Great test. I was told today by a high-end AV retailer that HDMI cables should be no longer than 5 meters, and you must use a balun to extend over CAT 6 cable. He was going to charge over $400 for this. You've just saved me a lot of money with this video. Thank you.
i cant thank you enough for your video. i have spent a lot of $$$ on cables and joiners and endless headache as i always thought that my receiver is the culprit and bad cables. i just couldnt accept that my flagship receiver kept dropping the signal over 30+ metres cables... i even got a replacement hdmi board for the receiver and it was still the same... until i came across your video and realised that ces spec cable length is only about 5m...
wow, i just love what you did, simple, fast and clear, especially taking all the possiblities of lengths and abilities of repeaters and splitters. i now have an idea. thank you
This helped me a lot for my recreation purposes. I have my PS4 which I play GTA V Online in my studio and sometimes I want to play in my bed in my room which is in my house. So I measured I needed 20-22 meters of cable to make that work and a solid splitter. Thank you, sir.
You seem to have missed the point of a buffer (repeater), which always goes BEFORE any long cable run. It's not about restoring a degraded signal; it is about boosting the signal to maintain a useable signal through a longer cable. Start with your shortest patch from the camera into the first repeater, then the 20m cable; then if you want to go further add another repeater before each subsequent cable length. The next problem is the 5V required to power the device... HDMI spec includes a 5V rail, however this voltage will drop over the length of the cable(s)
Not true...the repeater chips are about error correction so need to be placed where the errors are greatest, ie at the end of the longest lead. @@AdrianLeeYC
Hi I have a question about hdmi repeater vefore the hdmi switch. I need to use repater on path 20m long and then i need switch. But this solution not working.
Cable length is also affected by wire gauge size of the individual conductors. Typically this is only 28 AWG (American Wire Gauge). Two larger AWG conductor sizes are 24 AWG and 22 AWG. I found that 22 AWG could go to 100ft (30m). The drawback is that the cables themselves are much thicker. FYI, 28 AWG = 64ohms/1000ft, 24 AWG = 25ohms/1000ft, 22 AWG = 16ohms/1000ft.
If you need to run long HDMI cable runs consider HDMI over fiber optic cable. HDMI do not carry analog signals so there are no AtoD/DtoA converters. Just simple digital circuits to regenerate the digital signal. Length does not typically affect fiber optics until you get in to many miles or kilometers. I have been using the 100ft AmazonBasics 4K HDMI Fiber Optic Cable for $60 with no problems on my 1080p rig without problems. They also have 150ft, 200ft and 300ft lengths. You probably want to use some sort of cable reel for these longer lenghts. Like the Bayco Kw-110 Storage Reel.
Hi Adrian, I have had a similar issue using 10M HDMI cables (3 x) to cover around 7.5M for an AV setup. I had no signal or rather an intermittent signal. My cables had been coiled up like yours in your video. You should uncoil them and try again. I uncoiled mine and it now works fine with no booster. I think coiled cables may affect the signal drastically due to interference etc.
HDMI max range is only 50ft /15.3 meters so basically from the splitter to the end of the first 20m cable there is no more signal for the repeater to amplify. Thats why it did not work in between the 20 meter cables. The proper test is maybe to use a single 40meter hdmi if there is one available. and put the hdmi repeater after a shorter hdmi cable from the camera. I also noticed at 4:35 that the input light was out. Maybe the reason why there is nothing on the monitor.
I have a 4k 120hz OLED 77" tv. And I don't want to move the PC. It seems passing HDMI signal is not possible through extenders. The 48gbps is a little bit too much unless you go for industrial solutions.
fwiw I'm a pro installer and I NEVER attempt to push HDMI past 50'....it just results in intermittent problems.I always use HDbaseT and it always works perfect, cheers
I want to connect over a very short distance. I want to play videos from my PC on my TV. I have two cables. A 5 meter and 15 meter. The repeater should work for this short distance, right?
