Shouldn't the construction company have to pull permits also. Where did the state think they were gonna get the water to fill the tanks that they were building
Right!!?? Ant the state inspectors for the project didn't question where the water came from and where it was going AFTER the water test was complete?? We are all not so ignorant!!
As a rancher with that much experience, he knows damn well what permits he has and what permits he doesn’t have, and that smile on his face says it all
So what happened to the water when they were through testing the tanks? I can just about guarantee that they didn't just dump it out on the ground because that would be a bigger story than this. So very likely it went right back into the ground and into the Aquifer it came from.
Mr King accepted responsibility without complaint, agreed that the State Engineer had regulatory authority over the use of the water and did not make up a bunch of flimsy excuses for himself. You don't see people do that very often so I think I'll take his word for it. If the remedy is that his ability to use the well is suspended for enough time to mitigate the diversion I don't have any problem with that.
@@noyopacific..but he’ll make $100’s of thousands on the transaction and will shut down that 35 acres until next year. He’ll just move the crops that would have been on that land to another piece.
@@lowandslow3939 I'm not ready to accept the assumption that the farmer was fully aware of the limits on how the water from his well could be used. He certainly made no effort to hide what he was doing. I used to have an agricultural well myself that produced 6-700 gallons a minute. If someone had offered to pay me a couple hundred per tanker load, it wouldn't have crossed my mind that I might not be permitted to do this.
OH BULL S, everyone knows how important water is there, its a farm well , He should be fined a large amount and not allowed to irrigate any of his land for 2 years. @@noyopacific
I’m assuming he saw dollar signs and went for it. I never heard of a farmer or rancher selling so much water. Even if you have extra, you sell it to other farmers. Where is this water going after the tank test?
I was thinking the same thing where are they going to use the water hopefully to water other fields. For the one who says it's a joke there is no joke about wasting water I don't care how many days of water it is. We are in severe drought even if it doesn't look like it at the moment.
Exactly! He didn't think he'd be called on it, because of his wealth! From the sounds of residents wells going dry, because he's began using the firehouse pumps, he's STILL getting away w/it, AND he has govt PROTECTION!! Protect the haves, screw the have nots!! My heart goes out to the HAVE NOTS!
Rev. 01. My wife and I, live out hear in Stanley, near where they have been pumping out the aquifer. Although they have reportedly stopped, they are now pumping from the nearby Volunteer Fire Station's, hydrant. My well, and many East Mountain resident wells went dry as well, during the first pumping, we had to haul water from town for two months and make over $3000.00 in repairs to the well. We lowered it another 50ft, which put it at the bottom. A lot of wells went dry out here.
Lds church bought 400,000+ acres of irrig farm lands in NW Nebraska.. to get at the undrgrnd Ogallala Aquifer... Mirmons are desperately trying to use mormon constitutional sheriffs to seize homes to sell cho to other mormons to move to NE COLO & NEBR.
Now you see the problem with living in basically a desert, there are places not meant for human habitation or cities and those aquafers will not refill again like they did long ago, there simply isnt enough rain to do it
@@bryanx590 Africa had a desert. Starting in 1981 a gentleman used termites to hold back the desert. Now, we have climate change and river piracy in the skies. If people took theirs eyes and fingers off their damn phones and looked up...surprise.
Problem with all this is the Water aquifer isn't only under his Property and it doesn't only affect his property. It affects the whole surrounding area and every Ranch or homestead within Miles of his Ranch. They suck it dry and everyone's Wells will run dry and be useless not to mention dropping the water table quickly like that can cause safety issues with land splitting wide open.
The last time I checked land never floated on water. Water doesn't (belong) to anyone. They may claim it but that's no different then this rancher selling access to it. What it all boils down to is the state is pissed they didn't get thousands of dollars for something they claim but don't oun.
*Slobbering, shaking, heart beating so hard you could see his shirt pumping, smirking slightly, etc...* *If this was a lie detector test it would have blown the machine up.*
And now you see why libertarians and right wingers don't like regulation. It's not because we don't like rules and quality control. It's because we know that's a failed tactic, and want to try better ways to achieve the same thing.
I think you missed the part where they state that Mr. King cannot irrigate his land for 1 year. In essence, he sold his water and cannot pump more. What I would like to know is how much he pumps in a year for irrigation. Is this sanction fair to his neighbors who share the aquifer?
It can't. Else King would have already paid a fee and be back in business with the construction company. If he'd applied for a permit, the engineer would have to check if the water usage would deplete levels negatively and could have specified a return-to-source path for the water, to get it back to the aquifer for use. That's what a permit application is supposed to trigger.
How else would we pay the regulators? A license is what you get when the government steals your rights away from you and then sells them back. It's how our system works. Has something to do with civilization, I believe. It was here for a little while before we showed up so we use it. Probably won't last much longer if certain people have their way. Many will fight for it.
Good one Ken🤙🏽☮️ yup you nailed it...Poland Springs water, coca cola, Pepsi, the list is hurtfully endless. Water thieves even on Maui for 100+ years🤙🏽💖🏝😢 and when you think of all the waste of precious water millions of gallons millions upon millions that are used for theme parks and golf courses in rich people resorts.....just so distressing. And the water regarded for human consumption is nothing short of poison.
Axis losing millions of gallons to foreign countries. It’s illegal to grow alfalfa in Saudi Arabia so they’re doing in the desert of AZ with NO RESTRICTIONS on amounts pumped!! Thanks Hobbs.
find some new podcast trash to regurgitate those farms were shut down awhile ago and what exactly does Hobbs have to do with anything those water rights laws have been in place for decades and still are but hey at least you got some thumbs up
@@marknicolich5789 it looks like it JUST was reported on back in October and November of 2023 and the Saudi farms shipped the alfalfa back to Saudi since 2015. That is pretty recent for something so blatantly, in-your-face-America aggravating and shouldn't be forgotten for a second unless you, too, think man-dress boy in Saudi Arabia is a pretty great guy, too, and doing wonderful things. The Saudi company, Fondomonte, does own 10,000 acres outright versus the leased land that Hobbs is reversing the decision made by a prior governor - opening the state up to a law suit. This is backup water for Tucson and Phoenix. The laws better catch up with the reality or water misuse and theft is only going to increase. Meter all of the wells and plug them as punishment for abuse. Edit: You can monitor well production from a distance with the new-fanged technology - ask any pumper who lost their well-paid, cherry job to it being centralized at the office and done by those who knew or learned Python in anticipation.
The King ranch has been in business since 1917, and the owner didn't know anything about the water usage rules he was violating? Come on, Mr. King. Really? It appears to be a case of "anything is for sale for the right price".
