely a bit of a learning curve when it comes to strapping everything down properly. It’s a little complicated, but once you figure out the right order of operations, everything stays secure.
I haven’t used Giant Loop horseshoe bags, but I run the new V3 Mojavis on all my day rides, and those are by far the best setup I’ve used.
Thats my 3 cents!
I used the Great Basin v1 for about 8 years. I'm a Mosko convert. I've run the Reckless 80 for a couple years. The nice thing about the Mosko is the flexibility if you want to hotel it, you don't have a lot of extra flappy bag like the Great Basin. You can push the bags in the holsters down and use no top bag. And of course the features are nice like the pods. I also attach a large water bottle holster to the molle straps where I can get to it easily. I just bought the small Nelson Rigg bags for dual sport day trips and I'm happy with that so far, too. It is really cheap and solid if you need a light dual sport setup.
Rhinowalk rear 40-60 liter bag and their 44 liter saddle bags have been solid. They’re both around 100$ and are great budget option. I’m also an Oregonian and new to the hobby. These bags are more in my price range (I’m 22 just getting into the hobby and wanted to keep a low budget). They match perfectly with my used DRZ400s, and I’m really happy with them. I daily my bike. Would love to see a review!
P.S. I bought the Rocky Mountain gear when I saw you posted them on sale and they have been absolutely phenomenal in this rainy weather, thank you! Cheers from lake Oswego
I have done 12K street miles with the Amazon copy, Wild Heart, 55 L dry bag as my "all things camping" bag with no issues. As a 95% street guy, most of my bikes have hard panier so my mix is different but nice to have one bag to carry into (often) the campsite and all I have to go back to the bike for is the growler of beer until morning.
@@Rigatonispaghettioly Wow, you carry a lot of stuff! I have the Rhinowalk 27 liter saddle bags, along with a small top case (it's actually an inexpensive plastic toolbox) - together, they provide just enough space for all my camping gear, tools, clothing, etc. Groceries are a bit of a challenge, but whenever possible I buy food for one day at a time and strap that down to the rear seat.
I find the bike is so much easier to ride offroad when keeping the weight to a minimum.
@@alozborne just because I have all the capacity doesn’t mean I load it down, but having the option is nice. I daily my bike so the extra storage has been clutch. I’ll get Groceries n stuff on the bike too.
But for Moto camping I use my backpacking kit plus some tools n motorcycle stuff. My backpacking bag is 55liter and fits my kit pretty good so tbh I could probably just use the top case for motocamping. Backpacking kit weighs about 20-24lbs all in w food and water.
This is helpful and interesting for me personally. Obviously it is most useful when I’m searching for the items being reviewed.
I did my digging and got the Tusk setup and added a separate dry bag on top - that was almost necessary for function. The leg bags are quite tight, same choke point you described. It’s on a ‘22 KLR and I’ve only put ~2000 miles on them (some NEBDR, mostly on road) and they’re been great and totally dry with the bags.
Finally, props on the previous video responding to comments! Your honesty is always appreciated and as a result of your mindset (let’s give it a try & I’m not a racer) I’ve taken a lot of comfort in my abilities and desires. It’s fine if I only do a section of the BDR at a time. Just go, do it. Stop watching videos and go!
Green Chili scramble rack with some bag snakes is awesome. Use whatever bags you want. Put a waterproof duffle on top and you’re gone.
This was great. I'm setting up my first DRZ and would love a comparison of the bigger bags too. Really appreciate that you use your stuff, the "review" isn't just a feature overview, but real experience in riding conditions.
When I had my drz I added the tusk panier rack, then added bags from Nelson rigg. Worked well. ua-cam.com/users/shortsJJidKj3DJDA?si=xhifB-ZMLEjKJ50i
Would love to see rackless Kriega vs Turkana. Love the channel!
Kriega doesn’t get enough attention
I love my Turkana setup!
