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There was one like that. But it can only fly slowly, because of the limited power. At some point this was considered as a cheaper alternative for satellites.
Essentially, my Leaf is solar powered. Since installing solar panels 3 years ago I have not had an electric bill. So since I charge at home virtually all the power used to charge the car comes from the sun. As far as integrating solar cells with the body of a car that is a great idea, however, in the event the body gets damaged in a collision the vehicle would need to go to the dealer because a regular body shop would not be able to repair it.
The car is also just too small. You won't be able to fit more than 1kw of solar given the area of the good roof and trunk, and in most countries that gives you 5% or less charge per day at a really high cost. You might as well add some cheap solar panels to your home, and pay for superchargers on road trips.
I mean depending on how it is applied it could be just like getting body work done where you have to replace a part of the chasis. Maybe after repairing the roof you have an almost tint like thing you can apply and then reconnect.
I asked my AAA agent what the insurance would be on an EV and he said "you don't want to know." They routinely total them out. That being said the Leaf seems like a lot of car for the money. With excellent battery left they are cheap. Ideal for urban use.
@@mrblurleighton what really high cost? Solar panels are cheap and have been refined over decades. they could offset the amount of heavy AND expensive batteries required. which you may be aware is a large part of the equation determining what kind of range a vehicle will have. (weigh less? go further.)
Legacy always tells you they'll have something, then nothing happens. Chinese are the opposite, by the time they show you something, it's already on discount sale.
If batteries are getting lighter and more energy dense AND the EV car itself is able to generate electricity from its paintjob, that is game, set and match for the internal combustion engined car right there - its all over for them. If all this stuff that is on the horizon comes to fruition, no wonder the stock prices of the traditional car players are tanking. Noone is going to be buying old tech cars that cost more to run and more to maintain with more parts to replace. we are approaching the equilibrium where the public's electric vehicle range anxiety is no more and that will change the game.
@@thethelostjs these are interesting times... We are alive to see the crossing over and transitioning period between 2 different paradigms. Just like our great grand parents were alive to see the transitioning from the horse and carriage to the motorcar so we are experiencing our own watershed. In fact, the generations alive today have lived to see many watershed moments this would be but another one
Chinese just copycat western Tech and knowhow..they cannot invent anythink.today.😂😂they last inventions was gunpowder and paper centuries ago..all that china propaganda dont change any facts..😂😂..check the stats .which Countrys got greateast Inventors and Patents..🫡
You know Viking if there's anyone on the planet who deserves success on UA-cam it's you. I truly admire your drive and work ethic. Happy holidays and all the best for the new year.
With constant pressure and innovation in the research of perovskite solar and tandem cells technology I think the best way to analyze this is by looking at the computer and its evolution from the size of a small house to an the size of a book and it took a short period of time. So I think the sky is the limit 🎉
@ yes but the difference between a silicon solar panel and perovskite solar cell is the energy that is converted with PSC is almost double that of traditional silicon solar panels. Also it’s like a hundredth of its size too
@Primtimreels indeed your point is well taken, i am only dusappoiny with it not being 100%ic incident light?, j take heart fri मांफोटोशनटेसुसहेट लीव्स मेड आउट ऑफ प्रोफामिनैंटली कार्बन कांड आगझर ऑर्गेनिक केमिकल्स utilised light and generate nadoh, emitting green light only? My contentions if use sn alloy iof सिलिकॉन्जडटेनियम, कार्बनdo that the final ksnelspoears green in sunlight se would have hit a jackpot of great effficirncy
I SAW SOMETHING A FEW YEARS AGO ABOUT COVERING THE ROOF OF THE HOUSE WITH A ROLL ON COATING THAT WOULD CHARGE GRIDD STORAGE BATTERY . JOHN B GOOD ENOUGH I THINK .
SONO Motors, a german company, had a solar panel car (similar to a VW Golf w/ a price of EUR 25,000) but had issues scaling/manufacturing. They sadly went bankrupt. Wonder what happened to their IP?
Excellent, I wanted to put a 570w solar panel on my roof rack of my electric van, and charge an eco flow delta pro portable battery then when parked I could charge my van while I work, it would give me around 20 miles of range on a sunny day over 8 hours , but I bought a Dabbsson battery home system instead of the delta pro as was better value overall, but my Nissan Townstar would not accept the charge from the Dabbsson dbs2300 even when I combined 2 units together to give max 4000watts output. So my pipe dream ended but yes I fully expect solar paint to be the future 👌👍
The new MB-Tex Solartronic surface is only available in the colour mauve and costs 12K Euros or 20K with a package that includes auto-dipping review mirrors and an outside temperature gauge.