Alcohol distillation lowers the water table in Iowa for mandated gasahol subsidies to farmers, nothing new about government sale of resources to industry
@@seeharvester you'd be surprised how much water it actually takes to irrigate land ,,, 1 acre foot of water 325,851 gallons of water ,, 11,404,785 gallons of water are what it takes to give 35 acres of land 12 inches of irrigation ,, so yea over a year 14 million gallons is easy ,,and most crops easily need 18-24 inches of rainfall
35 acres of land unable to plant for a year is actually a big hit to a rancher that grows his own feed ,,because he will have to downsize his cattle herd accordingly or buy feed from another ranch ,,and knowing farmers the way i do being a 4th generation iowa farmer ,, the other farms in the area knowing he got penalized will stick it to him or might even refuse to sell feed to him too,,plus he still has to pay taxes on that land and maintain it ,,leaving ranch land fallow for even 1 year invites all sorts of weeds to take root and vermin to move in , critters like prairie dogs and ground squirrels love fallow farm land ,,and all of those weeds and vermin have to be controlled
I thought the most interesting part was that the state knew about and permitted the construction a mere 5mi away. The state knew what would be required for construction and use once complete. Where did the state think the water was going to come from? Money for the permit was always going to make the same water available for construction.
@@randywise5241 "Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time" was around loooong time before even MY time, nevermind GenX and that was a gall dang loooong time ago. LoL
Yep. This boils down to one thing- Bloated Government. Our nation is a disaster right now, and these idiots are losing their minds over AT MOST ~6 days worth of irrigation. I am so sick and tired of city folk.
@@ernestjoiner3040they'll be starving soon enough. These conservationists are going to get a good lesson in okay, if it's so easy, here you go, do it yourself. Peanut gallery.
Think you meant preservationists. Conservationist promote use of resources, but not the total destruction of them At the end of the day, these impressive sounding amounts they are talking about are negligible. It's a story to rile up the informed. The water table is fine.
Everybody seems to have sidestepped the really crucial issue here. WHAT are they going to do with the 6 million gallons of water already in the tanks, now that they have been "tested"? WHAT was the purpose that the tanks were built for in the first place? WHO paid for the tanks to built?
Take as much water as you want and dirty it up too👌Gotta support big biz (donors)... screw the little guy. -Republicans Hey, we like Anheuser Busch again because they're fund raising for Dear Leader. -definitely Republicans
The question that needs to be asked and answered is IF BEFORE the pumping of this water was done AND the land owner AND Construction company ASKED for a permit WOULD it have been granted???
@@d-rot wrong, the LAND OWNER also owns the water UNDER his land. It's the INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENT who's regulations that have encroached upon his rights that is the problem. Hence my question ❓
@@d-rotright, because who but the state would know about the construction project and considered the impact on the local environment. Probably even including water and other stuff too. 😆 the state just wants their cut of the money.
Hes well aware of all water permits & legal water usage & they called it an oversight?? I call bullshi*!! Hes a liar & a thief!!! Sounds like there's protection in place for Mr cattle barron!Barron!! Look the other way for the haves & screw the have nots!!
Oversite? Illegal and got caught. Didn’t say how much he received in $$$ for the water. He is not being picked on. He’s actually being given special treatment. He should be charged with a crime.
I wanna know what happened to the water AFTER the tank tests were completed. Was the water put to good use? Did they truck it back to King Ranch so they could utilize it for irrigation?
Being on a well myself i totally understand this woman's concern. I guarantee you that construction company knew they were violating the law same as this man does.
Who permitted the construction after a lengthy review process where things like water requirements for the construction and maintenance of whatever the state approved them to build would be heavily considered. Probably.
I mean Los Lunas just tripled their contract with Niagra bottling company despite huge community outcry. Politicians dgaf about the community they serve - its all money.
You know that only the amount of water taken is equivalent to 6 1 acre-inch rains over 35 acres. New Mexico saved millions of gallons by not letting him irrigate all year. It is a tremendous penalty to King and Karen and a massive boost to the aquifer she is concerned about. Doers always have a target on their back.
@@greatplainsman3662 You're missing the point. Thirty-five acres is nothing ... he may even gain benefit for leaving the field fallow for a year. If the water sold was only enough to irrigate 35 acres for one year, they are really winding themselves up to a ridiculous degree over almost nothing.
How many gallons of water dose it take to irrigate 35 acres for two years??? Could it be equal to the amount he sold? Or maybe even more then that in a hard year. Plus, that is 35 acres of land not producing any income for two years, or hay for his cattle. Witch means out of pocket expense or down sizing hid heard. Maybe learn a little bit about ranching and what it cost to raise one from impregnation to action before bitching about losing the usage of 35 acre’s of farm land for two years is a small price for the offense.
Rev. 02. The tankers continue to role, there are six. They are filling from the same Volunteer Fire Department hydrant, located in Santa Fe County. The tankers are parked behind a motel in Torrance County. All 6, haul all day long every day except on Saturdays and Sundays. I contacted the Santa Fe county sheriffs' office, they said, they are allowed to pump it out, for use on municipal projects. Not sure what project they're talking about.
@@mchrysogelos7623 If you say so. That is what our ranch did. We lost our well water in the 70s drought due to another farmer putting in a deeper well. My stepdad put in a deeper well so we could have water. Call it what you want but it’s been done a lot lately.
This happens around EVERY oil field. The drilling companies buy water from random "water haulers" without questioning about where the water came from, those water haulers will steal water from anywhere they can get it.
He sold 6 million gallons of water and he claims he had no idea he was doing anything wrong?! The guy is only irrigating 35 acres of pasture off that well, he's either lying or he's a congenital idiot. He should be fined and be required to provide third-party water to any residents nearby whose wells dry up. What a jerk.
@billferner6741 you don't get it. Water! It comes from the ground! Oil, it comes from the ground. Is there some kinda secret magic that keeps them separated underground? 🤡
Even if Mr King knew he needed a permit or not, his handling of talking to the media with his demeanor is golden. Everyone public figure or company should take note like this in the eyes of controversy and stop being defensive
Rev. 03. The tankers continue to role, there are now eight tankers hauling water Monday-Friday out of Santa Fe County. They are filling from the Volunteer Fire Department hydrant, and the community water source in Edgewood also located in Santa Fe County. The tankers are parked behind a motel in Moriarty, located in Torrance County. I contacted the Santa Fe county sheriffs' office, they said, the fire department in Edgewood sometimes give permission to take water for use on municipal projects. I've talked with locals about wells drying up around here, residents don't know what project they're talking about. It was related to me by a County Worker that they are selling it, to whom I do not know.
The state approved the construction. Including the water requirements during construction and operation. That water will be used. Period. The only question now is how much the state will profit since they shut him down to keep it for themselves.
Former AZ Congressman Sam Steiger, who had a TV show until his stroke, always quoted "Whiskey if for drinking, water is for fighting." This is classic, the land owner is getting punished, NOT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY? Mr. King should sue that company.
Question now is what happens to all that water once the construction company no longer needs it, when it has to empty those holding tanks... do they just let it drain out onto the ground?
Kings genius plan works out perfectly. He’s not allowed to pump for one year but now will use that sold water to water crops during the one yr ban I’d say.
That water is contaminated after its test purposes. The state will put the shaft to him if he tries to use it for irrigation purposes. Definitely ruin the local water table s.
OMG... and seeing the thumbnail I thought someone was illegally dumping toxic waste.... Hard for me in New York to imagine such severe issues with water. Pollution, yes.....