Yes more luggage comparison videos. This was very informative as a beginner.
Great timing, I was looking at reckless set up. I’ve always used metal panniers and decided to go reckless on my new bike. I was looking at the Tusk set up but after this video I’m going with the Great Basin. Lots of good info. I like basic and easy to pack. Looks like giant loop is the was to go. I’ve had their tank bag on for many years. The map pocket has deteriorated, but the bad is still functional. Thanks for the comparison 🎉
One thing that might have been added regarding the "Some Assembly Required" statement. I have currently have the Mosko R40. The assembly required lets you adjust how wide the side bags will be apart are depending on what model of bike (dual sport or adventure) you are mounting your luggage to. A dual sport bike is much narrower than an adventure bike. The R40 and would guess the Tusk bags have a narrow and a wide set of holes that you use for the best fit to the bike. Thanks Dork, nice comparison and always enjoy your vids. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, Ben for comparing both three set ups. I have the Tusk bags on my Honda CRF 250 L. I do not go camping, but I do use them for day trips and they take everything I need and yes, please add some more luggage videos as they come out with new gear all the time, thank you. Looking forward to your next video.
Chewie!!!!
Thanks for the video, I’ve got the Mosko Reckless 80 and GL Coyote. To me the GL is easier to pack and feels like it holds more than the numbers say. The Mosko with multiple places to stash stuff is just harder to pack and feels less efficient. The Mosko is also really heavy.
Mosko feels a bit sturdier but I haven’t been able to hurt my GL stuff, so I don’t know that one or the other is tougher.
I can't say enough good about my Mosko Moto gear.
I enjoy all your videos....but I especially enjoy your comparison videos! Thank You!
I just bought a 23 leftover Triumph Tiger GT Explorer. I always look at your videos for helpful information. I've put my Tusk setup from my Himalayan I traded in on to my new Bike. They fit well, look good and have more than enough room for me to travel . I don't camp unless it has cabins. No room for tent and sleeping bags. That said, I would camp if I had panier setups. Comparing the soft paniers to the factory Givi Paniers. I'm looking at the Trekker setup for the durability. I'm glad I got the Tusk setup and I just bought a SW MOTOTECH City WP tank bag . It's actually bigger than I thought. I was sent the type you have to drill 4 holes and install the bracket on the fuel filler without the magnetic brackets. It was easy to put together if you have a good set of tools
I like your categorization of which bags fit with riding approaches/experience/budget - I ran Tusk Excursion on 500 with a super ultralight approach on pretty demanding (harder than BDR) trails and it worked fine. I now have an 890 with 80L Mosko set up and absolutely love it - like you mentioned - the 40L is not "really" enough for multi-day moto camping with any sort of "luxury" - Thanks for the great run down!
Thanks for your reviews bud, I really appreciate your honesty and in-depth research. Keep up the great work.
I have tried a couple bag setups. One was a cheap amazon setup 24 + 24 +40 top bag to do as you said to try it out. The second was the GL Great basin. The GL was better built and I think I could get more in because of how they wrap around. The great basin not great to get in and out unless you know what you might want and pack to the back which is what I did. I did this a a 2020 CRF250L, yea it was overloaded but never complained (that gets fixed soon!). The problem I have with this bike is that the muffler stick way the heck out and I thing the coyote would be better . You have stated the coyote points more forward like the other two in this review and might work better on this CRF250. That being said I hit Mosko's dirty bird sale and picked up their 80L paniers and a rack. The Mosko Moto stuff is probably the most rugged but it is heavy and regular price is really high. Love to ride with you sometime maybe some day, you seem to be the most fun guy out there lol. Thanks for the reviews! Chuck
One thing you forgot to say about mosko is how impressed your friends will be with your purchase.
Thanks, good comparison. I've been using ENDURISTAN Blizzard XL saddle bags and Tornado M top bag for the last few years for long traveling (all Africa and South America). I can fit camping gear on the side, and my stuff in the top bag. All waterproof.
