Building Fortress Europe? Migration pact divides EU parties ahead of elections • FRANCE 24 English

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  • Опубліковано 9 кві 2024
  • It's not only in the US and UK that border protection is on the ballot. The European Parliament's vote on a migration pact was always going to be a nail-biter, especially two months out from EU elections. We ask about the close result and about burden sharing, this as the numbers of those crossing the Mediterranean hit their highest level since 2015.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 85

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan Місяць тому +26

    Poland has taken in millions from Ukraine, that is quite enough... they deserve a sincere thank you for that.

    • @user-yv8cn3ot4g
      @user-yv8cn3ot4g Місяць тому +11

      No country should be forced to take even one person. We need to protect our countries, people and traditions. Diversity destroys diversity.

    • @johanexxxx
      @johanexxxx Місяць тому

      No, they get no thanks for being greedy and taking all the desirable migrants while refusing to share the burden on the undesirable ones.

  • @reconstructo
    @reconstructo Місяць тому +58

    Surely rights of migrants aren’t more important than the right of citizens?

    • @VictorPanainte
      @VictorPanainte Місяць тому

      If you were born in Africa, you may sing a different song 🎵

    • @filipe5722
      @filipe5722 Місяць тому +1

      Neither are more important than human rights.

    • @PatrickJane-jq9zs
      @PatrickJane-jq9zs Місяць тому +5

      @@VictorPanainte I can say the same for you: If you were born in the Soviet Union you may sing a different song...!

    • @PatrickJane-jq9zs
      @PatrickJane-jq9zs Місяць тому +1

      @@VictorPanainte Still, The LAW is LAW! Show a Document, Passport, ID card, Residence Card whatever.. Still! If you are not Ukranian, you are not allowed to enter to Hungarian territory without any ID/Passport!

    • @startarot5876
      @startarot5876 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@VictorPanainteexactly

  • @hourbee5535
    @hourbee5535 Місяць тому +73

    We love the sound of fortress Europe.

    • @wadestclair249
      @wadestclair249 Місяць тому +1

      Fortress Europe ...MMORPG.. ?

    • @mikusoxlongius
      @mikusoxlongius Місяць тому

      Is Russia a threat or are they fighting with shovels?

    • @MilenaBlazanovic-oq2iy
      @MilenaBlazanovic-oq2iy Місяць тому +1

      Not big enough this fortress, I don't want any more imigrants in my country, enough is enough!

  • @MilenaBlazanovic-oq2iy
    @MilenaBlazanovic-oq2iy Місяць тому +16

    Unfortunately Europe is not fortress yet, but with a different members of EU parlament in up coming elections, we will change it

  • @Elainerulesutube
    @Elainerulesutube Місяць тому +25

    Yes, keep the migrants out!

  • @user-md4if2cw5q
    @user-md4if2cw5q Місяць тому +17

    POland has got the right to reject the immigration from 3 world country Poland never had collonies. AT prezent millions refuge frmo Ukrainie People paying for this.. fully..

  • @Korp49034
    @Korp49034 Місяць тому +39

    And why this expert thinks that Europe should stop pushing back asyl?) If it is too much. Learn language, get job and skills, and then come as a needed worker. Not a person who comes - i just want to live in your country, provide me everything

    • @luciferjohnson8495
      @luciferjohnson8495 Місяць тому

      And how many languages have you learnt in your entire life?

    • @fan2hd277
      @fan2hd277 Місяць тому

      For that you need a immigration policy on European level and we are far from it.

  • @arisplugis5197
    @arisplugis5197 Місяць тому +6

    God bless fortress Europe!

  • @Chronoir3
    @Chronoir3 Місяць тому +14

    I find it absolutely amazing that a French news channel chose the title *Fortress Europe* hilarious!

  • @GreenOliveBranch
    @GreenOliveBranch Місяць тому +6

    I don't know if it's a good or bad thing but for me indicator is reaction of left wing parties and asylum seeker NGOs. As they are not a bit happy about the new regulations I take this as a positive thing for Europe and Europeans. Also interesting to see Liberal bigots started seeing illegal immigration as a problem...

  • @user-md4if2cw5q
    @user-md4if2cw5q Місяць тому +10

    IN Poland millions refugee from Ukrainie This big burden for polish people.. payng for food. locum. education of the childre,

    • @Izya_Rabinovich
      @Izya_Rabinovich Місяць тому +1

      they want to change the ethnicity of Europe. Ukrainians don't count

    • @KarinRamey-uk6sq
      @KarinRamey-uk6sq Місяць тому

      German also, and have to take migrants?