@@harryballsacky I'm aware of that. I'm over near Conesus/Hemlock. I was poking at them for getting their shorts in a twist over a few truckloads of water, when in some years we have standing water in our lawns all summer.... Seeing the thumbnail with an unlabelled tanker, it gives the initial impression that someone was dumping nasty stuff.....
@davidwang4364 18 million gallons is 2,406,250 cubic feet, if you had a building 100 feet long and 100 feet wide of unlimited height, that amount of water would fill it up 240 feet high- or to put it another way- the height of a 24 story building that size, suddenly when put into a VISUAL form it is a lot more significant than the number looks on paper.
@cjaneAlaska No, in THE words he violated the terms of the permit, negatively affecting everyone else who relies on that water that their WELLS tap into. So what happens to the home owner when their well goes dry and they spent thousands having it drilled deeper only to find there's no water there either? Now they have a house they cant sell all because one yahoo with connections to the governor willfully violated his permit that gave him a fair amount of water usage so there's water for other people, but he decided "screw the neighbors I'm cashing in!"
Meanwhile the construction was permitted by the state and they will be using the exact same water after the state gets their cut of the money. When they're done with the water it will soak into the ground and make it's way back to the water table. The source of the water won't change.
Folks that live in the Western US need to wake up. Your water issues are about to get a million times worse. Just in the state of Nevada alone, there have been upwards of 90 permit requests from almost all foreign companies to come and mine for metals and minerals that are needed for EV’s. In allowing these companies to build these mining site, it also allows these companies to go through billions of gallons of water from the Colorado River. They will be granting many permits and you all will suffer immensely. These companies are high risk for depleting water, minerals, and other resources. These companies are known for their pollution of waterways and surrounding ground cover and the mix of these minerals and metals and such are dangerous to the the health of humans and animals
The Johnstown area. The northern pickaway county rickenbacker area. There are many small towns and rural areas being destroyed by county and government greed in Ohio.
How can I give you my email or something like privately so I don't have to put it on here and we can communicate that way I'm just really want to know what you what you got like I've never heard anything about it
Once the contractor is finished testing the tanks for leaks, why couldn’t they then return the water back into the water supply or back to the rancher for irrigation??? Just testing a clean tank for leaks wouldn’t contaminate the water at all.
No need for a permit when you’re on the inside of government. How much money was made on the water sale? The fine should be double what they made not permitting the sale of such a prestigious commodity.
So, what’s the $$$ amount on six million gallons of illegally pumped water in New Mexico? It would appear the rancher is being penalized by taking away water usage instead of a monetary fine. Why not both?
If the water is used for testing only I'm sure it could be used for its intended purpose after. Have it tested and treated if necessary and return it to the aquifer through percolation or trucked back to the farm.
Wait so he owns the water and the well but he can’t sell his water from his pump? I don’t see what’s wrong with it. If they own it they can do what they want with it f the water commissioner
Does it really matter if he knew the law or not? I will surmise, however, that he did, and he also knew the profit from the water sale would far outweigh any punishment that could be judiciously handed out as fines.
Nonsense. The water could not be pumped back into the ground and the farm doesn't have above ground storage for that amount of water. You are making comments based on facts not in evidence.
Of course they did! Good grief. Potentially contaminated water with metals and chemicals put back on crops for consumption. That makes so much sense. Not how it works
@@fposmith What gives you the idea that the tanks were oily? They were new and being tested for leaks prior to filling. You are just making stuff up with no factual basis.
Oversight my ass! He has lived there his entire life so he completely understands he was breaking the water ordinance! Anyone else in the area that has a well goes dry or cycles should sue him for this!
I call bullshit Every farmer and rancher knows what water rights are and how much they are allowed. The state should pull all his water rights for ever. Let him figure out dryland farming. Check his sprinklers the meters probably dont work.
So it's stagnant finite water then. It doesn't replenish itself via an underground river. It's foolish to live there I would guess. Or is it that the municipality didn't get a cut out of what the construction company paid that farmer?
All the people who think they can just dump that water back in the aquifer to be used by homeowners for their water wouldn’t say that if they lived there. Those construction areas are filthy and all those steel bin sheets are coated with oil. You drink that.
Was the question ever asked of what they did with the water after testing the storage tanks? Just pull the drain plug and flood the area for a few days?
I have heard more than once in my life said, Ignorance is no excuse to the law. I noticed there was no mention of how much money he had received for the unlawful transaction. Maybe a good penalty would be to find out how much, then he having to forfeit that amount.
@@janiewilliams48 They said 54 million gallons was transferred. He was penalized 14 million gallons and could not Irrigate his crops for one year. My question is, what are the crops used for? Cattle feed or human consumption? Ether was it sounds like people are the ones paying the price. Thanks for your comment 👍👍
6 million gallons is 18 acre-feet. That's about the same amount four acres of alfalfa would consumptively use in one year. Not a huge amount of water when compared to what this well likely normally extracts from the water table in a year. If the water was discharged on the ground after tank testing some of it may have found its way back to the water table. I agree the State Engineer needs to follow the law but the magnitude of this infraction is not being communicated when the presenters of this story provide no context to the number thrown out.
35 acre irrigation penalty. 😂. Even being generous with what you can profit per acre, that’s a pittance compared to what he sold the water for. $$$$$$$$$
Maybe I missed it but I didn't notice how much Mr. King charged the construction contractor for 14 million gallons of water. His having to forfeit use of an equivalent amount of water for his own use was a just decision - I'm sure there will be fines or penalties besides. I can't really believe that anyone as involved with the permitting process and monitoring of his irrigation wells didn't realize that selling it was very questionable and possibly illegal. The amount of money he collected from the contractor would be telling.
If the state engineer has authority over NM surface water, than he should be jailed or at least embarrassed for the negligence of the USFS, BLM, Sanish land grants, and reservations for having the river banks, acequias, lakes, flow paths and sources of the hydrological cycle constricted, diverted, over grown with invasive species, covered in fences, garbage and dead fuel tonnage, or completely fenced off in violation of open streams act and maritime law it's absolutely pathetic how NM treats its most precious recourse, just like it treats it children, expendable.
The state water engineer was super weird and tight lipped on camera. Like he was choosing his words very carefully and intentionally not giving more details. My bet is that if the ranch had simply applied for the permit it would have been granted. The water sale might not have been quite as lucrative but it still would have gone through. I suspect that is what the engineer is not saying. 6million gallons sounds like a lot, but by the napkin math at the end it is irrigation water for less than half of that 35 acre penalty, so what, 15 acres of crop worth of water? It matters but this is not that big of a deal on the scale of the whole area.
Shouldn't the construction company have to pull permits also. Where did the state think they were gonna get the water to fill the tanks that they were building
They were not holding tanks for water, so the state was probably unaware they were gonna use 6 million gallons to check for leaks.
The state and it's over regulations is the reason nothing can be done in the US any-more.
@varner226 Well, then it's the states fault. These aren't the first holding tanks ever constructed.