Would be possible to look at the altrider luggage 😊
I like the comparison content. Even though I don't plan to shell out that kind of money on gear anytime soon, it is good to know what to look for, what works and what doesn't, and all the little bits of insight you throw into your videos. Riding and camping in Texas is vastly different from the pacific northwest, but it is nice to see the differences.
Dork in the Road I think you and Ian of BRM have the best reviews by far. Enjoyed the review even though I have been using the Rhinowalks on my Norden 901 and I think they work great at a fraction of the cost. I am a weight weanie and try to avoid placing weight on the rear rack of the bike, I like to keep the weight close to the center of gravity. That is doable if I am hoteling it in Baja but not when camping. When I am doing a lot of off road travel I don't like all the camping weight/gear, it compromises my enjoyment of riding the motorcycle too much. That extra weight is not a problem when on pavement and otherwise I like camping. I hope you continue to review gear and luggage options. I appreciate your sense of humor.
yes i liked the comparison video. I would like to see more of this kind of video. Often people who are not in the gear retail industry, have no way to get out and see the different products. It would also be great to see the Wolfman, and the Green Chile setup in action
I have the Mosko Reckless 80 and your review is spot on . They are the Gold standard but easy access is not happening, a bigger top bag is necessary for long trips. These bags have proven to be almost bomb proof
Great comparison on luggage. I myself am using Giant Loop Mojave bags, bar bag, and just picked up there larger tank bag (to try out this coming spring for carrying camera gear). They have done well for me for day use for the last two years (sans the new tank bag that I have yet to try). On a slightly different topic I would love to see some comparisons of backpacks for us larger girth individuals that ride. To include hydro backpacks or just storage variety for driving too and from work.
Thanks for the luggage reviews. As a recently retired mid-sixties guy just getting into motorcycle riding, and specifically ADV, all of your reviews are priceless. Confucius says that of the ways to attain wisdom, experience is the bitterest. So, much better for me to learn from yours. I’m turning a CRF 300L into a light adventure bike for fun and to escape the wife occasionally, and these three systems are all in the running. I was wondering about your opinion on soft luggage side racks, specifically offerings from PMR, Adventure Spec or Tusk. They would seem to add to bike protection and bag stability, but I do not see them used often. Not asking about pannier racks. Again, really enjoy your reviews, they are helpful.
I was very interested in what you had to say about the Tusk Excursion side bags as I used them this past summer on a 3 month moto camping trip in Europe. I’m glad you mentioned the restrictive webbing collar near the top of the bags as that was my main gripe with these bags. The dry bag liners that come with the bags are slightly tapered from top to bottom which is a great idea to help get them into and out of the panniers but because of the restrictive top webbing, you have to under-stuff the liners to get them to go down into the bags so you are left with wasted space between the two bag layers. You can basically fit half a baguette into the wasted space so I would save a couple of waterproof items to stuff into the voids after the dry bags went in. Of course when you want to pull the liners out again you have to pull the additional loose items out first so please TUSK, if you’re reading this, make that top webbing longer so the opening is wider which would match the shape of the liners and that would be awesome.
I did like the beaver tail which I found to be well designed with lots of strapping options and it also has a small storage pouch for a First Aid kit or what have you.
One other small gripe is that the strap locks for the bag lower anchor points slip a bit and have to be periodically re-tightened. Interestingly the strap locks for the TUSK tank bags have the same problem.
In answer to your question at the end, yes please to do more reviews on luggage especially the soft luggage.
I went in the inside of the bag and used a razor to take some of the stitch out that is a part of the restrictive webbing collar. It did make a difference but if Tusk was listening it would be a huge improvement if they added some length or better yet an elastic collar.