  • @JulesVerne1800
    @JulesVerne1800 Місяць тому +12

    Great article title, yes that is what people of EU need. The safety of an fortress. We all are feedup with all this immigration incidents. Last weeks an 4year old was stabed in Germany by an syrian.

    • @VictorPanainte
      @VictorPanainte Місяць тому

      Crazy people are everywhere, not only in Syria. How many Syrian people you know that work day by day and are very good people.

    • @fan2hd277
      @fan2hd277 Місяць тому +2

      Well Germany total failure on illegal immigration is a specific problem. Germany CDU still refuses to vote on a legal immigration policy and the gov in place is weak the issue of dealing with the current situation so…

    • @attilakovacs6428
      @attilakovacs6428 Місяць тому

      @@fan2hd277 There are only left-wing parties in Germany! There is an exception, AFD, but it is banned and is only popular in the former DDR. Germany is lost.

    • @sophiahitch726
      @sophiahitch726 Місяць тому

      Your logic is victim mentality I dont know what happened in the scene. That doesnt mean people should stop preventing criminals from entering their own country no matter where in the world ​@@VictorPanainte

  • @maxineadderley5378
    @maxineadderley5378 Місяць тому +7

    There is a difference between people meeting the criteria to enter the country than to have people who are just showing up, who may not be able to be independent of the social programs adding to the already overburdened system

    • @Minnie--ru2ew
      @Minnie--ru2ew Місяць тому +1

      True. The migrants need to be vetted and enter legally.

  • @dareks.3040
    @dareks.3040 Місяць тому +4

    Any EU country govermant can't just say no to this policy, they have to accept certain amount of immigrants or they will be fined 20 000 euro for 1 person. It doesn't matter what was the policy of these countries before, how much they were protecting their citizens for illegal immigration - they have to surrender to that policy paying for the supidity of the other countries rules. Poland by example, we accepted about a 1 million legal immigrants from Ukraine because of war. It was simple thing, natural because they were in great need so polish peoples open their houses and hearts for them because I'm sure they would do the same for us. Very rare they were in some camps, mostly peoples private homes, some appartments. BUT! It doesnt't matter now. They are counting the illegal imigrants only! Look... In example.. An immigrant comes to Italy -> Italy is sending him by bus to some other country and recived 20 000 euro for it. What does it look like? Getting money for a person. Human trafficking. Slave andlars were doing the similar deals. It was just illegal then. And now?? It's just sick!

  • @gracchusbabeuf9868
    @gracchusbabeuf9868 Місяць тому +11

    Fortress Europe will become the castle of Dracula. Gather garlic and wooden sticks for defence.

  • @JWSitterley
    @JWSitterley Місяць тому +5

    The 150 year "Paris-Commune" period is finally coming to an end.

  • @MrGreen_
    @MrGreen_ Місяць тому +1

    It’s now the end of my country as in know it Ireland is no more when if this passes

  • @WadudSyed222
    @WadudSyed222 Місяць тому +4

    EU should focus on Economy.

    • @Minnie--ru2ew
      @Minnie--ru2ew Місяць тому

      According to the reports, crime has increased due to illegal migration.

  • @mikusoxlongius
    @mikusoxlongius Місяць тому +1

    Nearly 3 million subscribers? The Metrics ain't mathin, baby. I call BS.

  • @bobbydennis8333
    @bobbydennis8333 Місяць тому +2

    “Been that way for 30 years.” - U.S. Justice Department on the lack of Human Rights in Oklahoma County Jail, 2020
    “Makes me feel human again after this place.” - Oklahoma City Art Museum review after life in the local shelters (20+ years in the making), 2024
    “It is said that no one truly knows a nation until one has been inside its jails. A nation should not be judged by how it treats its highest citizens, but its lowest ones.” - Nelson Mandela 🥂🥂

  • @Vanasuss
    @Vanasuss Місяць тому

    One working slave for eu costs 20k. maybe better buy directly from africa.

  • @yaro137
    @yaro137 Місяць тому

    Center right government in Poland now haha you made my day.

  • @anthonysavio3875
    @anthonysavio3875 17 днів тому

    Migration is good for Europe if well managed.

  • @axelpro09
    @axelpro09 Місяць тому +1

    They escape here? Ok thei need ported directly in Ukraine front

  • @DansChewy
    @DansChewy Місяць тому

    Forticious

  • @mrpucket5736
    @mrpucket5736 Місяць тому +13

    How about helping the countries of origin so the migrants don’t need to flee. This is only addressing the symptoms not the problems that cause people to flee in the first place. Yes I know that this would be very hard but this is only going to get worse as climate refugees increase.