So just one 20 meter 4k hdmi cable from a projector to a powered 4k hdmi splitter will work without using any extender?? The distance I need is only 15 meters.
I saw in another video to best use a powered (active) repeater. However they warned that a repeater shpuld always be attached at a distance before the HDMI signal weakens, which on average is at 15 feet. From Source to 15 feet to repeater to another 15 feet to receiver such as a monitor or projector.
The splitter will definitely work because it is powered and needs to be plugged to the AC. I am testing this HDMI repeater for places where I have no access to power.
Hello, I am trying to do the same setup with a 4k cable 10m from source to a repeater and then 20m to display. There is video signal but it keeps dropping out about every 15s. What could be the cause for this?
Thanks for your teaching, Adrian. Please I have a particular request and need your guidance. The distance between our fixed projector position and technical operators is about 40m and we are researching on what lasting wired installation we could bring in to operate and manage the projector from this distance. What can we really do about this particular case? Thanks in advance.
I don't recomend those cables since i bought 2 of them both of 10 meters and yesterday i conected my splitter to my capture card and it goes black and signal returned like 1 second black and 1 second signal
Anepch I use a 300ft fiber optic hdmi cable and works flawlessly. It’s pricey but worth it. Sewell direct has a few different lengths. Or you can go a cheaper route and do Ethernet to hdmi with really long runs.
7 to 8 metre hdmi cable can produce clear hd image and good sound clarity..without any disturbance or signal hanging..? Or i have to use repeatre..? For projector and home theatre.
HDMI signal is ment to work up to 10m max, rarely can a device (laptop camera etc) push the signal beyond 10m by itself (12m if you are lucky), use a repeter or extender for more, and don't buy hdmi cables longer than 20m I'm surprised that even those work.
so let's suppose i have 25 m hdmi cable, and this transmitter. i want to connect projector to laptop Should i connect 1. 1-2 m hdmi from projector to transmitter 2. transmitter 3. 25 m cable hdmi 4 . laptop will this work?
I have 3 meters hdmi cable connected to a popup hdmi coupler then connected to 20m hdmi to projector. Is it possible to get an HD video quality if i put an hdmi repeater between my 3 meters and hdmi popup?
Unfortunately you didn't explain ANY of the resolution and refresh information. Who cares if a 1080p signal can be sent 500 feet...no one uses 1080p anymore. So did any of this run 4k@60fps? We'll never know :D
@@AdrianLeeYC Hey Adrian, sorry if I sound upset, it's just with fiber optic HDMI cables, you can get 100s of feet of throughput based on the signal. You can send up to 4k@30hz over 50 feet no problem, with cables made up to 300 feet. But at what cost of signal loss is the major important question, since after you spend all of this money on hardware, you find out the details just aren't there. So after dropping 200 bucks so far, I am trying to solve issues that apparently no one else seems to have found, or at least made a video to show solutions to.
@@woocifer Thanks for your comment again. Yes, fiber optic hdmi cable will be so much better, but my low budget project was for a one-time event to display video to a 1080p projector. 😃
You never tried 40m the way the device intended (cable to device, device over a 40m cable to the display), you tried to have the first device provide enough power to the 2nd device to get it to work... Yeah, good luck drawing THAT much power through the HDMI, I expect that the devices can't actually power another one down from it..) From you config, you should be able to do a 10m cable > device > 40m cable (No, not 2 20m cables with another device in the middle, that won't work), I would use a single 40m cable if you wanted to get a proper test. Also, keep in mind that your camera is providing all the power for the device (it has to come from somewhere!), so if it is running on batteries it will drain them faster..
