Dr Disrespect is officially cooked
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Asmongold Clips / Asmongold Reacts To: Former Twitch employee whose job was to investigate private whispers speaks out on the Doc situation
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If talking to minors is enough to be called a pedo, every female streamer on twitch should be in a panic right now. Because that is their core audience.
Tbh this is 100%. Lol
INAPPROPRIATELY talking to minors. Depending on the definition of inappropriate in this instance it’s VERY different
You have to consider that these dm's where disclosed in court.
A judge looked at this and did not find any criminal content. Not even enough to break the moral clause in his twitch contract, as that contract was upheld.
its ok when roasties do it
You think every female streamer on twitch sexts minors?
male streamer talking to minors: outrage
female 304 doing camshows for minors: NICE!
PS: it's on the same platform.... you hypocrites
If a male guy did that no one will have a problem bud, if a female DMs a teenage boy, for sure everyone will hate it aswell.
Don't go delusional on this stuff.
What the fuck is a 304
i dont see this kind of fking logic here like for real WE GOT LIKE CORN STARS DOING wild sexual shlt for children in the streams that you know is full of 14 years old boys and no one do shlt but when a dude talks with a minor people get super mad at him like wtf
@@Gorlami90Yo mama!
Sorry you left yourself open.
@@Gorlami90 When you type it in a calculator and flip it, it spells hoe. Basically it’s a new cringe slang for men too cowardly to just say it.
True story a 40 year old woman in our office ended up with a 19 year old lad also in our office. Nobody seems to care but imagine if the ages were reversed. To add, her daughter who is the same age also works in the same office 😅
In Europe no one would care.
(if she didn't say anything about it in tweeter and enrage some activists)
I would think it was weird. That's a 21 year diffrrence. Creepy is creepy.
@@Remedy462 "if they're old enough to have been your child when they're legal, it's weird" is my basic standard
The situation where the ages are reversed happens all the times, constantly, many men believes it’s normal, society let it happen, when the woman is the older one it’s when people are chocked, because it’s so rare.
@@Devi_Seona have you paid attention to american schools recently. Thousands of female predators are being exposed for sleeping with their students at the moment. It's actually legitimately worrying considering how much people deny women can commit acts of evil.
Glad that you waited for more hard evidence. Most people the past few days act like they had straight access to the dms and the victim's birth certificate
What hard evidence exactly?
@@johnblunt1313 I think the implication is that we're still waiting on it. That said, with what we do have, at the very least it does not paint him in a positive light. It's just the worst accusations are still not based on evidence.
@@Dharengo totally agree! the whole thing just sucks
1st and only comment on this channel. The astroturf is real boys.
Thanks so much for sharing the “hard evidence”. Grifting off of this is lowest of the lows
At least you waited for real information instead of jumping at baseless claims. Respect for that.
Unlike his community
@@harrysanchez7656oh come on. If it walks like a duck and quaks like a duck....
@@harrysanchez7656 nah, unlike some stupids, which is not the majority
the problem is that stupids are noisy af
@@WrenKainIV it might be another bird.
@WrenKainIV I don't disagree but the comments were filled with people defending Doc, talking about this why we don't believe women. They look dumb now
"What he said was disgusting."
"What did he say?"
"Can't tell you."
Yeah. either tell us what was said or stfu.
Rememeber to flag any one going to bat for cody. Doc lit Didn't do anything and the real pedos are projecting. We all know what kind of people work at twitch.
lol the dudes job was apparently to report stuff to the authorities. Bang up job you did there junior.
Ehhhh, speaking as a Jewish person, that might have validity to it.
"Some of the atrocities were horrible and not fit to be released on the internet."
"Show us!"
"No."
Sometimes, this actually holds up, considering some reporter testimonies.
This may be a similar sort of case.
If you sign an NDA, you're bound to that NDA. They can't expose the specific information to the public, since, as you might imagine, the public is not the police.
99% of this comment section is proof that this kind of stuff should be handled by professionals (like, actual lawyers and law enforcement) and not random people on the internet.
ZZZ
professionals: twiters
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ikr, internet 99% full of fake and trolls, 1 tweet can change your life.
This comment section proves children and brainlets will support who they love no matter what. No matter fucking what.
@robmcg2863 In what way? I’m not the one pretending to be some internet lawyer like everyone else lol.
All of a sudden every twitch employee knows all about these PDF-files.
They never cared enough to shine a light on it, but pounce now at the chance at social media clout...effing disgusting people.
Nda's expire
More smoke for them than for Dr Disrespect
The fact that your more disgusted with that then a grown man with a wig messaging minors?
@@platonicbuu7454 does your money matter more cause it's a lawsuit, this is the point
fuck an NDA if there hiding this shit
@@platonicbuu7454 You do realize that NDAs cannot be used to hide a crime, right?
I feel like i'm the only one who has never heard of ''whispers'' until this situation.
Well, as far as I'm aware, the feature has already been removed.
Probably because too many creeps messaging each other.
I wonder if it’s wat some guys got caught on to catch a predator was using cause there’s a few times they said they were msg in underage girls in whisper
It is some chat system affiliated with Twitch whereas it has a strict age requirement of 18+ to even use. How a 17 year old was able to use it is another can of worms.
Not to mention the fact Twitch can read anyone's private messages.
Same. Also, if there was anything it wouldn’t be a twitch employee post it would be the fbi at docs doorstep. If I were doc I’d sue these twitch mods
@@Zhello79 you mean the same way every kid can use pretty much every social media site that's meant for adults because none of them require an id to "verify" their age? yeah such a "can of worms" dude.
"Is it weird for a 35 year old man to message a 19 year old girl"
DiCaprio: *sweating profusely
it's legal but it's pretty stinky.
… who is married with a kid.
@@robosing225 It's only shamed when men do it to women. If older women go after younger guys "it's a good thing".
@@codynoth4183nah people oppose it too but tbh it kinda depends on the actual scenario which nobody can judge. imo him doing this AND CHEATING is the real thing but thats not illegal.
@@codynoth4183 Yup. Media and shows actually portray older women who prey on younger guys as "empowered". Yaasss queeen.
Actors out here dating 18-19 year olds all the time and people still go and support them. Let’s be real here.
18-19 can be weird and creepy as well and I think some actors have been criticized for it as well.
Also two wrongs don't make a right, that would be a logical fallacy. Just because one person gets away with doing something shitty doesn't mean someone else should get a free pass.
It should also be noted that in your example you are actually talking about adults, while Dr.Disrespect was talking to a minor meaning below the age of 18. So the person in question could be 17,16,15..... Additionally he has a wife and kids, which makes it even worse.
@@sebastians2559 but follow your state laws.
@@cjames9320 The most pedo response you could possibly give lmao. The guy was 35 and talked to a teenager. Like I remember how I was when I was 16. If you are 35 and hook up with a teenager you are kinda fucked in the head. It is just gross, plain and simple.
@@sebastians2559 Edit #2 , Germany has done some other things in the past as well so maybe lets not use your laws as a guideline
@@trwork89 yeah like any country doing war crimes all over the place, that doesn't matter in this case
I don’t think he’s a real Dr.
He's a certified pedotrician
(Maybe) That's not what he told the minor.
I heard that he's a physician.
Im a physician....
i just wanna see the texts and why the grand revelation was postponned
Postponed to see if it would just go away
What is so hard to understand about an NDA?? Twitch and Doc are both bound by it. They literally can't show those screenshots without breaching the agreement.