La Mordida.
Right!!?? Ant the state inspectors for the project didn't question where the water came from and where it was going AFTER the water test was complete?? We are all not so ignorant!!
Whiskey is for drinking. Water is for fighting over. The classic Western Bar discussion about water.
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As a rancher with that much experience, he knows damn well what permits he has and what permits he doesn’t have, and that smile on his face says it all
😂😂😂
He's smiling to the bank and make fools out of everyone 🤬
Don't need permission on your own property to do what S-H-I-T this isn't commy CALI.
He is a Liar, he knew what he was doing
That’s why the rich stay rich they know how to get around shit
Better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
I guarantee this is not the only illegal water theft.
Saudis have been draining water for their crops in Arizona until they put a stop to it.
That has to be 30yr. old story. 😉
"Illegal water theft" What makes this illegal?
So what happened to the water when they were through testing the tanks? I can just about guarantee that they didn't just dump it out on the ground because that would be a bigger story than this. So very likely it went right back into the ground and into the Aquifer it came from.
@@thomasriggle6371it wasn’t their water? Smdh
There is NO WAY that Bill King was unaware that his irrigation well could not be used for a private water sale to a pipeline company...no way!!!
Mr King accepted responsibility without complaint, agreed that the State Engineer had regulatory authority over the use of the water and did not make up a bunch of flimsy excuses for himself. You don't see people do that very often so I think I'll take his word for it. If the remedy is that his ability to use the well is suspended for enough time to mitigate the diversion I don't have any problem with that.
@@noyopacific..but he’ll make $100’s of thousands on the transaction and will shut down that 35 acres until next year. He’ll just move the crops that would have been on that land to another piece.
@@noyopacificThat doesn’t address the point that he must have known that what he was doing was illegal, but he did it anyway.
@@lowandslow3939 I'm not ready to accept the assumption that the farmer was fully aware of the limits on how the water from his well could be used. He certainly made no effort to hide what he was doing. I used to have an agricultural well myself that produced 6-700 gallons a minute. If someone had offered to pay me a couple hundred per tanker load, it wouldn't have crossed my mind that I might not be permitted to do this.
OH BULL S, everyone knows how important water is there, its a farm well , He should be fined a large amount and not allowed to irrigate any of his land for 2 years. @@noyopacific
He knew exactly what he was doing and he didn't think he would get caught.
I’m assuming he saw dollar signs and went for it. I never heard of a farmer or rancher selling so much water. Even if you have extra, you sell it to other farmers. Where is this water going after the tank test?
Farmers sell billions of gallons of water to drink manufacturing companies per year. Pumping from aquifers, springs and reservoirs.
An irrigation pivot uses a million gallons of water a day. At most, he sold 6 days worth of irrigation. I don't even see a story here. It's a joke.
I was thinking the same thing where are they going to use the water hopefully to water other fields. For the one who says it's a joke there is no joke about wasting water I don't care how many days of water it is. We are in severe drought even if it doesn't look like it at the moment.
Isn't that what the state seen? "DOLLAR SIGNS" when they found out by the Karen Neighbor. The state will spend a trillion dollars to collect 5 bucks.
Eighteen million gallons fo water sounds like a lot more than it is.
He dodged the last question very well without admitting guilt.
"It was an oversight", usually means he didn't think he would get caught.
He's too big and too rich to fail. He's special. His rights, and all. 😬
Double talk man of of genius 🎉
Exactly! He didn't think he'd be called on it, because of his
wealth! From the sounds of residents wells going dry, because he's began using the firehouse pumps, he's STILL getting away w/it, AND he has govt PROTECTION!!
Protect the haves, screw the have nots!! My heart goes out to the HAVE NOTS!
Rev. 01. My wife and I, live out hear in Stanley, near where they have been pumping out the aquifer. Although they have reportedly stopped, they are now pumping from the nearby Volunteer Fire Station's, hydrant. My well, and many East Mountain resident wells went dry as well, during the first pumping, we had to haul water from town for two months and make over $3000.00 in repairs to the well. We lowered it another 50ft, which put it at the bottom. A lot of wells went dry out here.
Lds church bought 400,000+ acres of irrig farm lands in NW Nebraska.. to get at the undrgrnd Ogallala Aquifer...
Mirmons are desperately trying to use mormon constitutional sheriffs to seize homes to sell cho to other mormons to move to NE COLO & NEBR.
Now you see the problem with living in basically a desert, there are places not meant for human habitation or cities and those aquafers will not refill again like they did long ago, there simply isnt enough rain to do it
@@bryanx590 Africa had a desert. Starting in 1981 a gentleman used termites to hold back the desert.
Now, we have climate change and river piracy in the skies.
If people took theirs eyes and fingers off their damn phones and looked up...surprise.
arabs did it for alfalfa in the area.. which is then shipped over seas for animals there
Might have been a good idea to let the Kings pull from a better well, huh ? ? :)
Or not try to live in a DESERT :)
Problem with all this is the Water aquifer isn't only under his Property and it doesn't only affect his property. It affects the whole surrounding area and every Ranch or homestead within Miles of his Ranch. They suck it dry and everyone's Wells will run dry and be useless not to mention dropping the water table quickly like that can cause safety issues with land splitting wide open.
That is just not how that works, at all.
Agreed. Wish that was more clear in this broadcast and not just inferred.
The last time I checked land never floated on water. Water doesn't (belong) to anyone. They may claim it but that's no different then this rancher selling access to it. What it all boils down to is the state is pissed they didn't get thousands of dollars for something they claim but don't oun.
@@jamesrice6096 It is exactly how it works Mr. UA-cam expert.
@@thedesertdwellerfromutah4354 thanks youtube fact checker. Is that what the media told you or haven't you figured out that dirt doesn't float? 🤔
So being penalized for 35 acres is a hand slap.
when he was asked the question "did you realize you didn't have a valid permit?', did anyone noticed how much he was blinking his eyes?
He was blinking like that through the entire interview.
He was blinking Morse code.
He appears to be blinking: "I wanna get my scatter gun and ask these camera people to leave." 🤣
I never blink. Man’s obviously a liar
*Slobbering, shaking, heart beating so hard you could see his shirt pumping, smirking slightly, etc...* *If this was a lie detector test it would have blown the machine up.*
@@radicalrick9587 Slobbering? I think you must have been watching a different video my friend... a little radical don't you think? ;)
WHAT IS THE POINT OF REGULATION IF PERMISSION CAN SIMPLY BE PURCHASED?
That IS the point. Regulations generate money.
And now you see why libertarians and right wingers don't like regulation.
It's not because we don't like rules and quality control. It's because we know that's a failed tactic, and want to try better ways to achieve the same thing.
I think you missed the part where they state that Mr. King cannot irrigate his land for 1 year. In essence, he sold his water and cannot pump more. What I would like to know is how much he pumps in a year for irrigation. Is this sanction fair to his neighbors who share the aquifer?
It can't. Else King would have already paid a fee and be back in business with the construction company. If he'd applied for a permit, the engineer would have to check if the water usage would deplete levels negatively and could have specified a return-to-source path for the water, to get it back to the aquifer for use. That's what a permit application is supposed to trigger.