Hello, I got one hdmi cable 15 meters and other is 5 meters. I try connect them using Unitex extender I got weird issues when I try open google website siganl starts disconnecting. When i open youtube or other website I even tried play video everything works fine. Same issues with other computer and with other cable. This problem dissapear only when I connect projector directly to laptop. I upload video of this problem here: ua-cam.com/video/6kWE6-RzrPU/v-deo.htmlsi=rLD73TfIQwIOrZkO
Great test. I was told today by a high-end AV retailer that HDMI cables should be no longer than 5 meters, and you must use a balun to extend over CAT 6 cable. He was going to charge over $400 for this. You've just saved me a lot of money with this video. Thank you.
i cant thank you enough for your video. i have spent a lot of $$$ on cables and joiners and endless headache as i always thought that my receiver is the culprit and bad cables. i just couldnt accept that my flagship receiver kept dropping the signal over 30+ metres cables... i even got a replacement hdmi board for the receiver and it was still the same... until i came across your video and realised that ces spec cable length is only about 5m...
It's been 4 months. What solution worked for your system?
The best and most complete test I've ever seen. Thank you a lot!!
wow, i just love what you did, simple, fast and clear, especially taking all the possiblities of lengths and abilities of repeaters and splitters. i now have an idea. thank you
Glad it was helpful!
This helped me a lot for my recreation purposes.
I have my PS4 which I play GTA V Online in my studio and sometimes I want to play in my bed in my room which is in my house. So I measured I needed 20-22 meters of cable to make that work and a solid splitter.
Thank you, sir.
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i have to admit, this video deserved my like & comment
You seem to have missed the point of a buffer (repeater), which always goes BEFORE any long cable run. It's not about restoring a degraded signal; it is about boosting the signal to maintain a useable signal through a longer cable.
Start with your shortest patch from the camera into the first repeater, then the 20m cable; then if you want to go further add another repeater before each subsequent cable length. The next problem is the 5V required to power the device... HDMI spec includes a 5V rail, however this voltage will drop over the length of the cable(s)
Good tip. Thanks for sharing.
Not true...the repeater chips are about error correction so need to be placed where the errors are greatest, ie at the end of the longest lead. @@AdrianLeeYC
Hi I have a question about hdmi repeater vefore the hdmi switch. I need to use repater on path 20m long and then i need switch. But this solution not working.
Cable length is also affected by wire gauge size of the individual conductors. Typically this is only 28 AWG (American Wire Gauge). Two larger AWG conductor sizes are 24 AWG and 22 AWG. I found that 22 AWG could go to 100ft (30m). The drawback is that the cables themselves are much thicker.
FYI, 28 AWG = 64ohms/1000ft,
24 AWG = 25ohms/1000ft,
22 AWG = 16ohms/1000ft.
Thanks for the technical tip. 👍
If you need to run long HDMI cable runs consider HDMI over fiber optic cable. HDMI do not carry analog signals so there are no AtoD/DtoA converters. Just simple digital circuits to regenerate the digital signal. Length does not typically affect fiber optics until you get in to many miles or kilometers.
I have been using the 100ft AmazonBasics 4K HDMI Fiber Optic Cable for $60 with no problems on my 1080p rig without problems. They also have 150ft, 200ft and 300ft lengths.
You probably want to use some sort of cable reel for these longer lenghts. Like the Bayco Kw-110 Storage Reel.
Thanks for sharing. Great tip on fibre optic cable for long distance HDMI connection.
it doesn't work properly is the signal isn't bi-directional especailly when used through an avr receiver.
Outstanding presentation, clear and concise! Thank you for sharing!!
Hi Adrian,
I have had a similar issue using 10M HDMI cables (3 x) to cover around 7.5M for an AV setup. I had no signal or rather an intermittent signal. My cables had been coiled up like yours in your video. You should uncoil them and try again. I uncoiled mine and it now works fine with no booster. I think coiled cables may affect the signal drastically due to interference etc.
Wow. That's a great. I will remember that. 👍
Can you show me , i dont get it
HDMI max range is only 50ft /15.3 meters so basically from the splitter to the end of the first 20m cable there is no more signal for the repeater to amplify. Thats why it did not work in between the 20 meter cables.
The proper test is maybe to use a single 40meter hdmi if there is one available. and put the hdmi repeater after a shorter hdmi cable from the camera.