Good point, but the counterpoint is that the victim and family may have chosen not to press charges. In which case, there’s no crime. But twitch knows the behavior was occurring.
For an example, look at the Josh Giddey situation in the NBA. There is massive amounts of evidence Josh Giddey did something inappropriate with a minor, but that minor and her family chose not to press charges. So it’s like it never happened
There were "Leaked emails" in asmons last video that said all conversations were of a business nature. 07:55 in the last video
why tf do you wanna see? he is a pdf, no need for you to see it..
Look, I don't really like the guy either.
But "pedo" or "predator" is a HUGE step above what we currently know about.
true
This is further proof that doc should sue twitch into oblivion for slander/libel. The current/former employees saying doc sexted a minor has so muddied the water that no one is capable of evaluating this critically. Everyone wants to be presumptuous. And so this is defacto proof that twitch has caused irrevocable harm to docs business.
"But he admitted to sexting." He did not. Sexting is sending sexually explicit messages and or images. He denied this, and no evidence was provided of this.
"But he admitted to being inappropriate." 1) he didnt, because his statement was that they had "casual conversation" that "leaned towards inappropriate." He didn't admit to being inappropriate , but the conversation was leaning toward it. 2) inappropriate is highly subjective. Some of the public is assuming inappropriate means something overtly sexual, while others think it means a mild compliment. Theres no way to know but if you assume the worst you are the proof that twitch has slandered doc.
"But theres no evidence, why are you defending him?" Exactly. There's no real evidence and yet a ton of people amd his business associates are assuming the worse. Proof of slander.
Leaning to could be mild flirting or them asking to see him in real life...
Just saying a person is good looking.
That big streaming TV replacement fired a guy becsue a female worker claimed he held her eye contact to long..
That's now classed as a no go...
Jesus Christ, man. Let it go. He's done and a new upcoming streamer that you'll like is already on their way. Don't lose sleep because of this.
@@nuno_alex505 I don't care about his entertainment value. I don't watch his streams. I only care that a person is being unjustly destroyed by evil people. You should care too.
@@slow9573 let's put it like this: if a guy who's pushing 40 had "inappropriate" online conversations with your underage daughter/sister/niece, would you be alright with it?
@@nuno_alex505 Relax little brother, as you can tell from allllll the comments supporting him he’s not done and still has a massive following 😂 Try again
I mean if he is getting trouble for messaging and underage girl… are the hot tub girls going to get in trouble for messaging under age boys and sending them to their OF?
Don't you have to be 18 to sub to that stuff? I would say if the underage boys are getting around that, hands are tied. I think the "double standard" you're trying to get at doesn't apply because this guy "likely" knew she was a minor and went along with inappropriate contact/ messaging. Not defending or accusing, just kinda playing devils advocate.
@@Severmore from my understanding you were supposed to be 18 to be on Twitch whispers
@@Severmore
But why was it settled if what you're claiming is likely?
Porn available to anyone with the internet vs. A middle age man talking inappropriately to a minor........
It's not the same......
he got banned for trying to f*ck the underage girl. he didnt get banned for having small talk with her bro. use ur brain
i have never really watched doc and i dont want to take anything away from what hes done. but wtf is twitch doing. the cam girls skirting the rules every week for minors to buy their onlyfans, the multiple streamer fiascos. twitch needs a sheriff and a priest.
lol i am crying
Same situacion here...Don't know the guy and don't even care about this whole situation....However, I think the collosal effort you would need to fix twitch to prevent these kind of problems its not even worth it, compared to the small effort that fucking PARENTS and SOCIETY as a whole, should be doing to prevent it instead....But of course, if you follow Asmon's channel...You should have already realized that most likely these parents and societies are so mindblowingly fucked..that we're simply seeing it its reflection in kids in twitch...
Not only that, twitch should be held accountable for keeping this for four years, not getting justice for the kid. Imagine how many similar cases have never seen the light of day. And to add insult to injury, they paid the guy and shut everyone involved up with a NDA.
"Hey kid, sorry for what happened. Here, sign this so you can't talk about it. Oh yea, and we paid that guy millions. What do you get? Trauma!"
nooooo, then the priest will get to the minors
this is why they settled. a legal process would out the fact that twitch doesn't effectively moderate their platform. It took them three years to ban doc for sexting a minor, moderation teams are clearly NOT doing their jobs, and that would end up being hugely bad PR.
I was a physician, and now I'm a lawyer.
* We don't know whatever he knew the age or not
* We don't know know the age of the person then or now
* We don't know who talked inappropiately in the conversation, only that the conversation itself leaned into it sometimes, which can be either or both
* We don't know what Dr Disrespect means specifically with "inappropiate" ie was it flirting, was it innuendos, was it more general, was it more etc
* We don't know the specifics and haven't seen the actual messages
* We do know Twitch settled and paid him our for having banned him over this
* We do know there was no court case made against Dr Disrespect over this
* We do know that Dr Disrespect and other third party sources has stated that a minor was involved
* We do know Dr Disrespect was banned 3 years after this incident
* We do know nothing illegal happened in whatever state had jurisdiction, whatever that is the state of Dr Disrespect, Twitch or the minor, that ruled on this
Make your own conclusion based on the facts that we do or don't know.
However don't let morals dictate over laws. Morals are biased and differ widely between people. You can judge people for yourself, but don't execute them based on your feelings.
I'm almost certain the people screaming the loudest that he's a pdf are ones themselves. There's no logical reason to jump to that conclusion based on the info we have or lack thereof. Why do people care so much?
@@MisterMick113 they dont really care.. they just need that drama.. that attention.. they feel good if they can burn a witch on the stake.. it makes their own problems go away for a bit because they can focus all their illness on someone elses wrongdoing.
@@lmaodrengen true
I thought she was 17 came out?
@@MisterMick113 this is a wild take, imagine getting inappropriate with someone you know who isn't 18 when you're in your 30s... the fact you're defending the guy shows how far-gone you are. You cannot do that shit and get away with it lmao, whether it's enough to warrant criminal prosecution is irrelevant - dude admitted to chatting up a minor. End of.
All of a sudden everyone is a lawyer
Because yall people cant even bother to search up California’s state law.
All of a sudden people realize 17 is legal in the majority of US states.
@@DeathmetalPersian Now explain to us interstate laws when the person of consenting age is in California.
@@DeathmetalPersian Or better yet, since you apparently know the kids age, why not enlighten all of us. I'd love to cite you as a source of this aboslute knowledge
Nah but that's a sad defense of a pdf. Gross
So many people on Twitter suddenly know so much about the the situation
Everyone of them suddenly became a lawyer and the prosecutor for some reason.
You mfs still moving the goalpost
No imagine if the exposed our government like they do these celebrities. Y’all this goes so much more deeper than your favorite streamer getting caught up. It’s a cultural thing and these people are sick
i mean, it was easy once dr d himself said he was talking inappropriately to a minor.
@@Icecube88 except it wasn't criminal meaning he more than likely didn't know they were a minor...but found out along the way...and even then there still hasn't been proof that it was indeed a minor...Twitch could've kept that part quiet themselves which is why they settled the lawsuit and why DD isn't in jail.
You wonder why women say that people dismiss their truths and victim blame. This comment section has been a constant source of proof for this for weeks.
Facts. They really taking up for that man
These are the same people that imagine teachers and transpeople grooming minors and screech about it. But someone they like comes forth and admits to speaking inappropriately with a minor and trying to meet up with them at Twitchcon and its suddenly not that big of a deal.
Must be a confusing life when your only political stance is to be reactionary.