First off, thank you for doing this video. For sure do the comparison videos, with a shot of all the gear that is to go in. This kind of content is important as most of us have no place to go physically compare these options. I’ve been in analysis paralysis for a while now when it comes to what will be my (ahem) second luggage purchase. I’m looking forward to your next camping adventure video as well, I think maybe it’s been awhile since y’all have cut up around a fire. 😊
Giant Loop Moto has done a great job of building simple and reliable moto luggage. We use their bags here in Patagonia year after year of hard riding and have had minimal failures. Its solid for sure.
Bought a 21 Bros product a few years ago based on Pavlin's (Motorcycle Adventures channel) recommendation. It was significantly less expensive than the coyote and genuinely waterproof. Shipping took a while, but it was well worth it.
@@Haytifdad Pavlin is awesome
Excellent advice. More videos on luggage, such a major purchase that has a lot to do with the success of a motocamping trip.
I have the Mosko Reckless 80 that I bought during the previous Black Friday sale and I love it. It is indeed a bit of a process to setup and it didn't seem to hold as much as I thought it would but I loved how secure it was. 4,500 mile trip this summer from Calgary Canada down through Portland, northern California, Crater Lake, etc and I barely could tell it was there. It never swayed or moved and the only way I could tell it was there is that I had a bit of a backrest. I am a fan of Mosko Moto and have a number of their products and I've been very happy with all of them and to me they are worth the price. That said I've never tried the Giant Loop, Tusk, or any other rackless bags so I appreciate the comparison. I did look at the Tusk and Giant Loop stuff before buying the Mosko stuff but with the sale the price differential wasn't as much as normal and I just found the Giant Loop to be way too ugly to seriously consider
I think these luggage videos are quite useful.
I would really like to see some on saddle bags snd racks.
I have used about a dozen different setups over the years, I now have both the Coyote and Great Basin from Giant Loop and that's all I have used for ADV in the last couple years. Weight and capacity are the primary reasons.
Any advice on best gear for a Fly & Ride? Looking for something that will work well as a carry-on and personal bag for a 12 day trip. Will not be checking any luggage.
Just added the Mosko Moto Reckless 80 for my 790 Adventure! I have an ultralight camping setup that weighs around 5lbs (tent,sleeping pad,pillow, chair). And packs real small!
I care a lot about luggage. I would like to see a video on panniers.
Love your work.
I went with the Tusk bags based on the price point and accessories. I only take a few rides every year but they are rough and mostly off road. I'm more than happy. I've hit the ground a few times and the bags hold up.
Great video. I wish you had done this last year before I purchased my Mosko system. I think I would have gone with the Giant Loop. I find, as you did, that the Mosko system is a bit fiddley, and too complicated. It is a good system, but pricey. I also appreciate that your videos are succinct, and presented well, as good english teacher should.
The Mosko Moto bags are great for people with a system. I don’t like jamming everything in one bag, I like everything in its place for easy access, which is the valuable on long trips. The harness is in pieces so it’s easy to pack into a duffle for plane trips.
But as you put it, not everyone needs all of the features. It’s great to have other options because I have other friends who like to pack all in one bag.
Great comparison. I went with the Tusk and broke a strap as well. Just learned not to "muscle" it. Great setup for me as I don't put in a lot of over night excursions. Easy to mount and dismount.
I have a set of Tusk bags I used for my old Royal Enfield Himalayan. I just installed them on my brand new 23 Triumph 1200 Tiger GT Explorer I bought on a clearance sale for $16900. Yes, a $24k+ manufacturing retail price bike for less than $17k. I want a tank bag since I need a fuel cap lock type and looking at a SW Mototech. I'm trying to go through your channel. I do this often. Love the channel
Yes more luggage content please. Large bags and tank bags please
Great comparison info! I have the MM Revolver 80L with the 2 AuxPox. Got it for its reputation of bulletproof durability and the beaver tail. The beaver tail is super useful. Ben is spot on regarding actual capacity being limited in these multi bag set ups. You will travel light -even with an 80L kit. The MM value proposition is based on quality and durability. Case materials, Buckles and straps are heavy duty. And outrageously expensive. Regardless of what kit you use I encourage you to zip tie rolled up straps into the keeper that comes with the kit. An unraveled strap can cause big problems.