@@FredFox-m9v shure..200 years ago nobody could imagine that humans could fly to the Moon....or diving in a submarine to the ground of the ocean..or that there where a cure against the plague....only genious Inventers from Europe made it all possibble....even the USA was built up by them..🤔
The solar panel at the china space station is some of the best in the world. Some day this tech will transfer to civilian use. What Sam says may come true some day. The battery will become smaller and lighter and cheaper.
If it happens then its over with repainting, have to buy new mercedes part in the right colour. Garage with clear roof like glass or maybe more sensibel with solar cells as roof. We still need the same size battery measured in kWh, they will just be lighter and smaller volumen.
I am sure this is real because flexible solar panels are around, but cost was not mentioned my guess is cost will put this out of reach for many years. I charged on a 13A 240V socket giving a range of around 60 miles on a cheap rate from 12.00 to 7.00. Cost around £1.70. So this technology needs to compete with that.
I love Aptera, and I'll buy one if they're produced soon for less than $40k, but the integrated solar panels are more of a gimmick than a game changing innovation. I value the tremendous efficiency, delivering 400 miles of range from a 44 kwh pack, far more than the integrated solar. I'd buy the car with no solar panels. As you say, solar panels on my house can charge my car, and they aren't wasted when my car is parked in the garage or anywhere in the shade. I routinely park my car in the shade if possible in the summer months; otherwise, it's like an oven when I get in, and exposure to the sun also affects my paint over time. With an Aptera, I'll be searching for unshaded parking spots oriented optimally toward the sun. I'd rather not worry about it. If I want solar panels on my car, I can buy a GoSun, and I may buy one for my Bolt when they appear. I won't get the full advantage of the panels while the car is moving, but I'll have the option of deploying the panels when I must park in the sun or the weather is cooler, and they'll actually shade my car from the sun.
"It'll be amazing ... either that or we'll be dead, one or the other" I literally laughed out loud. The Viking sneaks in dry humor so casually sometimes I miss it but I caught this one😅
The U.K. is currently having to import massive amounts of power from France because it’s winter here, dark most of the time, and it’s been cloudy for weeks so the nation’s solar panels are generating virtually zero.
Merc have probably bought out a small start up that was touting such a solution a couple of years ago - they had several small prototypes that could drive 20 miles per day from the solar panel "paint" baked into all the body panels. Next up why the fuck has the browser suddenly decided I have a US keyboard and swapping my @ and ".
@@vic321344 I cant actually remember the name of the company - were they a Dutch outfit ?? - I seem to recall the people I am thinking of were in Holland.
Sam, your 8 year old has a very curious mind. Like his Dad. Have you heard of a company called SolarWindow Technologies? They too have developed a thin film application for automotive. Always looking forward to your videos.
Best case a car could have 1000 watts of solar on it. At most it could gather 6 hours worth of light. That would give you about 20 miles of range. Better than nothing, but hardly a daily drive amount to use. Better solution would be to build frames over the roads and cover them with solar panels and put the power into cars with induction charging lanes.
@2:42 I come from *Montréal, Québec, Canada* and I can tell you right now that *it snows* there. Snow covers your car all day and your cells get near zero exposure to the sun. I might buy an *Aptera* but I will absolutely need to charge it in winter. Apart from that, I can hardly wait.
I'm sure they said 'up to' which includes nought. Maximum insolation is 250 W per square meter so 5 square meteres would give 1250 W and at 20% efficiency that gives you 250 Watts. Leave it out for 5 hours gives you 1.250 kWh my niro would do 6 miles on that. This ignores clouds and could you really make use of 5 sq meteres.?
Far as I know, while it might be possible to add them on, just keep in mind that this would be attaching a single or two panels to the cars worth of power at max. Even then that's only true if you can get them to the same power in take as more rigid versions of them. So really, you would be maybe looking at a single panel worth if power if you was the cover the whole car more or less, but hey, if its a cheap enough paint, then adding it into the car isnt that crazy to get a little more power everyday for it.
I hope Mercedes get this into production ... but as others have pointed out, we're talking about 10's of miles per day from solar, not 100's. Which is still impressive and desirable, but if you want to do 100's of miles of travel in a day, you either need lots of fast chargers / stops (or wireless charging as you go along etc.) or a big enough battery for desired range as we have today. I think 20% efficiency solar paint - if it works and is durable enough etc. etc. might be enough for most people, most of the time. If realised, that will be an amazing achievement! I would have thought though, most people who can afford new Mercedes are likely to put their prized possessions away in secure storage when unattended ... e.g. a garage? :P~ Aptera are hyper-efficient and get away with smaller batteries to complement/support the solar and still achieve good range. I would have thought the less efficient (more drag/weight/tyre-losses) cars with solar would be better targeted for lower-cost "city cars" / "commuter cars" at the masses. Small batteries and daily mileage likely falling into the solar output capability on a median day etc. This sort of thing will hopefully get better as motor efficiencies improve and battery efficiencies improve and photovoltaics improve and electrical voltage/current conversion efficiency etc. improves and energy management (with AI lol - buzz word AI) improves and material science improves. Maybe, one day, even in the UK, an EV might be able to average 25-miles /day or something like that over the course of a year (with wide variation) - encompassing over half of people's commuter needs even in Winter, and most people's needs in summer. That seems feasible to me based on technology trajectory/maturation and physics' constraints, if equipping vehicles with adequate solar becomes economically viable. With Mercedes though ... I'll believe it when I see it. I have to say ... 20% from paint seems a bit ... ambitious. Hopefully my fears/caution is misplaced. Would love to see it. Don't care who achieves it. Just want to see it made reality.