How else would we pay the regulators? A license is what you get when the government steals your rights away from you and then sells them back. It's how our system works. Has something to do with civilization, I believe. It was here for a little while before we showed up so we use it. Probably won't last much longer if certain people have their way. Many will fight for it.
Wow, you mean, they finally did their job after millions of gallons were stolen. And what we're supposed to congratulate them.
Just change your name to Nestle.
Or Poland springs.
coke. they paid 3 or 400 dollars for water years ago.
Nailed it !!
Good one Ken🤙🏽☮️ yup you nailed it...Poland Springs water, coca cola, Pepsi, the list is hurtfully endless. Water thieves even on Maui for 100+ years🤙🏽💖🏝😢 and when you think of all the waste of precious water millions of gallons millions upon millions that are used for theme parks and golf courses in rich people resorts.....just so distressing. And the water regarded for human consumption is nothing short of poison.
Hunts
Axis losing millions of gallons to foreign countries. It’s illegal to grow alfalfa in Saudi Arabia so they’re doing in the desert of AZ with NO RESTRICTIONS on amounts pumped!! Thanks Hobbs.
lol check the news. No more alfalfa is being grow there anymore. Period.
find some new podcast trash to regurgitate those farms were shut down awhile ago and what exactly does Hobbs have to do with anything those water rights laws have been in place for decades and still are but hey at least you got some thumbs up
@@marknicolich5789
Those farms were NOT shut down.
They weren't allowed additional wells after the State of Arizona stepped in.
If only you had honest elections
@@marknicolich5789 it looks like it JUST was reported on back in October and November of 2023 and the Saudi farms shipped the alfalfa back to Saudi since 2015. That is pretty recent for something so blatantly, in-your-face-America aggravating and shouldn't be forgotten for a second unless you, too, think man-dress boy in Saudi Arabia is a pretty great guy, too, and doing wonderful things. The Saudi company, Fondomonte, does own 10,000 acres outright versus the leased land that Hobbs is reversing the decision made by a prior governor - opening the state up to a law suit. This is backup water for Tucson and Phoenix. The laws better catch up with the reality or water misuse and theft is only going to increase. Meter all of the wells and plug them as punishment for abuse. Edit: You can monitor well production from a distance with the new-fanged technology - ask any pumper who lost their well-paid, cherry job to it being centralized at the office and done by those who knew or learned Python in anticipation.
The King ranch has been in business since 1917, and the owner didn't know anything about the water usage rules he was violating? Come on, Mr. King. Really?
It appears to be a case of "anything is for sale for the right price".
So what happened to the water used for testing the tanks?
Leaked out
@@joebird1400 Probably
Contaminated water now. Probably get pumped into the Colorado municipal pipeline that runs into west Texas.
Someone actually asked the right question.
Alcohol distillation lowers the water table in Iowa for mandated gasahol subsidies to farmers, nothing new about government sale of resources to industry
No water for 35 acres. 35 acres is nothing. He just won't plant 35 acres.
That's what I said. 35 acres does not equal 14 million gallons.
@@seeharvester you'd be surprised how much water it actually takes to irrigate land ,,, 1 acre foot of water 325,851 gallons of water ,, 11,404,785 gallons of water are what it takes to give 35 acres of land 12 inches of irrigation ,, so yea over a year 14 million gallons is easy ,,and most crops easily need 18-24 inches of rainfall
35 acres of land unable to plant for a year is actually a big hit to a rancher that grows his own feed ,,because he will have to downsize his cattle herd accordingly or buy feed from another ranch ,,and knowing farmers the way i do being a 4th generation iowa farmer ,, the other farms in the area knowing he got penalized will stick it to him or might even refuse to sell feed to him too,,plus he still has to pay taxes on that land and maintain it ,,leaving ranch land fallow for even 1 year invites all sorts of weeds to take root and vermin to move in , critters like prairie dogs and ground squirrels love fallow farm land ,,and all of those weeds and vermin have to be controlled
The best thing about this case is the fact that water is more valuable than gasoline
California uses about fifteen gallons a day per almond in growing of almond trees
They need to stop growing almond tress that's crazy !!
I thought the most interesting part was that the state knew about and permitted the construction a mere 5mi away. The state knew what would be required for construction and use once complete. Where did the state think the water was going to come from? Money for the permit was always going to make the same water available for construction.
When I was young a rich man told me it is always smarter to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
When I was young my dad told me you can forgive a criminal after he servs time for the crime.
@@randywise5241
When I was young, a rich man, and my dad told me "don't get caught".
So far...so good....
@@blaydCA LOL.
"Do not do the crime if you cannot do the time." Was a generation X thing. I had plenty of time on my hands.
@@randywise5241
"Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time" was around loooong time before even MY time, nevermind GenX and that was a gall dang loooong time ago. LoL
Not smarter, easier....
After he paid the tax/permit fee, everything was fine. Not really about draining the water it’s about money to the county.
No. Everything’s not fine. He did not say he was issued a permit. Just the opposite. He cant use that well for one year.
Yep. This boils down to one thing- Bloated Government. Our nation is a disaster right now, and these idiots are losing their minds over AT MOST ~6 days worth of irrigation. I am so sick and tired of city folk.
@@ernestjoiner3040they'll be starving soon enough. These conservationists are going to get a good lesson in okay, if it's so easy, here you go, do it yourself. Peanut gallery.
Think you meant preservationists. Conservationist promote use of resources, but not the total destruction of them
At the end of the day, these impressive sounding amounts they are talking about are negligible.
It's a story to rile up the informed. The water table is fine.
@@tripac3392My great uncle in the Rio Grande Valley of TX, age 77 is selling off the cropland as we speak, 62,500 an acre.. This is no joke..
Everybody seems to have sidestepped the really crucial issue here. WHAT are they going to do with the 6 million gallons of water already in the tanks, now that they have been "tested"? WHAT was the purpose that the tanks were built for in the first place? WHO paid for the tanks to built?
Use the water for agriculture irrigation of course. Its just a Bogus matter. So the water gets a dual use: tank testing, & then irrigation.
Good question.
Seems to be really about the government not getting their 10%. The big guy has gotta get his 10%.
Take as much water as you want and dirty it up too👌Gotta support big biz (donors)... screw the little guy. -Republicans
Hey, we like Anheuser Busch again because they're fund raising for Dear Leader. -definitely Republicans
Sounds like a guy who wears a mask while driving alone in a car sheeple lol😅
It's about stealing water in the second driest state in the country. Keep making jokes that are two years too late.
Sounds like you have no clue what you're talking about.
@@kathleenmccrory9883 probably don’t. Glad you do.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💩
The question that needs to be asked and answered is IF BEFORE the pumping of this water was done AND the land owner AND Construction company ASKED for a permit WOULD it have been granted???
Definitely, the government is only mad they didnt get a cut
Guy steals water and sells what isn't his and y'all blame the govt. You're a bunch of clowns.