    • @jozq9277
      @jozq9277 Місяць тому +1

      You can't buy high IQ to Africa... You can put trillions of euros to these countrys and More people will arrive to europe don't you see... West has put money to Africa like forever and population has exploded and there is no Jobs no nothing. Just young population with nothing to do. Africa Will never develop to the standars of Europe Unfortunatly.

    • @Jen-lg4hp
      @Jen-lg4hp Місяць тому +13

      Why are other continents our problem? Billions in aid sent to Africa over 60 years and NOTHING changes.

    • @mikusoxlongius
      @mikusoxlongius Місяць тому

      You chant it like a mantra. It is your religion and you can't abide heretics.

    • @user-ly1fk9kk9d
      @user-ly1fk9kk9d Місяць тому +2

      We are talking about a full continent and another half of Asia. How should Europe bring all those countries to a decent economy?

    • @aas5775
      @aas5775 Місяць тому

      Europe exploited and intervened in these countries for years. Now you guys are paying the bill of messing with other territories and getting their resources.

  • @ABO-Destiny
    @ABO-Destiny Місяць тому

    Low skillled immmigration strategy should always be coupled with upholding of standards in quality of service, quality of civility, society, environment, there is a danger in courting low skilled workers and not controlling and regulating their activities and not taking measures to ensure quality is not compromised.
    The other factor to consider should be social impact. I am very circumspect of populations who is not willing or not able to integrate within european societies by european standards and finds it difficult to let go off their traditional cultures and ways of life.
    For such groups proper monitoring, training, analysing and withholding of residence permits is the way to go.
    It is also important to understand that most of these immigration problems of europe should be tackled at global level with comprehensive global approach and actions otherwise they may work for somebyears to come only which is however an immediate necessity but in long term.a global approach is needed.

    • @attilakovacs6428
      @attilakovacs6428 Місяць тому +2

      You pay the immigrant for nothing. He lives in his own community in his own culture. He doesn't care about work, he doesn't care about the language, and he doesn't care about your culture! All he needs is the free money you give him! And he will ask for more. And you work to support him, you have nothing else to do, you are a servant!

    • @ABO-Destiny
      @ABO-Destiny Місяць тому

      @@attilakovacs6428
      A global approach is very much needed and global organisations like United Nations and its arms strengthened or new ones formed to monitor and enforce these measures.
      However most of the rot of any well meaning approach to problems of group of individuals be that at village level, or national level or global occurs from within the controlling setup.
      So it is undeniable that post WW2 global setup was long dealt a blow from within the controlling ranks in west with support fir a zionist state in middle east. Who was responsible, who controlled the decision making processes is not difficult to understand nowadays but the fact is global organisations which were setup to ensure a just arrangement is in place for all , albeit with former colonial rulers at helm were malfunctioning to some groups convenience then.
      But that was before I was born. In my lifetime I am witness to repeated flouting of agreed upon agreements by India on Kashmir and again global organisations were happy to look the other way round under the argument that Kashmir is an internal affair.
      So what was the purpose of organisations like United Nations then. To monitor and mediate in disputes between new nations and prevent large scale loss of lives from conflicts or to ensure peace is established around the world?
      If it is former it has somewhat succeeded in its goal and through its different branches it has been able to address dire humanitarian situations world over which I feel was our biggest and most purest possible form of benefit received from the new setup. However i am sure if ensuring peace around the world was its goal it had failed right at the very beginning.
      I am absolutely fine with western societies and former colonial powers steering things in right in direction, they have the historical mandate to do so and over the years they had proved to be much more capable of ensuring the new setup functions properly.
      However, those internal sabotages from whatever sources coupled with external sabotaging attempts from various ideological, religious, ethnic blocs had all ensured any good intention behind such actions which followed the traumatic period of early 20th to mid 20th century are not made to function.
      And we are now approaching similar calendar period in 21st century and things are already starting to flare up.

  • @MartinPHE
    @MartinPHE Місяць тому +2

    Pretty easy Europe write a Check for 500 Billion to the USA for Ukraine aid.

  • @balsarmy
    @balsarmy Місяць тому

    Fortress is also dangerous. Combine two tactics

    • @fan2hd277
      @fan2hd277 Місяць тому

      Yes we need a bridge called immigration policy. Asylum is at the end of the issue.