Even if this is mostly BS, itis afair innovation to add enough Solar panels to counteract the expected battery drain. I cant wait to see the results for electric planes.
Image an ev covered in this paint but, able to self drive in search of a clear view of sunshine for a max charge. Then being summoned by the owner to come pick her up.
One key thing the anti-EV brigade overlook is the ICE has very little technological development left. Whereas BEV technological advancements are at the early stage of the development lifecycle. Battery chemistry, electric motor efficiency, & charging capability are fairly technologically immature. Meaning there are lots of capability & efficiency improvements to come.
That's part of the take up problem, with more updates than an i-phone supposedly coming it is adding to the rapid depreciation, as people see their current models being instantly out of date and of little resale value. The ICE situation had stabilised decades ago apart from in car tech, and my current hatchback has only depreciated £2,150 in 4 years since new according to a dealer offer this week.
@@thethelostjs Yes they are all in it for the money - just like the people behind this solar paint. Unfortunately it needs to add 1000km a day, not 12000 a year, to be a real game changer, and that isn't feasible.
My 8 year old just said to me, "Daddy why do people make up things their children have said for social media, isn't it just inherently dishonest, and indicative of an inability to construct a compelling narrative for themselves"?
This may be viable in hot countries, but I live much closer to the Arctic Circle than I do to the Equator. If it costs pennies to produce, then it’s a no brainier. However, in hot countries, I doubt it would even produce enough electricity to power the air conditioning to deal with the constant solar heat gain. It’s interesting though.
The range can only be considered unlimited when the solar panels can produce at least as much energy as a moving car consumes. It’s unlikely with existing technologies.
I happily got a refund for my aptera reservation after they started reducing power [no reduction in price] and missing promises, while not updating anything as the years of waiting for financing has gone by. I say a prayer for aptera users on usa roads, whats the average weight of an American suv?
My car is solar powered from inside my garage protecting the car from the damaging sunlight. It's plugged into my Zappi charger and charges from my rooftop solar array.
20.000km per year = about 54km per day To drive 54km about 7kWh needed. Car surface area is about 5sq meters 1sq m can generate about 200Wh So car surface can generate 1kW power. 7 hours (perfect sunlight) needed to get 7kWh A bit too optimistic unless their solar car coating more efficient than modern roof solar panels (23%) I believe real numbers will be 3kWh - 5kWh per day (20 - 35) kilometers range per day.
@@alexmag5735 I worked it out once, using conservative (I.e. practical and likely) figures. I reckoned you could get about 10 miles per day on average. It may not be amazing, but that is like some giving you a free gallon of diesel a week. Who would say no?
Big claims. Give us the numbers. Like the surface of a car, the efficiency of solar paint, the usage of an average battery while driving, and expected improvements in these areas in the next 10 years
huh... sunshine is like 1300 W/m2 at peak (12:00 h). Even at some 30% efficiency (very high), you're looking at some 400-800 W depending on the car solar panel area. You charge 1 kWh at best in 1-2 hours. Make that 3-4 h off peak. On a good day thats like 4-5 kWh by standing on the sunshine, which is good for 20-30 km of range on a normal car. 10-15 km would be more realistic, meaning you'de need to live close to work for solar roofs to produce any tangible advantage.
The reality is that you don't have a large enough area on the surface of a car to do much in most parts of the World. Here in the UK, you wouldn't get enough to be worth the cost of it being fitted to a car.
The reality check is price, not lack of technology. Prices nearly always come down, once everyone wants it. This is a quote from lightyears website in 2022, a car being developed in Spain. “In optimal conditions, the solar panels can add up to 44 miles a day to the 388-mile range the car gets between charges, according to the company. Tests carried out by Lightyear suggest people with a daily commute of less than 22 miles could drive for two months in the Netherlands without needing to plug in, while those in sunnier climes such as Portugal or Spain could go as long as seven months.”
9:02 ‘your brain isn’t calibrated to the new information’ This is actually something I deal with talking to people. They can’t conceptualize that EV’s are at the stage of development where cars were in about 1920-30. Imagine an equal amount of development of the last 100 years only faster and here in ten. People can’t think this way. They don’t realize what they know if already three years old technology.