I ran the tusk on the ORBDR this last summer and it worked great. All of my camp went into the 22l top bag and hung my water and fuel off each side. The luggage worked good and is priced fairly. Mosko moto is just crazy when it comes to price and I personally won’t buy their products. I do own a giant loop tank bag and really like it and I would consider their luggage. Thank you for the comparison. 👍🏻
I modified the tusk bags to use the mosko goblin mount. Way easier and more secure mounting. Thanks for the in depth review!
Hey Ben, definitely more comparison videos! Also in this video, it was a little hard to hear you when your pitch tapered off, then bam a new sentence was loud again lol.. just a note...love all your stuff!
I have mostly used excellent mosko items.. amazing quality but I too feel I need to pack exactly the same way.. and my big sleeping bag struggles in the side panniers as well as the large 40 litre duffle .. strange.. if you have bulk items, a bit tough agreed... recently sold the nomax tank bag, I prefer a open style tank bag.. I recent.y purchased a few possible pouches from GL love these.. and obsessed with the most underrated tank pockets from GL..love those too. I also purchased super cheap crash bar bags from Amazon they are excellent for the price..
Cool. Now do a video with a detachable system with a base like the kriega OS-base or Green Chilie soft racks.
I have the Mosko R80 kit and love it. You busting the buckle on camera here (and good on you for not hiding that) reinforces that Mosko is a solid kit for me. Mine has been bomb proof for big bike ADV and road touring. I think you undersell the difference in "beaver tail" features here. I think the panel on the Mosko kit is really useful. Makes getting at smaller items much easier but is still flexible enough to hold large items too. The beaver tail sold the Mosko kit for me.
At the same time the beaver tail is the biggest drawback. Mostly in that while I can detach the tail and run with just the legs, that isn't how I want to ride. I want the opposite; to ride to camp, drop the side legs and ride with just the tail with or without a top-bag for a day ride or grocery run. You can drop the side bags, but the holsters are permanently part of the kit. Same story with the 40's. This has me looking at something like the Kriega or Green Chilie next time around.
I run the Kriega setup and love it. You get a great quality set of luggage and bags that can be swapped on the OS-Base, giving you the most flexibility for any trip with a good amount of bag configurations.
You can use any one of the OS bag sizes you'd like - they come in 18, 12 and 6 liters sizes, which you can mix and match as needed and strap onto the base and/or crashbars - you can also complement with the expandable 28-40 liters rackpack if you need extra space.
It is solid too, I've dropped and dragged the bike multiple times and for multiple seasons on them, and the only damage I've had is one cracked buckle tab, the buckle still works as it should. They are also completely waterproof and easy to mount/dismount for hotel stops, I highly recommend!
I'd love to see the kriega setup as well and how it stacks up
I have one kislux bag I got in 2019, it's the LV white catogram speedy. It's counter quality and it has a nice honey patina now, so the leather is real. I think whatever makes you happy go for it. I've seen LV with plastic leather and blood red glaze...
yes, the buckle system on the Mosko is a bit daunting at first. I have the Back country 35L and the Rackless 40. I regretted the purchase at first because it was so involved getting in them. After using them it is now a non issue. I am a minimalist and the rackless 40 was just perfect for my UTBDR trip this year. I was thinking about the Coyote, but I will hit up a hotel and getting them on and off is way more involved than Mosko. Mosko is very pricey, buy once cry once is spot on for me in the luggage catagory.
I have also used SW Motech and the semi hard bags. Now those are awesome and If i sell my mosko that's what I'm getting next. The quick connect/disconnect is very solid and the racks are more eye pleasing than the normal tubular racks.