@@d-rot wrong, the LAND OWNER also owns the water UNDER his land. It's the INTRUSIVE GOVERNMENT who's regulations that have encroached upon his rights that is the problem. Hence my question ❓
No it wouldn't, because that water well is designated for irrigation purposes only by the state, so he new it was most likely not to get approved.
@@d-rotright, because who but the state would know about the construction project and considered the impact on the local environment. Probably even including water and other stuff too. 😆 the state just wants their cut of the money.
Farming in a desert just has never sound like a good idea.
Unless you have a good water source.
Morons gonna Moron.
Ignorance is apparent
@@dh5380 IGNORE ance.
Neither does building cities next to volcanos, rivers, on quake fault zones
He didn’t know he needed a permit? He worked with his brother in the government, besides ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking it.
Hes well aware of all water permits & legal water usage & they called it an oversight??
I call bullshi*!!
Hes a liar & a thief!!!
Sounds like there's protection in place for Mr cattle barron!Barron!!
Look the other way for the haves & screw the have nots!!
Unless you're a cop.
@@steveschutte4990or Trump
An oversight is an understatement!
Usually means you overlooked something you shouldn't do that you knew about...
Oversite? Illegal and got caught. Didn’t say how much he received in $$$ for the water. He is not being picked on. He’s actually being given special treatment. He should be charged with a crime.
Yes what a way to sugarcode crime.
@@mikedebell2242 is call crime while ignoring the law, that's why he didn't applied for a permit.
@@cconnon1912 instead they made others paid the consequences by not been able to buy water from him for irrigation for one year.
Kings Ranch 825,000 acres.
The penalty for his actions is;
He can’t irrigate 35 acres for one year?!?!??
I wanna know what happened to the water AFTER the tank tests were completed. Was the water put to good use? Did they truck it back to King Ranch so they could utilize it for irrigation?
Exactly!
Or was it contaminated and no longer usable in agriculture and also needed to be treated?
Good question. Where did the water get to
But, what happened to the water when the construction company was done with the leak tests???
went back into the ground...
@@truckstopcowboytruckstopco5639and with what toxins, surely not as pure as it was pumped?
What toxins are you talking about? @@crazylady..
@@IanHotson anything that the water touches, building materials aren't healthy and pure. Dust, dirt, parts from the building?
If it comes from the earth, it can go back to the earth. @@crazylady..
Being on a well myself i totally understand this woman's concern. I guarantee you that construction company knew they were violating the law same as this man does.
Who permitted the construction after a lengthy review process where things like water requirements for the construction and maintenance of whatever the state approved them to build would be heavily considered. Probably.
The whole issue is the state didn't get their cut from the sale. Bottom line.
Bam! nailed it!!
Yeah, who gives a crap about local residents if their wells go dry. Big biz all the way... right republicans?
Exactly
I mean Los Lunas just tripled their contract with Niagra bottling company despite huge community outcry.
Politicians dgaf about the community they serve - its all money.
Yep my thoughts exactly
No irrigation for 35 acres?? Thats it?? Yea, this guy is for sure well connected!!
Son of a politician.
You know that only the amount of water taken is equivalent to 6 1 acre-inch rains over 35 acres. New Mexico saved millions of gallons by not letting him irrigate all year. It is a tremendous penalty to King and Karen and a massive boost to the aquifer she is concerned about. Doers always have a target on their back.
@@greatplainsman3662 You're missing the point. Thirty-five acres is nothing ... he may even gain benefit for leaving the field fallow for a year.
If the water sold was only enough to irrigate 35 acres for one year, they are really winding themselves up to a ridiculous degree over almost nothing.
How many gallons of water dose it take to irrigate 35 acres for two years??? Could it be equal to the amount he sold? Or maybe even more then that in a hard year. Plus, that is 35 acres of land not producing any income for two years, or hay for his cattle. Witch means out of pocket expense or down sizing hid heard.
Maybe learn a little bit about ranching and what it cost to raise one from impregnation to action before bitching about losing the usage of 35 acre’s of farm land for two years is a small price for the offense.
Alfalfa grass, what he is growing, uses a TON of water. Look it up.
Rev. 02. The tankers continue to role, there are six. They are filling from the same Volunteer Fire Department hydrant, located in Santa Fe County. The tankers are parked behind a motel in Torrance County. All 6, haul all day long every day except on Saturdays and Sundays. I contacted the Santa Fe county sheriffs' office, they said, they are allowed to pump it out, for use on municipal projects.
Not sure what project they're talking about.
Investigate what is going on in our communities.🇺🇸
If the water was brought back and used to irrigate fields, is the regulation still being violated?
But are they doing that?
Hell no. That would make sense.
No.
How would you bring it back?
@@peggyisme Pump it back into the trucks.
Get a 4 mile long hose and when they are done with the water, pump it back to the King ranch and back down the hole.
When he runs out of water he'll be crying that the ranch/farm needs help. Selling water is easier than farming.
What's farming
No, he just get a deeper well.
@@Waiting_777 🤪🤪🤪🤪clown
@@mchrysogelos7623
If you say so. That is what our ranch did. We lost our well water in the 70s drought due to another farmer putting in a deeper well. My stepdad put in a deeper well so we could have water. Call it what you want but it’s been done a lot lately.
He knew exactly what he was doing
You bet he did!! He's been in his business for decades & knows ALL the laws governing
legal permitting & proper water usage!! Hes a bold faced liar!!
He also knows what he got paid far exceeds that little 35 acres of nothing he now cant irrigate for a year
This happens around EVERY oil field. The drilling companies buy water from random "water haulers" without questioning about where the water came from, those water haulers will steal water from anywhere they can get it.
No lie there, I've seen fish swimming in a fresh water tank on a rig site . Word got out the vac trucks were pulling it from the pecos River
Tho he doesn't have too. He shouldve involved the voice & opinion of his local neighbors about the water deal.
LOW OVERHEAD
He sold 6 million gallons of water and he claims he had no idea he was doing anything wrong?! The guy is only irrigating 35 acres of pasture off that well, he's either lying or he's a congenital idiot. He should be fined and be required to provide third-party water to any residents nearby whose wells dry up. What a jerk.
cited for 14 million. He said he "owned" the water, Oh? And how much is used on his 35 acres? Owned vs "rights to" might be samantics.
Looks like the water is stored,so it’s not a total loss.Once tanks are tested it can be later applied to the irrigation ditches in the area.
But, keep in mind, after construction of the tanks the metal surface is still oily. This means the water is for sure contaminated.
@@billferner6741 and my truck leaks oil, what's your point? Doesn't oil come from the ground?
@@billferner6741 Oops!
@@thomasriggle6371 you don't get it. A drop of oil makes gallons of water unusable.
@billferner6741 you don't get it. Water! It comes from the ground! Oil, it comes from the ground. Is there some kinda secret magic that keeps them separated underground? 🤡
What was done with the water after the testing was done? Was it drained back into the landscape?