I also noticed at 4:35 that the input light was out. Maybe the reason why there is nothing on the monitor.
I have a 4k 120hz OLED 77" tv.
And I don't want to move the PC.
It seems passing HDMI signal is not possible through extenders. The 48gbps is a little bit too much unless you go for industrial solutions.
感謝你的測試，非常完整，解決了我想知道的所有狀況，真是專業！
What about camera -> 20m -> Powered HDMI splitter -> 20m -> TV?
Thank you very much for the test! Regards from Brazil!
Thank you Mr. Adrian Lee! You answered my question nobody could answer.
I AM SUBSCRIBING NOW! Lol
Keep up the good work.
Great!
Omg this whole video is what i need to know. Thank you for testing out
Great
fwiw I'm a pro installer and I NEVER attempt to push HDMI past 50'....it just results in intermittent problems.I always use HDbaseT and it always works perfect, cheers
Thanks for the info 👍
What about fiber optic hdmi cables? I run 300ft and works perfect.
i cant believe he even got 20m at 1080
thank you very, i love your answer, because I was having same challenges at projection
You just won a new subscriber
Great test
This helps me a lot. Thanks bro.
is a 5 meters HDMI cable from pc to tv will display?
Yes, it will display. 5m is very short.
TQVM Sir, Very Helpfully for me to understand HDMI Cable Length thing.
You're welcome 😃
thanx for your test. Are you see a delay using HDMI Repeater?
No delay
I want to connect over a very short distance. I want to play videos from my PC on my TV. I have two cables. A 5 meter and 15 meter. The repeater should work for this short distance, right?
Have to test to know coz it also depends on the quality of the hdmi cables
i also encountered that same problem,could it be possible sir if i buy 40mtrs so i did not use any repeater,do think its working?
Tnx for your answer.
It is better to buy longer cables than to join two short cables
I want to ask sir, how about 10m cables and 15m cables hdmi using the repeater, is it transmit the signal or not?
This video review really helps. Thanks.
Going to install a hdmi extender soon?
what is the best way to run 100ft hdmi cable without signal loss
Fiber optic hdmi cable or cat 6 hdmi extender
So just one 20 meter 4k hdmi cable from a projector to a powered 4k hdmi splitter will work without using any extender?? The distance I need is only 15 meters.
I saw in another video to best use a powered (active) repeater. However they warned that a repeater shpuld always be attached at a distance before the HDMI signal weakens, which on average is at 15 feet. From Source to 15 feet to repeater to another 15 feet to receiver such as a monitor or projector.
Am facing 20by20 with joiner problem
Sir did you try connecting the powered splitter to extreme end of 40 m near monitor and then short cable to monitor
VEry helpful, my hdmi to cat6 to splitter is always malfunctioning, I'lI will try all hdmi cable via splitter with amplifier
hi bro how can I connect 60meters hdmI cable . I bought 20 meters(3pieces ) and the distance is quiet long
Watch my other video for longer distance... ua-cam.com/video/E3TxtWCzK7w/v-deo.html
Can we have a powered repeater in between, and pushed to 50 or 60 m ? Is it possible ?
From what I understand, the transmission distance is limited by the type of HDMI cable used.
@@AdrianLeeYC thank you for your explanation...
@@AdrianLeeYC Could you please explain what you mean by type? What do you recommend for the best "type" of cable? Thank you.
Hi Adrian, why don't you try to connect the splitter between the two 20 m cables?
The splitter will definitely work because it is powered and needs to be plugged to the AC. I am testing this HDMI repeater for places where I have no access to power.
guys 4k hdr cable which is hdmi v2 works 18gbps till 7.5 meters. then you need fiber cable or extender module.
Thanks for sharing.
Didn't the first test work with the two 20 meter cables with the repeater?
With a good cable will it support 4K 120Hz pls help
If I really need high quality and high frame rate, then I would rather get a longer cable instead of using a repeater.