"Their truth" So not THE truth. Victim blame... there's a victim here? No one blames the 17 yr old. Comment section has been full of "it's gross for a 35yr old, married, to message a 17yr old." In Canada, the age of consent is 16, most of Europe too so the anger over the age thing is weird to us. He is not a odep, just look up the definition of the word. If you plan to rob a bank and don't go through with it, should you be charged for robbing a bank and labeled a bank robber?
Like Amber Heard? There is no such thing as their truth only the truth. Have evidence to back up the claim. I understand it can be extremely difficult to present that but if they don't want it to happen to any one else then bring proof. Don't wait 10-20 years then expect people to believe you with nothing.
@@isaacgriffin5690 in 39 us states the age of consent is 16/17
Wow people on here are really trying to bring the attention off Doc. Damn….
Facts. They are creeps
It’s to cope . You know most gamers don’t have a good reputation with women
using the word "pedophilia" to describe something that doesn't involve a "pedo" (a child no older than 13) is crazy. It's stated clearly in psychiatry. Above 13 = ephebophilia, not pedophilia. Both are bad, but "pedophilia" has a much worse context. When you call someone a pedophile, people presume that the person was doing things to a little kid and should be rightfully incarcerated. When in reality it was a factually grown up woman that may legally start shooting porn in 2 months
if twitch had legal cause to terminate his contract they woulnd´t need to settle and pay him after the termination
Yea Im not sure why people keep ignoring this. If he did indeed break the law in anyway shape or form they would not have to pay him a single dime.
It could have had to do with twitch not supposed to be letting minors send whispers. Twitch might have much worse things they are covering up with other streamers that have happened and didn't want the reputation of allowing minors to communicate with adults on their platform.
Twitch allows chicks to stream in bikinis licking microphones. I'm not sure how good their age verification is but you would guess the amount of times those chicks have talked to 16 year old boys in an inappropriate way is probably staggering.
yall cant be for real... who cares about legal cause when a 35 year old man is caught by Twitch talking to a minor. even if she was 17-18, that's a very bad look for Twitch to not fire him when he already was already caught cheating on his wife
Because legality doesn’t always determine morality. Twitch decided to terminate based on his behavior.
easy they are a big company (amazon) for them this doesn't matter as longer as they can avoided any association what they paid to him is insignificant, and company's will always try to hide this things remember blizzard and they beardly face consequences, so what do they care from their point of view a this is nothing more than few messages.
Degrees of bad.
I agree with the, "paint in the best light," argument, and believe it's true, but this culture of 'convict in the court of public opinion, with no crime and little to no evidence,' that is also being extrapolated on for the sake of feeding people's need for drama and virtue signaling, is a sickness that is only getting worse - it seems.
People are literally dumb and/or malicious.
There's so many pretending the allegations (sexting/trying to meet) where admited to.
It's sick. the amount of people calling him a pedophile, with no evidence whatsoever is just disgusting.
@@nonyabisness6306 They should be worried about their local judges and teachers, statistically. Not even mentioning politicians.
The best possible light is he was a 35 year old man talking to a high schooler (minor) in DM's while he was married with kids and acting as a paragon of virtue against imaginary groomers (when he was, in fact, grooming a minor). We know (1) He did talk to a minor (2) The conversations were "at times" inappropriate. Seriously, you can criticize a pedo. What he did was absolutely immoral and disgusting, leaving the law out of it. It isn't clear if people at Twitch did their job and reported this interaction to authorities.
In states like California, "I didn't know" isn't a valid legal defense to talking to minors.
Its always been like this, its just that before nobody was on 24/7 media diet and there never was a large mass of people to react and condemn whatever it is, since that took considerable effort.
Now its just a click of a button and those doing it can get their shot of being a good person that works for 15mins, before needing another one.
Because they have nothing of meaning going on in their lives.
Thats the only problem with social media, the fact that it enlarges conversations and behaviors that have always existed but nobody ever was confronted about due to a disconnected world, and enhance the aformentioned in a very negative way.
Over where i live i say, translated, something akin to: "this has always went on under every church tower, we just didnt know about it because we were never confronted with it, with the internet it suddenly seems like its everywhere, and social media makes it look as if thats the only thing happening."
Nice. Focusing on the people who are calling out wronging, instead of the guy who actually did something wrong. Typical virtue signally BS
1:23
No it's not weird. It's two adults at that point.
Personally I dislike scummy old guys chasing young girls, but it's pretty hilarious that a girl who just turned 18 can create an OF page and do hardcore "content" for millions of people no problem, but then there's a huge public outcry for things like this
@@UnknownUser69698 You do have a point... and I think the moral line is so unbelievably blurred and the world is a fucked up place.
@@UnknownUser69698 Facts. If both adults, one being 19 and one being 70 decide they like each other, their prerogative. Nobody should be able to judge that.
Exactly. How about a 33 year old woman who had sex with a 14 year old, got pregnant and she got 0 punishment and he has to pay alimony? Now that's a real criminal left untouched, not this " messaged 19 year old " b/s.
Literally TLC have made bank for years and America and content creators eat it up when they show a 19 year old dating a 30+ year old man on international TV, which happens often. I think whats insane here is that Doc was married and had a family. You shouldnt even be entertaining this shit. You're playing games whilst you got a whole wife and kids. He really needs to make way better decisions and I can't see a comeback for him.
People assuming the girl was 17 because they are biassed and that's the least worst option and then the people just making up stuff like saying she's 19 even though she was stated to be a minor are disgusting. Why yall trying to defend a predator?
lol this funny men XDD
ah. the noble knight appears to let the plebs know, he is the noble knight because his moral choice in public discourse is the most sound, the most moral. /applause
deja de acusar a la gente falsamente moralista miado
Maybe because WE NEVER SEEN THE MESSAGES,what are these disguting messages? What does an inappropriate lean mean? Is it actual sex talk or is it just a bunch of dick jokes?
The issue is that it could've been him talking to a 17 year old have 90% of the talk be completely normal, and then once in a while sex joke, once in a while dick joke. Which look its still bad, its not really good to text minors and make sex jokes. But this is different and a lot more tame then "I want sex, give me your address, my dick is so hard for your gripper"
@@jeudiballsl5518why he talking to young girls anyway. He can’t get women his age? Sounds like a creep to me
all these people swinging the pedo word around with no proof
The louder you virtue signal the easier it is to hide your own misconducts. You'd be surprised how many of the people in the comments calling him a P-DO actually are themselves.
most people on twitter are pedos themselves so theyre just mud slinging to hide their own shit
@@mhchx3 "The louder you virtue signal the easier it is to hide your own misconduct"- Dr. Disrespect 2024
"sending inappropriate messages to a minor" 🤔sounds like a pedophile to me.
yeah, considering this all went to court and they found no wrong doing.
The California sexting laws are very broad and strict. How bad could the messages be if they aren't a crime?
The big wrench for me is that soliciting a minor is a crime and it's not the kind of crime you can NDA. In the state of California it lands you an automatic spot on the sex-offender registry. It would be public record. State attorneys and law enforcement don't just turn a blind eye to this kind of thing - at every point in the civil suit with twitch there would be multiple entities who would be legally obligated to report the behavior if it were occurring.
Even if we took a cynical view on it "local internet celeb caught using his platform to solicit minors and I'm the DA who pursued charges against him" is a golden ticket for your PR team. Minor's can't even chose not to pursue charges, Prosecutors do that.