Nahhh lol, they stole it because they paid for it.
must be hard to save water for all the golf courses
Ban assault golf courses
@@OutWestRedDirt
Hell, just ban golf
Golf / floG < flog : to beat
Accountability! Love it. The whole story is good including how the King responded
So after the test are done on the tanks.. can't the water be pulled out and used for irrigation?
That is what I was wondering...
I’m sure it can through a filter press to keep the contaminants out.
Only if you have flooded irrigation you can't do nothing with regular pivot sprinkler
Not if it is contaminated,by the construction site
Water wars begin
We Need the Water Wars Now.
This is the calmest investigative story that I've ever seen.
Because hes white
where does the water go after the storage and line tests?
They need millions of gallons of freshwater for each fracking well!
So tell us the fracking story.
Great job, Mr. Hammond.
And? Doesn't seem any water theft was going on here. It's in HIS property
What are the construction tanks for, oil, water storage? Are the tanks something that will benefit the community?
who cares? its none of your business.
lol. I love America. All F’d up.
Even if Mr King knew he needed a permit or not, his handling of talking to the media with his demeanor is golden. Everyone public figure or company should take note like this in the eyes of controversy and stop being defensive
That sinister smirk on his face sure capped it for me.
"Why dang, I didn't know I needed a permit dang."
Liar.
Rev. 03. The tankers continue to role, there are now eight tankers hauling water Monday-Friday out of Santa Fe County. They are filling from the Volunteer Fire Department hydrant, and the community water source in Edgewood also located in Santa Fe County. The tankers are parked behind a motel in Moriarty, located in Torrance County. I contacted the Santa Fe county sheriffs' office, they said, the fire department in Edgewood sometimes give permission to take water for use on municipal projects. I've talked with locals about wells drying up around here, residents don't know what project they're talking about. It was related to me by a County Worker that they are selling it, to whom I do not know.
The state approved the construction. Including the water requirements during construction and operation. That water will be used. Period. The only question now is how much the state will profit since they shut him down to keep it for themselves.
Former AZ Congressman Sam Steiger, who had a TV show until his stroke, always quoted "Whiskey if for drinking, water is for fighting." This is classic, the land owner is getting punished, NOT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY? Mr. King should sue that company.
He got an undisclosed amount of cash on that water venture.
@drivenbullet260 not what the state is claiming. Otherwise, they wouldn't of fined him on irrigation for the year. That's just the beginning.
Question now is what happens to all that water once the construction company no longer needs it, when it has to empty those holding tanks... do they just let it drain out onto the ground?
Kings genius plan works out perfectly. He’s not allowed to pump for one year but now will use that sold water to water crops during the one yr ban I’d say.
Doubt it
well that would make more sense than letting it run out ..... at least it wouldnt be wasted
He's only banned from watering 35 acres of his thousands of acres for a year. Did we not all watch the Same video.
That water is contaminated after its test purposes. The state will put the shaft to him if he tries to use it for irrigation purposes. Definitely ruin the local water table s.
What about the company? What was their punishment?
OMG... and seeing the thumbnail I thought someone was illegally dumping toxic waste.... Hard for me in New York to imagine such severe issues with water. Pollution, yes.....
LOOK UP ONANDOGA LAKE IN SYRACUSE, ONE OF THE 10 DIRTIEST LAKES IN THE WORLD....
@@harryballsacky I'm aware of that. I'm over near Conesus/Hemlock. I was poking at them for getting their shorts in a twist over a few truckloads of water, when in some years we have standing water in our lawns all summer.... Seeing the thumbnail with an unlabelled tanker, it gives the initial impression that someone was dumping nasty stuff.....
@@DJ-bh1juway more than a few tankers of water
What happens to the water after the test is finished? Can it be returned to the aquifer or stored for future use?
Good question. Contaminated
The water they use will be most likely be contaminated depending on what type of "construction" they are doing
Depends if there are any harmful chemicals now in the water ? If not it could be returned or stored in a lake and used for irragation !
Sounds like the biggest issue is that the government didn't get their cut, I mean "permit fee" up front.
Not the issue at all. Permit fees are insignificant! Get a clue!
@@samstewart9249 Well please enlighten us on the true issue then.
Thank you for following these actions
Holy crap. You mean reporters actually investigate?
Well Sauro's doesn't own ALL of them just the big ones.
In other words, the state didn’t get their cut and they’re pissed about it
@davidwang4364 Well said. cjaneAlaska is probably one of those cynics who hates everything about governmental regulations,
@davidwang4364 18 million gallons is 2,406,250 cubic feet, if you had a building 100 feet long and 100 feet wide of unlimited height, that amount of water would fill it up 240 feet high- or to put it another way- the height of a 24 story building that size, suddenly when put into a VISUAL form it is a lot more significant than the number looks on paper.
@cjaneAlaska
No, in THE words he violated the terms of the permit, negatively affecting everyone else who relies on that water that their WELLS tap into. So what happens to the home owner when their well goes dry and they spent thousands having it drilled deeper only to find there's no water there either? Now they have a house they cant sell all because one yahoo with connections to the governor willfully violated his permit that gave him a fair amount of water usage so there's water for other people, but he decided "screw the neighbors I'm cashing in!"
No, permit fees are cheap! King was capitalizing at the expense of his neighbors. Get real!
Absolutely no doubt.very fucken pissed.
Wow what a shocking surprise a politician type ignoring the law
Permits aside, he knew full well the water wasn't for the use intended.
Exactly, arrangements for disposal of test water will require additional permits.
Meanwhile the construction was permitted by the state and they will be using the exact same water after the state gets their cut of the money. When they're done with the water it will soak into the ground and make it's way back to the water table. The source of the water won't change.
@@sugaronmychurroand money 😉
Folks that live in the Western US need to wake up. Your water issues are about to get a million times worse. Just in the state of Nevada alone, there have been upwards of 90 permit requests from almost all foreign companies to come and mine for metals and minerals that are needed for EV’s. In allowing these companies to build these mining site, it also allows these companies to go through billions of gallons of water from the Colorado River. They will be granting many permits and you all will suffer immensely. These companies are high risk for depleting water, minerals, and other resources. These companies are known for their pollution of waterways and surrounding ground cover and the mix of these minerals and metals and such are dangerous to the the health of humans and animals
Government in central Ohio would have gladly joined the rancher. Develope everything in sight especially if the county gets some money.
Are you talking about Intel I'm from Johnstown
The Johnstown area. The northern pickaway county rickenbacker area. There are many small towns and rural areas being destroyed by county and government greed in Ohio.
How can I give you my email or something like privately so I don't have to put it on here and we can communicate that way I'm just really want to know what you what you got like I've never heard anything about it
Once the contractor is finished testing the tanks for leaks, why couldn’t they then return the water back into the water supply or back to the rancher for irrigation???
Just testing a clean tank for leaks wouldn’t contaminate the water at all.
According to the radical left it’s contaminated if fish can’t swim in it it’s contaminated
He wants to make it right. Take the money he made and put it into the city. He sold everyone's water.
Imagine living in a world where water is illigal to transport and use.
don't have to imagine...it happens all around every day
It’s coming for. All of us
Communism
Sorry, Utah is the second driest state. New Mexico is nunber 5. However, water is definitely a critical resource in New Mexico.
