Lee has two types of Factory Crimp Dies, one thaqt is carbide style and one that is collet styled. The Carbide sizer part straightens the cases back up when the crimp part bulges the cases from the downward force of the die upon the case neck. The Collect Style crimp die does not apply downward pressure but rather inward pressure of which does not buckle the case creating a bulge that would then need ironing out. If this is true the carbide part of the die fixes what the downward pressure crimp part messes up, whereby I call it a gimmick of sorts because it does not really solve the problem, but rather patches it over. All that work hardening the brass is not good either. Better to just not cause an issue as apposed to patching it back up I would think. Again The Lee Collect Style crimp die never buckles the case whereby never needing to fix its own fuct-ups, as the downward forcing Lee Carbide Factory Style crimp dies do. Ergo with the Collect Style crimp dies there is never a need for the carbide ring, period. So if you see my point being Lee has the Collet Style crimp dies why would they sell a Carbide crimp die that messes up the brass only to turn around and solve its own issues, other than to act as if it is the crimp die of crimp dies of sort that everyone should have(?). That is why I call it a gimmick crimp die. Makes no sense when the Collet Style crimp die exist, right? Be sure and watch Lee's own videos on their Factory Carbide Style crimp dies: 1) ua-cam.com/video/0rjlUH25DyM/v-deo.html And their Factory Collet Style crimp dies (of which they have both /roll and a taper types): 2) ua-cam.com/video/vo7p4k36swI/v-deo.html
Like most things these days do not believe every thing a manufacturer tells you until you yourself have verified the information is correct. Always better to be safe than sorry when it comes to reloading or anything else, as I have found that manufacturers are getting away with a lot of B.S. now more than ever.
I’m here because I think I did this to my first 30 9mm ever made.. However it wouldn’t chamber into my pistol unless I went down further. Any comments on why and what I did wrong would be appreciated! Thanks for the video
@@plow-boyengineering7053 I didn’t cast my own bullets. I used berry’s plated round nose. So I was within the correct OAL and worked in chamber checker but wouldn’t chamber in firearms so I used factory crimp die all the way down. Since then I watched other videos and believe I have it down now. Going to pull one of the first 30 I made and see if I smushed the bullet with to much crimp.
just kindling, 27 years of aviation and aerospace with AF and NASA makes me make bad comments because I used to have to figure apogee for rocket and the best telemetry solutions to get all the data with the command uplink and tracking antennas.
Thank you, Sir. Very informative.
Im loading 45acp right now I ordered the lee factory crimp die...works great..
Lee has two types of Factory Crimp Dies, one thaqt is carbide style and one that is collet styled. The Carbide sizer part straightens the cases back up when the crimp part bulges the cases from the downward force of the die upon the case neck. The Collect Style crimp die does not apply downward pressure but rather inward pressure of which does not buckle the case creating a bulge that would then need ironing out. If this is true the carbide part of the die fixes what the downward pressure crimp part messes up, whereby I call it a gimmick of sorts because it does not really solve the problem, but rather patches it over. All that work hardening the brass is not good either. Better to just not cause an issue as apposed to patching it back up I would think.
Again The Lee Collect Style crimp die never buckles the case whereby never needing to fix its own fuct-ups, as the downward forcing Lee Carbide Factory Style crimp dies do. Ergo with the Collect Style crimp dies there is never a need for the carbide ring, period. So if you see my point being Lee has the Collet Style crimp dies why would they sell a Carbide crimp die that messes up the brass only to turn around and solve its own issues, other than to act as if it is the crimp die of crimp dies of sort that everyone should have(?). That is why I call it a gimmick crimp die. Makes no sense when the Collet Style crimp die exist, right?
Be sure and watch Lee's own videos on their Factory Carbide Style crimp dies:
1) ua-cam.com/video/0rjlUH25DyM/v-deo.html
And their Factory Collet Style crimp dies (of which they have both /roll and a taper types):
2) ua-cam.com/video/vo7p4k36swI/v-deo.html
That is a VERY good point.
Like most things these days do not believe every thing a manufacturer tells you until you yourself have verified the information is correct. Always better to be safe than sorry when it comes to reloading or anything else, as I have found that manufacturers are getting away with a lot of B.S. now more than ever.
Great video and great information
A lot of other die manufacturers don't include the crimp die in their sets. Do you think it is necessary????
That is really up to what your end goals are. It is definitely personal preference.
Great video brother
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I’m here because I think I did this to my first 30 9mm ever made.. However it wouldn’t chamber into my pistol unless I went down further. Any comments on why and what I did wrong would be appreciated! Thanks for the video
Did you run the bullets through a sizing die after they were casted and cooled?
@@plow-boyengineering7053 I didn’t cast my own bullets. I used berry’s plated round nose. So I was within the correct OAL and worked in chamber checker but wouldn’t chamber in firearms so I used factory crimp die all the way down. Since then I watched other videos and believe I have it down now. Going to pull one of the first 30 I made and see if I smushed the bullet with to much crimp.
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just kindling, 27 years of aviation and aerospace with AF and NASA makes me make bad comments because I used to have to figure apogee for rocket and the best telemetry solutions to get all the data with the command uplink and tracking antennas.
Thanks