There would be a paper trail for The People vs Disrespect and since that doesn't exist it would be inexplicable that there would be any level of actual guilt here.
and Doc won the arbitration on his contract and got the money, contract that surely includes some kind of morality clause as most talent/advertisment contract does
Point is he's not a pedophile and he never tried to meet up with or sexted a minor... full stop... if he did then child protective services and the feds would've absolutely destroyed him.
It's nice to see someone post something that is remotely sane. We have people running around claiming "texting a minor" is "illegal." The amount of legal disinformation floating around is crazy.
@@nicolaspeigne1429 He didn't "win" arbitration. Doc and Twitch settled over whether or not he was terminated in violation of a contract. We don't know (1) If he had a morality clause in contract to begin with (2) The extent of that morality clause and whether or not it covered the allegations. Some morality clauses require criminal convictions, for example. You don't know what you're talking about and all of the armchair lawyers should just pipe up. The man admitted to speaking inappropriate to a minor as a 35 year old, married, with kids.
I'd like you to give evidence for your claims, please.
That’s what’s been so confusing about all this . Yes it was creepy, irresponsible, and unprofessional of Doc to use his platform to text minors but like to what degree and how damaging was it ? That stuff is paramount in legal cases to determine an outcome or judgment and the fact that all these “journalist steamers” won’t even allow people to bring that up or acknowledge it is extremely troubling and is setting another dangerous precedent like we did during the Me Too movement. I have no horse in this race either I just hate people that use third party hear say to destroy someone’s career without proper investigation. And until we see the messages and parties positions how can we automatically cancel this guy for being a pedo? People are going off of the info his company and people surrounding the situation are relaying to us . Like can we just see the proof for ourselves before you tell us to cancel him lol
If you go after him, you have to go after the females marketing themselves knowingly to underage males. It's the same crime...
This will not happen because that is where hypocrisy appears.
When she is a hot woman, talking to a teenager.
Nobody cares, most people think it's funny, and possibly call the boy a virgin.
Oh, there's no such thing as pedophilia or morality that a lot of people are spewing in this chat.
Your terms are acceptable.
I agree, that's for sure...But then, I guess we would also have to seriously study the long history of underage prostitutes (male and female) in USA politics and government, starting by the literal president and his son (and previous ones, of course)...and then going by every single figure of importance, including of course, all of those who have close ties with intelligence (american or israeli, which at this point is the same)...But of course, we ALL know that whatever shit is happening in twitch is WAY more important than whatever is happening behind closed doors in the government, right?
eh i mean this shows the ambiguity in it no? if you post nudes to everyone then a 14 yo goes oogling intentionally the crime is more of exposure, not soliciting minors. indeed its "soliciting" not flirting and so on that is illegal. but then its the same just with texts. ive had 16/yos try to sext me before on some platforms, you ignore them or block them or whatever but the actual crime of "sexting back" is kinda ambigious no? its wrong but its not exactly kidnapping them or smth lol
It's not the same crime he is openly admitting to entertaining the conversation I was a doc fan but I'm not guna compare anything to the fact he admitted guilt to inappropriate messages
Guys seriously? He is married with a kid, he had no business texting another girl regardless if she is a minor. My god
This fanbase is neck beards
That's the thing I don't get with these comments, Jesus
Are you suprised they are fans of a guy who doesn't shower, smears blood on his walls and lives surrounded by trash and cockroaches loves to make fun of being too soft yet the moment you type in chat something he doesn't agree with you are instantly banned, loves to make fun of people being bad at games yet when he plays he doesn't read tutorials and then quits and cry on stream for the game being too hard yet they still take everything that comes out of his mouth and blindly agree with it.
@@mates9816 🥱
And it is somehow your business?
Clown
We need to see those chat logs.
All these people throwing PDF word on DOC so freely like they're Online PDF Converter😂
Yea doc is such a douche bout time
Nerd
I mean it in the most jealous way
Doc would never.
p3DOC is evolution back to back texter with wife sleeping in room, true champion
So we’re going to cancel doc but people on **THE LIST** have not been canceled? Make that make sense to me, please.
Cancelled
He isn't rich, nor powerful. He's a guy on Twitch/UA-cam
Internet fame =/= IRL Fame. It also doesn't give you the same celebrity status. You also need a network of powerful or influential people, such as actors trying to bring Kevin Spacey back.
@@DamienDarkside these celebrities get their money from something though. A lot of them are actors. Could we not collectively stop watching their movies like everyone has (will be) collectively stopped watching Doc?
@@rodgetech you must be British. You see, here in America we spell it “canceled” because we gave you the extra “L” back in 1776.
Um, power difference son. The people on LIST can wave hands and change stuff around country/world. Doc is just some Streamer. Compared to people on that list he is like you compared to CEO of UA-cam.
Taken years to build reputation, and minutes to destroy it
Aint no way Mohg beating the allegations before Dr.disrespect.
It's always a shock to see Americans outrage over a guy “talking” to a 17 year old girl, since in my country it's perfectly common/normal 🤣
in American girls aren't adults until 32
You don't know the age of the individual and a 35 year old married man grooming a 17 year old would be highly inappropriate and is illegal here. There are countries where it is acceptable to do much lower, which is fucking disgusting, and those cultures are breeding grounds for groomers
Why is everyone claiming the girl is 17?!? None of us know how old this girl is. Where did you find out the age of this girl? It seems like you people are pulling the age 17 out of nowhere to try to defend DD.
Again, I ask where did you get her age from? It's not been made public. She could be 12 to 17 for all we know. No one knows!
@@taylan3363 Mate there are like 18 states in the US where the legal age is 16.
@@taylan3363 So 18 is legal but any country that make 17 legal is disgusting ? you should learn context
I just don't understand how twitch lost the lawsuit if it's as bad as we think it is because that is a huge thing to put forth as evidence against him in civil court or not.
Because its not as bad as yall think it is. lmfao
Illegal and morally abhorrent can be 2 different things.
Not only that, but if the guy reported him to the authority and nothing happen that's probably because there was nothing to begin with
They didn't lose a lawsuit, they settled because it is easier and cheaper than to pay legal expenses. Settlement is an easy way to part ways and the way that the vast majority of civil lawsuits are addressed, they have nothing to do with indicating wrongdoing. You are spreading misinformation. What you know from Doc himself: (1) He was talking to a minor (2) The conversations were "at times" inappropriate.
@@nickender7094 bro, morally abhorrent would've broken his moral clause, voiding the contract.
and yet the contract was upheld.
about nr.3: i don't think doc believes in all that horseshit like the pyramids, aliens and whatnot IRL, it's just part of the doc persona.
if he didn’t send pics or engage in talks that was bad and just talked then wtf he do wrong? any celeb can talk to a minor and be polite that’s what famous people do
This is litterly what a southpark episode describedwith one having an affair with an adult teacher and all the officers saying nothing but 'nice'.
Niceeee
Well, what's the crime? The crime is that she isn't doing it with me.
Noice
The chat was for 18 and up.
I would imagine when the message appeared, it was spicy, and he likely assumed she was 18, as the tos for the chat required users to be 18+.
They went to court, twitch was found liable due to an under 18 year old gaining access to the chat.
Twitch knew this would be bad either way, and all parties settled.
Ffwd 4 years? later and here we are.
That was my take on this so far too.
Literally have no idea on this situation but this sounds like some crap twitch would do ngl (also love your name)
so you're actually defending him without proof? making assumptions that he "thought they were 18." When there is proof of him talking to minors. You're a rapist defender weirdo.