I have 36 acres and we can’t seem to find a company to drill a well for us.
We haul water from the community well.
I live in PA, we have water coming out our asses.
No need for a permit when you’re on the inside of government. How much money was made on the water sale? The fine should be double what they made not permitting the sale of such a prestigious commodity.
So, what’s the $$$ amount on six million gallons of illegally pumped water in New Mexico? It would appear the rancher is being penalized by taking away water usage instead of a monetary fine. Why not both?
His profits should have been divided among all property owners, part of the water he was selling was theirs!
If the water is used for testing only I'm sure it could be used for its intended purpose after. Have it tested and treated if necessary and return it to the aquifer through percolation or trucked back to the farm.
LOL
Wait so he owns the water and the well but he can’t sell his water from his pump? I don’t see what’s wrong with it. If they own it they can do what they want with it f the water commissioner
Does it really matter if he knew the law or not? I will surmise, however, that he did, and he also knew the profit from the water sale would far outweigh any punishment that could be judiciously handed out as fines.
So he did exactly what his government would do but yet your attacking the rancher. 🤔
@thomasriggle6371 not to worry, Maga's will be down shortly to camp and protest like a bunch of hippies at Woodstock
But yet the residents of that town would be pissed off if those tanks leaked because they weren't able to be tested with water
How many of those residents have large swimming pools wasting that same water resource.
As long as the state gets paid they don’t care
what did the contractor do with the water once the tests were done?
They didn’t throw the water away. They borrowed it for testing and likely returned it to the farm land where it was used for irrigation.
Nonsense. The water could not be pumped back into the ground and the farm doesn't have above ground storage for that amount of water. You are making comments based on facts not in evidence.
Of course they did! Good grief. Potentially contaminated water with metals and chemicals put back on crops for consumption. That makes so much sense. Not how it works
@@johnboylong40 you haven't the faintest idea of what you are talking about.
@@avsystem3142 Oily water from the inside of a tank should not be pumped back into the ground !
@@fposmith What gives you the idea that the tanks were oily? They were new and being tested for leaks prior to filling. You are just making stuff up with no factual basis.
Oversight my ass! He has lived there his entire life so he completely understands he was breaking the water ordinance! Anyone else in the area that has a well goes dry or cycles should sue him for this!
Kudos to the investigative report looking into this and brining it out into the light of day. Journalists are boss.
I call bullshit
Every farmer and rancher knows what water rights are and how much they are allowed. The state should pull all his water rights for ever. Let him figure out dryland farming. Check his sprinklers the meters probably dont work.
💯
Why? Because you know the state is gonna sell them the same water. This is about money to government and nothing more.
So it's stagnant finite water then. It doesn't replenish itself via an underground river. It's foolish to live there I would guess. Or is it that the municipality didn't get a cut out of what the construction company paid that farmer?
Everyone has to share the water. It's used by permits. He violated the agreements for the area
All the people who think they can just dump that water back in the aquifer to be used by homeowners for their water wouldn’t say that if they lived there. Those construction areas are filthy and all those steel bin sheets are coated with oil. You drink that.
Big Q: What happened to the water after the tank-test? Did they bring it back/? Drain it back into the aquifer? For growers and regular folks to use?
As president of the United States of America I have several projects on going around the country. With the King rancher ties needing water in Texas.
Was the question ever asked of what they did with the water after testing the storage tanks? Just pull the drain plug and flood the area for a few days?
I have heard more than once in my life said,
Ignorance is no excuse to the law.
I noticed there was no mention of how much money
he had received for the unlawful transaction.
Maybe a good penalty would be to find out how much,
then he having to forfeit that amount.
Plus major fines for breaking a common sense law
It was a violation of a Code it becomes unlawful if there is continuous improper use
It said in the video
@@janiewilliams48 They said 54 million gallons was transferred. He was penalized 14 million gallons and could not Irrigate his crops for one year.
My question is, what are the crops used for? Cattle feed or human consumption?
Ether was it sounds like people are the ones paying the price.
Thanks for your comment 👍👍
...."he who controls the weather controls the world" (Eisenhower) same goes for water
6 million gallons is 18 acre-feet. That's about the same amount four acres of alfalfa would consumptively use in one year. Not a huge amount of water when compared to what this well likely normally extracts from the water table in a year. If the water was discharged on the ground after tank testing some of it may have found its way back to the water table. I agree the State Engineer needs to follow the law but the magnitude of this infraction is not being communicated when the presenters of this story provide no context to the number thrown out.
Yeah, I was also wondering what the yearly allotment for the well was, and what percentages of that allotment this misallocation and the fine were.
35 acre irrigation penalty. 😂. Even being generous with what you can profit per acre, that’s a pittance compared to what he sold the water for. $$$$$$$$$
He should forfeit the purchase price of the water as well !
That's why he was smiling through the whole interview.
He completed cheated the system. He should go to jail
the corruption in that family runs deep .
Like the Bidens
Biden, Bush.. same levels
Maybe I missed it but I didn't notice how much Mr. King charged the construction contractor for 14 million gallons of water. His having to forfeit use of an equivalent amount of water for his own use was a just decision - I'm sure there will be fines or penalties besides. I can't really believe that anyone as involved with the permitting process and monitoring of his irrigation wells didn't realize that selling it was very questionable and possibly illegal. The amount of money he collected from the contractor would be telling.
If the state engineer has authority over NM surface water, than he should be jailed or at least embarrassed for the negligence of the USFS, BLM, Sanish land grants, and reservations for having the river banks, acequias, lakes, flow paths and sources of the hydrological cycle constricted, diverted, over grown with invasive species, covered in fences, garbage and dead fuel tonnage, or completely fenced off in violation of open streams act and maritime law it's absolutely pathetic how NM treats its most precious recourse, just like it treats it children, expendable.
NM is the result of MANY decades of liberal democrat leadership.. #WalkAway and VOTE TRUMP 2024!
The state water engineer was super weird and tight lipped on camera. Like he was choosing his words very carefully and intentionally not giving more details. My bet is that if the ranch had simply applied for the permit it would have been granted. The water sale might not have been quite as lucrative but it still would have gone through. I suspect that is what the engineer is not saying.
6million gallons sounds like a lot, but by the napkin math at the end it is irrigation water for less than half of that 35 acre penalty, so what, 15 acres of crop worth of water? It matters but this is not that big of a deal on the scale of the whole area.
I can appreciate your Common sense approach to reality here but your trying to explain reason to a society that has completely lost its mind.
Ol Tight Lip knows there's MANY unturned stones.
He's fixing to speak with the governor and state attorney.
Hell that land might end up as federal property if it goes to the state Supreme Court.
Now that the tanks are 'tested ', what happens to the stolen property?
Why am I suspicious that those tanks were built to hold, oh idk ...WATER?
That water is not far away, it is still there and available if there is a critical shortage.
And contaminated.
@@janiewilliams48 like your brain
Only restrictions on American people and not foreigners
Thank a democrat