What's the point in an unlimited mileage if the road ahead is under 2 metres of supra-biblical levels of floodwater, rolled over by 5 mile mud and landslides and/or pockmarked with 30 metre x 10 metres deep sink holes craters?...
LOL. In other news, GM announces a cheap & efficient fusion reactor that fits in the glove box and powers a car for 3 million kilometers per cup of water.
To provide that kind of range, this paint would need to be significantly more efficient than current photovoltaic cells. People have put solar cells on car roofs & hoods, but it only adds a few miles a day under ideal conditions, like 3 or 4 miles. Toyota's got one for its Prime PHEV's for example. I guess painted on solar receptors would have a lot more surface area, but even so, seeing is believing. Hope it's real!
Amazing stuff. Ignore the 'never happen' brigade. There are a number of companies working on solar 'paints' and it will come soon enough. Probably not terribly helpful at these northern latitudes, but in sunny places, wow.
I'm in a very sunny country. My solar panels couldn't fit on a car, and still would take weeks to charge a car even if I added enough to make a platform on top of the car. Cars just aren't large enough.
Honestly solar panels on cars would be great here in north Africa we don't get cloudy weather for long the longest i think was a week and the sun always shining so honestly it would be very attractive here maybe if byd or mg (at least these are the chinese brands here that have brought electric cars ) would implement this u think there would be a better anount of ppl that would like to convert to electric
there will certainly be a day when an Ev without solar is seen as a waste of money...Imagine when 30% efficient solar matures, Ev's will need half the battery capacity and be 30/40% lighter.
Why has no one invented a simple bot that crawls under the car, finds the charging dock and recharges the car automatically, at a parking spot? This seems like a relatively easy solution that would make charging at parking spots more convenient and essentially entirely automated. You would just drive the car, except never have to recharge it manually. Seems much cheaper than solar recharging and most people do not need anything more than a partial top up charge.
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Now imagine that on a plane with its huge surface area and flying above the clouds where the sun always shines! Cool stuff
There was one like that. But it can only fly slowly, because of the limited power. At some point this was considered as a cheaper alternative for satellites.
Satelite have this, balloon too
Wonder how it would affect the slipstream efficiency.
Very well correlated, concurrent flying and charging?
Technology is currently available?
Essentially, my Leaf is solar powered. Since installing solar panels 3 years ago I have not had an electric bill. So since I charge at home virtually all the power used to charge the car comes from the sun. As far as integrating solar cells with the body of a car that is a great idea, however, in the event the body gets damaged in a collision the vehicle would need to go to the dealer because a regular body shop would not be able to repair it.
The car is also just too small. You won't be able to fit more than 1kw of solar given the area of the good roof and trunk, and in most countries that gives you 5% or less charge per day at a really high cost. You might as well add some cheap solar panels to your home, and pay for superchargers on road trips.
I mean depending on how it is applied it could be just like getting body work done where you have to replace a part of the chasis. Maybe after repairing the roof you have an almost tint like thing you can apply and then reconnect.
I asked my AAA agent what the insurance would be on an EV and he said "you don't want to know." They routinely total them out. That being said the Leaf seems like a lot of car for the money. With excellent battery left they are cheap. Ideal for urban use.
@@mrblurleighton what really high cost? Solar panels are cheap and have been refined over decades. they could offset the amount of heavy AND expensive batteries required. which you may be aware is a large part of the equation determining what kind of range a vehicle will have. (weigh less? go further.)
Are you a Uk resident reaping benefits of compliant weather equating to all year off grid ?
Legacy always tells you they'll have something, then nothing happens.
Chinese are the opposite, by the time they show you something, it's already on discount sale.
If batteries are getting lighter and more energy dense AND the EV car itself is able to generate electricity from its paintjob, that is game, set and match for the internal combustion engined car right there - its all over for them.
If all this stuff that is on the horizon comes to fruition, no wonder the stock prices of the traditional car players are tanking. Noone is going to be buying old tech cars that cost more to run and more to maintain with more parts to replace.
we are approaching the equilibrium where the public's electric vehicle range anxiety is no more and that will change the game.
@@scroopynooperz9051 thats what i'm seeing. every 1% battery increase is going to absolutely demolish the ICE industry
@@thethelostjs these are interesting times... We are alive to see the crossing over and transitioning period between 2 different paradigms.
Just like our great grand parents were alive to see the transitioning from the horse and carriage to the motorcar so we are experiencing our own watershed.
In fact, the generations alive today have lived to see many watershed moments this would be but another one
Chinese just copycat western Tech and knowhow..they cannot invent anythink.today.😂😂they last inventions was gunpowder and paper centuries ago..all that china propaganda dont change any facts..😂😂..check the stats .which Countrys got greateast Inventors and Patents..🫡
if that was true legacy would have gone bankrupt 100 years ago.