Great vid, thanks for the different perspective and sharing your knowledge.
I have the Tusk Excursion with the larger top bag mounted to my BETA 500RS,works great for me. Built great, has the waterproof inner bags,and priced right. I would recommend it.
If anyone is looking at or likes the Giant Loop please checkout the AltRider Hemisphere Rackless set up. I LOVE LOVE LOVE that luggage system. It worked very well for me on my UTBDR and COBDR trip. I also just let the holster system live on the bike year around so I never have to fuss with it!
Ha. Just commented same. Altrider is horrible at marketing the best version of all these bags. So underrated
AltRider makes great gear.
Thank you for the competent review! I would love to see a review of the larger versions from these brands. Tbh i think the 40L is a size that's neither here nor there, overkill for daytrips and not enough for any extended trip.
I want the Mosko.
About to get Tusk for the Honda dual sports.
Gonna get Mosko for the ADV bike when I have more time to take off and motocamp more.
Nice job Dork!
And YES we do care about luggage BUT I am literally about to buy my first after just using the ones that came with my Norden Expedition and honestly you told me about all I need to know comparing these sizes.
That being said I’d still watch any others you make.👍🏼
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I wish I could have seen this video about a year ago before I bought a mosko moto 40L bag set. I have a slightly smaller packed sleeping bag than you show here, but I am still not really able to fit it in the mosko bags. Luckily I have a rolltop duffel that fits on the top replacing the smaller mosko top bag that I can fit my sleeping bag and tarp, but then the total packed size of my gear is larger than I had wanted.
I do still like the bag set up, and it was nice to be able to configure it small when I had my DR350 and now slightly wider now that I have a KTM390 Adventure (in the mentioned assembly step there are two sets of holes for the "legs" of the bag bases to allow it to fit dual sports and adventure bike seat widths equally well), so it fits the bikes well and looks cool doing it. But its got me looking for smaller sleeping setups or needing to add additional storage in a way that the giant loop bag might not have. So I ended up with a more expensive option that is also encouraging me to spend more money replacing gear that's still perfectly functional.
I'd like to see more, but I'd also like to see you branch out from the big three and look at Rhino, Shad and other options. I know the Shads are Giant Loop priced, but the Rhinos are a budget option.
I've been quite curious about the Rhino walks as well, they look great and are really cheap in comparison
@GregLanz I have a tail bag that's 30L and I like it so far.... but it's the first bag I've used that has a lining for waterproofing.
IDK how it compares to the others like Krieger or Seidi.
Thanks for the comparison Dork! I have two Mosko systems. Love them both.
BTW… that sleeping bag looks more like a car camping bag… not a true backpacking bag 👈🏼😁
The Green Chili Hardcore Enduro set up for me. I got one of the older ones that have the tire irons with it. I can run whatever bag I want depending on the ride.
Hey! So the Tusk bags are pretty decent in my experience. I agree with you on them being an entry level bag, however..... I use the Tusk Traverse bags for my EDC essentials (tool kit, repair kit, spare tube, TP, and a chair). Those bags are I think 8L each. I have roughly 9000kms with them on my bike (maybe 6000 offroad). They have taken a few spills too.
Back to the Excursion bags. I have not busted any buckles, but I've also devised a method where it actually bolts to my tail rack, the normal side straps go to my footpegs. It mounts rock solid. Everything else is true. I hate the way the roll top and the base of the bags are connected, it makes it very restrictive on what can actually be placed into the bag. I find that the stiffness also hinders the packability.
They were roughly $600 CAD (not quite).
They were what I purchased for my first motorcycle (DRZ 400S) 2 years ago. So a total newb, both to motorcycles and everything that goes with it. That is all.
Merry Christmas!
I’ve been stuffing my bag, fly and tent directly into my Mosko bags. It makes them a little more flexible and easier to pack.
