Man... Can't wait for the next video! Nothing I like better than to just relax and watch vintage equipment repairs. Really fascinating how older electronics were made... Nothing like today...
I dunno... He picked up an old 3 tube radio with an all metal chassis and the damm thing still works... In terms of safety (generally speaking) today's stuff is better, but there is just so much cost cutting done today.
***** The microchip and modern transistor can do 10 times more, 10 times quicker, although vintage electronics seem cool to look at and use, they are extremely power hungry compared to todays offerings, i mean a simple 17" colour crt tv uses the same amount of power as a 51" plasma. Also as shango admitted himself NEVER leave one of these old sets running if youre not around, they can easily burn your house down.
Synthematix Yeah... They are not exactly the safest in design, but then again, today's really cheap chinese usb phone chargers are not exactly better, but they cost 1/100th of what these tvs cost when they were new. Are they practical for today's everyday use? No. Are they still interesting and worth collecting, repairing, and restoring? Certainly.
Thank You - I like the vintage repair video's you post please post more.. Yes I enjoy everything you stand for and the vintage TV's Radios thank you... Today I went an antique mall came across some vintage Tube radios Turn tables zenith radio
One of the reasons I dislike finding someone as interesting as you and your work/method-- is that I feel compelled to watch as much as possible. If I can learn anything at all, one must see everything!
I don't even know How you do this Troubleshooting. My Eyes staring, trying to keep up; More 'parts' keep coming into question; All the different conditions involved; and we haven't left the Planet. This is Great! This is an Adventure! Hope I find pt 3. Thanks!
I always watch `em in series and I'm glad you're still posting. I've learned so much just from watching your videos and you've got to be one of the best CRT trouble-shooters I've ever seen. Keep up the good work.
I'm surprised you don't have a tuner sub box. Back in the analog days, I used my "tuner subber" to show customers the difference between their worn-out tuner and a new one. Made it easy to diagnose and repair sets in the home, especially the big consoles. Plus the customers didn't bitch about the repair price or accuse me of scratching their beloved cabinets.
the background is part of why i personally watch,, along with the commentary ;) along with the sampling of radio stations from part of the country i'll never see
Neat little TV! When I watched this video, I was going "how the hell does he know where to look?" because all of this is confusing to me, but I'm slowly learning and understanding it a bit! Nice to see it being fixed and restored rather than throwing out a classic like this.
Gee, in 1962 my dad was fixing a very similar TV. The sync was not working at all. He wasn’t able to fix it. The sync circuit had two potted selenium diodes. Now 60 years later we have a probable fix!
you know when I used to adjust color and b&W TV's I had a mirror mounted on an old sheet music stand so I didn't have to keep running around to see the front of the pic tube. They're cheap it looks like you could use one!!! Jack
Hotpoint was General Electric's bargain brand of appliances. If you could spend more you got a GE. If not you settled for a Hotpoint. Electric stoves, washing machines, clothes dryers, refrigerators, freezers, air conditioners, TV's, and what ever else GE sold - usually a lower cost version was available with the Hotpoint name on it. That didn't mean they were bad, just built to a lower cost with fewer features. The main internal parts were usually the same. 1
Shango, maybe to address the multipart videos is to link to all parts in the video description and / or create playlists for all projects? As always, enjoy what you do!
I think it is awesome that you restore these classic gems.... but obviously it is a labor of love , but if doing it for yourself you will end up with a house full of stuff that no one wants, I restore old tube radios , sometimes at great costs, but they are worthless to everyone but me have about 100 now ....can't imagine a house full of CRT TV's.... lol
I like the multipart videos. It's not surprising the Hotpoint and GE are similar. GE merged with Hotpoint in 1918. Of course GE sold its home appliance business to Haier in China.
+Steven Smyth I never knew GE marketed TV's under the Hotpoint name. That was always home appliances, usually just stoves, ranges, refrigerators and dishwashers. But TV's and possibly radios, pretty interesting.
i must be one of the few people left on the planet with patience! i ALWAYS view latter parts to your videos! sometimes i cant wait for them! but what you are saying is true, i made a 2 part video and the first one has like 3 times the views of part 2, god forbid there be a part 3! im going to make a video of my old rca colorbar generator and other tools i have and im wondering if a video over 20 minutes is too long...