This is as much a reach as the people who automatically think he was up to no good. None of you have a clue. So paint your little scenario, but don't complain when you read somebody else take the opinion that he was trying to hook up with a minor.
this is it.... this is what most people dont seem to get lol
Not a chance Doc has screenshots of such convo.
Who would have ever guessed a man literally named disrespect would not follow community standards and guidelines.
Why am I the only person that reads these tweets and thinks "this is a big nothing sandwich". He literally just described what a trust and safety team does, and said nothing about the doc situation.
I think what he tried to say was that Doc situation was extremely special and there was more intend behind. Atleat it seems to me that theres many other popular streamer doing this but getting unpunsihed.
Yeah he didn't actually say anything really.
Cause he's an unstable clout chaser. Dude's said he was gonna sue and burn down Twitch, then kept streaming on it lmao
Basically seemed like accusation via innuendo, which is about what I would expect from the people behind all of this. Don't get me wrong, Doc clearly misbehaved, but there's a pretty obvious campaign on to push misbehavior into the realm of severe criminal activity, when the facts available don't warrant that conclusion. Did he tell a 17 year old girl she looked nice? I don't care. Did he ask a 14 year old to meet him in private at TwitchCon? Bury him under the jail. Context matters, and we have none.
You're not the only one thinking that. We don't even know what was said besides it being "inappropriate". Well, there's a lot of inappropriate things to say to a minor or even on their presence so to assume the worst and act like he touches kids is a huge stretch and really weird. Not to mention the people throwing around pdf like they have proof he did anything to kids.
“I used to work in this department, and saw the conversations. ITS SO BAD, but I can’t say anything due to NDA.”
Yeah, that kinda makes me question everything. I hate the “I’ve seen it, but can’t say anything because..” excuse. Provide proof, or shut up. Also, why did it take the person years afterwards to come forward?
Finally, why did twitch pay the settlement? Everything about this is fishy.
He was speaking in general, not specifically about Doc. It's misleading as fuck.
@@fernwogteveril6935 It's only misleading if you're looking and clips from here and there without bothering to look at the whole story.
Oh, that's most of you.
The one post says the shit is rampant. Why did Twitch settle? So the Feds didnt get too curious and ask for their logs. It is cool to lose a couple big streamers, but imagine if a quarter of the streamers are being inappropriate. That might tank the company. Everyone involved wants the entire story to stay quiet.
They paid because he didn't commit any crime. I don't understand why Twitch did this, meanwhile there are many girls on Twitch almost naked and most of their audience is minors. I feel like it was something personal against Dr. Disrespect.
@@fernwogteveril6935I also think it's not necessarily illegal stuff either, but probably two +18 adults sexting in twitch dms. Which is also nasty and horrifying to read when these people work on your platforms. I'm sure the titty cam streamers get INSANE messages that the person had to comb through.
If dr disrespect was trans it would have set the lgbt movement back 20 year. But he's a conservative so it's just an average Tuesday.🙄
Facts
Asmongold fell off so hard
there was a clip where a fan didn't know he was playing with doc disrespect and he said he loved the the doc. Doc responded with "he can get on my nerves once and awhile" with the fan responding "not for me dude I love him". Doc preceded to break character and got off his chair while tearing up. and now with this situation the clip almost has a different vibe to it because maybe deep down Doc KNOWS he is not living a moral life, "he can get on my nerves once and awhile" after a fan expresses their support followed by the break of character because at the time his fans didn't know what he was doing behind the camera.
I used to believe he cried in that clip because he was shocked a fan could show this much support of him even to a who the fan thought was just a stranger on a video game. Now with this context I believe the doc was crying because in that moment he knew his bad decisions would eventually be found out the fans who showed so much support and love for the guy would eventually learn about him.
People start to use the word pedophile like ppl use racist. For example the legal age for consent is different in every country. How you can sentence a 12 year old kid to life in prison but you cringe at a 17 yo getting a text is beyond me.
In Canada its 16 and I was a 17 yr old once and let me tell you some girls that age can be ruthless. Nevertheless Asmon is right when he says Doc is shit at decision making. Age of conscent or not a grown ass men with a family shouldn't be trapped by a 17yr old girls even if this was Canada and legal. lmao
Great point, people like to draw a line in the sand between what's right and wrong but its not always that simple.
It does the opposite of the intended result too. It makes real pedophiles look better because the word is now associated with creepy dudes texting 17 year olds. Who would benefit from blurring the lines of what's a pedo? hmm
2 completely different things, my sweet child.
Watch out when talking about age of consent. Theres usually some caviat to that. In my country for example the consenting parties must NOT be more than 5 years apart in age. So its nice that age of consent might be "low" but that isnt neccessarily the whole thing. And Asmon pointed it out too. He was texitng with a girld thats closer in age to his Daughter than to him.
Hoeg Law has covered it. ToS of whispers is 18 unless supervised. Being unknowingly trapped is being the victim. This is more common than we like to admit. Yet we all know how teenagers act. Its just the uncomfortable elephant in the room.
Agreed
Does the ToS cover Twitch employees arbitrarily reading 1:1 messages without consent of one of the parties involved in the chat. From what I’ve seen so far that’s what it seems they did. Privacy nightmare.
The real uncomfortable truth is that if Doc was in any way "trapped" he would be screaming from the rooftops as it is literally his only saving grace. The fact that he couldn't fit that in there in his long as tweet says a lot.
Yup even if 17 is legal its still gross
What is this nonsense. The TOS of TWITCH is 13-18 "under adult supervision" but all it means is when you sign in to twitch you are claiming that you told your mom and she said OK. Twitch doesn't call your mom to verify. Hog Law sounds delusional.
17 is legal in almost every state lol
Legal not moral
Doc isn't the only one, honestly.
Hot take: An adult male having a normal, not sexual conversation with a minor with zero soliciting involved that never escalates from there shouldn't see his own life and reputation destroyed. Treating people like potential criminals by default is not fair to anyone.
EDIT: I was talking in general, not about Dr. specifically.
RE-EDIT: 40% of all instances of sexual abuse are committed by a family member of the victim, so if you're going to treat all random males like potential predators then you should probably do the same with family members. If you don't, you're being kind of hypocritical. Also, 90% of all instances of sexual abuse are committed by someone who is loved and trusted by the victim, so, again.
Agreed. But Doc himself admitted that it got inappropriate. To what extent? We don't know. Did he even know she was a minor? We don't know. So all we can do is wait for more light to be shed on it.
@@toxicgracie3772 Well, no. He admitted that is sometimes leaned that way but never crossed the line. Or else he would not be on vacation. He would be dead
I almost guarantee it was some anime profile pic person who was asking for industry advice and this person most likely was just being flirty.
He stated that no pictures or sexting occurred.
Most would have stopped or not react to the flirts, be a professional, but nothing illegal had happened.
He said it was sexual
The word you are looking for is "straw man" not "hot take"
This whole situation is shedding light on how messed up people really are on social media. People already determined if he was guilty or not.
Cope harder. The dude was shifty af too begin with. All this showed was that all the talk about "gotta save them kids" goes out the window real quick when it's somebody they like. Stanning for a PDF file aint a good look, my guy. Pick your heroes better next time.
people are literally going around saying he admited to being a pedo and trying to fuck a minor.
absolutly sick.
@bacchus8081 yo, r*t**d, I've literally hated Dr Disrespect the moment he cheated on his wife. Literally saying "DONT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS" is not a bad thing.
yeah right now there is nothing but hear say. no hard evidence at all. we do have evidence that is from an investigation that says no pictures where sent and no meet up happened and there was no wrong doing on his part. but fuck all of that
@@bacchus8081 We do have to save them from you.