I have the Tusk set up. I ended up getting a Medium top bag so I have plenty of room. I have been very happy with the quality and performance. The side bags are a challenge getting my sleeping bag and tent in but it works fine. I think the Tusk is a good value to get started with. I have always wanted the Giant Loop set up and may go with that next time.
You are the MVP for making this video!!
Great video. Yes, more comparisons please, especially throw over type. I have a set of the original wolfman enduro throw over bags. They have been used and abused and are still good. But they will die at some point, so it would be nice to have some options to replace them.
Great video and review, thank you. Looking forward to seeing/meeting you @ABR Festival June 2025
Great video as always! I’ve been using the GL Great Basin on my DRZ for a few years now and it’s great. Truly cavernous. Durable. A little bit of a pain if you want a particular item easily accessible while out riding. I can see how the Mosko and RM setups could be better for this.
thanks Ben; really good review. I ride Giant Loop's bags on both my TDub and my Himalayan, and find them to be excellent. The put-put's also got a Mojave bag on most of the time, as well as a fender bag for tools, and since it's a TW, an armadillo bag for spare gas. I went with Giant Loop over Mosko simply due to the cost, but if GL had bags in that OD color, I'd have gone for that in a heartbeat! Great bags, including their tank bags, which we also run, and I'm very happy with them.
I use the Nelson Rigg Hurricane line of luggage. I have the rackless saddlebags and the panniers. Both systems are great.
Really enjoy your product review videos. You do an excellent job explaining the pros and cons. Would like to see the large/small review. You mentioned the Mojavi, it fits great on a Tenere 700, nice and snug to the sides allowing you to keep the daytrip/emergency gear you have off of your back. Haven't had a chance to try the Coyote yet, will test it on the top half COBDR bottom of WYBDR this summer.
I think that! Mosko is simply the best!! I've got both ! For my long and shorts trips! I tried others and actually I now wouldn't chage them!
Mosko is awesome!
Thank you for this comparison. It is at a great time for me as I recently purchased my first motorcycle (used dual sport, thanks for the advice on that as well) and hope to get enough seat time to try overnights in early spring.
Nice job...I'm such a Mosko Fan never tried the others...good mix!!!
You are at your best here!
I had a giant loop Great Basin bag on a Honda xr650r for years . Only complaint was getting into the bag after it was packed . Hard to find things . I welded some oval chain links to 3/4” strap iron to make tie on points . Made it faster to get the bag off and on.
I looked at the price difference between the coyote and the greatbasin. I spent the money and bought the greatbasin. It holds way more than I want to ride with on my bike. That said, if I get a larger bike and want to go on a week trip it will be perfect. Thanks Ben.
Good comparison video! Always appreciated.
I’m kind of a Nelson Rig fan, their hurricane line at least. Giant loop feels a little more rugged but I haven’t put either through much. The Hurricane designs just suit me better.
I would like to see how the Rhinowalk saddle bags compare to the Tusk. There are a few members on the TW200 forum who really like them and claim that they are quite durable. At the current price of $140, they seem like a great option for the rider considering moto camping. I have been eyeballing them for a little while hoping to catch a side by side comparison with other brands. One thing I do like is that once mounted, there is room enough across the back for a slightly larger duffel or tail bag, similar to the Tusk set up. Thanks for another great video, and looking forward to more comparison videos.
Really useful comparison! I am just considering what option I should go for with my KTM 640 Adv, this was really helpful!
I have used Gaint Loop, Wolfman, and Mosko bags. Wolfman was my first, very crash resistant, and they worked well until the arthritis in my hands made it difficult to buckle. Gaint Loop was second, and I can not say anything good about their bags. They worked decent in hot weather but in cold, nada. I really don't have any good memories with those bags. I run Mosko now. The 35L on the AT and T7, and the R80 on the CRF300. They work well with my near useless fibers, strong as hell, easy to pack, and the support is awesome.
Let's see a tank bag comparison
Well done. Like that comparison video. More, please!