When you have the board pulled to replace the phase detector diodes, change that big red electrolytic just to the left of it, too. Looks like the original recapper missed it...
I know it's silly of me to give you advice, but... Put a mirror in the front of the screen, real convenient to muck around with TV that way. And I find multi-part videos interesting, kinda like a sitcom for geeks - you wait for next part with impatience :D
I was working on a 1940s Emerson portable radio which someone did a very good job of converting to AC, and it had a similar problem with low plate voltage; I traced it to a capacitor connected to the 117Z3 rectifier tube which was bad.
hey shang! love the channel. I'm a new sub so I haven't been through your back catalog yet. I was wondering if you fooled with reel to reel tape decks. I have one that works but it's lousy with old caps and resistors, dirty pots and I'd like to send it off to have it freshened up. If you're interested in the job, please let me know or if you know someone you trust that can do it, I'd love to get it restored back. Thanks for the awesome content sir!
Some functional diodes show open on the diode checker of many meters. I have a cheap ass Uni-T in which the forward bias diode meter scale goes up to 2 volts and then cuts, and if for whatever reason the forward bias is higher than that it shows up open. LEDs show open even though the voltage put across them lights them up, for example. This probably changes depending of the meter.
+MisterTalkingMachine Absolutely agree, I kinda dont think thats is the case here though. I may make an effort to test that in pt3 once i get the coil in
+shango066 That one had to go for sure. Even if it still does something after all, it's well past beyond the point where it's still usable. By the way, the horizontal lock selenium diode is very weird indeed. Thought it was a cap until you pointed out it isn't. My guess is that inside of it there's a stack of disks similar to those long ceramic flyback rectifiers from later sets.
+MisterTalkingMachine could be, I have no problem taking it apart so we can see. Im not totally sure its the problem but from what we know its highly likely
+shango066 If it's not, it well may be in the near future anyway. Cannot think of any way to possibly test it either, besides inserting it on another TV, which is not really worth the trouble in my opinion. I found one of those on a plastic case with yellow sealant on a set that was butchered on the side of the road, and both diodes seem to work on it, but no telling if it would perform as it should on an actual working TV.
Could it be that the little coil had bad contacts or corroded leads and therefore measured as open? By the way, why would two coils be put in series? It seems like overkill. Or does one coil dampen ringing or filter unwanted signals from the other coil? I like these videos even if they are in multiple installments. There's always something interesting to glean in them. Thanks for sharing these videos with us :)
I came across a Philco Tube radio in a baker like cabinet $98.00 the vender wants what do you think? A video came to most venders only do a enough to make the radio play and want so much money for the item
Have you ever used a test crt, such as a 5AXP4 when working on this type of design? I have used my test crts on a couple of sets. This makes it much easier to get the set working. I am working on a GE very similar to this at present(This is why I am watching your videos). The board on the right is not that hard to re-cap, , just mark and disconnect about 5 of the wire-wrapped wires connecting the left and right boards, and it can be pull out enough to replace the caps on the board directly.. .
He is talking about ppl not watching all the parts lol, dude, all the titles to his multi part videos have completely different titles with no links to the next or previous parts. Trust me, I've tried to search his multi part videos..and it is NOT easy or intuitive to figure what is what.. sorry, I try
Always wondered if most people who have these sets repaired are doing it strictly for sentiment reasons. At least the old sets had style. Funny thing is today the sets are skinny and the people are fat where back in the day the sets were fat and the people were skinny.
Hotpoint is GE, it's a brand they sell. Usually a low end appliance brand. I'm surprised to see this. I bet this was sold at a specific Hotpoint retailer. Local guy back in the day. With a persons name on the doors.
Man... Can't wait for the next video! Nothing I like better than to just relax and watch vintage equipment repairs. Really fascinating how older electronics were made... Nothing like today...