You know Viking if there's anyone on the planet who deserves success on UA-cam it's you. I truly admire your drive and work ethic. Happy holidays and all the best for the new year.
3:21 Those numbers don't add up. 20,000 km per year is not 290 km per day. It's around 54 km per day.
It’s required forward thinking to embrace the future, this one isn’t that far
For those wondering 20,000 km = 12,500 miles Give this a thumbs up so others can see it.
With constant pressure and innovation in the research of perovskite solar and tandem cells technology I think the best way to analyze this is by looking at the computer and its evolution from the size of a small house to an the size of a book and it took a short period of time. So I think the sky is the limit 🎉
Why obsession with petovskites?, after all they generate solar power more or less?
@ yes but the difference between a silicon solar panel and perovskite solar cell is the energy that is converted with PSC is almost double that of traditional silicon solar panels. Also it’s like a hundredth of its size too
@Primtimreels indeed your point is well taken, i am only dusappoiny with it not being 100%ic incident light?, j take heart fri मांफोटोशनटेसुसहेट लीव्स मेड आउट ऑफ प्रोफामिनैंटली कार्बन कांड आगझर ऑर्गेनिक केमिकल्स utilised light and generate nadoh, emitting green light only?
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@Primtimreels ever seen a cactus or fig keaf थे एक्जीक्यूट फोटिसिंथीडस, एचईसी इंक्लूडर्स ओन ट्र
@Primtimreels still less than 100%?
Stage coach drivers said “the train will never work” 😂
MB is always at the forefront of technology in cars! That in the end trickles down to everyone else!
I SAW SOMETHING A FEW YEARS AGO ABOUT COVERING THE ROOF OF THE HOUSE WITH A ROLL ON COATING THAT WOULD CHARGE GRIDD STORAGE BATTERY . JOHN B GOOD ENOUGH I THINK .
SONO Motors, a german company, had a solar panel car (similar to a VW Golf w/ a price of EUR 25,000) but had issues scaling/manufacturing. They sadly went bankrupt. Wonder what happened to their IP?
Excellent, I wanted to put a 570w solar panel on my roof rack of my electric van, and charge an eco flow delta pro portable battery then when parked I could charge my van while I work, it would give me around 20 miles of range on a sunny day over 8 hours , but I bought a Dabbsson battery home system instead of the delta pro as was better value overall, but my Nissan Townstar would not accept the charge from the Dabbsson dbs2300 even when I combined 2 units together to give max 4000watts output. So my pipe dream ended but yes I fully expect solar paint to be the future 👌👍
The new MB-Tex Solartronic surface is only available in the colour mauve and costs 12K Euros or 20K with a package that includes auto-dipping review mirrors and an outside temperature gauge.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@markjonz My parents Renault Scenic had an outside temperature gauge in 1999, that felt like the future!
I'm not a liberal but I think EVs are the future. Hopefully I will own one before too long.
i struggle to imagine how you identify a positive and negative terminal in a coat of paint
Anodes and, cathode my friend!
The paint is like the Emperor's new clothes in the imagination of inventors.
@@FredFox-m9v shure..200 years ago nobody could imagine that humans could fly to the Moon....or diving in a submarine to the ground of the ocean..or that there where a cure against the plague....only genious Inventers from Europe made it all possibble....even the USA was built up by them..🤔
As a UK resident, I'd be happy with 10,000KM a year from splar.
The solar panel at the china space station is some of the best in the world. Some day this tech will transfer to civilian use. What Sam says may come true some day. The battery will become smaller and lighter and cheaper.
There has been prototype solar wrap for cars since 2018; I hope it comes to fruition.
If it happens then its over with repainting, have to buy new mercedes part in the right colour. Garage with clear roof like glass or maybe more sensibel with solar cells as roof.
We still need the same size battery measured in kWh, they will just be lighter and smaller volumen.
I am sure this is real because flexible solar panels are around, but cost was not mentioned my guess is cost will put this out of reach for many years.
I charged on a 13A 240V socket giving a range of around 60 miles on a cheap rate from 12.00 to 7.00. Cost around £1.70.
So this technology needs to compete with that.
I love Aptera, and I'll buy one if they're produced soon for less than $40k, but the integrated solar panels are more of a gimmick than a game changing innovation. I value the tremendous efficiency, delivering 400 miles of range from a 44 kwh pack, far more than the integrated solar. I'd buy the car with no solar panels.
As you say, solar panels on my house can charge my car, and they aren't wasted when my car is parked in the garage or anywhere in the shade. I routinely park my car in the shade if possible in the summer months; otherwise, it's like an oven when I get in, and exposure to the sun also affects my paint over time. With an Aptera, I'll be searching for unshaded parking spots oriented optimally toward the sun. I'd rather not worry about it.