VideoLane k ty
Have u try , 5m from source, then 30m to tv
Didn't try that. I'm not going to get a 30m hdmi cable too.
Good explanation❤
For 12 M , TV and amplifier home cinema, i need repeater or booster? ( tv 4k hdmi 2.0 i think, and receiver audio onkyo suport 1.4 ) THANK YOU
Hello, I am trying to do the same setup with a 4k cable 10m from source to a repeater and then 20m to display. There is video signal but it keeps dropping out about every 15s. What could be the cause for this?
Thanks for your teaching, Adrian. Please I have a particular request and need your guidance. The distance between our fixed projector position and technical operators is about 40m and we are researching on what lasting wired installation we could bring in to operate and manage the projector from this distance.
What can we really do about this particular case? Thanks in advance.
I don't recomend those cables since i bought 2 of them both of 10 meters and yesterday i conected my splitter to my capture card and it goes black and signal returned like 1 second black and 1 second signal
Let us know how you solved the issue. Thanks!
My pc to my tv work 10 meter cable without repeater work yes or not
I have a 10m HDMI cable and it works.
Lee can I connect two cameras to that connection if yes how?
No
Excelent testing. Thanx!
Hi, what is your video signal ? is it 1080i or 1080p ? is it 30 or 60hz ? Thanks.
In this video the camera output is 1080i 25fps
great video!! will it work with a media player and an 1080 projector? 10 mt+ interphase+2mts? thank you
2m and 10m are very safe. Will definitely work.
Tq. This video really help me to increase my presentation
All the best
What setup will work for a 40 meters connection without HDMI splitter to boost the signal?
Anepch I use a 300ft fiber optic hdmi cable and works flawlessly. It’s pricey but worth it. Sewell direct has a few different lengths. Or you can go a cheaper route and do Ethernet to hdmi with really long runs.
7 to 8 metre hdmi cable can produce clear hd image and good sound clarity..without any disturbance or signal hanging..? Or i have to use repeatre..?
For projector and home theatre.
A "high speed" HDMI cable should work.
Very good video
THANKS for sharing your experiment!!
Why would you need so much hdmi cable? What situation?
How long can a straight HDMI travel from a DVR to a monitor?
is it reliable to use HDMI to RJ45 dual converter for a distance of 100meters?
Will this specific only for 4k, 1080P can use this repete?
Yes can. I used it for 1080p.
Thanks a lot Sir
I like this video very much
Cool. How about latency?
Very good Information 👍👍👍
what if a direct 25 meter hdmi cable from camera to monitor without a repeater? can it work?
thanks in advance for the answer.
HDMI signal is ment to work up to 10m max, rarely can a device (laptop camera etc) push the signal beyond 10m by itself (12m if you are lucky), use a repeter or extender for more, and don't buy hdmi cables longer than 20m I'm surprised that even those work.
Hi, can you do test on cat6 cable please
so let's suppose i have 25 m hdmi cable, and this transmitter.
i want to connect projector to laptop
Should i connect
1. 1-2 m hdmi from projector to transmitter
2. transmitter
3. 25 m cable hdmi
4 . laptop
will this work?
I have 3 meters hdmi cable connected to a popup hdmi coupler then connected to 20m hdmi to projector.
Is it possible to get an HD video quality if i put an hdmi repeater between my 3 meters and hdmi popup?
Laptop is my source and projector is my output
I bought a pair of Sanwell HDMI extender repeater, they didn't work, paid about $60, plus shipping & import duties, and it wont work,
Thanks for letting us know.
Thanks for information bro 👍
Welcome
Hey like your vid.. May I ask if it work with 1.5m + 30m hdmi cable from mirrorless camera to capture card?
Excellent video
Thanks for the visit
can I use 15m hdmi cable without repeater?
If end to end is 15 metres, then a 15-meter cable is good enough.