+Luke Den Hartog Today they are better tbh
I dunno... He picked up an old 3 tube radio with an all metal chassis and the damm thing still works... In terms of safety (generally speaking) today's stuff is better, but there is just so much cost cutting done today.
***** The microchip and modern transistor can do 10 times more, 10 times quicker, although vintage electronics seem cool to look at and use, they are extremely power hungry compared to todays offerings, i mean a simple 17" colour crt tv uses the same amount of power as a 51" plasma. Also as shango admitted himself NEVER leave one of these old sets running if youre not around, they can easily burn your house down.
Synthematix Yeah... They are not exactly the safest in design, but then again, today's really cheap chinese usb phone chargers are not exactly better, but they cost 1/100th of what these tvs cost when they were new.
Are they practical for today's everyday use? No. Are they still interesting and worth collecting, repairing, and restoring? Certainly.
Thank You - I like the vintage repair video's you post please post more.. Yes I enjoy everything you stand for and the vintage TV's Radios thank you... Today I went an antique mall came across some vintage Tube radios Turn tables zenith radio
One of the reasons I dislike finding someone as interesting as you and your work/method-- is that I feel compelled to watch as much as possible. If I can learn anything at all, one must see everything!
Always seem to learn something on your videos,, especially the tv ones. Not a lot of learning vids on the television subject.
Thanks as always.
Carl
I don't even know How you do this Troubleshooting. My Eyes staring, trying to keep up; More 'parts' keep coming into question; All the different conditions involved; and we haven't left the Planet. This is Great! This is an Adventure! Hope I find pt 3. Thanks!
Enjoyed watching & as I've said before, your videos are not boring either! Keep them coming. 😀👍🏻
I always watch `em in series and I'm glad you're still posting. I've learned so much just from watching your videos and you've got to be one of the best CRT trouble-shooters I've ever seen. Keep up the good work.
I'm surprised you don't have a tuner sub box. Back in the analog days, I used my "tuner subber" to show customers the difference between their worn-out tuner and a new one. Made it easy to diagnose and repair sets in the home, especially the big consoles. Plus the customers didn't bitch about the repair price or accuse me of scratching their beloved cabinets.
Cheating? What a perfect way to verify your new equipment! Love it!
the background is part of why i personally watch,, along with the commentary ;) along with the sampling of radio stations from part of the country i'll never see
I always watch both parts,and part threes, especially on these repairs.I like the vintage stuff.!!
Neat little TV! When I watched this video, I was going "how the hell does he know where to look?" because all of this is confusing to me, but I'm slowly learning and understanding it a bit! Nice to see it being fixed and restored rather than throwing out a classic like this.
Look forward to part 3 Shango 006 ,enjoy your videos and humour ,Thks ,73's
Gee, in 1962 my dad was fixing a very similar TV. The sync was not working at all. He wasn’t able to fix it. The sync circuit had two potted selenium diodes. Now 60 years later we have a probable fix!
I always watch your parts 👍very educational stuff
This whole series has been very interesting....the plot thickens with every turn. Looking forward to part 3.
Thanks again for making these videos , i enjoy them a lot!
We had one of those in pink. Lasted until about 1982.
Using your GE...not cheating! You created a "control" for the experiment! Very interesting adventure...thanks!
you know when I used to adjust color and b&W TV's I had a mirror mounted on an old sheet music stand so I didn't have to keep running around to see the front of the pic tube. They're cheap it looks like you could use one!!! Jack
I watch all the parts!!!!
Hotpoint was General Electric's bargain brand of appliances. If you could spend more you got a GE. If not you settled for a Hotpoint. Electric stoves, washing machines, clothes dryers, refrigerators, freezers, air conditioners, TV's, and what ever else GE sold - usually a lower cost version was available with the Hotpoint name on it. That didn't mean they were bad, just built to a lower cost with fewer features. The main internal parts were usually the same.
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Shango, maybe to address the multipart videos is to link to all parts in the video description and / or create playlists for all projects? As always, enjoy what you do!