Isn’t 16 the legal age of consent. It is in my state at least. I mean yeah it’s weird but it’s technically not illegal so people are kinda taking the situation farther than it is
It's 18 in California where Doc is, we don't know where the minor was. And in a lot of states, it's Romeo-Juliet laws if age of consent is 16, which only makes it legal for partners up to around 21-23 usually. Doc was 35. Completely illegal in California, and in many states where it's 16 as well.
@@pocketaces6756 I’m pretty sure doc lives in Texas
@@maddoxbretzman5727 Ok, if he does, then my bad. I don't think that arguing about consent laws does too much. He hasn't been arrested, and most people frown on 35 year old men sexting with girls under 18. It's creepy and dare I say, "sus".
@@pocketaces6756 I wasn’t trying to argue I was just simply saying I think he lives in texas
@@maddoxbretzman5727 I didn't take it that way. But it has been confirmed by NickMercs that Doc does indeed live in California. I meant no argument, just responding.
Streamers have become the new Catholic priest
18 years old girl in corn movie with 50 years old man.
please, sir, this is UA-cams comment section not a search engine
The corn man is eating corn while taking her from behind.jpeg
but they are legal!🤓 they can make their own choices!🤓
But we’re not in a corn film, now are we.
@@thesmallscout9810weird logic you have, assuming you care a lot in regards to the non "corn" one .
If it is so much worse like this Twitch employee says and clearly insinuates about Doc, then why would Twitch pay out the full contract? Isn't that completely shitting all over Twitch as well? Also, if Doc is holding things back that would paint him in a better light, it also might still be wrapped up in an NDA, ie. if Doc didn't know the age and Twitch fired him (unfairly), part of their agreement could have been to keep that a secret. Maybe, maybe not. We don't know if Doc knew the age. We've got Drake out here messaging teenagers for sure though. We don't know if Doc was messaging a male or female, we don't know if it was, say, a non-sexual rude joke about somebody else, which is technically 'inappropriate' or a sexually motivated dirty comment, and the difference is huge. We know Twitch has strict terms of use concerning grooming, and if Doc was culpable of something seriously bad then how would he win a settlement with them? I don't see jumping to the worst conclusion possible without all the facts as appropriate (ironically).
Its why twitch settled for MORE than what he was suring for. The courts would jack that shit up to the nth degree.
Dude literally came out and said it was his job to report this stuff directly to authorities. If his whispers were truly this disgusting, where are the criminal charges? I'm tired of this he said she said. Either show receipts or stfu. Tired of these popping in my recommended especially when there's no actual evidence.
because they didn't have a clause to terminate the contract under. just like people cannot terminate contracts easily without loads of money, neither can companies. If there were anything relating to this conduct that would allow them to terminate, it would likely not be void if it is outside the statute of limitations. Further, they would have to then go through a costly and lengthy court process in which it would become apparent that Twitch does not effectively screen and moderate content on its site to protect minors. Much easier, and cheaper, to pay him out and keep everyones mouth shut.
Contracts do not terminate outside of terms specified in the contract unless one party is unable to fulfill their end of the transaction, so even if he was found guilty for texting a minor inappropriately, if he wasnt sent to jail they likely *still* don't have an out for the contract.
Bruh, we got drake making out on stage with kids caught on camera, yet they are acting like this case is the worst case imaginable when it involves someone talking with text messages over twitch lol
@@UltimateTiknutwhat other evidence do you need he said himself he was texting minors sexually. What more do you need? I pray you don't have children
To the Doc glazers: If Mini Ladd didnt get a pass, neither should Doc
Mini Ladd: had legitimate evidence of him stexting minors.
Doc: again tell where are the messages? Because what he admitted can easily be him talking to a 17 year old and making a couple dick jokes a couple sex jokes. Inappropriate, yes. Should he be canceled not really.
@@jeudiballsl5518taking up for a creep I see … why he like lil girls so much ?
@@jeudiballsl5518 When Bloomberg is willing to trust their 3 sources to publically print that he "exchanged sexually explicit messages with a minor", I'd say there's enough evidence. Just because you can't read them, doesn't mean its not there.
Dude's cooked...
Why are there suddenly 1 minute ads on this Channel??
Again, this is just another ‘Source: no for real bro-‘ until someone shows some evidence
Keep coping and sticking your head under the sand
@@Gnomesmusher It was in court.
Bro you get likes with this comment its cool but you can look up any of the videos that are showing proof
@@skeletonegaming don't you have to be a certain age to use the whisper feature?
@@jayhunt6199did he confess to knowing she was underage tho? Genuinely asking I haven't seen anything
I love how everybody on the internet Acts all shocked that a man is chatting up a young teen hottie fangirl. Outrageous isn't it? We would never....So phony.
So he reported him to the authority and nothing happen? Yeah so it's a nothing burger.
not even that, it was his job to do that, he never said he did that for doc... in fact he never talked about doc's case in particular, just that he saw people do that kind of things
So noone finds it absolutelly apalling that someones job is to literally go through someones personal messages...
@@Asghaad That's sort of how moderation works. If people are using your platform to plan criminal activities you could be held liable for it.
@@Asghaad when you report that someone dm'd you some vile stuff, what do you think happens exactly?
@@Asghaad new to the internet? nothing in here is "personal", they are always watching
He failed to call Saul
I don't think you understand. You need to be 18 to use Whispers. It's all Twitch's fault here. From his point of view, everyone using Whispers is 18+. Twitch probably paid him a lot to stay quiet and not mention anything about age.
without having to believe anything he said, you have to consider that these dm's where disclosed in court.
so a judge looked at this and did not find any criminal content. heck, not even enough to break the moral clause in his twitch contract, as that contract was upheld.
a lot of people are making the worst possible interpretations here.
and talking about unnamed pedo's on twitch in this context is damn near slander.
They settled, so they never went to court or went before a judge
(1) The case was settled. (2) Civil proceedings are completely independent of criminal ones, and the threshold of evidence required is also significantly lower.
Talking about unnamed pedos is not near slander, because slander deals with defamatory remarks made against an individual.
Doc admitted to talking inappropriate with a minor, in most jurisdictions in the US, "I didn't know" isn't even a legal defense. The question, of course, is whether or not he knew (which he likely would have said).
@@taylan3363 Cool, so Twitch didn't go to the police when they have evidence of criminal activity. Cool. Reasonable.
@@taylan3363 do you even know what inappropriate means?
@@taylan3363Might want to check your last paragraph. Is it a defense that he didn’t know or is it not important?
Am I crazy for still thinking this isn't that damning? Most people are talking like he's a confirmed .pdf but it's still pretty vague.
This exactly. This man did not go out and chase little girls and rape them.
He DID have what seems to be inappropriate messages over the internet with someone it seems.
If that is all it takes to get slapped with a pedo tag... we are ALL fucked.
i wouldnt say hes a confrimed pdf. but no doubt hes a predator / groomer.
like other disgusting pigs in his position , interestingly enough they all say the same thing. but i didnt do anything worng. it was just msgs. i didnt have any intent.....digusting mfers
I mean he would be a pedo if she was like 12 or something
I feel like there is a pretty big difference between messaging a girl who is 12 and messaging a girl who turns 18 in a month. While no grown man should be doing either...the difference is one is a legit child and the other is a month away from being able to do porn. So to me....this detail matters
That is probably why the details are not coming out.. although I would think if she was ALMOST 18 like that he would definitely release it. He should be screaming that everywhere IF that was the case.
glad you're not making laws - the law is the law. You're a minor, you're a minor. There is no debate.