If I want solar panels on my car, I can buy a GoSun, and I may buy one for my Bolt when they appear. I won't get the full advantage of the panels while the car is moving, but I'll have the option of deploying the panels when I must park in the sun or the weather is cooler, and they'll actually shade my car from the sun.
"It'll be amazing ... either that or we'll be dead, one or the other" I literally laughed out loud. The Viking sneaks in dry humor so casually sometimes I miss it but I caught this one😅
I have heard about solar paint for years, not just relating to vehicles. I have yet to see it - but hope is arrives one day.
evs are being developed at a good rate. in about 15-20 years it will be wise to buy an ev
One problem.. dirt.. drive it down the motorway once you’d need to clean it due to spray.. would drop the efficiency 50% after one trip
Someone's got to complain about something all the time
The U.K. is currently having to import massive amounts of power from France because it’s winter here, dark most of the time, and it’s been cloudy for weeks so the nation’s solar panels are generating virtually zero.
There are always going to be e problems in life.😉But don’t you just love the new EV technology that is being developed ?
Stop being a negative Nellie please.
@@fredbloggs5902 but at least it’s still windy in the UK.Every little helps.👍
What is being stated in many words is concurrent driving and charging that is wireless?
Is it April 1st?
Merc have probably bought out a small start up that was touting such a solution a couple of years ago - they had several small prototypes that could drive 20 miles per day from the solar panel "paint" baked into all the body panels.
Next up why the fuck has the browser suddenly decided I have a US keyboard and swapping my @ and ".
No. Dec 5. December Dumbbell's Day / DDD.
@@vic321344 I cant actually remember the name of the company - were they a Dutch outfit ?? - I seem to recall the people I am thinking of were in Holland.
I wonder what the lifespan and durability will be. If it gets dinged/damaged how will that affect it? How hard is it to repair?
Sam, your 8 year old has a very curious mind. Like his Dad. Have you heard of a company called SolarWindow Technologies? They too have developed a thin film application for automotive. Always looking forward to your videos.
If it’s true it would make sense although the uk is a lot further north so will help but I wonder by how much? Good news though !
When I was a kid they saw me under the pickup , I told them I was lookin to see what made it go .
How does the paint body transmit the solar energy to the battery ?
When Will this paint be commercially availible and why is paint better than just covering the body with thin film solar panels.
MERC stopped yesterday EV cars and went back to piston cars 😮😮😮😮😮
I'm not planning on solar powered car anytime in the next 30 years. I just saw an article on a Kia Tasman electric pickup. Any info on that.
Best case a car could have 1000 watts of solar on it. At most it could gather 6 hours worth of light. That would give you about 20 miles of range.
Better than nothing, but hardly a daily drive amount to use.
Better solution would be to build frames over the roads and cover them with solar panels and put the power into cars with induction charging lanes.
Will there be a silver component?
Imagine painting house, appliances, phone, your body and everything with solar paint to make everything a battery.
Only concept cars🎉🎉🎉🎉
@2:42 I come from *Montréal, Québec, Canada* and I can tell you right now that *it snows* there. Snow covers your car all day and your cells get near zero exposure to the sun.
I might buy an *Aptera* but I will absolutely need to charge it in winter. Apart from that, I can hardly wait.
But was the load for AC considered to reduce the overall range? No mention of this.
Is it available in hot pink ?
Oh shit, someone bipassed the laws of physics :D
What about contactless charging
I'm sure they said 'up to' which includes nought. Maximum insolation is 250 W per square meter so 5 square meteres would give 1250 W and at 20% efficiency that gives you 250 Watts. Leave it out for 5 hours gives you 1.250 kWh my niro would do 6 miles on that. This ignores clouds and could you really make use of 5 sq meteres.?
Far as I know, while it might be possible to add them on, just keep in mind that this would be attaching a single or two panels to the cars worth of power at max. Even then that's only true if you can get them to the same power in take as more rigid versions of them. So really, you would be maybe looking at a single panel worth if power if you was the cover the whole car more or less, but hey, if its a cheap enough paint, then adding it into the car isnt that crazy to get a little more power everyday for it.
I hope Mercedes get this into production ... but as others have pointed out, we're talking about 10's of miles per day from solar, not 100's. Which is still impressive and desirable, but if you want to do 100's of miles of travel in a day, you either need lots of fast chargers / stops (or wireless charging as you go along etc.) or a big enough battery for desired range as we have today.
I think 20% efficiency solar paint - if it works and is durable enough etc. etc. might be enough for most people, most of the time. If realised, that will be an amazing achievement!
I would have thought though, most people who can afford new Mercedes are likely to put their prized possessions away in secure storage when unattended ... e.g. a garage? :P~
Aptera are hyper-efficient and get away with smaller batteries to complement/support the solar and still achieve good range.