I think it is awesome that you restore these classic gems.... but obviously it is a labor of love , but if doing it for yourself you will end up with a house full of stuff that no one wants, I restore old tube radios , sometimes at great costs, but they are worthless to everyone but me have about 100 now ....can't imagine a house full of CRT TV's.... lol
+bones007able make some videos about your vintage radios, its always interesting to us collectors
Can't wait! Great stuff, I really enjoy your videos. Keep 'em coming!
Great video - I like multi-part ones - I learn more.
Cheers, John
I like the multipart videos. It's not surprising the Hotpoint and GE are similar. GE merged with Hotpoint in 1918. Of course GE sold its home appliance business to Haier in China.
+Steven Smyth I never knew GE marketed TV's under the Hotpoint name. That was always home appliances, usually just stoves, ranges, refrigerators and dishwashers.
But TV's and possibly radios, pretty interesting.
If you put the Fluke between test point B and ground you can test the detector diode and the peaking coils.
I've never seen a horizontal phase detector diode like that before! I've only seen the rectangular units with the yellow sealant on top.
Shango I fixed the old Sherwood! It's a beast! Remember the one I asked you about? Anyway love your videos as usual... You make the best ones. Steven
oh hell there's a part 3, this is going to be a long repair im guessing
i watch all of the video. thanks for your work!
i must be one of the few people left on the planet with patience! i ALWAYS view latter parts to your videos! sometimes i cant wait for them! but what you are saying is true, i made a 2 part video and the first one has like 3 times the views of part 2, god forbid there be a part 3! im going to make a video of my old rca colorbar generator and other tools i have and im wondering if a video over 20 minutes is too long...
When you have the board pulled to replace the phase detector diodes, change that big red electrolytic just to the left of it, too. Looks like the original recapper missed it...
+Bob Weiss That is the audio FM balancing cap, I will check it for sure
I know it's silly of me to give you advice, but... Put a mirror in the front of the screen, real convenient to muck around with TV that way. And I find multi-part videos interesting, kinda like a sitcom for geeks - you wait for next part with impatience :D
Hotpoint made commercial deep fryers at one point.
And air conditioners
I like the way you say stuff that diod.
I had that same TV when I was a kid in the late 50's
Wow this is one sick grandma. :'D
lawn mower ideal ....great thanks for that video..cheers
Those detector diodes are usually germanium like an OA90.
great video shang
I was working on a 1940s Emerson portable radio which someone did a very good job of converting to AC, and it had a similar problem with low plate voltage; I traced it to a capacitor connected to the 117Z3 rectifier tube which was bad.
I was going to say to check that diode in the detector circuit between the 2nd video IF and the video amplifier.
Damn. I used to have one just like that, wish I'd kept it.
hey shang! love the channel. I'm a new sub so I haven't been through your back catalog yet. I was wondering if you fooled with reel to reel tape decks. I have one that works but it's lousy with old caps and resistors, dirty pots and I'd like to send it off to have it freshened up. If you're interested in the job, please let me know or if you know someone you trust that can do it, I'd love to get it restored back. Thanks for the awesome content sir!
I just thought of a new song "Ode to a dead diode" - maybe it should be like John Cage's "Silence"
Very interesting i missed the first part so watched that before this one now it is 3:30am lol.
MY GRANDFATHER USE TO USE A MIRROR IN FRONT OF THE SET TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON WHILE HE IS WORKING ON THE BACK OF THE SET ON MAKES THE JOB EASY
Some functional diodes show open on the diode checker of many meters. I have a cheap ass Uni-T in which the forward bias diode meter scale goes up to 2 volts and then cuts, and if for whatever reason the forward bias is higher than that it shows up open. LEDs show open even though the voltage put across them lights them up, for example. This probably changes depending of the meter.
+MisterTalkingMachine Absolutely agree, I kinda dont think thats is the case here though. I may make an effort to test that in pt3 once i get the coil in
+shango066 That one had to go for sure. Even if it still does something after all, it's well past beyond the point where it's still usable.