@@keepitsecret-dl1pr not exactly, each state has an age of consent, so even if the person is 17 or 16, some states have that as the age of consent. So therefore it would be legal to text a "minor" since by the state it is legal age of consent. There is a difference between a 12 year old and a 17 year old. Not that either is socially acceptable in his case, but since you brought up "the law".
@@keepitsecret-dl1prright and I agree with you 100% but the thing is he didnt break the law. As far as know the police have never been involved in this matter...or has that now changed?
Ofc this guys fanbase is trying to defend this behaviour
Still waiting for a single piece of evidence though.
Docopium
Like the part where Disrepect.PDF literally admits to inappropriately messaging a minor in his own words? That sort of evidence?
Or you do expect a personal guided tour of the datacentre hosting the chat logs and the complete chain of custody of the data?
Newsflash: Data on minors is protected in pretty much every developed country on the the planet. No one with a brain is releasing any chat logs because that would be a crime.
@@psyborg4706 not fully wrong tho -- I mean there is definetely something suspicious and weird going on but it's very unclear how bad it really is? "inappropriate" is so vague that it could be anything ranging from being rude to a joke that didnt land to disgusting heinous shit -- I personally do feel suspicious but reserve my judgment for when I actually know just how bad it actually was -- I feel like that is reasonable
You can’t give evidence to someone who’s made up their mind to begin with. They just double down because deep down they know they were in the wrong and their fragile ego has to cope somehow.
@@psyborg4706 "Everyone is innocent until proven otherwise, except if it's someone I don't like"
-Twitter user.
If the police didn't find wrongdoing, I'm going to continue to assume innocence that he did nothing illegal in those messages.
Bro admitted to it 🙏🙏😂
Edp never went to jail and there is actual evidence.
@@NBAdux didnt admit to any legal wrongdoing
@@NBAduxTo flirting? That's not illegal. No images, no nudes, no meet ups. He did nothing legally wrong. Morally? Yes.
@@NBAdux
No he did not. He said he did nothing illegal but some stuff said was inappropriate. Sexting a minor is against the law
You have to consider that these dm's where disclosed in court.
A judge looked at this and did not find any criminal content. Not even enough to break the moral clause in his twitch contract, as that contract was upheld.
Doc really cooked himself Infront of the whole world.
It's inappropriate but If the Doc was an inexperienced, 35 year old, unloved virgin who was curious about women and romance, i'd understand him chatting to someone of say 17.
17 is immature but by no means a child.
For reference Keira Knightley was 17 in the first pirates of the Caribbean movie; i'm betting a lot of guys found her attractive regardless of that fact.
But the doc was married, with kids, so looks like he was just being a creepy fella.
the one thing i don't understand is how come the court didn't prosecute him for this when doc sued twitch. clearly the court had to see the messages and yet doc won, got the settlement and twitch paid out. im sure grooming minors is illegal and yet it seems there was no wrong doing.
Because it went to a civil court not a criminal court. This was also most likely done in arbitration.
Most likely there wasnt, but internet loves drama and see Rich people suffer. So basicly even if Doc messages would be leaked and theres nothing wrong there people would still blame him as pedo by simply interracting with underaged girl. Nothing new here.
Likely because nothing illegal happened. Either due to Doc not knowing the age, hence you can't objectively prove he did it intentionally.
Or the specific texts that we haven't seen weren't enough to warrant it and remained in what's legal and we just have Twitter andys assuming the worst about what's inappropiate.
It's likely one or the other, it also may depend on what state the lawsuit took place or what state the girl was located in as some states are more or less strict about romantic relationships aslong as nothing sexual happens.
@gbpg2016 True, but if there was anything of merit, even a civil court would have referred this to a criminal prosecutor for investors.
You wanna know why? Nothing relevant happened that's why. It's obvious
Yeah, but Twitch still had to pay him to terminate his contract. If they had solid evidence he was doing this, Twitch wouldn't have had to give him money. This would have come out in discovery as well. I still say he's innocent of an actual crime. He doing something creepy? Possibly. But I don't think criminal.
Innocent of a crime. Guilty for lacking morals, texting a minor inappropriately while married with child.
@@TheRed4123 didnt the twitch emails state that he didnt know she was a minor and once he did he stopped
@@wowthatbolivar4400 werent those emails proven to be fake?
@@wowthatbolivar4400 I think he did know she was a minor, but he wasn't actually sexting or trying to meet up, he was just making inappropriate jokes. Which is against Twitch's policy (hence why they banned him) but nothing criminal... I mean they settled out of court and literally paid him off.
If he was guilty of wrongdoing then Twitch intentionally paid him off and refused to go to court and expose a pedophile, and help a pedophile remain free to prey on more children. Think about that.
@@TheRed4123You don’t need to be a criminal to have your contract terminated. You are trying to convince us that Twitch doesn’t have a general morality clause in their contracts?
The other former twitch staffer, Rellim, was fired for sexually harassing female streamers on the platform and now is clout chasing. Watch the interview from one of the ladies (FarrahFauxx) that were at the center of it all.
If you are married, it is weird to message anyone of opposite sex regardless of age. It can also illegal depending on the context of the message.
I never understood why internet personalities would take the risk to contact in private a stranger unless it's for business. Just don't do it it's not worth it
The broader take away from all of this is "Don't shit where you eat".
I never understood how morally bankrupt redditors who spend all day online just realize 17 is legal in the majority of US states.
@@DeathmetalPersian Found the pdf file trying make it justifiable.
@Mashedtaders the take away from this is that redditors are the same people who burned witches and would kill you based on a half baked rumor.
Buddy nobody knows the age of the individual relax. @@DeathmetalPersian
Someone being "not a good decision maker" is a concept I needed.
is it just me or 'Whisper' sounds like they knew what it would be used for when they were naming it and they had a lot of fun during the brainstorm?
in canada your sexual consent age is 16. if you ever go out in a bar, alot are 17. most of the just chatting audience is 17, a 17 years old can be sentence to adult prison. Ive seen 16years old tease people in sexual manners a 30 years old women couldnt, theres two cents to every story. lets see text
lmao Canada. What a dump. Source: I'm a Canadian trust me bro.
@@matguimond92 Bruh, lets not act like our country is standing on some great high ground here lately. We are a big pile of shit too as it stands.
@@Am4t3r4su I'm literally a Canadian. I live in Manitoba. The city I live in roughly translates to muddy waters. Ironic since they dump raw sewage into the river from the north and south ends of the city. Our doofus city council has spent billions on an "expansion" project that should of been completed back in 2011 or something I don't know thats way off topic.
Not disputing. I was talkin about America.
yeah sounds about right.
"I'd like to make a quick statement"
*proceeds to write ten paragraph essay*
Do you hate reading bro?
If there’s one thing we learned from President Clinton it’s that Americans will forgive past wrongs, however, they are far less likely to tolerate being lied to. The Doc tried to bs his way out of this, and only changed his tune once he was cooked. Even now, his admission is still half baked.
Actions have consequences. So long Doc.
Does anyone remember when Bhad Bhabie started OF on her 18th birthday just after midnight then she ended up with 1 million+ before the day ended.
So people waited until midnight just to buy her content the second she turned 18 that's a bigger problem.
The bigger problem is that she has any money at all, instead of being on the street like she belongs.
It's called reality. Maybe it's not ur reality but it's actual reality
So you wanna arrest all 1 million+ people? She chose to make an OF and it's her legal decision at 18.