I would have thought the less efficient (more drag/weight/tyre-losses) cars with solar would be better targeted for lower-cost "city cars" / "commuter cars" at the masses. Small batteries and daily mileage likely falling into the solar output capability on a median day etc.
This sort of thing will hopefully get better as motor efficiencies improve and battery efficiencies improve and photovoltaics improve and electrical voltage/current conversion efficiency etc. improves and energy management (with AI lol - buzz word AI) improves and material science improves.
Maybe, one day, even in the UK, an EV might be able to average 25-miles /day or something like that over the course of a year (with wide variation) - encompassing over half of people's commuter needs even in Winter, and most people's needs in summer. That seems feasible to me based on technology trajectory/maturation and physics' constraints, if equipping vehicles with adequate solar becomes economically viable.
With Mercedes though ... I'll believe it when I see it. I have to say ... 20% from paint seems a bit ... ambitious. Hopefully my fears/caution is misplaced. Would love to see it. Don't care who achieves it. Just want to see it made reality.
Even if this is mostly BS, itis afair innovation to add enough Solar panels to counteract the expected battery drain. I cant wait to see the results for electric planes.
Image an ev covered in this paint but, able to self drive in search of a clear view of sunshine for a max charge. Then being summoned by the owner to come pick her up.
What would be interesting is what solar paint actually is and how do they harvest the electricity out of it?
Sounds like you just binned the laws of physics🤣
One key thing the anti-EV brigade overlook is the ICE has very little technological development left. Whereas BEV technological advancements are at the early stage of the development lifecycle. Battery chemistry, electric motor efficiency, & charging capability are fairly technologically immature. Meaning there are lots of capability & efficiency improvements to come.
That's part of the take up problem, with more updates than an i-phone supposedly coming it is adding to the rapid depreciation, as people see their current models being instantly out of date and of little resale value. The ICE situation had stabilised decades ago apart from in car tech, and my current hatchback has only depreciated £2,150 in 4 years since new according to a dealer offer this week.
@@stephenwood9687 Thank goodness that at least dealers are trustworthy!
@@thethelostjs Yes they are all in it for the money - just like the people behind this solar paint. Unfortunately it needs to add 1000km a day, not 12000 a year, to be a real game changer, and that isn't feasible.
I would expect this to be first in vans
My 8 year old just said to me, "Daddy why do people make up things their children have said for social media, isn't it just inherently dishonest, and indicative of an inability to construct a compelling narrative for themselves"?
What if you park in a garage?
This may be viable in hot countries, but I live much closer to the Arctic Circle than I do to the Equator. If it costs pennies to produce, then it’s a no brainier. However, in hot countries, I doubt it would even produce enough electricity to power the air conditioning to deal with the constant solar heat gain. It’s interesting though.
Paint the roof of the garage and house powering everything.
The range can only be considered unlimited when the solar panels can produce at least as much energy as a moving car consumes. It’s unlikely with existing technologies.
How would you like those Fees in your Country?
Listening to this, I think I might invest in a car wash
Heheeee. Awesome title :)
I'm working on solar bed sheets.
@@ConstanceCox Just make sure you don’t wet them. Things could turn nasty very quickly. 😮
remeber these panels will be replacing the paint weight so it can only be a tad heavier.
I happily got a refund for my aptera reservation after they started reducing power [no reduction in price] and missing promises, while not updating anything as the years of waiting for financing has gone by.
I say a prayer for aptera users on usa roads, whats the average weight of an American suv?
Is this like their green diesel engines?
Where an I buy a tin of that stuff ?
My car is solar powered from inside my garage protecting the car from the damaging sunlight. It's plugged into my Zappi charger and charges from my rooftop solar array.
20.000km per year = about 54km per day
To drive 54km about 7kWh needed.
Car surface area is about 5sq meters
1sq m can generate about 200Wh
So car surface can generate 1kW power.
7 hours (perfect sunlight) needed to get 7kWh
A bit too optimistic unless their solar car coating more efficient than modern roof solar panels (23%)
I believe real numbers will be 3kWh - 5kWh per day (20 - 35) kilometers range per day.
And the council allows you to cut trees down around your house!😢
@@alexmag5735 I worked it out once, using conservative (I.e. practical and likely) figures. I reckoned you could get about 10 miles per day on average.
It may not be amazing, but that is like some giving you a free gallon of diesel a week. Who would say no?
@@javelinXH992 Depends on how much you pay for this free gallon. Paint, plastics inside...
BS a car does not have enough surface area even if the panel is 100% efficient and at best only 60% of the car panels can face the sun at one time.
It charges the battery while it is parked. The average usage of a car is 40 miles a day. This paint is claims to provide more than that.
So not unlimited but also some would never have to plug in
And germans like to park their car in a garage to keep them out of the rain...