Dear friend , thank you for your vdo. I would like to ask you how about 15m and then hdmi extender and then 20m. Do you think it will work or not
Wooow this video is helpfull
You are great!
Hi Adrian, is it 4k resolution?
Menidi City No. Just 1080.
@@AdrianLeeYC misleading title
@@jamskof I'm just typing out the product name as printed on it. I'm sorry if thats misleading. 😭
Helpful information.. Thanks for your conclusion.
Thankyou and God bless you.
This was so helpful and exactly the problem Im having right now and trying to resolve.
Thank you very very much.
Unfortunately you didn't explain ANY of the resolution and refresh information. Who cares if a 1080p signal can be sent 500 feet...no one uses 1080p anymore. So did any of this run 4k@60fps? We'll never know :D
Anyway, thanks for taking the effort to leave a comment.
@@AdrianLeeYC Hey Adrian, sorry if I sound upset, it's just with fiber optic HDMI cables, you can get 100s of feet of throughput based on the signal. You can send up to 4k@30hz over 50 feet no problem, with cables made up to 300 feet. But at what cost of signal loss is the major important question, since after you spend all of this money on hardware, you find out the details just aren't there. So after dropping 200 bucks so far, I am trying to solve issues that apparently no one else seems to have found, or at least made a video to show solutions to.
@@woocifer Thanks for your comment again. Yes, fiber optic hdmi cable will be so much better, but my low budget project was for a one-time event to display video to a 1080p projector. 😃
@@woocifer I've also tried extending the distance using cat 6 cable solution... ua-cam.com/video/E3TxtWCzK7w/v-deo.html
20 meter cable + hdmi switch + 20 meter cable test?
I think it didn't work well
Thank you sir for my problem solution...
Hi..interesting testing...I have the same repeater.....so far I push from camera to 10m hdmi to repeater to 10m hdmi to monitor. It is ok....
Have you tried 20m and 20m on both sides.
Adrian Lee nope,
muchas gracias, me ayudo bastante. Me suscribo
Thanks! Good stuff
thnx!
Hi, and what about 4k?
no chance
That device is a re clocker. Install it at the monitor.
Optic fiber HDMI would help
Yes. My friend bought a 50 meter optic fiber hdmi cable and it worked like a charm without adapters or repeaters.
4,2M HDMI-A😀👍🏻👍🏻2K 3D 4K 8K Ultra HD
You never tried 40m the way the device intended (cable to device, device over a 40m cable to the display), you tried to have the first device provide enough power to the 2nd device to get it to work... Yeah, good luck drawing THAT much power through the HDMI, I expect that the devices can't actually power another one down from it..) From you config, you should be able to do a 10m cable > device > 40m cable (No, not 2 20m cables with another device in the middle, that won't work), I would use a single 40m cable if you wanted to get a proper test. Also, keep in mind that your camera is providing all the power for the device (it has to come from somewhere!), so if it is running on batteries it will drain them faster..
20 meter to 20 meter no problem but 20 meter to 30 meter. yes or no
20 meters is already pushing it, but I haven't tried 30 meters.
that is not 4k going through.. no chance
Of course not. I'm just testing the product with that name and specs.
Adaptador Emenda Hdmi Amplificador Repetidor Booster 1.4 4k
HDMI REPEATER BOOSTER
Hello, I got one hdmi cable 15 meters and other is 5 meters. I try connect them using Unitex extender
I got weird issues when I try open google website siganl starts disconnecting. When i open youtube or other website I even tried play video everything works fine. Same issues with other computer and with other cable. This problem dissapear only when I connect projector directly to laptop. I upload video of this problem here: ua-cam.com/video/6kWE6-RzrPU/v-deo.htmlsi=rLD73TfIQwIOrZkO
Probably you need a higher grade HDMI cable
@@AdrianLeeYC I resolved this problem connect 2 extenders over ethernet cable now it works well 💪
That repeater is trash. I got the exact same one and it does not work at all
Bom
It's pronounced AGE, not HAGE...
Age Dee Am I?