By the way, the horizontal lock selenium diode is very weird indeed. Thought it was a cap until you pointed out it isn't. My guess is that inside of it there's a stack of disks similar to those long ceramic flyback rectifiers from later sets.
+MisterTalkingMachine could be, I have no problem taking it apart so we can see. Im not totally sure its the problem but from what we know its highly likely
+shango066 If it's not, it well may be in the near future anyway. Cannot think of any way to possibly test it either, besides inserting it on another TV, which is not really worth the trouble in my opinion.
I found one of those on a plastic case with yellow sealant on a set that was butchered on the side of the road, and both diodes seem to work on it, but no telling if it would perform as it should on an actual working TV.
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I'm also nearby the airport and while watching this there is a helicopter overhead flying approaches.
Could it be that the little coil had bad contacts or corroded leads and therefore measured as open? By the way, why would two coils be put in series? It seems like overkill. Or does one coil dampen ringing or filter unwanted signals from the other coil?
I like these videos even if they are in multiple installments. There's always something interesting to glean in them. Thanks for sharing these videos with us :)
Coming up well
Is there a pt 4? I got really into this one.
I came across a Philco Tube radio in a baker like cabinet $98.00 the vender wants what do you think? A video came to most venders only do a enough to make the radio play and want so much money for the item
I live in the U.K. so don’t have the luxury of doing outdoors broadcasts. Do you have an indoor workshop?
Looks like a shorted video detector diode. A very common fault.
I would have thought that the USA had switched to DVB and DAB.
I wish. Europe and Australia got better standards I must say! I wish I could use them.
"clark -o twerkulating"? Dr. Suess is turning green with envy.
how did you become so smart on vintage electronics
Have you ever used a test crt, such as a 5AXP4 when working on this type of design? I have used my test crts on a couple of sets. This makes it much easier to get the set working. I am working on a GE very similar to this at present(This is why I am watching your videos). The board on the right is not that hard to re-cap, , just mark and disconnect about 5 of the wire-wrapped wires connecting the left and right boards, and it can be pull out enough to replace the caps on the board directly.. .
Why don’t u use a mirror to view the screen, would save a lot of walking back and forth
He is talking about ppl not watching all the parts lol, dude, all the titles to his multi part videos have completely different titles with no links to the next or previous parts. Trust me, I've tried to search his multi part videos..and it is NOT easy or intuitive to figure what is what.. sorry, I try
Ooooo “something’ hapnin’” …
cat wait! keep it comming! lol
hmm. Some of us look forward to the second parts, sir. Honestly I just sort by newest and watch.
Were you able to get back to this one? I'm curious to see how it turned out.
Using a second set isn't cheating. You had a similar set, why wouldn't you use it? It's a fast way to process of eliminate. Time is money. ;)
Always wondered if most people who have these sets repaired are doing it strictly for sentiment reasons. At least the old sets had style. Funny thing is today the sets are skinny and the people are fat where back in the day the sets were fat and the people were skinny.
Are you can't find the second part, due to youtube's terrible search engine.
Was hotpoint notsold by Sears
love it
I really like the new Sencore Toy! Is that the same one BandersenTV has?
+Dennis Hill Yes, I have the same model VG91. Very handy device :)
Time to do some coal mine exploration.
could lightning have gotten to the diode..???
Can you not use a speaker crossover coil shango?
+Synthematix To high inductance.
+Simon Spiers I got the coil, thats part 3
Get that video rolling shango, bloody brilliant stuff, also i want a bass valve amp because of you! lol.
Why the card with your channel name on it? It's not like I don't know who I'm watching.
its to keep people from reuploading the videos and claiming they made them
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forward bias is higher than that it shows
Where is your mirror?
Part 2 comment taggulation submission. 2024.
TV Ge vs Hotpoint
Hotpoint is GE, it's a brand they sell. Usually a low end appliance brand. I'm surprised to see this. I bet this was sold at a specific Hotpoint retailer. Local guy back in the day. With a persons name on the doors.
Are you can't find the second part, due to youtube's terrible search engine.