@@SigFigNewton I agree for a city car even at 100% its 4 to 5 kwh which is 10% of energy use on highway
Big claims. Give us the numbers. Like the surface of a car, the efficiency of solar paint, the usage of an average battery while driving, and expected improvements in these areas in the next 10 years
The need for larger batteries would not be necessary as with solar it would be the same basic operation as current hybrids.
Think about how this kind o technology could be used in homes/architechture . Painting a house to generate its own power, for example.
Good
There has just been a startup in Germany which went bankrupt who have a prototype ready doing this
huh... sunshine is like 1300 W/m2 at peak (12:00 h). Even at some 30% efficiency (very high), you're looking at some 400-800 W depending on the car solar panel area. You charge 1 kWh at best in 1-2 hours. Make that 3-4 h off peak. On a good day thats like 4-5 kWh by standing on the sunshine, which is good for 20-30 km of range on a normal car. 10-15 km would be more realistic, meaning you'de need to live close to work for solar roofs to produce any tangible advantage.
The reality is that you don't have a large enough area on the surface of a car to do much in most parts of the World. Here in the UK, you wouldn't get enough to be worth the cost of it being fitted to a car.
The reality check is price, not lack of technology. Prices nearly always come down, once everyone wants it. This is a quote from lightyears website in 2022, a car being developed in Spain.
“In optimal conditions, the solar panels can add up to 44 miles a day to the 388-mile range the car gets between charges, according to the company. Tests carried out by Lightyear suggest people with a daily commute of less than 22 miles could drive for two months in the Netherlands without needing to plug in, while those in sunnier climes such as Portugal or Spain could go as long as seven months.”
9:02 ‘your brain isn’t calibrated to the new information’
This is actually something I deal with talking to people. They can’t conceptualize that EV’s are at the stage of development where cars were in about 1920-30. Imagine an equal amount of development of the last 100 years only faster and here in ten. People can’t think this way. They don’t realize what they know if already three years old technology.
Cool!
What's the point in an unlimited mileage if the road ahead is under 2 metres of supra-biblical levels of floodwater, rolled over by 5 mile mud and landslides and/or pockmarked with 30 metre x 10 metres deep sink holes craters?...
LOL.
In other news, GM announces a cheap & efficient fusion reactor that fits in the glove box and powers a car for 3 million kilometers per cup of water.
Forget it, physically impossible.
Sounds a bit too good to be true.
That’s because it is.
Yea this is probably DECADES out.
Will you have vehicle to grid where you live Viking?
You’d expect Chinese EV to come up with this technology before anyone else. They’re the leader in solar panels and batteries
They are leading with Australian technology for solar.😊
People are acting like he didn’t say it was a video about the future. Also remember he said it’s not actually just paint.
What happens if it gets scratched or a crash happens and your stuck in a vehicle shorting out around you we will need to start wearing faraday cages
To provide that kind of range, this paint would need to be significantly more efficient than current photovoltaic cells. People have put solar cells on car roofs & hoods, but it only adds a few miles a day under ideal conditions, like 3 or 4 miles. Toyota's got one for its Prime PHEV's for example. I guess painted on solar receptors would have a lot more surface area, but even so, seeing is believing. Hope it's real!
Unlimited if you drive 1 mph
You really drink the clickbait Kool Aid
You are incredible
Will they have unicorn horns on the bonnets ?
Is it a game changer?
@@stephenparker5272 Always.
The real game changer will be when it isn’t a game changer. I think?
Amazing stuff. Ignore the 'never happen' brigade. There are a number of companies working on solar 'paints' and it will come soon enough. Probably not terribly helpful at these northern latitudes, but in sunny places, wow.
I'm in a very sunny country. My solar panels couldn't fit on a car, and still would take weeks to charge a car even if I added enough to make a platform on top of the car. Cars just aren't large enough.
It uses a lot of silver in its production and there is not enough silver left
Honestly solar panels on cars would be great here in north Africa we don't get cloudy weather for long the longest i think was a week and the sun always shining so honestly it would be very attractive here maybe if byd or mg (at least these are the chinese brands here that have brought electric cars ) would implement this u think there would be a better anount of ppl that would like to convert to electric
there will certainly be a day when an Ev without solar is seen as a waste of money...Imagine when 30% efficient solar matures, Ev's will need half the battery capacity and be 30/40% lighter.
Why has no one invented a simple bot that crawls under the car, finds the charging dock and recharges the car automatically, at a parking spot? This seems like a relatively easy solution that would make charging at parking spots more convenient and essentially entirely automated. You would just drive the car, except never have to recharge it manually. Seems much cheaper than solar recharging and most people do not need anything more than a partial top up charge.
Electric Viking I have a question.
Why do you think Oil demand in China has been increasing?
Yes. With the price tag only top 2 % can afford. 😂
Yea right