@@OttisR0tthat made no sense.
@@nubbylittlecat1753 reality says 18yo = adult => you can't stop people from waiting for first second of a girl being 18yo.
If that's a problem... you have far bigger problems to solve first
I will refuse to believe any stance until i see hard, concrete evidence. Release the messages and redact anything personal related to the minor to protect their identity. It's that easy. Until that happens, innocent until proven guilty. Morality judgement is an entirely different argument. This is strictly criminal or not.
Reasonable take
They will milk it for much longer. Why end the ride sooner?
@@bengsynthmusic just long enough for it to ruin his career like callmecarson. people are actually still telling him "wow you came back" THREE YEARS after it happened.
did any of you guys in these comments even read docs full tweet?? Bro literally admitted that he was talking to a MINOR in that tweet!! what evidence do you guys need the man ADMITTED IT 😂😂🤣🤣
HE ADMITTED IT!!!! his fans right now are just as shameful for supporting this predator! I'm pretty disgusted actually.......
>Is it weird for a 35 uear old to be messaging a 19 year old?
I literally could not care less. Also my girlfriend is 21 years older than me so a 16 year age gap doesn't even phase me.
The person was a minor, so the oldest they could possible be was 17 at the time.
That is a felony if he the conversation was inappropriate, regardless of whether or not you have a problem with it and are pro groomer like Doc
SHE ISN'T 19 ASMONGOLD WAS USING THAT AS EXAMPLE
@@BussinandDiscussin No shit.
@@taylan3363no crimes were committed, no pictures were exchanged, no meetups ever happened and no charges ever brought.
Youre leaving out a bunch of details bro, not just some 35 year old. A MARRIED 35 YEAR OLD
So if it was that bad, and Twitch has to report these to authorities.. Then why wasnt Doc ever arrested or charged? Why did Twitch settle rather than run it through the courts instead of paying the man multiple millions of pounds? - Everyone seems so hung up on the allegation, theyve neglected and overlooked some important and crucial aspects of the whole thing. And this isnt a Defense of Doc btw, its just pointing out that, if it was as bad as people are claiming it to be, then why havent we seen legal action taken against him?
One anon twitch employee stated the discussions started between the two about business opportunity and how Doc and his team could help, so thats how it started. It also claims at the TIME Doc didnt know the individuals age (this came later) and again, as ssoon as these "whispers" were investigated, they would have to be passed to the proper authorities, as grooming is a federal offence, and if grooming is a federal offence, and Twitch reported the messages, then why wasnt Doc prosecuted and why did he take Twitch to court and why did Twitch settle?
We live now in an age were the internet has provided everyday people an outlet to point and scream, without any evidence. And this creates a situation where even people who are still not aware of whats went on, and havent seen the evidence, are using this 3rd party, 4th party, 5th party information as Gospel and acting accordingly. Everyone is speculating and assuming the worst, but not considering other things. Its a shit show.
because it's just a character assassination and take down of a white male.. Nothing more
Having sexually explicit conversations with a person underage is definitely illegal. I don't know how you'd skirt charges in that case
19 year olds are still "technically" teens, but no one considers that to be a commonly used definition. Also, women in their 20s dating men in their 30s is extremely common simply due to the different money/power/status dynamic between the sexes. Nothing weird about it. When you consider the fact that women reach "physchological adulthood" faster than men and that women have to watch their biological clock if they want to have children (most men are fertile well into their 50s, while female fertility drops off a cliff after 35), you have a mix that promotes this diffrential age dynamic even further. 10-15 years of age difference is nothing.
The age of the individual isn't known yet
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@@MercurialStatic white men go into wars if the power balance is messed up lmao; and you know it be true too; like if a man could get two wives here; the system would collapse FAST
@@MercurialStatic did you snort ass hairs or what the f has happened to your brain?
Absolute Facts. Also, 19 Years Old is already an adult, a Young Adult.
Good to see all morality knights are worried for a 35 talking to a 17 while also fighting for those 18yo girls on yachts and VIP clubs surrounded by guys 40+. Hope in humanity restored! 🙏
(1) You don't know the age of the person, you are making that up (I assume) based off of someone's anonymous fan fiction "e-mail". That same person refuses to identify themselves or show any evidence they were ever associated with Twitch. (2) Doc has had rants about imaginary groomers while grooming a minor (3) A 35 year old talking "inappropriate" to a 17 year old would indeed be inappropriate, and is illegal. Deal with it, that's the law.
No one in the public knows how old she is. Stop pretending you know. Unless you want to share where you got her age. Asmon even said that no one knows, he pulled the age 17 as a hypothetical.
She could be 12 for all we know. Stop pretending that you know how old she is. Funny how the "provide the evidence" crowd is spreading misinformation like this.
@@taylan3363 If (3) was the case, there would be a criminal case that there wasn't. Where have you seen him grooming a minor (2)?
@@taylan3363 room temp iq again. Inappropriate does not = sexual. If what you said was true, why is he not a registry list?
@@taylan3363 if that was the law, it wouldn't have ended with twitch settling with him
Ages 18-19 are fair game in my opinion as they are considered adults, what i DON'T like is that the fact that the excuses based on ages 16-19 are made, Age Of Consent may exist, but they are abusing it to get away with bullshit, no matter the damn gender
I'm curious if anyone knows off-hand, what the timeline is between doc's "stupid fucking mistakes" and the timeframe he was inappropriately chatting with a minor.
Until it comes out that he knew they were under 18, was actually texting inappropriately, etc etc, I mean, show the proof (I'm not saying there isn't any proof or that I believe Doc), until then, it's all speculation and no one benefits from this discussion. If crimes were committed, it needs to be giving to the authorities to process it. Period.
Wdym, he admitted to it?
he would have said she was 18 or older but didn't.
agreed.
If hearsay was trustworthy, we would all be in jail over rumors.
I'm waiting for actual hard evidence still.
yep. I hate fucking drama. Its all hearsay.
Still waiting on the evidence
You’d wait for permission from the rain to drink it, I bet.
It’s not coming, unfortunately. If Rellium is right, Twitch is just another pedo ring and it will be burned to the ground if it got out.
@@KingCerynof course you would drink rain
@@Super-il9nb there’s that GenZ education lol.
@@Super-il9nb you wouldn't? You know it's just water ?
At 36, I seriously dated a 19-year-old, even doing family holiday dinners and more, on both sides. Lasted about a year. Everyone at least tolerated it, some even accepted it graciously. Thing is, I WASN'T MARRIED WITH KIDS.
You’re still a creepy, look for people around your age
Doc got a green light on him now
Anthony Kiedis from RHCP is 60 and dates a 19 year old
Chad.
"It's just a minor thing"
Chili peppers are such trash these days. Uplift mofo was the best they ever were.
@@l750z_6 No, Anthony.
So what you're saying is, two consenting adults are dating each other. Fascinating. And by 'fascinating' I mean, 'has nothing to do with the Doc situation.'
In Denmark it is 16. Our foreing minister was with a 16 year old and still got re elected
Americans wont understand because they think whole world revolves around them ...
This is how the chads of history behaved.
It's 16-17 in most US states too
bruh. Austria it's 14 and can be even 13 if the other person isn't older than 3 years. 12 for sexual acts not amounting to sexual intercourse or other acts that can be equated with sexual intercourse aka penetration. LOL in most european countries it's between 14 and 16.
@@notuxnobuxThere's a state in the US it is even younger which is wild 😬🤷🏾♂️